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The US is preparing a new generation of laser weapons

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The US is preparing a new generation of laser weapons

In the near future, it may be created a new laser weapon. This conclusion was made by experts of the American Lexington Institute.

The Armed Forces research and development system over the years 30 has been trying to create a direct energy weapon DEW (Direct Energy Weapon). As part of the Strategic Defense Initiative SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) it was planned to create a wide range of such weapons - from a ground-based laser operating on the principle of uncoupled electrons to cosmic laser weapons with X-rays, the source of energy for which would be a nuclear reaction. It is for this reason that the program was given the slang name "Star Wars" (Star Wars).

Despite the fact that the weapon described above was never created, the scientific community continued its development. The Ground Forces (SV) of the USA and the Israel Defense Forces began the joint development of a tactical high-energy laser THEL (Tactical High Energy Laser) at the end of the 1990-s. By the beginning of the 2000's. an experimental version of the THEL shot down the 33 multi-launch rocket launcher (MLRS) of the BM-13 and other types of rockets. During the tests there were cases of simultaneous destruction of several ammunition. At the same time, the US Air Force was working on the creation of an aircraft-based laser. In 2010, it was demonstrated that such a system could shoot down ballistic missiles in flight.

However, both programs, in the end, were minimized. The reason for this was the imperfection of a number of technologies, both THEL and aircraft-based lasers, the structure of both lasers based on the use of a large number of toxic chemicals necessary to ensure the performance of weapons, the high cost of developing an operating system. However, during the development of the THEL and the airborne laser, it was discovered that they can detect and destroy fast-moving targets with a short flight time.

It is likely that in the near future a new generation of directional energy transfer weapons will be developed.

In 2013, the US SV tested a mobile high-energy laser demonstrator HEL MD (High Energy Laser Mobile Demonstrator) at the White Sands missile (New Mexico). The demonstrator represented a low-power laser (10-15 kW) mounted on a car chassis. However, it was determined that he could shoot down several types of missiles, mortar shells and artillery shells in the middle section of the flight path. HEL MD also showed that it can fight with optoelectronic sensors mounted on unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV).

The United States Navy (Navy) is currently working on a Maritime Laser Demonstrator maritime demonstrator (MLD). In April, 2011 was conducted marine tests of this system. In their course, the MLD successfully completed the tasks assigned to sea-based laser weapons. He discovered the target and illuminated it with a laser beam. Power supply technologies and energy consumption control, temperature control, integration with various warship systems were developed. MLD was able to track and destroy small surface targets. Also, the demonstrator showed the possibility of passive tracking and identification of relatively small objects like a UAV or a small-sized boat.

Based on the achievements of the demonstrations described above, scientists continue to develop more powerful prototypes. Next year, the US Navy is expected to deploy a more efficient prototype of a sea-based laser on board the Pouns ship (USS Ponce) in the Persian Gulf. The laser will be fully integrated with the energy and combat systems of the ship just as if it were conventional weapons. SV plans to deploy more powerful prototypes until a power level acceptable to the combat system is reached.

The U.S. and Navy programs for creating laser weapons show not only the level of development of the technologies necessary for the development of ONPE, but also the level of development management skills of such high-tech and transformation-capable programs. SV and Navy apply solid-state lasers, which allowed to eliminate the previously existing problems associated with chemical lasers. Progress in the development of technologies for the production of laser weapons components, along with the development of energy generation and control systems, beam control, vibration damping, target tracking, reduce the cost, increase the reliability and efficiency of such systems.

In contrast to the previous programs, tens of millions of dollars have been spent on new developments, in particular, because they are based on the work already done by the US Air Force and other types of troops. Moreover, the new programs provide for the gradual development of a sample, while earlier from the very beginning the task was to create a ready-to-use ONPE.

DPRP has a serious potential that can transform military equipment. For example, a laser equipped with an appropriate power plant, has a store with a virtually unlimited volume. At the same time the cost of one shot is very low. This will nullify the effectiveness of attempts by opponents of the United States to suddenly use inexpensive offensive weapons or force the US military to face the problem of excessive costs when deploying weapons. In addition, the use of lasers will allow the US military to dominate the battlefield in the field of optoelectronic equipment.

The laser system can be converted into a sensor, a weapon or even a non-lethal weapon (OND) when operating in low power mode. Likely adversaries who develop intelligence equipment with advanced sensors should seriously take the threat of laser weapons into account.

Currently, programs for creating lasers can lead to certain results, since their cost is relatively small, they are effectively managed, based on proven technologies, and their goal is to create weapons with a wide range of applications. In the case of the placement of DPRP on land, at sea and, possibly, in the air, the US armed forces will receive a serious superiority in the future over potential adversaries, ITAR-TASS reports.
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  1. avant-garde
    avant-garde 24 December 2013 11: 48
    +11
    Does it seem to me alone or has this science fiction already flickered on VO?
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 24 December 2013 11: 49
      -1
      No, it was no! Someone hiccups!
    2. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 24 December 2013 12: 25
      +5
      There is one on one of the Black Sea Fleet ships from the end of 80's. One shot costs like two cast-iron bridges. Passed state testing for weapons is not accepted. There are cheaper methods. Although it shoots beautifully))))
    3. My address
      My address 24 December 2013 13: 12
      +5
      You shouldn’t be so, Alexander. The article was, but this is not fiction.

      I have only heard about lasers for a long time, or read translations, but this is much more serious than "guided bullets" and "bullets with a screw thread". For the first time I saw a laser in the 60s, when institute graduate students, showing off, tried to light a cigarette from it. Almost half a century has passed. For example, now lasers are used in the so-called 3D printing of the simplest metal objects. And what will happen in ten years?
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 24 December 2013 14: 51
        +4
        The laser was first seen in the 60s when institute graduate students, trying to show off, tried to light from it
        ...... we once did not show off just lighting just from ordinary magnifying glass wink
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 24 December 2013 14: 57
        0
        There will be nothing, nothing at all. Or the development of high-density energy sources will produce results and a world war will begin. But the fact that the Americans will come up with such a source is impossible to believe. Gays and democratic journalists - yes. Good engineers - yes so far. Breakthrough science - no longer.
        The theme of modern batteries and current energy sources worked in the USSR in the seventies. The conclusion is beautiful but useless.
        1. Internet fighter
          Internet fighter 24 December 2013 15: 24
          0
          Well, in the USSR they were engaged in counteraction rather than defeat of ballistic blocks.
      3. Ivan.
        Ivan. 24 December 2013 16: 08
        +1
        If I am not mistaken, they have long been used in industry as a cutting tool. It’s funny to me personally when they talk about the high cost of a shot, because a combat lazar should shoot with pulses, that is, the flux density is important and not the amount of energy or power consumption of the installation because it is just light. Long time ago I heard this version, using a powerful laser beam create a plasma (and these are charged particles) in this beam you can transport energy - why not a weapon? The fact that it is not yet able to create a lazar that meets the needs well, it will greatly complicate life, but it is possible, you just have to integrate other high technology.
        1. oops
          oops 25 December 2013 03: 51
          0
          What is needed is the "energy volume" and not the "flux density". Modern lasers with ultra-short pulses give a flux density in terawatts (thousands of thousands of megawatts!) And they won't be able to pierce a penny!
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 25 December 2013 10: 57
            -1
            Quote: Oops
            Modern lasers with ultra-short pulses give a flux density in terawatts (thousands of thousands of megawatts!) And they won’t be able to break a penny!

            They wrote that the best optics have a transparency of about 95%, I have no information but I heard about such a figure, so up to 5% of these terawatts remain in the lens! Is it too much for her? Have a source of information to share? + Can you tell me at least roughly how much energy in watts is needed to melt this coin? smile
    4. Christian
      Christian 24 December 2013 15: 08
      0
      We will, as always, go our own way! Cheaper, but more efficient! Something like this-
    5. Airman
      Airman 24 December 2013 19: 24
      0
      Quote: avant-garde
      Does it seem to me alone or has this science fiction already flickered on VO?

      An article from the category just to write something, an agreement of intent.
      1. maxvet
        maxvet 24 December 2013 20: 56
        0
        heard something about "explosive lasers", who in the subject are real things or a duck? there was even something about an air defense system with this thing
    6. saber1357
      saber1357 25 December 2013 01: 46
      -1
      Well, yes, "Star Wars" (the film, of course), Luke Skywalker, imperial probe droids, the terrifying Death Star (this is where Vader's march ta-ta-ta-tum-tum-tum-tum-tum-tum plays). The main thing is that some freehand drawing was stuck at the beginning of the article and this should impress, or what? If only they could bring the test results in a bravura American manner, such as "with the help of the installation, they successfully cut 30 missile corps, fixed on the stand, from a distance of 10 m."
    7. I do not care
      I do not care 25 December 2013 12: 33
      -1
      Blah, blah blah 2
      how to build, write, and until then, such publications in the furnace!
  2. datur
    datur 24 December 2013 11: 48
    +2
    [quote = avant-garde] Does it seem to me alone or has this science fiction already flickered on VO? it was definitely already !!! yes
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 24 December 2013 11: 52
    +1
    The energy consumption of the laser is enormous, and it is still far from combat use (until the corresponding compact source of energy appears).
    So there are articles on lasers from the discharge of passions.
  4. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 24 December 2013 11: 53
    +5
    How much can you procrastinate this topic? The third or fourth article on this topic in a month - and one is similar to the other as twins, only the title changes. negative
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 24 December 2013 16: 49
      +3
      Quote: And Us Rat
      How much can you procrastinate this topic? The third or fourth article on this topic in a month - and one is similar to the other as twins, only the title changes.

      It’s better to read about his predecessor about Nautilus, by the way I had the opinion that Skygard could compete with the LCD or complement it. Here the film found about this business and it turned out that I was not the only one who held this opinion.

      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 24 December 2013 18: 45
        +4
        Quote: Ascetic
        By the way, I had the opinion that Skygard could compete well with the LCD or complement it ...


        The budget was designed for only one system, and the LCD has one huge advantage, unlike a laser that knocks down the target in series, the LCD can intercept the whole volley at once. Battery LCD, this is 3 PU with 20 rockets each (60 rockets).
        The capabilities of the radar make it possible to use all 60 missiles in one salvo, when connecting batteries to the network - the number of targets followed and hit is limited solely by the number of batteries. Reloading modular launchers takes about 20 minutes, and is based on the principle of rotation, 3 in service, 3 are charged.
        Roughly speaking, a network of 3 batteries can intercept a volley of up to 180 missiles every 10 minutes. 4б - 240. 5б - 280 and so on. (and given that three-quarters of the missiles fall into the wasteland - and therefore the system ignores them) In order to achieve similar efficiency from the laser - it must be made more powerful, quickly charging and multi-barrel (that is, several emitters of independent guidance instead of one). And yet the LCD is a full-fledged short-range air defense system with colossal firepower (60! Missiles with a coefficient of 0.95 + - you can fill up air division with one salvo)

        Recently, we had a telecast about the reactor in Nahal-Sorek, and so the reactor itself has not been important there for a long time, there is a laboratory for research and development of lasers, for transparent, but thick hints of intervening - you do not have to be seven spans in the forehead to understand what they are engaged there in addition to medical lasers, just do not trumpet about it, unlike amers.
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 24 December 2013 11: 53
    +5
    As far back as I can remember, the Americans have been working on the Death Star. On paper - beautiful, in fact - something shitty comes out. The main thing for us is not to fall for such clumsy modernized SDIs, and not to let ourselves be drawn into the bubble peeling race.
  6. shinobi
    shinobi 24 December 2013 11: 59
    0
    Yeah, it was already. In the third round I already went.

    PS: It will be like with their own laser Boeing: Sorry, hurried up with conclusions, and the money all went to research.
    ZY.ZY. Since when did the word V.B.R.O.C. become not watered correct or is this cyber censor buggy?
  7. makarov
    makarov 24 December 2013 12: 08
    +2
    "In the near future, it is possible that a new laser weapon will be created. This is the conclusion reached by experts from the American Lexington Institute ..."

    According to analysts, this is possible in about 6-7 years.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 24 December 2013 14: 58
      -2
      Each time, this coincides quite accidentally with a commission approving another grant to experts. Mystic...
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 24 December 2013 17: 28
      0
      Quote: makarov
      "According to analysts' calculations, this is possible in about 6-7 years.

      It is interesting to know how the main problem of lasers is solved, that is, shooting through fog, or dust?
  8. Syrdon
    Syrdon 24 December 2013 12: 17
    +1
    in reality, the USSR advanced in this topic; there were active ground-based, aviation, and even space-based models.
    1. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 24 December 2013 12: 43
      +3
      In the USSR, they were swimming. In the US, they are REALLY, and continue to develop, although still far from being delivered to the troops.
  9. Tirpitz
    Tirpitz 24 December 2013 12: 37
    +1
    Quote: Siberia
    There is one on one of the Black Sea Fleet ships from the end of 80's. One shot costs like two cast-iron bridges. Passed state testing for weapons is not accepted. There are cheaper methods. Although it shoots beautifully))))

    Is it on the ship? Please clarify
    1. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing 24 December 2013 13: 02
      +1
      Test vessel "Dixon" http://flot.sevastopol.info/ship/vspomog/dikson.htm

      For example, it was found that even the smallest piercing of the stabilizer or glider of a cruise missile is enough to ensure that the incoming air flow would ruin it to pieces.
      1. Tirpitz
        Tirpitz 24 December 2013 16: 27
        0
        It has long been sold for scrap.
      2. AK-47
        AK-47 24 December 2013 17: 12
        0
        Quote: Dunno
        Test vessel "Dixon"

        Thanks for the link.
        Short excerpt from the article.
        The US Department of Defense at a shipyard in Ukraine bought a batch of scrap metal, consisting of several warships of the USSR. In the hold of one of them, representatives of the American military department found 35-megawatt power generators, special rotary mechanisms, large-capacity refrigeration units and other equipment, the analysis of which led to the conclusion that at one time the ship carried laser weapons on board. However, the Pentagon immediately classified any information about the technical capabilities of the latest Soviet weapons and their components.
        1. alone
          alone 24 December 2013 21: 36
          0
          what Can you imagine the Americans were so happy? Sell ​​it at the price of scrap metal belay
  10. Igor39
    Igor39 24 December 2013 12: 53
    +7
    As a child, I remember having seen enough of all sorts of star wars, they played in them and always argued with whom the laser had, who had the blaster, and who was cooler. What is the difference between a laser and a blaster and who in the end would still be cooler ... And no one remembered the main difference. The laser shoots like this: “pyschschschschsch!”, And the blaster - “piu-piu!”. laughing
  11. lotar
    lotar 24 December 2013 12: 55
    -1
    And I hope that our scouts have already stolen their achievements on this topic, and in turn will do worse.
  12. Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 24 December 2013 13: 08
    0
    Let the adversaries go in for Leshimy and Kikimors ... a lot of money is being invested in dubious star wars so far)))
    1. me
      me 24 December 2013 17: 18
      +3
      And why not do it because the whole world pays.
  13. user1212
    user1212 24 December 2013 13: 09
    0
    1. energy source
    2. diffusion of the beam in the atmosphere
    3. weather. Rain, fog, snow, dust cloud, etc.
    4. The fundamental ability to reflect the beam, incl. back
    1. SerAll
      SerAll 25 December 2013 00: 28
      0
      Good evening, I agree if the laser is in the form of a beam, and if the Electromagnetic "beam"? While fast-breaking processes in different environments are diagnosed with "bundles", ... it was -10 years, now it is no longer in the subject ... whether they brought it or not ...
  14. sxn278619
    sxn278619 24 December 2013 13: 14
    +1
    Lasers are cool. Instead of an aircraft carrier, it is necessary to launch lasers into space. They pohirili then Diamond.
  15. mountain
    mountain 24 December 2013 13: 55
    +4
    If someone thinks that we are behind in this area, then they are mistaken. To the topic that we do not know how to keep secrets. I personally saw the results of these technologies.
    1. energy source
    2. diffusion of the beam in the atmosphere
    3. weather. Rain, fog, snow, dust cloud, etc.
    4. The fundamental ability to reflect the beam, incl. back
    Everything under the numbers is no longer essential.
    1. user1212
      user1212 24 December 2013 17: 11
      0
      Quote: mountain
      Everything under the numbers is no longer essential.

      Vague doubts torment me ... the non-scattering, non-reflecting, non-refracting laser beam is ... it is somehow strange
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 24 December 2013 17: 31
      0
      Quote: mountain
      Everything under the numbers is no longer essential.

      Please specify how the dispersion problem is solved?
  16. Power
    Power 24 December 2013 14: 05
    +1
    For the second time I see this picture with a painted ray. Why didn’t they draw Dark Vader? Christmas is so Christmas. If you tell tales, then more imagination and horror stories. negative
    1. dimon-media
      dimon-media 24 December 2013 18: 46
      0
      Quote: Strength
      For the second time I see this picture with a painted ray. Why didn’t they draw Dark Vader? Christmas is so Christmas. If you tell tales, then more imagination and horror stories.

      ..and that's right, colleague! laughing If our ICBMs really exist and fly, then the whole world sees it on YouTube and our guys who serve there (in the Strategic Missile Forces). And they, in addition to drawing and voicing, have nothing! ))) This makes both laugh and enrages at the same time laughing
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 24 December 2013 19: 28
        0
        Quote: dimon-media
        This makes both laugh and enrages at the same time

        But why? Why are they worse than Iran or S. Korea, who have a miracle of weapons in bulk?lol
    2. maxvet
      maxvet 24 December 2013 21: 00
      0
      Quote: Strength
      Why didn't Dark Vader draw

      Why should they draw their president everywhere? laughing
  17. Vadim12
    Vadim12 24 December 2013 14: 22
    +1
    Let them spend money, as in Reagan, give birth to something sensible — steal or buy.
  18. 7even
    7even 24 December 2013 14: 24
    +1
    I also know how to draw)))))
  19. knn54
    knn54 24 December 2013 14: 31
    +1
    The cheapest way to equalize the chances is missile systems for hitting space laser platforms.
  20. Rishi
    Rishi 24 December 2013 14: 31
    0
    I wonder what source of energy
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 24 December 2013 18: 29
      0
      Quote: RISHI
      I wonder what source of energy

      the muscular power of the prisoners of Guantanamo and illegal Mexicans.
  21. Black
    Black 24 December 2013 14: 47
    +3
    The laser system can be converted to a sensor, ... or even a non-lethal weapon
    ... as well as a laser pointer, a razor, and a nut cracker !!!
  22. Smith
    Smith 24 December 2013 15: 04
    +1
    Another cut amerskim private companies of the US military budget. They came up with something, did something, pulled in greenhouse conditions, arranged a gorgeous presentation and .... And that’s all !!! It does not go further. Loot but mastered. In my opinion, there is dofig of cheap counteraction to the laser beam. I do not understand much, but even bad weather will reduce the effectiveness of this particular. To publicize their work is generally in the spirit of amers. They will die out without it.
  23. negeroi
    negeroi 24 December 2013 16: 23
    +1
    In the United States, Vekselbergs and Abramovichs earn money on military orders. They make good money. Military experimental equipment is the most highly profitable business after drugs. There are no workers, there are only engineers and not tens of thousands, but by the piece, well, just tens and just hundreds. problems with trade unions, highly scientific, high-tech, very, very expensive. The order is advanced. Everyone is happy. On their money, Lockheed and Boeing are only promising developments, those that will definitely buy the government. And so ... They Tukhachevsky not put to the wall, but ash the volume is showered for creativity. The scheme drank the dough as old as the world. But no matter how we joke, even such a dough cut is an accumulation of technology, and constant scientific development, which ultimately makes the United States leaders in the field of military highly scientific developments. .Therefore, cutting loot is not very honest with fellow taxpayers in particular, but very patriotic in general and in fact. This was a dumb conclusion long before the Middle Ages. Without a dough, there is no incentive. The whip works during the life of one dictator's time emergency or war, and bablopilenie Effectively VSEGDA.Priglyadishsya like debauchery, like fuck, and markups in principle Improving demografii.Dialektika however, the struggle of opposites.
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 24 December 2013 21: 01
      0
      There is cooler there - what is the purchase of the drug "Tommy Flew" against swine flu for the US Army
    2. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 24 December 2013 21: 41
      +2
      Is ShyShyA a leader in some developments? As far as I know, they are a leader in the purchase of developers. And they themselves can’t even make a sled :-)
      1. Marine One
        Marine One 25 December 2013 01: 42
        0
        Quote: Stroibat stock
        Is ShyShyA a leader in some developments?

        You have the opportunity to freely and around the clock scribble any brainless nonsense into the public space (Internet), including thanks to the American companies Intel, Microsoft, Google, the American company Cisco, the University of California and many other "Shyshy" companies and organizations
  24. kelevra
    kelevra 24 December 2013 17: 16
    0
    They would deal with problems in the sphere of their external debt, but they would deal with the mortgage, or how the shell will crack the USA!
  25. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 24 December 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Quote: Ivan.
    If I am not mistaken, they have long been used in industry as a cutting tool. It’s funny to me personally when they talk about the high cost of a shot, because a combat lazar should shoot with pulses, that is, the flux density is important and not the amount of energy or power consumption of the installation because it is just light.

    Sorry, but you write nonsense. Firstly, the sheet of metal is stationary, and secondly, it is at a minimum distance from the emitter (and this is important). Since the dispersion of the beam is minimal that will not happen when firing at a distance, which means that the amount of energy at a particular point will decrease many times. With the declared power of 15 kV, they could only show what they got (to light a mine or a shell) In reality, they would boil it for an hour before something happened to it (they rotate). Also, the impulse is not so smooth that you need it the capacity to be charged (the capacity is gigantic). It charges for a long time, discharges instantly, hence the low rate of fire and energy costs. Plus low survivability of the laser body and the installation itself. In general, this is an ordinary demonstrator of opportunities and they really did not bring down anything and in the near future (about 50 years) will not. The laws of physics almost put an end to the use of a laser as a weapon in the atmosphere (except as a blinding and target designation).
    1. negeroi
      negeroi 24 December 2013 18: 30
      +1
      And I liked most of all - "the flux density and not the amount of energy or the power consumption of the installation because it is just light." Sounds like - if you slowly press the switch - the light will slowly go out.)
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 24 December 2013 18: 49
        0
        Quote: negeroi
        negeroi
        laughing Do not guess! This means that despite the fact that at the north pole as brightly as at the equator you will not be able to earn a sunstroke! laughing In this case, the energy source is the same and at the same distance.
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    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. 24 December 2013 18: 30
      +1
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      1c-inform-city

      Rather, you and not only do not want to think. And now, in turn:
      A 1-sheet moves at a processing speed, the metal thickness is important, its reflectivity, heat capacity and thermal conductivity as well as the transparency of the medium through which the beam and the wavelength of the light beam pass, so the transparency of the medium depends on the wavelength, quality and focusing characteristics. Distance plays little role. An example (in my hands) is green (and red or infrared light with less losses passes through the air and is simpler, more powerful and cheaper to manufacture) with a 532nm 200mW pointer, you can light a match with the same size, even with 5cm with at least 5m depends on the focus there is just a piece of plastic. If this beam is normally focused, then the range of the backlight will be tens / hundreds or more km, depending on where the beam is directed, up or along the ground. Without fog, of course smile
      2-time charging of capacitors depends on the internal resistance and for pulse capacitors it is small as well as discharge rate (this is interdependent)
      Plus low survivability of the laser body and the installation itself.
      It depends on the mode of use as with an LED - the less the load, the higher the durability, and exponentially.
      The rest is about nothing. Yes, by the way, stop putting an equal sign between kW and kW \ h to which everyone is used to. Do not write if you have no idea what is at stake.
      1. 1c-inform-city
        1c-inform-city 24 December 2013 18: 48
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        Well, try to focus. So far, no one has achieved acceptable results. And it was not for nothing that they wrote that they fell only into mines and shells of hail at the midpoint of the trajectory. And what does sq / h have to do, then they would write joules, as it was written in the article. It’s just that this power is clearly not enough to detonate these shells, explosive deformation will not occur precisely because of rotation and they are not very afraid of general heating (they will not have time to get very hot. Or do you want to say that they instantly evaporate from this laser?) information the maximum that achieved 10 km-10cm. And think in vain that these programs appear like mushrooms after rain, and then after 3-4 years they were already close under two dozen. And do not say that a 1cm match will light up as quickly as a 10m match, especially if the air is not perfectly transparent.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 24 December 2013 19: 20
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          Quote: 1c-inform-city
          So try to focus

          Not fair! I described the difficulties and you sign me to solve them.
          Quote: 1c-inform-city
          And it was not for nothing that they wrote that they fell only into mines and shells of hail at the midpoint of the trajectory

          Now, if you remember, they sometimes exploded several shells - a direct hint of poor focus.
          Quote: 1c-inform-city
          And where does the sq / h, then they would write joules

          And despite the fact that they indicate power in kW, I don’t know what they mean by the installation or beam power, but everyone already imagines transformer stations of the corresponding dimensions.
          Quote: 1c-inform-city
          Or do you want to say that they instantly evaporate from this laser?)

          If they are able to achieve an increase in the flux density and only in the place of interaction, there is a direct analogy with a bullet or a projectile: when a certain speed and density is reached, penetration-interaction of armor should be considered from the point of view of not solid bodies but liquid ones, if we consider this topic in a peasant (terminology) way .
  26. dimon-media
    dimon-media 24 December 2013 18: 37
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    The US is preparing a new generation of laser weapons
    I didn’t even read the article, the title was enough. Show me, dear mattresses, these are weapons of the previous generation. Overpowered already with their cheap show-offs .. just keep us fools? Nothing more to take, except as a lie and show off your?
  27. negeroi
    negeroi 24 December 2013 18: 37
    0
    So this, in the sense of cursing a problem with her, with focusing that. The infection is dissipating.
  28. voliador
    voliador 24 December 2013 18: 38
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    Maybe he sawed it, but only, unlike ours, real research is being carried out there, new technologies are being developed, and not cottages for the generals.
  29. nod739
    nod739 24 December 2013 19: 46
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    .. I will not repeat. all that is already known
    but about the new principles in lasers, in a nutshell:
    I haven’t heard for so long that they are fighting (or maybe ours are fighting) over the creation of a gamma laser, and so it doesn’t rain fog, I don’t care at all, and you won’t wrap it with a mirror, the wavelength is set so that it goes out in the metal.
    but the problem remains - the source of energy
    Yes, and the laser itself
  30. Power
    Power 24 December 2013 20: 04
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    Probably Chubais is throwing the desu away, so that after, with its mysterious nano laser, evaporate the next billions in Rusnano.
  31. poquello
    poquello 24 December 2013 23: 05
    +1
    As I understand it, ours is not very necessary, that is, we can, but we are not straining, because it is not global. Well, the Americans, as always ...
    http://warsonline.info/pvo/ssha-sozdali-sovoy-boevoy-lazer-na-osnove-sovetskich-

    razrabotok.html
    Konstantin Sivkov, a doctor of military sciences, confirms that Russia can find a worthy answer to the successes of Americans. For this, only political will is needed.

    - The Yeltsin team betrayed Russia's interests in full. What happened in the 1990s was not a mistake and not an attempt to build another state, but total treason.

    As for the transferred technologies. We had an unshakable superiority in the development of combat lasers. In the Soviet Union, the development of lasers for shooting down cruise missiles was carried out. In Feodosia there was a ship equipped with a laser, successfully tested. But the Yeltsin gang transferred all the technology to the Americans.

    At the same time, our scientific teams that were engaged in this were dispersed. And this applies not only to lasers. For example, we created a unique Yak-141 vertical take-off aircraft, which was a quarter century ahead of its time. The Americans were only now able to create something similar: the F-35 Lightning II. They also created it based on our technologies. They came to us in 1993 and the management of the Yakolev Design Bureau handed them the documentation. The department itself in the design bureau, which dealt with this aircraft, was practically dissolved, and the enterprise that produced the engines was reprofiled.

    in general, by reference, a funny article about what the laser and means of dealing with it can
  32. 416494
    416494 25 December 2013 00: 07
    +1
    What will this article discuss every month here?
  33. rpek32
    rpek32 25 December 2013 00: 37
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    Quote: 416494
    What will this article discuss every month here?

    so a new laser every month. laughing
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  35. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 25 December 2013 09: 31
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    Dear Ivan, I’m not trying to prove that you don’t know physics. I'm just talking about the complexities of using a laser as an impact weapon. They try to do a laser all the time for this, and this is exactly what’s not happening. It’s just that the laser transfers energy from point a to point c well (in theory). But it is precisely the problem of focusing, and most importantly, its stability that stands in the way. And the power supply is obtained a very decent size precisely because of this. After all, energy transfer with good efficiency does not work, because energy is required for the detection and guidance system. That is why the power plant turns out to be the size of a couple of sea containers, and use in combat conditions is impossible. About the fact that their mines exploded nowhere is indicated, you can declare them shot down simply by lighting.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 25 December 2013 10: 41
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      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      They try to do a laser all the time for this, and that’s exactly what

      Well, thank God because it won’t bring any good.
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      About the fact that their mines exploded nowhere is indicated, you can declare them shot down simply by lighting.

      What is this?
      During the tests, there were cases of the simultaneous destruction of several ammunition.

      The power supply unit is bulky, as I think, because the pulse must be short and powerful, which means a large capacity, and pulse converters are usually small in capacity, so they need a lot + complexity with switching, they must turn on synchronously, etc. + your comments ... it’s true if the lazar is in constant operation, although not for long, seconds, everything is somewhat different.
      According to the meager information that it is impossible to judge in the article, only to guess.
  36. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 25 December 2013 10: 09
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    In 1994, NG Basov, answering a question about the results of the Terra-3 laser program, said: “Well, we firmly established that no one can shoot down a ballistic missile warhead with a laser beam, and we have made great advances in lasers…”. In the late 1990s, all work at the facilities of the Terra-3 complex was stopped.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 25 December 2013 11: 03
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      I agree, and for a long time they will not be able to! smile
  37. daladin
    daladin 4 August 2014 14: 41
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    there is also protection from the laser. anti-laser coating exists.