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We are drowned by a “team of professionals”

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We are drowned by a “team of professionals”The actions of our financiers threaten the food security of the country


Finance is considered a matter of inaccessible to mere mortals. “Professionals” who own the secrets of money circulation and banking regulation have long been formed into some kind of closed caste, the controlling ministry of finance and the Central Bank, which are so tightly welded and organized that even other structures of the government have to give in to them.

The stubborn reluctance of financiers to allocate money to the social sphere led to the fact that the relevant presidential decrees were simply failed. Openly declare that these decisions will not be implemented, no one, of course, did not want to, but an approach was chosen, in essence, much more dangerous. Responsibility for the implementation of decrees shifted to the regions, and the regional administrations were not given money. As a result, by the end of this year, 60 percent of the subjects of the federation were on the verge of bankruptcy.

Russia's entry into the World Trade Organization, which was aggressively lobbied by the same financial circles, turned into a massive closure of enterprises, wage delays and disruption of local budgets. But the “team of professionals”, formed by the previous Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, looks at what is happening with the Olympic tranquility.

Kudrin himself, having left his post and not bearing responsibility for the consequences of his policy, continues to haughty existing administrators, sharply condemning any attempts at least to do something to improve the situation of the real sector.

A typical example is the situation with the problem of offshore. In this case, the Russian ruling circles are following the general discussion that began among the G-20 governments. The policy of financial deregulation that has been pursued in developed countries over the past two decades has led not only to massive capital outflows, but also made investments in the real sector much more expensive than before. After all, on the one hand, it is necessary to ensure the profit of all kinds of intermediaries ensuring the functioning of an offshore economy, and on the other hand, the state from which funds are withdrawn loses taxes. At the same time, no one relieves him of obligations, including to the business that takes money offshore - building roads, infrastructure facilities, ensuring security, and so on and so forth.

The specificity of the Russian economy is that a significant part of private sector investment comes from the same offshore. In other words, the money goes abroad first, then comes back here, since there is no other application for them. Paradoxically, this gives the Russian authorities potentially serious control over the movement of capital: once the offshore bourgeoisie is interested in our market, it can be forced to adhere to more stringent rules.

However, so far no serious measures have been taken. This time, we are finally offered a program of action. In a message to the Federal Assembly, Vladimir Putin said that the income of companies registered in offshore and owned by the Russian owner should be taxed according to the Russian tax rules, and tax payments should be paid to the Russian budget. Companies registered in foreign jurisdiction will not be able to use state support measures, including loans from Vnesheconombank and state guarantees. In addition, for providing deliberately inaccurate, incomplete information about the situation of banks, insurance companies, pension funds and other financial organizations will be criminalized. These requirements apply not only to private business, but also to managers of state-controlled companies and development institutions.

These measures immediately provoked a protest by liberal economists.

Kudrin made a brief and categorical verdict: “Unfortunately, the proposed measures for deoffshorization in our conditions are unlikely to reduce the withdrawal of capital. They are correct for state-owned companies. ”

In other words, state-owned companies should be banned from tax evasion, leaving this right exclusively for the private sector. A wonderful example of "class consciousness"! Let them be in conflict with logic - why are the same measures permissible for state-owned companies and unacceptable for the private sector? After all, in accordance with the market logic imposed by the same Kudrin and his associates, who still control the Ministry of Finance, all companies, regardless of the form of ownership, live with us according to the general rules. According to the rules of the neoliberal system.

Speaking about the measures proposed by the president, Kudrin said that this "a tactical reaction to problems, we need a strategic plan for its withdrawal from stagnation." It is difficult to argue with the latter. I would just like to know what plan Mr. Kudrin offers us? Didn’t the policy that fostered the mass withdrawal of capital to offshore develop and flourish with him? And did not decisions were made with him that contributed to the exacerbation of the economic crisis in Russia? We had a recession in 2008, when Kudrin was still at the helm of financial policy and was one of the sharpest in the world. By and large, the whole strategy of Kudrin and the liberal experts boils down to two points: 1) do nothing and wait for the market to fix everything; 2) strengthen market factors, minimize government regulation, privatize everything that remains state, in the expectation that the market will fix everything. (See item 1).

The fact that it is this policy that predetermined the urgency and unprecedented delay of the current crisis, both in the whole world and in Russia, does not affect the thinking of our liberals.

From this, of course, it does not follow that the recommendations of the president are the ultimate truth. A number of questions remain concerning the practical methodology for the implementation of this program.

In order to radically change the situation, it would be possible to propose more aggressive measures, up to a total ban on the return to the country of funds transferred to offshore companies - which would sharply reduce the outflow of capital.

But the discontent of Kudrin and other representatives of the financial bloc was not at all caused by insufficient radicalism or insufficient effectiveness of such measures. If that were the case, they would make counter offers. It is, in fact, that these people not only do not seek to “deoffshorize” capital, but on the contrary, defend the interests of the offshore bourgeoisie, ignoring the problems of the state and workers in the real sector.

The only thing that really cares for them is the stability of banks and organizations through which money scrolls. But here, preference is given to several major financial corporations. In an effort to protect them from the possible effects of the crisis, the Central Bank, headed by Elvira Nabiullina, another bright representative of the same “team of professionals,” began clearing out the average banks, first of all regional ones. As a result, a wave of local crises swept the country — from Tula to Kaliningrad, thousands of people were suddenly deprived of access to their savings. Crowds of frightened depositors were gathering at the door of the banks still working, panic arising. Additional expenses fell on the state: it is necessary to fulfill deposit insurance obligations.

The biggest problems were caused by the closure of the Master Bank, through which many companies throughout Russia made their non-cash payments. For several days, their work was practically blocked - with obvious consequences not only for these organizations, but also for the economy as a whole.

In essence, trying to prevent a financial crisis with the help of preventive sweeps in the banking sector, the Central Bank headed by Nabiullina provoked it. And, in any case, brought closer. The reliability of many financial institutions has been called into question; the whole area is in the zone of turbulence. Instead of strengthening mutual trust in the financial sector, these actions of the Central Bank caused the opposite effect. The interbank lending market is paralyzed. At this very moment, at a meeting of the Federation Council, the words of Finance Minister Anton Siluanov are heard that support for Rosselkhozbank may be suspended, and shortly before that another system bank, VEB, was hit. At the very moment when the developers of Olympic facilities threaten to default on their loans.

The minister clearly relies on the recommendations of liberal economists, who see in banks only organizations that exist for profit. If the debtors with whom the bank works are in a difficult situation, and there are problems with the return of loans, it is necessary either to squeeze money at any cost, or to close the bank itself as ineffective. At the same time, the economic and social function of banks supporting the reproduction of not only individual enterprises, but entire industries and regions is completely overlooked, as is the case with RSBB.

The difficulties of the bank are caused by the objectively worsening situation in which our agriculture finds itself. It was touched not only by the global economic crisis, which led, among other things, to a sharp rise in the cost of loans. Russia's accession to the WTO happened on far from the most successful conditions for Russian producers.

In a situation of instability in global markets, protectionist measures are as justified and necessary as quarantine during an epidemic.

However, the WTO rules not only limit the ability to support domestic producers, but also make this support extremely expensive and ineffective where it is still allowed. By minimizing the use of prohibitive and restrictive customs tariffs, the WTO offers the government to compensate enterprises in small amounts with subsidies - in other words, to spend money instead of receiving them. It is not hard to guess that this did not increase the funds in the state budget, there is not enough money for everyone, they simply do not get to many manufacturers. Defending direct subsidies as the only or main form of assistance to agribusiness, the Ministry of Finance forgets that such assistance can be obtained only by large farms. Small and medium-sized businesses face death, and with it the emerging class of farmers will disappear from the social map of Russia.

In such conditions, on the one hand, the clients of the Russian Agricultural Bank face increasing difficulties, and on the other hand, the need of the agricultural sector in a state bank that is able to provide businesses with affordable credit and treat their problems with understanding is rapidly increasing. In fact, RSHB is almost the only instrument left in the hands of the state to maintain and develop the agrarian sector after Russia’s accession to the WTO.

Leaving agricultural producers alone with the market means not only taking the risk of numerous bankruptcies, but also undermining the economy of entire regions where production, employment and social structure depend on agriculture. While economists talk a lot about the threat of a chain reaction of bankruptcies in the financial sphere, for some reason they are not afraid of the danger of exactly the same collapse in the real sector, although much more people depend on it.

Throughout 2000, Russia's agriculture, which had traditionally been a weak link in Soviet times, had achieved some success. It is enough to remember that our country has become an exporter from the grain importer, and the agricultural sector enterprises have learned to do without the annual mobilization of millions of citizens to harvest potatoes or beets. However, the current achievements are now under threat, and with them the food security of Russia.

Of course, liberal economists are not too concerned about such problems. And if for the sake of stabilizing the financial market, in their opinion, they have to sacrifice the agrarian sector, the welfare of some regions of Russia, farmers, or even question the interests of the state as a whole, then so be it. The financial market is perceived by them as a kind of deity, to which they are ready to make more significant sacrifices. But the problem is that even at such a price the goal they set is unlikely to be achieved.

It is unlikely that the refusal of state support of the Agricultural Bank will strengthen the financial market of the country, strengthen mutual trust in it, make credit more accessible or reduce the risk of a crisis. Rather, the opposite. In the end, a blow to such an important market participant will only increase nervousness and provoke a wave of negative expectations: who will be next? All this only exacerbates tensions in the banking market, creating the threat of a new systemic crisis in this area. It turns out exactly what they wanted to avoid.

The “team of professionals”, having memorized mantras from poorly translated American textbooks, categorically does not want to learn from its mistakes, or even from the experience of the United States and the European Union, where exactly the same measures have already led to an aggravation and prolonging of the crisis.

The crisis of the Russian economy is largely objective. But the way in which they are trying to fight him makes one recall a famous saying about a medicine that is worse than a disease.
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  1. Ihrek
    Ihrek 25 December 2013 07: 23
    +35
    We need to invest more money in our real sector of the economy and not in American securities. If this had been done earlier, now we would already have profit from this and would begin to slowly peel off the oil needle.
    1. major071
      major071 25 December 2013 08: 05
      +54
      Well, they can’t invest in their own country; But systematically kill industry and with a smart look say that it should be so - they can, considering the people a stupid cattle. And no matter how their opponents prove that such an economy leads to the abyss, they will nevertheless stand their ground, because that is what they and their western masters need. am
      1. Civil
        Civil 25 December 2013 08: 45
        +12
        I would tell you about this feeding trough Rosselkhozbank, but employees of one well-known organization know all the schemes better than me.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 25 December 2013 12: 30
          +16
          That's where the feeder
        2. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 25 December 2013 14: 20
          +5
          Quote: Civil
          I would tell you about this feeding trough Rosselkhozbank

          By the way, pay attention to the amount of advertising of this bank on TV - a bad sign.
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      2. Airman
        Airman 25 December 2013 12: 09
        +12
        Quote: major071
        Well, they can’t invest in their own country; But systematically kill industry and with a smart look say that it should be so - they can, considering the people a stupid cattle. And no matter how their opponents prove that such an economy leads to the abyss, they will nevertheless stand their ground, because that is what they and their western masters need. am


        Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people! But for some reason those in power do not want to change this "team of professionals" (or cannot), but draw your own conclusions. In words, one thing, but in deeds another.
        1. 222222
          222222 25 December 2013 12: 16
          +2
          PADDLE (2) SU Today, 12: 09 ↑ New
          ..About air defense ...
          We are drowned by a "team of professionals" Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people! But for some reason the powers that be do not want to change this "team of professionals" (or cannot) ..............
          "Khodorkovsky is in Berlin, Ashurbeyli is in London" ....
          http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/2013/12/24/
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 25 December 2013 18: 28
            +4
            Quote: 222222
            PADDLE (2) SU Today, 12: 09 ↑ New
            ..About air defense ...
            We are drowned by a "team of professionals" Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people! But for some reason the powers that be do not want to change this "team of professionals" (or cannot) ..............
            "Khodorkovsky is in Berlin, Ashurbeyli is in London" ....
            http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/2013/12/24/

            Not respected to you, but to Pvoshnik, The words of Stalin should be quoted verbatim:
            Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people, but FRAMES decide everything
            , so his speech sounded at the XVI with the "ride of the VKPB, and after that the purges in the party went.
            Plant a little, Very little, the Son is not responsible for the father, but the father is obliged for the son.
            Where did Chubais, Kravchuk and Gaidar come from?
            Gaidar was a doorway (try to pronounce it in English, but only together, in a word), a rare animal that is not even worthy of burial, and do not push the name of Chubais for the night.
          2. Tartary
            Tartary 26 December 2013 02: 53
            +1
            Quote: 222222
            We are drowned by a "team of professionals" Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people! But for some reason the powers that be do not want to change this "team of professionals" (or cannot) ..............
            "Khodorkovsky is in Berlin, Ashurbeyli is in London" ....

            Kagarlitsky is right here - without leaving the ticket office ...
            Article - BOLD minus !!

            Boris Kagarlitsky is a FarVex agent! Slave of the fosterlings of the State Department! Swamp mouse! Herald of the left oppositionists!
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        2. Theophanes
          Theophanes 25 December 2013 19: 50
          +5
          Failure to comply with presidential decrees is the main indicator of the work of a swamp called the government of the Russian Federation. Entry into the g ... o called WTO during the reign of the Lady and the betrayal of Gaddafi is one unbreakable chain of liberal betrayal of Russia. The fact that the ministers spit on the President is in the end the President's own business !!! He wipes himself off and praises the government. He seems to like to walk around spat upon! But enti "reformers" are spitting on us: after all, the President was elected by the whole world! Where to sign the resignation of all entih .....?! And where is the FSB? !!! Stalin is needed more than ever !!!
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 25 December 2013 20: 46
            +3
            Quote: Theophanes
            Failure to comply with Presidential decrees is the main indicator of the work of the swamp called the government of the Russian Federation.

            Entry into g ... o called WTO during the reign of DAM
          2. alone
            alone 25 December 2013 22: 25
            +3
            Quote: Theophanes
            Failure to comply with Presidential decrees is the main indicator of the work of the swamp called the government of the Russian Federation.


            Mdya .. sorry, of course, but who recommended the members of the government and specifically the prime minister for these posts? Me? You? Yarosvet? Maybe Romanov Alexander? belay
            1. Normal
              Normal 25 December 2013 23: 09
              +2
              Quote: lonely
              I AM? You? Yarosvet? Maybe Romanov Alexander?

              AND I! AND I! Forgot me ?! laughing wink
              1. alone
                alone 25 December 2013 23: 25
                +2



                AND I! AND I! Forgot me ?! laughing wink
                laughing belay Normal, have you really recommended))? wassat
                1. Normal
                  Normal 26 December 2013 01: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: lonely
                  Normal, have you really recommended))?

                  Yeah! I dragged them there by the ears, but they didn’t rest ... wink
      3. Power
        Power 25 December 2013 16: 05
        +6
        When you think your people are stupid cattle, it’s morally easier to rob, steal and cheat, and if you take your family to permanent residence and fly here only to work, then the problems of stupid Aborigines become smaller and more distant.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 25 December 2013 17: 21
          +3
          But not-so-stupid Aborigines can (if they really are) and give an answer, there were such cases in history, a little, but bloody. And for the top they usually didn’t end with anything good.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 25 December 2013 21: 48
          +2
          Quote: Strength
          When you think your people are stupid cattle, it’s morally easier to rob, steal and cheat, and if you take your family to permanent residence and fly here only to work, then the problems of stupid Aborigines become smaller and more distant.

          The problems of our official, unlike the USSR, are that he has come off his foundation - the society in which he lives, forgetting that he is employed by this society to perform certain functions.
          As for Kudrin directly ... as the Arabs say, “A student must surpass his teacher!” The system of finance created under him is working and developing, the vector set by him - all the money in Washington works! Only now is she being attacked by him, for actions approved by him directly and monitoring the thoroughness of the execution.
          Two-faced he ........ no faith to him !!!!
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 25 December 2013 23: 47
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            finance system works

            The office writes!
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 December 2013 08: 08
      +27
      The “team of professionals” from finance and economics created conditions of existence that are murderous for Russia.
      One of them, the offshore economy, has become threatening.
      But something else is surprising here. Why hasn’t Russia's top government been fighting offshore for 20 years?
      Why is it not possible for us to have individual entrepreneurship and small business without registration? Is Article 171 "Illegal Business" pursued by the Criminal Code for its application, up to imprisonment?
      But the withdrawal of large business in offshore, i.e. full tax evasion when finding the business itself and its enterprises in Russia, i.e., also illegal business, are not prosecuted.
      Double standards gentlemen power-holding!
      And until when will the authorities liberalize with them, engaging in persuasions and promises not to provide benefits and budget injections?
      The latter is generally perplexing. How can an offshore business also be stimulated?
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 25 December 2013 08: 21
        +9
        And the supreme authority, at meetings and state councils, takes everything in pencil and writes, peeeeeeet, peepeeeeee .....
        Like, with a smart look, wow, how will I write it down, because I am a "patriot" and "great President" of the country)))) and I am writing a course on recovery ... wow, how can I write it down))))
        It is engaged in imitation of activity, and only reptiloid or zombie can write like that ....
        And that with such scribbles you can improve things in the economy, conduct a competent foreign and domestic policy ....

        Do not hope, and m m and t and c and I, Putinism, We are rolling into the abyss.
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 25 December 2013 08: 50
          +17
          Asgard, well, here you have a picture of the President ...
          do not disgrace yourself. This demotivator has long been exposed, and the author wrote what he was "just joking." I removed the real text and added a scribble picture. For a beginner, this is a task for 5 minutes)))
          do not repeat other people's nonsense. Or at least try to check the information ...
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 25 December 2013 08: 57
            +23
            Quote: ....
            And the supreme power, at meetings and state councils takes everything in pencil

            The highest power has been living in a fairy tale for 12 years. Man has been living in it for 12 years, in Russia, but in another. A small problem with the irremovability of power is that senior officials completely lose touch with reality. His prices for housing and communal services are steadily declining, and the quality is growing (who would doubt that he is growing and what about payment - so he does not pay for anything). A receipt, for example, for utilities, when did he last see him in real life? Or, for example, milk. When was the last time he bought milk at the store? Do you think he knows how much a liter of milk costs? But he knows how much gas costs on the world market, that’s understandable, this is his business, and what do we need? We do not sell gas, but we buy milk. He sees this world only through the tinted glass of a member of the cart. Communicates with specially selected representatives of the intelligentsia and the working class. And he reads the reports, well, they prepare him all kinds of memos. And what do they write in them? 12 years, a person lives not so much in another country, but on another planet.
            1. Airman
              Airman 25 December 2013 13: 19
              +7
              Quote: Vadivak
              Quote: ....
              And the supreme power, at meetings and state councils takes everything in pencil

              The highest power has been living in a fairy tale for 12 years. Man has been living in it for 12 years, in Russia, but in another. A small problem with the irremovability of power is that senior officials completely lose touch with reality. His prices for housing and communal services are steadily declining, and the quality is growing (who would doubt that he is growing and what about payment - so he does not pay for anything). A receipt, for example, for utilities, when did he last see him in real life? Or, for example, milk. When was the last time he bought milk at the store? Do you think he knows how much a liter of milk costs? But he knows how much gas costs on the world market, that’s understandable, this is his business, and what do we need? We do not sell gas, but we buy milk. He sees this world only through the tinted glass of a member of the cart. Communicates with specially selected representatives of the intelligentsia and the working class. And he reads the reports, well, they prepare him all kinds of memos. And what do they write in them? 12 years, a person lives not so much in another country, but on another planet.

              He even drove through the empty streets to inauguration.
              1. voffchik7691
                voffchik7691 25 December 2013 21: 36
                0
                So the whole country clung to the TV screens, eager to see this inauguration, and the streets were empty!
            2. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 25 December 2013 21: 33
              +7
              Remember how he bought publicly ice cream. No, of course he’s a man, he could just take it, but he bought it ... for 500 rubles! Here is a confirmation to you that he lives in another world!
              By the way, who can explain why we sell electric energy abroad for 1 rupee, and ordinary citizens pay about 3 ?!
              And remember, we have been told for 20 years: here we will bring domestic prices to the international level, and more and more NOR !!! As a result, this level is already far behind, and we are told - TARIFFS WILL GROW AND ONLY!
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          3. Asgard
            Asgard 25 December 2013 09: 48
            +17
            SEREZH THIS REPEATS FROM MEETING TO MEETING ...
            Look, wait, he was forbidden to write anything)))))
            Nobody exposed anything and there are pictures in high resolution (digital)) and if YOU can NOT DISARM, then you know how overlay and substitution can be seen in the "digital". And write specifically, WHO DISCOVERED? WHEN? DO YOU HAVE ORIGINAL PHOTOS?
            I have)))))
            And will I really use Photoshop for DEBILY photos so that someone HERE SPEAKED HERE to me)))))
            And besides the photos, there is the degradation of industry, the mantras about housing and communal services, the fight against corruption, poverty, modernization-innovation, "Skolkovo", BILLION investments OUTSIDE PRODUCTION FACILITIES, where you can do nothing ...
            And in production, DO NOT CONTRIBUTE- everything is stolen (gender pretext))))

            And Sergei believes the mantras from the TV)))))Putin will go down in history precisely with such speeches; this is far from Fulton's Speech)))))
            This is also already "Seryozha" exposed ????????????

            1. Boris55
              Boris55 25 December 2013 14: 12
              0
              Quote: Asgard
              ... mantras about utilities ...

              Putin has already gotten the same thing. The last Chinese warning was yesterday ...

              1. Garrin
                Garrin 25 December 2013 19: 00
                +4
                Quote: Boris55

                Putin has already gotten the same thing. The last Chinese warning was yesterday ...

                And then what? Once again he will scold and make the next castling within the government?
                1. invisibility
                  invisibility 25 December 2013 22: 37
                  0
                  Sweet will hide
              2. alone
                alone 25 December 2013 22: 26
                +2
                what I recall something like a warning. But what's the use?
            2. saber1357
              saber1357 25 December 2013 23: 57
              -3
              Well, what a mournful whining, just like on a famous radio ... Is there a positive program? Not? Well, then we don’t need to stupidly stupid pictures and videos.
          4. Ivan.
            Ivan. 25 December 2013 21: 00
            +2
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            do not repeat other people's nonsense. Or at least try to verify the information ..

            Sergei I do not care if it is true or not, since it does not change anything, especially since he has a good memory. But now I looked and declare from my own experience that if I wrote my palm would lie on the table and if I scribbled as in the photo I would also hang in the air and in the same position.
        2. Encoder
          Encoder 25 December 2013 08: 51
          +6
          And the highest power is not sitting in this office at all.
        3. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 25 December 2013 09: 00
          +7
          Russia's accession to the World Trade Organization, which was aggressively lobbied by the same financial circles, turned into a massive closure of enterprises


          What enterprises were closed due to accession to the WTO? or the author will again start rubbing about 600 of thousands of IPs that didn’t get additional 1200 per month? The question is, why during the 2008 year of the year, so many were not closed as from additional 1200 per month?

          The article is strange, zero facts, some emotions. Or this is enchanting:
          The central bank, headed by Elvira Nabiullina, another bright representative of the same “team of professionals”, began to clean up medium-sized banks, primarily regional ones.

          That is, before the "laundresses" worked and did not bother anyone to take the grandmother anywhere, now the shops are covered, and the author does not like this, although one of the problems of the article is "capital outflow". The thought of the customer of this article creeps in, as Antonov once ordered the Superjet media outlets.

          In general, the article was written by the same liberal about liberals, and in the article only throwing poop and no suggestions.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 25 December 2013 10: 39
            +6
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            written by the same liberal about liberals, and in the article only throwing poop and no suggestions.

            - How many liberals have disappeared in Russia? The liberal sits on the liberal and drives the liberal! But you are right - plus you. Anyone who wants to can read this Master-Bank, the information is readily available. It remains only to be puzzled - has the Central Bank only now reached this very dirty "laundry"? Have you seen it point-blank before? Only when Nabiullina did they see?
            By the way, I do not consider Nabiullina a liberal. A woman of good appearance, a good economist and decent bitch with pleasant manners. All that is missing is a background with a burning hut and a galloping horse. Well, when she will run for the post instead of Putin, you need to suggest the main topic of Pi-Ar action. And she is an economist by any means good, not a match for Kudrin, in vain on her so in the subject.
          2. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 25 December 2013 12: 05
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            In general, the article was written by the same liberal about liberals, and in the article only throwing poop and no suggestions.


            So they are taught only this (throw poop), they (liberals) are not capable of more.
          3. carver
            carver 25 December 2013 14: 03
            +2
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Russia's accession to the World Trade Organization, which was aggressively lobbied by the same financial circles, turned into a massive closure of enterprises


            What enterprises were closed due to accession to the WTO? or the author will again start rubbing about 600 of thousands of IPs that didn’t get additional 1200 per month? The question is, why during the 2008 year of the year, so many were not closed as from additional 1200 per month?

            The article is strange, zero facts, some emotions. Or this is enchanting:
            The central bank, headed by Elvira Nabiullina, another bright representative of the same “team of professionals”, began to clean up medium-sized banks, primarily regional ones.

            That is, before the "laundresses" worked and did not bother anyone to take the grandmother anywhere, now the shops are covered, and the author does not like this, although one of the problems of the article is "capital outflow". The thought of the customer of this article creeps in, as Antonov once ordered the Superjet media outlets.

            In general, the article was written by the same liberal about liberals, and in the article only throwing poop and no suggestions.


            The same opinion about the article.
          4. Stanislas
            Stanislas 26 December 2013 00: 10
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            no suggestions

            The dismissal of the cabinet and the competition for projects to develop the banking system of the Russian Federation, let the liberals also work from the market, maybe one of them will be taken to a new team.
        4. aksakal
          aksakal 25 December 2013 10: 31
          -3
          Quote: Asgard
          Do not hope, and m m and t and c and I, Putinism, We are rolling into the abyss.
          - asgard, speak for yourself. If you are rolling into the abyss, say so, "no need to" stick "! You are a person, not some kind of cattle laughing Although I don’t know what your opinion about yourself is there laughing For me, Putinism is better than asgardism. Under Putin, there are at least some foreign policy successes against the background of modest domestic economic ones, while under the Asgard regime there will be no success at all, only nagging, crying, a real cactastrophy and complete provincialism, interspersed with a pronounced mental limitation. A favorable picture.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 25 December 2013 18: 38
            +1
            Kurbshchyna is better than the kingdom of Ivan Vasilievich. How can you compare ice cream with eclair if you have never eaten them?
            So you are better off than Gorbachev than Brezhnev. The labeled one had such successes in the world, Nobel laureate as Saray Obama. I hope all your idols will die animals.
            1. kush62
              kush62 26 December 2013 04: 32
              -1
              Tagged had such success in the world

              Gorby had successes in the world for the good and joy of our "partners".
              Putin's successes in the world are approved domestically (although some have gritted teeth because of this).
          2. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 25 December 2013 21: 50
            +5
            amid modest domestic economic

            What do you mean by domestic economic success? The fact that in percentage terms a Russian pays more than a European for utilities and other things, is it that prices are rising every day?
            What they said - the state will make a major overhaul of the housing stock, and then hand it over to private owners, as a result they have not done anything, and from next year all but the graph for repairs and maintenance (which again no one does!) Will also receive overhaul!
            Do not be shy, it's just FANTASTIC INTERNAL ECONOMIC SUCCESS !!!
          3. saber1357
            saber1357 25 December 2013 23: 59
            +1
            And what kind of ... interesting, the author of this one of the few normal comments minuses put? Echoradio probably does not sleep, puts cons through its zombies. ABOUT SCULPTURE - I fully agree
        5. Airman
          Airman 25 December 2013 12: 13
          +5
          Quote: Asgard
          And the supreme authority, at meetings and state councils, takes everything in pencil and writes, peeeeeeet, peepeeeeee .....
          Like, with a smart look, wow, how will I write it down, because I am a "patriot" and "great President" of the country)))) and I am writing a course on recovery ... wow, how can I write it down))))
          It is engaged in imitation of activity, and only reptiloid or zombie can write like that ....
          And that with such scribbles you can improve things in the economy, conduct a competent foreign and domestic policy ....

          Do not hope, and m m and t and c and I, Putinism, We are rolling into the abyss.


          Vladimir, I completely agree with you, there are stenographers for the record. You + and become a marshal.
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        8. Power
          Power 25 December 2013 16: 10
          +1
          Putin is Dr. Mengele engaged in Russian euthanasia
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 25 December 2013 18: 52
            0
            I wanted to talk with a smart person, but as I read the name, I realized that you need to rename yourself Jack Suram, everyone’s spear between his legs, etc.
        9. ele1285
          ele1285 25 December 2013 17: 53
          +3
          Quote: Asgard


          Do not hope, and m m and t and c and I, Putinism, We are rolling into the abyss.

          Smart man, but offer your own, maybe the people will stretch. And write in sput-net, but on a site where 80% shout - "Glory to VVP", he defeated everyone, we rise, and a little more and we will shout not on our knees, but proudly, standing, when those who have us stand on a chair.
          At least someone will offer something for the real revival of our country?
          Or we’ll comment on any crap like
          Albats unsuccessfully felt for Khodorkovsky on separatism and attitudes towards Putin.
          Yes, vomit in the face of Albats, one clown is enough for us, let the rest be fed impudently Saxons somewhere in Greenland
          Tired of verbiage about GDP and what a bad cabinet, we are alone good and just sit and write and not one change
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 25 December 2013 21: 38
            +6
            Quote: ele1285
            At least someone will offer something for the real revival of our country?

            So we offer already. Nationalization of mineral resources, energy and roads.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 25 December 2013 21: 47
              +3
              Quote: Garrin
              Nationalization of mineral resources, energy and roads.
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 25 December 2013 21: 55
              +2
              It’s easier to nationalize the people. And quickly and cheaply.
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 25 December 2013 22: 01
                +5
                Quote: ele1285
                It’s easier to nationalize the people. And quickly and cheaply.

                So we have long been. You have not felt? Then we go to you.
              2. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 25 December 2013 22: 21
                +3
                Quote: ele1285
                It’s easier to nationalize the people. And quickly and cheaply.

                There is a meeting in the Duma. The deputy goes to the podium:
                - "So, have we raised our salaries?" - There is noise in the hall, nods in agreement.
                - "Have you updated your car park?" - More noise, nods.
                - "Have you solved the housing issues?" - All again agree.
                - "Well, I think it's time to think about the people"
                A voice from the audience: - "Perhaps you are right: I think that for the first time 200-300 showers will be enough"
          2. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 05
            +2
            Prohibit the export of dough over a hill. Want to invest in business? Invest in domestic production!
            Do not agree?
            1. alone
              alone 25 December 2013 22: 29
              +2
              Quote: voffchik7691
              Prohibit the export of dough over a hill. Want to invest in business? Invest in domestic production!
              Do not agree?


              And who forbids it? Think those who withdraw capital over the hill, put a ban on their own?))
        10. Garrin
          Garrin 25 December 2013 21: 10
          +3
          Quote: Asgard
          Do not hope, and m m and t and c and I, Putinism, We are rolling into the abyss.

          First of all, CONGRATULATIONS !!!
          Secondly, I fully share your opinion.
        11. invisibility
          invisibility 25 December 2013 22: 42
          -1
          So this is Putin’s plan!
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 25 December 2013 10: 22
        +7
        And the "higher power" under the alcoholic EBN adopted the Constitution and the law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation such that money should not get into the economy by definition, only the siphoning of resources, in order to change this situation, it is necessary to change the Constitution and the law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, only these two points can simultaneously increase the budget by at least two. at the same time, this soul mate can be completely directed to financing import substitution, which will give from 5-8% of annual GDP growth.
        But, this law and the Constitution were not written personally by CIA personnel, but also by "advisers" of the Chubais and Gaidars, so that it would work for the good of the country.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 25 December 2013 14: 10
          +5
          Quote: Andrey57
          it is necessary to change the Constitution and the law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, only two of these points can simultaneously increase the budget by at least two
          At the same time, the GDP will at least double. laughing

          But the trouble is that it will grow only in rubles, the volume of production will remain the same, and its further growth, as before, will be caused by rising prices and increased consumption of energy by Western countries.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 25 December 2013 19: 26
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet


            But the trouble is that it will grow only in rubles, the volume of production will remain the same, and its further growth, as before, will be caused by rising prices and increased consumption of energy by Western countries.

            I remember in my childhood there was such a cartoon about Mowgli, the Yarosvet's Squeak reminds me of Nagyna's hiss.
            At some children's writer, about Maugi, it was written that the West and the East will never converge.
            And someone asked the East, do you need this fucking west?
            You are just a member of an NGO.
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            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 25 December 2013 20: 54
              +5
              Quote: ele1285
              You are just a member of an NGO.

              Where can I ask for payment?
              And then I write from the bottom of my heart, so to speak, but it turns out that I work wink
              1. ele1285
                ele1285 25 December 2013 21: 49
                -1
                Sorry, I was late with the answer. Try to contact the cashier for payment; if you do not give a fee, contact the accounting department or the labor dispute inspection.
                Best regards
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 25 December 2013 22: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: ele1285
                  Sorry, I was late with the answer. Try to contact the cashier for payment; if you do not give a fee, contact the accounting department or the labor dispute inspection.

                  Damn - and then the bureaucracy!
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 26 December 2013 07: 17
                0
                Where can I ask for payment?
                And then I write from the bottom of my heart, so to speak, but it turns out that I work


                It's like that blonde who raised stobaks :).
        2. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 07
          0
          But, this law and the Constitution were not written personally by CIA personnel, but also by "advisers" of the Chubais and Gaidars, so that it would work for the good of the country.
          A small correction - this works for the good of the country where the advisers came from !!!
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 25 December 2013 22: 31
            +3
            Quote: voffchik7691
            But, not for this, this law and the Constitution were written personally by CIA personnel, but concurrently by "advisers" to the Chubais and Gaidars, so that it would work for the good of the country

            I bet that you can neither confirm your words with documents, nor name 3 articles of the Constitution that would be written not in the interests of citizens of the Russian Federation?
      3. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 December 2013 21: 23
        +3
        But the withdrawal of large business in offshore, i.e. full tax evasion when finding the business itself and its enterprises in Russia, i.e., also illegal business, are not prosecuted.

        Everything is extremely simple: you look who sits (it sits) in a thought. Do you really think that they will adopt at least one law against themselves ?!
        A man comes to get a job, and they tell him we have a gray salary, he is satisfied with the work, no - get out! The family needs to be fed, he agrees. He comes home, and in the evening he speaks on TV Garant and says it is necessary to punish those who receive a gray salary. Notice those who pay the gray salary, but those who receive!
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 26 December 2013 07: 20
          0
          So those who pay have long been punished. Do not know?
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    3. Encoder
      Encoder 25 December 2013 08: 49
      +7
      This is what we need. But they don’t have to. Their goals do not coincide with ours.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 25 December 2013 10: 26
        +10
        Quote: Coder
        But they don’t have to. Their goals do not coincide with ours.

        Very accurate conclusion!
        As for the article, I advise those who are interested to read A.Parshev's book "Why Russia is not America" ​​In my opinion, there is no better description of the economic situation in our country.
        After reading this material, it’s unlikely that you’ll get brain phrases like
        "In other words, money first goes abroad, then comes back here, because there is no other application for it." fool
        1. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 19
          -1
          "In other words, money first goes abroad, then comes back here, because there is no other application for it."

          In my opinion this money has many applications - to buy a private plane, a yacht, a Ferrari, a villa on the Cote d'Azur of France.
          By the way, recently injured by robbers, in his villa on the Cote d'Azur of France, one Russian governor found an application for this money!
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        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 25 December 2013 10: 42
          +5
          Here is an abandoned confectionery factory in Kaliningrad
          http://monk.com.ua/interesting_and_incredibly/2013/12/24/zabroshennaya-konditers
          kaya-fabrika-v-kaliningrade-40-foto.html
          but today's news:
          ITAR-TASS / Sergey Karpov

          MOSCOW, December 25. / ITAR-TASS /. More than 100 Russian higher education institutions have been excluded from the register of licenses since September this year, in 2014 all universities with signs of inefficiency will be checked, said the head of Rosobrnadzor Sergey Kravtsov.

          Ministry of Education and Science recommends reorganizing up to 80% of branches of Russian universities

          According to the official, "the systematic work of Rosobrnadzor, as well as the results of monitoring the effectiveness of universities," which started in August this year, had a certain influence on this result.

          "Although the monitoring criteria and inspection criteria of Rosobrnadzor differ from each other, most of the universities and branches that had their licenses revoked showed signs of inefficiency back in 2012," Kravtsov said in an interview with the Izvestia newspaper.

          But trade and religious centers are multiplying!
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 25 December 2013 14: 15
            +11
            Quote: S_mirnov
            More than 100 Russian higher education institutions have been excluded from the register of licenses since September this year, in 2014 all universities with signs of inefficiency will be checked, said the head of Rosobrnadzor Sergey Kravtsov.


            It’s high time to close pseudo-educational shops that let out unnecessary managers for money. The so-called commercial universities have spread like dirt, and students are confusing Ukraine and Mongolia. With permission, universities do not teach, they are essentially selling diplomas.
            Quote: S_mirnov
            But trade and religious centers are multiplying!

            Where the graduates of such universities work. When the authorities are really trying to fight pseudo-education, all the criminals immediately appear with shouts of Putin, spreading rot on education and science. Where do professionals come from such universities? Moreover, all our "professionals" are exclusively in the liberal gadyushnik called the HSE. Not a single concept developed by them ever worked. The "affordable housing" project, the reform of housing and communal services or health care - all projects in the development of which the Jewish sages from the Higher School of Economics took an active part - they all simply failed. EVERYTHING TO ONE. The same experts substantiated the need to curtail maternity capital. What can we talk about here?
            And to blame the authorities for trying timidly with an eye on the same liberal public to put things in order here, this means pouring water on the mill of pseudo-revolutionaries dreaming of Perestroika-2 in Russia.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 25 December 2013 16: 13
              +7
              Quote: Ascetic
              And to blame the authorities for trying timidly with an eye on the same liberal public to put things in order here, this means pouring water on the mill of pseudo-revolutionaries dreaming of Perestroika-2 in Russia

              Well, we have not finished Perestroika 1 yet, we are still selling the Soviet legacy. And you’re already scaring the second!
              "President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced large-scale privatization in the next three years. Privatization will make the Russian economy much more competitive and efficient ..."



              Quote: Ascetic
              It's time to close the pseudo-educational shops letting out unnecessary managers for money.

              Some inefficient universities, the list is here.
              http://www.mr7.ru/articles/62458/
              Ekaterinburg State Theater Institute
              Nizhny Tagil State Social and Pedagogical Academy
              Magnitogorsk State University
              Ural State University of Physical Culture
              Chelyabinsk State Agroengineering Academy
              Chelyabinsk State Pedagogical University
              Bryansk State Academy of Engineering and Technology
              Bryansk State University named after academician I.G. Petrovsky
              Borisoglebsk State Pedagogical Institute
              Voronezh State Forestry Engineering Academy
              Voronezh State Agrarian University named after Emperor Peter I
              Voronezh State Institute of Physical Culture
              Voronezh State Pedagogical University
              Ivanovo State Agricultural Academy named after academician D.K. Belyaev
              Kostroma State Technological University
              Kostroma State University named after N.A. Nekrasov
              Kostroma State Agricultural Academy
              Ryazan State Agrotechnological University named after P.A. Kostychev
              Ryazan State University named after S.A. Yesenin
              ... there are many more No. is it in agricultural academies according to your managers are preparing?
              Even in my city, the Artillery University was destroyed (this is already another department, of course), the material base was destroyed.
              1. QWERTY
                QWERTY 25 December 2013 17: 15
                +2
                There is such a Velikiye Luki agricultural academy .... They don’t want to take graduates from this institution even in Velikiye Luki themselves. Does this mean anything? And they train just all kinds of managers there, since the agricultural field of education is not popular now, especially in depressed Skobaristan. It’s not that I defend the closure of universities, but it’s very likely that these are shops ... Nobody closes, for example St. Petersburg State University, LETI, Voenmekh, or the same PSUPS in which I studied?
              2. voffchik7691
                voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 37
                +2
                That's right, MVTU and MSU will soon close up, and in return they will open the Sunday church parish schools! So education will develop !!!
                Serdyukov almost destroyed a military education and what was punished? Not! So think about why they need education reforms and what they are trying to make of our children!
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 25 December 2013 16: 52
              +4
              Quote: Ascetic
              And to blame the authorities for trying timidly with an eye on the same liberal public to put things in order here, this means pouring water on the mill of pseudo-revolutionaries dreaming of Perestroika-2 in Russia.

              And I would also like to say that the authorities need not look back at the liberal public, but specifically look at the people of the Russian Federation and protect their interests !!!
              And then how is the government going to "restore order" if its entire vertical is affected by corruption? This will not be order at all ... For any movement of a corrupt government harms the country, a priori, even if the intentions are the best, outwardly ...
            3. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 32
              +1
              On the first point, I completely agree - such universities must be closed!
              But I don’t agree on the second - when the Minister of Education said (has not yet been denied) that Russia does not need so many people with higher education, is that about putting things in order?
              This is only a desire to grow a dumb obedient herd, to whom what nonsense do not say everything will be accepted with a bang.
              There are not enough literate people in the country, it is necessary to open LIKBEZ courses. Have already arrived, Moscow State University is losing its reputation in the world.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 26 December 2013 01: 33
                +2
                Quote: voffchik7691
                Russia does not need so many people with higher education, is that about restoring order? This is only a desire to grow a dumb obedient herd, to whom what nonsense do not say, everything will be accepted with a bang

                There are probably so many people with a diploma of "higher" education, bought for money - a herd. Is it obedient? We went to listen, some less often, others more often, which the lecturers who had bought their diplomas earlier, and then dissertations, keep hearing. Some students read a couple of books for the entire study, there are those who have not read a single one; there are also enough teachers who have mastered 5-6 books (but there are also those who limited themselves to two student books, and they give lectures on them, and the rest is life experience). They do not need to be specially grown, they already exist: illiterate lawyers, economists, managers, psychologists, teachers, ... "what nonsense do not say, he will take it with a bang," but who gave the highest crust, and who gave the highest. Now we need to separate the lambs from the goats and close this circus with the issuance of diplomas and dissertations, that is, put things in order. But more often in the field, goats are engaged in this, so no one knows for sure how the matter will end.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 26 December 2013 07: 23
                0
                That is, do you think that a college graduate is a dumb obedient animal? Do not tell me where you can be found, otherwise a couple of groups where I teach classes will really want to discuss this topic with you :).
    5. lapo32
      lapo32 25 December 2013 11: 03
      +2
      But it does not exist, it depends on the real consumption of you and me, and we are already saturated, therefore the team of "PROFESSIONALS" needs to sell us unnecessary, all sorts of gadgets. loans, facebook
    6. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 25 December 2013 11: 33
      -2
      Everything you have given is correct and true, but it raises doubts about the so-called. the "professionalism" of a handful of parasites who seized the financial management of Russia. Their professionalism was once expressed by the "tagged" one: "... the economy must be economical," I will add on my own; the water is wet and the oil is oily. The article is correct and necessary to answer the age-old Russian questions: “What is happening? Who is to blame? And What to do?” It’s simpler to drive these “professionals” from the trough with a nasty broom, which, judging by the squeals, is starting to make GDP, but I would like sharper!
      1. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 40
        0
        So I say - Serdyukov drove away with all his harem and their kilograms of jewelry!
      2. yur
        yur 26 December 2013 00: 18
        +2
        "The economy must be economical" - this is the slogan of the Brezhnev era.
        1. kartalovkolya
          kartalovkolya 28 December 2013 10: 12
          0
          I beg your pardon for the slip, but these are the words of the unforgettable Leonid Brezhnev, but after all, all the "great" reformers were raised in those days by the party or the Komsomol. So, as they say: "... the same eggs, but a side view." for the truth, why minus? That I am wrong, that this pack should be driven away for a long time with a nasty broom or someone does not agree?
  2. Flinky
    Flinky 25 December 2013 07: 31
    +21
    Kudrin to the wall is high time. And put half of the "team of professionals" next to him. Deserved.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 36
      +15
      Quote: Flinky
      Kudrin to the wall is high time

      Oh well, but Putin doesn’t want to publicize him at all. I was given a good debt, so that I wouldn’t die of hunger. WTO, we are joining Putin, he talked about the benefits and an early reduction in prices, but Kudrin is to blame laughing
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 25 December 2013 07: 40
        +4
        Thanks Alexander, did, doubled stopped
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 45
          +2
          Quote: ivshubarin
          doubles stopped

          Not worth it hi
      2. bairat
        bairat 25 December 2013 07: 42
        +10
        Well, Putin is your idol, I personally do not care who he is promoting there. Kudrin undermined the country's economy by pumping money out of the country into foreign funds, the number one task was to contain inflation, he "coped with it."
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 44
          +6
          Quote: bairat
          Kudrin undermined the country's economy by pumping money out of the country into foreign funds, the number one task was to contain inflation, he "coped with it."

          He probably traveled on his own in a quiet place. wink
          1. bairat
            bairat 25 December 2013 07: 51
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            He probably rode on his own in the quiet wink

            No, not quiet. He, as a minister, has certain powers, he is in the "topic", he can convince others to make some decisions. The question is different: why did he not pay attention to the dying economy, unknowingly acted or had an interest?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 55
              +8
              Quote: bairat
              The question is different: why did he not pay attention to the bending economy, acted out of ignorance or had interest?

              I’m not interested in delving into someone else’s shit, who doesn’t really like how and why. I look at the results. Medvedev Kudrina dismisses, and Putin drags him to his press conference to talk with people, it's cool yes wink
              And change or update your browser in the end, you have replays in every comment.
              1. bairat
                bairat 25 December 2013 08: 02
                +3
                Why is this "suddenly" not interesting to you? Slippery topic? It seems that you yourself have not completely decided on your attitude to Kudrin: like a bastard, but a friend of Putin, why is it not clear to say at the same time lol
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                And change or update your browser in the end, you have replays in every comment.

                and I won’t think it’s not my problem.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 08: 09
                  +7
                  Quote: bairat
                  It seems you yourself have not completely decided on your attitude to Kudrin: it’s like a bastard, but Putin’s friend, it’s not clear what to say

                  I decided a long time ago who Kudrin is and who are his friends. Only we have decided to blame Kudrin, and Putin is not here to do business. Vinovat Medvedev, Putin is not guilty. He will soon come to insanity.
                  Quote: bairat
                  and I won’t think it’s not my problem.

                  Hear dear, this is your problem, not Sait! They asked you humanly, so do it, not a ham.
                  1. bairat
                    bairat 25 December 2013 08: 20
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I decided a long time ago who Kudrin is and who are his friends. Only we have decided to blame Kudrin, and Putin is not here to do business. Vinovat Medvedev, Putin is not guilty. He will soon come to insanity.

                    Well, you say so bluntly - Putin is to blame. When Serdyukov is condemned in topics, you also say that Putin is to blame, no? You decide on your position, or else you go around in circles, muttering the topic.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Hear dear, this is your problem, not Sait! They asked you humanly, so do it, not a ham.

                    Why should I change my browser due to problems of one site, I visit a dozen of such resources, and there are no problems anywhere else. What is rudeness then?
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 08: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: bairat

                      Well, you say so bluntly - Putin is to blame. When Serdyukov is condemned in topics, you also say that Putin is to blame, no?

                      And then I don’t say this.
                      Quote: bairat

                      Why should I change my browser due to problems with one site

                      I told you clearly, there are no problems on the site !!! Problems from your side. You delete your comments, but I see everything deleted and not only yours. You see 200 comments on the page, and I 400 and the pages begin to depend on repetitions. Change or update !!!
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                  3. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 25 December 2013 08: 50
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Kudrin is to blame, and Putin is out of business. Guilty Medvedev, Putin is not guilty.



                    Hi Sasha. hi Live and remember “Putin's plan is Russia's victory!” - and everything is in place: the plan, and Putin, and the victory, and Russia.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 09: 50
                      +4
                      Quote: Vadivak
                      “Putin's plan is Russia's victory

                      Hi Vadim! The question is what kind of PLAN we are talking about, like we are fighting drugs, but here’s some kind of plan lol
                      1. alone
                        alone 25 December 2013 22: 33
                        0
                        laughing laughing

                        If you have a plan, then you need to score it in White Sea Dog and finish it off !! wassat
                      2. kartalovkolya
                        kartalovkolya 27 December 2013 11: 57
                        0
                        There is a plan! And also marijuana and gerych in full, and also "wheels" and "synthetics" in indescribable volumes. And what does he smoke? And before they said that vodka is a national product, they were completely misled.
                    2. Airman
                      Airman 25 December 2013 14: 02
                      +3
                      Quote: Vadivak



                      Live and remember “Putin's plan is Russia's victory!” .


                      "Putin's plan is Russia's trouble!"
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              3. Encoder
                Encoder 25 December 2013 09: 02
                0
                And there exactly someone was dragged to this press conference?
            2. Encoder
              Encoder 25 December 2013 09: 00
              0
              The order had. And whose, everyone decides for himself.
            3. Kolya
              Kolya 25 December 2013 09: 21
              0
              Kudrin reminds me of gossip: the more they talk about him, the more influence he has.
            4. mirag2
              mirag2 25 December 2013 09: 48
              +2
              I had an interest. Anyone would have acted not out of ignorance, but since he considered it necessary.
              Kudrin the bastard did not consider it necessary for us to manufacture and develop the shipyard roads, but to pump foreign currency with our goods (oil).
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          3. Encoder
            Encoder 25 December 2013 08: 58
            +1
            Somehow you greatly exaggerate the possibilities of all of them. No one here does anything on their own. Nobody, even you write the thoughts that you were forced upon. And even when I write to you this one also thinks, and why I do this and cannot find an answer.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 09: 52
              0
              Quote: Coder
              No one here does anything on their own. Nobody, even you write the thoughts that you were forced upon. And even when I write to you this one also thinks, and why I do this and cannot find an answer.

              Dear, quit smoking plan, go to vodka laughing
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      4. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 December 2013 22: 45
        +1
        Hilaya Clitor has mentioned the benefits of Russia's WTO accession - congratulations, now the United States will be able to deliver even more of its products to your market! And Lavrov stood nearby and nodded his head!
        Well, Kudrin is the best Minister of Finance of Russia from the United States! He kept all the money there, and not a penny on the development of production in Russia.
    2. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 07: 52
      +2
      Please note that Kudrin’s GDP and Co. already wanted to put to that wall. Only here is bad luck, 2008, Russia survived only thanks to the Stabilization Fund, which Kudrin alone built and built. When it dawned on WHAT exactly happened and what he did, some people tried to wipe it out with Siluyanov’s help, others forced him to work. Although, after that persecution, I would have been offended strongly in his place.
      VERY BIG REQUEST FOR EVERYONE !!! Do not confuse economics and finance. These are two completely different areas.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 25 December 2013 08: 04
        +18
        That's interesting. And did this "notorious" stabilization fund really help us? Where did the money go from him? To subsidize natural monopolies and to "save" the banking system. At the same time, a significant part of them settled in the form of "bonuses" in the pockets of the owners and top management of these systems.
        We were told that the saved banking system must "bring" the allocated money to production through "loans". But first, in 2008-2009 it was VERY difficult to get loans, especially long-term loans. Secondly. WHY money should be brought to the manufacturer through banks and at interest? Wouldn't it be easier to bring them through the state order to the manufacturer, and the manufacturer will still transfer them to the banking system during settlements? It is just that the bankers will not be able to put anything in their pockets.
        It's the same with monopolies. Instead of stimulating the consumption of their products, they were simply compensated for the "lost income". Although the "crisis" of 2008 was an excellent reason to develop domestic consumption and move away from export dependence.

        As a result, we can say that the "stabilization fund" was not saving the country, but the oligarchs.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 25 December 2013 08: 54
          +8
          Quote: alicante11
          Where did the money go from him?

          Indeed, how many new power plants were built from start to finish during the Yeltsin-Putin years? Complex calculations need not be done: not a single one.
          1. Fin
            Fin 25 December 2013 11: 30
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            Indeed, how many new power plants were built from start to finish during the Yeltsin-Putin years? Complex calculations need not be done: not a single one.

            And why build from scratch, if you can increase capacity, the possibilities are not exhausted. Energy does not stand still. New power units are regularly commissioned. 2013 - Troitskaya State District Power Station, Novomoskovskaya State District Power Station, Omsk State District Power Plant, Novomoskovskaya State District Power Station, Novokuybyshevskaya State District Power Station-1, 2 units of the Ust-Srednekamsk State District Power Station. In 2014-2015, they will launch units at Novovoronezh, Beloyarskaya, Leningradskaya-2, and Rostov NPPs. This search engine has issued recently.
            1. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 06
              +2
              Here is also interesting: the plants are standing, therefore they do not consume electric energy. New power units are commissioned, and why, then, does the price of electric energy rise for the people? It seems like overproduction on the face? Or do you want to say that a microwave, washing machine, etc. together consume more than enterprises?
        2. bairat
          bairat 25 December 2013 09: 09
          +5
          Quote: alicante11
          and to "save" the banking system.

          I don’t understand why they had to save her. Are they producing some kind of extraordinary product? And their owners are not Russian surnames. Compare the rates on loans with us and "there", this is just a robbery under the beautiful banner of "the national banking system".
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 25 December 2013 14: 33
            +6
            Quote: bairat
            Quote: alicante11
            and to "save" the banking system.

            I don’t understand why save her.
            Hello - we arrived ... laughing

            This is elementary
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 26 December 2013 06: 01
              0
              Actually, the issue was economic feasibility, if not clear. In principle, we know where our relatives are sitting.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 26 December 2013 09: 55
                0
                Quote: alicante11
                In principle, we know where our relatives are sitting.

                Is it not economically feasible to give dough to one? smile
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        4. Encoder
          Encoder 25 December 2013 10: 31
          +3
          Not badly said. I just think that in any case, these will not drown. It’s noticeable what kind of thing, whether it’s a crisis or whether bankers will always raise money for everything. Even if a bank goes bankrupt, depositors, not bankers, will suffer. They withdraw their money in advance, and a bit of it is usually there. And in this case it was only about how much they earn or a lot on this crisis. It turned out - very much.
        5. Yura
          Yura 25 December 2013 13: 59
          +1
          Quote: alicante11
          We were told that the saved banking system must "bring" the allocated money to production through "loans". But first, in 2008-2009 it was VERY difficult to get loans, especially long-term loans. Secondly. WHY money should be brought to the manufacturer through banks and at interest? Wouldn't it be easier to bring them through the state order to the manufacturer, and the manufacturer will still transfer them to the banking system during settlements? It is just that the bankers will not be able to put anything in their pockets.

          When all this happened and our president voiced and motivated these actions, I was perplexed, thinking that our government gave the right to work to these banks, thereby taking responsibility for their work and failures, in particular, for the financial crisis in the state, by and large the state is also responsible or, say, our government in its person. Further, our government begins to stimulate banks with money, so that they could continue to lend to the producer and consumer so that they already have loans from banks and all this against the background of a rather sharp drop in demand. This did not help the economy much for banks. It was neither simpler nor fairer to buy out loans from banks to producers and households (of course, with working out the situation when clients can still pay back loans or not) with deferred payments until the situation improves. Two birds with one stone would have been killed: the first banks would work on their own and not taken at interest from the state, the second producer could continue to work, and the population could continue to satisfy demand at the expense of the last money that went to repay loans (this is about those who went bankrupt, lost his job as a result of this crisis). By the way, the state in that situation could buy out loans a little cheaper than they actually cost, and then, taking into account each specific obligation and the real financial situation of the debtor, but already to the state to appoint the start of loan payments.
          1. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 15
            +2
            The state could ...
            If this is a normal state, and not a state in which bandits seized power.
        6. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 25 December 2013 14: 30
          +7
          Quote: alicante11
          That's interesting. And did this "notorious" stabilization fund really help us?
          So he helped us - he helped them - "To subsidize natural monopolies and to" save "the banking system. At the same time, a significant part of them settled in the form of" bonuses "in the pockets of the owners and top management of these systems - for this it was created.

          As a result, we can say that the "stabilization fund" was not saving the country, but the oligarchs.
          Isn't it obvious?

          1. alicante11
            alicante11 26 December 2013 06: 12
            +1
            As a result, we can say that the "stabilization fund" was not saving the country, but the oligarchs. Isn't it obvious?


            It’s obvious to me. I always speak of an oligarchic state. But I don’t support your demotivators. Since I believe that the best weapon against the noodles that this state hangs for us is the truth, and not noodles on the other hand.

            It is foolish to deny the positive aspects in the work of the state and only helps this inefficient state to survive, since the reaction to the lie is the denial and defense of the slandered. What do you and your swamp companions yourself have done nothing for the country, but rather destroyed it in due time. While the oligarchic state has done a lot for the country and for the people. Although far from enough to justify its existence.

            How long can you talk about "foreign accounts". There are few examples of Berezovsky, Litvinenko, in the Netherlands someone was also killed, I don't remember the last name, of the Cyprus dispossession. Well, from the outside there are examples of Mubarak, Gaddafi, Saddam, Milosevic. Few? Oligarchs and officials are thieves, but not idiots. They stole here and will defend their capital here.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 26 December 2013 10: 18
              0
              Quote: alicante11
              Denying the positive aspects in the work of the state is stupid
              Note - you write about aspects, not about trends: I do not deny aspects. But I am aware that these aspects are either accidental coincidences with the interests of the majority, or negativity camouflaged for the interests of the majority, or "throwing a bone" in order to avoid increasing the discontent of the majority.

              What do you and your swamp fellow travelers
              Past

              they themselves did nothing for the country, but on the contrary destroyed it in due time
              Do not you think that you knead everything in one heap?

              While the oligarchic state has done a lot for the country and for the people. Although far from enough to justify its existence
              Enchanting ...
              This is from the series "yes, this option is one of the worst, but it could be even worse"?

              Oligarchs and officials are thieves, but not idiots. They stole here and will defend their capital.
              Yes, you, my friend, is a patriot: for you it turns out there is a difference between someone else’s scum and domestic scum laughing
              You just forget that scum usually manage to come to an agreement with each other, and that they protect "their" capital, first of all, from those whom they had previously robbed.
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 26 December 2013 14: 36
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                Note - you write about aspects, not about trends: I do not deny aspects. But I am aware that these aspects are either accidental coincidences with the interests of the majority, or negativity camouflaged for the interests of the majority, or "throwing a bone" in order to avoid increasing the discontent of the majority.


                You can play with words in different ways. Aspects add up to trends. But I will not quibble, because further you write absolutely correctly.

                Do not you think that you knead everything in one heap?


                May be. But so far it is creating such a feeling.

                Enchanting ...
                This is from the series "yes, this option is one of the worst, but it could be even worse"?


                That's it!

                Yes, you, my friend, is a patriot: for you it turns out there is a difference between someone else's scum and the scum of domestic laughing
                You just forget that scum usually manage to come to an agreement with each other, and that they protect "their" capital, first of all, from those whom they had previously robbed.


                It’s not always possible to agree. Let’s remember Hitler and the Nuggets Saxons. Do not agree.
                Again. I DO NOT PROTECT the oligarchs and their state. I say that at the moment there is no alternative. Hanging demotivators is easy. But from your demotivators, the oligarchs are neither hot nor cold.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 26 December 2013 18: 26
                  0
                  Quote: alicante11
                  It’s not always possible to agree. Let’s remember Hitler and the Nuggets Saxons. Do not agree.
                  And then remember the demise of the USSR.

                  I say that at the moment there is no alternative
                  Alternatives to what? laughing
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 27 December 2013 01: 29
                    0
                    And then remember the demise of the USSR.


                    Well, remember, so what? If the oligarchs wanted to merge Russia, they would have merged it. They do whatever they want.

                    Alternatives to what?


                    Alternatives to this guide.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 27 December 2013 11: 30
                      +1
                      Quote: alicante11
                      If the oligarchs wanted to merge Russia, they would have merged it
                      An enterprise is bankrupt only when bankruptcy is more profitable than its work - still ahead.

                      Alternatives to this guide.
                      That is, the option is one of the worst (it could be worse, but only hypothetically), but there is no alternative? laughing
                      Is it cognitive dissonance?
                      1. alicante11
                        alicante11 27 December 2013 13: 53
                        0
                        An enterprise is bankrupt only when bankruptcy is more profitable than its work - still ahead.


                        Again, I agree. But only in our case, this moment will come in the only case. If our nouveau riche with their cloth snout are accepted into the "Kalash row" of the world oligarchy. Can you imagine Roma Abramovich next to thoroughbred bulldogs like the Rothschilds or Rockefellers? Yes, they would rather let themselves be ruined than sit with him in the same field on the pot.

                        Is it cognitive dissonance?


                        This is reality. Well, I would listen to your suggestions, in principle. Why just caress the language?
                      2. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 27 December 2013 18: 35
                        0
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Do you imagine Roma Abramovich next to thoroughbred bulldogs like the Rothschilds or Rockefellers?
                        It’s not Roma who is likely to act as an offshore ...
                        The time will come - they will agree (although they can start a war game under patriotic slogans)

                        This is reality
                        You already decide - either this is one of the worst options, or the best of the worst.
                        An alternative in the current conditions is anyone whose policy will be more pro-Russian, the same Sue for example.
                      3. alicante11
                        alicante11 28 December 2013 07: 51
                        0
                        It’s not Roma who is likely to act as an offshore ...
                        The time will come - they will agree (although they can start a war game under patriotic slogans)


                        Yes, I brought him like that, the first alphabetically :).
                        But what I’ll agree on and I’m afraid of myself. At the expense of war - they all want to live. And after the nuclear war there will be no winners.

                        You already decide - either this is one of the worst options, or the best of the worst.
                        An alternative in the current conditions is anyone whose policy will be more pro-Russian, the same Sue for example.


                        I said that the best of the worst. At the expense of alternatives, specific strengths and personalities, please. Uncle SJ does not offer. This is one gang with the Family. Pocket Opposition. YES and in general in the Communist Party only the name of the Communist Party remains.
                      4. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 28 December 2013 13: 10
                        0
                        Quote: alicante11
                        And after the nuclear war there will be no winners
                        This, alas, is not a fact, and nuclear war does not have to be at all.

                        Uncle SJ does not offer. This is one gang with the Family. Pocket Opposition. YES and in general in the Communist Party only the name of the Communist Party remains.
                        The opposition is pocketed only until it seizes power.

                        The Communist Party of the Communist Party is certainly not communists, but their program is socially and pro-Russian oriented, and if they begin to squint, they will need to be changed.
                        Now, despite all the shoals, nothing is changing, and this is due to the choice of the lesser of evils - this is schizophrenia.
                      5. alicante11
                        alicante11 29 December 2013 17: 31
                        0
                        This, alas, is not a fact, and nuclear war does not have to be at all.


                        Well, if this is not for you, then what can you talk about?

                        The opposition is pocketed only until it seizes power.


                        Nichrome like that. A pocket pocket dog will always remain as long as you don't feed her.

                        The Communist Party of the Communist Party is certainly not communists, but their program is socially and pro-Russian oriented, and if they begin to squint, they will need to be changed.


                        What a cool money changer you are. At the forum, a lot of mind and courage are not necessary.

                        Now, despite all the shoals, nothing is changing, and this is due to the choice of the lesser of evils - this is schizophrenia.


                        Nobody THIS EVIL, even less - chose. It itself came in return for more. So arrange?
                      6. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 30 December 2013 21: 21
                        0
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Well, if this is not for you, then what can you talk about?
                        Are you a big dock in radiology, or do you have relevant life examples?

                        Nichrome like that. A pocket pocket dog will always remain as long as you don't feed her
                        And this is stated by the comrade, who usually speaks of the independence of the current, once appointed, leadership of the Russian Federation?
                        Maybe you finally stop making antagonistic statements and decide?

                        What a cool money changer you are. The forum balabolit a lot of mind and courage is not necessary
                        How are you different from me?

                        Nobody THIS EVIL, even less - chose. It itself came in return for more. So arrange?
                        And where did you get that in return for more? Did she admit it to you? laughing
                      7. alicante11
                        alicante11 31 December 2013 06: 31
                        0
                        Are you a big dock in radiology, or do you have relevant life examples?


                        Learn the materiel ... There was an article recently at VO what would happen if only India and Packs would explode their arsenals ... Although I believe that it is somewhat exaggerated, the arsenals of the Russian Federation and the USA are not theirs.

                        And this is stated by the comrade, who usually speaks of the independence of the current, once appointed, leadership of the Russian Federation?
                        Maybe you finally stop making antagonistic statements and decide?


                        Not appointed, but came to power as a result of a special operation.

                        How are you different from me?


                        The fact that I'm not talking about a change of leadership. Since I do not see a real chance for this.

                        And where did you get that in return for more? Did she admit it to you?


                        No, it’s just that I can observe and think about what and I wish to learn how to do it.
                      8. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 31 December 2013 15: 17
                        0
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Learn materiel ... There was an article on VO recently
                        Learn materiel articles? wassat

                        Regarding the degree of destruction of the environment, even professionals do not have a clear opinion.
                        But again, the mess does not have to be nuclear.

                        Not appointed, but came to power as a result of a special operation
                        Well, did he carry out this special operation, on the basis of which we can draw a similar conclusion?

                        The fact that I'm not talking about a change of leadership. Since I do not see a real chance for this
                        That is, only because your opinion on this issue is different from mine. For the rest, your statement - "you don't need to talk a lot of intelligence and courage on the forum" - applies to you as much as to me.

                        No, it’s just that I can observe and think about what and I wish to learn how to do it.
                        That is, as it was said in one of the previous comments, it could be worse: at the same time, the fact that your "ability" (to observe and think) could be better refuses to take into account.
                      9. alicante11
                        alicante11 31 December 2013 16: 34
                        0
                        Regarding the degree of destruction of the environment, even professionals do not have a clear opinion.


                        This is probably why the nuclear war never took place. Thank God, experts still have their heads in place and the majority have a common opinion.

                        But again, the mess does not have to be nuclear.


                        Until the first major defeats. And then vigorous loaves will fly.

                        Well, did he carry out this special operation, on the basis of which we can draw a similar conclusion?


                        The oligarchs, the Family, well, it’s clear what remains of the special services during the years of perestroika and devastation. And on what I conclude, you can understand if you carefully read my article.

                        That is, only because your opinion on this issue is different from mine. For the rest, your statement - "you don't need to talk a lot of intelligence and courage on the forum" - applies to you as much as to me.


                        No, I’m just responsible for my words, and you are a dumbbell.

                        That is, as it was said in one of the previous comments, it could be worse: at the same time, the fact that your "ability" (to observe and think) could be better refuses to take into account.


                        Had a dream? Could have been better. If only some of the "Soviet elites" were strangled in time. But history, and even more so today, does not know the subjunctive mood.
                      10. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 1 January 2014 21: 52
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                        Quote: alicante11
                        This is probably why the nuclear war never took place.
                        Maybe - the lack of a clear opinion is also a deterrent.

                        Thank God experts still have their heads in place and most have a common opinion
                        For the majority, this is not a single opinion.

                        Until the first major defeats. And then vigorous loaves will fly
                        Are you one of those who are grabbing a knife in a fight?

                        The oligarchs, the Family, well, it’s clear what remains of the special services during the years of perestroika and devastation. And on what I conclude, you can understand if you carefully read my article
                        I read it, but I don’t understand one hell, because there are no necessary facts in it.
                        Oligarchs and family (it's good that not the State Department) - this is logical, but what is left of the special services ...
                        Logically, what was "left" of the special services was originally supposed to play on the side of the tagged and EBN, destroying the Union and creating what is now called the Russian Federation. Otherwise, neither EBN nor the one marked to their posts would simply not have survived.

                        And in the bottom line, we have a "lesser" evil in the form of a gentleman who is a loyal successor of the EBN business, who consistently develops this business.

                        No, I’m just responsible for my words, and you are a dumbbell
                        This is an argument ...

                        But history, and especially modernity, does not know the subjunctive mood.
                        What does the story have to do with it?
                        There would have been a different power in the government (and it would have been if people like you, Vova, didn’t shout about every occasion and didn’t inflate the norm to the level of great achievement) - there would be different results.
                      11. alicante11
                        alicante11 2 January 2014 18: 06
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                        Maybe - the lack of a clear opinion is also a deterrent.


                        For people in power - definitely - no. Only one hundred percent result.

                        Are you one of those who are grabbing a knife in a fight?


                        I grab the knife right away. or for a gun, which will be the first at hand :). But with fists, it makes no sense, he still won’t understand.

                        I read it, but I don’t understand one hell, because there are no necessary facts in it.


                        Damn, here Putin missed a bit. He flew to Khabarovsk, and I just showed the children a Christmas tree at the airport. I thought I would meet NG with him, squander for life, but missed it, so that they did not grow together with the facts, so please ...

                        And in the bottom line, we have a "lesser" evil in the form of a gentleman who is a loyal successor of the EBN business, who consistently develops this business.


                        Yes, he does not break up nichrome. Just everything that is done is not for the people ...

                        This is an argument ...


                        It is a fact :)

                        There would have been a different power in the government (and it would have been if people like you, Vova, didn’t shout about every occasion and didn’t inflate the norm to the level of great achievement) - there would be different results.


                        If my grandmother had ... oh, she would be a grandfather. However, "Name, brother, name ..." (almost (c). Who is that other power? And WHERE am I shouting VVP "urrya"? Yes, I am much more dangerous for VVP and for its FSB officers and olisharkhs than scoundrels like Because I tell the truth to people, and I do not lie like a podzabornaya dog, which no one will listen to.
  • voffchik7691
    voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 02
    +3
    At the end of 2008, Deripaska turned to the GDP with a request to allocate him $ 4 billion, otherwise he will have to dismiss most of the employees of his enterprises. He received the money, and by the end of the year more than 1000 people were reduced at the Yaroslavl Motor Plant. So everything was rightly saved only by the oligarchs!
  • Edward72
    Edward72 25 December 2013 08: 16
    +8
    Kudrin, Gref and all of this gang to the wall. Personally, my opinion is, since I did not fulfill my duties, dump, but pay how much damage the country did.
  • Encoder
    Encoder 25 December 2013 08: 53
    +4
    Well, half that. The team is one. How to cut it alive?
  • Airman
    Airman 25 December 2013 13: 57
    +4
    Quote: Flinky
    Kudrin to the wall is high time. And put half of the "team of professionals" next to him. Deserved.

    Why only Kudrin? And Chubais, Gaidar (which is Yegor, not Arkady). And why half the team, not ALL?
    1. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 19
      +1
      Egor and EBN have already fled from justice! Moreover, even interpol will not get them from that country! It's a pity!!!
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 25 December 2013 14: 22
    +4
    Quote: Flinky
    Kudrin to the wall is high time.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 25 December 2013 14: 35
      -1
      Quote: Yarosvet (7)

      You can’t believe everything that is written on the border laughing

      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 25 December 2013 16: 20
        +2
        But you believe bully
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        2. Boris55
          Boris55 25 December 2013 18: 14
          -2
          Quote: Yarosvet
          But you believe

          At the beginning of perestroika, when TV was not so biased, it was interesting to watch their comments on the statements of public people. As I remember now, Zyuganov’s speech and three television channels showed each in its own way, one beginning, another middle, third end, and based on these fragments they made completely different conclusions ...
          Well, the fact that someone wrote something about someone is the opinion of the writer, and not about whom (about which) it was written.

          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 25 December 2013 18: 31
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            Quote: Boris55
            one beginning, another middle, third end, and on the basis of these fragments they made completely different conclusions ...
            Therefore, in relation to our topic, conclusions must be drawn based on facts, logic and looking at the relationship of words with deeds.

            Well, the fact that someone wrote something about someone is the opinion of the writer, and not about whom (about which) it was written
            Aren't you tired of playing with words? Review the 12-minute video from the 4th minute - Putin says that Kudrin was recognized as the best, and that he (Putin) confirms that he (Putin) is sure that it was so: that is, Putin believes Kudrina is the best Minister of Finance.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 25 December 2013 19: 48
              -1
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Putin says that Kudrin was recognized as the best, and that he (Putin) confirms this,

              Putin confirms that Kudrin was recognized as the best finance minister by "foreign countries". laughing
              Quote: Yarosvet
              that he (Putin) is sure that it was so: i.e Putin considers Kudrin the best finance minister.

              And so it was - "foreign countries" recognized Kudrin as the best finance minister, and after "... i.e..."you can write whatever you like laughing

              In my opinion, Putin wanted to say that the der'mocrat Kudrin, being a date, did not give money for the development of Russia, the rearmament of the army, for an increase in salaries, pensions ... for which he received praise from the West, already twice ...
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 25 December 2013 20: 34
                +3
                Quote: Boris55
                Putin confirms that Kudrin was recognized by "foreign countries" as the best finance minister
                And before that, everyone believed that the Eurodengi magazine, which recognized Kudrin as the best and presented him with the award, in fact did not recognize him as the best and did not present the award - is that so? laughing
                What is Putin talking about, saying the phrase "I am sure that it was so" - what is he sure of? That Kudrin was still recognized as the best? That is, that he does not know for sure, but is sure that they did recognize it? laughing
                Once again I ask you - are you tired of playing with words?

                In my opinion, Putin wanted to say that the der'mocrat Kudrin, being a date, did not give money for the development of Russia, the rearmament of the army, for an increase in salaries, pensions ... for which he received praise from the West, already twice ...
                Vova said what he wanted to say. And do not forget that entot shit is an old Putin’s root (which Putin never hid), and that they were all tied up through Sobchak since the 90s.

                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 25 December 2013 21: 21
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Vova said what he wanted to say.

                  And everyone heard what he wanted to hear.
                  5:52 "The defense industry and social obligations, pensions, etc. hang on it." and about the fact that the regions are shish ...
                  What kind of priest did we have all of this under Kudrin’s finance board? This is what Putin said. Everything else is a crap for a hamster.
                  However, to look wider and deeper, however.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 25 December 2013 21: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Boris55
                    However, to look deeper deeper, however.
                    From such "breadth" and "depth" your focus is so lost that nonsense about Stalin's opposition to Marxism seemed to you to be true.

                    A man is a contradiction: you write that you should not believe what is written on the fence, but at the same time, a 14-year-old chatter, diverging from business, for some reason does not tell you anything.
                    1. Boris55
                      Boris55 25 December 2013 21: 52
                      -2
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      while 14-year old idle talk

                      8 + 2 = 14? laughing
                      What is in the 99, that in the 13 year, life has not changed much? How many people do we have at night living below the subsistence level? How many in the 99?
                      In my opinion, a word is forgotten ...
                      You hear the words, but do not understand the general meaning of what was said - the example with Kudrin only confirmed this.
                    2. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 25 December 2013 22: 46
                      -2
                      Quote: Boris55
                      8 + 2 = 14?
                      How many years have passed from August 99th to now?

                      What in the 99th, that in the 13th year, how much life has not changed?
                      Computers are 3 times faster than steel, prices with revenues in general have grown equally, energy consumption has increased, the cloud of reforms has failed from the layman's point of view, corruption has become widespread ...
                      Only conceptual positive changes I somehow did not notice.

                      How many people do we have at night living below the subsistence level? So much as in the 99th?
                      In my opinion, a word is forgotten ...
                      And this, Bor, how to consider: if officially, then 13%, but if it’s real (at the cost of living you can live on) - 2/3 of the population.

                      You hear the words, but do not understand the general meaning of what was said - the example with Kudrin only confirmed this.
                      Where to me - it’s you who we are a great interpreter, and probably a mathematician at the Perelman level - I figured it out like a period of idle talk.
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 26 December 2013 06: 16
            0
            In-in. Recognized the best and fired ... Of course he is the best, but the best enemy of the good :).
  • treskoed
    treskoed 25 December 2013 07: 31
    +6
    Every lecturer here is from the "former"! Kudrin, Kasyanov, Nemtsov ... Does "epiphany" come only after the dismissal? Maybe then you need to fire more often?
    1. major071
      major071 25 December 2013 07: 53
      +8
      treskoed
      Every one of us who teaches is from the "former"! Kudrin, Kasyanov, Nemtsov ... Does "epiphany" come only after the dismissal?

      Do you know that some Old Believer deputies are still quietly playing tennis? laughing
      1. treskoed
        treskoed 25 December 2013 08: 16
        +1
        Really !? And I thought that they switched to judo!
        1. major071
          major071 25 December 2013 08: 24
          +7
          So it’s new, but the old still have a portrait of Yeltsin under the portrait of Putin hanging on the wall. Nostalgia, you know ... laughing
          1. bairat
            bairat 25 December 2013 09: 19
            +5
            Quote: treskoed
            Really !? And I thought that they switched to judo!

            there was still badminton between judo lol
            1. military
              military 25 December 2013 10: 19
              +1
              Quote: bairat
              there was still badminton between judo

              yeah ... there was such ... a slate with a racket ... between judo and judo after ... laughing
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        2. Encoder
          Encoder 25 December 2013 10: 34
          0
          Judo - on the tennis court
          1. treskoed
            treskoed 25 December 2013 12: 07
            0
            Maybe hold a tournament. WITH RETIREMENT !?
            1. Tyumen
              Tyumen 25 December 2013 21: 50
              0
              With a retirement.
  • O_RUS
    O_RUS 25 December 2013 07: 37
    +1
    "But the way in which they are trying to deal with it, makes us remember the famous saying about a medicine that is worse than a disease."

    Those who really want to solve the problem are struggling with the cause of the disease, and not with the effect.

    "In other words, state-owned companies should be prohibited from evading taxes, leaving this right exclusively for the private sector."

    How many more state-owned companies do Russia have?
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 25 December 2013 07: 46
      +1
      Gos. companies ...... This is a very difficult question)))). In fact, not one. There is a lot involved in the private (allegorical, so that we can only part of the military-industrial complex?
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 25 December 2013 07: 40
    +6
    An interesting article, where everything that the government does is turned upside down. Or the government we have only degenerates or something is wrong with the article, or rather with the author.
    Nabiulina claims that she closes money laundering "laundries" or completely bankrupt banks, for which nothing will shine.
    I do not argue that any closure of the bank is someone's tears. But banks should not do mayhem. That's about a few and punished. Why not?
    I believe that our banks, and just average ones, are not at all reliable. I never went to any such bank for a loan, let alone with savings. They will cheat, they will cheat so that you will not gain anything from them, but only lose. It is “their own people” that work there and banks have been created for “their own”, not pensioners and small entrepreneurs. These will always be offended if the state does not save.
    1. Encoder
      Encoder 25 December 2013 10: 43
      0
      Yes, they are all smeared in one world. It's just that big ones have more chances (I wanted to write to survive - but this is not the case. A ridiculous phrase would turn out in relation to people bathing in luxury) gobble up the little ones along with their contents. That is why they seem more reliable. But in reality, if the state can help with problems with the small ones, then in the case of the large ones they will throw everyone and the state will be at the same time.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 25 December 2013 07: 47
    +2
    They will deceive them, they will wind them up so that you won’t gain anything from them, but only lose them.

    Banks live on this - after all, they produce nothing but virtual money.
    Trust in banks has been severely undermined by a series of large-scale frauds such as MMM.
    Therefore, even the most reliable bank is just a cover for moneylenders whose purpose is still simple loaned a man a ruble, return ten rubles.
    1. Encoder
      Encoder 25 December 2013 10: 52
      +9
      A man came to the bank - Give, he says I will return 1000 rubles from the harvest.
      Good - says the banker - give 2000 and still need a guarantee.
      - Well, take the ax.
      - Okay, take 1000.
      A man took 1000 and was about to leave, but the banker stopped:
      - After all, it will be difficult for you to immediately give 2000. Come on one now, and the other afterwards, it's better.
      - Yes, indeed 2000 will be hard for me right away, well, take one.
      And then a man comes home and thinks - he went to the bank for help, he didn’t have to pay any money or an ax, and even a thousand ...
  • stayer
    stayer 25 December 2013 07: 48
    0
    Bank cleaning is needed. The banking sector cannot swell like a soap bubble. Only the real sector can lead the country out of the crisis. You should not blame all the troubles on Kudrin, the article does not describe his proposals at all, including 2008-2009. And Teddy Bear fired him without seeing (not listening) many of his proposals. And his proposals were just for the development of the real sector, and not investing in American candy wrappers. All that he said then on economics came true to one degree or another.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 December 2013 08: 19
      +1
      Quote: stayer
      Bank cleaning is needed. The banking sector cannot swell like a soap bubble.

      exactly, only now the banks are closing and their place is being taken by companies like "I Want - Intercept" ...
      1. stayer
        stayer 25 December 2013 08: 44
        +2
        You should not think so. Statistics is an unforgiving thing. In 2004, there were 1337 banks in the Russian Federation, and in 2013 there were only 956. Moreover, there were only 10 banks with a statutory fund above 23 billion rubles.

        Banks do not work on their own, as they do not produce anything. If the bank does not have a clientele and there is no one to raise funds, then the bank will not be able to work. Ideally, only banks that invest their funds and customer funds in the real sector of the economy should remain. All others who are engaged in pumping money supply should disappear.
      2. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 26
        0
        Is it just banks ?!
  • Lk17619
    Lk17619 25 December 2013 07: 49
    +4
    In principle, all this shobla in the government and around them is only concerned with the profit in their own pocket, the collapse of Russia, in order to become some sort of petty king. It’s necessary to change them all ... angry
  • Magadan
    Magadan 25 December 2013 07: 54
    +4
    It is time to recall the Stalin experience. The worst case of wrecking. Just for starters, the article of the Criminal Code for wrecking should be. Nothing, by the way, is complicated: a pest is one that, by order of a third party, or by its own ideological convictions, deliberately harms its enterprise or country. Wrecking can be divided into economic wrecking by order of a competitor, when the enterprise is drowned (up to 10 years, as for fraud) and state wrecking, when Presidential decrees are deliberately distorted / boycotted (up to 10 years), or economic / defense is destroyed by order of foreign agents power of the country
    1. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 33
      0
      a pest is one that, by order of a third party, or by its own ideological convictions, deliberately harms its enterprise or country.

      Is it only out of ideological conviction?
      But what about financial reasons?
      Our thieves have only one ideological conviction - grab everything that comes to hand. Today he sings one thing, tomorrow he will smell the money and will sing in a new way.
      Remember how our democrats run from party to party. It is interesting to see how many transitions have all our "elite", as they call themselves.
  • Stinger
    Stinger 25 December 2013 07: 54
    +3
    Any official who holds his index finger during a conversation, like Kudrin in the photo, must be fired immediately. This is no longer a worker, and not an objectionable oracle.
  • 311ove
    311ove 25 December 2013 07: 58
    +2
    In my opinion, the current "economists" in the government since the time of Gaidar have confused the textbook on economics with the "12 chairs" by Ilf and Petrov ..... And so we live .... "abroad will help us" ... request
  • makarov
    makarov 25 December 2013 07: 59
    +3
    “Unfortunately, the proposed deoffshorization measures in our conditions are unlikely to reduce the withdrawal of capital. They are correct regarding state-owned companies. ”

    That’s all the damn thing. You can’t steal and not pay taxes to the head and directors of state-owned enterprises, and private companies, please, and on your health. But non-payment of taxes by these companies, this is outright theft, and the tax burden subsequently "curls" are placed on small traders and so-called businessmen from the garden.
  • alicante11
    alicante11 25 December 2013 08: 09
    +10
    Gentlemen comrades. How much can you? Kudrin, Fursenko, LADIES. Yes, if the GDP is twisting into the horn of Yanukovych. Or even Obama with his resources. Then he can crush these "monsters" with one fingernail. But it does not press ... Hence the conclusion? They are doing everything right for GDP.

    Here is the same problem with decrees. Not fulfilled. And GDP is not to blame. The government is to blame. And who formed the government? Well, okay, the mistake came out. It happens! But under Stalin, this "government" would have been working on logging. And here it "has not yet worked out its resource." Yeshkin cat, because they failed YOUR promises, and if everything is fine, then YOU are lying!
  • Sars
    Sars 25 December 2013 08: 23
    +3
    Everything that has been done with our economy since the time of Gaidar is a matter for law enforcement agencies.
    Of course, it’s impossible to call Kudrin and Medvedev agents of international (Jewish) financial imperialism, but the Central Bank is part of the Federal Reserve System (Rothschilds), it is not accountable to Russian authorities. And where is our stabilization fund?
    The brawl between Kudrin and Medvedev occurred due to the fact that they work for different financial groups (Medvedev is most likely a Rockefeller man, like all his relatives Mendel).
    1. S-200
      S-200 25 December 2013 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      Medvedev is most likely a Rockefeller man, like all of his mendelie’s relatives

      Well, how, how ...
      they seem to write music - Mendelssohn's waltz!
      Once I heard it somewhere, long time ago ..... what
    2. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 25 December 2013 08: 51
      +1
      What is the argument about? Who is whose relative, what's the difference? All of them are representatives of the fifth column. And they work only for their own interests.
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 25 December 2013 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: SarS
      The central bank is part of the Federal Reserve System (Rothschilds), it is not accountable to Russian authorities. And where is our stabilization fund?
      How did the primitive conspiracy theories hesitate

      What makes you think that it is not accountable, and who put this stabilization fund there?
  • AX
    AX 25 December 2013 08: 25
    +5
    They entered the WTO ... So what? Nothing, for us at the very bottom of those who dwell ... Evil is not enough ...
    1. makarov
      makarov 25 December 2013 08: 44
      +3
      "... Evil is not enough ..."

      Money is Evil. Therefore, uv. Igor completely agrees with you, the only thing is to add the word "People".
  • 31231
    31231 25 December 2013 08: 45
    0
    I don’t understand something. This article is an advertisement by Kudrin ?!
    What are some unknown circles have begun to spin it for the next presidential election ?!
  • umah
    umah 25 December 2013 08: 49
    +2
    need a strategic plan to overcome stagnation

    I think Kudrin will not like the strategic plan, because it will provide for the expulsion of people like him, who have failed to fulfill their duties, to logging in order to work out all the losses caused to the state and people. It would be nice to add Chubais and Taburetkin to his company. Previously, there were such useful articles of the Criminal Code as Theft of state property and wrecking. Under wrecking on fresh forest air, you can generally send the floor of the cabinet, if not all.
  • 31231
    31231 25 December 2013 08: 52
    -5
    No matter how you look at the chat, it’s all about financiers. Dear, who among you has at least an economic education to criticize Kudrin and other financiers ?! You cannot even distinguish microeconomics from macroeconomics. Understand first in your microeconomics, and then criticize economists on a national scale.
    1. 311ove
      311ove 25 December 2013 09: 25
      +4
      Quote: 31231
      economists of state scale.

      A question for you, dear, perhaps as a specialist ..... Enlighten, what is the difference between an economist and a "national economist"? What does science say about this? Or the position of the mind adds, or patriotism? what hi I think this is not the case ....
      1. My address
        My address 25 December 2013 10: 50
        +4
        Dear Andrey hi !

        An economist of national scale is a girl or a boy, you can even have an intellect lower than a stool, but only a liberal who, for a number of reasons, has come a long way in life: a student.skamya-graduate school-thieves in power (better in St. Petersburg, but it’s possible in Moscow daidar) ministry. And others, who, like my relatives, started working and only after graduation became a normalizer (God forbid work, everyone except the boss and deputies, normalizers are considered the enemy in the workshop) and actively in the 90 did not allow the factory to collapse, so, economists second grade. They just went for a walk, as Gleb Zheglov said.
        See my relative's opinion on the gold currency below. Not so long ago I tortured him.
        1. 311ove
          311ove 25 December 2013 11: 54
          +2
          This is the correct train of thought in my understanding, especially from thieves .... laughing I'm certainly not an economist, but a student. the bench in those years gave all the same some beginnings .... Therefore, I found fault with the phrase "then criticize ...." If I were you, I would put them in quotes right away laughing hi And your relative is absolutely right.
      2. 31231
        31231 25 December 2013 14: 54
        -1
        I’m not smart here and do not propose measures to save the economy. So you are not asking me a question. Maybe Yarosvet will write you brilliant economic proposals.
        Just, guys, what to write for something that is not in the tooth with a foot ?! Criticism is good when you are an expert in this matter, and not a layman.
        1. 311ove
          311ove 25 December 2013 15: 22
          +3
          Dear Alexander, I don’t do the same. But "my sadness" in this discussion is that there may be no genius, but at least intelligent and honest, even if not patriots in the highest sense of the word, at least not biased by just anyone. " " what request .... I'm probably a naive idealist repeat lol It seems to me that more specific individuals are discussing here and what they are doing with the economy, and not the economy as such ...
        2. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 45
          +1
          By the way, if I'm really not kicking in the economy, it doesn’t matter. (nationwide)
          The trouble is that Kudrin is also as good at economics as I am. But this is a disaster on a national scale!
    2. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 41
      0
      At Euronews, it was shown that, after raising the price of electricity, the inflation rate rose by 0,9% year on year.
      And Kudrin’s rise in energy prices did not affect inflation.
    3. yur
      yur 26 December 2013 01: 06
      +2
      Dear, where are the results of the work of "large-scale economists"? To remind you that a government made up of mostly secondary-educated people led by a former seminarian, just 12 years after the most devastating war, rebuilt the country and was the first in the world to launch a satellite into space. And now, after a quarter of a century, we have barely reached the indicators of the late 80s. So maybe the main thing is not to be an economist on a global scale, but most importantly to love your homeland?
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  • pensioner
    pensioner 25 December 2013 09: 00
    +4
    We are drowned by a “team of professionals”
    When this command will begin to sink! By God I can stand with an ice-hole at the ice-hole, help ... repeat They got it.
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 25 December 2013 09: 09
      +3
      When the torpedo on the ship will be released.
    2. My address
      My address 25 December 2013 10: 55
      +4
      Hi, Jura!
      Long live pensioners who earned first-order care in the Soviet Union! Similarly for military pensioners! Even the hellish patron, nicknamed Shaitan Yegor Daidar, will not be included in the first list of any curls.

      May the New Year befall you solemnly named the proud and formidable title of Grandfather! drinks
      Hooray comrades!
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 25 December 2013 09: 14
    +1
    Come on, a team of "professionals", Morgan, Rockefeller and Rothschild have achieved at least something in their lives, but what have these Kudrins, Siluanovs, Gaidars achieved? Quoting a character from the cult computer game Half-Life 2: , have you created anything? "Anyway, I doubt that they read at least some textbooks, neither well or poorly translated.
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 25 December 2013 09: 30
      +2
      Can they be compared?
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 25 December 2013 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: Shurale
        Can they be compared?

        Only as the embodiment of the "right" and "the wrong".
        1. Shurale
          Shurale 25 December 2013 09: 57
          +3
          In my opinion, these are people of completely different lines of activity, they cannot be compared in any way. Some went to big money and power over corpses for many years, passing from generation to generation how to get things done and passing on children not only skill but also means to achieve their goals. The second serve them for the collapse of one particular country. How can they be compared? Pink and fresh are hard to compare.
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          2. Standard Oil
            Standard Oil 25 December 2013 10: 32
            +1
            People worked, got up, do you think everything was easy for Rockefeller? From ordinary accountants to the owner of the world's largest oil company, it seems that he did not have a "dad" or "uncle", "aunt", "grandmother", " grandfathers ", all by himself. Did he then think about" power over the world "I do not know, but to identify with him some kind of Kudrin, who got out of nowhere and also then disappear is at least ridiculous.
            1. Shurale
              Shurale 25 December 2013 13: 48
              +2
              Poor, poor Rockefeller, even beginning to sympathize with him. And Kudrin, at all ready, grew up under communism, didn’t earn a dime - and there, I completely agree, you can’t compare them.
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  • Azzi
    Azzi 25 December 2013 09: 59
    +1
    All these are high words, a strange economic meaning, demagogy. At least a medium-sized business withdraws money for a simple reason, there is no certainty about the security of its business. Remove corruption, fight with bribes in the normal way, protect the business with normal laws in force and the conclusion will run dry by itself. It has long been not a matter of taxes, or rather, mostly not of them. The conclusion is also risky and problematic, but so far the situation with the cops / officials at such a level, while it is necessary to cash out a bunch of cache for them and hide the hard-earned money from them, the withdrawal problem cannot be solved. Tighten laws, find new holes, the conclusion will be more expensive for the owner, but the motivation to withdraw will become stronger.
  • military
    military 25 December 2013 10: 12
    +5
    Russia's accession to the World Trade Organization, which was aggressively lobbied by the same financial circles, resulted in a massive closure of enterprises, delays in salaries and disruption of local budgets.

    interestingly, the girls are dancing ... the extreme, which means they have already designated ... and the mister guarantor never told us that joining the WTO for Russia is a seam ... on the contrary, at every opportunity, he was crucified and crucified to this day, that is this "veri good" for our economy ... still not in the know? ... or is it polishing our brains again? ...
  • My address
    My address 25 December 2013 10: 14
    +8
    And why did curls and nabuibulins become professionals?
    Who produced them in them? As the saying goes: "Announce your track record and personal achievements!"

    I have a professional economist in my family. He proved this, starting with the rationers and reaching the deputy director for economics of large-scale production. Now in the same position, but under the name of the economic director. When I asked about the location of our gold and currency in Washington, Brussels and London, he expressed himself briefly: "The foolishness of some and the betrayal of others. Those and others are sitting in Moscow." But he did not answer for specific names, and it’s understandable.

    And these am professionally only rob the country.
  • Mviktor
    Mviktor 25 December 2013 10: 16
    +3
    these people not only do not seek to “deoffshorize” capital, but, on the contrary, uphold the interests of the offshore bourgeoisie, neglecting the problems of the state and workers in the real sector.

    Kudrin and the liberal team professionally created all the conditions and incentives for the withdrawal of financial assets abroad, including state ones. What kind of economic growth can be discussed in this case? All our liberals zealously serve international oligarchic Zionism. The development and growth of the Russian economy is not included in their plans. Russia is occupied by the Zionists in the white house is not the government of Russia. and the occupation administration. And very competently, they blocked everything if we shove the occupation administration out of the swamp scum and try to fragment the Russian people.
    1. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 53
      0
      The Russian government is sitting in the White House, only on the other continent is this White House!
  • Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 25 December 2013 10: 20
    +4
    The criterion of professionalism should be one:
    Is the result of the activity of this "professional" useful for our Motherland or not?
    In accordance with the answer to this question there must be a retribution.
    Fair and inevitable.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 25 December 2013 10: 25
    +4
    What kind of country we have, where the state with one hand "fights" with the export of capital to offshores, and with the other hand condones these export. After all, this money is taken out state-owned companies. This is how corrupt everything is with us !. An incomprehensible country, an incomprehensible political leadership of the country.
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 25 December 2013 10: 28
    +5
    ... If only Stalin would last for a couple of years, eh? ... The Abramovichs, the Prokhorovs and Khodorkovskys would also disappear, the fields would start to plow ... The nuclear submarines would have been built not for 10 years, but for 2 years ... We would not fly on old and "reliable" Boeings, and on Carcasses and Ilah ... Pi ... tiya would have gone into oblivion ... Women would start giving birth ... And today's youth would stop making three mistakes in the word "bread" ...
    And the problems of stupid and inept leadership would disappear by themselves - they would quickly learn everything for the real good of the Motherland ...
  • pahom54
    pahom54 25 December 2013 10: 37
    +3
    This team of "professional recidivist criminals, you can’t call it otherwise ... Serdyukov, Kudrin, almost the entire staff of the HSE — it’s hard to list, but they’re all in plain sight, and the Criminal Code is crying and crying about all of them, wishing to impute high treason to them ...” In general, as my former boss used to say, it is a country of fools and green tomatoes ... Only this team of "professionals" cannot be called fools - they have broken through to the power, they have stuck to the money - and not a single bank will dump them (and if - then only a bullet).
    Here the other day they were arguing about the role of Stalin in the history of the USSR ... I repeat once again - with him this would not have happened, firstly, this team of "professionals" would not have been able to appear, but if something, then a day would have been enough, to make it disappear.
    And it turns out that the team of "professionals" is either ruled, or it is also covered by "professionals" (guess three times - who?) ...
    1. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 25 December 2013 10: 50
      +1
      You are right, if they were professionals, we would at least have a GDP of 5-7 %% per year, or even more than 10-12 %%, with the current about 2%, you can just talk about sabotaging the decisions of the president, complete the failure of the entire government, ashamed of the country's leadership, we do not need 37 years, but we really need it for people like these "pros" look how ordinary people live, but it's just a shame, balancing on the brink of poverty. For this, all these last-born Gaidar-Chubais-Kudrin ideas need to go to Kolyma. They just do not let the people live, but they themselves do not climb out of the television screens with snickering muzzles.
    2. military
      military 25 December 2013 10: 53
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      This team of "professional recidivist criminals, you can’t call it otherwise ... Serdyukov, Kudrin, almost the entire staff of the HSE — it’s hard to list, but they are all in plain sight, and the Criminal Code is crying and crying over everyone ...”

      these "cartridges" have already been shot ... but for those that are still in the clip, no one is crying? ... but for the "loader"? ...
  • Encoder
    Encoder 25 December 2013 11: 02
    +4
    That you still have not felt the social norms on electricity. Who generally saves by reducing the consumption of goods. Any manufacturer is fighting for an increase in sales (and energy is no exception), and if we are fighting for a decrease in sales (of any product) in our country, this can only lead to an increase in prices and nothing more (and there is no need for cross-subsidizing prices for we have many times more electricity tariffs from the manufacturer)
    1. military
      military 25 December 2013 11: 41
      +6
      wholesale prices for electricity directly from generating companies are not just several times less ... the selling wholesale price of electricity from most nuclear power plants is still at the level of about 20 kopecks / kW ... only the same energy networks are located between the producer and the final retail consumer - both transporting and marketing ... "social norm" is a banal form of additional withdrawal of money from the population ... the population is outraged by the rise in tariffs? ... make us happy, no question! ... frown from the blue screen ... shake a finger .. we will trumpet the whole country ... we will "restrict" ... and along the way we will introduce the social norm ... well, where will the fried-eared (average Russian) go? ... will pay, how cute ... winked
      1. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 26 December 2013 00: 01
        0
        For all these intermediaries of TRANSFER, it is necessary to thank one more great figure of new Russian history - Chewbaks!
    2. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 25 December 2013 23: 59
      +2
      If you could put 1000 pluses! For this, everything is introduced. You have to grab more and more, so you need to come up with something new for the same.
      1. military
        military 26 December 2013 09: 54
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        Quote: voffchik7691
        You have to grab more and more, so you need to come up with something new for the same.

        by the way ... the concept of a widespread transition to LED lighting is very interesting from this point of view ... the cost of an LED light bulb is on average 10-15 times higher than the cost of an incandescent lamp with a similar level of light output ... on colorful packages the service life is stupidly positioned up to 50 hours ... the LED "cluster" itself, in principle, is able to achieve such an operating time ... BUT (!) ... the LED lamp has a "nuance" in the form of a built-in power supply driver ... and that's it more often, not only the bundle, but the driver itself as a whole is of Chinese origin ... "paradox" ... the bundle is subject to customs duties, but imported drivers are not, which makes ordering and supplying them from abroad very attractive. .. true, to the detriment of quality, because the real operating time of the driver, taking into account the quality of electricity in Russian networks, will never reach 000 hours ... and the warranty period for replacing failed lamps from the most "advanced" manufacturers does not exceed t 50 years ... but an increase in electricity tariffs provokes the consumer to buy such products ... in addition, there are a number of questions that are bypassed by default ... a decrease in light output by 000% over a service life is considered the norm ... burnout of the phosphor during operation will shift the energy spectrum of light radiation into the "blue region" (gallium arsenide diodes are used) ... and the human eye is not adapted to this band of the visible spectrum and it affects the visual receptors negatively ...
        the use of LED lighting on street highways is another story ... in terms of light output, such lamps are incomparable with traditional sodium lamps ... the cost of one such "LED lamp" is about 25 thousand rubles. ... the level of light pulsations in the band up to 300 Hz reaches 100% when operating at low temperatures ... with traditional intervals between lighting poles, the driver has sensations similar to that caused by a strobe effect ... well, and - all the same drivers with the age-old problem of their reliability ...
        so this "innovation" so far has all the signs of a grandiose scam lobbied at the very top ... bully
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  • ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 25 December 2013 11: 41
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    The author collected something in a heap, started from afar, and the background is visible with an unarmed eye. Either the author has shares in Rosselkhozbank, or the article was simply ordered. How easy it is to manipulate the minds of people, to mention the plight of the peasants, and here is the result, although this Rosselkhozbank is related to the peasants only by the presence of "agricultural" in its name. The bank is owned by a handful of "businessmen" and is licensed to distribute government money to agricultural producers through their connections at the top. Those who have applied to this bank will understand what I am talking about.
  • homosum20
    homosum20 25 December 2013 13: 04
    +3
    As long as this financial system, with a branch of the FRS at its head (Central Bank), remains, it will attract "professionals" to carry out its tasks. A "professional" does not have to be a specialist. A "professional" liberal is also a "professional". It is necessary to change the Constitution, liquidate the Central Bank, change the legal framework of the financial system (the goals of its work) - then specialists will come. And we will stop buying candy wrappers from the Federal Reserve (debt obligations) for tangible material values, and we will be able to direct them to the development of the country. With the help of the same legislative framework, to fight against the withdrawal of money to offshore companies - in fact, GDP began to do this.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 25 December 2013 13: 49
    +1
    "Professionals" (Kudrin and others like him), owning the secrets of money circulation and banking regulationand the mighty 3,14zda of course can mislead the PEOPLE (our people in Russia) ... That's just not the task - why the number of billionaires at the time of the crisis is growing ... a.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 25 December 2013 14: 05
    +3
    Russia's accession to the World Trade Organization, which was aggressively lobbied by the same financial circles, turned into a massive closure of enterprises
  • sxn278619
    sxn278619 25 December 2013 17: 32
    +2
    Make a list of technologies in the world. Russia with its 150 million people cannot realize all of them. Hence the need for a world division of labor. Russia can barely cope with a set of so-called critical technologies.
    That import was necessary export. Japan and Germany are the largest commodity exporters. Russia as a raw material. What is the minus of commodity exports - today a barrel costs 110 dollars, and tomorrow 55 dollars. And the plus is that for production and transportation, insignificant labor costs are required.
    The problem is how to spend money on exports, what to import. Consumer goods (40% of imports0) or high-quality defense industry equipment (future exports), or build infrastructure, or etc.
  • Keeper
    Keeper 25 December 2013 18: 15
    +2
    Friends, forgive me, but I will introduce my bitter pill in this article ...
    As a specialist in loans, I tell:
    Starting from the new year, interest rates at Khom Credit Bank will increase (it seems not only to him, but also to OTP and other banks).
    He gave loans with a minimum interest rate (only one percent per month = 12% per annum, even the SBRF does not have this), and now the curator said that the rates were required to be raised (((now there will be a minimum rate likely from about 1,5 to 2% per month, respectively twice = 24% per annum (and this is without any insurance) ...
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 26 December 2013 07: 31
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      Well fuck you with your loans. If only I hadn't paid extra. So turn up your stakes even higher. Maybe people will understand that this is nonsense, to buy something in 10 times more expensive than real value. Let in installments.
  • demotivator
    demotivator 25 December 2013 18: 30
    +4
    "We are drowned by a team of professionals" - who would doubt that these are professionals? The only question is that these are professional destroyers, not creators. This is what, and the whole choice, to die at the hands of professional murderers, or from amateur murderers?
  • I think so
    I think so 25 December 2013 19: 27
    +1
    What the fuck are professionals - typical dropouts both in their main profession and in economics. With the help of the same sloppy media as Isami, they got promoted and now for some reason they are called "professionals", even quite worthy authors. Miracles and nothing more ... If you want to punish a person depriving him of his mind, if you want to punish the country, put the person punished in this way at the head of it ... live ...
  • Megre
    Megre 25 December 2013 20: 25
    +5
    From these pictures anyone will be in shock. Who we are and who they are.
    1. Megre
      Megre 25 December 2013 20: 26
      +2
      To be continued. This is not even in Africa ....
      1. Megre
        Megre 25 December 2013 20: 29
        +2
        If I am not mistaken, Tula is a hero city.
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        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 25 December 2013 21: 13
          +2
          Quote: Megrae
          This is not even in Africa ....
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 26 December 2013 07: 34
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            Again nonsense. Amer Sharashkin offices nabropali ratings taken from the ceiling, and you as a child were happy.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 26 December 2013 10: 26
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              Quote: alicante11
              Amer Sharashkin’s offices scribbled ratings taken from the ceiling, and you, as a child, were delighted.

              Make your own.
              By the way, for some reason you do not protest against sharashkin ratings when they declare Russia the 5th economy in the world, or highlight other "achievements". Is it cognitive dissonance, or something?
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 26 December 2013 14: 40
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                And I’m not a sharashkin’s office to give out exaggerated ratings. And for compiling real ratings, I do not have enough data. As for the 5 economy of the world, I personally feel deeply lilac on this. Since nothing falls into me from this. Moreover, in this case, accurate GDP indicators are taken into account, and not discussions about the level of corruption that have been taken from the ceiling.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 26 December 2013 18: 28
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                  Quote: alicante11
                  Moreover, in this case, accurate GDP indicators are taken into account, and not discussions on the level of corruption that have been taken from the ceiling.

                  And here the exact numbers are not important - their ratio is important.
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 27 December 2013 01: 30
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                    The day is clear that "the ratio of exact figures."
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 27 December 2013 11: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: alicante11
                      The day is clear that "the ratio of exact figures."

                      Take an interest in the methods of compiling such ratings - this is interesting.

                      Our patriotic politicians often croak on the topic of the deceitfulness of such ratings, and neither for the Russian Federation nor for the decaying west do these ratings make up: why were you thinking?

                      Ratings are compiled using the same method for all countries. And reflecting the reality approximately, nevertheless, the place is determined quite accurately - the ratio of these places is just important for comparison.
                      1. alicante11
                        alicante11 27 December 2013 13: 55
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                        The technique is one. Look at the ceiling and rewrite from the manuals of the State Department.

                        Our patriotic politicians often croak on the topic of the deceitfulness of such ratings, and neither for the Russian Federation nor for the decaying west do these ratings make up: why were you thinking?


                        Because we do not have such a powerful media machine that could push these ratings. And without it, any rating is a baby clapperboard.

                        Ratings are compiled using the same method for all countries. And reflecting the reality approximately, nevertheless, the place is determined quite accurately - the ratio of these places is just important for comparison.


                        Brad.
                      2. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 27 December 2013 18: 21
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                        Quote: alicante11
                        The technique is one. Look at the ceiling and rewrite from the manuals of the State Department.
                        Where without the State Department-he is omnipresent and omnipotent ...

                        If everything was as you imagine, then everything would be much better than it is ...

                        Because we do not have such a powerful media machine that could push these ratings. And without it, any rating is a baby clapperboard
                        Yeah? So Fedorov / old people, the State Department’s media machine is promoting? laughing

                        Brad.
                        Are the numbers (not interpretations) of Rosstat also nonsense?
                      3. alicante11
                        alicante11 28 December 2013 07: 54
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                        Where without the State Department-he is omnipresent and omnipotent ...


                        Not omnipotent, but omnipresent :).

                        Yeah? So Fedorov / old people, the State Department’s media machine is promoting? laughing


                        Our media machine for PR Fedorov domestic use. But the State Department media machine hangs noodles on the ears of the whole world. Maybe when we have 5 pieces of foreign channels of BBS level, then our ratings will be pushed.

                        Are the numbers (not interpretations) of Rosstat also nonsense?


                        In the demotivator that you presented no Rosstat figures, and there were no others.
                      4. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 28 December 2013 13: 32
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                        Quote: alicante11
                        Maybe when we have 5 foreign channels of the BBS level, then ours will push ratings
                        What prevents ratings from being cooked for internal use - along with other tales of the rotting West? Note - not a single sociologist has yet disputed the reliability of the figures of Western ratings - only edros do this, and only unfoundedly.

                        In the demotivator that you presented no Rosstat figures, and there were no others.
                        That is, you do not dispute the reliability of Rosstat figures, which is already good. And here again the question arises: why is Rosstat ... (see further question above)
                      5. alicante11
                        alicante11 29 December 2013 17: 35
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                        What prevents ratings from being cooked for internal use - along with other tales of the rotting West? Note - not a single sociologist has yet disputed the reliability of the figures of Western ratings - only edros do this, and only unfoundedly.


                        What is there to challenge? You will give a methodology for determining corruption in the Russian Federation and the USA. These are all absolutely subjective assessments.

                        That is, you do not dispute the reliability of Rosstat figures, which is already good. And here again the question arises: why is Rosstat ... (see further question above)


                        What why Rosstat? Rosstat numbers are not used in these ratings. There are simply no objective figures.
                      6. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 30 December 2013 21: 11
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                        and opera
                        Quote: alicante11
                        What is there to challenge? You will give a methodology for determining corruption in the Russian Federation and the USA. These are all absolutely subjective assessments.
                        1 is not a methodology for determining corruption, but a methodology for determining the index of perception of corruption.
                        You can look at 2 methods on the websites of agencies conducting relevant studies.

                        What why Rosstat?
                        Why does Rosstat not cook up its ratings for internal use (wrote "see the question above")?
  • konvalval
    konvalval 25 December 2013 20: 34
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    Quote: Povshnik
    Quote: major071
    Well, they can’t invest in their own country; But systematically kill industry and with a smart look say that it should be so - they can, considering the people a stupid cattle. And no matter how their opponents prove that such an economy leads to the abyss, they will nevertheless stand their ground, because that is what they and their western masters need. am


    Stalin argued that there are NO irreplaceable people! But for some reason those in power do not want to change this "team of professionals" (or cannot), but draw your own conclusions. In words, one thing, but in deeds another.

    Stalin said that there are no irreplaceable people, but there are not replaced people. This is our case.
  • Power
    Power 25 December 2013 20: 39
    +1
    Yes, they do not care for everything. Look at their sleepy indifferent faces. The guys could not rise above the golden pistols, golden toilets and yachts with sluts - ciliates.
    PS Maybe the corpse of Gaddafi with a shank from a shovel in the anus, and the seizure of the stolen dough in offshore a little cheered them up, and so complete hopelessness for the country.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 December 2013 21: 09
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    <<< We are drowned by a "team of professionals" >>>
    Isn't it time for the supreme power to see the light and stop being in the role of "mumu" and exchange places with Gerasim - Kudrin and Co. and send them to the bottom, where they and their economic theories have long belonged! And no one, except for Western sponsors, WILL NOT regret it!
  • pr 627
    pr 627 25 December 2013 21: 24
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    The article is controversial and seems to be custom-made, and what can be expected of a professional from a GITIS graduate with a revolutionary past. Many small and medium-sized banks in Russia are cash desks for profit, not a locomotive of the economy. It looks like the author is shedding tears, for me it's leeches on the body Society and blood clot financial system. You can check, go and ask for a loan for a penny project, you won’t get anything.
  • Megre
    Megre 25 December 2013 21: 26
    +2
    OUR ANCESTORS WAS WISE, SMARTER, DARTER than US.
  • kelevra
    kelevra 26 December 2013 15: 26
    0
    Well, talk to such people, remove them from leadership positions and that’s all, establish control so that they do not occupy any leadership, let alone a strategic position! You can’t be a liberal and forgiveness do, otherwise such a contingent will quickly file Russia's feet! Crush and crush, it is necessary to fight against decomposed cadres and strata of the population!