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December 24 - Day of Military Glory of Russia. Day of the capture of the Turkish fortress Ishmael

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The capture of Izmail’s fortress by Russian troops was of decisive importance during the Russian-Turkish war of the 1787-1791. The fortress was the most important strategic point of the Turks on the Danube.


December 24 - Day of Military Glory of Russia. Day of the capture of the Turkish fortress Ishmael


Ishmael was the fortification of the most perfect fortification, on the one hand protected by the deep Danube, and from the rest by a deep 12-meter ditch, sometimes flooded with water deeper than human growth. Inside the fortress there were many stone buildings, ideally suited for the effective conduct of a long defense. The garrison of the fortress consisted of 35000 soldiers and officers and 265 artillery units. In short, Ishmael was a practically impregnable fortress, capable of withstanding a long and intense siege and a massive assault by the enemy, many times surpassing its garrison in numbers.

The siege of Ishmael by Russian troops began in November 1790. At the very beginning of the siege, two attempts were made to take the Turkish stronghold, but they failed. Subsequently, the commander-in-chief of the Russian army on the Danube, Field Marshal Gen. A. A. Potemkin instructed Ismail to capture the invincible A. V. Suvorov.

On the eve of the assault, Ismail Suvorov sent an ultimatum about surrender to the commandant of the fortress, to which the following reply was received: “The sky will fall to the ground, and the Danube will flow upwards rather than Izmail surrender.” Russian troops had to refute this self-confident assumption of the commandant of the fortress.

On December 24, 1790, Russian troops led by Suvorov marched to storm Ishmael. Nine infantry columns, united in three assault wings, advanced to the fortress from different sides. A river approached the shore of Ishmael flotilla and, under cover of artillery fire, landed an assault. A fierce battle lasted only about 9 hours. Turkish resistance was stubborn, but Ishmael fell. The loss of the enemy amounted to about 26000 killed. 9000 Turks were captured. As a trophy, Suvorov got all 265 guns that were in the fortress, as well as 42 ships. The total number of Russian losses is 4582 people.

The brilliant capture of Ishmael by Russian troops predetermined the conclusion of the Yassy peace in 1792, according to the terms of which Russia acquired the Crimea and the entire northern Black Sea coast from the Dniester in the west to the Kuban in the east.
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  1. Deniska999
    Deniska999 24 December 2013 08: 21
    +30
    How many times have the Turks been beaten, but they will not calm down in any way.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 December 2013 08: 24
      +23
      And not only the Turks
      1. GDP
        GDP 25 December 2013 13: 55
        +1
        The brilliant capture of Ishmael by Russian troops predetermined the conclusion of the Yassy peace in 1792, according to the terms of which Russia acquired the Crimea and the entire northern Black Sea coast from the Dniester in the west to the Kuban in the east.

        So - and now it’s not Russia at all.
        It is amazing how we so easily give away everything that we conquer with such difficulty ...
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    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 December 2013 08: 48
      +23
      Quote: Deniska999
      How many times have the Turks been beaten, but they will not calm down in any way.

      And Poland, which is better or smarter. Everyone who got in the teeth, put in new ones and dream of another ogrebone. There is no other explanation.
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 24 December 2013 08: 56
        +14
        We were in Beijing and in Paris and in Vienna and Berlin, this is not forgotten
        1. Energet1k_
          Energet1k_ 24 December 2013 09: 54
          +5
          He laughed)) We don’t forget it, but they are already starting ..
          1. ivshubarin
            ivshubarin 24 December 2013 09: 59
            +5
            Let them learn to fight, come check
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        3. Clegg
          Clegg 24 December 2013 12: 20
          +7
          Quote: ivshubarin
          We were in Beijing and in Paris and in Vienna and Berlin, this is not forgotten

          When to London and Washington?
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 19: 38
            -1
            Quote: Clegg
            When to London and Washington?

            Troll, is this a statement of the problem? I’ll answer, it’s still too early, but ... he will lock - we’ll come!
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      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 24 December 2013 09: 02
        +20
        Unfortunately, time and people did not spare the monument of military glory. Photo of the surviving remains of the Izmail fortress - retaining wall of the rampart and the Turkish water supply. The wall, which was recently excavated by Ukrainian "black archaeologists", is planned to be covered with soil, and the water supply - with sand. This, experts say, is necessary in order to preserve the historical monument from vandals, already pulling it to bricks. True, there is no money for the work and it seems that it will not.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 24 December 2013 12: 19
          +6
          There are no excavations, no money, and it seems that the state itself is no longer there. Only territories remained. And the government thinks to whom it would be more expensive to sell them.
      4. valokordin
        valokordin 24 December 2013 10: 47
        +3
        Hello Alejandro, everything is like in a fairy tale three heads are chopped off in return. And what dentists in the world have more and more new jaws, it's time to chop off their hands.
        1. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 25 December 2013 11: 15
          0
          valokordin
          "It's time to cut off their hands."
          right, waist-high.
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      6. 222222
        222222 24 December 2013 21: 46
        +4
        .... Suvorov sent a short ultimatum to the commandant of Ishmael: “I arrived here with the troops. 24 hours to think - the will. My first shot is captivity. The assault is death! ” The fortress commandant arrogantly replied: “Rather, the Danube will stop in its course and the sky will fall to the ground, than Izmail will surrender!” ....
        ... by the evening the fortress fell ...
    4. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 24 December 2013 11: 33
      +6
      The brilliant capture of Ishmael by Russian troops predetermined the conclusion of the Yassy peace in 1792, according to the terms of which Russia acquired the Crimea and the entire northern Black Sea coast from the Dniester in the west to the Kuban in the east.


      And in Ukrainian textbooks on the history of Ukraine - it's not so !!! Moscow came ... and occupied the Ukrainian land ... along the way, building ports, cities, factories and a railway here, and then forced the Ukrainian peasants with Russian slaves from the Central zone of Russia to develop this "wild field" of vile Ukraine wassat
      1. xan
        xan 24 December 2013 15: 08
        +10
        The capture of Ishmael shocked the entire diplomatic and military elite of Europe. In those days, such casualties by those killed and wounded were extremely rare, and usually corresponded to epoch-making battles that changed the strategic alignment of forces on the continent, such as the Battle of Malplack or the Battle of Kunersdorf. And here, on the edge of Europe, the Russians almost completely cut out the many-thousand-strong garrison of the strongest fortress, which many envious of Russia hoped for. European newspapers did not know what Suvorov looked like, and portrayed him as a butcher at the head of an epic beast. Western hacks already fought against our people with might and main.
        “He who is against me is dead” (Suvorov)
        The soldier's recollections of the first meeting with Suvorov (I don’t remember how it fits together): “All the army knew that there would be Suvorov tomorrow. The talks were only about him, everyone was preparing as for the most important day, as for a meeting with the heavenly archangel. And now the troops are standing, and a crowd of generals gallops, and in front he is all in white. He flew up to the formation and shouted in a ringing voice "Great eagles!" The army barked so that it became clear that everyone would follow him to death. And I will go. "
        1. alone
          alone 24 December 2013 21: 00
          +1
          There are no invincible fortifications. You just need to have desire and perseverance.
          1. xan
            xan 25 December 2013 14: 34
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            There are no invincible fortifications. You just need to have desire and perseverance.

            He who sits on the defensive also has a desire and perseverance.
    5. Horde
      Horde 24 December 2013 21: 56
      +2
      The loss of the enemy was about 26000 killed. 9000 Turks were captured. As trophies Suvorov got all 265 guns that were in the fortress, as well as 42 ships. The total number of Russian losses is 4582 people.


      in general, this assault looks strange 26tys. Turks died DEFENSE, And ours about 5tys GOING? The big question ... According to military theory, a three-fold superiority in manpower is necessary for a successful attack. After sitting behind cover, the defender can AIM fire, especially since the Turks were more than our 35 thousand. against 31 thousand. Russian.
      The artillery preparation, which lasted a day before the assault, turned out to be "very effective" i.e. the Turkish artillery sitting outside the walls was completely suppressed, because they no longer remember about it, it is VERY Doubtful, to recall, say, the LONG DAYS defense of the Malakhov Kurgan in 1854-1855 by Sevastopol, when the artillery redoubts were bombarded for many days and everything held on. fell practically in a day ... But it was a time of total German lies. By the way, I saw modern photos that there is practically no fortress IZMAIL, why did it take to destroy our fortress now? especially since we fought a Turk and then often?
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 24 December 2013 23: 13
        +1
        There is also information about the actions of Suvorov in Poland, when one of his names took the troops to flight. I can assume that the attack on the ramparts occurred at night and apparently did not allow targeted fire. Then there was a fierce battle and after raising the Russian flag above the rampart, panic began. Further, the city was already cleansed by the city itself.

        But these are my assumptions.
      2. crest 57
        crest 57 24 December 2013 23: 17
        +1
        Orda (3)
        in general, this assault looks strange 26tys. Turks died DEFENSE, And ours about 5tys GOING? The big question ... According to military theory, a three-fold superiority in manpower is necessary for a successful attack. After sitting behind cover, the defender can AIM fire, especially since the Turks were more than our 35 thousand. against 31 thousand. Russian.
        The artillery preparation, which lasted a day before the assault, turned out to be "very effective" i.e. the Turkish artillery sitting outside the walls was completely suppressed, because they no longer remember about it, it is VERY Doubtful, to recall, say, the LONG DAYS defense of the Malakhov Kurgan in 1854-1855 by Sevastopol, when the artillery redoubts were bombarded for many days and everything held on. fell practically in a day ... But it was a time of total German lies. By the way, I saw modern photos that there is practically no fortress IZMAIL, why did it take to destroy our fortress now? especially since we fought a Turk and then often?


        So after all: "They fight not by number, but by skill!" Do you remember who said?
        1. Horde
          Horde 24 December 2013 23: 31
          -1
          Quote: 57
          After all: "They fight not by numbers, but by skill!" Do you remember who said?


          so these words alone are not enough for victory, HOW WAS IT REALLY?
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      4. Zymran
        Zymran 24 December 2013 23: 45
        0
        In fact, the garrison did not count 35000 soldiers, but the entire population of the fortress, including non-combatants. Accordingly, the loss in 26 of thousands is not only soldiers, but also civilians.
        1. Horde
          Horde 25 December 2013 07: 11
          +1
          Quote: Zymran
          In fact, not the garrison numbered 35000 soldiers, but the entire population of the fortress,


          yes no buddy is GARNISON 35000 SOLDIER, maybe you have other information, then the link can be ...
      5. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 25 December 2013 11: 24
        0
        "Non-standard" losses? Very simple. This is Suvorov and his Miracle Heroes. The crossing of the Alps is no less amazing feat.
        And if I remember correctly, it was near Ishmael that ours built a copy of the Ishmael wall and trained?
      6. xan
        xan 25 December 2013 14: 38
        0
        Quote: Horde
        The MANY-day defenses of the Malakhov Kurgan of 1854-1855 in Sevastopol, when the artillery redoubts were bombarded for many days and kept on. And here such a powerful fortress fell almost no day ...

        The Russians repelled three assaults on Sevastopol, and not only with the fire of guns and rifles.
        The Turks were unable to repel the first assault of Ishmael, and no dirty hints were needed.
    6. CHILD
      CHILD 15 January 2014 01: 59
      0
      and what is the ratio of losses !!!!!! and this with STORM !!!!!! has something to be proud of))))
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 24 December 2013 08: 22
    +9
    "about the loud age of military disputes-
    witness to the glory of Russians "
    1. Yashka Gorobets
      Yashka Gorobets 24 December 2013 14: 18
      +7
      Suvorov brought us fame quite a few
  3. Christian
    Christian 24 December 2013 08: 23
    +7
    This holiday should be the answer to the overgrown ambitions of the Turks!
    1. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 25 December 2013 02: 57
      0
      There is no Suvorov, that’s naughty.
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  4. Ihrek
    Ihrek 24 December 2013 08: 41
    +15
    A brilliant victory. I think Suvorov, at least, is among the top 5 best commanders of all time.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 24 December 2013 08: 45
      +16
      Quote: Jamal
      at least one of the top 5

      He is simply the best! not a single defeat! But how did he drive the custodians in Italy? It's just a song soldier
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 24 December 2013 12: 40
        +12
        He drove all those who came across him. 23,09,1789 with 25 thousand, drove 100 thousand Turks with a napkin. Interesting losses: 20 thousand Turks against two hundred Russian soldiers. The truth is that 400 Austrians were killed, probably because they interfered with everyone.
      2. typhoon7
        typhoon7 24 December 2013 18: 13
        +5
        I agree, he has no equal and is not expected. Napoleon did not strictly exact from the generals the losers Suvorov.
        1. Bagatur
          Bagatur 24 December 2013 21: 38
          +1
          Yeah .. as General Massena said (the one who drove Suvorov through Alpi) "His Majesty does not like talking about this campaign .."
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 19: 50
            0
            Quote: bagatura
            Yeah .. as General Massena said (the one who drove Suvorov through Alpi) "His Majesty does not like talking about this campaign .."

            Read, dear, your phrase, place the punctuation marks correctly (these are quotes, commas, hyphens (dashes) and other "trifles"), which helps your opponent to comprehend all the depth (breadth, scope, talent, greatness) of your undoubtedly wise thoughts. Then, according to the execution of stylistic processing, it will be possible to understand: WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY ?!
    2. Fin
      Fin 24 December 2013 09: 25
      +15
      Quote: Jamal
      I think Suvorov, at least, is among the top 5 best commanders of all time.

      Four in front of him is not observed.
      1. nik6006
        nik6006 24 December 2013 10: 36
        +4
        The first one.
        I am proud of the Russian troops.
      2. nazgul-ishe
        nazgul-ishe 25 December 2013 03: 00
        0
        Yes, and after him, too.
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      4. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 20: 04
        0
        Quote: Fin
        Four in front of him is not observed.

        From those described by historians:
        1. Alexander Filippovich. In the aggregate of acts.
        2. Hannibal Barca. The first to overcome with the troops of the Alps. Virtually no combat clashes with local tribes.
        3. Guy Julius Caesar. The second overcame the Alps with troops, without major military clashes with the locals.
        4. Napoleon I. In the aggregate of acts.
        5. Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov. He overcame the Alps with constant military clashes with the French troops. No wonder the same Andre Massena, who managed to defend France, subsequently said that he would give all his 48 campaigns in 17 days of the Swiss campaign of Suvorov.
        Are you satisfied?
      5. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 20: 34
        0
        1. Alexander (Filippovich) of Macedon -in the aggregate of victories.
        2. Hannibal Barka, the first in winter to overcome the Alps with hired troops.
        3. Guy Julius Caesar, the second to overcome the Alps with his "invincible" legions.
        4. Napoleon I, who relied on the state power of the "First" republic.
        5. Alesander Vasilievich Suvorov, relying only on his miraculous heroes. No wonder Andre Massena, who managed to defend France, subsequently said that he would give all his 48 campaigns in 17 days of the Swiss campaign of Suvorov.
        The miraculous heroes of A.V. Suvorov had a two-pound daily meat portion during the campaign. Therefore, for example in the battle of Trebbia, Russian troops after more than 50 km. march on Italian sting immediately entered the oncoming battle and defeated the French. His miraculous heroes are a kind of "special forces" of the XNUMXth century - masters of hand-to-hand combat, cavalry-Cossacks of Ataman Matvey Ivanovich Platov, jaeger teams (snipers of that era) under the command of P.I.Bagration.
        Is it enough for you? I will not throw a rasping, like some on this site - like "learn history" ...
    3. yehat
      yehat 24 December 2013 10: 56
      -3
      you forget what the soldiers of Suvorov were like. Give him tonight, will he take the second Ishmael?
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 24 December 2013 11: 55
        +8
        Quote: yehat
        you forget what the soldiers of Suvorov were like. Give him tonight, will he take the second Ishmael?


        Suvorov? Will take! Do not even hesitate!
      2. nik6006
        nik6006 24 December 2013 14: 35
        +7
        Quote: yehat
        you forget what the soldiers of Suvorov were like. Give him tonight, will he take the second Ishmael?


        Empty tryndezh!
        A Russian soldier is always and at all times a soldier, and now too. But the leaders - I'm not sure that everything is like Suvorov.
      3. Viktor Shmagin
        Viktor Shmagin 24 December 2013 18: 35
        +1
        And remember the Pskov paratroopers, but they are no worse
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    5. ele1285
      ele1285 24 December 2013 12: 30
      0
      The Guinness Book of Records says that the only commander did not lose a single battle, A.V. Suvorov, but in my opinion also M. Skobelev too, although it's not about him.
  5. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 December 2013 08: 42
    +28
    PiSuvorov's letter to Prince of Coburg about the capture of Ishmael

    The garrison really consisted of 35000 armed people, although Seraskir received food for 42000. - We filled: the three-bunched Pasha Mustafi, 1 Sultan, the son of Seraskirov, Kapidzhi Bashu, many Bim Bashi and other Officials, only 9000 armed people, of whom in the same day 2000 died of wounds. - About 3000 Turkish women and children in the hands of the Victors. - There were 1400 Armenians, a total of 4285 Christians, and 135 Zhids. - During the assault killed up to 26000 Turks and Tatars, including Seraskir himself; 4 Pasha and 6 Sultans. “We got 245 guns and a mortar, all almost cast, 364 banners, seven bunchugs, two sandzhaks, a lot of gunpowder and other military shells, shops full of food supplies for people and horses.” - The booty obtained by our soldiers is valued above one million rubles. - The Turkish Flotilla, which stood under the Izmail batteries, was almost completely destroyed so that little was left of the vessels that could be eliminated and used on the Danube.
    We lost killed in the attack: 1 Brigadier, 17 Staff Officers, 46 Ober Officers, and 1816 privates. [150] Injured: three Major Generals, Count Bezborodko, Meknob and Lviv, about 200 Headquarters and Ober Officers, and 2445 privates.

    A great victory! and there have been many in all ages.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 24 December 2013 08: 56
      +10
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Ismo Suvorov to Prince of Coburg on the capture of Ishmael

      Pikul has a great description: "His proclamation was thrown to the Turks in Izmail. Suvorov once again warned that it is better for them to surrender:" Otherwise, it will be too late to help humanity, when not only no one, but also the women and innocent babies can not be spared from the irritated army, and for that no one, like you and all the officials (your), must give an answer before God ... "

      Seraskir’s answer has been preserved for history:

      - Rather, the Danube will reverse, rather than surrender Ishmael!

      Everything became clear. But in an order for the army, Suvorov strictly warned: “Christians cannot be deprived of life without arms, thinking the same about all women and children”
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 24 December 2013 09: 38
        +11
        Quote: andrei332809
        Pikul has a great description: "His proclamation was thrown to the Turks in Izmail. Suvorov once again warned that it is better for them to surrender:" Otherwise, it will be too late to help humanity, when not only no one, but also the women and innocent babies can not be spared from the irritated army, and for that no one, like you and all the officials (your), must give an answer before God ... "

        Pikul embellished a little, on 7 of December, at 2 of the afternoon, Suvorov sent the commandant of Ishmael a note: “To Seraskir, elders and the whole society: I arrived here with the troops. 24 hours of reflection for surrender and will; my first shots are already in captivity; storming death. What I leave for you to consider. ”
        "Storming Ishmael". Engraving by S.P.Shiflyar based on a full-scale sketch
        1. nik6006
          nik6006 24 December 2013 10: 40
          +10
          About how to respond in Russian, briefly and on the case. Well, for example, where we want there and put the Iskanders on our land!
        2. aleshka
          aleshka 24 December 2013 15: 47
          +2
          And Pikul says so!
      2. nik6006
        nik6006 24 December 2013 10: 38
        +2
        Very worthy and in Russian - "Christians and unarmed people should not be deprived of their lives, meaning the same about all women and children."
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 24 December 2013 08: 42
    +7
    from the Don.
    Izmail. A glorious page in the history of Russia! Suvorov, Kutuzov — these names sparkled among the generals!
  7. nemec55
    nemec55 24 December 2013 08: 44
    +3
    They glorified the glories of the Lyuli, now, the affairs of people glorified for centuries. And now grabbers, by their theft will be “glorified” for centuries.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 December 2013 08: 50
      +6
      Quote: nemec55
      .And now grabbers, by their theft will be “glorified” for centuries.

      And before that they didn’t steal, at all times it was, is and will be. They drink and steal, as was said, but they do not win the soldiers.
      1. Normal
        Normal 24 December 2013 10: 34
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        And before that they didn’t steal ...... They drink and steal, as was said, but they do not win the soldiers.

        They do not win, they LOSE wars. And if the thief is more important than generals, then the war will inevitably be lost.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 December 2013 11: 00
          +5
          Quote: Normal
          They do not win, they LOSE wars. And if the thief is more important than generals, then the war will inevitably be lost.

          then they stole from Napoleon, they also stole from Hitler, huh? And I almost forgot about the Japanese and the thieving Swedes wink
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 24 December 2013 11: 03
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Swedes almost forgot

            Well, this is already to the Baltic states wassat as there at Zadornov, you inadequately answered the Swedes near Poltava request
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 December 2013 12: 03
              +4
              Quote: andrei332809
              -you inadequately answered the Swedes near Poltava

              The ammunition must have been stolen laughing
              1. andrei332809
                andrei332809 24 December 2013 12: 08
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                The ammunition must have been stolen

                so tady okromya buckshot there was nothing request and, lied, they even used bows with arrows (according to the description, they shot away rifles)
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 20: 43
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                The ammunition must have been stolen

                By no means, shortly before the Battle of Poltava, Russian troops led by A.D. Menshikov in the battle at the village of Lesnoy defeated the Swedish convoy carrying gunpowder, bullets, cannonballs, bread, wine and other ammunition to Karl's brother, therefore, in the battle of Poltava, hungry Swedes did not have artillery, gunpowder and hoped for the wounded Charles XII and his luck.
          2. Normal
            Normal 24 December 2013 17: 35
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            ... then they stole from Napoleon, they also stole from Hitler, huh?

            The usual pro-government thieves DE-MA-GO-GI-Ya. They say that they steal everywhere, we have no more than they do, and the theft of bosses does not affect either morale or the desire for victory. We know - swam. Officers and warrant officers devoured the soldiers, and then resented the fact that the dead soldiers did not look brave.

            And what about Hitler and Napoleon? The conversation was about our thief. How does theft affect winning ability? The Germans and the French - I don’t know, and I don’t want to know, I don’t fight on their side. How about us? Yes, like this: if they steal at the very top, then everyone does the same, except for those who will not steal under any circumstances. And when theft becomes the norm, then there is no time or energy for anything else. There is no time for victory, to have time to snatch, but not to be taken away. The population is looking at the authorities falls into apathy. If the authorities need a country only in order to steal in it with impunity, then what should we put our heads for?
            And at one fine "moment, the state collapses and no one comes to its defense.
            The funny thing is that it was the thief who later shouted that the State Deputies and the fifth column had ruined the country. In fact, the main merit in the collapse belongs precisely to thieves, since the impunity of theft corrupts society, special services and the armed forces
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 13
              +3
              Quote: Normal
              And what about Hitler and Napoleon? The conversation was about our thief. How does theft affect winning ability?

              Well, they didn’t steal from Hitler, they didn’t steal from the Japanese and the Swedes, they didn’t steal, but they sold out warriors. Do not measure Russia under the rest of the world.
              Quote: Normal
              And at one fine "moment, the state collapses and no one comes to its defense.

              The state collapses either from lost warriors, or from the betrayal of the first persons-Gorbachev, or from the orange revolutions — your favorite marsh. You yourself tried to become part of the destruction of Russia, you just can’t understand or don’t want to.
              1. Normal
                Normal 25 December 2013 10: 24
                -2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                Well, they didn’t steal from Hitler, they didn’t steal from the Japanese and the Swedes, they didn’t steal, but they sold out warriors. Do not measure Russia under the rest of the world.

                You are a demagogue, Romanov, the Kremlin, pro-government thieves DE-MA-GOG. You yourself measure Russia under the Japanese and Swedes, shove it out of place of Hitler and Napoleon, and after that you will stipulate for me not to do what you are doing. At the festival of demagogues, you would be a member of the jury.
                If you use your inverted, perverted logic, then we won because the tops always stole from us, and the Germans, Swedes, French and Japanese lost to us wars because it was not customary to steal from them.
                But tell me, Alexander, did Suvorov steal? Allowed to steal his subordinates? Did he cover the theft of his associates?
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                The state collapses either from lost warriors, or from the betrayal of the first persons-Gorbachev, or from the orange revolutions — your favorite marsh. You yourself tried to become part of the destruction of Russia, you just can’t understand or don’t want to.

                Again demagoguery. Romanov, can you communicate with me nominally, and not as a minor? What are you talking about? A state collapses when both the upper and lower classes are no longer satisfied with this state. The tops begin to break, and the lower classes either approve or remain indifferent. Gorbachev and his comrades would not have done anything if he had not expressed at a certain stage the will of certain forces within himself
                THE USSR.
                The Orange Revolution does not lead to the destruction of the state, but merely changes the elites in power. UkrAina after the Orange Revolution did not break up, did not collapse and did not disappear. Your demagogy is contrary to reality.
                It is not trying to become a destroyer in the swamp. You’re the destroyer of both the USSR and Russia, because being the Kremlin pro-government thief’s demagogue, you justify the theft of the top, which corrodes the state from the inside. You are actually making excuses for the Kremlin thief protectors. You are objectively on the side of Chubais and Serdyukov. You are Kremlin, Romanov
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 15: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Normal
                  At the festival of demagogues, you would be a member of the jury.

                  Demagogy here .......
                  Quote: Normal
                  . And if the thief is more important than generals, then the war will inevitably be lost.

                  What forgot what wrote? Suvorov was a commander, as an example, who was Menshikov? Warriors do not win politicians, but soldiers and generals who do their duty. So the demagogue is you, bothering the bunch of corrupt tops and generals.
                  Quote: Normal
                  A state collapses when both the upper and lower classes are no longer satisfied with this state.

                  Give an example where in our time this happened without interference from outside.
                  Quote: Normal
                  Orange revolution does not lead to the destruction of the state

                  Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia, USSR.
                  Quote: Normal
                  You’re the destroyer of both the USSR and Russia, because being the Kremlin pro-government thief’s demagogue, you justify the theft of the top

                  Do you drink there or something?
                  Quote: Normal
                  You are actually making excuses for the Kremlin thief protectors. You are objectively on the side of Chubais and Serdyukov. You are Kremlin, Romanov

                  And yet, Navalny was right when he screamed at the swamp -Front rams. This is the only suitable word.
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 25 December 2013 22: 49
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    What forgot what wrote? Suvorov was a general, as an example, who was Menshikov?Warriors do not win politicians, but soldiers and commanders,who do their duty.

                    I didn’t forget what I wrote:
                    Normal (3) SU Yesterday, 10:34 ↑
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov

                    And before that they didn’t steal ...... They drink and steal, as was said, but the soldiers not they win.

                    Quote: Normal
                    They don't win they LOSE WAR. And if the thief is more important than generals, then the war will inevitably be lost

                    Why did you immediately get enraged as soon as your favorite Kremlin thief hit? Your logic is vile - let the commanders win, the soldiers die, but it is necessary to steal all one. After all, Menshikov stole and defeated (whom did Menshikov defeat there? And he would have won a lot there if it weren’t for Peter, who specifically beat him for theft. But your Kremlin thieves didn’t beat anyone for theft, except for those from another thieves' gang).
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Give an example where in our time this happened without interference from outside.

                    Are you, novels, ...... or pretending to be? What was outside interference in signing the Bialowieza Accords? What was the interference from outside when the leadership of Ukraine refused to sign the union agreement?
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia, USSR.

                    novels, have you smoked a little? How the Orange Revolution, as was known at UkrAin in 2004, led to the collapse of the USSR and Yugoslavia. And of course, during the Orange Revolution in Kiev, the Syrian opponents of Assad and the tribal opponents of Gaddafi, who were supported from the air by the French and US air forces wassat Stop scribbling novels, otherwise your brains will dry out.
                    And of course, the pro-Kremlin demagogue could not help but recall the swamp and bulk
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Navalny was right when he screamed at the swamp -Front rams. This is the only suitable word.

                    So still you were there, novels? laughing So it means that Navalny told you. That's right, novels, for pro-government is the most appropriate word.
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 December 2013 14: 09
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: nemec55
        .And now grabbers, by their theft will be “glorified” for centuries.
        And before that they didn’t steal, at all times it was, is and will be. They drink and steal, as was said, but they do not win the soldiers.

        Two hundred years ago, the historian Karamzin visited France. Russian emigrants asked him:
        - What, in a nutshell, is happening at home?
        Karamzin didn’t need two words.
        “They steal,” answered Karamzin ...
        hi
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 24 December 2013 17: 55
          +1
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          historian Karamzin

          corrected you a little karma.
          I do not want to offend, but are you aware that Karamzin wrote what customers paid for?
          so as not to be unfounded - "marfa posadnitsa" karamzinovskaya request and that Ivan was the third country to piece together ... where can I find out about this?
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 20: 48
          0
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          Two hundred years ago, the historian Karamzin visited France. Russian emigrants asked him:

          NOT to emigrants, but to Emperor Alexander I. Historical jokes are an interesting thing, but the first emigrant is Herzen.
      3. alex popov
        alex popov 24 December 2013 20: 21
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And before that they didn’t steal, at all times it was, is and will be. They drink and steal, as was said, but they do not win the soldiers.

        Osipov wrote an excellent book about Suvorov. There, including written about theft and nepotism in those days. And really. And they stole and drank. By the way, the drunkards Suvorov could not stand, but the thieving quartermasters who supplied rotten fodder and missing products, which made the soldiers sick, including flogging ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 December 2013 07: 15
          0
          Quote: alex popov
          . And they stole and drank.

          And the warriors pulled out
  8. evgenm55
    evgenm55 24 December 2013 08: 46
    +4
    Congratulations, comrades, with another holiday of Russian arms! On this day, it is necessary to broadcast radio and television to the Turks and Bulgarians in the right angle all day, so that the former would not forget whom they began to poke around, and the latter - who constantly saved them from the massacre and how they once again betrayed the "brothers". And, in general, the article could have been done in more detail and in more detail.
  9. Siberian19
    Siberian19 24 December 2013 08: 49
    +5
    Suvorov made great Russia from Russia !!! the number of victories and the balance of power are fantastic!
  10. realist
    realist 24 December 2013 08: 55
    +5
    these are the holidays that should be celebrated, and it’s not clear what independence, in August, it seems
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 December 2013 09: 05
      +4
      I also wonder who we are dependent on?
      1. nazgul-ishe
        nazgul-ishe 25 December 2013 03: 09
        0
        It’s not us but THEY now do not depend on us — what they want and do. And now they steal without hiding.
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  11. Stiletto
    Stiletto 24 December 2013 09: 09
    +3
    Yes, there were people in our time ... good
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 24 December 2013 12: 22
      +5
      Quote: Stiletto
      Yes, there were people nowadays.

      Do you remember, ah, your nobleness,
      Monsieur Frenchman, g ... captain,
      As we remember in common people
      Victory over the unchrist of the Russians?
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?

      Do you remember how beyond the mountains of Suvorov
      Having stepped over, attacked you by surprise?
      How our old man ruffled you, flayer,
      And crushed you on the nail, like a flea?
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?

      Do you remember how I drove all of Europe
      Are we alone with your Bonaparte Buyan?
      We saw many French then ...,
      Yes, and yours, g ...... captain!
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?

      Do you remember how your king burns
      Suddenly stupefied, like a tambourine goal and bald,
      Like on fire of a Moscow fire
      Did you fry our rats in Moscow?
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?

      Do you remember the fake songwriter
      You, our frost among native snow
      And the batteries are a perky heater,
      Soldier bayonet and noose Cossacks?
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?

      Do you remember how we were in Paris
      Where is our cossack il regimental our pop
      He fooled you, sat down closer to the wine,
      And yes, praised your wives ...?
      Though it’s not a lot to us,
      We are not among the others, so to speak;
      But we’ve punished you severely,
      Do you remember, say ......?
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 24 December 2013 12: 25
        +2
        Andrei, an extremely good, life-affirming work. hi Oh, if not a point laughing
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 24 December 2013 12: 27
          +2
          Quote: Stiletto
          Oh, if not a point

          Yes, find in tyrnete. There is no space, it's Pushkin !!!
          1. Stiletto
            Stiletto 24 December 2013 12: 42
            +3
            Quote: andrei332809
            Yes, find in tyrnete. There is no space, it's Pushkin !!!


            Yes, I know, of course. Just, you see, in the original transcription such texts are always better read))))
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 24 December 2013 12: 52
              +3
              Quote: Stiletto
              in the original transcription t

              our site has grown over by the most indulge bully
              1. Stiletto
                Stiletto 24 December 2013 13: 14
                +2
                Quote: andrei332809

                our site has grown over by the most indulge bully



                Shhh !!! Do not chat! Construct for criticism! laughing
                1. andrei332809
                  andrei332809 24 December 2013 13: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: Stiletto
                  Construct for criticism!

                  yah you tongue so 3 warnings (in my opinion, out of the blue)
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 24 December 2013 09: 09
    +4
    Suvorov is the only commander whose authority is beyond doubt, so many battles and not a single defeat from the enemy.
  13. Yves762
    Yves762 24 December 2013 09: 14
    +1
    IMHO, such dates should be marked / illuminated with the imperative: "Ancestors did it, and what can you, descendants, present to their memory ???" So somehow ...
  14. waisson
    waisson 24 December 2013 09: 14
    +2
    - Yes, there were people in our time,
    Not that the present tribe:
    Bogatyri - not you!
  15. Auditor
    Auditor 24 December 2013 09: 20
    +3
    Great people, great victory !!
  16. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 24 December 2013 09: 26
    +4
    In July 1787, Turkey, using the support of Great Britain, France and Prussia, demanded the return of Crimea from Russia.-and ... remind DIPLOMATIC WAYthat there is no need to "annoy" Russia, they will.A WAR OF RUSSIA- UNBEATABLE! soldier
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 December 2013 09: 57
      +3
      Yes, but how many times our Tsar Fathers, with one stroke of the pen, gave away everything that the army conquered with great blood
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 20: 59
      +1
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      .A WAR OF RUSSIA- UNBEATABLE!

      War is a process. The process cannot be invincible. The process can only end.
      Warriors of Russia - persons ensuring the invincibility of Russia.
      I am at a loss from your disorderly permanent illiteracy. I would like to ask you a question: did you study the following discipline at school: "Russian language" (phonetics, spelling, syntax)? Or was it an optional subject for you and your kind?
  17. Poppy
    Poppy 24 December 2013 10: 08
    +2
    Enemy losses amounted to about 26000 killed. 9000 Turks were captured. As trophies Suvorov got all 265 guns that were in the fortress, as well as 42 ships. The total number of Russian losses - 4582 person.

    due to what is the loss ratio? why did the attackers lose many times less than the defenders?
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 December 2013 10: 11
      +4
      Because Suvorov is a genius
    2. Normal
      Normal 24 December 2013 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: Poppy

      due to what is the loss ratio? why did the attackers lose many times less than the defenders?

      Due to excellence in the quality of soldiers and commanders. Well, as you know, sheep are cut.
      1. yehat
        yehat 24 December 2013 11: 10
        +4
        Not only.
        firstly, each soldier knew his maneuver, as in the Wehrmacht, Suvorov drove a soldier in the assault on the layout of the defense of Izmail
        secondly, the siege tactics were unusual and almost leveled the advantages of the defenders.
        thirdly, the Turks had far from the best soldiers in the garrison.
        In particular, they completely lost the fire duel.
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      3. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 24 December 2013 11: 32
        +2
        The French are also rams
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      5. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 24 December 2013 14: 07
        +3
        Enemy losses amounted to about 26000 killed. 9000 Turks were captured. As trophies Suvorov got all 265 guns that were in the fortress, as well as 42 ships. The total number of Russian losses is 4582 people.

        And it would seem an axiom that the losses of the attacking side on organized defense are always higher than the losses of the defenders. That's Suvorov and the genius of war.
      6. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 24 December 2013 14: 17
        +5
        Quote: Normal
        Due to excellence as soldiers and commanders

        A little remark.
        Major General Kutuzov led an assault column on the left flank. Together with the soldiers he overcame the ditch, climbed the shaft and was in the thick of hand-to-hand combat (he had no eyes by that time). When the Turks counterattacked and the situation was difficult, he asked Suvorov for reinforcements, to which Suvorov replied that he had already sent a report to Petersburg that Izmail had fallen and Kutuzov had been appointed commandant of the fortress. Kutuzov repulsed the attack of the Turks and captured the bastion. After the fight, Kutuzov asked Suvorov why he congratulated him on his appointment as commandant, when the situation was completely unclear. "Suvorov knows Kutuzov, and Kutuzov knows Suvorov," the answer followed. “If Ishmael had not been taken, we would both have died under his walls.”
      7. smile
        smile 24 December 2013 16: 40
        +16
        Normal
        I would like to speak a little about the Turks ...

        Turks have always and for all been very serious opponents.
        The Turks were able to destroy the great Byzantine empire, undermined the power of Persia - a very aggressive and powerful state, seize all of North Africa, the entire Middle East, enter Central Asia, the Caucasus, invade Europe, take and enslave the Balkans.
        For several centuries they terrified Europe. Do you believe that they bought rams and everything won in the store? Or did the kids resist them?

        They were not just a serious, but a very serious adversary. The fighting capacity of the Janissary corps until the age of 18 was one of the highest in the world, legends spoke of their fearlessness, fighting spirit and military skill, and they frightened the children, European monarchs and military leaders turned pale from the mention of the Anatolian cavalry - starting from the knightly cavalry of the era of the Crusades to the 18th century. Yes, and in World War I, the Turks. having been defeated by us, the teeth of the French and English were knocked out with a bang. who tried to capture the Dardanelles - with the overwhelming technical superiority of Europeans.

        Just our commanders and soldiers were stronger. But do not call the Turks rams - this way you belittle the merits of our ancestors.
        1. alone
          alone 24 December 2013 21: 06
          +2
          hi No comment! Vladimir, you are absolutely right! good
        2. Bagatur
          Bagatur 24 December 2013 21: 47
          +2
          Hi Vladimir!

          Well, I saw you))) In full agreement, the Turks are a very serial opponent! In the same war they beat the Austrians well, they knowingly made a separate peace! It is true that the Enichar and Spagi in 1790 was far from the best form, but ... The Turks knew darts, there was also fanatic fanaticism .. If they didn’t know how, their empire had not stood for 500 years!
          1. smile
            smile 24 December 2013 22: 59
            0
            Bagatur
            Hello, Nikolai! Yes, you’re right, including that by that time, the Janissaries are sorry, they simply snickered, earned privileges from the Sultans and became no longer what they were a hundred years ago. Yes, and the Turks have lagged behind in the technical part. Nevertheless, the Turks remained a formidable force.

            Nikolay, I’ll answer your letter tomorrow, okay?
        3. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 21: 10
          +1
          Quote: smile
          Turks. having been defeated by us, the teeth of the French and English were knocked out with a bang. who tried to capture the Dardanelles - with the overwhelming technical superiority of Europeans.

          They spoke out correctly. The real enemy must not be underestimated - it is fraught with getting a knockout at the most inopportune moment! Like the British in the Dardanelles operation of 1915 from Mustafa Kemal and his heroic askers.
    3. xan
      xan 25 December 2013 14: 47
      0
      Quote: Poppy
      due to what is the loss ratio? why did the attackers lose many times less than the defenders?

      the main Russian losses in the fight at the bastions, and the Turkish during the massacre in the city. The Turks had to give up after the loss of the bastions, but they decided to die.
  18. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 24 December 2013 10: 14
    +2
    Russia is a great country. No one could conquer us. Yes, there was 300 years of yoke. But still we knocked him over. And now the Democratic embezzlers are tearing the country to pieces. The capture of Ishmael is a great part of the Russian victories under the command of Suvorov. I would like to have my own Suvorovs, Kutuzovs and Nakhimovs in the MoD now. For which he takes only pride, and not a feeling of resentment for the humiliation of the country.
  19. andrei332809
    andrei332809 24 December 2013 10: 27
    +7
    old (button accordion), but such stories should live forever


    US Marine Corps: I would never want the Russians to seriously fight with us. It may be unpatriotic, but I feel that they’ll definitely kick our ass
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 24 December 2013 10: 59
      +3
      The lieutenant feels right
    2. Bagatur
      Bagatur 24 December 2013 21: 50
      +3
      Mdaaa ... UTB does not bomb the native somewhere in Asia! I can never imagine the Yankees near Stalingrad for example! They even in 1944 believed that 10x1 for them was a very unfavorable ratio against the Wehrmacht ...
  20. major071
    major071 24 December 2013 10: 34
    +14
    Glory to the Russian soldiers!
  21. ed65b
    ed65b 24 December 2013 10: 41
    +5
    The brilliant answer of the Slav to the Turks of all stripes. We will beat and beat.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 21: 18
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      Turks of all stripes. We will beat and beat.

      Dear, there are Turks and there are Turks. There are Russians and there are Russians. Do not confuse fresh with sour and soft with liquid. Nikolai Nikolayevich Yudenich took Erzurum in February 1916. His troops were not only Russians.
  22. vlad_krimean
    vlad_krimean 24 December 2013 10: 55
    +8
    With such an assault, and the loss ratio? !!! Great commander!
  23. Vitlek
    Vitlek 24 December 2013 11: 10
    +5
    Glorious date, why nowhere but there is not even a mention here? Thanks V.O.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 24 December 2013 12: 55
      +3
      Political correctness, sir. Soon, the Battle of Kulikovo due to political correctness will not be remembered.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 24 December 2013 19: 50
        0
        Quote: Mairos
        Soon the Battle of Kulikovo

        September XNUMX
  24. broneboy1
    broneboy1 24 December 2013 12: 24
    -13%
    Dumb site of course. But I like that here they print about the great historical victories of Russia. For which we have such a territory. Great, great story. About which scum at school do not teach.
    1. SergBrNord
      SergBrNord 24 December 2013 13: 19
      +5
      Well, my friend .. If the site that publishes various articles on historical and military topics is dumb, then which one is not, I'm afraid to ask?
    2. smile
      smile 24 December 2013 16: 49
      +3
      broneboy1
      Some kind of dullness appears when commentators like you appear - you can make the site perfect - without any dumbness - remove your dumb comments and everything will be in openwork. :))
      By the way, if you imagine that Suvorov’s deeds are not studied at school, then you are not just dumb, you are also a deliberate liar, because you simply cannot reach such a degree of stupidity. :)))
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 24 December 2013 16: 59
        0
        Quote: smile
        l when there are commentators like you

        did not expect the right word belay why in tyrnet answer dyp if you can’t give the opponent in person?
        1. smile
          smile 24 December 2013 17: 28
          +4
          andrei332809
          I never face opponents, and I use extreme caution in the use of physical violence; I use them only in cases where they leave me no other choice.

          And why didn’t they expect it? I confess I did not understand. This comrade insulted all of us, while unreasonably hinting at his chosenness. I despise such people and do not consider it necessary to hide it.
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 24 December 2013 17: 43
            0
            Quote: smile
            I confess I did not understand.

            I'm used to being politely your hobby request
            1. smile
              smile 24 December 2013 18: 26
              0
              andrei332809
              Alas, I am quite intolerant. You had an overly high opinion of me. Sometimes I am very harsh in statements, and unnecessarily ... sometimes unnecessarily sarcastic. It’s not very happy to disappoint you, but what has grown. it has grown.
              1. andrei332809
                andrei332809 24 December 2013 18: 29
                0
                Quote: smile
                but what has grown. it has grown.

                don't praise yourself tongue
              2. andrei332809
                andrei332809 24 December 2013 19: 02
                0
                Quote: smile
                sometimes too sarcastic

                sorry, didn’t notice request and you will be rude to me, not NECESSARY
                1. smile
                  smile 24 December 2013 19: 08
                  +1
                  andrei332809
                  But what are you, I’m not going to be rude to you for anything - I’ll say, as you can, it’s very scary ... :)))
                  1. andrei332809
                    andrei332809 24 December 2013 19: 42
                    0
                    I always forgive you drinks
                    but a comrade from the bottom? * ???? what right
                    Snotty you still.

                    he has? Or does he know mnu?
                    1. smile
                      smile 24 December 2013 19: 46
                      +1
                      andrei332809
                      Well, thanks for the indulgence. :)))

                      And you made a mistake about nik6006, he said it to broneboy1 - if you press the virtual "up" arrow located to the right of the time the comment appeared, you can see who the comment is addressed to.
                      1. andrei332809
                        andrei332809 24 December 2013 19: 59
                        0
                        Quote: smile
                        And about nik6006 you were mistaken,

                        and I wanted to tell him everything recourse and send far request
                      2. nik6006
                        nik6006 25 December 2013 13: 46
                        +1
                        don't send me drinks I'm not guilty!
                      3. andrei332809
                        andrei332809 25 December 2013 13: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: nik6006
                        don't send me

                        I will not drinks
                  2. andrei332809
                    andrei332809 24 December 2013 20: 22
                    +1
                    why doesn’t anyone believe that I can kill? request
                  3. smile
                    smile 24 December 2013 23: 07
                    0
                    andrei332809
                    Yes, we believe, we believe - this is not a tricky business ... :)))) But, you see, on the Internet, it’s still difficult ... :)))
                    And if ever this becomes possible, humanity will die out in a day ... :))))
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 25 December 2013 14: 58
      0
      Quote: smile
      This comrade insulted all of us, while unreasonably hinting at his chosenness. I despise such people and do not consider it necessary to hide it.

      Hto ?! am Hde?!?! wassat Submit it here !!! fellow For the "chosenness" in front of me will be personally responsible! angry
      laughing laughing laughing
  • nik6006
    nik6006 24 December 2013 18: 55
    +1
    Snotty you still. You have to beat.
  • garlik
    garlik 24 December 2013 13: 00
    +4
    Eternal Glory to the Russian soldiers of all time! love
  • CALL.
    CALL. 24 December 2013 14: 47
    +4
    Peter the Great in “The Military Article” begins chapter XIV “On the Capture of Cities, Fortresses, Loots and Prisoners” by restricting the objects of robbery even after the assault. “Art. 104. When the city or fortress is taken by storm, then no one dares, although the upper or lower ranks, churches, schools or other spiritual houses, hospitalized without permission and decree to rob or smash, unless the garrisons or citizens in it surrender slow and great harm will be repaired. Whoever transgresses against this will seem like a robber, namely, he will be deprived of a stomach. Art. 105. Also has a female gender, infants, priests and old people are spared to be, and are not killed, they are offended below (except that another one from the field marshal will be ordered) under the death penalty. Sense. For they or their impossibilities or their rank for the sake of Nikakov’s rifle do not have with them, and yet this honor cannot be obtained, they cannot be killed, which they cannot defend. ” In the understanding of Russian, prey should not be a sin, and Peter already forbids to rob churches by the fear of death, and the English - French, and a century and a half later, taking Sevastopol, not only looted all the churches, but did not hesitate to open the graves of admirals Lazarev, Nakhimov and Kornilov, to tear off golden epaulettes from their uniforms. What can you take from them - a civilized Europe! He understands a lot about robberies!
  • CALL.
    CALL. 24 December 2013 14: 48
    +5
    50 years after Peter's "Article of the military" A.V. Suvorov, adjusting himself to the soldier’s language, explains in his “Science of Victory” how a soldier should behave in this matter. “Don’t offend the average man, he feeds us and feeds us; a soldier is not a robber. Holy booty! Take the camp, all yours. Take the fortress, all yours. In Izmail, among other things, they shared gold and silver handfuls. So in many places - by no means do not go to prey! ... Storm. Break through the barriers, throw the wattle fence through the wolf pits, run fast, jump through the palisades, throw the fascines, go down the moat, put the stairs. Arrows clean columns, shoot at the heads. Columns fly through the wall onto the shaft, cleave, draw a line on the shaft, guard to the powder cellars, open the gates of the cavalry. The enemy flees to the city! Turn his cannons at him, shoot hard at the streets, bombard lively. Order: get down to the city, cut the enemy in the streets. Cavalry, cut it. Do not go to houses. Hit the squares. Storm where the enemy has settled. Occupy the square, set guardhouses, instantly arrange pickets to the gates, cellars, shops. Did the enemy give up? - Have mercy! Is the wall busy? “To get it!” Suvorov, for the better memorization of these rules by the soldiers, wrote them in telegraph style - only the final provisions without explanation. And the essence of these provisions is simple. Mining is an incentive, but it should not interfere with the command and control of troops: "... by no means do not go to mining!" The second one. You can rob only those who do not give up, you can’t give up: “Has the enemy surrendered? “Have mercy!” And only if the city has to be taken by storm, then it is allowed to rob it: “Is the wall occupied?” “To get it!” And civilians in villages past which Russian troops pass cannot be robbed at all (“do not offend the average man”). There is also military expediency - fodder and food were bought from the average man (“he feeds and watered us”), and if you begin to rob the average man, he will run away and the army will be hungry. The Russian army, like the others, consisted of soldiers and officers, including generals. Meanwhile, Suvorov does not write that if you take a camp or a fortress, then everything will be “ours”, Suvorov writes “all yours”, that is, all the booty belongs only to the soldiers. When “in Izmail, apart from anything else, gold and silver were divided into handfuls,” neither officers nor generals set up their handfuls. And this is the sharp difference between the Russian army and the rest (say, the same British fleet), in which the main production went to officers and generals. And what is the officer’s booty for? He has a large salary from the king, he has an estate, he has serfs. What other prey? Nakhimov once asked the English admiral, “When was he truly happy. “Oh,” said the Englishman, “I have been happy since the day when, after the Napoleonic Wars, we shared prizes on our flagship and I got a full million pounds.” What kind of happiness, if you think about it? How many enemy transports had to be burned, how many people were killed in order for one admiral to receive 1000000 pounds in payment! And what did his subordinates get ?! Have mercy! This is conceivable only in a robbery state ... It would be flattering to go to fight with the enemy when your ships are on alert, when you are confident in your officers and teams. Yes, I understand that! When, after a glorious victory, you can proudly say that you have fulfilled your duty!
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 24 December 2013 15: 53
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    Perhaps the best assault on the fortress in the history of wars is struck by the lack of numerical superiority among the Russians with a huge amount of artillery among the defenders.
  • Borough
    Borough 24 December 2013 17: 12
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    The losses of the enemy amounted to about 26000 killed, the total number of Russian losses - 4582 people.
    with this ratio, excellent tactics
    1. Vadim2013
      Vadim2013 24 December 2013 20: 29
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      A.V.Suvorov sought excellent training and education of soldiers and officers.
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  • Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 24 December 2013 17: 18
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    after the assault, the great serasker Aidozla-Memet Pasha tore all the hair on his ass from annoyance, and MI Kutuzov was appointed in his place
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 21: 25
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      Quote: Panikovsky
      Aydozla-Memet Pasha tore out of frustration on the ass all the wool, and in its place Kutuzov M.I. was appointed

      Read what you write!
  • vm68dm
    vm68dm 24 December 2013 17: 25
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    **** “Rather, the sky will fall to the earth, and the Danube will flow upward, than Ishmael will surrender.” ***** --How they were naive !!!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 24 December 2013 18: 22
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      Quote: vm68dm
      How naive they were !!!

      so the Greeks are then full and freed
      1. vm68dm
        vm68dm 24 December 2013 20: 00
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        We know! And always remember! hi
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 21: 28
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          Quote: vm68dm
          And always remember!

          Did you teach Russian at school? Who or what is going to remember?
  • Smirnov Vadim
    Smirnov Vadim 24 December 2013 18: 37
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    Check the comments
  • nnz226
    nnz226 24 December 2013 19: 14
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    A brilliant commander! He was in his museum in St. Petersburg, there is a relief map of his Swiss campaign. Anyone who claims to have a high army rank - the task of leading troops along this route without climbing equipment, can be without battles. Will be able to - something worthy. And then in the Papuans generalissimo divorced like cockroaches ...
    1. Bagatur
      Bagatur 24 December 2013 21: 53
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      And in 1999 didn’t do any kind of trek along the steps of a miracle hero? Celebrated the anniversary as something ... sting if missed!
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  • Arh
    Arh 24 December 2013 20: 01
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    December 24 is the Day of the military glory of Russia - the Day of the capture of the Turkish fortress Izmail by Russian troops under the command of A.V. Suvorov.
    1. cobalt
      cobalt 24 December 2013 21: 20
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      In addition to this wonderful video, I want to add that one of the ideas of Suvorov's headquarters was the decision to concentrate on one of the breakthrough areas a large group of rangers, at that time "sniper shooters" fighting in loose formation, only about 500 fighters. With their shots, they shot most of the Turks in the fortress sector, which allowed the troops to climb it with small losses and take possession of it. A very correct decision, Suvorov is great.
  • Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 24 December 2013 20: 15
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    Glory to A.V.Suvorov. Was at his grave in Leningrad in the Holy Trinity Alexander Nevsky Lavra in 1976
  • vm68dm
    vm68dm 24 December 2013 20: 29
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    Quote: vm68dm
    We know! And always remember! hi
    Yes, here's another -
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 December 2013 09: 52
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      The video liked the way the soldiers were greeted.
      good
      And I didn’t like how the system went. The drill training of the banner group is generally no more than three with a minus (at least they kept pace). Yes, for such a reception of residents, you can and should try to march. And not so - only officers march normally. And why are the banners folded? Shy? Afraid of someone?
      negative
      When he quit urgently, in front of us, our unit under the Farewell of the Slav on the parade ground was a hundred times better.
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  • Cristall
    Cristall 24 December 2013 20: 39
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    he is a genius ... even from a young age he loved battles very much .. slept with soldiers, loved porridge ..
    I remember (E Pugachev book) it was still written about him as he begged the company by cunning and let's bring a rustle .. he was cunning. Youth then grew-Rumyantsev, Suvorov and others.
    They all started with the Germans being beaten ...
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      alone 24 December 2013 21: 08
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      Quote: Cristall
      he is a genius ... even from a young age he loved battles very much .. slept with soldiers, loved porridge ..


      What can not be said about the current generals)) probably already forgotten when they had lunch for the last time in the soldiers ’canteen))
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  • vm68dm
    vm68dm 25 December 2013 00: 40
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    Historical and biographical film about the great commander Alexander Suvorov, who confirmed the glory of Russian weapons in the era of the reign of Paul I.
    - Stalin Prize I degree Cherkasov (Sergeev) N.P., Khanov A.A., Livanov B.N., Pudovkin V.I., Doller M.I. (1941)
  • Ingvar51
    Ingvar51 25 December 2013 01: 57
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    The Ukrainian Cossacks also participated in the assault. They fought honestly. Unfortunately, losses could be smaller. The assault was supposed to start suddenly, but two Ukrainian Cossacks decided to earn extra money and ran to the Turks, informing them of the time of the assault.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 25 December 2013 21: 41
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      Quote: Ingvar51
      two Ukrainian Cossacks decided to earn extra money and ran to the Turks, informing them of the time of the assault

      Probably your relatives were, since you remember this unfortunate incident. That's all the guys have under foreign flags with tricks ... The Ukrainians have already appeared. Remember, then, for the completeness of the happiness of the Cossacks-Nekrasovites, who swore allegiance to the Turkish Sultan, unfold, so to speak, the topic ... by the French, by the way). Once again, a Russian soldier led by a brilliant commander did the IMPOSSIBLE by European standards. This example is a science for us, an example for the younger generations!
      1. Ingvar51
        Ingvar51 25 December 2013 23: 56
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        I don’t quite understand where the catch is here. This is a statement of fact. This betrayal led to an increase in losses among the Cossacks as well. Probably, we are talking about your ancestors since this fact offended you. I definitely haven’t been there, since I’m from Yaitsk (Ural) Cossacks.
      2. Ingvar51
        Ingvar51 25 December 2013 23: 56
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        I don’t quite understand where the catch is here. This is a statement of fact. This betrayal led to an increase in losses among the Cossacks as well. Probably, we are talking about your ancestors since this fact offended you. I definitely haven’t been there, since I’m from Yaitsk (Ural) Cossacks.
      3. Cossack23
        Cossack23 26 December 2013 13: 58
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        learn the history of the Cossacks always in the forefront — and without the Cossacks this country would still measure the golden ring — respect those whom your ancestors thanked with the famine and thousands of mass graves.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 26 December 2013 07: 37
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    The assault of Izmail - the siege and assault in 1790 of the Turkish fortress of Izmail by Russian troops under the command of General-General A.V.Suvorov during the Russo-Turkish war of 1787-1791

    The assault on Izmail in 1790 was undertaken by order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Southern Army, Field Marshal G. A. Potemkin. Neither N. V. Repnin (1789), nor I. V. Gudovich, nor P. S. Potemkin (1790) could solve this problem, after which G. A. Potemkin entrusted the operation to A. V. Suvorov.

    Arriving on December 2 (13) near Izmail, Suvorov spent six days preparing for the assault, including training the troops to storm the models of the high walls of Izmail. Near Izmail, in the area of ​​the present village of Safyany, earthen and wooden analogues of the ditch and walls of Izmail were built as soon as possible - the soldiers trained to throw ditches on the fascist, quickly set the stairs, after climbing the wall they quickly chopped and chopped the stuffed animals that imitated the defenders. Suvorov inspected the teachings and was generally satisfied: his proven troops did everything right. But, of course, he understood the complexity of the assault and its unpredictability. Even in the early days of the siege, only after arriving near Izmail, Suvorov, inconspicuously dressed and on a lousy horse (so as not to attract the attention of the Turks), accompanied by only one orderly, traveled around the perimeter of the fortress. The conclusion was disappointing: “A fortress without weak spots,” were his words to the headquarters based on the results of its inspection. Many years later, Suvorov repeatedly confessed about Ishmael in a fit of frankness: “One could decide to storm such a fortress only once in a lifetime ...”. Shortly before the assault, Suvorov sent in Suvorov an extremely short and clear ultimatum letter to the head of the fortress, the great serasker Aidozle-Mehmet Pasha: “I arrived here with the troops. Twenty-four hours to think - and the will. My first shot is already bondage. The assault is death. ” The answer of the great serasker was worthy: "Rather, the Danube will flow back and the sky will fall to the ground, than Izmail will surrender." It was clear to Suvorov and his headquarters: the Turks would die, all the more so since the firman of the Sultan was known, where he promised to execute everyone who left the fortress of Izmail - the remains of the Turkish troops defeated in Bessarabia gathered in Izmail, whom the sultan actually sentenced for his failures or died with honor in battle with the Russians, or with shame from their executioners. For two days, Suvorov conducted artillery preparation, and on December 11 (22) at 5 a.m. the assault on the fortress began. By 30 o’clock in the morning, all the fortifications were occupied, but the resistance in the city streets lasted until 8 o’clock.

    Turkish losses amounted to 29 thousand people killed. The losses of the Russian army amounted to 4 thousand people killed and 6 thousand wounded. All guns were captured, 400 banners, huge supplies of food and jewelry for 10 million piastres. M.I. Kutuzov, in the future the famous commander, the winner of Napoleon, was appointed commandant of the fortress.
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  • smart ass
    smart ass 26 December 2013 07: 40
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    An attempt to pull back Ishmael was made by Kaplan Girey, the brother of the Crimean Khan. He gathered several thousand horse and foot Tatars and Turks and led them to meet the advancing Russians. The Tatars escaped from the fortress in the area of ​​the Kiliysky Gates (on the site of M.I. Kutuzov), but Suvorov introduced a reserve - rangers, who quickly pushed the Tatars into the coastal meadows. Then there was already practically no battle, but the destruction of the horde of the last heirs of the glories of Genghis Khan and Batu: standing knee-deep or even in the water and mud fought almost exclusively with melee weapons: it was impossible to reload the musket in the swamp. The huntsmen surrounded the Tatars with a ring on all sides, although it was much more convenient to act with a bayonet in a swamp than a saber from a horse. The Suvorov huntsmen acted traditionally brutally, mercilessly and professionally, as the Nogai horde in the Kuban had previously been destroyed: they did not take prisoners of the Tatars, but killed everyone with a barrage of quick, terrible and inexorable bayonet strikes. Fighting frantically, the Tatars had no chance to survive - the Tatars escaping into the floodplains were killed every single one, death in the Danube floodplains, where the buildings of the Izmail Shipyard are now located, were met by Kaplan Girey and his five sons.