As Soviet pilots bombed the largest air base in Japan

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As Soviet pilots bombed the largest air base in Japan


At that very moment, when the outlines of the island flashed in the breaks in the clouds, the 28 heavy-loaded SB bomber with the identification marks of the Chinese Air Force muffled the engines and simultaneously went down. Ahead of the course, the panorama of Taipei opened, and three kilometers to the north - the peaceful Matsuyama airfield.

Japanese air base on about. Formosa (Taiwan) served as the main transportation hub and rear base of the Imperial Air Force fighting in China. Matsuyama Air Base, located far beyond the front line, was considered invulnerable to the Chinese aviation: reinforcements arrived here and new samurai squadrons were manned here. Aircraft delivered directly by sea. Brand new planes arrived in crates, which were neatly loaded onto the shore and delivered to the hangars of the air base; there they were final assembled and circled before sending the cars deep into mainland China. At the airbase, large stocks of spare parts, ammunition and aviation fuel were concentrated (according to some information, a three-year supply of fuel and lubricants intended for combat operations in China).

... And a group of Chinese bombers had already laid down on the combat course. Before the eyes of the pilots, the territory of a huge airbase was growing up — red circles on the wings of two-rowed aircraft were already distinguishable. Chinese pilot Fyn Po looked around and noted with satisfaction that not a single enemy fighter had yet risen into the air. Anti-aircraft guns were silent: the Japanese clearly did not expect a raid and took them for their own. The plane swayed slightly. The pilots watched the dropped bombs and managed to see how the fountains of explosions broke out in the middle of the parking lot. “Well done, I got Fedoruk,” flashed through my head when Phyn Po drove away with a car going down towards the sea. And the following groups headed by Yakov Prokofyev and Vasily Klevtsov came to the target. The Japanese air base was hiding behind a dense veil of smoke, anti-aircraft guns cracked in impotent rage, trying to reach the planes leaving for the North. Not a single Japanese fighter managed to get up to intercept - on that day, February 23 1938, General Fyn Po and his loyal comrades burned down the largest Japanese Matsuyama airbase.


View of the modern Songshan Airport from the Taipei 101 skyscraper.
This place was bombed by our pilots in 1938 year.

The raid had a deafening effect: the planes of the Chinese Air Force, guided by Soviet pilots, brought down high-explosive and incendiary bombs on the 280 airfield. On the ground, more than 40 prepared aircraft were destroyed, many sets of aircraft and most airfield equipment were destroyed. The governor of the Japanese province of Taihoku (Taiwan) was removed from his post. The commandant of the airfield, like an honest samurai, made himself a seppuku. Panic began in Tokyo - it was decided that Chiang Kai-shek had strategic and naval aviation, which could affect Japanese plans and influence the outcome of the war.

Bombers sat, having committed an unprecedented in stories The 7-hour air raid over a range of over 1000 km, without fighter cover, successfully replenished at a secret aerodrome of hop and returned to Hankow in the evening without a single loss. To ensure maximum range, the entire flight took place in the most economical mode, in discharged air - at an altitude of more than 5000 meters. Without oxygen masks, in the mode of complete radio silence - with the full voltage of human strength and capabilities of technology.

Upon arrival, General Fyn Po (captain Fyodor Polynin) reported to the Air Force commander on the successful completion of the raid. Soon the Chinese comrades organized a chifan (banquet) in honor of the Soviet pilots, which was attended by the top leadership of the Kuomintang.

“As a team leader, Sun Mei-ling (wife of Chiang Kai-shek) was seated next to me. She proclaimed the first toast to Soviet volunteer airmen, for the successful raid of our bombers on the enemy’s largest air force base. In the midst of Chifan, the waiters, dressed in black tails, made a huge cake. The color cream on it was written in Russian: “In honor of the Red Army. Volunteer Pilots.

- From the memoirs of F. Polynin.

If for China's leadership the authorship of the feat was obvious, then the rest of the world was tormented by doubts. The Japanese, rightly believing that Soviet pilots were sitting at the controls of the bombers, sent a note of protest to their islands through their ambassador Segimitsu to Moscow, but were sent to their islands. The Soviet Union never advertised the volume of military aid to China and kept the names of volunteer heroes secret.

But the reward did not remain a draw for long - after a day she had found her “hero”. All the laurels of glory for the daring raid on Taiwan was appropriated by the American Vincent Schmidt. An experienced pilot with a 20-year experience, a hero of the First World and Spanish Civil War, he arrived in China at the head of an international group of volunteers and now willingly gave interviews about how he and his boys defeated the Japanese base. The deception was revealed pretty soon - from Japan it was confirmed that Soviet-made bombers, such as the Security Council, had struck the blow, and American volunteers had nothing to do with it. Instead of trying to make a nasty embarrassment, writing it off to the difficulties of translation and ignorance of Chinese, Vincent Schmidt demanded an apology for defamation from the Chinese leadership, and then filed a resignation report and went to Hong Kong. 14-th squadron of the Chinese Air Force, consisting of international volunteers, was soon disbanded, because of its complete uselessness, and sent the Americans to their homeland.


When the Chinese bombers raced through the Chinese Sea on Wednesday in their first daring raid on Japanese soil, they were led by the fearless veteran of many wars, Commander Vincent Schmidt, head of the international volunteer squadron. Commander Schmidt is an American. Along with him, an unknown number of foreign and Chinese aviators, including Russians, were in the Taihoku raid, in which 40 Japanese planes were destroyed at their aerodrome, radio station and other aerodrome equipment.

- The Hong Kong Telegraph, February 25 edition of the year 1938.

Forgotten Russian victories weapons

The participation of Soviet military experts in the fighting in China during the period 1937-41. still remains a taboo page in the history of our country. Unlike the PRC, where they remember well all the events that took place at that time and honor the memory of Russian volunteer pilots who fought in the skies of China. The Chinese erected several memorials in memory of the exploits of the pilots of the Red Army. In the military history museum of the city of Nanchang, where Soviet bombers were based, there is a special exhibition dedicated to the raid on Formosa.

In the period 1937-41. The Soviet Union handed over to China 1185 combat aircraft (777 fighters, 408 bombers), as well as 100 training biplanes. Dozens were delivered tanks and 1600 artillery systems. 5 thousand Soviet citizens — military advisers, engineers, technicians, and volunteer pilots — paid a business visit to China. F. Polynin himself later recalled that when he signed up as a volunteer, he assumed that they would be sent to Spain, but instead of the hot sky in southern Europe, the pilots fell into a bloody mess in Asia. According to official figures, 227 Soviet pilots laid their heads, defending the freedom of the Chinese people.


Fedor Petrovich Polynin

The bold 23 February February 1938 raid is just one of the high-profile operations carried out by Soviet pilots in the skies of China. Among other feats appear "raid" on the sacred land of Japan, produced by 20 May 1938 of the year. Operating from the airfield in Nanjing, the Soviet TB-3 whirled over the island of Kyushu, dropping dozens of boxes of anti-war leaflets. The operation caused a shock among the Japanese command. The answer was the Japanese military provocation, which turned into a massacre at Lake Hassan - there the opponents fought with open visors, without hiding their titles and names.

In March, the 1938 of the year once again distinguished itself the pilot of Fyn Po - again a sortie to the maximum range of 1000 km, with refueling in Suzhou. This time the bridge over the r. Yellow River

April 1938. Soviet and Chinese fighters engaged in combat with a large group of enemy aircraft over Wuhan. The Japanese lost their 11 fighters and 10 bombers. That day there were losses and from our side - 12 aircraft did not return to their airfield.

And how not to recall the destructive bombardment of the Hankow airfield, what happened on October 3 of the year 1939! A group of 12 DB-3, commanded by the military leader Kulishenko, broke through to the target deep in the rear of the enemy, flying at an altitude of 8700 meters, in full radio silence mode - and a hail of bombs rained down from a height of Japanese aircraft. The place known as “base W” has ceased to exist. According to Chinese intelligence, as a result of a sudden air strike, 64 was destroyed by Japanese aircraft, 130 people died, the base’s gas storage facility burned for more than three hours. Japanese casualty data looks more modest - 50 planes burned down, seven high-ranking officers were among the dead, and Admiral Tsukuhara, the commander of Japanese aviation, was injured. Such a major damage from a relatively small number of aircraft in the strike group is explained by the successful time of the raid - at that hour the construction and the ceremony of receiving the new aircraft were going on at the airfield.

Suddenly, silence was broken by loud cries from the flight control tower. And all of a sudden, without warning, the air was shaken by a terrible roar. The earth began to bounce and shake, the shock wave hit the ears painfully. Someone screamed, although it was no longer required: “Air raid!”

... The roar of exploding bombs merged into one continuous roar. A cloud of smoke rose above the airfield, I heard the whistle of fragments flying in different directions. Soon the storage of machine-gun belts with a terrible roar blew up into the air in a cloud of smoke and fire. Then a series of bombs fell across the airfield. The explosions hurt our ears and covered us with earth ...

And then I completely lost my head. I jumped to my feet and ran again. This time I rushed to the runway, every now and then looking anxiously at the sky. Above my head, I noticed 12 bombers in a clear line, which described a wide circle at a height of at least 20000 feet. These were the Russian twin-engine bombers of the Security Council, the main bombers of the Chinese Air Force. It would be meaningless to deny the deadly effectiveness of their surprise attack. We were caught off guard. Not a single person suspected anything until the whistling bombs went down. When I looked at the airfield, I was very shocked. High columns of flame rose when the fuel tanks exploded, huge clouds of smoke flew into the air. Those airplanes that had not yet burned were riddled with many fragments, and gasoline was whipped from punched tanks. The fire was thrown from a plane to a plane, greedily devouring gasoline. Bombers exploded like firecrackers, fighters burned like boxes of matches.

I ran around the burning aircraft, as if I were crazy, desperately trying to find at least one whole fighter. By some miracle, several “Claudes”, standing separately, avoided destruction. I jumped into the cabin of the plane, started the engine and, not waiting until it warmed up, led the fighter along the path.


- Memories of the Japanese ace Saburo Sakai from the book "Samurai"!
(The veteran is mistaken, his airfield was bombed with a DB-3. Sakai was the only one who managed to get airborne, but the Japanese failed to catch up with the Soviet aircraft).

The story of the Yamato-Maru aircraft carrier drowning on the Yangtze River stands apart - unlike the reliable evidence of the bombing of Japanese airfields, the story of the aircraft carrier still raises many questions. In the names of Japanese warships the prefix "...-maru" was never encountered. At the same time, this does not exclude the fact that the "aircraft carrier" was a remake on the basis of a civilian steamer and hung on the balance of the Air Force - there is evidence of the use of such "mobile airfields" on major rivers of China, where there was no developed network of ground air bases. If all the cards fall in the appropriate way, the Soviet pilots can be the first to manage to sink the aircraft carrier (even if it is as small and slow as the Yamato-Maru).

The story of a raid on Taiwan should have been reserved until Defender of the Fatherland Day, but I can't wait to tell you about it today. Indeed, what our military pilots were doing in China was very good. Such victories should be known, remember the names of the heroes and be proud of them.

Based on:
http://dmitry-a.livejournal.com
http://www.ap22.ru
http://nvo.ng.ru
http://en.wikipedia.org
http://www.balancer.ru



Obelisk to Soviet pilots in Wuhan





China's sensational raid on Formosa

Hankow, today

In contrast to Japanese reports of yesterday’s raid of Chinese aircraft on Formosa in Hankow, they claim the destruction of at least 40 Japanese aircraft at the Taihok airfield at the northern tip of the island.
A spokesman for the Chinese Air Force told reporters last night that the planes were standing in line on the airfield, and the attack was so sudden that the Japanese could not take them to shelter.
The Chinese report also claims the destruction of three hangars and gasoline stock.
The Chinese statement does not mention the number of aircraft participating in the raid and the place from which they took off.

The China Mail (Hong Kong), a note from February 24 of the year 1938



High-speed front bomber SB with the stars of the Kuomintang


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  1. vlad0
    +20
    23 December 2013 09: 27
    Decent article! Another little-known page of history is ajar.
    For some reason, I did not surprise the plot with the Americans. Apparently, it’s historically theirs - to ascribe to themselves other people's merits. Their entire system is built on this.
    1. rub40
      +4
      23 December 2013 11: 38
      Why a little-known page of history? I was familiar with this operation as early as 10 years (1990), in Soviet libraries there were many books about the participation of our soldiers in China, Spain and even in Africa - Ethiopia - the period of the Italo-Ethiopian War of 1935-36.
      It is very interesting to read about the sabotage of our Chekists in Poland in 20-30 years .. Afghanistan
      1. +1
        23 December 2013 15: 21
        Quote: srub40
        in Soviet libraries there were many books about the participation of our soldiers in China, Spain and even in Africa - Ethiopia - the period of the Italo-Ethiopian war 1935-36.
        It is very interesting to read about the sabotage of our Chekists in Poland in 20-30 years .. Afghanistan

        And then they like to say that the Red Army had absolutely no combat experience by the 1941 year

        This is after Hasan, Khalkhin-Gol, the three-year war in Spain, the winter war with Finland and all of the above ... in fact, the USSR, along with the Reich and Japan, was the most militarized and aggressive state in the world. The volume of military production and "fraternal aid" in the form of military equipment for the oppressed throughout the Eurasian continent. Fierce desire to get involved in any conflict in Europe and Asia.

        The same China - 227 Soviet military operations were killed in China, it is not difficult to estimate the number of pilots who gained solid combat experience in battles with the Japanese.

        Now, of course, they will say that the air battles on Khalkhin Gol and in the skies of China are nonsense compared to the Battle of Britain ... although on the other branch these same people will argue that the Strange War and the Western Front were a sandbox and no serious battles never been there
        1. rub40
          +2
          23 December 2013 16: 02
          I partially agree with you .... you just need to read the Soviet books and memoirs of our veterans: the personnel of the air regiments on the western border by 1/4, or at least all the squadron commanders were with combat experience and many were awarded.
          As for militarization - I agree, aggressive - no
          1. -12
            23 December 2013 17: 52
            Quote: srub40
            As for militarization - I agree, aggressive - no

            And how did you determine that the USSR was not an aggressive state?))

            In fact, the Soviet Union ruthlessly screwed its own and aliens, promised a world revolution, the whole world was depicted on its emblem, countless cells of the Comintern were subversive in Western countries, the USSR climbed into all wars and conflicts in Europe and Asia, regularly grew in new territories , did not recognize any international conventions and spit on the League of Nations, in the 30 years it built more tanks and combat aircraft than the rest of the world ... ISN'T SIGNS OF AGGRESSION ??
            1. rub40
              +8
              23 December 2013 18: 11
              [quote = SWEET_SIXTEEN] [quote = srub40] As for militarization - I agree, aggressive - no[/ Quote]
              And how did you determine that the USSR was not an aggressive state?))

              He screwed his own and others - whom exactly? Poland, Finland, Romania, the Baltic states were ventilated according to agreements with Germany, or as it is now fashionable to speak in accordance with international law
              He promised an international revolution: Trotsky-Yes, Stalin -No, and what happens with boasters is known
              The emblem depicts the whole world - well, not the whole, but the part that belongs to us by right: Eurasia, Africa, Australia is a joke, but we are not to blame for the fact that we have such a large country
              The Comintern is the same about the world revolution
              In all wars and conflicts - just tried to avoid this
              Growing in new territories - which is really bad
              International conventions and the League of Nation - then all
              Tanks and planes are also not bad, while they also sold well.
              1. -9
                23 December 2013 18: 27
                Quote: srub40
                He screwed his own and others - whom exactly?

                Gulag, ALZHIR (Akmola camp of wives of traitors to the motherland), dispossession of the land - tell me, was it not?
                Why was Georgy Langemak, the creator of the legendary Katyusha, shot?
                Contract killings of Trotsky in Mexico.
                Finland, China, the Baltic States, Poland, Afghanistan, Spain - in the 30-s of the USSR persistently climbed into all wars on the Eurasian continent

                The Stalinist USSR was absolutely ferocious and ruthless to both its own and foreign citizens (to those whom it identified as its enemies)
                Quote: srub40
                were ventilated according to agreements with Germany or as it is now fashionable to speak in accordance with international law

                Now this is called a crime committed by a group of persons by conspiracy. We found someone to cite as an example))) The Third Reich))) Where they made lampshades from human skin.

                The international community condemned all the wars and conflicts unleashed by the USSR (international volunteers in Finland, etc.), but the Union did not care at all
                Quote: srub40
                and that part which belongs to us by right: Eurasia, Africa,

                It’s not funny for yourself?
                Quote: srub40
                In all wars and conflicts - just tried to avoid this

                It is not true
                Quote: srub40
                Growing in new territories - which is really bad

                No, this is just a sign of aggression.
                Quote: srub40
                Tanks and planes are also not bad, while they also sold well.

                And they sold a lot? And to whom?)))))
                1. +1
                  10 June 2015 13: 58
                  You have listed far from all wars. The Americans fought in South America, Italy fought in Ethiopia, Japan fought in China. Britain suppressed the rebellions in several colonies, fought in Afghanistan, Africa and actively prevented very many from living. Brazil quarreled with Argentina. As for the above, the real war was with the Finns, but not aggressive, it had completely different goals - to secure Peter with the construction of the Vyborg cordon, because Finns, at the suggestion of the British, caused much concern to the city and the region.
                  In Spain, the USSR simply helped. Poland - there was introduced primarily a protectorate. Bessarabia - the peaceful return of the territory after the robbery of the country during the revolution.
                  The USSR showed the greatest aggression during the raid on Poland and the communist uprising in Germany, but Stalin absolutely rightly strangled the ideologists of this policy and was not a conqueror in the rest of the USSR. And you would not hurt to learn history and not distort
            2. postman
              -1
              23 December 2013 20: 51
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              And how did you determine that the USSR was not an aggressive state?))


              Yes, of course, the USSR was aggressive. To refute is simply silly.
              BUT (!) Then everyone was "good"
              I will give an example only for my "beloved" Finland
              1.) Activities of the Karelian Academic Society, the Union of Karelian Refugees, the East Karelian Committee for the Protection of Citizens of Karelia, the Ingermanland Committee, the Ingermanland Union, and the Karelian Committee (nationalist organizations of the type were created and funded by the Central Detective Police (CSP) Finland)
              2.) CSP: 45% of all (!) Secret Police officers are deployed in Vyborg, Terijoki, Sortavala, Joensuu, Kajaani, Rovaniemi and other places. So, in Terijoki in 1927, 27 employees worked, in Vyborg - 9 (for comparison: 3 people in Vaasa, only 4 in Tornio, on the border with Sweden).
              3.) Finnish military intelligence (OS) - had its units in Hanko, Kajaani, Kiviniemi, Kotka, Koivisto, Kuoloyarvi, Kuusamo, Lahdenpohja, Pechenga, Rovaniemi, Sortavale, Teriyoki, Vyborg. Moreover, in Vyborg, Sortavala, Kayaani, Rovaniemi were intelligence posts that carry out intelligence activities and sent intelligence and agents to the USSR with specific tasks. For operational management purposes, intelligence posts had residency in settlements near the USSR border.
              By 1939, Finnish military intelligence divided the northwestern territory of the USSR from the Leningrad to Murmansk regions into 32 zones of its intelligence aspirations.
              According to the documents of the 20s and 30s, 74 people were passing by who had made reconnaissance missions in the USSR, or who lived on the territory of the Soviet Union and assisted the Finnish special services.
              Finnish secret services had in the USSR or sent to us about 400 agents
              Finnish reconnaissance Penny for 1921 - 1930 thrown over a hundred times in the USSR.
              In the period from June 10 to November 17, 1939, the intelligence station in Rovaniemi sent 18 reconnaissance groups to the Soviet Union, which spent 126 days there.
              4.) In 1920 - 1930, the Finns developed plans for an attack on the USSR
              5.) “Conspiracy of the Finnish General Staff”
              6.) "Karelian adventure"

              as a result:
              In 1935 - 1940, the NKVD of Karelia in total was instituted 13075 criminal cases, which were 15 people. 10850 of them were sentenced to death ...
              understand how you want
            3. 0
              10 June 2015 09: 26
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN

              In fact, the Soviet Union ruthlessly screwed its own and aliens, promised a world revolution, the whole world was depicted on its emblem, countless cells of the Comintern were subversive in Western countries, the USSR climbed into all wars and conflicts in Europe and Asia, regularly grew in new territories , did not recognize any international conventions and spit on the League of Nations, in the 30 years it built more tanks and combat aircraft than the rest of the world ... ISN'T SIGNS OF AGGRESSION ??

              Signs of aggressiveness - when they grab someone else's and destroy the good.
              But the USSR won back and won for the sacred.
            4. +1
              10 June 2015 13: 52
              The USSR existed for many years and did not always behave the same.
              With aggressive Cominternists (Trotsky, etc.), Stalin figured out and after that your words about the aggression of the USSR are already a lie.
        2. +4
          23 December 2013 16: 24
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          And then they like to say that the Red Army had absolutely no combat experience by the 1941 year

          Only "experts" can say that.
          On June 22, 1941, the Luftwaffe "felt" this fact.
        3. 0
          10 June 2015 13: 50
          fights in China provided valuable experience and revealed a number of shortcomings in the organization of the All-Russian Exhibition Center,
          but the command was mediocre and simply squandered on the experience gained.
      2. StolzSS
        0
        23 December 2013 17: 38
        Well, you read books, but I know a lot of ignoramuses who read by syllables in their 30s ((((

        I remember the Dagestanis were very offended and beat me for a long time and it hurt me because I called them uneducated monkeys. Then he told them many different things about how their ancestors fought for Russia on different fronts at different times ...
      3. 0
        10 June 2015 09: 23
        Quote: srub40
        Why a little-known page of history? I was familiar with this operation back in 10 years ....


        I agree.
        BUT!
        I take into account the features of the current moment in a gigantic stream of Western propaganda such materials are simply necessary on different sites, in articles, books, .....
    2. +4
      23 December 2013 13: 33
      Quote: vlad0
      For some reason, I did not surprise the plot with the Americans.


      Yes, in fact, the country is such - liars, swindlers and thieves. There is nothing to be done ... "Well, he is lying. And he knows that he is lying. It's sad" (c) VVP
      1. +6
        23 December 2013 16: 25
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Yes, in fact, the country is such - liars, swindlers and thieves. There is nothing to be done ... "Well, he is lying. And he knows that he is lying. It's sad" (c) VVP

        This aphorism, along with Ivanov's "Nonsense of a gray mare ...", should be immortalized on the doors of the State Department with gold bindings. laughing
    3. +1
      23 December 2013 19: 16
      I agree +, + for the article and the comment.
  2. avt
    +2
    23 December 2013 10: 20
    A plus . good In general, very little is said about the war in China. And ours fought fiercely there. What was the cost of one air bridge to China through Xinjiang. By the way, Chiang Kai-shek signed the Yalta agreement. But with the reorientation towards Mao, they forgot about the relationship with him and that distant war that ours fought in China.
    1. +3
      23 December 2013 14: 57
      After the death of Stalin, the Soviet Union was no longer respected in China.
      What contributed Khrushev with his idiotic behavior.
      1. avg
        +3
        23 December 2013 16: 37
        What textbooks did you teach history.
        That Khrushchev needed to give China Mongolia, territories in the Far East and Transbaikalia. The only requirement for an atomic bomb is worth something. As Mao said: "... we get a bomb and start a war with imperialism. ... if half of humanity is destroyed, then half will remain, but imperialism will be completely destroyed." And how he recommended fighting NATO. He advised the SA to retreat to the Urals, to lure the enemy, giving the KNLA time to prepare, and then, with the help of the Chinese comrades, to defeat the enemy. And then the Chinese comrades will stay here and teach us communism. Moreover, constant idiotic lectures, coupled with an absolute inability to establish a normal life in China. Yes, Nikita is not a gift, but perhaps anyone in his place could not stand it, and sent such a sidekick ...
        1. +1
          24 December 2013 06: 57
          Certainly stupid suggestions. This shows the attitude towards Khrushev. But Stalin would not even have thought to say such a thing.
        2. 0
          24 December 2013 06: 57
          Certainly stupid suggestions. This shows the attitude towards Khrushev. But Stalin would not even have thought to say such a thing.
        3. 0
          10 January 2014 22: 55
          Quote: avg
          Nikita is not a gift, but, perhaps, anyone in his place could not stand it, and sent such a sidekick ...

          Yes, Nikita is not a gift, And "Jamal" would have read a little and then perform.
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  3. 0
    23 December 2013 10: 32
    Yes, they raised it, on your own head!
  4. +3
    23 December 2013 10: 42
    We need such articles that people would know and remember their history.
  5. ed65b
    +5
    23 December 2013 11: 34
    Great article, plus a huge one, I learned in the first. Very proud of our pilots. soldier
  6. +1
    23 December 2013 12: 50
    Glory to the Russian pilots !!! Worthy of written! Article PLUS !!!
    1. +1
      23 December 2013 13: 26
      Well, how do you differ from pin.dos, who ascribe other people's merits to themselves ... "... to Russian pilots ..." there may have been few Russians there ...
      GLORY TO THE SOVIET PILOTS!
      1. StolzSS
        +2
        23 December 2013 17: 43
        This is vryatli. In the USSR there were many different nations, but 90 percent of the cadres were or considered themselves Russian. Remember the Hero of the decker Apakidze. he is a Georgian by blood and in everyday life he himself said what Georgian I have never been in Georgia ....
  7. Impich
    -9
    23 December 2013 13: 25
    in my opinion about this incident I read in the memoirs of Saburo Sakai .... in my opinion he even caught up and knocked a couple of ours back then .. for which he was promoted ...
    1. Hudo
      +5
      23 December 2013 16: 47
      Quote: Impich
      in my opinion he still caught up and knocked a couple of ours .. for which he received a promotion ...


      Caught up, you need to understand in a dream. Lying on the mat, he bent with his little legs, clenched his fists in impotent rage, gritted his teeth with rage and knocked down, knocked down, knocked down. Then the veil of delirium was asleep and he woke up.
      1. Impich
        -1
        23 December 2013 16: 48
        here so as not to say take it better and read ...
        1. Hudo
          +3
          23 December 2013 16: 52
          Take care of your jabber, not an hour will come off. Whom should I read? Pyndos-storyteller or Japanese-cat Bayun?
          1. Impich
            -2
            23 December 2013 20: 42
            you're probably stupid ... I told Saburo Sakai's memoirs ....
            1. Hudo
              +3
              23 December 2013 21: 25
              Leave your boorish-swine habits to poke strangers to you. SB speed (maximum), it is clearer than clear that after the bombardment they left without bomb load at the maximum possible speed - 450 km / h. The speed of the most advanced version of the Mitsubishi A5M (Ki-18) is 445 km / h.
              http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B8_%D


              0% 905% D0% 9C

              http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%9D%D0%A2-40#.D0.9B.D1.91.D1.82.D0.BD.D1.8


              B.D0.B5_.D1.85.D0.B0.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.BA.D1.82.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B8


              .D0.BA.D0.B8

              Using simple mathematical calculations, subtract from a higher value (SB speed), lower (Mitsubishi A5M speed), and surprise visitors to the site, as having taken off with a LOWER flight speed with a delay, the Japanese narrow-eyed dreamer Saburo Mukhauzenovich Sakai caught up with someone there laughing , but not just caught up, but also shot down. fool
              Insert a roll of toilet paper into the printer and print these "true" type memoirs - and you will be happy. You will read them aloud to the cat, and while eating sour cream, he will wag his tail with understanding.
  8. postman
    0
    23 December 2013 13: 52
    Quote: Author
    Unlike China, where they remember well all the events that happened at that time and honor the memory of Russian volunteer pilots fighting in the skies of China.

    Well, that’s understandable. Date of the raid?

    Fighting at Hassan Lake (July 29 - August 11, 1938)
    Fights on Khalkhin Gol (May 11 - September 15, 1939)


    How else to prove "the attacks of the aggressive Japanese military on the USSR"

    On April 13, 1941, Japan and the USSR signed a neutrality pact. Later, when in December 1941 German troops stood near Moscow, Hitler asked the Japanese to attack the USSR in the Far East, but they refused to join the Third Reich in his war with the USSR, although they were participants in the Axis. [/ Color]


    On April 5, 1945, the Soviet government made a statement refusing to extend the contract, as a result of which, in the opinion of the Soviet side, the pact ceased to exist. When, four months later, on August 9, 1945, the USSR began a war with Japan, this came as a great surprise to her, since the pact expired on April 25, 1946.


    Quote: Author
    In the period 1937-41. The Soviet Union transferred 1185 combat aircraft (777 fighters, 408 bombers), as well as 100 training biplanes to China. Dozens of tanks and 1600 artillery systems were delivered.


    AMAZING FIGURES ...LOTS, lightly. READ OUT !!!

    “The Arms Trade and International Systems”, Robert E. Harkavy; “Kampf um die Lurtherrshaft”, Olaf Groehler, 1989; reports “... airplanes to China”, “Military-historical forum”, 18.8.99; Art. “Soviet bombers in China (1937 - 1946)”, V. Kotelnikov, A. Demin, “Aviation and Cosmonautics”, No. 2, 1998; “Supplies of aircraft”, A. Stepanov, 27/07/99
    But not the point.
    But there were still (except China): the Soviet Union in the period From 1930 until the outbreak of World War II, it supplied arms to Spain, Turkey, the Czech Republic, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland. . At the same time, deliveries to the first three states were quite significant in volumes. For example, to Turkey It was delivered: in 1933, 2 bombers, in 1935 10 tanks T-28, 5 T-27, 62 T-26 and 100 armored vehicles.

    INTERESTING, HOW MUCH FOR THIS PERIOD WAS DELIVERED TO THE RKKA?
    1. +2
      23 December 2013 15: 36
      You somehow forgot that in 1904 the Japanese attacked Russia in the Far Eastern time, and declared war in Moscow. This is such a samurai trick. At least the Soviet Union withdrew from the non-aggression pact in four months, judging by the materials that are now published , the Japanese didn’t bother with such trifles in the 40s, and if they had decided to attack the Soviet Union, they would have done just like in 1904 or like Hitler, they first started the invasion and then declared war.
      1. postman
        -3
        23 December 2013 16: 08
        Quote: Motors1991
        You somehow forgot that in 1904 the Japanese attacked Russia

        ? Why forgot
        1. Not to Russia, but to the Russian Armed Forces located in occupied Manchuria, and also because of the Russian forest (you can think of a few of your own forest) concessions in Korea:
        -You are aware of the Bezobrazov clique (as an example: Witte, at the personal instruction of the king, opened Bezobrazov a loan of 2 million rubles.), timber industry I. Balashov (one of the richest people in Russia) and the struggle m / y them?
        - in the places of deforestation in order to "protect" the Russian military began to settle. All this caused protests from the Korean government, Japan and England?
        -what ASKING THE DEPUTY CHAIR of the board of the “Operational Partnership on the Yalu River” A. Bezobrazova E. Alekseev began to send troops to Korea?
        in particular, entering there 600 soldiers dressed in civilian clothes. The tasks of the soldiers, in addition to logging, included the construction of military roads. In May 1903, about a hundred soldiers were brought into the village of Unampo, located at the mouth of the Yalu River, under the pretext of building timber depots there. By December 1903, barracks, stables and a pier were erected in the village. This activity went beyond the usual commercial and was perceived by England and Japan as an attempt by Russia to consolidate its military presence in the north of Korea.which by then has already been recognized by Russia itself as the sphere of interests of Japan. The Japanese protested.

        2. The triple intervention (French Triple intervention, Intervention von Schimonoseki) remember this was recently ... before the events in question
        1. +1
          23 December 2013 17: 14
          Quote: Postman
          This activity went beyond the usual commercial and was perceived by England and Japan as an attempt by Russia to consolidate its military presence in the north of Korea,

          Well, if England, tady, of course, Russia became insolent. request
          1. postman
            -1
            23 December 2013 17: 53
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Russia has become insolent

            1. I did not say this, skolipastil
            2. You do not cling to the words (England), and see the root.
            The problem of the outbreak of the Japan-Russia war ... LEARN MORE.
            If the "corrupt" affairs of the tsarist ministers, maybe there would be no war between our two empires, essno would not have any "Sakhalin / Kuril issues."
            There would be a good neighbor in the Far East.
            ===
            not a fact, BUT CAN BE
    2. -1
      23 December 2013 18: 05
      Quote: Postman
      How else to prove "the attacks of the aggressive Japanese military on the USSR"

      In the 30s, the CCCR behaved like an international gopnik (I left a brick on this topic at the beginning of the branch)
      Quote: Postman
      13 April 1941, Japan and the USSR signed a neutrality pact. Later, when German troops were stationed near Moscow in December 1941, Hitler asked the Japanese to attack the USSR in the Far East, but they refused to join the Third Reich in his war with the USSR, although they were participants in the Axis

      There are documents, Japan was planning a strike on the USSR in the summer of 1942. - drawn cards. discussions at the highest level (if interested, I can search for the exact link)
      did not attack only because of problems in the Pacific Ocean - the Yankees pulled the Japanese military
      Quote: Postman
      AWESOME NUMBERS ... LOTS, lightly. READ OUT !!!

      Is it?
      1. postman
        0
        23 December 2013 20: 53
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        I left a brick on this topic at the beginning of the branch)


        yeah just read and answered

        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        drawn cards. discussions at the highest level (if interested, I can search for the exact link)


        I would be grateful, but that I was tormented by vague doubts that these were GPU achievements.
        WELL DO NOT YOU THINK THE SAME JAPANESE IDIOTS? (The United States and Britain were not enough for them ???)
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Is it?

        Well, I brought both the scoreboard and the source
        1. 0
          23 December 2013 21: 30
          Quote: Postman
          I would be grateful, but that I was tormented by vague doubts that these were GPU achievements.

          what we managed to quickly find

          On July 2 of 1941, an imperial meeting was held at which the question was decided, what should be done next with the start of the war between Germany and the Soviet Union? Hit the North, help Germany and have time to capture what was planned, that is, the Far East and Eastern Siberia? Or go south, because the Americans, as you know, declared an embargo and the Japanese faced the prospect of oil starvation. The fleet was in favor of going south, because without the oil of Japan it would have been difficult to continue the war. The army, traditionally aimed at the Soviet Union, advocated that it was one of a thousand chances, as they called. A chance to take advantage of the Soviet-German war in order to achieve their goals in relation to the Soviet Union.

          The Kwantung army, which was located on the border with the Soviet Union, was strengthened, brought to 750 thousand. And a schedule was drawn up for warfare, a date was set - on 29 of August 1941 of the year Japan was to treacherously hit in the back, so to speak, the Soviet Union.

          Why couldn’t they?

          The Japanese themselves recognize this. 2 factor. Why was 29 August a deadline? Because then fall, the debauchery. They had experience of fighting in the winter, which for Japan ended very unfavorably. First, Hitler did not fulfill his promise to carry out Blitzkrieg and take Moscow through the 2-3 months, as planned. That is, persimmon is not ripe. And the second - the main thing - is that Stalin, nevertheless, showed restraint and did not reduce troops in the Far East and Siberia as much as the Japanese wanted. The Japanese planned to cut it by 2 / 3. He cut it by about half, and this did not allow the Japanese who remembered the lessons of Hassan and Khalkhin-Gol to hit the Soviet Union in the back from the East. Xnumx factor basic.


          - Doctor of History, Orientalist Anatoly Koshkin

          Well, I brought both the scoreboard and the source

          Some strange numbers - just look at the pace of military production of the USSR in the 30 years
          1. postman
            0
            24 December 2013 13: 08
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            what we managed to quickly find

            In the Russian (!) Sources taken from compiled sources of the USSR (then).
            DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
            Well, look at least:
            -on the map
            -on indicators of the economies of the USSR and Japan of those years
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            Some strange numbers - just look

            ? why strange
            ??? why "look"
            in addition to the potential of the USSR industry, there are such "constraining" factors:
            - reputation (you still need to "force" buy
            -finance (solvency
            -logistics (still need to be delivered, Schaub was not taken away on the way)
            -pressure of other manufacturers.
            well and so on
            1. 0
              24 December 2013 20: 16
              Quote: Postman
              In the Russian (!) Sources taken from compiled sources of the USSR (then).

              Koshkin is a famous Japanese scientist. Anyway, he had a chance to get acquainted with sources on the other bank
              1. postman
                0
                25 December 2013 10: 30
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                Anyway, he had a chance to get acquainted with sources on the other bank

                probably
                KANTOKUEN PLAN
                DIRECTIVE No. 506

                And ... rethinking realities = document “Project of operations in the current conditions”
                During the operations, it was supposed to capture Voroshilov (Ussuriysk), Vladivostok, Blagoveshchensk, Iman, Kuibyshevka, Khabarovsk, Birobidzhan, Birokan, the Rukhlovo region, Northern Sakhalin, Nikolaevsk-on-Amur, Komsomolsk, Sovetskaya Gavan and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.
                Directive No. 519 of July 24, 1941
                =========================
                Kwantung Army (TSB. - 1969-1978)
                In 1941–43 in Manchuria and Korea, there were 15–16 Japanese divisions (about 700 thousand people).
                / well, generally about the sun of Japan /






                And the most important:





                How (see the last 3 plates) with all this to capture the DV? and then hold on too?

                ----
                No, of course it’s not debatable. Japan could (probably) capture Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands and land in Kamchatka and the Kwantung Army would approach Vladivostok ...
                But for how long? so, what is next?
  9. +1
    23 December 2013 14: 31
    Thanks to the author - Oleg Kaptsov for an interesting and informative article !!!
  10. +6
    23 December 2013 14: 58
    "The Japanese, rightly believing that Soviet pilots were at the controls of the bombers, sent a note of protest through their ambassador Segimitsu to Moscow, but were sent to their islands".

    Mmmm! It will be necessary to remember the quote! Masterfully, masterfully, our Foreign Ministry also worked! laughing
  11. 0
    23 December 2013 15: 03
    Today it would be called a preemptive strike. soldier
  12. rub40
    0
    23 December 2013 18: 37
    [quote = srub40] Tanks and planes are also not bad, but they also sold well [/ quote]
    And they sold a lot? And to whom?))))) [/ Quote]
    This is just the export option. wink
    Yes, not everything was so bad
  13. 0
    23 December 2013 19: 04
    Had I heard about that in the 70s, I would have considered it "the enemy's invention." Ah yes our fellows! It was not only military advisers who fought in China.
  14. 0
    23 December 2013 19: 22
    For some reason, materials about those events appear only in small editions or on the Internet. You need to drive on TV. On t-shirts prints with dates to do. Well, in general, like a mattress. At first it was colorful and incomprehensible, then they asked the elders or other sources.
    To the author, of course, +. Well done!
  15. 0
    23 December 2013 19: 35
    Glory to the heroes
  16. 0
    23 December 2013 20: 09
    Japanese fighters of that time had almost the same speed as the SB.
    It is unlikely that they could catch up.
  17. Asan Ata
    +1
    23 December 2013 23: 26
    Surprisingly, the obelisk was preserved, no matter what. Respect to those Chinese who preserved it.
  18. -1
    23 December 2013 23: 31
    Hmm ... As for the raid on October 3, it’s kind of a bit wrong information. As far as I know, Saburo Sakai caught up with the formation of the Chinese bombers, fired and knocked out one.
    1. Hudo
      0
      23 December 2013 23: 40
      Quote: Saburo
      Saburo Sakai caught up with the formation of the Chinese bombers, fired and knocked out one.


      Where can one read about this in addition to his memoirs and the works of researchers, these same memoirs quoted or with reference to them? I would be grateful for the information provided.
  19. kelevra
    0
    26 December 2013 23: 31
    Americans are liars and cowards! The time will come when all their "merits" will be debunked like the cult of Stalin! And everyone will see what they really are!