The newest development of JSC Concern PVO Almaz-Antey and JSC IEMZ Kupol in the air defense system

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World experience in the field of international military conflicts of the last decade shows that in all cases the attacker relied on the use of air attack means: tactical aircraft to achieve their goals aviationcruise missiles and precision weapons (WTO).

Priorities for air attack weapons were:
a) disorganization and destruction of the defense system of the defending party;
b) the destruction of the most important military installations: command posts, communications centers, warehouses, arsenals, military equipment clusters and military personnel in places of concentration;
c) suppressing the means of communication and control of the defending side and forcing it to fulfill the requirements of the attacking side.

In turn, the defending side made attempts to resist air strikes with available air defense weapons. It was the lack of a defensive side of a modern air defense system capable of repelling air strikes not only of tactical aircraft, but also of high-precision weapons, including cruise missiles of various bases and range of use, guided bombs, anti-radar missiles and air-to-ground guided missiles defeat.

Short-range anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRK) are the last frontier in the air defense system of any state. Today, defense capability and resistance to external aggression of states is assessed by the presence of a modern air defense system, and first of all by the presence of a short-range air defense system.

Therefore, today the most popular and most promising direction in the development of air defense systems is the creation of new air defense systems with enhanced combat capabilities. Demand in this segment of the arms market is growing rapidly, as is competition among suppliers.

One of the most effective short-range systems today are the Tor family air defense missile systems, specially designed to destroy high-precision air attack weapons, tactical aircraft, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles in difficult jamming and meteorological conditions, day and night.

The newest development of JSC Concern PVO Almaz-Antey and JSC IEMZ Kupol in the air defense system


The newest development of JSC Concern PVO Almaz-Antey and JSC IEMZ Kupol is Tor-M2KM air defense missile system with combat and technical equipment in a modular design. It has high reliability and effectiveness in the fight against actively maneuvering air targets, guided and planning aerial bombs, anti-radar, guided and cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles, airplanes and helicopters. The complex is equipped with modern computing facilities and modern radars, which allow detecting and processing up to 48 targets, simultaneously accompanying the most dangerous targets to 10 and ensuring the simultaneous destruction of four targets from them.

"Tor-М2КМ" is a modular complex, which provides the accommodation of an autonomous combat module (ABM) and technical equipment on any automobile chassis, semi-trailers, trailers, other platforms of a corresponding capacity and in a stationary version. The ABM, which houses all special equipment, a computer system, radar and optical equipment, rocket armament, an operator compartment, an autonomous system and additional power supply with its own fuel supply, life support systems, ventilation and air conditioning, is installed on the car chassis and other platforms using three special, quick-release brackets. The special design of the brackets allows you to quickly move the ABM from one platform to another. Swapping ABM from one platform to another takes no more than 10 minutes and is performed with a conventional 25-ton crane. There is only one restriction: the technical characteristics of the platforms must meet the following requirements: for ABM, the load capacity of any platform must be at least 20 tons width not less than 2500 mm and length not less than 7000 mm, for technical equipment such as transport and charging machine, spare parts kit, battery command post and simulator - enough 5-8 tons, width 2500 mm and length 6000 mm.

ABM is not connected to the platform by any mechanical or hydraulic drives or energy systems. It has its own power source in the form of a gas turbine unit (GTE), which provides the generation of electricity required parameters and power. The exit time for the GTE operating mode is no more than 60 seconds. The total time to bring ABM on alert is no more than 3 minutes. An electrostatic converter that converts three-phase voltage 380В and frequency 50Hz from any external source into three-phase voltage 220В and frequency 400Hz is used for the first time as an additional power source in the module.



The Tor-М2КМ SAM system, located on the serial car chassis of the Indian company Tata Motors, was demonstrated at the MAKS-2013 International Air Show. By this we showed the whole world that the Dome designed an anti-aircraft missile system, the combat and technical means of which can be placed on any automobile chassis and other platforms at the request of the customer.

In addition, the possibility of placing ABM on the roofs of buildings and structures, on hard-to-reach platforms, trailers, semi-trailers, on railway platforms and even on low-tonnage vessels capable of withstanding loads of more than 20 tons is provided. This makes it possible to significantly expand the functionality of the complex, provide air defense of various military units of different types and branches of the Armed Forces, the most important state, military and industrial facilities, major cities (megalopolises), provide reliable protection from air terrorists of major international sports events, such as the Olympic Games or World Cup Championships.

When placing any air defense system in the city or on the territory of the protected object, the combat capabilities of the complex will be very severely limited due to the large number of ground objects, buildings and structures located in the working area of ​​the complex’s radar equipment and the missile flight trajectories. The self-contained combat module of the Tor-M2KM air defense system in fully equipped condition weighs no more than 15 tons, which ensures its transportation on the external sling of a heavy transport helicopter Mi-26T or its foreign analogues. Thus, ABM can be delivered and installed in the most inaccessible places: at commanding heights, on the roofs of buildings and structures, where it will provide reliable protection of objects from any means of air attack included in the 15-kilometer zone of destruction of the complex.

The whole process of the Tor-MHNUMXKM air defense missile system is fully automated, the person only chooses to destroy from among the targets proposed by the machine. When the ZUR is ready for launch, the commander presses the START button. The anti-aircraft guided missile (SAM) is automatically aimed at the target and the target is undermining the missile warhead, thus ensuring a reliable defeat of the target. The combat equipment of the missile contains fragments of complex geometric shape, made of a special high-density alloy (tungsten-nickel-iron), This ensures the highest penetration ability of the fragment and almost completely eliminates the possibility of rebound. Small errors at the meeting point, adaptation of the radio fuse to the type of air target in combination with special combat equipment of the anti-aircraft missile system provide the complex with a high probability of hitting all types of air targets. .

Thus, by pressing the "Start" button, the commander will destroy the air target. With the defeat of the 1 target, the target and rocket channels are released, the machine automatically searches for the next target, automatically takes it to support, and when the SAM is ready for launch, the commander again presses the Start button. This process is repeated as the target and rocket channels are released automatically until the targets are in the air, and in the ABM there are missiles.

Anti-aircraft missile module provides transportation, storage and launch of four missiles. Each ABM has two anti-aircraft missile modules. The transport-charging module, means of maintenance and repair, a group set of spare parts and a simulator of the complex, placed in unified container bodies, can be installed on a car chassis similar to the ABM chassis, or on any car chassis, semi-trailers and trailers according to the customer.

The Tor-М2КМ SAM system is equipped with the GLONASS / GPS navigation system developed by the Russian company Navis. It not only determines the location of the complex with very high accuracy, but also provides measurement of the angular parameters of the ABM (heel and trim) in different planes. The calculation does not require the presence of geodetic skills that were necessary when using the instruments of the previous generation.

Of course, the use of new equipment and the expansion of functional tasks required certain changes in the ABM software.

In October-November, 2013 at the test site of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Kapustin Yar underwent tests of the Tor-М2КМ air defense system with combat and technical equipment in a modular design, placed on the Indian-made TATA automobile chassis. During the tests, all the declared performance characteristics were fully confirmed, in particular, the combat capabilities of the complex for hitting air targets on the far border of the 15 km area, targets flying at a speed of 700 m / s, and targets flying with a course parameter more than 6 km at a distance 12 km. All-weather, all-day complex and its driving characteristics were confirmed. In addition, in the course of testing, the interaction in the grouping consisting of ABM, transport-charging module 9Т244К, radar on duty mode "Caste-2Е2" and unified battery command center "Ranzhir-MK" was tested. The Tor-М2КМ SAM system passed all tests with honor.

The number of air attacks and their varieties grows from year to year, so in no case should one stop there. Our designers and engineers are constantly working to improve the characteristics of the Tor family’s air defense systems, variants of a fundamentally new complex, looking for many years to come.

More information about the missile system can be obtained by clicking on the link. http://kupol.ru/spetstekhnika/zrk-tor-m2km/.
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  1. Horde
    +19
    21 December 2013 08: 43
    TORchik develops in the first, the radius was less than 10km, now it is more than 15km, but the main thing is mathematics, to confidently capture and escort to the target in conditions of constant interference is worth a lot. The BEST complex in the world therefore cannot be cheap, Indians should understand this. good
    1. +8
      21 December 2013 14: 29
      Quote: Horde
      TORchik develops in the first, the radius was less than 10km, now it is more than 15km, but the main thing is mathematics, to confidently capture and escort to the target in conditions of constant interference is worth a lot. The BEST complex in the world therefore cannot be cheap, Indians should understand this. good


      Missile system, dear. It also needs a similar module of the artillery complex, with a single control system.

      Let's just say that if such a box stood on the World Trade Center, the world would still doubt who finances the Alkaida.
      1. +5
        21 December 2013 22: 22
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Let's just say that if such a box stood on the World Trade Center, the world would still doubt who finances the Alkaida.

        Well, you're an adult!
        Well, would he stand there, well, that the Americans could not turn it off?
        After all, the Pentagon’s security system is considered the best in the world and a repair was started, then the cameras disconnected and here’s a two-quarter hole !!
        Can you also say that this plane did?
    2. 0
      22 December 2013 14: 55
      I understand from the article that the TOP can only track and hit one target?

      Thus, by pressing the "Start" button, the commander will destroy the air target. With the defeat of the 1 target, the target and missile channels are freed, the machine automatically searches for the next target, automatically takes it for tracking, and when the missile is ready to launch, the commander presses the Start button again.
  2. +9
    21 December 2013 09: 01
    TOP - the best! A real robot from the fiction of the future.
    1. AVV
      +1
      21 December 2013 21: 50
      Thor and Carapace complement each other !!! Therefore, both will work in Sochi !!!
  3. podolski_cky
    -3
    21 December 2013 09: 13
    in the photo for india, or what? on the tata chassis
    1. +10
      21 December 2013 09: 51
      Quote: podolski_cky
      in the photo for india, or what? on the tata chassis


      Read the article did not try? Everything is explained there ...
      1. +4
        21 December 2013 13: 19
        But it's nice to see how the site is growing before our eyes.
        Really, really liked:
        http://kupol.ru/spetstekhnika/zrk-tor-m2km/.

        These are not assassins and "tabloids" to advertise - this is an adult advertisement! good
      2. podolski_cky
        +2
        21 December 2013 19: 15
        Quote: Vadim Smirnov
        Quote: podolski_cky
        in the photo for india, or what? on the tata chassis


        Read the article did not try? Everything is explained there ...

        with that already success they could put the Tatras on the chassis, and as if this one was chosen has nothing to do with the tender in India
  4. 0
    21 December 2013 09: 30
    The second pair of wheels is shocked by the load. wassat
    1. Horde
      +3
      21 December 2013 09: 47
      Quote: theadenter
      The second pair of wheels is shocked by the load.


      15 tons then? it's not much for modern tractors ...
      1. 0
        21 December 2013 10: 47
        But if you look at how they are "flattened" from below, the conclusion suggests itself that the pressure on this pair of wheels is greater than on the others.
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  5. largus886
    +3
    21 December 2013 09: 52
    Yes, in the field of air defense we are ahead of the rest. This can not but rejoice!
    1. UVB
      +4
      21 December 2013 10: 46
      The fact that there is no doubt ahead. Still, the quantity necessary to provide!
  6. +6
    21 December 2013 10: 19
    MZKT chassis is much more compact and maneuverable than this tattoo mastodon
    1. rolik
      0
      22 December 2013 19: 03
      Quote: ruslan207
      MZKT chassis is much more compact and maneuverable than this tattoo mastodon

      This Indians made their significant contribution to the creation of a wheeled TOP))))))))
  7. +6
    21 December 2013 11: 36
    I do not want to delve into the technical characteristics of this system for me and everything has been thought out for you. I just want to thank our designers for such a unique technique. Thank.
  8. +3
    21 December 2013 11: 40
    It can be mounted on the chassis of the KAMAZ according to the principle of shell
  9. +7
    21 December 2013 11: 52
    I would like these complexes to enter into their own armed forces in quantities not less than for export.
  10. Arh
    +2
    21 December 2013 12: 04
    Development is good! ! ! wink
  11. +4
    21 December 2013 12: 19
    I apologize to the guys) here I recently googled information on countries regarding the formation of their armed forces. It was revealed that in Bermuda the formation of the army was carried out using the LOTTERY)))
    From here: http://milpress.ru/archives/138
  12. Air Force
    +4
    21 December 2013 12: 23
    All these wheeled chassis are needed only to show that it is modular. If we talk about real combat use, then there are only caterpillars and nothing more.
    1. +11
      21 December 2013 13: 29
      if the torus provides air defense for the airfield or nuclear power station, why does it need caterpillars? the protected object is motionless, and the torus itself is the last line of defense if the adversary managed to slip through the s-300 ...

      to cover parts, yes, caterpillars.
  13. Song Hu Chan
    +4
    21 December 2013 14: 03
    It is possible to put on sea vessels, any transport and fishing.
    The first line of defense is about 200-mile zones of probable opponents. And taking into account the ship’s power supply, the air defense system will be much easier.
    In addition, the vulnerability of the air defense system will be lower, since the detection of targets in open spaces will take place without interference
  14. +4
    21 December 2013 14: 23
    if you put it on a serious flow, it’s quite possible to seriously reduce the cost. For example, a series of 500 products, the price will drop very much. But who is the customer of this quantity? Given orders of 20-30 products, then there is a break, there is no rhythm. That's the price. It is easy to stamp, but to sell, here the dog is buried.
    1. Airman
      +2
      21 December 2013 20: 06
      Quote: aleksandrs95
      if you put it on a serious flow, it’s quite possible to seriously reduce the cost. For example, a series of 500 products, the price will drop very much. But who is the customer of this quantity? Given orders of 20-30 products, then there is a break, there is no rhythm. That's the price. It is easy to stamp, but to sell, here the dog is buried.

      And what do we have, is everything so good with short-range air defense systems? The carapace does not count, it’s up to the TOP, like walking to the moon. So it needs to be produced in large quantities, the troops are not enough.
  15. +1
    21 December 2013 14: 43
    "Experts", what about the Pantsir air defense system, can it compete with Thor?
    According to the declared characteristics, the "Armor" is better, and it is he who should cover the S-400!
    1. +1
      21 December 2013 15: 28
      TTX TOR2M
      Affected area:
      range: from 1 to 15 km
      in height: from 0,01 to 10 km
      exchange rate parameter: 8 km
      Reaction time, s: 4,8
      Max. target speed 700 m / s

      Well, it is clear that the shells have a certain advantage over the Torahs. although this does not mean that the TOP is a bad system. each has its own superiority.




      TTX Shell-C1

      Type: two-stage supersonic solid propellant
      Guidance: radio command
      Speed ​​(maximum / average at a distance of 18 km)
      Maximum target speed: 1000 m/s
      Range to target: 1,2 km - 20 km
      Target altitude: 15 m - 15 km
      Д
      1. +2
        21 December 2013 15: 56
        citation-In October-November of 2013, at the range of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Kapustin Yar, tests were conducted of the Tor-M2KM air defense system with military and technical means in a modular design placed on an Indian-made TATA automobile chassis.


      2. 0
        2 January 2014 11: 50
        Are these all the parameters that you are comparing?
    2. Airman
      +2
      21 December 2013 20: 12
      Quote: TimurD0c
      "Experts", what about the Pantsir air defense system, can it compete with Thor?
      According to the declared characteristics, the "Armor" is better, and it is he who should cover the S-400!


      The carapace in terms of combat effectiveness loses to the TOP. Moreover, the shell has a lower probability of hitting maneuvering targets than the TOP.
  16. Air Force
    +1
    21 December 2013 16: 40
    Quote: Andy
    if the torus provides air defense for the airfield or nuclear power station, why does it need caterpillars? the protected object is motionless, and the torus itself is the last line of defense if the adversary managed to slip through the s-300 ...
    to cover parts, yes, caterpillars.

    Even if the stationary Torah object will need to change position in order to escape from the impact. And if it is winter in the snow? Or fall along the road? Mobility is its main advantage, so why deprive it?
  17. Air Force
    +2
    21 December 2013 16: 44
    Quote: TimurD0c
    "Experts", what about the Pantsir air defense system, can it compete with Thor? According to the declared characteristics, the "Pantsir" is better, and it is he who should cover the S-400!

    Declaring this is one thing, but really getting to the target is a little different. In May of this year, comparative firing between the Shell and Thor took place, according to the results of which Thor won. So the argument between the Carapace and Thor can be considered complete.
    1. Airman
      +1
      21 December 2013 22: 00
      Quote: UPU

      Declaring this is one thing, but really getting to the target is a little different. In May of this year, comparative firing between the Shell and Thor took place, according to the results of which Thor won. So the argument between the Carapace and Thor can be considered complete.

      They shot at the same targets, the TOP hit all the targets, the Shell wasn’t all, although his performance characteristics were better. You never know what is written on the fence.
  18. +3
    21 December 2013 16: 55
    Quote: TimurDOc Connoisseurs ", what about Pantsir SAM, can it compete with Thor?

    "Thor", a divisional autonomous self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system that operates in battle formations of motorized rifle and tank units and subunits, and "Pantsir" is intended for air defense of columns on the march, etc., has a combined missile and cannon armament (RV and PV), which allows you to create a continuous zone of destruction - up to 18 - 20 km in range and up to 10 km in height) ... These are two systems with completely different tasks, but tactically complementing each other. By and large they are identical, only the "Thor" range is shorter and there is no artillery system.
    _________________
    1. +3
      21 December 2013 17: 37
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      "Thor", a divisional autonomous self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system, which operates in the combat formations of motorized rifle and tank units and subunits, and "Pantsir" is intended for air defense of columns on the march, etc.,

      It should be noted that the line is very thin and the "difference" of tasks is determined by the preferences of different customers towards a particular developer.
    2. Airman
      +2
      21 December 2013 20: 22
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Quote: TimurDOc Connoisseurs ", what about Pantsir SAM, can it compete with Thor?

      "Thor", a divisional autonomous self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system that operates in battle formations of motorized rifle and tank units and subunits, and "Pantsir" is intended for air defense of columns on the march, etc., has a combined missile and cannon armament (RV and PV), which allows you to create a continuous zone of destruction - up to 18 - 20 km in range and up to 10 km in height) ... These are two systems with completely different tasks, but tactically complementing each other. By and large they are identical, only the "Thor" range is shorter and there is no artillery system.
      _________________


      TOP works both in battle formations and covers units on the march. The armor on the march of the troops can cover, but only from a short stop and only missile weapons, trunks can not even shoot from a short stop without jacks! Therefore, in this respect, the Shell loses even to Tunguska.
      1. 0
        21 December 2013 22: 13
        Forgive me if it’s not quite a topic: there was information on the Shell, which on the one hand does not strike well at maneuvering and high-speed targets, and on the other hand there are no targets that can be confirmed or disproved. So the question is - do we have targets with high speed and maneuverability?
        1. Airman
          0
          21 December 2013 22: 49
          Quote: alex86
          Forgive me if it’s not quite a topic: there was information on the Shell, which on the one hand does not strike well at maneuvering and high-speed targets, and on the other hand there are no targets that can be confirmed or disproved. So the question is - do we have targets with high speed and maneuverability?

          There is, and the shell on them smears.
          1. 0
            22 December 2013 21: 32
            Quote: Povshnik
            The shell on them smears.

            Sucks, however ...
      2. 0
        23 December 2013 18: 58
        Quote: Povshnik
        The armor on the march of the troops can cover, but only from a short stop and only missile weapons, trunks can not even shoot from a short stop without jacks! Therefore, in this respect, the Shell loses even to Tunguska.

        Depends on the chassis. If the chassis KAMAZ - then shooting from stops, if the base, then it can shoot on the move. Therefore, the Arabs sold the shell on the running MAN.
        By the way, we should not forget that at close range the Shell can fix the jambs of their missiles.
        1. Airman
          0
          25 December 2013 15: 12
          Quote: Bad_gr

          Depends on the chassis. If the chassis KAMAZ - then shooting from stops, if the base, then it can shoot on the move. Therefore, the Arabs sold the shell on the running MAN.
          By the way, we should not forget that at close range the Shell can fix the jambs of their missiles.

          If the Shell starts to shoot with trunks not along, but across the machine WITHOUT jacks, it will simply be turned over, be it MAN or KAMAZ. There is a shell on the tracks, like Tunguska, it can shoot from a short stop.
  19. Air Force
    +1
    21 December 2013 17: 13
    For air defense systems, it is absurd no matter what they cover. That the air enemy will bomb the tanks with one bomb and the S-400 with others?
    1. 0
      22 December 2013 12: 19
      A little bit wrong. Tanks — with one missile or UAB, and S-400 with others. And air defense means need to be sharpened just for them. And then the Shell has more potential advantages — and BZ 12 missiles versus 8, and the range is higher and the guns for firing at small range. Another thing is how it is implemented. I don’t know yet. But clients take the Shell, it’s impossible to consider all of them suckers and haulers
  20. 0
    21 December 2013 17: 21
    For all admirers of Thor: it should be understood that the country that according to the author
    To achieve its goals, it relied on the use of air attack means: tactical aircraft, cruise missiles and high-precision weapons (WTO).

    there are means of destruction the range of which exceeds the firing range of the aforementioned Torah. Further, the author continues rather vaguely
    It was the lack of a modern air defense system on the defender’s side, capable of repelling air strikes not only of tactical aircraft, but also of high-precision weapons, including cruise missiles of various bases and ranges, guided aerial bombs, anti-radar missiles and guided air-to-ground missiles, which led to its defeat.

    Like if the "DEFENDING SIDE" had Torahs, then the aviation of the "same" country would fall from heaven. I understand that he needs to advertise his products, although most likely he perfectly understands that Thor would not help any of the "defending sides" in any way, but why mislead people? In the absence of its own aviation and a single radar field, no Torah, Pantsyri, S-300/400/100500 will help. They are doomed to turn into smoking embers.
    1. Armed
      0
      21 December 2013 23: 17
      Quote: Nayhas
      Without own aviation and no Torah, Armor, S-300/400/100500 will help a single radar field. They are doomed to turn into smoldering firebrands.

      Only if its own aviation can equally stand up to a potential enemy.
      And there are no equal F-22 / F-35 in EPR (the main parameter).
      1. 0
        24 December 2013 08: 22
        Based on the foregoing, the best air defense option is the preventive destruction of enemy aircraft at bases, along with bases, and do not care about EPR. "Yars" is the best anti-aircraft gun! fellow
  21. +2
    21 December 2013 18: 45
    I want to pour a spoonful of tar. Please note in the bottom picture
    the complex stands on a trawl 60cm high. It does not fit into the generally accepted dimensions of 4m. When mounted on an all-wheel drive chassis
    SAM will not pass under most bridges of the old layout.
    About the movement in the city and there can be no question.
  22. 0
    21 December 2013 21: 26
    the complex stands on a trawl high

    This is some kind of stupid trawl shown. On a normal trawl, everything will be ok.
  23. 0
    22 December 2013 15: 33
    The ammunition is small. It’s interesting, but if it is put on a barge and put into the sea, will it work? And what if on the deck of the BDK?
  24. +1
    23 December 2013 14: 28
    Will work both on the barge and on the deck of the large landing ship, that's the whole highlight of the modular design. By the way, these modules can be considered as an effective air defense tool for our icebreakers, especially since today it is already becoming relevant with such an increased interest in the Arctic of the main international players. By the way, in Soviet times, the ZSU "Shilka", since the BDK ramp did not pass the width of the BDK and was loaded on the upper deck, was included in the air defense circuit of the ship to strengthen it. As for the fact that the "Thor" or "Pantsyr" is more effective, it has been written a lot - that " Thor. " This is not surprising, since the control loop of the missile, plus various gadgets of the rocket's radio fuse and the creation of a fragmentation field when the warhead is triggered by the "Antey" in any scenario, by definition, is much more effective than that of the "Pantsyr" due to the vast experience in the development of the previous air defense systems generations, which "Shipunovites do not have (except perhaps one and only" Tunguska "). In addition, the use of the millimeter range radar" Pantsyr "on a real battlefield (smoke, dust, drizzle, fog, snow, etc.) plus bicaliber a rocket, when the launching accelerator is actively working only in the acceleration phase of the rocket, and then flies by inertia to the target, in fact, a guided feathered projectile, raises even greater doubts about its real effectiveness of destruction of airborne weapons, especially high-speed ones with low ESR.
  25. 0
    26 December 2013 20: 40
    Mouth front, friends.
    Tell me ...
    I am confused by one Indian-made chassis on testing ???
  26. ermine
    0
    31 March 2014 03: 16
    comrades, do you even compare this dinosaur on a suspicious chassis with the Shell? By the way: at the mentioned duel firing, Thor perfectly shot at targets ... that he could see. And this is even less than half. Whereas the Shell successfully fired at all. They shoot the Shell in motion, everyone is calm, even to the side - they could not turn over, no matter how hard they tried ... And by the way about the flaws: Thor is at least 20 years older than the Shell, during which time they could come up with something better ..

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