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American drone X-37B has been in orbit for over a year.

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The mysterious American spacecraft (we are talking about the X-37B spaceless unmanned spacecraft) has been in a near-earth orbit for a year now, performing various tasks related, apparently, to long-term, but unknown space targets. This is the third long flight of the device in earth orbit. The last time X-37B traveled to space 11 in December 2012, it was launched from the launch site at Cape Canaveral as part of the OTV-3 mission (Orbital Test Vehicle 3). The general objectives of the mission, as well as information about the cargo on board the spacecraft, are strictly classified.


Prior to this, X-37B devices have already managed to go into space 2 times - as part of the OTV-1 mission, which was launched in the 2010 year (it lasted 225 days), and as part of the OTV-2 mission, in which the second device already tested X-37B. This mission was the longest, the spacecraft was in orbit 468 days, he managed to fly around the earth more than 7 thousands of times. After the assignment was completed, both vehicles landed successfully at the US Air Force Base in Vandenberg, California.

Work on the creation of the X-37 spacecraft began at 1999 after NASA signed a contract with the Boeing company. The total amount of the contract was 173 million. Since 2004, the US Air Force has been leading the project to build an experimental orbital plane. The X-37B was created by Boeing Defense Space and Security with the participation of NASA's X-37 research laboratories, X-37 of the United States Department of Defense Advanced Research Programs (DARPA) and the United States Air Force X-40. The entire process of designing, producing and testing the systems of the new orbiter was carried out at the Boeing facilities located in California.

American drone X-37B has been in orbit for over a year.

The X-37B experimental orbital plane is designed to perform a variety of tasks in Earth orbit at altitudes from 110 to 500 miles at speeds up to 17 500 miles / hour. The mass of the device is about 4995 kg, length - 9 m, height - 2,85 m, wingspan about 4,5 m. Each aircraft is equipped with a cargo compartment measuring approximately 2 per 0,6 meter. According to the creators, the X-37B design incorporates the best qualities of a spacecraft and a traditional aircraft, which allows the device to be used flexibly enough to solve various tasks. The launch of the spacecraft into space is carried out in a vertical mode with the help of a launch vehicle, but it lands on its own completely in an automatic mode in an aircraft mode (the same principle as for shuttles). Both X-37B spacecraft were built for the US Air Force by Boeing Government Space Systems.

According to Boeing, both aircraft are based on lightweight composite structures, which have replaced the now traditional aluminum. To protect the wings of the apparatus on an orbital plane, a high-temperature hot-melt of a new generation is used, which is different from the carbon tile used on the American space shuttles. Also, Boeing experts note that the entire avionics of the spacecraft was designed to automate the descent and landing apparatus. On top of that, there is no hydraulics on board the X-37B, all of its flight control and deceleration systems are based on electromechanical drives.

Today, no one knows how long the current mission in orbit will last; officially this information has not been announced anywhere, it is also not clear where the device will land at this time. Currently, the US Air Force is considering a variant with the descent and landing of the vehicle on the landing strip of space shuttles, which is located on the territory of the Kennedy Space Center NASA near Cape Canaveral. It was from here, just over a year ago, that the ship was launched into space. The infrastructure remaining after shutting down the shuttle program can be used, which will reduce the cost of the entire project, US officials say.


Currently, the longest flight of the orbital plane X-37B into space remains a flight within the framework of the OTV-2 project. The device started 5 March 2011 of the year from the launch site, located in Florida at Cape Canaveral. He was put into orbit by the Atlas-5 / 501 rocket. As a result, the unit spent in flight 468 days and 13 hours, landing at Vandenberg airbase in California. The flight was carried out as part of the continuation of the test program, which launched 22 on April 2010, along with the launch into orbit of the first X-37B (OTV-1), the first flight continued for 225 days.

It should be noted that X-37B was the first in stories US spacecraft, which returned to Earth and landed completely independently in unmanned mode. According to the Boeing company, this aircraft clearly showed that unmanned spacecraft are able to go into orbit and return home safely. Within the framework of the second super-long flight into space, the creators of the spacecraft tested in detail the strength characteristics of the X-37B design, and also tested its additional functions and capabilities.

At the same time, the leaders of the US Air Force shy away from interviews and direct answers to the question of exactly what tasks are facing the orbiting X-37B spacecraft. All their comments are reduced to the words about the need to collect data on the characteristics and capabilities of the aircraft. According to the manufacturer, the spacecraft is used to demonstrate the safety and reliability of using reusable unmanned spacecraft in orbit for solving tasks assigned to the country's air force.


It is not surprising that some skeptics, as well as a number of experts, including Russia, believe that the US is testing another space interceptor, which, if necessary, will be able to disable the satellites of a potential enemy, and some even speak about its possibility of rocket-bombing strikes from Earth's orbit.

This is not surprising, since the United States Air Force is silent and does not disclose the purpose of using the X-37B orbital plane. At the same time, the official version assumes that the device can be used to deliver various cargoes into orbit, this is what is called its main function. At the same time, there is information that the spacecraft can be used for reconnaissance purposes. According to the Russian historian A. B. Shirokorad, both of these assumptions are untenable because of their economic inexpediency. In his opinion, the most plausible is the version that the US military uses this device for testing and running in technologies for its future space interceptor, which, if necessary, will allow destroying space objects of other countries, including kinetic effects. This designation of this spacecraft can fit into the document entitled “US National Space Policy” dated 2006. This document, in fact, proclaimed Washington’s right to partially extend its national sovereignty to outer space.

Information sources:
http://gearmix.ru/archives/7370
http://vpk.name/news/70744_zavershen_469sutochnyii_polet_vtorogo_orbitalnogo_bla_x37b_kompanii_boing.html
http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/x-37.html
http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2010-04-30/8_x-37.html
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  1. saag
    saag 19 December 2013 08: 34 New
    +4
    Judging by the last photo, is he seasoned with hydrazine?
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 19 December 2013 08: 40 New
      +7
      Or something no less toxic.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 19 December 2013 11: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        Or something no less toxic.

        Etozhzhzh golimo "Coca Cola Light."
        And the pictures were obviously taken not after landing.
        Not a single pale on the painting.
        Quote: Nayhas
        Why SSHA created the X-37B no one except them knows, only speculation.

        Components for the iPad are dragged from the moon, where the lying "Autobot" ship is gutted for spare parts. wink
        And the goals and objectives for this waffle are clear.
        There is a cargo hatch. What can be put there is also clear.
        hi
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 20 December 2013 01: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Papakiko
          Not a single pale on the painting.

          This is a flying machine - traces of plasma on the nose fairing.
          There is no scorching due to the decontamination of the case (the entire bottom is already torn with a spatula), and before that they washed it with a solution - on top of the stain.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 December 2013 09: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: saag
      Judging by the last photo, is he seasoned with hydrazine?

      Yes, no ... These aliens think how to fly home on it ... wassat
    3. AVV
      AVV 19 December 2013 11: 58 New
      +5
      Back in the last century, Soviet designers planted Buran on the ground in automatic mode !!! Ours were the first !!!
      1. Heccrbq.3
        Heccrbq.3 19 December 2013 14: 51 New
        10
        Our horseradish knows how long ago the Spiral spacecraft was, it also flew, also in the machine, and this theirs drinchoper something suspiciously similar to him, but indeed, everything is as always.
    4. Siberian German
      Siberian German 19 December 2013 13: 36 New
      0
      or something there is luminous
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 20 December 2013 01: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Siberian German
        or something there is luminous

        There is a gamma (x-ray) laser. Colombia fell with the previous model, and this one is smaller and without people.
    5. postman
      postman 19 December 2013 16: 25 New
      0
      Quote: saag
      Judging by the last photo, is he seasoned with hydrazine?

      no
      hydrogen peroxide and kerosene



      Rocket engine AR-2/3 (Rocketdyne AR2-3 liquid-fueled rocke)


      http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20000033615_2000043589.pdf
  2. rereture
    rereture 19 December 2013 08: 49 New
    -9
    It’s clear that you can immediately see where the technology sailed, poured Buran.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 December 2013 09: 10 New
      +8
      Quote: rereture
      It’s clear that you can immediately see where the technology sailed, poured Buran.

      And Buran poured Space Shuttle, also a "floating" technology?
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 19 December 2013 09: 48 New
        +8
        The shuttle was not able to take off and land in fully automatic mode without the participation of the crew, and the snowstorm could not just do this, but did it.
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 19 December 2013 10: 15 New
          0
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          The shuttle was not able to take off and land in fully automatic mode without the participation of the crew, and the snowstorm could not just do this, but did it.

          Duc because no one set such a task before the shuttle. And Buran was not intended for operation without a crew, they simply decided not to risk the crew. The fact that the flight ended safely is undoubtedly the merit of the designers, but there was only one flight. Based on one test flight, it is rather difficult to talk about the reliability of the system. Once an astronaut ...
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 19 December 2013 20: 36 New
            +2
            Nayhas (2) RU Today, 10:15 ↑
            And Buran was not intended for operation without a crew, they simply decided not to risk the crew.

            The main difference in starting with Mriya is at times cheaper launch. Our programs were cut at take-off. There Skiff was not supposed to fall. But they held back the launch, and he fell.
          2. bif
            bif 19 December 2013 22: 58 New
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            Quote: Nayhas
            Duc because no one set such a task before the shuttle.

            What are you saying, the designers told you this, i.e. most of the landing (the simplest) on the machine - it’s possible, they set such a task, but the most difficult final stage - it, there wasn’t such a task ... "shuttle, which traditionally performs the last stage of landing on manual control (entering the atmosphere and braking to the speed of sound in both cases are fully computerized). "Could - done!
            Yes, and Buran was not intended for operation without a crew, they simply decided not to risk the crew

            Where is it written? Or is this your next "flight of thought."
            So before that the crews were at risk, but then everything changed dramatically and the presence of as many 2 trained crews for Buran was just a whim of the leadership. Ignorance is bliss.
            “Initially, the automatic landing system did not provide for the transition to manual control. However, test pilots and astronauts demanded that the designers include manual mode in the landing control system.
            ...The control system of the Buran ship was to perform all the actions automatically until the ship stopped after landing. Participation of the pilot in the management was not provided.. (Later, at our insistence, a backup manual control mode was still provided for the atmospheric portion of the flight when the ship was returned.)
            - S. A. Mikoyan "
        2. bif
          bif 19 December 2013 22: 42 New
          +3
          The X-37B experimental orbital aircraft is designed to perform a variety of tasks in Earth orbit at altitudes from 110 to 500 miles at speeds up to 17 500 miles / hour. The mass of the apparatus is about 4995 kg, length - 9 m, height - 2,85 m, wingspan about 4,5 m.

          Buran: length - 36,4 m, Wingspan - about 24 m, Starting weight - 105т. The cargo compartment holds payload weighing up to 30 t during take-off, up to 20 t during landing.
          The only space flight "Buran" made 15 November 1988 years. The spacecraft was launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome using the Energia launch vehicle. The flight duration was 205 minutes, the ship made two orbits around the Earth, after which it landed at the Yubileiny airdrome on Baikonur. The flight took place without a crew in automatic mode using the on-board computer and on-board software.
          2010 year... X-37B became the first spacecraft in US history to return to Earth and land completely independently in unmanned mode. According to the Boeing company, this aircraft clearly showed that unmanned spacecraft are able to go into orbit and safely return home

          This device clearly showed the backlog of the American space industry at least by 22 of the year.
    2. Asgard
      Asgard 19 December 2013 10: 51 New
      15
      ... this device was built after the robbery of the 90s. This is the development of the technology of Lozino-Lodz and his project of the Spiral Space Fighter ...
      This is an interceptor ...
      When landing "Buran" automatic systems were used and the original technology of approaching the GDP - this also went to the West (Boeing specialists probably used it))
      But in general it’s interesting, a new technology flies and not a single glitch, I already wrote about this, the Americans have a super-flair, they are constantly developing breakthrough technologies and NOT ONE DEADLINE))) which is strange, very ....
      Only one thing comes to mind .... WHO SHOULD DIRECT THEM, and very wisely ...
      in normal life, Americans are stupid, look at Bush))) Look at what they write on the shorts of t-shirts (do not eat the product)))) with the image of Betman (not a means for flying)))
      Strange IT is like ..... You do not find ????
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 19 December 2013 11: 22 New
        +9
        I don’t see anything strange. People from all over the world work for American enterprises in the military-industrial complex. As engineers and designers. The Americans themselves only direct cash flows from the Fed in the right direction. All their breakthroughs bought a huge amount of dough.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 19 December 2013 17: 16 New
          +7
          Quote: Wedmak
          People from all over the world work for American enterprises in the military-industrial complex. As engineers and designers. The Americans themselves only direct cash flows from the Fed in the right direction. All their breakthroughs bought a huge amount of dough.


          In the United States, only 50 million ethnic Germans. (17% of the population) Second Germany in fact. The same number of British and Irish people combined. But only in modern Germany it’s not much to see technological breakthroughs, even Merkel once said that where did they come from to be if Germany lost about 600 thousand. German scientists. designers and specialists who moved and work in the USA. All talented people mostly sooner or later find themselves there or work for them.
          If in 19 = 20 century Germany was the main engine of scientific and technical progress and development, then after WW2 the USA and the USSR became, and after the collapse of the USSR, the states became the sole hegemon,
      2. Begemot
        Begemot 19 December 2013 11: 45 New
        18
        Nothing strange, about 20 years ago I had an American Johnson outboard engine and its full copy Moscow -10, ours had to be quickly thrown away, and Johnson still walks, I gave it to artisan fishermen, they’re not overjoyed.
        We would not be ashamed to learn a lot from them. No matter how scolded the "stupid" amers, they have an engineering school, and designers, and technologists from God, and the culture of production at an altitude.
        To do this, you just need conditions for the promotion of talented people, and let the rest of the population be dumb, 1-2% of talents are enough for progress. As for the lack of misses - I do not agree, they just do not advertise them.
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      4. rolik
        rolik 19 December 2013 12: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Asgard
        NOT ONE DEADLINE)))

        Technology stealth.
      5. Heccrbq.3
        Heccrbq.3 19 December 2013 14: 52 New
        +1
        Volodya, wrote without looking at what you wrote, I apologize!
      6. postman
        postman 19 December 2013 17: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Asgard
        This is the development of the technology of Lozino-Lodzinsky and his project of the Spiral Space Fighter ...

        ??
        How to deal with this (?):
        -April 17, 1952, Bell proposed to build for the Air Force a manned bomber-missile, abbreviated as BoMi (Bomber-Missile).
        - “Brass Bell” (was proposed in December 1956)
        - “RoBo” ($ 860,000 in December 1956)
        - “HYWARDS” (The program was formalized in the requirements of SR-131 issued by ARDC on November 6, 1956, and HYWARDS received the direct designation: System 455L)
        - At the end of 1957, Erica and Dornberger at Bell began collaborating on the development of a two-stage passenger variant of the BoMi bomber. The steps of the system were to be connected as piggyback (the second step was "on the back" of the first.

        -X-20 Dyna Soar (Development was conducted from October 24, 1957 to December 10, 1963. The customer of the program is the US Air Force; the developer is Boeing)


        ....
        - The launch of the shuttle was launched on January 5, 1972, when US President Richard Nixon approved the NASA program.
        April 12, 1981 The first flight of the NASA Columbia space shuttle (Designation STS-1).

        X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle, what is being worked out on it?
        1.new heat-shielding coating (generation2) - hardened single-piece fiber insulating tiles impregnated with silica, which are much more durable,
        than the shuttle.
        2. Maneuvering in orbit
        3. The effect of long-term stay on the TOE on the materials and components of the shuttle
        4. Electromechanical control systems (NO HYDRAULIC in general)
        5. Operational readiness (US Air Force requirement)
        6. Cost of launch and maintenance (US Air Force Requirement) Atlas-5 launch vehicle, launch site - launch pad SLC-41 of Cape Canaveral airbase
        7. "something that is in the details" ....
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 19 December 2013 20: 47 New
          +2
          postman (3) SU Today, 17:19 ↑ New
          How to deal with this (?):
          April 17, 1952, Bell proposed the construction of a manned bomber missile for the Air Force,

          You talk about idea, technical designand Asgard mentioned Technologyare two big differences. After all, with us, he already flew in the 60s; with the Americans, flew after our "Perestroika". Also with hypersound: Wishlist were, but there is no result. But now: long-range anti-ship missiles and hypersonic missiles flew, and a lot of things appeared. WIG is missing. yes
          1. postman
            postman 19 December 2013 23: 11 New
            0
            Quote: shpuntik
            mentioned technology is two big differences

            The "Spiral" (Boot) cannot be regarded as a technology
            Why do not you consider the X-20 Dyna Soar as technology?
            He seemed to be "dumped" the same way, there was a charred one, I don’t remember him, well, or something nearby.
            In fact, only Space Shuttle can be considered a “technology”
            the rest is all "technical projects"


            Quote: shpuntik
            eat with us, he already flew, in the 60s; with the Americans, flew after our "Perestroika".

            come on. It is you specifically X-37 B you mean.
            And this?
            North American X-15
            Northrop hl-10
            or
            http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4221/ch2.htm
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 19 December 2013 23: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Postman
              the rest is all "technical projects"

              I agree.
            2. shpuntik
              shpuntik 20 December 2013 13: 20 New
              +2
              postman (3) SU Yesterday, 23:11 PM ↑ New
              It is you specifically X-37 B you mean.

              1) Yes, he specifically meant it. We are not talking about launch technology, because the X-20 is also not without Silbervogel Eugen Senger cost. Not that he said that the Americans did not have technologies, or did not try, namely about the leak of technologies of the USSR after Perestroika. I am sure that there is something in the X-37. What helped him become an industrial design. The same BOR-4, in the 80s already "plowed" with might and main. http://www.buran.ru/htm/bors.htm
              For example, our thermal protection, by the way reusable (the economy of the issue), could become this technology. This was a “foretaste stone,” as I understand it. Only two countries produced carbon fiber of the required quality: our Baikal Pulp and Paper Mill and the American one in Alaska.
              http://www.buran.ru/htm/tersaf.htm
              2) If we compare the achievements of the ShA and the USSR, not only in space, then almost always the USSR responded to threats, and in a short time was ahead. This is a paradox, but it is. And, it looks from the side, like a constant lag.
              So the “Spiral” appeared as an answer to the X-20 “Dyna Soar”.
              3) In addition, in the USSR, after the death of Stalin, the “anti-communist” group came to power, which artificially slowed down the projects:
              But the omnipotent Minister of Defense A.A. Grechko, having familiarized himself in the early 70s. with the Spiral, he expressed himself clearly and unequivocally: "We will not be engaged in fantasies." Further execution of the program stopped

              http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/spiral/spiral.htm
              4) Here is the evidence of the benefits of our technologies and developments: bought Tu-144 (participates in Boeing trials), S-300, NK-33, RD-180, Mosquito X-31A, face recognition technology for the protection of important objects, and so on things like that ...
              http://otello.gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1361946052.php
              http://voprosik.net/kak-prodali-amerike-giperzvukovoe-oruzhie/
              http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/202287


              PS Conclusion: the USSR was ahead in fundamental research of the USA and the NATO countries, since the economic system made it possible to direct huge resources to science without being commensurate with the loss ratio. The superpower was knocked down on take-off: they fed the socialist camp with weapons, sowed corn beyond the Arctic Circle, then openly betrayed Reykjavik, as well as the struggle with privileges and the cancellation of the 6th amendment, etc., etc. But apparently, this was destined to happen, since not everyone wanted to live the same, to be atheists, and so on ...
              1. postman
                postman 20 December 2013 14: 50 New
                0
                prvt
                1.X-37 B should not be considered correctly.
                Believe me (according to the information that I dig) it has nothing to do with the Spiral
                -TK there is generally a different stage and technology (I wrote)
                -something-what was used by them (Shuttle), but there are clear strict requirements of the military
                With Bor, etc., was directly connected (as an essno student), salesman wrote
                Eugene Senger's Silbervogel - SIGNIFICANTLY, the Americans got all the documentation, and something else + brains
                ======
                but this does not deny their own creativity ..
                “become our thermal protection” ... PERSONALLY (in practice) scored a whole package in the destroyed ICBM mine in Baikonur (it was completely filled up with it), part of it was given to Voenmekh, part is lying somewhere (balcony? garage? summer cottage?), what are we they didn’t do with it (starting from checking the residual induced radiation) ...
                Worse than Shatlovskaya, whatever they say
                "Only two countries produced carbon fiber of the required quality," the first Americans since the mid-40s. And there is nothing strange there - the technological base, the same as CPT
                http://www.buran.ru не совсем тот сайт,хротя и достаточно информативный и иллюстрированый...ведет публицист.
                A lot of "fiction". This is the "Broken sword (or shield) of the Empire", KalashnikovA

                2) This is my "love" (rocket science of the USSR). Yes .. But that was before the flights of Saturn.
                just ask: the first docking in orbit, compare UNION and APPOLON ... well and so on
                “So did the“ Spiral ”appeared as a response to the X-20“ Dyna Soar. ”
                3) I do not believe in this, just as the Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov and (they’ll kick now) were Gorbachev ...
                To affirm this means to affirm that:
                - the omnipotent (and indeed the most powerful) service of the KGB was a jester, and its employees were lolas (do not offend them, except for the 5th department VERY, VERY SUPER SPECIALS)
                PDA fiction
                -OK fiction
                the people were
                “We won’t be engaged in fantasies” he was right and it was pitiful to find the same realist not to initiate the Energy / Buran program, which was absolutely unnecessary for the National Defense and Defense of the country, which ate the USSR space program, and maybe the country's economy.
                4) I wrote and will repeat: Americans are EXTREMELY MERCANTIOUS CLEARING, business, nothing personal. IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECKLY BUY WHAT THEY DO NOT HAVE OR IN EFFICIENCY WHERE THEY DOUBLE THEY = BUY, without hesitation. was recently on topvar). YES AND DECEPE (HAARP-HAARP ... oooo goats)

                What is not needed -NO:
                Well, as an example, T-72, T-80, T-90 (not quite correctly essno), Station in armavir ... you can search further examples
                5) PS
                In some, yes, there were generally "sweets" ..
                In general, and as a whole, NO:
                - Nobel Prize winners
                -I read Santifik American (he was more serious then) before 1989
                -We shook (and well done) they have much more than they do with us (and it was difficult for them, see 3))
                6) "since not everyone wanted to live the same way" - such is the property of human nature, the same as the behavior of water in the gravitational field of the Earth.
                BUT not "not all", but all (practically) - I remember.
                EMPIRE DESTROYING FROM INSIDE (the top cannot, the lower classes do not want)
                wink
      7. Dilshat
        Dilshat 19 December 2013 22: 28 New
        +4
        What is surprising? Before, TsAGI worked for its state. And now for Boeing.
        1. Kir
          Kir 20 December 2013 19: 06 New
          +1
          I don’t want to be branded an ultra, but for the sake of interest, look who was sitting and sitting in TsAGI, but earlier the KGB held them back (not all of them, of course, but a decent part), and before that, similar departments, by the way and for many other similar institutions, the situation was similar, this I can assert since the parents worked in this system, and spells like you suffer from the conspiracy mania, in my case they won’t work.
      8. Ramadan
        Ramadan 19 December 2013 23: 40 New
        0
        About shortcuts
        They write this warning so that especially smart Americans would not condemn them that they would not be warned that it should not be eaten ... The nuances of their bureaucracy.
  3. Wedmak
    Wedmak 19 December 2013 09: 13 New
    +1
    Yes, yes ... deliver goods in compartment 2 by 0.6 meters. Coca-Cola chips or something? I always wondered at the American official versions, like children.
    It is unfortunate that our Buran died, otherwise everything would have turned out differently.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 December 2013 09: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Wedmak
      It is unfortunate that our Buran died, otherwise everything would have turned out differently.

      What and where would it turn? Would the Americans not create this unit? What did you mean by "ELSE ..."?
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 19 December 2013 09: 45 New
        +7
        Otherwise: for 10 years we would have been flying in orbits in a dozen Buranov. Let me remind you that it was November 1988, the Buran spacecraft, entered orbit on its own, made several orbits around the earth, and independently made a landing. Moreover, the onboard computer itself decided to go into a circle to correct the landing speed. And the Americans only in 2011 began testing their miracle. An order of magnitude smaller size and capacity.
        There you go, otherwise ...
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 19 December 2013 10: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Wedmak
          Otherwise: for 10 years we would have been flying in orbits in a dozen Buranov.

          Nope, would not fly. A dozen Buranov were not needed, and one was already a lot. There were quite enough Protons and Unions for those tasks that were set before the Russian cosmonautics.
          Quote: Wedmak
          And the Americans only in 2011 began testing their miracle. An order of magnitude smaller size and capacity.
          There you go, otherwise ...

          The presence or absence of Buran absolutely does not affect the development of US space. Why SSHA created the X-37B no one except them knows, just speculation. If you believe that before the United States could not create the X-37B and only now having reached the technical level that was already achieved in the USSR at the end of the 20th century, they were able to make an unmanned spacecraft returned, then you are clearly mistaken. X-37B was needed for a specific task, for the solution of which it is necessary.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 19 December 2013 10: 42 New
            +2
            There were quite enough Protons and Unions for those tasks that were set before the Russian cosmonautics.

            Maybe it's hard to argue here. But Buran was clearly a step forward. Given the technical base of the time, it is a big step.

            If you believe that before the United States could not create the X-37B and only now having reached the technical level that was already achieved in the USSR at the end of the 20th century, they were able to make an unmanned spacecraft returned, then you are clearly mistaken.

            The technical level of the United States is high, I can not argue with that. Only for some reason, technical execution suffers from a clear overabundance of complexity, sometimes to the detriment of capabilities.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 19 December 2013 11: 08 New
              +1
              Yes, but you forget how much THE ROAD WAS STARTED. It was more expensive than the Shuttle - for the Energy was almost completely disposable, but the boost blocks for the Shuttle were reusable, while the Tank + Booster blocks were much cheaper than 1 Energy.

              Moreover, even a relatively economical American project is closed due to the high cost. Their new project is Orion, and the private Dragon is more Apollo than the Shuttle. That is, we and they all returned back.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 19 December 2013 11: 26 New
                +2
                Then I agree with you. Yes, it was dear. But this is due to the fact that they ordered a copy of the shuttle, and not an independent development. Nevertheless, ours turned out to look just like a shuttle. Technical parameters were completely different, much higher.
                On the other hand, the practice of developing Buran and Energy was continued in other projects.
                1. gridasov
                  gridasov 5 January 2014 23: 28 New
                  +1
                  I argue somewhat alternatively and I can say with confidence that the conversation is not so much about the cost of flights, but more about their unpredictability. The time of the competition is almost over. It is necessary to master completely new principles of flight. It is the physical basis for justifying such new flights. Talking about the past does not give a strong impetus to a breakthrough into the future.
              2. rolik
                rolik 19 December 2013 12: 11 New
                +3
                Quote: donavi49
                . He was more expensive than the shuttle

                Compare the mass of the displayed cargo by Shuttle and Energy. It was necessary to launch once Energy and several Shuttles in order to equal the mass of the loaded cargo.
          2. Know-nothing
            Know-nothing 19 December 2013 11: 02 New
            -1
            Yes. Buran is another Soviet flag-stick, but here is clearly a systematic approach.
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 19 December 2013 10: 34 New
          +4
          Arguments other than minuses left?
    2. Yarik
      Yarik 19 December 2013 11: 57 New
      +2
      It’s even suitable for kinetic ammunition. You can be healthy as you squeeze balls.
  4. saag
    saag 19 December 2013 09: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: Wedmak
    It is unfortunate that our Buran died, otherwise everything would have turned out differently.

    The Buran would have stood as it stood until the roof collapsed on it, because there is nothing to launch it, there are no snap-ins for Energy, the cooperation that produced it ordered it to live for a long time, and there is no problem for it, because they did not create such a load in Russia, for example telescope, in order to certainly pull it out with a storm
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 19 December 2013 09: 48 New
      +5
      Come on you. If it were not for the collapse of the USSR and a deep ass for two decades, they would have found money for the carrier and cargo (the construction of the ISS!) And would have been tuned up. But there were people who were more expensive than perestroika and new thinking.
  5. saag
    saag 19 December 2013 10: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    Otherwise: for 10 years we would have been flying in orbits in a dozen Buranov.

    Unprofitable, the ISS was built in a wonderful way and without it, a one-time rocket will always be cheaper
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 19 December 2013 10: 32 New
      0
      Why is it not cost-effective? Considering that the Energy system could deliver not only the Buranes into orbit. If the Americans had their transporter a stupidly large tank with accelerators, then we had an almost complete modular system. This is exactly what is being embodied in the Angara project.
      1. castle
        castle 19 December 2013 11: 52 New
        0
        The stupidly large tank was just a fuel tank for the Shuttle engines. The modular Energia also had a large tank. And about the Angara, read the article in today's Izvestia. The article is called "The head of Roskosmos is ready to abandon the Angara"
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 19 December 2013 12: 51 New
          +1
          Izvestia is still a sharazhka, it’ll lie cheaply.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 19 December 2013 15: 14 New
            +1
            Read this article. Not everything is a lie.
    2. Letun
      Letun 19 December 2013 10: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: saag
      a single-use rocket will always be cheaper

      About "always" do not need to say. Almost any technical innovation by contemporaries was perceived with hostility (electricity, steam, steam engine, etc.) Now it’s ridiculous to recall this.
  6. maxvik
    maxvik 19 December 2013 10: 29 New
    0
    It looks like our spiral.
    The Spiral project, launched in the 1960s, was a response to the US-led X-20 Dyna Soar space interceptor-bomber reconnaissance program. (wikipedia)
    Only the X-20 was closed in the 63rd. And now they’re squeezing it.
  7. kimanas
    kimanas 19 December 2013 10: 48 New
    +1
    This is a copy of the larger X-40A. Judging by the fact that the Americans abandon our "Unions", they will soon fly on these shuttles.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 19 December 2013 11: 11 New
      +3
      No, they will fly on Dragons, which private traders make and in which NASA will redeem seats. In stock there is a state Orion, which was again taken out of a coma, but it will be in time later than our promising space ship.

      This is the Pentagon’s toy and he doesn’t want to give it back to NASA yet.
  8. Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 19 December 2013 11: 07 New
    +3
    Yes ... The fact that the USA has come off from us, and from all countries for 15-20 years in the field of UAVs is no longer speculation, but a statement of facts. The official NASA version of what the X-37B is for: "Payload Carriage to the ISS." But with all this, the UAV belongs to the Pentagon, in particular, the US Air Force. And, of course, it was impressive that the X-37B was in orbit for a year. Well, congratulations to the Americans on their success. I hope the SVR and the GRU are actively working for the good of the motherland, as was the case with nuclear weapons. wink

    Send all the "democrats" who gave the order to destroy the Buran to Syria, and into the hands of the militants if they are still alive! am
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 20 December 2013 01: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
      I hope the SVR and the GRU are actively working for the good of the motherland,

      That's right, only the homeland of the SVR is the USA.
  9. Krokodilych
    Krokodilych 19 December 2013 11: 12 New
    -1
    I read the version that the yellow streaks on the case are traces of the discharge of the chemical fluff from the chemical laser, they use compounds that give such an acid color.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 20 December 2013 01: 25 New
      -1
      No, from a disinfectant, and a nuclear-pumped X-ray laser.
      Exhausts are jets, not leaks and could not be on this side of the wings.
      1. Kir
        Kir 21 December 2013 16: 42 New
        -1
        But the mass of this miracle is what, even if it’s land-based (although it may not be negotiated), there were difficulties, by the way, if I don’t confuse tryndezh it has been going on for at least 30 odd years, and the laser itself as a weapon is still .... ..
  10. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 19 December 2013 11: 16 New
    0
    The budget of the Ministry of Defense of the USA still allowed to throw money, not counting. And, of course, entrepreneurs have proposed many projects. This thing is one of them. What can be hidden in the compartment 2 meters by 0.6 meters? Obama? You won’t even stick a manipulator in there. Kinetic weapons in space are not applicable due to Newton’s laws, unless you throw a dart in opposite directions, only inertialess, say a bunch of neutrons or a laser. It seems, after all, this is a model for working out space automation. Look forward to continuing with larger layouts where you can put something more substantial than Obama in the compartment. bully
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 19 December 2013 11: 32 New
      +1
      Kinetic weapons in space are not applicable due to Newton’s laws,

      You are in vain. A kilogram shell fired from a 50-ton shuttle will do a lot of trouble. The sheathing of today's ships is no more than 10 cm. It will pierce through and not sneeze.
      let's say a bunch of neutrons or a laser.

      Both have a beam divergence. Although small. But the question is different - the source of energy.
      What can be hidden in the compartment 2 meters by 0.6 meters?

      Dofiga balls from bearings with directional charges. Flies up to the satellite, bam and that's all ... a sieve in place of the satellite.
  11. Bort radist
    Bort radist 19 December 2013 11: 18 New
    0
    I really want to hope that this is not entirely a lag. How much can you work for a Guinness book. The first satellite, the first astronaut, Buran, ........ Prestige is good! But how hard it is to beat the trail in unseen places. Following the track is always easier and there is the opportunity to break ahead. Recall the Faus cartridge, the V-1, a nuclear weapon. China makes full use of both ours and western. "And the last will be the first." It's not evening yet, I hope.
  12. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 19 December 2013 11: 19 New
    0
    The last time the X-37B went into space on December 11, 2012, it was launched from the launch site at Cape Canaveral as part of the OTV-3 (Orbital Test Vehicle 3) mission. The general objectives of the mission, as well as information about the cargo on board the spacecraft, are strictly classified.

    It is interesting, but what do the aerospace defense systems observe in this case — in what orbits does it fly, with decreases in altitude (like the Shuttle once over the USSR), does it maneuver?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 December 2013 15: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Starover_Z
      It is interesting, but what do the aerospace defense systems observe in this case — in what orbits does it fly, with decreases in altitude (like the Shuttle once over the USSR), does it maneuver?

      photofixation, radar observation, change in external (orbit values) -internal (temperature, radiation ...) parameters
      In the USSR, besides everything, visual and video control was carried out (by crews of the World or spacecraft)
  13. Maxsh
    Maxsh 19 December 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    Yolas are fallen! Where is our "Spiral" ???? !!! They have been flying for three years, but ours could have wound up the third dozen ... Well, what a shame for the state !!!
  14. Begemot
    Begemot 19 December 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    It seems to me that this particular thing is not as scary as it is painted. Judging by the dimensions, it will not be possible to equip it with weapons capable of much (or did the Americans invent something very compact and omnipotent? I did not hear something). Another thing is that on this bird you can work out the technologies of an instant global impact and then replicate and enlarge the devices - you can agree with this and seriously think about counteraction. It is strange that our powers that be do not react in any way, or intelligence cannot get close, or there is no reason to worry, in any case, uncertainty is bad!
  15. saag
    saag 19 December 2013 11: 34 New
    0
    Quote: Begemot
    Another thing is that on this bird you can work out technologies of instant global impact.

    Yeah, sort of barrage of ammunition, put 10 pieces into orbit and they hang out there for years until the right moment and you can’t call them weapons, because there’s no explosive on board
  16. castle
    castle 19 December 2013 11: 42 New
    +2
    Good health to all.
    If I am not mistaken, the first civilian aircraft with automatic landing equipment (Autoland) in the CAT III category was certified on 28.12.1968. It was a Sud Aviation Caravelle aircraft. Already in 1972, civilian aircraft could land and even taxi to the parking lot and stop without the participation of pilots. Need, of course, an airport equipped for automatic landing - Instrument landing system CAT III (A, B). For new airplanes, the Autoland system is installed in the standard layout, but there are orders in the context of what the carrier saves when it is agreed that this system will not be delivered to the aircraft. Usually pilots put their planes in hand. From a psychological point of view, it’s calmer.
  17. USNik
    USNik 19 December 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: Begemot
    It seems to me that this particular thing is not as scary as it is painted.

    This is so far there are not many of them, if such birds fly under 30-40, then there will be a reason to think silly and not to beat them fucking? Because even a non-nuclear 1000kg correctable bomb that fell into the General Staff can do irreparable things. But most likely the X-37B is actually experiencing anti-satellite weapons.
    Although if you look at all this from the point of view of conspirators, it turns out "carcasses of the light throw a grenade": belay
    The second start of the Boeing occurred on March 5, 2011. ... During the period that the X-37 was in orbit, Russia lost the Express-AM4 satellite, the Progress M-12M cargo ship, three dual-use Meridian satellites, and the Phobos-Grunt station. Within a month after landing the X-37, we lost two of the latest communications satellites - Express-MD2 and Telkom-3. During the same period, Iran lost two Fajr Earth observation satellites. ... The fact that the catastrophe of our rocket occurred after the landing of the X-37, let no one bother. The rocket plane could leave military equipment in orbit.
    what More Paranoia
    http://matholimp.livejournal.com/1239059.html#
  18. Forest
    Forest 19 December 2013 12: 35 New
    0
    And then strange meteorites fall.
  19. shurup
    shurup 19 December 2013 12: 59 New
    +2
    I will sell a used X-37B without dutik at the price of scrap metal. Pickup from my garden. Suggestions in PM.
  20. spirit
    spirit 19 December 2013 13: 19 New
    +1
    37, like 47! Most likely just a break-in technology. I think in a short time the device will appear larger than 37 and at times.
  21. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 19 December 2013 13: 28 New
    0
    It seems that, indeed, there is a run-in of the delivery of nuclear charge (s) into orbit, carrying out long combat duty, checking control systems on duty, and then there will be a surprise strike from orbit.
    By lifting 50-100 of such units into orbit, you can keep the Earth population subordinate.
    Well, except for those participants who have heard nothing about the USA. )
    1. Andrew 447
      Andrew 447 19 December 2013 15: 43 New
      +1
      50-100 pieces, this could become a group of “kamikaze" apparatuses for hitting our ICBMs at the top of the ballistic trajectory and, contrary to that, the height of the trajectory and orbit suspiciously coincide. And the ICBMs in this section of the flight are very vulnerable. I hope this is my fantasy impossible with amers.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 19 December 2013 16: 10 New
        +1
        And ICBMs in this flight area are very vulnerable.

        I may not understand everything ... ICBM is vulnerable in the initial phase of dispersal. If it has gone beyond the atmosphere, it's too late to rush about, heaps of false targets, a curtain of small fragments from undermining the breeding stage, passive interference, etc. And all this economy is flying at an enormous speed. Even a nuclear explosion on the warhead trajectory can be overcome. In this porridge, select and hit real warheads with a size slightly smaller than the average person ... well, I don’t know ...
  22. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 19 December 2013 13: 47 New
    +2
    Lagging behind. In space, in lasers, in drones, in control networks.
    Only the NWF is saving thanks to God. And the prospects are weak, science is undermined by the reform of education. The economy is undermined by theft.
  23. boom_bah
    boom_bah 19 December 2013 15: 00 New
    0
    [quote = Begemot] It is strange that our powers that be do not react in any way ...
    How do you know?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 December 2013 15: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: boom_bah
      It is strange that our powers that be do not react in any way ...

      :)))
      The fact that they do not write in newspapers and do not give interviews does not mean that they do not react ...
      PS: all space objects, including debris, are monitored around the clock: optical, radar, recording the slightest changes
      1. boom_bah
        boom_bah 19 December 2013 15: 22 New
        +1
        Rus, this is not for me, I also think so, I quoted)
      2. Know-nothing
        Know-nothing 19 December 2013 15: 26 New
        0
        What did Phobos Grunt look for so long?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 19 December 2013 16: 11 New
          +1
          This Roskosmos long sought. SPRN radars must have detected the object, but did not know what it was.
  24. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 19 December 2013 18: 38 New
    0
    It’s time for amers to shut off oxygen, Atlas 5, which displays this pepelats, flies into space on the Energomashevsky RD-180, the shortsightedness of our powers that be is amazing. Probably too much was given to someone on the paw.
  25. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 December 2013 19: 06 New
    0
    it is this drone that our people blame for the abnormal heat of 2010
  26. Power
    Power 19 December 2013 22: 29 New
    0
    Bluff from a series of times by Reagan SOI. With what will this hybrid toaster with pan fry down satellites?
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 20 December 2013 01: 30 New
      0
      X-ray or gamma ray of small divergence.
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      2. studentmati
        studentmati 20 December 2013 01: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Volkhov
        X-ray or gamma ray of small divergence.

        Laughter, laughter, and our "partners" do not sleep and continue to move forward with a firm step. If they fly, then they know why and why.
  27. studentmati
    studentmati 19 December 2013 23: 04 New
    +3
    Mysterious American spacecraft

    I don’t see anything mysterious. Let's face it: X37B is not a technological breakthrough, but the daily, ongoing work of scientists and technologists (immigrants from the USSR, by the way, too). While in the 90s of the last century, we rushed to the worst of it, and the us state continued all the planned work. So we have what we have? sad
  28. Glagol
    Glagol 20 December 2013 00: 00 New
    +1
    100% military apparatus. A satellite fighter, possibly a bomber.
    Americans run for supremacy, the most democratic country in the world.
  29. Apologet insane
    Apologet insane 20 December 2013 06: 09 New
    +1
    But in two years we will have the best sniper rifle!
  30. Power
    Power 20 December 2013 12: 32 New
    0
    While the Chubais and Serdyukovs are free, we will roll samples and wooden models on the Red Square.
    1. Kir
      Kir 20 December 2013 19: 08 New
      0
      Well, past them, there’s also a hydra called cosmopolitans and the 5th column, we won’t block their oxygen bunch and we’ll flounder in a known substance.
  31. Kir
    Kir 20 December 2013 19: 16 New
    -1
    According to the article itself, I did not quite understand why the measures in different systems are given, which cannot be translated into SI? With regards to Buran, I fully support those who talk about our superiority in the Fully Autonomous Landing, moreover, the mass of the device was much larger, and babble like de Yankee something ......, well, people who like comfort and pressure they voluntarily did something on the super button manually, well, well ......, and there are questions on the materials used in the design, as far as I remember, only the glass fiber composites consistently held first place, but on the other where, the truth, maybe they’ve bought it before collapsing, it will become from them.
  32. Cristall
    Cristall 21 December 2013 15: 56 New
    0
    you need not guess, but it is advisable to find out what his goals are. Even to work on its capabilities and provide for measures of protection and counteraction.
    Of course it is for some reason created. It’s been flying for a year now, and we all think and wonder. Is there a set of measures (even on paper) to counter such devices in cases of military use?
    In the abnormal heat of 2010, Haarp was blamed ... and whom they just did not blame. Can the sun blame? All the same, sun.
    We have in fashion (for strategy) implemented models and properties of the X 37B as a space fighter-bomber.
  33. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 December 2013 00: 17 New
    0
    Good thing for intelligence. You can dive into the atmosphere, shoot and back into orbit. And it’s also possible to store all kinds of figs, to collect them in orbit. And it would be time for us to stop insisting on the victories and gains of Soviet scientists and designers. Because those victories remained in the distant past and there is no return to them. We would now have to create a basic level strong. Cosmodromes, infrastructure ...
  34. i.xxx-1971
    i.xxx-1971 3 January 2014 10: 48 New
    0
    This is a model. Work out, adjust, bring to mind and make in real time. Then the cargo compartment and opportunities will increase. And Yuri Solomonov will continue to push us his bullshit.
  35. emeldos2
    emeldos2 2 February 2014 23: 11 New
    0
    we need a space plane .. that could fly into space and back to earth and not with small wings. only swept-melting and energy carrier nuclear engine (installation) we do not need a trifle a lot of hemorrhoids .. do huge and beautiful at once.
  36. JETFLAG
    JETFLAG 7 September 2017 19: 34 New
    0
    And exactly in the article - the device X-37B? on my latest link from youtube it looks more like a missile bomb.
    https://youtu.be/trNsXrJRDHQ
  37. JETFLAG
    JETFLAG 7 September 2017 19: 37 New
    0
    The wrong device is depicted in the article.