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A video in which Chinese soldiers torture recruits triggered a scandal in the country

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A video in which Chinese soldiers torture recruits triggered a scandal in the country

A wave of public condemnation caused a video in which Chinese soldiers are torturing newcomers. Across the country, people wonder why hooligans are in the ranks of the army, reports The Times of India.


In the 15-minute video, camouflaged soldiers beat young cadets. The recruits of the People's Armed Police became victims of bullying. After each fall, the cadets were forced to rise, and the beating continued. The soldiers beat the novices with their heads against the wall, beat them with wooden sticks, tied them with belts. Then they wiped the blood from their faces, patted them on the shoulder, and continued the torture.

The authenticity of the video is already installed. The video was shot in the city of Wuhai in Inner Mongolia. Tried newcomers soldiers of the People's Liberation Army.

The scandalous video gained popularity on the Internet and caused a wave of public outrage. “We trust these hooligans to our security and protection of the homeland,” said one of the users of the Weibo Internet resource, on which the video first appeared. “What is the use of people who are so cruel towards their fellow countrymen?”, Another user wonders.

Note that Chinese law provides for military duty for men from 18 years, volunteers are recruited for service up to 49 years. The Chinese army is the largest in the world. In total, in the ranks of the armed forces of the Middle Kingdom, there are now 2,3 million military personnel. However, this is not the limit - in 1949, the Chinese army consisted of 6 million troops.
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  1. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 16 December 2013 11: 21
    24
    Hazing she in Africa (China) Hazing ...
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 16 December 2013 11: 32
      34
      Hazing is ineradicable, only in each part is it different somewhere stronger, somewhere weaker.

      In this form, I think this seven grandfathers were unlucky, as well as their bosses. The Chinese justice machine is very serious. And I think (yes, I am sure) there will be an exemplary trial process.
      1. Canep
        Canep 16 December 2013 12: 33
        +3
        Quote: Rustam
        And I think (yes I'm sure) will be an exemplary show trial.

        The process will definitely be indicative and I won’t be surprised if the execution is public. American grandfathers are also in business:
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        2. Canep
          Canep 16 December 2013 12: 40
          10
          Then I came across such a joke. Americans in battle! Watch everyone !:
          1. DuraLexSedLex.
            DuraLexSedLex. 16 December 2013 13: 03
            +3
            Most of all I was pleased how they fit into one sartier in 10m, and in the second the same video also with weapons)
            1. Canep
              Canep 16 December 2013 13: 18
              +8
              Know your place!
              1. Apologet.Ru
                Apologet.Ru 17 December 2013 00: 17
                0
                hi
                More on the topic -
          2. Lesnik
            Lesnik 16 December 2013 20: 42
            0
            I liked the vaunted super-duper javelin, the flip-flops and the reaction of calculation and in general the selection of the super professional Amer army neighing laughing
          3. Freelancer7
            Freelancer7 16 December 2013 20: 54
            +2
            No, this is Hochma, but if you look at the real battle in Afghanistan, it’s not warriors, but just stupid teenagers who went to the war to shoot ...


            They sit behind the wall firing all the time, and are not even afraid that there is a house behind, which wall is easy to get from the grant and fragments to hit all 6-10 people sitting in the alley. Also, the last person at the wall doesn’t even make an effort to keep the street - just do it without thinking, sits at the edge of the wall and does not even look around the corner. All firing, grenades - just ammunition to the wind. Vobschem sit and wait until the pinwheel is suitable. In general, as in the 3-D action, like some kind of Call of Duty 4. And this is not the only video showing how they are fighting - there are more epic ones.
            1. alone
              alone 16 December 2013 22: 02
              0
              maybe this is a staged fight especially for a journalist?))
              1. Freelancer7
                Freelancer7 17 December 2013 01: 06
                0
                It is unlikely that the bullets then give away dust on the wall ... True, not one 300th ...
          4. Andrew 58
            Andrew 58 16 December 2013 21: 08
            +1
            like that would look and look wink
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 16 December 2013 13: 14
        12
        Quote: Rustam
        Hazing is ineradicable, only in each part is it different somewhere stronger, somewhere weaker.

        Is that what you think?
        If the commander is in place, hazing is not. If he spit it out and let it go by chance, then it is.
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 16 December 2013 13: 51
          +6
          Quote: Vovka Levka
          If the commander is in place, hazing is not.

          A lot depends on the officers. But they cannot eradicate bullying. But forms of manifestation of hazing can.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 16 December 2013 14: 58
            +1
            Maybe they have learned from us how to beat their own, so that strangers are afraid.
          2. DimychDV
            DimychDV 16 December 2013 18: 42
            +3
            My son in osnaz served a year. Radio intelligence. I have never even received a nickle: as soon as something happens - everyone goes in for sports, all teams - just running, all movements - according to the charter. I was there - impressed. 25 years before, I served nearby in a communications training course (cadet, then permanent staff). My colleagues later came for graduates from different schools - they say that our school is still a pioneer camp. Apparently, yes, but it was not easy for me to serve in the economic platoon. But in the training companies - there is more to the order. Although it also all depends on the sergeant, and on the officers in the first place. But you won’t translate them into a barracks position - in the evenings, the shizos in the barracks begin.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 16 December 2013 15: 36
        18
        Quote: Rustam
        Hazing it is ineradicable -


        My father-in-law is a combat officer. Africa -60s. So he served after 45 and told how the old servicemen called them "sons" and shared the latter. The father told the same. And after Khrushchev decided to take convicts into the army, they established their own order there.
    2. askort154
      askort154 16 December 2013 15: 52
      +7
      ShturmKGB ... Hazing she in Africa (China) hazing.

      I would add bullying hazing discord:
      1) in any male team, especially in the army, they never liked "mom's
      sons "- who can do nothing, or who do not want to do anything in the service, or
      neglected colleagues. How brought up? - forced type:
      hem the doorways, scrub the latrine for senior employees who are not particularly amenable to
      arranged a "dark". Such was the case in Soviet times.
      2) hazing 90s, all the previous, plus increased: give for vodka or cigarettes,
      to run for vodka and, in general, to breed and punish "sucker", that is, turning into an ordinary, cruel crime.
      3) the most disgusting: all of the above, plus at the behest of the "educators", or national grouping.
      In the Chinese video, most likely, behind the scenes, the upbringing of the soldier’s
      The "educated", all dressed strictly in uniform, after each blow, silently take a stand "at attention." So, there will not be any "shootings".
      1. KCC
        KCC 16 December 2013 19: 03
        +1
        Most likely, the beating was carried out quietly from the command, because they so wiped the broken nose of the soldier so early, instructed him where he had broken it, after which the beating ended and the soldier was forced to take off his uniform to see if hematomas had settled. It is interesting to know the results of the investigation of this video.
      2. KCC
        KCC 16 December 2013 19: 03
        0
        Most likely, the beating was carried out quietly from the command, because they so wiped the broken nose of the soldier so early, instructed him where he had broken it, after which the beating ended and the soldier was forced to take off his uniform to see if hematomas had settled. It is interesting to know the results of the investigation of this video.
      3. Kasym
        Kasym 16 December 2013 19: 50
        +3
        ascort154, hello! I agree . Everything is too "ostentatious". The punches are more like jabs, the same slaps and kicks. No anger. Some kind of window dressing. We would have stopped in the "background" immediately.
        Actually an interesting topic. For example, many people believe that hazing is always harsh at the "points". Type a lot of "stray" for which the disbat is crying. But this is not the case. Collectives are small, so any "conflict" passes through everyone (so to speak). Chaos, injustice is felt, if not immediately, then over time. Then you can hear the type: "Something I went too far."
        It is not realistic to hide or hide from work or service - everything is in plain sight. We have always had this work or service behind the eyes. And a lot depends on the commanders. He served at the airfield - 300 days a year "combat". The rest of the time, the "construction battalion" - the fence around the unit was cast from cinder-concrete, then boxes for trucks, then a sports room, then targets at the training ground, then the construction of a house for the commander and early. communication (immediately behind the fence of the part), then a Finnish bath, then a sawmill. In the end, we prepared such supplies for ourselves for the winter - watermelons until December, jam 120 3 liter cans for 30 people (we opened 1 can on weekends), sugar, all sorts of vegetables. So the commanders didn’t let the bastard drive - they went to the edge of the case to unload the carriages (TV set, billiards, pear and gloves, music center and sweets with cookies for tea drinking in the bathhouse, a tennis table and Dembilsky we earned ourselves). And this is the main thing - from idleness and "roof" eats.
        We had one informer in our unit. And the worst punishment we had was not to hand out cuffs, but simply not to talk. Try to freeze something after such "punishment". I have never been in the place of such a punished person. To imagine that no one is talking to you for a month (no one !!! even your peers, your call! Complete disregard!) Is creepy. And for the speed of understanding the ongoing process, do not stick a cuff, well, I don't even know. Some people go nowhere without it - until you poke a mug like that you can't learn anything. And sometimes they applied themselves and had to themselves - without this, in the men's team, no matter how.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 16 December 2013 19: 53
          +4
          And lastly, a soldier's bike. Summer, heat, no "flights" - they sent the commander's house to build. Ensign Petrenko set the task in the morning - while it was cool they managed to do a lot, the rest for the evening. We come from lunch. Nothing to do . And here ... . I had a "conflict" with the foreman. For him, I was a "Decembrist" (the events of 1986 in Alma-Ata) and target number 1 for not being able to force me to knock on Pashka (he almost knocked the foreman on the head drunk, and I was an eyewitness - he barely dragged him away from he, who in the end threw his boots, which were on the porch, so that he flew into the barracks along with another boot that hit him on the back of the neck). And the foreman began to rot me in the pit. As I remember, I wrote out 18 outfits. 1 outfit - you scoop out a drain hole with a bucket from 22 pm to 1 am ... And I decided to pin him up. I summon the newly arrived Uzbek, the spirit is shorter. Itself already "scoop" - a year served. I tell him: "Now we will prepare a special batch, go go to the foreman and ask him for a bucket ... for menstruation." And he did not know Russian, only in the army he began to master. So I had to make them learn this word. The guys also began to show interest. Who is already pulling the bucket, who is repeating this mysterious word like a manru. At the same time, everyone knew that the entire composition of the fathers-commanders was driven to billiards. They already had a habit - billiards after dinner. And we are in the evening. And then the orderly tells: "Babay falls into the barracks and asks where to find the foreman. Well, I nodded at the billiard room (the door is 3 meters away). He pours in there and says. Come on, foreman, we will have menstruation, we will knead. Everyone there crashed down with laughter. The sergeant-major grabbed Babai and to us. The guys, seeing the sergeant-major, grabbed shovels and started to pretend to be active. Well, he came to me.
          “Basmach, your mother, did you send him to me?”
          - Why, foreman?
          - Do not you know ? I'll give you a demobilization! Wait, your mother! In addition to you there is no one to come up with, I give you 10 outfits for the pit! Bend the bitch!
          “So what happened?”
          - Babai, who sent you with a bucket for ...? Speak your mother!
          Babai, I already realized that something is not right and ...
          - Do not understand yours ...
          I turned on the fool to the fullest - I mugged in confusion. The boys, meanwhile, are crawling to the roof, climbing onto the roof, and into other rooms. And everywhere, laughter begins to be heard. The foreman is red as a cancer, screaming already drooling. I must say everyone did not like him. From officers to us - a soldier. It was scum. Ensign Artyushchenko. He, instead of taking a hut to live in his copter, in the barracks. And for all the partisan. I got everyone. To the commander with daily reports about us, the soldier with his supervision, especially in the evening. I no longer remember how much he eventually slapped me outfits. But they laughed heartily.
          1. Shoma-1970
            Shoma-1970 16 December 2013 22: 44
            +1
            And WHAT are the ensigns, do all of them have Petrenko?))))
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 17 December 2013 02: 15
              +1
              Ensign Petrenko - was a cool man. He was responsible for the work of the radar.
        2. S-200
          S-200 17 December 2013 00: 12
          +1
          Quote: Kasym
          The snitch in our unit was one

          Counterintelligence never works with a single source
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 17 December 2013 02: 19
            +1
            S-200. Proven exactly one. And so who knows. request
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      5. 77bob1973
        77bob1973 16 December 2013 23: 24
        0
        The fact of the matter is that they beat the soldiers competently, their fists did not use the "slap in the face" from which there are no abrasions or bruises.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 December 2013 23: 24
      0
      Bay their, to others were afraid! repeat
    4. S-200
      S-200 17 December 2013 00: 07
      +1
      FUCKING STOS! request THIS IS A CASARMA ....
  2. smart ass
    smart ass 16 December 2013 11: 22
    +8
    Hmmm, just like in RUSSIA mother
    1. Sosland
      Sosland 16 December 2013 11: 33
      13
      Scum everywhere the same color ........
  3. Airman
    Airman 16 December 2013 11: 24
    +7
    They foster a "fighting spirit" so that once they are captured, they are not afraid of torture. And the Chinese are not all right with discipline.
  4. makarov
    makarov 16 December 2013 11: 26
    -3
    This is the American way of life ... and they still dare to snort at us scornfully, considering savages ..
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 16 December 2013 11: 30
      +5
      Quote: makarov
      This is the American way of life.

      where does America go? here a conversation like about the Chinese request
      1. makarov
        makarov 16 December 2013 11: 39
        +3
        and on whose films do the Chinese whales learn to behave this way?
        1. avant-garde
          avant-garde 16 December 2013 11: 48
          +7
          where does the movie. Fools do not sow, do not plow; they themselves are born! Hazing is everywhere and American films are to blame?
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 16 December 2013 13: 17
            -1
            Quote: avant-garde
            where does the movie. Fools do not sow, do not plow; they themselves are born! Hazing is everywhere and American films are to blame?

            Immediately you can see the Myrican patriot, he immediately forgot about the role of food, both spiritual and material. Man is what he consumes. Were you born that way or are you a product of upbringing? Maybe the Hollywood conveyor does not participate in the formation of the worldview with its tens of thousands of films a year, maybe our film industry does not experience the influence and competition with the "world of dreams"?
            1. Doctorleg
              Doctorleg 16 December 2013 13: 31
              +4
              Quote: Ivan.
              Quote: avant-garde
              where does the movie. Fools do not sow, do not plow; they themselves are born! Hazing is everywhere and American films are to blame?

              Immediately you can see the Myrican patriot, he immediately forgot about the role of food, both spiritual and material. Man is what he consumes. Were you born that way or are you a product of upbringing? Maybe the Hollywood conveyor does not participate in the formation of the worldview with its tens of thousands of films a year, maybe our film industry does not experience the influence and competition with the "world of dreams"?

              Was bullying in the USSR also influenced by American films? We didn’t see them, but hazing was- he himself experienced
              1. Ivan.
                Ivan. 16 December 2013 13: 51
                +1
                Quote: DoctorOleg
                Was bullying in the USSR also influenced by American films? We didn’t see them, but hazing was- he himself experienced

                I also experienced it, and my opinion is from the very top, but its forms depend on external circumstances, Hollywood certainly did not create it, but only aggravated this phenomenon, which, in my opinion, was useful at its birth. In two or two thousand words the topic does not raise. In my opinion the hazing problem is progressing; hazing of 50-60x is no match for hazing of 80-90x similarly to the modern one.
            2. avant-garde
              avant-garde 16 December 2013 13: 31
              0
              if a person does not need to watch films, he doesn’t need to watch films, but if he is a healthy person, he will cure white from black.
              1. Ivan.
                Ivan. 16 December 2013 13: 58
                0
                Quote: avant-garde
                if a person does not need to watch films, he doesn’t need to watch films, but if he is a healthy person, he will cure white from black.

                That is, education does not mean anything, it smacks of racism. From your point of view, when are they born, do I need to take some measures to identify, isolate or even more? Or is it not necessary to change anything, all of which are born and nothing can be changed?
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 16 December 2013 11: 28
    +6
    everything is like everywhere else, in any army in the world, plus or minus more cruelty and that's it ... during the years of service in the Gsvg, I visited the comrades in units, there is the same hazing, they also drive "bobbleheads" ...
    1. makarov
      makarov 16 December 2013 12: 19
      0
      And here, all companies had one call, and there was no where from hazing to take ..
  6. AK-47
    AK-47 16 December 2013 11: 31
    +5
    It must be assumed that the authorities have already drawn the relevant conclusions, the perpetrators (about 100 people) were punished, of which 10 were shot, as is customary with them.
    1. Sosland
      Sosland 16 December 2013 11: 35
      +2
      yes, these "grandfathers" are not to be envied now
    2. Yarik
      Yarik 16 December 2013 12: 05
      +2
      AK-47 Today, 11:31
      It must be assumed that the authorities have already drawn the relevant conclusions, the perpetrators (about 100 people) were punished, of which 10 were shot, as is customary with them.


      From a mortar, focusing on the Korean experience. wink
  7. olegff68
    olegff68 16 December 2013 11: 31
    +8
    And here they seemed rot !!! Is there something familiar about her?!?!
    At the same time, for some reason I’m sure that in Uzh China, measures to further prevent them will be taken and they will not be shy in the means to take these measures.
  8. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 16 December 2013 11: 38
    +3
    CNOR is weak in that it is too numerous, and is recruited from different nationalities. So there is nothing surprising in the fact that there are NO discipline in such a horde.
    1. Walking
      Walking 16 December 2013 19: 21
      0
      There is discipline there, tough with the expectation of Asia, even at times brutal. These "heroes" will of course be punished, as well as the one who was filming, just for taking the dirty linen out of the hut.
  9. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 16 December 2013 11: 43
    +7
    Now they will shake the whole army.
    And they have it big! Enough for a long time.
    Let's see how it ends. Surfaced - good. The Chinese do not like to stand on ceremony with criminals.
    This case is here.
  10. Anper
    Anper 16 December 2013 11: 43
    -5
    We trust these bullies
    Is this hooliganism? And I could not watch the movie to the end. And some comments are more philosophical. You don’t be offended, comrades military and not military, but still men are cattle! Regardless of nationality.
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 16 December 2013 11: 59
      14
      And what about all the peasants? request I worked in a female team for a while, here there is soooooooo babavschina that men's hazing didn’t lie next to it))) laughing
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 16 December 2013 12: 05
        +9
        Quote: Eternal demobilization
        taaaaaaaak babavschina

        when I go to the accounting department at the factory so I don’t have to beat me there, it’s worth such a fake thing that you can’t stand it for more than 3 minutes; laughing laughing. an untrained person will not survive in such conditions laughing
        1. Anper
          Anper 16 December 2013 13: 14
          0
          Yelling - do not beat in the chest with my feet. I just can not understand - or they are all the same pretended to be beaten sometimes, or they suffer. Because there are such blows that they cannot get up right away, and sometimes they get up, as if nothing had happened. But, all the same, it’s impossible to watch how that slender little one is beaten in the background. It’s true, then they kind of left him. Maybe, after all, they’re not beating so hard? Well, you won’t be able to stand upright, if you are in pain.
    2. nerd.su
      nerd.su 16 December 2013 12: 41
      10
      Quote: Anper
      Don’t be offended, comrades military and not military, but still men are cattle! Regardless of nationality.

      Yes, we are not offended. We traditionally answer - all the women are fools laughing
      And we continue to philosophize on hazing. For such is life.
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. 16 December 2013 13: 30
      +4
      Quote: Anper
      . You don’t be offended, comrades military and not military, but all the same men are cattle! Regardless of nationality.

      Well, at least independently .... In similar situations, women behave similarly and no less cruelty, I will not give examples, they are also not attractive. If conditions for hazing are created, it will be.
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 December 2013 15: 38
      +4
      Quote: Anper
      but all the same, men are cattle! Regardless of nationality.


      Yeah. Mighty. Smelly and hairy.
    5. datolith
      datolith 16 December 2013 20: 57
      +1
      To begin with, there is simply no such concept of hazing. And if there is no definition then hazing can be called anything. For example, I received a comment for the fact that I hemmed a corner (who served will understand) and that hazing begins with this. I am st.
  11. tchack
    tchack 16 December 2013 11: 45
    +4
    Now they will put everyone to the wall and the issue will be resolved ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 December 2013 15: 42
      +1
      Quote: tchack
      Now they will put everyone to the wall and the issue will be resolved ...


      Well, something like this. Only mass executions will save the homeland.
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  12. Nayhas
    Nayhas 16 December 2013 11: 51
    +3
    Yeah, how familiar this is ...
  13. Eternal demobilization
    Eternal demobilization 16 December 2013 11: 56
    10
    Probably hazing, to one degree or another, was still under Tsar Gorokh))). Old people almost always had priority. And if you think about it, hazing (in the good sense of the word, and not like on a roller), is still needed. But this is my subjective opinion. I myself served urgently, and I know firsthand about hazing, and grandfathers are also different. soldier
  14. Jan Krumins
    Jan Krumins 16 December 2013 11: 57
    +3
    The soldier was also "brought up" at one time. Bad heredity ...
  15. sonik-007
    sonik-007 16 December 2013 12: 04
    +6
    Hazing is a vicious circle - you came to the army, they beat you. You became a sergeant - you beat young people for the sake of "education". And so in a circle.
    Of course, no one denies that it is either impossible or ineffective to educate particularly stubborn newcomers in another way, but SUCH the scale of hazing does not at all indicate the scale of tight newcomers ...

    So, you need to start with yourself - became a sergeant, do not beat your subordinates. And you beat - in a punishment cell and in court. The junior officers also note - that would control the sergeants snickering.
  16. IGS
    IGS 16 December 2013 12: 09
    +3
    Whatever measures he took, "hazing" was and will be both with them and with us, to one degree or another. And it depends only on the commander in what form it will manifest itself.
  17. Vadim12
    Vadim12 16 December 2013 12: 32
    +1
    You can't do without it. We also had a "hazing relationship", though not very much unlimited. If moderately tolerant, then you yourself will "drive" the young.
  18. polly
    polly 16 December 2013 12: 36
    +4
    Yes, it’s not sweet for them even without hazing; combat training is peculiar, however! belay

    China, Anhui Province. Training of Chinese soldiers. (Photo: China Daily / Reuters)
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 16 December 2013 14: 02
      +1
      Quote: polly
      Yes, it’s not sweet for them even without hazing; combat training is peculiar, however!

      I have been looking at them for a long time and I think that people in China are consumables.
      1. Walking
        Walking 16 December 2013 19: 34
        0


        Given how many of them, yes. The last big war in which the Chinese participated was the Korean War of 1950-1953 and the tactics there were peculiar — the offensive by human waves.
  19. Christian
    Christian 16 December 2013 12: 40
    +3
    About the Chinese from history: They never took prisoners, capturing the city completely slaughtered the population (even in internecine wars). The Chinese are non-ethnic (Han Chinese, Manchurians, Uyghurs, Pamiris, and others. These are terrible people in their cruelty.
  20. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 December 2013 12: 51
    +5
    When is there nothing to be done about not kicking young people? So what’s going on? In my bullying appears where the stupid commander and soldiers have nothing to do, what are they going to the army to scoff at you? How can this be justified? To the wall, how the commander, and all this kodlu. And if there is a lot of energy and free time, then the sports camp is waiting for you ahead.
  21. Ivan.
    Ivan. 16 December 2013 12: 55
    +2
    “We trust these hooligans with our safety and protection of the homeland,” said one of the users of the Weibo Internet resource, on which the video first appeared. “What is the use of people who are so cruel to their compatriots?”, Another user asks.

    These "hooligans" are just mongrels on a short leash and, by order, will slaughter anyone of their own, the fact that they are so cruel to their own hints at anger and indifference to strangers that the generals need. In general, the same problems as in any army that recruits yesterday's schoolchildren, even at the age of 15 they would gain even more cruelty. Although the increase in violence around the world is evident and it is interesting whether this was planned by the globalizers or it is a side effect, it is obvious that fear and violence are increasing all over the world.
  22. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 December 2013 13: 08
    +2
    ... volunteers are hired before the age of 49.- ENTRY among the whales dumbfounded by the introduction of Russified Chinese. Oh...
  23. Megatron
    Megatron 16 December 2013 13: 15
    +1
    And they don’t write Uigurs with toothpaste, Sanjeopin for example?
  24. Nayhas
    Nayhas 16 December 2013 13: 21
    +3
    China, we do not only copy tanks and planes, well, what kind of people, they themselves can’t come up with anything ...
  25. Proud.
    Proud. 16 December 2013 13: 37
    +3
    But the source of the video is stationary. A hidden camera. Perhaps it was recently installed. It means that a signal was received (and was taken into account) about the "Chinese" in this unit.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 16 December 2013 14: 45
      +4
      Quote: Be proud.
      But the source of the video is stationary. A hidden camera. Perhaps it was recently installed. It means that a signal was received (and was taken into account) about the "Chinese" in this unit.


      For some reason, no one paid attention to the fact that this is not just one unit.
      The recruits of the People’s Armed Police became victims of bullying.
      ... Soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army tortured newcomers.


      It is as if the spirits of the internal or border troops would be beaten by grandfathers from the army unit. The situation is possible, as well as the reverse, but immediately there are more questions. Where do the officers on duty look at? People’s armed police do not have their own senior staff? Again, as you noticed - a hidden camera, with good quality, by the way. And a scandal in all of China, according to what is written. Again, the Internet is Chinese censorship wool, would not have allowed the video to discredit the army. It smacks of a showdown between the leadership of a certain level of China’s NVP and the PLA. A quality recording has been thrown into the masses, noise has been raised, conclusions must be drawn. And as many have noted in the discussion, organizational conclusions promise to be harsh.
      In general, the bar fight, at the lackeys foreheads crack smile Although it is clear that hazing is in any army and the Chinese is no exception.
  26. Sochi
    Sochi 16 December 2013 14: 01
    +2
    This is ineradicable ... any group will have a leader (strong) and his subordinates (the weak ones will also be divided according to various signs), the orders in this group will depend on the moral qualities of the leader. So it was, it is, and it will be so ... such is our nature. In the army, such should be an officer because of his position, training and social status in the army.
  27. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 16 December 2013 14: 47
    +7
    The presence of hazing in the army depends on the command and "akhvitserov" - each specific unit. If the officers are too lazy to engage in discipline and education of soldiers, then they are engaged in "grandfathers", it is not for nothing that almost all of our officers were called "jackals".
  28. Igor39
    Igor39 16 December 2013 15: 18
    +1
    KMB in Chinese! laughing
  29. Keeper
    Keeper 16 December 2013 15: 29
    -5
    On this topic. Well, it happens. For some reason, they didn’t mention what kind of troops on the video ... They didn’t see what kind of airborne troops we have (sometimes they go with their boots over their heads and what ?!). So what?! This is an ARMY, not a mom with a boobs! And even more so if it’s the airborne forces - so the boys know where they came! That's what the Airborne Forces. My tribe served in the Airborne Forces, says: the car of the boys was driving home from the service. Something was lambered and the conductors called the police, which the airborne troops threw out of the car ... And no one said anything afterwards and did not! And why?! Yes, because the Airborne are afraid and respected. Because these guys are ahead of any difficulties and hardships!
    Difficult to study - easy in battle ....
  30. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 16 December 2013 16: 48
    +3
    A familiar picture, that's just ... in one (or not one?) Soviet-era film the very correct, from my personal point of view, thought that worthy people should serve in the Army, we must create and fight for such an Army. It depends on the commander with whom he goes into battle, and if you prepare the fighters in this way, then in a real combat situation you can get an unpredictable result. .And these on the video to the sport are quite relative, judging by the posture and the number of trampled cigarette butts, a profitable riffraff, the number of cowards they take!
  31. konvalval
    konvalval 16 December 2013 17: 40
    +1
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: Rustam
    Hazing it is ineradicable -


    My father-in-law is a combat officer. Africa -60s. So he served after 45 and told how the old servicemen called them "sons" and shared the latter. The father told the same. And after Khrushchev decided to take convicts into the army, they established their own order there.

    Absolutely right. I confirm as a witness.
  32. demotivator
    demotivator 16 December 2013 18: 01
    +1
    Quote: gladysheff2010
    worthy people should serve in the Army. We must create and fight for such an Army.

    And I think that all citizens of a male country should go to military service. It does not matter in what quality and in what parts, but if you are a man and a citizen of Russia, then you must serve. Did not serve - please, this is your choice, but such should be deprived of part of the civil rights, and perhaps the citizenship of the country in general. And then many males today have generally blurred the concepts of duty, honor and homeland. I live in the North. In the Caucasus, in our places many Greeks compactly live. So many of them have dual citizenship: Russia and Greece. But at the same time, all the young men who were born in Russia will first serve in the Greek army for Greek citizenship for a short time, somewhere around six months, and then they will be given a second passport. This is an example of what to do.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 16 December 2013 20: 20
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      But at the same time, all the young men who were born in Russia will first serve in the Greek army for Greek citizenship for a short time, somewhere around six months, and then they will be given a second passport. This is an example of what to do.

      So ours is so necessary!
      Served - here is your passport and citizenship, and you’re just zero and you have the opportunity as a pioneer!
      1. kare
        kare 16 December 2013 22: 05
        0
        God forbid. Imagine what a menagerie will be in our army. Only a lazy person will not go for citizenship
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 17 December 2013 18: 22
          0
          Quote: kare
          God forbid. Imagine what a menagerie will be in our army. Only a lazy person will not go for citizenship

          But you will definitely be sure that your neighbor who speaks poor Russian at least did something for this country, and did not buy citizenship in the market selling watermelons!
  33. Cher
    Cher 16 December 2013 20: 11
    +3
    I remember my first day in the barracks, Makhalovo was a noble one. Bedfellows were used, but we recruits survived. In short, the next morning, 3 "grandfathers" and not a single newcomer went to the medical unit. The command of the unit was shocked because it was the first time. Maybe because there were 15 of us. and everyone somehow immediately became friends :)
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  35. mvg
    mvg 16 December 2013 21: 57
    +1
    Quote: Freelancer7
    No, this is Hochma, but if you look at the real battle in Afghanistan, it’s not warriors, but just stupid teenagers who went to the war to shoot ...


    They sit behind the wall firing all the time, and are not even afraid that there is a house behind, which wall is easy to get from the grant and fragments to hit all 6-10 people sitting in the alley. Also, the last person at the wall doesn’t even make an effort to keep the street - just do it without thinking, sits at the edge of the wall and does not even look around the corner. All firing, grenades - just ammunition to the wind. Vobschem sit and wait until the pinwheel is suitable. In general, as in the 3-D action, like some kind of Call of Duty 4. And this is not the only video showing how they are fighting - there are more epic ones.

    as in Iraq, 40 depleted uranium blanks are scattered across the desert ... an average of 000 pieces per tank, and this is after the statement that they got from the "first" shot .. not counting that 10% were destroyed by aircraft and simply thrown for money
  36. albai
    albai 16 December 2013 22: 01
    +1
    Yes-ah-ah-ah, the army is the same everywhere, it means a lot of free time soldier had. Although as rightly noted:
    Quote: Ivan.
    hazing 50-60x is no match hazing 80-90x similarly with modern.
    , but again, where there are travel officers, then the manifestation of hazing is purely symbolic and naturally back, where the officers put on service there and a mess. And they lay down for service only when the regiment commander is a bum and a company sloven. And the system of natural selection in the troops made it possible to be a company commander and a command post only to the past Crimea, rarely a careerist, a thug, and a complete de.r.m.o. If a soldier can barely stretch his legs by the end of the day, and falling on a pillow gets up only at the signal “Rota-Rise!”, Then order also means in this unit, with the full and constant presence of an officer. And if the sergeant is appointed sergeant not only for big fists, then the oil will be more oily. And "grandfather", since Suvorov's times there was the concept of "uncle", that is, next to every young soldier there was a 15-20 year old senior soldier, so he taught the young soldier's craft, together with sergeants and sergeants, something like this and it was in the Second World War, until at the end of the war and at the beginning and in the middle of the 50s, due to a lack of recruiting resources, they began to call for former convicts. It was these who started, all the abomination of the extra-statutory relationship, with all the Zonov's bullying and laundry. And again, if the officer corps of the company link is strong, none of this will happen.
  37. alone
    alone 16 December 2013 22: 09
    +2
    Such cases are not uncommon. It all depends on the commander of the unit. Here we had a battalion commander in the battalion. I did not endure assaults. Everything was done according to the charter. Try to touch someone with your finger. was a man. in relation to everyone.
  38. individual
    individual 16 December 2013 22: 38
    +1
    In China, there are 20 million more men than women, and accordingly a large selection among draftees.
    Many want to serve, as military personnel are socially protected, but they are drafted selectively.
    Therefore, it is not clear how this can be?
  39. kelevra
    kelevra 16 December 2013 22: 52
    0
    A bunch of Jackie Chanov has hazing angry Well, if from China such a video got on the net, with all their Dragon bans, then I’m afraid that some kind of degradation of control has begun! In general, this is ordinary sadism!
  40. Barabama
    Barabama 16 December 2013 23: 08
    0
    Quote: Be proud.
    But the source of the video is stationary. A hidden camera. Perhaps it was recently installed. It means that a signal was received (and was taken into account) about the "Chinese" in this unit.


    There is still video on YouTube, and this is just a piece. There, one of the tormentors chooses the angle at which to put the camera so that it is better to see how the youngsters are being tortured. The first video is there from the back filmed.
  41. Troy
    Troy 17 December 2013 05: 07
    0
    Looked, laughed! And are they afraid of this army? Old people don’t know how to beat, slaps, kicks like my 10 year old daughter. They would be in our company to our demobilization, in 3 minutes they would learn Russian.
    1. So_o_tozh
      So_o_tozh 17 December 2013 13: 30
      0
      They deliberately hit the body easily, so that there would be no traces left, only slaps on the faces. The main thing here is the "educational" process, to immediately intimidate below the plinth, so that they would not get overwhelmed and obey.
  42. eagle11
    eagle11 17 December 2013 13: 34
    +2
    The news smacks of idiocy, how did the PLA and the NVM cadets turn out to be together? It's like border guards and paratroopers in the Russian Federation, how can they end up in the same barracks? Volunteers under 49 years old ?! They do not hold fighters over 27 years old in the people's militia, but in the general militia up to 35 years old, there is an excess of male population in the country, it’s stupid to recruit old people.