Military Review

The Caspian Flotilla is preparing to receive two new ships and new cruise missiles

70
State tests on two small missile ships of project 21631, the Grad Sviyazhsk and Uglich, are ending in the Caspian. According to the press service of the Southern Military District, the crews of the ships successfully completed four firing with the Caliber-NK universal missile system (export name Club-N). Therefore, the Caspian flotilla while it remains the only part of our fleet where surface ships carry this complex of cruise missiles (CR). The first surface carrier of the Caliber, the patrol ship Dagestan, was accepted into its composition. Now the Caspian flotilla receives two more carriers of these missiles. And in the near future for the Caspian Sea will be completed two more ships of project 21631 - "Great Ustyug" and "Green Dol."


The Caliber complex was developed by the Novator Design Bureau based on the operational-strategic cruise missile for the Granat KS-122 submarines and its Land Relief variant. Both complexes with subsonic cruise missiles had a range of about 3000 km and were equipped with a nuclear warhead. KR “Granat” were part of the armament of submarines of projects 971, 667AT, 945, 671РТМ. KR complex "Relief" only prepared for entry into service.

However, in the 1987 year, a perpetual agreement on the elimination of medium and short range missiles (INF) was signed between the USSR and the USA. This treaty included not only ballistic, but also ground-based cruise missiles. In pursuance of the agreement, the installation batch of Relief missiles was destroyed under the supervision of specialists from the United States, and no new ones were produced. And in 1989, between Gorbachev and Reagan, a “gentlemanly” (not written) agreement on the composition of weapons of the fleets of the USSR and the USA was reached. According to the agreement, the fleets should not have remained nuclear ammunition and their carriers, except for ballistic missile submarines (SLBMs). And the Granat cruise missiles from submarines were handed over to the storage bases. Nevertheless, the scientific and technical groundwork accumulated during the development of the KS-122 missiles was not in vain.

Back in the beginning of 80-s, in the Novator Design Bureau, work was carried out on the adaptation of a very successful strategic missile for various non-nuclear combat units. "Pomegranate" was launched from a submarine through a torpedo tube of standard caliber 533-mm. He did not require separate mines to launch and was placed on submarines along with the rest of the mine-torpedo ammunition. Therefore, on the basis of the "Grenade" it was decided to create an anti-ship missile "Turquoise" and a cruise missile for strikes against coastal targets with a non-nuclear Caliber missile. Both missiles were included in the new complex under the indices 3М-54 and 3М-14. And the complex itself was called "Caliber". Later, anti-submarine torpedoes 91Р and 91РТ appeared in its composition, due to which it became truly universal in its objectives.

The new complex has also become universal in media. Cruise missiles can be equipped with submarines (Caliber-PL complex, Club-S export designation), surface ships (Caliber-NK complex, Club-N export designation) and aviation (complex "Caliber-A", export designation "Club-A").

Like the “Pomegranate”, the “Caliber” also received its land variants. There is a coastal anti-ship complex “Kalibr-M” (export name “Club-M”) and a complex located in standard sea containers “Kalibr-K” (“Club-K”). Fully resurrecting the “Relief” cruise missiles does not allow the INF Treaty. However, the new Iskander-M operational tactical complex, along with the 9М723 ballistic missiles, also includes the new R-500 cruise missile with a range of less than 500 km. It does not fall under the prohibition of the INF Treaty. And although the Iskander-M uses a mobile launcher, which is similar to the anti-ship Caliber-M, the range for land cruise missiles has to be artificially limited.

Actually, therefore, we have to use ships and submarines to deploy tactical missiles. The Caliber 3М-14 missiles (and their various modifications) are designed to destroy objects on land. They have fully autonomous control. The flight path correction can be carried out either by satellite navigation (GLONASS) data, or by the terrain relief, which is verified with a three-dimensional map embedded in the onboard control system. The flight takes place at extremely low altitudes (with a rounding of the terrain) along a previously laid route. The route itself can be laid along a complex trajectory, with a detour of strong air defense zones. Flight range - over 2500 km. This means that from the Caspian Sea they can hit targets throughout the Transcaucasian republics, Turkey or Afghanistan, in most parts of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Romania.

Thus, even completely not large ships of the 21631 project, which carry 8 missiles of the Caliber complex each, are a very significant part of the defense potential.
Originator:
http://www.odnako.org/
70 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Airman
    Airman 16 December 2013 11: 00
    13
    We are strengthening the Caspian flotilla, and it received the most new ships! What, are we preparing for war in this region? The news is good, but it would be better if the SF or Pacific Fleet build new ships, in my opinion, they are needed there.
    1. Civil
      Civil 16 December 2013 11: 26
      0
      So I did not understand ... what range is that ?!
      1. not good
        not good 16 December 2013 11: 44
        +5
        Well, what is not clear, it is written there: .. the range is artificially limited wassat
        1. little man
          little man 16 December 2013 11: 50
          +8
          The key word is the land range (500km).
          Actually, that’s why we have to use ships and submarines to deploy tactical missiles. there you can shoot for 2500 km
      2. AVV
        AVV 16 December 2013 12: 20
        0
        More than 2500 km in subsonic performance, and most importantly, under the gunpoint of the Makhachkala Republic of Kazakhstan, there may be all of Georgia and almost the majority of the Black Sea, so that American enemy ships with cr Tomahawk will be destroyed, since they have a firing range of only 1500 km !!! And aviation, if it takes off from the territory of the same Georgia, will be hit by the Iskanders, or S-300, from -400 !!! So, that’s good !!!
        1. 10kAzAk01
          10kAzAk01 16 December 2013 13: 27
          16
          ! And aviation, if it takes off from the territory of the same Georgia, will be hit by Iskanders, or S-300, from -400 !!!

          Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be thrashed by Iskander?
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 16 December 2013 14: 23
            +4
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be thrashed by Iskander?

            ETOGES, as I understand it .... right into the lobeshnik, through the flashlight, to the pilot .... well, or to the navigator to get off course))) ... how to pull these diplomas .... .... do not write heresy !!
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 16 December 2013 15: 27
              10
              Quote: gispanec
              .. pitifully minusanul ....

              Evil you, without such blunders on the site it would be boring, and you would not understand to yourself that you are hefty smart and know a lot. Do not be angry, because many are here to chat, talk to share "their" purely personal opinion, and you thought to swear, you need to be kinder. wink smile laughing yes
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 16 December 2013 14: 43
            +4
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be thrashed by Iskander?


            Rocket consumption

            Missile consumption for destroying targets with accuracy of determining the coordinates of the target 50 m

            MLRS launchers - 2 9M79K, or 4 9M79F
            The battery of missiles of the Lance type is 2 9M79K, or 4 9M79F
            Battery self-propelled guns or towed guns - 1 9M79K, or 2 9M79F
            Helicopters on landing sites - 1 9M79K, or 2 9M79F
            Ammunition depots - 1 9M79K, or 3 9M79F
            The defeat of manpower, unarmored vehicles, aircraft parked, etc.
            On an area of ​​40 hectares - 2 9M79K, or 4 9M79F
            On an area of ​​60 hectares - 3 9M79K, or 6 9M79F
            On an area of ​​100 hectares - 4 9M79K, or 8 9M79F
            1. gispanec
              gispanec 16 December 2013 15: 11
              +1
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Quote: 10kAzAk01 Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be beaten with Iskander?

              no questions you are ready to shoot down the "flying" aircraft even MLRS .... Vladyka, sleep it off ... or read carefully ... but still !!! Iskander in f4 to plant ... yes for the accuracy of the hero to give and for stupidity to shoot! ... nonsense ...
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 16 December 2013 21: 05
                0
                Quote: gispanec
                Quote: Sith Lord
                Quote: 10kAzAk01 Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be beaten with Iskander?

                no questions you are ready to shoot down the "flying" aircraft even MLRS .... Vladyka, sleep it off ... or read carefully ... but still !!! Iskander in f4 to plant ... yes for the accuracy of the hero to give and for stupidity to shoot! ... nonsense ...


                Do not get excited. Who said flying aircraft? on alert, the aggressors are covering the airfield and that’s it. How many planes will they have time to lift before the Iskander strike?
                1. gispanec
                  gispanec 17 December 2013 08: 38
                  0
                  Quote: Sith Lord
                  Do not get excited. Who said flying aircraft?

                  So you yourself then read the post that you quoted and answered it .. ??? belay
          3. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 16 December 2013 15: 17
            +7
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be thrashed by Iskander?

            Dima, do not touch the "specialists", Iskander is sacred, - he can do everything "on foot on airplane and flight on foot". yes
            1. avg
              avg 16 December 2013 15: 52
              +3
              Iskander is sacred - he can do anything

              You obviously misunderstood. It is best to beat enemy aircraft, suddenly flying past on Iskander. (He is a stealth) Or, at worst, on Bucephalus.
              To all participants of the tactical meeting "+" good
              1. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 16 December 2013 20: 43
                0
                Quote: avg
                Or, at worst, at Bucephalus.

                Better on Rosenant, it’s easier. laughing
            2. gispanec
              gispanec 16 December 2013 18: 00
              +1
              Quote: cherkas.oe
              Dima, do not touch the "specialists"

              yeah, already touch these spitzaglists ... they got out of the way, but I don’t care .... the main thing I understood ... we’ll be the Iskander to blast the NATO aviation .... and also the mace and governor .... and what .. .with the governor of 10 heads .. well immediately minus 10 raptors .... coolooo .... wow ....
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 16 December 2013 21: 07
                +5
                Quote: gispanec
                Quote: cherkas.oe
                Dima, do not touch the "specialists"

                yeah, already touch these spitzaglists ... they got out of the way, but I don’t care .... the main thing I understood ... we’ll be the Iskander to blast the NATO aviation .... and also the mace and governor .... and what .. .with the governor of 10 heads .. well immediately minus 10 raptors .... coolooo .... wow ....

                Stop trolling, do you? The man wrote in one sentence the S-300 and Iskander, and how about kindergarten, now let’s play it right?
                Iskanders can destroy runways or hangars with aircraft.
                1. gispanec
                  gispanec 17 December 2013 08: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Sith Lord
                  The man wrote in one sentence S-300 and Iskander

                  .. well, following your logic, the Broadsword and Kalash .... probably small arms .... you must be knowledgeable in order to trynd
          4. alone
            alone 16 December 2013 21: 45
            -1
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be thrashed by Iskander?


            in short bursts)) wassat
      3. major071
        major071 16 December 2013 12: 34
        +5
        City of Sviyazhsk:
        weaponry
        Artillery 1x1 100-mm AU A-190 Universal, 2x1 14,5-mm machine gun mount, 3x1 7,62-mm machine gun mount
        Anti-aircraft artillery 2x6 30-mm ZAK Duet (AK 630-M2)
        Missile weapons 1x8 Caliber or 1x8 Onyx
        2х4 launcher 3М47 "Bending" with SAM "Igla" or "Igla-M"
    2. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 16 December 2013 11: 45
      0
      New ships of the ocean zone do not work.
      In general, the situation with the revival of the fleet is interesting. The money is being invested huge, the result is close to zero. It seems that the boats have already been tuned, but their weapons do not work. The corvettes were set up, but they do not go further than the Baltic, due to low reliability and incomplete combat capability. New frigates at the outfitting wall cook. Submarines are new "in trial operation". One hope for Project 11356 and the usual "Warsaw women" for the Black Sea Fleet. Well, also the modernization of the remaining owls. ships of the 1st rank. When everyone gets tired of this boisterous with the revival of the fleet, the stock of owls. ships will end, and the current victims of the exam will come to work as designers, obviously you just have to buy everything you need abroad.
      1. Retx
        Retx 16 December 2013 12: 09
        +3
        Quote: chunga-changa
        Korvetov set up, but they do not go further than the Baltic

        Seriously? winked
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 16 December 2013 12: 38
          -1
          Yes. Do you have other data? Share it.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 16 December 2013 12: 43
          10
          Well, Ireland, Kiel, and French Brest - is it the Baltic? laughing
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 December 2013 13: 02
        +3
        They set up Korvetov, but they do not go further than the Baltic, due to low reliability and incomplete combat readiness. laughing they turned it down ... yes, they only built two of them, the third just ... And what about incapacity? is it possible in more detail? request
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 16 December 2013 13: 34
          0
          3 in service, 2 in completion, 1 in construction. This is clearly not configured, it is, you can not even count. Despite the fact that these ships will become the most massive in the fleet. As for the Kiel Canal, La Masha, Ireland and Brest, look at the map, along the coast, with almost overnight stays at the port. It’s like getting around the Baltic in a circle. As for combat readiness, was Furke finished? Does redoubt work?
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 16 December 2013 23: 13
            -1
            Quote: chunga-changa
            Furke finished? Does redoubt work?


            Harm redoubt earned, rocket brought to mind. And what to Furke? On 20385, it seems like the trimmed Polyment is being put, but what about 20380 is a question.
      3. bif
        bif 17 December 2013 02: 15
        0
        Gigantic money invested, the result is close to zero.
        "Therefore, I am posting this summary table of the construction of surface combat units for the Russian Navy, as of 17.11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX"
        http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/43684/
    3. UVB
      UVB 16 December 2013 12: 30
      +4
      And what do you propose to download Zelenodolsk Shipyard? The plant produces the products for which it is designed. Rejoice need. And for the construction of larger ships, completely different production capacities are needed in another place.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 December 2013 12: 52
      +5
      good! packing the Caspian specifically! good
    5. Altona
      Altona 16 December 2013 19: 08
      +2
      For the Caspian flotilla, of course, it’s nice, but why such a hasty buildup of military power in this particular area? Preparing for the redistribution of the shelf?
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 16 December 2013 20: 43
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        Why such a hasty buildup of military power in this particular area?

        From the Caspian along the inland waterways, everything can be quickly thrown at least to the Black Sea, even to the Baltic, even to the White.
        But the Caspian flotilla does not provoke European partners on diarrhea, as the Iskandera allegedly located at the borders.
  2. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 16 December 2013 11: 04
    +4
    This means that from the Caspian Sea they can hit targets throughout the Transcaucasian republics, Turkey or Afghanistan, in most of the territory of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Romania.

    It’s good that we get Suads !!! maybe they will stick their tongue in the opera! ... only a demonstration is needed ... like for example with the Armavir complex ...
  3. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 16 December 2013 11: 05
    15
    And in 1989 between Gorbachev and Reagan it was achieved "Gentlemanly" (non-written) agreement

    Yeah, there were two "gentlemen of fortune". I can't wait for at least one of them to be tried posthumously, although there are still chances (but there is no will) to condemn him during his lifetime.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 16 December 2013 11: 18
      +9
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      I can’t wait for one of them to be tried.

      Dima has already sentenced him to the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called. Nevertheless, the lawyer knows better. laughing
    2. olegff68
      olegff68 16 December 2013 11: 40
      +9
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      And in 1989 between Gorbachev and Reagan it was achieved "Gentlemanly" (non-written) agreement

      Yeah, there were two "gentlemen of fortune". I can't wait for at least one of them to be tried posthumously, although there are still chances (but there is no will) to condemn him during his lifetime.

      I join !!! - also the rumor has resonated.
      Gorbachev - that same gentleman am
  4. yan
    yan 16 December 2013 11: 06
    +6
    And we cover the southern shores, great. the direction is one of the most controversial ... Iran, the North Caucasus is nearby, and the Transcaucasia is not the most peaceful area, very timely. And the Astrakhan region will become a real "Southern outpost of the Russian state"
    1. pawel57
      pawel57 16 December 2013 19: 56
      -4
      Nonsense. This Caspian can be shot up and down without a fleet. Iran is not an enemy. the rest can be neglected. % column is running.
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 16 December 2013 20: 27
        0
        Quote: pawel57
        Iran is not an enemy

        Have you thought of this thought yourself? ... the Persians are friends to us ..... slow-witted ....
        1. alone
          alone 16 December 2013 21: 48
          0
          laughing Better to have an open enemy than a friend like the Persians ..
  5. NORTH
    NORTH 16 December 2013 11: 07
    +3
    Good news. Under Gorbachev, not everyone was stolen. Cheered up for the day!
  6. NORTH
    NORTH 16 December 2013 11: 15
    +4
    Take a compass and draw a circle with a radius of action ... it turns out very funny))), but if you add beauty to Novorossiysk))
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 16 December 2013 12: 03
      0
      Either this is a new border of the Customs Union, or a "return line" will be assembled from this area to the point of launch and not only - that is joy with beauty.
      Now the custom is to drown carriers with Granites before reaching the launch distance, and these are in the port within a radius.
  7. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 16 December 2013 11: 15
    +2
    All is well, but aren't corvettes on the Baltic armed with Caliber? And new boats.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2013 12: 45
      +2
      Not in the Baltic, only X-35. Submarines are only 636, the first of which has recently been lowered. At the same time, in boats, the Caliber is not the main type of armament, but additional with launch from the TA.

      Here is Severodvinsk, that killer of aircraft carriers-cities with VPU Caliber.
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 16 December 2013 16: 44
      +3
      Today we do not have a single boat armed with a caliber! Severodvinsk will be the first and so far the only one.
      1. bif
        bif 17 December 2013 03: 09
        0
        Quote: Tlauicol
        Today we do not have a single boat armed with a caliber

        If there is, then you and I should not know about this yet.
        "A high-ranking officer of the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia that work on the introduction of the Caliber has already begun on the K-328 Leopard boat (project 971). Since June 2011, the nuclear submarine is undergoing medium repairs in Severodvinsk at Sevmash. In early November, the newest nuclear submarine of the Yasen project - Severodvinsk, which has a new missile as part of its standard armament, successfully passed the Kalibrom firing.

        Caliber cruise missiles exist in a single-stage anti-ship version (3M-54 index) and two-stage for ground targets (3M-14). The two-stage modification was created on the basis of the Soviet KS-122 cruise missile complex C-10 "Grenade". Unlike the Caliber, the Granat missile carries only a nuclear warhead and is subject to limitation under offensive arms reduction treaties (START).

        The Kalibr missiles will be installed primarily on submarines of the Shchuka project of the Northern Fleet from the 24th division. The sailors call this division "beastly", since it includes only submarines named after predators: "Cheetah", "Panther", "Tiger", "Wolf" and others. Subsequently, it is planned to arm the Pike of the Pacific Fleet. "November 2012
        http://army-news.ru/2012/11/vmf-rossii-pristupaet-k-perevooruzheniyu-podlodok/
  8. Bykov.
    Bykov. 16 December 2013 11: 21
    +9
    ... between Gorbachev and Reagan, a "gentlemanly" agreement was reached ...


    Damn that hump and his damned treaties! How much more will we step on the rake, kindly spread out on our way, this "marked" rogue!
  9. dimon-media
    dimon-media 16 December 2013 11: 29
    +7
    Yeah. You can’t worry about the Caspian at all. Flotilla updated. There are no rivals there, but in the event of anything else they can be transported from there to the Black Sea along the Volgodonsky Canal?
    1. little man
      little man 16 December 2013 11: 47
      +3
      Duc, as far as I understand the flotilla, was updated to work along the coast.
      And against subsonic ships on subsonic is not very cool.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2013 12: 51
      +6
      Yes. You can translate in a week.

      There were no opponents before. They simply download river shipyards for updating - for KFL this is 100% update, but for BF / NF / SF - river shipyards can only build landing boats, anti-sabotage boats, tugboats, port support vessels and other diving boats.

      That is, all this goes to CFL, approximately as to other fleets! And rook, and new tugs, and Dugongs, and Chamois, and new rescuers. It’s just for CFL this is actually a complete rearmament, and for others, a drop in the bucket.
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 16 December 2013 19: 59
        0
        They built submarines on the Volga and drove along the canal to the Black Sea at night.
    3. 1c-inform-city
      1c-inform-city 16 December 2013 13: 00
      0
      It is possible, within two days.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 16 December 2013 13: 23
        0
        These are absolutely boats, but something like IAC / MPC should be prepared with disassembling the antennas and assembling them. This is a week.
    4. pawel57
      pawel57 16 December 2013 19: 58
      +1
      You can’t drive in winter
    5. alone
      alone 16 December 2013 21: 51
      -2
      Quote: dimon-media
      Yeah. You can’t worry about the Caspian at all. Flotilla updated. There are no rivals there, but in the event of anything else they can be transported from there to the Black Sea along the Volgodonsky Canal?


      Why update the fleet where there are no rivals? And why then the rest of the fleets in a state where there are real opponents?
      There you have the task. Now sit and guess what all this is about. request
  10. The fat man
    The fat man 16 December 2013 12: 39
    +1
    Quote: Povshnik
    We are strengthening the Caspian flotilla, and it received the most new ships! What, are we preparing for war in this region? The news is good, but it would be better if the SF or Pacific Fleet build new ships, in my opinion, they are needed there.

    do not rush the event
    probably start from small seas and in a few years the Pacific fleet will replenish
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2013 12: 58
      +5
      Well, here in the Baltic already by the spring of 2014 a new 4 corvette will be formed. For the tasks of the Baltic, it is more than enough, together with the ICRs and the IPC / RTOs - which in the future will be replaced by the OVR corvette.

      A pack of Frigates is being built at Amber, albeit with slight delays.

      In general, this year, serious growth (almost 2 times) compared with the previous year will be seen in ships and vessels delivered to the Navy. It’s just basically achieved by loading river shipyards, and not the flagships of shipbuilding.
    2. wax
      wax 16 December 2013 18: 13
      +3
      This region is now the most overheated, and many hotheads can be cooled from the Caspian. In addition, if you cool someone, then all these contracts are not a hindrance, most importantly technical capabilities. And yet - in the Caspian there are no fleets of the most likely troublemakers in the world, which gives additional degrees of freedom.
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 16 December 2013 20: 01
        -4
        Let's upgrade the fleet on Baikal or on Ilmen.
  11. Stiletto
    Stiletto 16 December 2013 15: 45
    +1
    In modern Russia, any "Humpbacked" treaty that is enslaving for it must be revised and amended. And before Gorby follows EBN into the furnace of history, all their "historical heritage" must be burned out with a red-hot iron am
  12. shpuntik
    shpuntik 16 December 2013 16: 37
    +1
    Excellent article +, in terms of information content, everything is on the shelves. That's just, "tagged" podkuzmil. And Shevardnadze. And some more ...
    By the way we energetically arm the Caspian, we can judge the place of the future mess. With the ocean fleet is not so cheerful. This is especially true for Pacific Fleet.
  13. Wiruz
    Wiruz 16 December 2013 17: 52
    0
    One cannot forget about the Caspian. If the Yankees do roll Assad and bring democracy to Syria, then their next goal will be Iran, and we (Russia) do not need it
  14. Leshka
    Leshka 16 December 2013 18: 56
    -1
    Quote: Povshnik
    We are strengthening the Caspian flotilla, and it received the most new ships! What, are we preparing for war in this region? The news is good, but it would be better if the SF or Pacific Fleet build new ships, in my opinion, they are needed there.

    totally agree why the heck are there so many carables
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 16 December 2013 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: Leshka
      The news is good, but it would be better if the SF or Pacific Fleet build new ships, in my opinion, they are needed there.

      look who is building on the Caspian Sea and who is on the north and tof .... the shipyards are all busy ... just someone can quickly quickly someone ... and it’s not reasonable to compare RTOs with a frigate somehow ....
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 December 2013 19: 34
    +2
    The Caspian Sea, the Arctic ..! These are two main and promising regions .. for Russia! The main "battles" will be there .. and we must win them!
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 16 December 2013 20: 31
    0
    I am very happy for the fleet!
    But somehow strange replenishment takes place, we replenish the fleet in the Caspian Sea for what purpose?
    Or do we not know something?
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 16 December 2013 22: 37
      0
      HYDROCARBONS TO PROTECT THEM!
  17. voliador
    voliador 16 December 2013 20: 54
    -1
    In all reference books the "Caliber" range is up to 300 km. Where did 3000 km come from?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2013 22: 23
      +1
      The directories provide data on export missiles, where the limitation is 300km under the contract.

      About 2500 from the admiral, the commander of the CFL, who received ships with this complex.

      http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/voensovet/947115-echo/
      In principle, not one surface ship now has such a long-range firing as our ship. He shoots more than two thousand kilometers on a coastal target. And 350 kilometers on the sea target.

      S. BUNTMAN: And here he is in the summer, right? Received, huh? In the summer of 12?

      S. ALEKMINSKY: In the summer I entered, passed state tests, worked out 2 missile firing at a coastal target, the state tests are included first, the second is included in the “Caucasus 2012” exercise. I boast to you that the target is 50x50 centimeters ... It’s a pity the photograph, that here ... So to speak, if only a little earlier, I would certainly bring it. 50x50 such a target, just a metal sheet. So she hit this target, at a distance of 5 meters. And that’s all ...
    2. gispanec
      gispanec 17 December 2013 08: 43
      -2
      Quote: voliador
      Where did 3000 km come from?

      learn real-world materiel, not literary stuffing ...
  18. kelevra
    kelevra 16 December 2013 21: 26
    0
    The Caspian, a strategic direction, it is reasonable that there is the most modern weapons!
    1. alone
      alone 16 December 2013 21: 52
      -1
      Can you announce the list of enemies in the Caspian?
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 16 December 2013 23: 21
        -1
        Quote: lonely
        Can you announce the list of enemies in the Caspian?


        Yes, what enemies are there - some friends! Only with such bare ass friends is it somehow not good to sit. And they will forget that we are friends, and then you will dispute the shelf in international courts. Like Ukraine and Romania wassat
      2. Ramzes
        Ramzes 16 December 2013 23: 23
        +1
        From the Caspian, you can get, for example, to Turkey, Saudi Arabia (not the most friendly countries to us). And, if necessary, it is easy to overtake ships to the Black Sea, thus, the Caspian flotilla becomes a kind of reserve for the Black Sea Fleet.
  19. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 17 December 2013 07: 57
    -1
    Some wonder why in the Caspian there are small ships with missiles with a range right up to 2500 km? Imagine how this ship fires a salvo from the southern part of the Caspian somewhere off the coast of Iran. Suppose there is an agreement with the Persians that these missiles should not be counteracted when flying over their territory. Diego Garcia will not reach, but the Persian Gulf and part of the Arabian shot through. And also within reach of a cherished US cancer tumor in the Middle East. I do not mean Iran or Iraq, but to the west. fellow
  20. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 17 December 2013 09: 05
    +1
    Quote: gispanec
    Quote: Sith Lord
    Quote: 10kAzAk01 Tell us in more detail how the "flying" aviation will be beaten with Iskander?

    no questions you are ready to shoot down the "flying" aircraft even MLRS .... Vladyka, sleep it off ... or read carefully ... but still !!! Iskander in f4 to plant ... yes for the accuracy of the hero to give and for stupidity to shoot! ... nonsense ...

    Well, let's say this, not stupidity, but an incorrect formulation! Of course, it will not work to shoot down aircraft in the air with Iskander, but let’s say so that it doesn’t take off - why not), I don’t think that the formulator deserved so much ridicule because of 1 inaccuracy.
  21. HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 17 December 2013 10: 00
    -1
    give us a couple of missile ships to the Ust-Ilim reservoir, otherwise the Chinese will attack :)
  22. Vincente
    Vincente 17 December 2013 10: 46
    -1
    Enlighten, please, the article says that the range of "caliber" missiles is 2500 km. And in Wikipedia "Caliber (cruise missiles)" in the tactical and technical characteristics of 5 missiles (3M-54E, 3M-54E1,3, 14M-91E, 1RE91, 2RTE40) range of only 300-XNUMX km?
  23. darksoul
    darksoul 17 December 2013 22: 51
    0
    this is good news, I’m very happy for the Caspian, but when will we pay attention to tofu, because there is a situation if, in short, compared to other players in the region,