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And you could understand her?

And you could understand her?
"You can't understand Russia with your mind, / you can’t measure it with Arshin: / It’s special to become - / You can only believe in Russia."

145 years ago this poem was published by Fyodor Tyutchev, a poet and, by the way, a political thinker. These lines have become, perhaps, the most quoted in Russian poetry from those where the name of our country is mentioned. And of course, “You can't understand Russia with your mind” (Tyutchev’s handwritten version has a dash between the first words), along with Gorchakov’s “Russia concentrates” - the two most popular maxims about Russia. In any case, in our timeless, meaningful time

What went to the people is usually considered vulgarity. "Mind does not understand Russia" went. But vulgarity was gone. But many of their famous vulgarity on the famous quote hone. I would even say this: political vulgarity focuses on hearing or repeating these four lines. And pretentious, which understands little in Russia and even less able to work in it and with it, vulgarity, and politically just the opposite - vulgarity is mocking (on the current novojaz - stebnaya), not loving and even hating Russia, not wanting to understand it, calling its homeland " Rashkoy.

Those who consider and call themselves intellectuals or, in the old way, intellectuals, have a special vulgarity. For example, they like to quote Pushkin: “The devil guessed me to be born in Russia with a soul and talent”. Not being Pushkins, but trying on Pushkin's despair towards himself.

Such intellectuals remind ignoramuses from school or university, who, with difficulty (and with mistakes) having written five lines, try to show off their erudition and hide behind Chekhov: "Brevity is the sister of talent." In this case, I ask the schoolchildren and students a simple question: “How many volumes are in the complete collection of Chekhov’s works?” The erudition instantly fades - but the vulgarity remains.

Yes, Fedor Ivanovich Tyutchev asked with his own transparent, like the US elections, lines of intellectual puzzling for a century and a half! However, in my opinion, Tyutchev's intellectually poetic aphorism is clear and invulnerable. The poet actually compares Russia with God, whom it is impossible for man to understand with his mind or measure with earthly arshin. Belief in God is exhaustive for the believer "knowledge" about God.

Possible and secular transcript: Russia - the universe, the universe. She is everything, and she has everything. Therefore, it is impossible to understand Russia with the mind of an individual, and you can never get absolute knowledge about it - it will always remain something unknown and incomprehensible. But if you want to evaluate and understand (within your limits) Russia, you need to believe in it, as you believe, without being a scientist, that an immense Cosmos extends beyond Earth.

Finally, in my opinion, there is a third - lyrical, or, if you like, erotic decoding of the famous quatrain. If you love (may “civilized” Europeans forgive me!) A woman, then you do not strive to understand her with your mind, much less measure it with a common yardstick. Try another one - not only will you lose love, but you will also get it in your face. You just love, and therefore not only do not notice the flaws and flaws - you and they seem original charms. Love And that's it.

Well, if you do not love and do not believe, you, of course, cannot understand and appreciate neither God, nor woman, nor Russia. Remain indifferent succeed. Hating is easy. What we often see in those who are not Russian (this is understandable - they have a different love or faith in another). But often, alas, even those who were born in Russia and the Russians (at worst, Russian) call themselves.

Since publicly admitting their dislike for Russia or disbelief in it, most of them cannot be solved, and according to the level of education and lack of physical labor skills, these people are formally intellectuals, that is, people with intelligence, they composed a saving philosophy for themselves: I, clever, do not understand her, then she, this Russia, is nonsense, nonsense, "a tear in humanity."

But, first, who now has no higher education and cannot be labeled an intellectual label? Secondly, who proved that you are really smart? Rector signing your diploma? Thirdly, as Tyutchev prudently preempted, to understand Russia we need not a “common arshin” (call it at least comparativistics) and not just a “mind”, but a genius. Like, for example, Pushkin. Which, even though his “devil guessed”, either didn’t renounce his love for Russia, his faith in it, or the ability to understand it.

Personally, I don’t like a lot in Russia’s existence - I can make a whole list. But even more in Russia that delights me. And also: I consider that I understand Russia with the mind (at least, in its main constants and peculiarities). That does not exclude my love for Russia and even often hesitant, but faith in it.

But in general, in Tyutchev's immortal quatrain, instead of Russia, insert the pronoun “me”: “I can’t understand with my mind, cannot be measured with a common yardstick ...” And so on. It will not be so smooth, but you will see how many slanderers of Russia immediately and willingly subscribe to these words. Selfishness because of understanding.

Paraphrasing well-known, but otherwise spoken words, I will end with this: Russia has understood so many and for so long that now she can choose, whose understanding to open, and whose to ignore ...
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  1. Belogor
    Belogor 16 December 2013 08: 15
    Maybe Russia does not need to be understood, it will be enough for it to be believed in and not to be betrayed in difficult times.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 16 December 2013 10: 00
      Pardon me, I’ll give you one fact, not on the topic — in the United States, no matter how bad (or good) a person lives, he believes that he lives in the best country, and he does not think to criticize the surveillance of the population, for example, to say, that there is no "freedom" because he blindly believes that he lives in "the best country in the world", and all the others - in Austria, Romania, Angola, Russia - do not live, but suffer, they have no "freedom" ...
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 16 December 2013 15: 41
      Quote: Belogor
      Maybe Russia does not need to be understood, it will be enough for it to be believed in and not to be betrayed in difficult times.

      I would say that believing is closer to religions, that is, where there is no clear answer. Mother, Motherland is not chosen (if you do not go into details with the transmigration of souls, rebirth), from birth we DRUG them in and by the time they come of age they are part of our nature and the fact that we love them is just as natural as breathing and that we protect them even at the cost of his life he speaks of our priorities (that is, what they are trying to break by humiliating our Motherland, instilling in us selfishness and "consumerism" ...). From this point of view, it is understandable why a standard "NATO member" cannot understand us with his mind, after all, his substitutions are pursuing his whole life, which begins with gender technologies, tolerance to sexual deviations - a lot of nasty things are put into him by the time he comes of age, so the feeling of love does not arise in him and protect he will only have his ass.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 December 2013 23: 16
      And it seems to me (as a zoologist) that Russia resembles a mother who is ready to respond to any pain, any hope, any cry for help ... And if there are cuckoos that kill her children, then God will judge them ...
  2. Valery Neonov
    16 December 2013 08: 15
    What about RUSSIA can we say ordinary residents of her. The author has everything:
    She is everything, and she has everything.-at least for me.

    In Russia, in the soul of the people, there is some endless search, the search for the invisible city of Kitezh, the invisible house. Before the Russian soul, distances open, and there is no defined horizon in front of her spiritual eyes. The Russian soul burns down in a fiery search for truth, absolute, divine truth and salvation for the whole world and universal resurrection for a new life. She always laments the sorrow and suffering of the people and the whole world, and her torment does not know how to quench. This soul is absorbed in solving finite, damned questions about the meaning of life.

    N. Berdyaev
    1. domokl
      domokl 16 December 2013 10: 40
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is everything, and she has everything. At least for me.

      Well, here I would argue with you ... Well, pineapples and other bananas do not grow ... Again, there are no atolls with beaches ... Yes, there are a lot of things we don’t have.
      But the question is, Do we need it?
      for me, Russia resembles a Siberian hunter-hunter. A bear drives down alone. However, he comes to the village and gets chuckles from nerds, he’s lazy. He’s good-natured, but only until he’s seriously hurt ... and then, like when Evdokimov-What I’ll sort them or something, I’m after the bath, I’ve cleaned everything ... I drove everyone into the river, I’ll go to work tomorrow ...
      1. Valery Neonov
        16 December 2013 11: 30
        We have a soul!and you are for bananas ... Do you love her, specification .... let him be lazy and good-natured, BUT EVERYTHING IS AFRAID, THERE WILL BE ALWAYS RUSSIA AND HATE.A RUSSIA WILL WIN. hi
        1. domokl
          domokl 16 December 2013 12: 45
          Quote: Valery Neonov
          We have a soul! And you are for bananas ... Do you like her, concretization ..

          laughing The soul is, according to believers, a component of all people ... True multi-colored, but everyone ...
          I’m sitting and thinking, Panfilov’s, when did the tanks stop, what would they explain to it? Having a soul? Patriotism? Love for comrade Stalin? Or is Moscow behind us?
          And it seems to me that my explanation is the most correct ... They brought the men.
          -How many tanks are there?
          -more than 30 ...
          And they decided that they could kill us? But to hell with them ... garden. You're lying, you won’t pass ...
          And they didn’t go through. And the rest, to a greater extent, was invented by political workers who allegedly fought alongside other writers lolRussian horniness (in the good sense of the word) against German pedantry ...
          And the Russian warriors near Constantinople were the first to demonstrate such behavior. The famous Slavic dance of death before the battle is still hushed up by Western historians. But it was and is ... Only the form has changed ... Sailors put on their peak caps, paratroopers, on the contrary, like the ancient strip to vests, and many of these descendants of the very dance of death ...
          1. Valery Neonov
            16 December 2013 13: 24
            Well, S.U.K.A. You, They saved their homeland, tanks stopped than to explain it-They stopped those tanks, they stopped for 50 years, so as not to go to RUSSIA, so that there were no gandons in the bureaucracy, (I don’t own writing): You marvel at the jewels of our language: whatever the sound, it’s a gift: everything is grainy, large, like the pearls themselves, and, right, a different name is even more precious than the thing itself. AHA.
            Nikolay Gogol
  3. A.YARY
    A.YARY 16 December 2013 08: 15
    1. makarov
      makarov 16 December 2013 08: 18
      SW Andrew. You got ahead of me, and anyway, I will correct it as it was written in the book by the author:
      It’s time for Iben’s mother to understand Russia with her mind.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 16 December 2013 08: 38
        good I would, in a delicate and intelligent manner characteristic of me, turn to someone to whom Tyutchev’s words hardly reach.

        "You may not understand with your mind
        And he is not obliged to "measure" it.
        And you may not believe Russian
        Become a HUMAN only - fuck .... "
        1. Nikitin
          Nikitin 16 December 2013 11: 13
          Or so:
          Mind - Russia does not understand,
          Yard common not to measure
          It cannot be conquered
          It’s possible to make one happy ...
          1. Genur
            Genur 16 December 2013 17: 15
            For what "for that"?
            Union or pronoun?
    2. alone
      alone 16 December 2013 20: 18
      Yes, Andrey doesn’t succeed, he tried to understand, it still didn’t work. I can even explain why it doesn’t work so that they would not accuse me of being against Russia.

      1) I don’t understand how you can conduct a successful foreign policy while completely running the internal one. Any state is recognized as strong when it has peace and prosperity inside.
      2) I do not understand how it is possible to carry out reforms in the army, cutting hundreds of thousands of specialists and officers, breaking down and destroying military equipment, equipment, towns, destroying military education. Can you forum users explain this to me?
      3) I don’t understand why after carrying out privatization and handing over private property, the state budget was replenished by only 14 billion dollars, although in reality it all cost 1000 more? and even more I do not understand why the person who carried out this privatization was awarded the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 4th degree?

      4) I do not understand Russia when a person is accused of negligence for a major embezzlement of state property, as if he had not added salt to the soup.

      I can give dozens of such examples. But I think this is enough for now. Well, tell me how, after all this, Umu will not burst like a boiler without water?
      1. Victor-M
        Victor-M 16 December 2013 21: 25
        Quote: lonely
        I can give dozens of such examples. But I think this is enough for now. Well, tell me how, after all this, Umu will not burst like a boiler without water?

        Well, we are not evil and not vindictive, we need an army for defense, so it sings more often than fights, we are ready to give everything to our neighbors, at the same time be left with nothing, and then our souls are much more pleasant than what we received. "evil".
        1. alone
          alone 16 December 2013 21: 36
          Well Victor, maybe it’s so! But to be honest, I still don’t understand crying
  4. jjj
    jjj 16 December 2013 08: 20
    Pushkin also said: "We all learned a little something and somehow." And another classic, Ostrovsky, used to say: "There is enough simplicity for every wise man." And our contemporary, Zadornov, issued: "To every trick of the West, Russia will respond with unpredictable" stupidity "and will win again."
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 16 December 2013 08: 27
      It said it seems Bismarck
      they (Russia) will respond to any of your sophisticated tricks with unpredictable stupidity

      1. Ptah
        Ptah 16 December 2013 08: 50
        I will allow myself some clarification. hi
        "Never fight the Russians. They will answer your every military trick with irreparable stupidity!"
        / Otto von Bismarck /

        "The Russian people do not have their own" plan ", because for centuries, they have been doing nothing but trying with all their might to destroy other people's" plans "regarding their own life and destiny!"
        / Peter Arkadyevich Stolypin /
      2. ele1285
        ele1285 16 December 2013 12: 31
        I like it better when Bismarck hired a student in order to understand the idioms of the Russian language.
        B. - what is this berry?
        S.-black currant.
        B.-why is it red?
        S.-because it’s still green.

        How can we and our Motherland be understood? We ourselves are still like children.
  5. Hleb
    Hleb 16 December 2013 08: 21
    But in general, in Tyutchev's immortal quatrain, instead of Russia, insert the pronoun “me”: “I can’t understand with my mind, cannot be measured with a common yardstick ...” And so on. It will not be so smooth, but you will see how many slanderers of Russia immediately and willingly subscribe to these words. Selfishness because of understanding.
    excellent! the same thing happens with other quotes. for example, quoted by Bismarck:"But Russians can be instilled with false values, and then they will defeat themselves!"-Moreover, they can’t provide evidence that he really said this, they also admire him. Like what a smart man this chancellor was ...
    it’s just how much you need not to respect yourself in order to agree that our values ​​are not so true and true that they can be taken and replaced. They say that you can simply drag everything in. Anyway, we are weak, unbelieving in our way, traditions .... and Bismarck yes! smart and says everything is right! let's quote this nonsense and believe in it.
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 16 December 2013 08: 33
    from the Don.
    I am proud and admired by my country, its people, its history. And whoever disagrees is either an enemy, or narrow-minded, near-sighted: man :!
    1. Kolovrat77
      Kolovrat77 16 December 2013 09: 39
      with Kapotnya
      I will subscribe to every word, but I just have a question, but what about people who love Russia, but hate the capital, the source of the new (Rus 2.0) Russian statehood and spirituality? Maybe this is also the mystery of the Russians, or is it implanted on purpose?
      1. avg
        avg 16 December 2013 11: 14
        Quote: Kolovrat77
        with Kapotnya
        I will subscribe to every word, but I just have a question, but what about people who love Russia but hate the capital ... or is it implanted on purpose?
        Of course, this is part of the propaganda aimed at the destruction of Russia. But we will remind them.
  7. ReifA
    ReifA 16 December 2013 08: 37
    To quote is not to understand. A monkey, too, can copy a person without being a person. Therefore, I smile internally, hearing quotes out of place, or from "inappropriate" people.
    I agree with the Belogor post - you need to believe in Russia.
  8. avant-garde
    avant-garde 16 December 2013 08: 38
    To understand Russia, you need to be Russian, I’m here if I ask you where you answer right now, I’ll come to understand that a person will come soon laughingbut some sort of bourgeois will fall into a stupor and will think for a long time where the place is right now I’ll come laughing
  9. Stiletto
    Stiletto 16 December 2013 09: 12
    Quote: avant-garde
    In order to understand Russia, you need to be Russian, if I ask you where you answer right now, I’ll understand that a person will come soon, but some kind of bourgeois will fall into a stupor and think for a long time where is the place right now I’ll come

    Well, yes, I don’t know, no, probably - translate this answer into English, understand? laughing
  10. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 December 2013 09: 20
    Why, why, but to interpret our anti-illegacy of the master, always looking at the West, and in Dostoevsky's words, is only looking for "who would clean his boots", and interpreting the great Russian writers for the sake of the West is probably considered aerobatics. liberoids interpreted this great Russian writer?

    Farewell, unwashed Russia,
    The country of slaves, the land of lords,
    And you, blue uniforms,
    And you, a devoted people to them.

    Perhaps, behind the wall of the Caucasus
    I will hide from your pasha,
    From their all-seeing eye,
    From their hearing ears.

    It would seem that this was right on the liberal’s banner, or just like the party’s anthem, but what did Lermontov want to say now that only God knows that he was a Russian hater? I doubt it. The truth is, it was probably from the point of view of the liberoid.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 16 December 2013 15: 53
      There is a pretty serious opinion that Lermontov did not write this. Lermontov was the first known commander of a spetsnaz unit. According to the specifics of the equestrian unit of that time, of course, but therefore no less trained, skillful and formidable. He fought extremely successfully, bravely and at the same time cleverly. By the way, with his death "in a duel" everything is very, very not clean ...
      In general, under Lermontov’s authorship under these lines, I personally believe little.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 16 December 2013 16: 30
        Quote: Mikhail3
        In general, under Lermontov’s authorship under these lines, I personally believe little.

        And you’re doing it right, I advise everyone to read - Dmitry Sergeyevich Merezhkovsky - M. Yu. Lermontov. The poet of superhumanity. The book is small but very interesting. Lermontov has always been my favorite poet.
  11. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 16 December 2013 09: 26
    Our problem is that people counting we have become very smart, but people who believe in the country are clearly not enough.
  12. sawmill
    sawmill 16 December 2013 09: 38
    Passed from generation to generation, from the old grandfathers to contemporaries, a reverent, sacred attitude to their homeland.
    To which the dirt of everyday life hardly adheres. It is always in the past, always in the future. And very rarely, in the most formidable moments in the present, remember the great words, with blood on the walls of the Brest Fortress "I die but do not give up, goodbye Motherland"

    Why and where is it from?
    It may be because, without the Motherland, we are no one, but in Russia or with Russia - We are the great Russian people.
  13. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 16 December 2013 10: 08
    The article mentions the modern intelligentsia - aren't those who are called hipsters? Duc from those what kind of demand, for them to indiscriminately blame the Motherland for being cool and screwing quotes out of place for them is not a moviton, the main thing is to blur something smart in order to pass for an intellectual. They don’t remember Ivan’s kinship ...
  14. Fox
    Fox 16 December 2013 10: 12
    only Russian can scold Russia! ... the rest for this is on the board!
  15. moremansf
    moremansf 16 December 2013 10: 34
    Frequently carried out newfangled pro-Western educational reforms lead to complete degradation of the personality, the eradication of patriotism and love for the Motherland ... maybe I express my thoughts very harshly, but modern programs are far from the origins of our country, there are almost no classics, they do not write essays ... yes and the literacy of speech is rather extensive ... The Russian language is being replaced by Western slang, in pursuit of steepness. Not a grocery store, but a supermarket, not a clothing store, but a boutique, etc. Behind all this seemingly harmless "verbiage" can be traced a clear expansion of Western culture, not in its best form. I do not beg for the West's merits in this area, there is Goethe, Shakespeare, Byron, etc., but we are first of all Russians and our native culture should be closer to us ... Let's love Russia - this is our Motherland! !!
  16. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 16 December 2013 10: 46
    About the modern intelligentsia, I can say that Stalin was right when he called it lousy. They remind me of Vasisualiy Lokhankin from Ilf and Petrov. A lot of words and few deeds. And in general, in my opinion, there is a layer of intelligentsia only in our country. Nowhere in the world are there so many bawlers who boast of their "intelligentsia" and who hate and despise their country and the people they call cattle.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 16 December 2013 21: 59
      laughing -There is an anecdote on the topic: A bespectacled man is riding on a bus with taxing hard workers. The hard workers shout obscenities - the bespectacled man makes them a remark. The hard workers are upset: "What are you, you bastard, intellectual?" The bespectacled man is frightened: "No, no, it would be the same as everyone else!"
  17. riding
    riding 16 December 2013 10: 48
    To call Tyutchev, a representative of "pure art", a political poet is bold. The poem is more of a philosophical trend. He has another no less famous:
    From the life that was raging here
    From the blood that flowed here
    What survived, what came to us?
    Two or three mounds visible above ...

    Yes, two or three oaks grew on them,
    Spread and wide and bold.
    They show off, make noise, and they don’t care,
    Whose dust, whose memory they dig their roots.

    Nature to know does not know about the past,
    Our ghost years are alien to her,
    And before her, we dimly realize
    Myself - only a dream of nature.

    Alternately all of their children,
    Completing your feat is useless,
    She greets her equally
    An all-consuming and peaceful abyss.
  18. DmitriVoronez
    DmitriVoronez 16 December 2013 10: 53
    Russia will be understood only by the person who knows its history well, was born in it, lives in it, and was brought up by the parents of the "USSR"!
  19. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 December 2013 10: 56
    Unfortunately, vulgarity flooded the Russian media, television, radio. The rule of good manners is to swear and scoff at the Comedy Club... And at the back sits "golden" youth. that is, the best and cackles from the word "f .... pa". There is nowhere to go. Young people are left to their own devices. So they live, an orphan with living parents.
  20. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 16 December 2013 12: 24
    strange articles went to VO. some kind of dregs
    1. Genur
      Genur 16 December 2013 17: 30
      If you don’t feel, then there’s not enough mind!
  21. Lukich
    Lukich 16 December 2013 12: 56
    Mind - Russia does not understand

    ... something I did not understand ??? ...
  22. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 16 December 2013 13: 16
    Patriotism and love for the motherland are feelings of an emotionally healthy person. In the West, emotional cripples are being raised now. Oddly enough, emotions partly bring up through consciousness and its achievements (white man’s cross). We also have these cripples.
    Quote: koni
    He has another no less famous:

    Probably all of us are visited by thoughts like: "Vanity of vanities ... Everything is vanity." what
  23. vlasov70
    vlasov70 16 December 2013 13: 38
    It's time - mother is vigorous
    Intellect to understand Russia!
  24. Stinger
    Stinger 16 December 2013 14: 02

    Yes, asked Fedor Ivanovich Tyutchev with his transparent, like the US election Lines of intellectual puzzle for a century and a half!

    I liked the phrase very much. Figuratively. It is akin to a remark about the consequences of the Russian revolution: These are Marx and Engels who have done business! One thing is clear that everyone understands in their own way. Saltykov-Shchedrin's words: Many are inclined to confuse the two concepts: "Fatherland" and "Your Excellency" are relevant now. There are many quotes, but Russia is one. Therefore, do what you must, and be what will be.
  25. serge
    serge 16 December 2013 16: 51
    In this poem Tyutchev uses the expression “the mind cannot understand Russia” rather in the sense of “not to embrace with the mind”, which is what the second line says “cannot be measured by a common yardstick,” and the fourth “can only be believed”. Which is not surprising. Russia is more than a country. This is a universe, a messianic civilization that has absorbed the features of the North and South, West and East, and has set itself the goal of establishing universal justice in the world. For other earthly civilizations that set themselves more "earthly" goals, Russia's mission is fundamentally incomprehensible and fundamentally unknowable (as the universe is fundamentally unknowable), since Russia's goals are "in heaven" and lie outside the achievement of earthly goods. That is why Russia is the foot of the throne of the Lord. You can only believe in Russia.

    Oh, the old world! Until you perish,
    While you languish with sweet flour,
    Stop, wise as Oedipus,
    Before the Sphinx with an ancient mystery!

    Russia - Sphinx. Rejoicing and mourning
    And bleeding black blood,
    She looks, looks, looks at you,
    And with hatred, and with love !. .

    Yes, to love as much as our blood loves,
    None of you have loved for a long time!
    Forgot you, that in the world there is love,
    Which burns and kills!

    We love everything - and the heat of cold numbers,
    And the gift of divine visions,
    Everything is clear to us - and a sharp Gallic meaning,
    And the gloomy Germanic genius ....
    For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
    On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
    The last time for a bright fraternal feast
    Cries the barbaric lyre!

    (Alexander Blok)
  26. homosum20
    homosum20 16 December 2013 17: 55
    Here is another author:
    "I immediately blurred the map of everyday life,
    splashing paint from a glass;
    I showed on a jelly dish
    oblique cheekbones of the ocean.
    On scales of tin fish
    I read the calls of new lips.
    And you
    we could
    on the downspout flute? "
    Try to understand and convey in your own words.
    But splendor is present.
  27. Cherdak
    Cherdak 16 December 2013 18: 30
    It's time to put a test
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 16 December 2013 20: 26