Is the end soon?

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Hello, dear users of the site "IN"!

Please forgive in advance for this article, for it is painful. The essence of this. For the second year in a row, I have been a user of Military Survey. I read articles, sometimes I comment. I analyze the events in the world, forming my opinion on almost everything. But this very second year in my mind is sitting the same thought. Is the end soon?

What is going on with the world? Where are we going?

Take the same Europe. Once Christian, albeit with blemishes. And now what? Stronghold abomination. As if the biblical Sodom and Gomorrah were reborn. What's next?

Constant wars. Well, mankind and war are inseparable. I understood this in my 19 years ago. But the distortion of religion for terrorism, I do not understand.

And what's going on in our heads? The dominance of "American culture", which in the majority - is **** mo. But, thank God, I was brought up so that now more or less resistant to it. But most of my peers are typical Americans. They do not care what will happen to the country. They would try LSD and the iPhone would be new. And what is happening in the world, they do not care. And what will happen tomorrow, they also do not care. Explain to me, the generation of the USSR, when people became so indifferent? Explain ... For, according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. It is light. They were not afraid. Were not afraid of tomorrow. Not afraid of the enemy. They knew that everything would be fine. And I personally have no such confidence in the future.

And explain to me, foolish and foolish, when it became fashionable for the army to "mow" ??? Why is it now that the servant is told not “well done”, but “fool”? When did we all allow it? And most importantly - why ???

I do not know about you, but with me, looking at everything that happens in the world, one thing arises in my head - soon, soon the end. What it will be - whether the second coming of Christ or atomic hell - I do not know. Maybe I'm wrong. More precisely, not so - I sincerely want to be wrong in this opinion. But I'm really scared of a possible Tomorrow.

Forgive once again for the possible inconsistency in the statements. This is the cry of the soul.
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  1. +124
    16 December 2013 08: 30
    Do not drift, break through!
    1. A.YARY
      +173
      16 December 2013 08: 37
      Get involved!
      Work, sports, education, military science-DO!
      In any case, it will do much more to the benefit than "self and fiddling"!
      Honor your parents, protect the weak, fear your conscience, and the USSR will return.
      1. +70
        16 December 2013 09: 21
        But most of my peers are typical Americans. They do not care what will happen to the country. They would try LSD and the iPhone would be new. And what is happening in the world does not bother them. And what will happen tomorrow, they also do not care.

        I'm not much older than you! But I completely share your anxiety! And as he said A.YARY:
        Quote: A.YARY
        Get involved!
        Work, sports, education, military science-DO!
        In any case, it will do much more to the benefit than "self and fiddling"!
        Honor your parents, protect the weak, fear your conscience, and the USSR will return.


        And all will be well!
        1. +18
          16 December 2013 09: 38
          Quote: LaGlobal
          And all will be well!


          It’s already good, just not all the news is read


          The investigation of the criminal case against the former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov was completed. He is charged with negligence, due to which the recreation center of a relative of Mr. Serdyukov was illegally landscaped at the army’s expense. There was no re-qualification of the earlier accusation to a more serious one, which was hinted by representatives of the TFR... Thus, the accused has a real chance to avoid further criminal prosecution under the amnesty, unless, of course, his girlfriend and former subordinate of Yevgeny Vasilyev continues to testify against him in the Oboronservis case.
          1. +8
            16 December 2013 09: 58
            Quote: Vadivak So already good, just not all the news read
            [/ quote


            And what is this here for?
          2. wanderer_032
            +25
            16 December 2013 11: 09
            God is not Myakishka and he has his own book. (Russian people's saying).
            Everything will respond to them. Sooner or later.
            1. +2
              16 December 2013 20: 15
              Quote: wanderer_032
              God is not Myakishka and he has his own book. (Russian people's saying).
              Everything will respond to them. Sooner or later.

              That's exactly Alexander ... good
          3. +12
            16 December 2013 12: 13
            Vadivak (1) Today, 09:38 ↑ New
            Quote: LaGlobal
            And all will be well!

            It’s already good, just not all the news is read


            the investigation of the criminal case opened against the former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov has been completed. He is charged with negligence, due to which, at the expense of the army, the recreation center of Mr. Serdyukov's relative was illegally arranged. There was no re-qualification of the previously presented charge for a more serious one, which was hinted at by representatives of the TFR. Thus, the accused has a real chance to avoid further criminal prosecution under the amnesty, unless, of course, his girlfriend and former subordinate of Yevgeny Vasilyev continues to testify against him in the Oboronservis case.


            Drugan "guarantor".
            1. +1
              16 December 2013 21: 11
              Quote: Yarik
              the investigation of the criminal case opened against the former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov has been completed. He is charged with negligence, due to which, at the expense of the army, the recreation center of Mr. Serdyukov's relative was illegally arranged. There was no re-qualification of the previously presented charge for a more serious one, which was hinted at by representatives of the TFR. Thus, the accused has a real chance to avoid further criminal prosecution under the amnesty, unless, of course, his girlfriend and former subordinate of Yevgeny Vasilyev continues to testify against him in the Oboronservis case.


              And what do you think the stool will be allowed through the sawmill?
              1. 0
                22 December 2013 00: 08
                not necessarily through the sawmill. A stool might have a heart attack. Or an attack of conscience and he would have shot himself. Lots of options.
        2. +95
          16 December 2013 10: 01
          EEEEEEEh, youth ... In the year 81, before the first mission to the DRA (then), the front-line men also told me that the youth is now different, our gut is thin and so on.
          Did you drink good beer? Not in the park from a bottle with a one-year shelf life, but beer ... So, when it is poured into a mug, a big cap of foam appears ... The beer is down there, and it’s foam in sight. Beautiful, but foam .
          So it is now. You see the foam and think that this is exactly beer ... But in fact, beer is you. And your doubts are not only yours, but many young ones.
          And the foam, believe the beer lover, will soon settle ... It will remain just a sediment on the walls of the mug ...
          1. +26
            16 December 2013 10: 16
            As for the awkward youth: the old men hissed at us too, when we walked in jeans and a cassette player on our shoulders along the street and listened to rock. The time came to serve and the guys went without any problems (but not all, they were cunning even then - only a few), and they visited the river, did not shame. I didn’t succeed; after training, I wrote a report - I severed the political officer. But if only for the army, then the zone for sure.
            And now the guys serve and perform their feat.
            1. +72
              16 December 2013 10: 49
              Quote: Irkutsk
              And now the guys serve and perform their feat.

              Exactly so. I already wrote about this, but I just can’t forget. August 08 ... Sergeant, tank commander in Abkhazia gives an interview.
              -What task did you have?
              -We had to hold the bridge over the river and not let Georgian troops into the territory of the republic ...
              -And how many of you are here?
              - Tank platoon and bridge guard platoon ...
              "But how then would they be kept? It's impossible ..."
              -I take my tank to the bridge and block the passage, and the guys do not allow the river to cross the bottom ...
              So just a young guy, without noticing it, showed what kind of youth we have and what kind of himself he is. He knew that he could reach the bridge, but he wouldn’t return 100% from there ... Normal men grew up with us. And those who glamor and is going to geyparadit just that beer foam ...
              1. +17
                16 December 2013 12: 58
                on account of foam:
                Despite the fact that young people forget their roots, spit on everything that was created by our fathers and grandfathers, I personally have doubts. It feels like evil can triumph. It is only in the films that the hero always thinks up how to break all alone.
                but look: when on ORT they talk about victory in the fact that we did not let Syria break? this is of course a local victory, but what countries are already destroying with impunity, what victory is there ???
                Salvation from death is not a victory ... it is a coincidence!
                Victory will be if we can at least unite in the likeness of the USSR ... and I don’t see a chance ...
                an example of Ukraine on the face. in the center of my country are representatives of the State Department, congressmen and other cattle that scream out loud about independence from Russia ...
                I apologize that I am again returning to the channel that everyone is already tired of ...
                but really .... where is this world heading ???
                to be honest, I don’t even see the point in humanity. it seems to me that people are starting a kind of illness for the planet ... soon I’ll probably become a sociopath ...
                1. +1
                  16 December 2013 14: 36
                  Quote: silver_roman
                  but look: when on ORT they talk about victory in the fact that we did not let Syria break? this is of course a local victory, but what countries are already destroying with impunity, what victory is there ???

                  Russia is not obliged to protect everyone around the world. If the state is independent, does not have agreements with Russia or the interests of Russia on its territory, then let it defend itself.
                  1. +12
                    16 December 2013 15: 55
                    That's how we all allies and pros.shlyapali.
                    1. +5
                      16 December 2013 16: 14
                      Quote: kenig1
                      That's how we all allies and pros.shlyapali.


                      what and when?

                      if you look at these "allies" with an unclouded look, you will understand that they were not any allies for Russia.

                      Well, there were several countries whose interests coincided with the interests of Russia.
                      these are the GDR, Cuba and Vietnam.
                      (maybe some more)

                      but from the point of view of them, Russia should have defended their interests, and not vice versa.

                      and the rest, just a ballast
                      1. +3
                        16 December 2013 18: 21
                        Everything is "right", according to the modern day nothing personal is just business! am
                      2. 0
                        16 December 2013 19: 39
                        Quote: Starina_Hank
                        Everything is "correct", according to the modern


                        there is such a thing - geopolitics is called.

                        so there, no altruism is provided.

                        each state has its own interests, and it is not at all obliged to sacrifice them for the sake of anyone.
                        all the more so since this someone, afterwards, may well throw a benefactor.

                        however, if this is not an argument for you, then you can take the trouble to give examples of these super-duper allies whom Russia sold and betrayed.
                    2. +2
                      16 December 2013 18: 19
                      We not only slap many allies, but also betrayed!
                      1. 0
                        16 December 2013 20: 27
                        Quote: Starina_Hank
                        We not only slap many allies, but also betrayed!

                        And here is more detailed what kind of allies Russia betrayed, so as not to be unfounded.
                      2. Candy wrapper
                        +1
                        16 December 2013 23: 26
                        Yugoslavia for example.
                      3. +3
                        17 December 2013 14: 45
                        Quote: Fantik
                        Yugoslavia for example.

                        Yugoslavia did not even belong to the Warsaw Pact!
                        Did Russia have obligations to Yugoslavia?
                      4. Candy wrapper
                        0
                        17 December 2013 21: 44
                        These are our brothers Slavs, co-religionists among other things.
                      5. +2
                        17 December 2013 22: 26
                        Quote: Fantik
                        These are our brothers Slavs, co-religionists among other things.

                        AND...? Some "brothers" have some kind of consumer attitude towards Russia.
                        Whatever brothers they were, Russia had no obligation to defend Yugoslavia, and there was no talk of any betrayal. Yugoslavia could become part of the Russian Federation and no NATO would dare to attack.
                      6. Candy wrapper
                        +2
                        18 December 2013 20: 23
                        It's not about legal betrayal, but spiritual. The Slavic Orthodox people were torn to pieces, and we know for ourselves the children and women we deliver to them, we stock up their papers, and smile at them. We have an agreement with Syria on friendship and mutual assistance, since the Soviet era, and we do exactly as much for Syria as is necessary to prevent the laying of a gas pipeline through its territory, and the fact that there are children scumbags raping anyone in the Kremlin for more active actions moves. What about Libya? Only a naive person can believe that our leadership was not aware of the consequences of the adoption by the UN of that resolution on Libya. Blood? Yes, in Africa, children are dying of hunger and spit on everyone.
                      7. posarilkins
                        -5
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                  2. +9
                    16 December 2013 17: 46
                    Do you seriously believe that Russia in Syria defended only the Syrian state? To know the true motives of Russia, you need to know the essence of the whole situation.

                    No one ever defended anyone without personal gain. They defended Vietnam, got Kamran, got up in Cuba, got a base under their belly near Sysh ... GDR - exit to western Europe.
                    It always has been, it always will be.
                    1. +7
                      19 December 2013 19: 46
                      EVERYTHING IS CORRECT: HELPING OTHERS, DISHES AND ITS INTERESTS
                  3. +4
                    16 December 2013 19: 38
                    Quote: Setrac
                    Russia is not obliged to protect everyone around the world. If the state is independent, does not have agreements with Russia or the interests of Russia on its territory, then let it defend itself.

                    I fully support. Too often, Russia saved many at the cost of its integrity, and what it received in return from the saved ones (which later went over to the side of those who destroyed them) was spitting in the face. humiliation and reproach in tyranny. Enough already, everyone chooses his own path.
                  4. +1
                    17 December 2013 01: 44
                    Yes, Russia is not obliged to protect someone who does not have an agreement with Russia or the interest of Russia on its territory. But in order to revive the USSR 2: 0 you need those from which you can revive the USSR. You see, you need reliable friends: TS, CSTO, such who will be for Russia in the war and in the world, who will stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia, and then the reconstruction of the USSR.
                2. Current 72
                  +3
                  17 December 2013 04: 19
                  I am an old man, and sometimes I also have the thought that a person turns into a pathogenic bacillus that destroys not only himself, but the whole earth. Of course, this does not apply to all, but there are more and more such bacilli. But I think that people they will find a cure for these bacilli, and everything will return in our BIG COUNTRY, to order and prosperity.
              2. ovokasi08
                +20
                16 December 2013 13: 57
                I agree with you, mischief is everything: beer ... iPhone .... when it will be very necessary, we will show these 3,14 daras what we are capable of !!!!! I did not serve, unfortunately, honestly, unfortunately, but I am PATRIOT OF MY FAVORITE COUNTRY !!!!!! and I’ll go to everything like that kid on the tank ... we won’t let you down our grandfathers !!!!
                1. -9
                  16 December 2013 15: 02
                  What will be will be.
                  Not much depends on us ordinary people.
                  So if Che, we must meet fully equipped.
            2. +1
              16 December 2013 11: 17
              Quote: Irkutsk
              But if only for the army, then the zone for sure.

              Buddy What a weird alternative? Are they grown on raspberries? And by the way, are you illiterate or intentionally nickname distorted?
              PS In general, I agree with your message about the infinity of the generational conflict.
              1. +11
                16 December 2013 11: 23
                He distorted on purpose, he explained it earlier, I don’t want to. My nickname is my business.
                Not grown on raspberries, but on the street, like a normal kid.
            3. Jack122
              +21
              16 December 2013 11: 57
              [quote = irkutskanen] As for the disagreeable youth: the old men hissed at us too, when we walked in jeans and a cassette player on our shoulders along the street and listened to rock.
              ----
              Today’s youth are accustomed to luxury, they are distinguished by bad manners, despise authorities, disrespect elders, children argue with adults, greedily swallow food, and harass teachers. ”
              Socrates, V c. BC.

              I have lost all hope of the future of our country if today's youth tomorrow takes over the reins of government. For this youth is unbearable, unstable, just awful. ”
              Hesiod, 720 BC

              Well, you understand ...
              1. Border k
                +2
                16 December 2013 13: 34
                aha. Italy, Greece - Result
              2. +4
                16 December 2013 18: 24
                As they looked into the water: both Rome and Greece ended badly.
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            5. +3
              16 December 2013 18: 36
              But in my time I wrote about 5 pieces of reports to Chechnya. I didn’t let the clerk go, she said she needed it. I’m not matching my peers, it turns out. Not a complex, but ... regret?
              1. operator35
                +2
                17 December 2013 04: 30
                do not ask for war - do not give up war
                hi
            6. 0
              16 December 2013 21: 21
              Irkutchanan

              Quote
              "But if it were not an army, then the zone for sure."

              Do you understand what you wrote? Army as a way to escape prison. (Not for evading military service, but for a criminal way of life).

              Pluses.
              And for this a lot of advantages. Truly mysterious are the ways of the Lord
              1. +4
                17 December 2013 03: 20
                Do you understand what they accused me of? I about what the army in those years did from the pranks regarding adults. If youthful lawlessness in a civilian had not been interrupted, then a zone, as a logical conclusion, is inevitable, or a wooden suit. Many who served in the 80s of my friends went into the dashing 90s. So, in addition to force, the army was unable to give them anything else.
                And look at the metatarsus, it's pampering. I agree about the ways of the Lord, and indeed life is an interesting thing, I'm afraid to remember everything myself. But there was more good.
          2. +1
            16 December 2013 10: 59
            Well said.
          3. +11
            16 December 2013 12: 21
            Quote: domokl
            .A actually beer is you.

            Bravo Sasha! To the very point of explanation .. I can only join and add on my own. During the storm, all the mud spills onto the shore. You can see it now. And the sea is here. Nearby. You just need to raise your head .. I'm glad for that there are guys like the author of the article .. And they begin to think and ask questions .. So not everything is lost ...
            To the author of the article - be more optimistic. Remember the biblical truth. "THIS WILL NOT ALWAYS!"
          4. Angry reader
            +1
            16 December 2013 21: 01
            .. The thing is, they shake this foam vigorously .. do not let it settle, but support and try to increase the foam to beer in proportion. That's what really worries me, at least.
          5. Candy wrapper
            -5
            16 December 2013 23: 20
            In 81, before the first mission to the DRA (then still), the front-line men also told me that the youth is now different, our gut is thin and so on. They did nothing, they made out, did not disgrace the country and themselves.


            No, it’s just that you completely managed it. They profiled the country, not for nothing that the war veterans spoke of you like that.
          6. +1
            18 December 2013 12: 35
            You are right, this is a generational struggle ........ At one time, I also thought so. Service in one of our special units. And the favorite phrase in the training for combat training was (recruited by advertisement). And now when I come to the squad I see that I was wrong
        3. Ishtan
          +14
          16 December 2013 10: 14
          Engaged) Yes, and, thank God, my parents gave a good upbringing.
          1. +1
            16 December 2013 11: 20
            Excuse me, did you serve in the army?
        4. +1
          16 December 2013 18: 10
          I would advise you to read books at least sometimes, but not modern ones.
          1. 0
            17 December 2013 00: 27
            Why not modern? It’s just that not everything in a row, but from modern ones I advise you to read Prozorov, he writes wonderful! Yesterday I even read his article on VO, about the Battle of Molody!
        5. 0
          22 December 2013 01: 41
          “A man cannot be defeated if he does not want to. You can kill, but you can’t win. ”Boris Vasiliev (writer, war veteran)
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      3. vladsolo56
        0
        22 December 2013 04: 31
        Quote: A.YARY
        Get involved!
        Work, sports, education, military science-DO!
        In any case, it will do much more to the benefit than "self and fiddling"!
        Honor your parents, protect the weak, fear your conscience, and the USSR will return.

        completely wrong, just absolutely. Well i.e. you need to keep yourself in shape, but in order to be a Man you need to think about what is happening around. Only the Man who thinks about the future and worries about the world around us. Otherwise, it turns out strong, strong, smart, but still a slave
    2. +10
      16 December 2013 08: 52
      This is a test of peoples - at the level of "fortitude and adherence to traditions" - only this can withstand the imposed infantilism and permissiveness of the individual.
    3. +40
      16 December 2013 09: 02
      Quote:. The user of the site Ishtan.
      Is the end soon?


      I thought so too, until I realized that it was this time that separated the grain from the chaff.
      In the days of the USSR, behind the slogans, behind the system, which in an exceptional case allowed a Mercedes, it was difficult to decide who is who, but when the country lost its steel hand, which did not allow a person to control his passions, inevitable processes began, and came to the fore all the same pride, greed and, as a result, indifference.
      It is our time that allows a person to see himself as he is and to decide by the freedom to choose who and with whom he should be, that’s all.
      And many decide. Like Judas, after all, he had freedom of choice.
      1. +18
        16 December 2013 09: 20
        Quote:. The user of the site Ishtan.
        Is the end soon?


        It seems to me that way too - all this reminds one of the agony or prenatal agony of the new world.
        if you read the apocalypse - a lot seems significant ....
        1. +10
          16 December 2013 10: 58
          Quote: APES

          It seems to me that way too - all this reminds one of the agony or prenatal agony of the new world.
          if you read the apocalypse - a lot seems significant ....

          The apocalypse will be ... Only it will not be for the world, but for each individual. Agony, birth pangs ... I think you forgot what life is. And the answer is simple-Life is movement. Birth, growing up, offspring, death . But life in the offspring, which is better than the ancestors, smarter, stronger, tenacious.
          Humanity is buried throughout the history of this very humanity ... Those who buried, in the vast majority, are no longer remembered, but humanity is alive and will live on ...
          1. +3
            16 December 2013 17: 15
            Quote: domokl
            But life in the offspring, which is better than the ancestors, smarter, stronger, tenacious.

            Are you sure that it - the offspring - today is exactly what you drew it for yourself? ... And is it really better than the ancestors? ...
            Smarter ... stronger ... (by the way, in what exactly? ... physically? ... morally? ... spiritually? ...) tenacious ...
            1. +5
              16 December 2013 20: 34
              Quote: military
              Are you sure that it - the offspring - today is exactly the way you painted it for yourself?

              I’m not sure ... I know. By my own offspring ... I always thought that my son was crazy ... I studied halfway, registered with the police as a punk, Gaza listened at 14 years old ... In short, full out ...
              And then he went to the draft board to take away to serve ... And served for some time in a warm place ... And then the report and special forces in the Caucasus. Mother still does not know about his business trip ... And he returned without a scratch.
              I saw his colleagues, gathered at our place ... The same boys as mine .. Not better and not worse ...
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      3. +18
        16 December 2013 09: 34
        [quote = Vadivak
        I thought so too, until I realized that it was this time that separated the grain from the chaff.

        Yes, it’s not an individual matter, a guy is a matter of govort, something is spinning on the air, it’s restless at heart. I'm under fifty dollars, but I’m waiting for something globally bad. White and fluffy animal on the way.
        1. +8
          16 December 2013 10: 25
          Quote: Irkutsk
          It’s not an individual matter


          And in what? What is all haphazardly untwisted by itself? And no one is behind this? read carefully

          Quote: ....
          according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. It is light. They were not afraid.


          And now people have come to power, free from socialist prejudices, from a rigid framework of behavior. And no one knows where their free choice will turn tomorrow.
          1. +9
            16 December 2013 11: 01
            Quote: Vadivak

            read carefully
            Quote: ....
            according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. It is light. They were not afraid.

            And now people have come to power, free from socialist prejudices, from a rigid framework of behavior. And no one knows where their free choice will turn tomorrow.


            You send me more on YouTube, there is something to look carefully. He lived in those years and I remember how in the 70s a pedophile raged around his mother’s area until his half-dead militia took them away, but there was no trial, they said that they had hidden a relative in a psychiatric hospital. I remember how a drunk drove a panel van into a regular bus at rush hour, drove bodies and limbs scattered along the road. On the way from Artek, I got a bag of souvenirs on the train. In the early 80s, everyone was crazy about clothes, drug addicts appeared, fascist slogans became fashionable, young people drank soundly. And much more. Who is it that brains us then? Who was in power? Of course, not all of them were, but now there are enough healthy ones.
            1. +7
              16 December 2013 13: 28
              Quote: Irkutsk
              Who is it that brains us then? Who was in power? Of course, not all of them were, but now there are enough healthy ones.


              Now call the sound ones in the government by name, I’ll be older than you, I have someone to compare with.
              1. +3
                16 December 2013 14: 30
                About sound ones - I'm talking about youth. And at the top there are also, we live, to whimper and pull out the negativity, to wean everyone off .... You don’t need to look in the government, smart people will not climb onto the podium, and the president will be the banner.
                1. +5
                  16 December 2013 14: 52
                  Quote: Irkutsk
                  And at the top there are also, we live the same, whimper and pull out the negative


                  Why don't you call? How is it with Lena? there is an opinion and that's it ....
                  Quote: Irkutsk
                  It’s not in the government to watch,


                  What kind of pop parish have you probably heard? Or in European, if you like - the King makes the retinue.
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                  3. 0
                    17 December 2013 02: 00
                    Well, who made Gorbachev or Yeltsin?
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          2. +2
            16 December 2013 18: 38
            People just came without shame and without conscience.
        2. ovokasi08
          +6
          16 December 2013 14: 10
          you're right, Irkutsk citizen, something is approaching us and my heart is restless. Guys, we need to be strengthened in spirit, let's hope for the best, and prepare for the worst !!!!
      4. +13
        16 December 2013 10: 17
        But to me, who lived in the USSR, for a rather long time, and living at the present time does not seem so like you ... You say: "...In the days of the USSR, behind the slogans, behind the system, which in an exceptional case allowed a Mercedes, it was difficult to decide who is who, but when the country lost its steel hand, which did not allow a person to control his passions, inevitable processes began, and came to the fore all the same pride, greed and, as a result, indifference .... "But this is not true, or rather something is, but everything is not as Vysotsky said. I would compare the USSR with the Armed Forces of the country (and any). Yes, there was discipline (where more, where less), there were goals , tasks, the spirit of the military, which was developed by daily training and unimaginable difficulties. were the desire to improve the army all the time, technically, morally, maintaining a fighting spirit in it. (that is, the country of the USSR). The life of soldiers and officers in that army was always something altruistic , because the main task was to protect their people, territories, their values, and the abundance attracted to the decomposition of this. (This, as regards to rule with an iron hand) .. So in every army (countries of the world) it was different. and the spirit was stronger, and the technical power, and constant training, in others permissiveness, disagreement was allowed, each soldier was given tolerance in thinking, actions, relationships ... Such armies lost the ability to defend themselves and fell either under the influence of others, or more were destroyed. It was impossible to destroy the people of the USSR from outside ... But from the inside, having corrupted both the top of the rulers and inside with chewing gum, and slogans to fictitious freedoms (because freedom in its pure form does not exist, everyone depends on someone), and the collision of power, and led to tear the country to pieces .. What happened? Only those who have seen both can judge .. The new generation, from fragmentary phrases, propogandistic fabrications, and slander, it is difficult to navigate the past of their country, and the present. There are no firm established guidelines. Now, after 20 years of seeking freedom and striving to live like in the West, what do we see in our country? There is a lot of freedom, but there is neither joy from it, not confidence in the future of every member of society, everyone who can aim to flee to the west, taking with them the loot. Those who cannot, live here complaining about difficult times .. And after all, this is the case in other countries, Ukraine, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Moldova, etc. ..
        1. +1
          17 December 2013 02: 31
          Well, about the USSR, it’s rightly said. Let us revive the USSR 2: 0 — such an error cannot be made. Regarding Russia, this is our last bastion, our last hope. No one else will bring us together. Do you understand? Russia has no other way, how would you not like, how would you not be scared, lazy. YOU, RUSSIANS, RUSSIA, THERE ARE NO OTHER EXCEPTION except to be the best, the best country. One whole organism. You see, there is no way out of you. Everything. Russia is the world , reliability, kindness, to which everyone is drawn, with which everyone wants to be. You have no other choice but to be such a country. Because there someone is leaving for the west-nefiga-belarus, and nowhere am I I don’t want to from Belarus. And he’d gone west in the ass! You have to do your country so that you can live well here. And the creatures and scum run without a clan and tribe. It’s enough to stop dogging with each other, to show an example, yes it’s good to bring up children, to understand that you are the one people of your country. Well, you just don’t have any other option and will not, even crack it. Everything will be. And the army and navy and Russia are holy Whoa, Rusich!
          1. -4
            17 December 2013 03: 09
            And creatures and scum run without a clan and tribe.

            your Komsomol pathos, you can successfully place in your sphincter.
            Alle, comrade, it’s time to take the world a little wider than the potato grows.
      5. +18
        16 December 2013 11: 08
        Dear Vadivak,
        I do not argue, I just wanted to add. It is much more difficult for a person to force himself, to reach any heights in his own education, upbringing and simply in observing simple commandments: do not lie, do not steal, and so on do not ... Therefore, when someone appears who first forms a column out of the herd, the order does not it is important or the people, and leads to a really bright future, there are a lot of weak-willed citizens who, of course, would like to be in this bright future, but preferably not in a formation or a column but in a soft carriage and without any difficulties on the way, and of course with all sorts their weaknesses. And I believe that this is precisely why Stalin is scolded most of all, all this "pseudo-cultural innuendo" in a bright tomorrow wanted to be, wants, but at the same time did not want and does not want to put any efforts of its own or give up its weaknesses.
        Yours faithfully,
        IIIIvanov
        1. +3
          16 December 2013 14: 58
          Quote: IIIIvanov
          Yours faithfully,
          IIIIvanov


          Mutually hi
    4. yuri p
      -20
      16 December 2013 09: 52
      "Don't drift, let's break through!" ... WHERE? Into the abyss, the country is already heading in this direction.
      1. +1
        17 December 2013 02: 44
        Can you remind you of empty swimming trunks, when there was nothing to dress, there was nothing to eat, food was given on coupons, bread queues, complete unemployment and banditry that came from Gorbachev and Yeltsin? Yes, not everything is smooth now, it’s clear. We work, we work .Armie and navy, as they planned, rearm. We are already breaking through. We are not stopping.
    5. +19
      16 December 2013 10: 26
      So far we have such a 19-year-old youth - we have not lost anything yet! Break through!
      1. stroporez
        +15
        16 December 2013 10: 43
        I have the same thought. If at least one of the young asks such questions, it means that not all fell under the sworn "civilization" ..... and it pleases. I'm sure he's not the only one ........
        1. +1
          17 December 2013 02: 51
          Yes, even somehow I didn’t expect such a thing from a 19-year-old. Apparently, we started to rise. His parents are good. And our task is to raise such sons. The state is to save and increase, because they are its stronghold and guarantor .
    6. +8
      16 December 2013 11: 17
      NEED TO BREAKTHROUGH !!!!! No other way ! But everything is written correctly, and many have such an impression.
      However, EVERYONE forgets that the story is being done NOW !!! Therefore, you need to know, you need to feel, anticipate and DO THE FUTURE !!!! the way you want to see him!

      I hear a voice from the beautiful far
      He calls me to wonderful lands
      I hear a voice, the voice asks sternly:
      And today, what have I done for tomorrow?
      (http://aphorisms.su/pesni/detskie_pesni/prekrasnoe_daleko.html)
    7. +13
      16 December 2013 11: 23
      Quote: Dimych
      Do not drift, break through!

      Subscribing! :-)
      Moreover, those who will break through, we will learn from 100 steps, half a word, half a glance!
      However, as well as enemies ....
      We will stick together, rallying in rows shoulder to shoulder!
      There are a lot of us!
      1. +1
        16 December 2013 18: 56
        And all who are not with us are against us! Once we went through this.
    8. +35
      16 December 2013 11: 31
      But most of my peers are typical Americans ...

      It seems so ... from the side.
      When mom-dad is fed, time in bulk, the hormones KYPYAT and adrenaline from the w ... sprinkles - then the kittens are fooling around.
      And when he approves, 90% of them will gather, rolled up their sleeves, with tears and snot, sometimes crap, but - they will pack up and do it.
      Because they also had parents. Or relatives. Or just friends who "were not afraid. Not afraid of tomorrow. Not afraid of the enemy."
      Because living with LSD for an iPhone is boring... Therefore, he climbs onto the roof of a high-rise building. Therefore, he shoots his creative-zatsepersko-parkour vystebon on his iPhone - all the same, in his subconscious he sits that he is a man, he "zapad" to be a stunted piss. Only the brain is still working in the wrong direction, because there is no CASE. And a person without work is zero.
      A whine is not necessary.
      Explain to me, the generation of the USSR, when people became so indifferent? Explain ... when it became fashionable to "mow" from the army ???
      Here, just YOU, the youth, should clarify something for us, why it is easier for you either to take drugs, or "really scared from a possible Tomorrow."
      Once, too, he whined at the "young", however, quickly sober up. Or do you seriously think that the professionals were crushing the bandit international in Chechnya? These are like you and crushed. Thin, sick, fashionably tattooed and stylishly pierced "Pepsi-Cola children". They cried, they called my mother at night - and stood like their grandfathers in the Patriotic War.
      Because just like you, you asked yourself questions. Only they found answers to them. And you seek, do not stop. And not alone, but with friends. And you will succeed.
      1. DimychDV
        +9
        16 December 2013 18: 00
        >> do you seriously think that the professionals crushed the gangster international in Chechnya? These are like you and crushed. Thin, sick, fashionably tattooed and stylishly pierced "Pepsi-Cola children". They cried, they called my mother at night - and stood like their grandfathers in the Patriotic War. >>
        My friend says: if there is a war, I will not go to fight for these Abramovichs and Chubais.
        I say - and for the father's land? I talked a few years ago with a guy, he went to the second Chechen one, that after the New Year of 1996, she went, and even fought at the call, in the Marine Corps from the Pacific Ocean. Gymnasts, broniks were thrown off - and in vests alone they went on the attack. With Kalash and sapper shovels. And the Czechs were afraid of them. For what, for someone else's oil went, or what? Yes, just for the boys, for their own friends, resentment rose - and they went to crumble reptiles, ran out of cartridges - they chopped with shovels, torn enemies with their bare hands.
        And about "something is wrong here" - there is this too. We are being forced into a world in which the right of a scoundrel before an honest man should prevail. If the villain has his own deputies and pocket lawyers. They impose on us a world in which liberals yell: "Where is MY right? I also stole shares and candle factories - why don't they bring me power and money?"
        And after all, which is characteristic - it was under these slogans that the current Constitution of Russia was composed (which was well substantiated by the author of a recent article on this portal). But such slogans do not work in RUSSIA. Not in Russian, these are personal rights to download when everyone is equally powerless. So the Constitution still has to be edited, it’s just not the main thing now. And what is the main thing?
        Not to ruin the army - well, that’s right, although from the point of view of the taxpayer - all these security forces are pretty ridiculous. They live on taxes - and sometimes goats get their goat taxpayers. But you have to develop the production, my dear ones! After all, I live in the port city - and I see that only the raw material lever works. Oil, coal - all ports fell asleep to them.
        And who was disturbed by our fishing industry and coastal processing of seafood? She shrank dozens of times! Who was hindered by our fur farms and the global successes of our fur at global auctions? Their heat is not there, everything is in ruins. To whom did ship repair plants interfere? They stand in ruins and are almost inactive, and the piers are littered with coal. Who was prevented by the largest tin can factory in Asia? It is bankrupt and turned into a coal transshipment base. To whom did Daltechflot dredging interfere? It is sold cheaply, and the ports of fishing towns on the western coast of Sakhalin, for example, are covered with sand, and even quarter-yachts there cling to the keel with sand. Who interfered in Nakhodka with a reinforced concrete plant built for the needs of BAM - it gave out concrete pipes, pile shells, reinforced concrete structures for transport construction. What, on road construction sites, concrete is no longer needed? And the plant was again turned into a coal port. Why everywhere, wherever you look, production is destroyed? What does the urban population get paid for? For budget places, for the protection of which it’s horrible (not working), for any buy-sell, but not for the release of your own products.
        "Something is wrong here. But you know something, doctor, who is crazy here? .."
    9. 0
      16 December 2013 13: 25
      Just a classic psychosis.
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    11. rolik
      +4
      16 December 2013 13: 38
      Explain to me, the generation of the USSR, when people became so indifferent?
      I explain. The generation of the USSR is not at all indifferent. Indifferent and with a duster in the eyes, is mainly the generation of the 90s, Yeltsin's growth. Which coma of money does not know the authorities.
      The generation that is growing now, born from 2002 onwards. It’s already a little different., In any case, before his eyes there is no longer a country crawling on his knees, not miners banging helmets on asphalt, not adults who have not been paid for months. A developing, despite the liberals, society.
      1. 0
        17 December 2013 03: 00
        But surely you are talking about the generation of the 90s and the USSR.
    12. +6
      16 December 2013 13: 44
      Quote: Dimych
      break through!


      The physical culture complex of the TRP ("Ready for Labor and Defense of the USSR"), the state system of program and evaluation standards and requirements for the physical development and fitness of various age groups of the population.

      New - well forgotten old
    13. +5
      16 December 2013 15: 37
      Quote: Dimych
      Do not drift, break through!

      Forgive me, members of the forum, for rushing to the top of the discussion, but I really want to say to 19-year-old "Ishtan", in unison to "Dimych": - not everyone is in despondency, basically, the youth of Russia is very disposed to resist any challenges, than pessimists think. .. Although I am almost 50, but I see with my own eyes that the youth of Russia is waking up, in a sense condemns the previous generation for mistakes, and I can confidently say that judging by the surrounding “pioneers” and “Komsomol members” - they want (! ) to be better than us ... I believe that in 20 years we will leave Russia to a reliable generation.
      No need to sprinkle ash on your head - everything is not as sad as it might seem to someone in gloom - a mortal sin ...
      1. DimychDV
        +2
        16 December 2013 18: 06
        Do not indulge in the sin of despondency - there are much more attractive sins ...;)))
    14. +3
      16 December 2013 19: 29
      Quote: Dimych
      Do not drift, break through!

      When a person at the age of 19 asks such questions - it means that RUSSIA has not lost everything !!!
      I want to believe that you will grow up to be a real person in the full understanding of this term.
      A real person is a human spirit that is expressed in beliefs and feelings, will in aspirations, in relation to people and to oneself, in the ability to love and hate, to see an ideal in a dream and fight for it.
      Sukhomlinsky V.A.
    15. yuri p
      0
      16 December 2013 21: 42
      Why are you plus for what he gave the recipe how to get out of this situation, stupid "break through", I already asked the question "WHERE" so they instructed me cons, I also want cons, for especially dull ones, where do you want? zombie "break through" where they will show me, I want to know "WHERE AND WHY" and I see no point in shouting BANZAI, a person asked a question about the meaning of life and you answered HURRAY, IDIOTISM, INSTEAD OF ANSWER HOW AND WHY?
      1. +1
        17 December 2013 03: 06
        Such as you, there’s nothing to say, such-dead from birth. They will bury a star. It’s better to send them to the enemy as saboteur-pessimism.
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    19. 0
      16 December 2013 21: 46
      We must abolish the end of the world

    20. 0
      16 December 2013 23: 19
      Love yourself, respect people, take care of the world! And yet, nothing more is needed! And be prepared to defend your own beliefs!
  2. +25
    16 December 2013 08: 31
    But this very second year in my mind sits the same thought. Is the end soon?


    You are not the only one, and it has been going on for more than 2 years, years 6-7 I would say that something is coming, I can smell it from the inside out. what Something global.
    1. +14
      16 December 2013 08: 44
      We’re right that something is shitty, on the level of intuition, but it will definitely be (God forbid), but in principle we’re ready to look for the same people.
      1. +15
        16 December 2013 09: 03
        Quote: dark_65
        They’re right that something is shitty, at the level of intuition, but it will definitely

        There will be no shit, do not worry.
        Changes will be in the next two years.
        2015 - this year will be the beginning of an era of change.
        Quote: And Us Rat
        , something is coming, I can smell it inside. Something global.

        I agree. The changes will begin in Russia. Well, and then ....
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        2. nickname 1 and 2
          +1
          16 December 2013 09: 59
          Quote: baltika-18
          2015 - this year will be the beginning of an era of change.



          Not! They have already begun! snowball gives the INTERNET! Everyone can say whatever they want. Emancipated MOUTH or LANGUAGE. Will they bring good?

          who knows?
    2. +4
      16 December 2013 08: 55
      In fact, it is just a side effect of "the culture of consumption (necessary for the economy)", and the excesses of "humane multiculturalism".
      That's all, essentially nothing to worry about, pay less attention to the news, which are presented in a hysterical format.
      1. +5
        16 December 2013 10: 01
        Quote: And Us Rat
        You are not the only one, and it has been going on for more than 2 years, 6-7 years I would say that something is coming, I can smell it from the inside out. Something global.

        The same garbage. But!
        Quote: mirag2
        pay less attention to news that is served in a hysterical format.

        As illustration

        Of course, all this does not end in good. But! Don’t piss, men - we’ll break through, not the first time!
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +2
          16 December 2013 16: 37
          Thanks for Timur Sultanovich! Great therapy!
        2. +1
          16 December 2013 20: 59
          How not to SLOW in power alone BOURGUISES and embezzlers Will be sold and will not be able to eye
    3. Valery Neonov
      -2
      16 December 2013 13: 57
      That's all I wanted to ask, whether you (the children of Moses) are military, or you just do not give a shit ... the second option is closer to the topic (Jews and military?!), So you are not a good person. Yeah. hi
      1. +3
        16 December 2013 15: 37
        Quote: Valery Neon
        That's all I wanted to ask, whether you (the children of Moses) are military, or you just do not give a shit ... the second option is closer to the topic (Jews and military?!), So you are not a good person. Yeah. hi


        Not the first and not the second, we ... I am far from everything (except for the pig screeching of the Natsik), and about the children of Moses ... I somehow don't attach much importance to my nationality (especially since I'm a half-breed and "goy"), I generally keep quiet about religion - practically an atheist.
        Nick is related to my military service. wink
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +1
          16 December 2013 16: 55
          Quote: And Us Rat
          (except for the pig squeal of Natsik)

          There is a good anecdote. The correspondent comes to interview the chairman of the club "Poh" uista ".
          The questions are one after the other, but the answers are the same: "Yes, we all do it," but I do do it all! I asked about the sacred: but your salary, will you also like it? The answer was NO! Resurrecting from the discussion, the correspondent sarcastically remarked: "Sorry, dear, the problem is turning out! I agree with you, but there is no salary?"
          After scratching his turnips (forehead, nape, something else ... choose for yourself), the chairman wisely said: This is exactly your problem for me and for you.
          Who are you in solidarity with?
          1. 0
            16 December 2013 23: 33
            Quote: 11111mail.ru

            Who are you in solidarity with?

            Mostly with logic and common sense, I do not suffer from ideologies - I have my own head on my shoulders. hi I am a realist and a programmer.
  3. +15
    16 December 2013 08: 32
    Dear good old secret valuables still there! And will be! People clearly became aware of what is what, where is black in candy packaging and where is white in packaging unsightly!hi
  4. Valery Neonov
    +32
    16 December 2013 08: 34
    Cry from the heart! But you don’t need to be such a pessimist. RUSSIA WILL BE! EVERYBODY EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING!
    The Russians are a stubborn people, and if one day they had a good idea, sooner or later they will implement it with a truly Russian scale!

    K. Simonov -And whoever doubts this, just not WE.
    1. +10
      16 December 2013 08: 40
      Long live thanks to what we - no matter what! Cheers cheers cheers! good
    2. +4
      16 December 2013 09: 43
      [quote = Valery Neonov] Cry from the heart! RUSSIA WILL BE! Naughty EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING!

      Yes, no one argues, the global tryndets feel. The price will have to pay a lot.
    3. +6
      16 December 2013 09: 51
      Quote: Valery Neon
      Cry from the heart! But you don’t need to be such a pessimist. RUSSIA WILL BE! EVERYBODY EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING!
      The Russians are a stubborn people, and if one day they had a good idea, sooner or later they will implement it with a truly Russian scale!

      K. Simonov -And whoever doubts this, just not WE.

      I would like to add that a bad idea can get into the head of a Russian. And he is doing the same on a truly Russian scale (as an example, the revolution with the civil war and the collapse of the USSR with a "declaration of sovereignty."
      1. +4
        16 December 2013 11: 50
        maybe I agree. For we are creative people: we want - we create, we want - we get up laughing
    4. stroporez
      +4
      16 December 2013 10: 46
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      . RUSSIA WILL BE! EVIL AND EVERYTHING!
      --- Of course it will be !!! we have sho, have a choice ???
  5. +24
    16 December 2013 08: 34
    u will be fine !!! If you understand in your 19 years that the problem exists, then not everything is lost for Russia, since I think you are not the only one.
    1. +18
      16 December 2013 09: 27
      There would be more of these guys who have outgrown the "philistine" level and began to think about the future. And Russia was, is and will be! I don’t know how our generation "born in the USSR", but yours will definitely live up to the time when Russia will be the greatest country in the world, I believe in this, believe me and you, you just need to help her with your actions. soldier
    2. +5
      16 December 2013 09: 57
      Quote: avant-garde
      since I think you're not the only one.

      Unfortunately such units. In the gym, these are common, but in general they are an exception. The daughter’s environment is surrounded by cosmopolitans, interests — iPhone, MTV and other joys of life. The means of mass decomposition work in the sweat of the face, and so far I have to admit that they are doing it.hi
      1. +4
        16 December 2013 10: 04
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        daughters are some cosmopolitans, interests- iPhone, MTV and other pleasures of life.

        Yes, I know that I have a nephew for 13 years, so it’s the same in my head, and she wants to live in America, I can’t say anything intelligible for my questions about why and why, and why, except everyone in class wants to America you’ll have a conversation, it’s like changing your mind, the same crap will come from school again. This is mass, but I don’t know how to deal with it. Well, you cannot isolate a child. request
        1. +2
          16 December 2013 10: 34
          Quote: avant-garde
          This is mass, but I don’t know how to deal with it. Well, you cannot isolate a child.

          Unfortunately, this can only be fought through the experience of G. Sterligov, but these are extremes.
          1. +12
            16 December 2013 10: 51
            Ingvar, well, you can't give up, you need to somehow deal with this, at least in the family. My son (17 years old) and I constantly talk about patriotism, and you know, this is bearing fruit. At least at the moment, he has a negative attitude towards "philistine" pastime and wants to further devote himself to serving the Fatherland as a professional military man. And if I had missed it, another man in the street would have grown up who needed nothing but to eat, sleep and excuse the expression s (p) at. Education begins with a family, then school, but the family is the main thing. What kind of worldview you put into your child, he will grow up to be such a person. IMHO. hi
      2. stroporez
        +5
        16 December 2013 10: 50
        far from being a few ... there would have been a few --- long ago the American Marine Corps would have been walking around the Russian expanses, but precisely because we have such young people, and there are not so few of them --- that's because of this and "ochkuyut". I think it is necessary to trust our youth more ........
  6. Troy
    +9
    16 December 2013 08: 35
    If the same government with the same domestic policy remains in power, then nothing good.
    1. -4
      16 December 2013 08: 43
      Our guarantor said that we are for a healthy conservatism!
      And this is not a refusal to move forward and upward, but a refusal to move back and down !!!
      1. +21
        16 December 2013 09: 16
        Quote: Sid.74
        Our guarantor said that we are for a healthy conservatism!

        Today, no one is trying not to remember about the promised 2003-fold increase in GDP by 2010 by 2, like the affordable housing project. In February 2008, VV from the rostrum announced that we now have a plan to increase labor productivity over the 12 years to 2020 4 times — an increase in labor productivity by 4 times — this is an actual increase in GDP by 4 times. Shaw again?
        In the meantime, translating into Chinese at school is a tribute, to an official - Sun, a traffic cop - throw it, to a doctor - take it out, and salaries - hun.
        1. 128mgb
          -1
          16 December 2013 09: 44
          About the promised GDP increase in 2003 by 2010 times by 2, no one is trying today
          Again 25b, and the fact that the crisis and even the leading economies sank steeply, you don’t take it into account? Or, on principle, I’ll stick my 5 kopecks ..
          1. +5
            16 December 2013 09: 59
            Quote: 128mgb
            Again 25b, and the fact that the crisis and even the leading economies sank steeply


            That is why in Germany canceled paid tuition? And this is about the crisis
            According to preliminary estimates, real US GDP growth in the third quarter of 2013 amounted to 2,8% in annual terms
          2. 0
            16 December 2013 19: 17
            Well, then what language to chat? Or is there no connection between the tongue and the head?
        2. +9
          16 December 2013 09: 58
          Well, I must say, first of all, that the work of the government does not suit me either! And I am not Putin’s lawyer!
          Here you need to clearly understand that with this promise Vovka is moving away from liberalism and that is good! Liberal Carthage must be destroyed! From the endless whining of all the media that everything is fine, if not today, then tomorrow is necessary, I am tired of my friends!
          See how slowly and gently move the fifth column aside! I clearly remember what the howl was on the eve of the presidential elections, the United Russia party of crooks and thieves everywhere throughout the runet, Putin is a thief and a murderer in all the media in general, and that where are these sinister now, Freedom tea is not 37 year, just throw mud at us only without hysterics! Why nobody wants to remember this! Why so short memory of our people that 1999 year, too, forgot what kind of ass was going on all the post Soviet space!

          But the respected magic sign or say that Surkov propaganda!
          1. +9
            16 December 2013 10: 14
            Quote: Sid.74
            See how slowly and gently shift the fifth column to the side!


            Aptly. Precisely gently.

            The investigation of the criminal case against the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov, accused of negligence, is completed, in the future he can be released from liability under an amnesty on the occasion of the 20th anniversary of the Constitution,
            1. +3
              16 December 2013 10: 30
              Actually, I look at this dark story in two ways, the trouble is that there is little information about what and how exactly was stolen! I'm talking about reliable data! Giving levers of control to such a snubber as serdyukov is tin! Well, I have no censor words to say something else! This suggests that you can not give a civilian to manage the military department!
              And about the amnesty is badly extremely bad! But so this bastard and in prison can he do things all the same carrier of strategic secrets! hi
              1. +6
                16 December 2013 13: 32
                Quote: Sid.74
                But so this bastard and in prison can do things he still carrier of strategic secrets!


                The largest of which breed of wood was used in the decoration of the aircraft of the Minister of Defense, he does not need the rest. hi
                1. +3
                  16 December 2013 13: 45
                  Touche Vadivak! Well, neither you nor I thoroughly know what he knows and what does not! smile
              2. +3
                16 December 2013 19: 19
                Well, to whom and what will he tell in a separate cell?
            2. stroporez
              +4
              16 December 2013 10: 54
              but how else ?? anatol with vova - one blood
          2. +1
            16 December 2013 10: 32
            The plate is out of date, we have already moved Germany!
            1. +1
              16 December 2013 11: 04
              This is outdated by the way. good and here is the distribution by industry by the way!
          3. +2
            16 December 2013 12: 29
            I will say that you are not very competent, the figures are not cleared not from inflation, nor from exchange rate differences. Here are the data from Rosstat http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/vvp/tab2a.xls 2003 - 29 304,9 billion rubles and 2010 - 39 762,2 billion rubles in constant (!) 2008 prices. It turns out that the growth was 35,7%, sit down Vova TWO and the crisis has nothing to do with it. Even if we take the average annual increase from 2004-2007 to 2 billion per year, then according to the results of 475, the increase would be 2010%. In management, the implementation of plans + -59,2% is excellent, + -10% is good, + -17% is satisfactory, again TWO.
          4. ovokasi08
            +2
            16 December 2013 14: 38
            What is this table? what are the numbers?
          5. +2
            16 December 2013 19: 47
            [quote = Sid.74] From the endless whining from all the media that everything is karachun, well, if not today then tomorrow is necessary, I'm friends tired! On a dismal theory that you couldn’t go far away, you cannot revive a country with such a theory!
            Look how slowly and gently they are moving the fifth column to the side! I clearly remember what howl stood on the eve of the presidential election, United Russia party of crooks and thieves everywhere in everything, Putin is a thief and a murderer in all media in general, and that where are these evil people now, on tea is not freedom for the 37th year, they also pour mud on us without hysteria! Why doesn’t anyone want to remember this! Why is such a short memory among our people that 1999 also forgot what kind of ass was going on throughout the post-Soviet space! [/ Quote /]
            No comment ++++++++ !!!
          6. +1
            18 December 2013 11: 09
            I agree with every word. A plate is good, if reliable. Stability that leads up =))
        3. +1
          16 December 2013 10: 09
          Quote: Vadivak
          About the promised 2003-fold increase in GDP by 2010 by 2, no one is trying to remember today,

          This promise is practically fulfilled.
          Russia's GDP (nominal) for 2003 13243 billion
          for 2010 45166 billion
          for 2012 62357
          So in this sense, I have no questions for him. in 2013, more than 67 are expected and here of course we slowed down, but this applies not only to us
          1. +7
            16 December 2013 10: 27
            Quote: 1c-inform-city
            This promise is practically fulfilled.
            Russia's GDP (nominal) for 2003 13243 billion
            for 2010 45166 billion
            for 2012 62357


            You must have beguiled us with someone
            In Belarus, the economy has grown by 101,7 percent over the decade, in Kazakhstan by 121 percent, and in China by 162,1 percent.

            Our growth of real GDP from 2003 to 2010 amounted to 59,2 percent. For GDP to grow by 10 percent over 100 years, the economy needs to grow by 7,1 percent per year. Like in China.
            1. +1
              16 December 2013 11: 48
              Dear namesake,
              NOT TIRED ?!
              1. +8
                16 December 2013 13: 42
                Quote: Sacmagon
                Dear namesake,
                NOT TIRED ?!

                Long tired of no less respected, and you?
                1. 0
                  16 December 2013 17: 04
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Tired of

                  so can you give REAL numbers?
                  and not just ranting?

                  and then about your apponents figures and diagrams, but from you only: "sheef truncated gone !!!"
                  1. +2
                    16 December 2013 17: 15
                    Quote: Rider
                    and then about your opponents


                    Well, you give a pancake. More careful with the Russian.

                    And what do you bring? Write. Abramovich’s breakfast and schoolboy’s breakfast at a rural school? Please eat on health

                    To earn money for one breakfast of Roman Abramovich, the average Russian needs to work for two years: the billionaire left about $ 60 in the famous New York restaurant Nell's. A quarter of this amount, or almost $ 000, went to the waiter in the form of a tip.
                    1. -1
                      16 December 2013 17: 43
                      Quote: Vadivak
                      And what do you bring? Write. Abramovich’s breakfast and schoolboy’s breakfast at a rural school?

                      then there will be no digits 7
                      lucidly.

                      but I’ll give you a couple
                      The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has published on its website the economic results of 2012 for its member countries and candidate countries. The volume of GDP of the Russian Federation at purchasing power parity amounted to 3,38 trillion. dollars, Germany - 3,30 trillion. dollars. Thus, Russia became the largest European economy for the first time after the collapse of the USSR.
                      http://oko-planet.su/finances/financesnews/190772-oesr-rossiya-krupneyshaya-ekon
                      omika-europy.html


                      Well, the fact that Abrasha doesn’t eat potatoes in vegetable oil is clear, but I cannot understand how this relates to your statement about the "default on GDP".

                      Are you outraged that you did not plant a stool?
                      so am I, too, but the fact that his jambs were removed and actively corrected is already AGRICULTURAL PLUS.

                      Well, for fans to cry on the network as FSE is bad, there is a wonderful article
                      Conversation with a resident of the "information ghetto"
                      http://oko-planet.su/spravka/spravkamir/202193-razgovor-s-zhitelem-informacionno
                      go-getto-kak-nenavist-spasaet-ot-raboty-nad-soboy.html


                      I mean that the difference between me and you is that you: "They didn't put stoolkin - ahh corruption, nepotism, the country is dying"
                      me: "removed, fine, we can now take up the army"


                      Py si: quarrel over spelling and punctuation.
      2. +5
        16 December 2013 10: 20
        As one of the wise said, "Standing at the place of death is like".
  7. Baton
    +27
    16 December 2013 08: 36
    Dear Ishtan! Fortunately, I was lucky to be born and live my best years in the Soviet Union. Yes, it was a COUNTRY! But, having read your "cry from the heart," I would like to note: do not judge the state of the present country and current people by what they are trying to drum into us on TV, in newspapers and other streams of dirt and negativity. I'm sure it's not that bad. You can't lose confidence, because that's what THEY want. Visit the site "Made by us" more often, and it will be easier for you.
  8. +10
    16 December 2013 08: 37
    The Internet and TV have become the basis for educating a person, and there whoever pays the money orders the music. And there the advertising rules and the idea of ​​consumption there is simply no place for the rest. Banal bread and circuses.
  9. +16
    16 December 2013 08: 37
    Such a mature thought of a 19-year-old! The draft in the army this year went off with a bang, about 20 thousand even superfluous.
  10. +14
    16 December 2013 08: 39
    As long as there are such young people as AUTHOR in our country, the end will not come!
  11. +18
    16 December 2013 08: 40
    But to them all. Do not wait. And if the Butch begins, then it will be necessary to get up to go and participate. To stop once and for all, as they say.
    1. +1
      16 December 2013 09: 23
      A wonderful "fruit".
    2. Platov
      0
      16 December 2013 15: 45
      But I did not try to send the parcel to Europe.
      1. +1
        16 December 2013 22: 58
        Yeah. In the package with the inscription "Environmentally friendly natural product. Without GMO". And then they have there completely chemistry-rubber, silicone. laughing
  12. 0
    16 December 2013 08: 40
    Hello hi !
    But I do not understand the distortion of religion for terrorism.
    Well, suppose that the distortion of religion has not begun just now, to recall the same crusades, and the Ottomans interpreted the Quran very freely, but what’s going to explode soon ...., it seems in physics this is called reaching critical mass
    1. +1
      16 December 2013 10: 18
      In fact, the Ottomans were very tolerant; they cannot be compared with Wahhabis.
  13. +7
    16 December 2013 08: 43
    And it all started with the fact that consumers began to make people. Cult of consumption. now squealing already that they can instill in Russia homosexuality. and the Democrats themselves are already mired in this d..me. all principles of building a society are violated. hence the degradation of the brain. loss of true landmarks.
    In fact, humanity is on the road nowhere.
  14. SAG
    +6
    16 December 2013 08: 44
    My questions are the same constantly! Just not afraid!
    And before the Second World War, the situation was much worse, in a huge number of aspects, because they had pulled the boots on the head of the Nazis. So: you can only believe in Russia! wink
  15. Soldier
    +16
    16 December 2013 08: 45
    And you bro, don’t be like everyone else. You don’t have to be herdful, love iPhones and America. Good won not only in fairy tales. In the 90s, when everyone wanted to be, they’ve been shameless, I chose the army, and it’s hard not to it happened, I still do not regret the choice. And a friend went to tech engineers (everyone laughed and twisted a finger at the temple, remembering the engineering salary) And now he is a very sought-after specialist. And in general, I noticed a trend, over the past few years, that he wants more and more young people in the USSR. And maybe it is in your hands to return our Homeland and Country with a capital letter.
  16. +13
    16 December 2013 08: 46
    Quote: SAG
    so after all, they pulled the boots on the head of the Nazis.


    By the way, on the occasion of mowing from the army. He himself grew up in a small provincial town in the north: p. Komi, Inta (35 thousand people - everyone knows each other). Among the friends "there were no haymakers" - everyone whom I knew well served an urgent term without straining too much, heard the truth about a couple of clowns, one of whom boiled boiling water over his leg so that he would not go to a military commissar, and the other sat in a durka, well, so we laughed with them only. laughing
    1. +9
      16 December 2013 08: 49
      what kind of super hero is this? laughing, man boot, our answer to the spider man laughing laughing
      1. +2
        16 December 2013 10: 15
        Quote: avant-garde
        what kind of super hero is this? , man boot, our answer to the spider man

        So a foshist. laughing And the boot is present. Interestingly, and the tarpaulin will easily pull on their heads? Kirza will be tougher than rubber laughing
  17. +5
    16 December 2013 08: 47
    "And explain to me, stupid and unreasonable, when it became fashionable from the army to" mow "??? Why now they say not" good fellow ", but" "to those who have served?"
    I think the year of commercials began with the 79th, when Afghanistan began

    "Explain to me, the generation of the USSR, when did people become so indifferent? Explain ... For, according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. It was a bright country. They were not afraid. They were not afraid of tomorrow. They were not afraid of the enemy. They knew that everything would be fine. And I personally have no such confidence in the future. "
    This clearly took shape after 91, when the time of uncertainty came, without a goal for society and various kinds of financial turmoil, then everyone stood for himself because there was no one to help in this situation and how and where the situation would develop was also not clear, I must say with Since then, the goal did not appear and the direction of development of society, too, or rather, the trend towards the consumer society was voiced. And it happened because the shopkeeping in the brain won (including those in power), I wanted a "sweet" life like in the West, sausages to be there every day, imported clothes to choose from, etc .. now it's all there , but as we see from the article there is no happiness, it turns out that they were looking for it in the wrong place?
    1. +3
      16 December 2013 19: 49
      Quote: saag
      I think the year of commercials began with the 79th, when Afghanistan began

      And I remember something else:
      back in 1984, before distribution, half-schools in Afghanistan were requested, reports were written ...
  18. skyil
    +9
    16 December 2013 08: 49
    Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast. The truth is old, but it works! And there is young people who have not gotten lost in the Western dirty slime. So I suggest PISSIMISM to STOP!
  19. +5
    16 December 2013 08: 50
    No pissimism, everything will be fine !!! I do not even doubt it !!!
  20. +4
    16 December 2013 08: 51
    It is good that we still have such young people, there would be more of them and then we will definitely break through. Respekt.
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    2. Energet1k_
      0
      16 December 2013 09: 17
      Break through to what? And what is the chance that after such a breakthrough we will not face the abyss of the 17th and 91st?
      1. +4
        16 December 2013 10: 25
        Quote: Energet1k_
        Let's not face the precipice of the 17th and 91st years?

        Aaatst pessimism! soldier
  21. makarov
    +4
    16 December 2013 08: 55
    I will try to give out my own vision. It all starts with the family. And above all, raising a child by teaching him knowledge, with an explanation: good and bad, right and wrong, good and evil, etc. When this is absent in the family, then the child tries to get education in kindergarten, on the street, at school, in the circle of friends, it is from there that he receives foundations in a perverted form of life and consciousness.
  22. +10
    16 December 2013 08: 56
    "Why is it now said to the serving man not" well done ", but" "?"

    Hmm ... I have never encountered such a thing. what A servant from a non-serving person can hear such a thing - it’s right at the butt winked
    1. stroporez
      +2
      16 December 2013 11: 03
      Quote: Stiletto
      I have never encountered this before
      - You are a lucky person. While studying in Moscow, the teacher gave me this in plain text. he asked: "why did you serve ... ????" 1994. and yes
      now --- the colleague’s son has come, he’s registered himself --- Duc at him as a MILITARY (!!!!!!!!!!!!) as he looked at the moron .....
      1. +2
        16 December 2013 11: 52
        Duc at him by the CROWN (!!!!!!!!!!!!) ...

        Man, if not a secret, the military commissar too ... in Moscow? wink
        1. stroporez
          0
          16 December 2013 16: 13
          Ne.Volga Federal District
  23. HAM
    +5
    16 December 2013 08: 57
    If there are people like you, Istvan, everything is not lost.
  24. +7
    16 December 2013 09: 02
    Quote: And Us Rat
    You are not the only one, and it has been going on for more than 2 years, 6-7 years I would say that something is coming, I can smell it from the inside out. Something global.

    This has been going on for 20 years already ... Starting in 1986, when they first began to pervert ideology (Gorbachev), and in 1991 canceled it altogether (Yeltsin and Co), replacing it with a perverted "American dream". Everything for consumption - satisfy your animal passions - sex, devour, entertainment. And this must be changed. It is necessary to educate patriotism - there seem to be attempts, but they are too weak ...
    1. 0
      16 December 2013 23: 52
      Quote: artifox

      This has been going on for 20 years already ... Starting in 1986, when they first began to pervert ideology (Gorbachev), and in 1991 canceled it altogether (Yeltsin and Co), replacing it with a perverted "American dream". Everything for consumption - satisfy your animal passions - sex, devour, entertainment. And this must be changed. It is necessary to educate patriotism - there seem to be attempts, but they are too weak ...


      That ideology was utopian, you won’t be full of high matters. To go against natural instincts - to cripple the psyche. It is necessary without extremes simply, you need a GOLDEN MIDDLE. Do not rush to the feeder like a pig (in Yusovian) and do not try to put on the robe of the ascetic (in Soviet). Neither one nor the other leads to good. It is necessary to start educating children correctly - to teach goodness, conscience, honor, a craving for sciences, new discoveries and achievements, then there will be prosperity. The main trouble today is not in systems - but in people, Because people are the system.

      There is an ancient wisdom: every nation receives that ruler - which it deserves
  25. 12061973
    -1
    16 December 2013 09: 03
    and where to get LSD, which is dripped for sugar, I visited in 1991, I liked it, now I can’t find one, just some brands. tell me where to find it and how much it costs.
    1. Ishtan
      +7
      16 December 2013 10: 29
      Can't help it. For drug addicts do not count as people. And no matter, LSD, "grass" or something heavier.
      1. 12061973
        -1
        16 December 2013 12: 45
        But what about all the peers who want LSD, or not all, or Istvan didn’t write it. Daughters bought a 5-apple, she probably needs her for an image, but I see nothing bad about that either.
      2. 12061973
        0
        16 December 2013 12: 45
        But what about all the peers who want LSD, or not all, or Istvan didn’t write it. Daughters bought a 5-apple, she probably needs her for an image, but I see nothing bad about that either.
  26. Dim Sir.
    +4
    16 December 2013 09: 04
    There is no end at all; there is the end of the old and the beginning of something new.
    And yes, pay less attention to the escalation of hysteria in the network and the media, in life there are much more amenities;)
  27. +3
    16 December 2013 09: 04
    It's good that many people in Russia now understand that something is wrong in the world, in Europe there are such people too, just when they say, "they say, brothers, something is wrong in our glorious fatherland," a terrible camarilla of corrupt reporters who present it all as "terrible nationalism, communism, etc.". After which a person is spread around in a crowd, this is not easy to endure.In modern Europe, unfortunately, there are only two organized forces: migrants and the LGBT community, they are still each other do not interfere, but this is for now, by the way, all these gay parades and other processions are carried out as far as possible from the Muslim quarters, because the average Frenchman knows, or there the Dutchman cannot do anything to them, even if they really want to, but the crowd of radicalized Arab youth very much can, while these two forces somehow get along, but I do not think that this will last long. True, it is clear that the problem cannot be solved by "peaceful" and "democratic" methods, a real "strong hand" is needed here, and modern political actors E Europe you yourself saw, insignificant pygmies shaking for their skins and places, unable to think somehow, even the modern insignificant Russian power, one of the most stupid and powerless, after the Provisional Government of 1917, of course, because they are out of competition, so even this power looks giants in comparison with the current European politicians, Helmut Schmidt correctly said at a meeting with Putin, "and they say there is no one to talk to, one misery."
  28. Kolovrat77
    +1
    16 December 2013 09: 06
    Of pessimists over time, all-adherents are born - this is a virus that gnaws at the soul. The best way to give optimistic thoughts is with a butt on the hump. A person after such an anti-virus execution straightens right away, in his eyes thought and faith in a brighter future. My opinion.
    1. Ishtan
      +7
      16 December 2013 10: 31
      I have stated my point of view. But, excuse me, I am not the "All-Divine", as you say so. On the contrary, we will still fight.
      1. Kolovrat77
        +2
        16 December 2013 11: 00
        Quote: Ishtan
        I am not the "All-seer"


        Of course not, and it pleases. But in order to understand the whole depth of what I have said, they must be imbued to the end. Go to the Army and after, with due commanders, we will understand each other from the floor of the word. I sincerely wishing you success do not despair and do not believe everything that is written even here in VO.
  29. +18
    16 December 2013 09: 07
    It all started with the debunking of Comrade Stalin. He was the personification of the noble goal of building a mighty, just state! And the people had FAITH that such a state would be! Pouring slops on Comrade Stalin, Khrushchev undermined this faith! And then the stratification of society, distrust of the party nomenclature ... and here comes Gorbachev with his "perestroika". So we got it! And our people cannot live without FAITH and precisely a HIGH PURPOSE! Maybe the people need such a test - to feel the charm of capitalism in order to get together and restore JUSTICE! Return the socialist system! And so it will be! And there will be pride for the country, and the honorable duty to serve in the army!
    1. Nikolay D.
      +7
      16 December 2013 10: 38
      Quote: Egoza
      It all started with the debunking of Comrade Stalin


      I agree, it all started with Khrushchev, it was he who destroyed the foundations that Stalin laid, the leader had to pinch him even when he was doing lawlessness in Moscow, but, in general, this is a fatal mistake of the great. But now the liberalist writes space as victories "in spite of" the cunning ghoul, saying that he made the right choice, forgetting at the same time that Khrushchev got his hands on an already industrial superpower with its huge (at its peak) potential built by Stalin and his loyal associates ...
      So the verdict of the USSR was made by Khrushchev, let him burn in hell for another thousand years.

      Well, the guy who wrote the article well done, at 19, is looking for those meanings that many begin to look for a little later than 30.
      1. +5
        16 December 2013 13: 01
        The verdict of the USSR was pronounced by all the upper and lower! If millions of people who had voted for the USSR simply went outside demanding to save the country, no one could do anything.
        1. +1
          16 December 2013 23: 11
          In Ukraine, the referendum was a little trickier. There was a clause in the bulletin: "for independence as part of the Union" - you can treat this way and that. hi
      2. +3
        16 December 2013 21: 37
        You can, of course, look for the causes of historical turns in the actions of a particular person. But, IMHO, the departure from the fundamental ideas of socialism began when the power of the Soviets (true democracy) was replaced by the power of the party (i.e., the self-proclaimed elite). And the collapse became inevitable when mobsters and skins climbed into the party for privileges in the party. They betrayed the idea, the people, and the state. Many of them are now baptized under the TV camera in temples.
        But the belief in the possibility of building a just society is ineradicable, and in our country more than anywhere else. Having sipped the "charms" of capitalism, more and more people are beginning to think about other ways of civilization development. And it cannot but rejoice that these issues are of increasing concern to young people.
        And that means - we will break through!
        PS Nikolay D., with great joy seeing your profile picture, add:
        SO SAY WE ALL! smile
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    2. +3
      16 December 2013 12: 58
      Quote: Egoza
      It all started with the debunking of Comrade Stalin. He was the personification of the noble goal of building a mighty, just state! And the people had FAITH that such a state would be! Pouring slops on Comrade Stalin, Khrushchev undermined this faith! And then the stratification of society, distrust of the party nomenclature ... and here comes Gorbachev with his "perestroika". So we got it! And our people cannot live without FAITH and precisely a HIGH PURPOSE! Maybe the people need such a test - to feel the charm of capitalism in order to get together and restore JUSTICE! Return the socialist system! And so it will be! And there will be pride for the country, and the honorable duty to serve in the army!

      Finally, the essence is written. Khrushchev did not smash the "cult of Stalin", he smashed the pure idea of ​​a just society that Stalin was building. Having shattered this immaterial dream, he had no choice but to take the direction of goulash-communism, which led to the gradual secularization of the consciousness of most people. In the late USSR, few people believed in the ideals of communism, interests began to be reduced to a career, receiving benefits, among ordinary people, the growth of alcoholism. Let the author of the article look for articles about the USSR on VO and read the forum under them, there the majority quickly slides into memories of girls, beer, fish, and not about high matters. But at the same time, "the USSR was a bright country", there was no struggle for existence, confidence in the future, there was no crazy stratification that gives rise to envy and resentment, people were not screwed up and they had time to live, not survive, inadequate ambitions were held back , man was not a wolf to man and it is true.
      What will happen? The feeling is the same as that of the author, all forecasts of global changes lie in the period 2015-2020. Indeed, one cannot live like that, human bestiality crosses all sides, which means that reckoning is coming soon.
    3. +2
      16 December 2013 19: 57
      Quote: Egoza
      He was the personification of the noble goal of building a mighty fair state!

      The country's only disinterested helmsman was (albeit a fierce hefty).
  30. +8
    16 December 2013 09: 07
    from the Don.
    Everything is not so bad! Over the past 20 years, people have gained immunity to all negativity. What should I do, live, enjoy every coming day, love, raise children, help my neighbor, honor my parents, love the country in which I live, ignore advertising, do not follow the crowd, be yourself!
  31. +6
    16 December 2013 09: 18
    If in our country there are still thinking young people like the author, not everything is lost.
    I think time will put everything in its place.
  32. +9
    16 December 2013 09: 21
    Take the same Europe. Once Christian, albeit with flaws. And now what? Abomination Hold
    - You do not believe everything that is said from the TV screen, there is only part of the truth. It happens that they hide it, but, on the contrary, they inflate it. Yes, in the same Paris, compared to 20 years ago, there are almost crowds of Africans and, in general, in distant regions, it’s like "district 13" :), but remember Moscow 20 years ago. And just as Moscow is not Russia, Paris is not Europe. So this is firstly - not everything is so sad yet.

    The dominance of "American culture", which in the majority is such ****
    - Dear, those who did not live in America - it was living, and not driving - have a very vague idea of ​​their culture. Ask comrade Nagana :) What is shown on the screens is again New York, LA, Harlem :) - this is not all of America ... There are cowboys in America, Mark Twain and Jack London, Dreiser and Gable, respect for nature and heritage , in some respects and places a rather heroic story of the _narod_ and once attempts to find ways to approach democracy (about fooling - another question :)) ...

    In total, I mean that they are also trying to fool us, to set the masses against something somewhere for some purpose, but we must try to distinguish grains from the chaff ...

    PS regarding the fact that in the USSR everything was better ... IMHO, in something better it is somehow worse, what is the point of lamenting now, oh you parents, pro ..li :( Everything was just different!
    1. Ishtan
      +6
      16 December 2013 10: 36
      As for Moscow - I can’t comment on you in any way, for I myself am a Far East.
      And as for American culture - it’s not for nothing that I put it in quotation marks. I had in mind most of Hollywood films, media, etc. that. in my opinion, really fools people
      1. +1
        16 December 2013 11: 47
        Quote: Ishtan
        As for Moscow, I can’t comment on you in any way, because I myself am a Far Easterner. And as for American culture, it’s not for nothing that I put it in quotation marks. I had in mind most of Hollywood films, media, etc. that. in my opinion, really fools people


        Duck and we are Siberians :) And in this, yes, I agree, but our films like "On the Game" are somehow not entirely patriotic :(
        When I was in the States for the first time more than 20 years ago, the Americans in the outback knew about Russia only "Gorby" and for some reason Danko (Schwartz's hero in the Red Heat). This was right after the Iron Curtain. After 5 years, they already knew that it was cold in Siberia and bears walk the streets :) That is, they have already grown to the level of knowledge of Muscovites :) And in 2008 we discussed the M-BB P castling and a visit to China (I forgot which of them: ))). So really media is power ...
      2. 0
        16 December 2013 11: 47
        Quote: Ishtan
        As for Moscow, I can’t comment on you in any way, because I myself am a Far Easterner. And as for American culture, it’s not for nothing that I put it in quotation marks. I had in mind most of Hollywood films, media, etc. that. in my opinion, really fools people


        Duck and we are Siberians :) And in this, yes, I agree, but our films like "On the Game" are somehow not entirely patriotic :(
        When I was in the States for the first time more than 20 years ago, the Americans in the outback knew about Russia only "Gorby" and for some reason Danko (Schwartz's hero in the Red Heat). This was right after the Iron Curtain. After 5 years, they already knew that it was cold in Siberia and bears walk the streets :) That is, they have already grown to the level of knowledge of Muscovites :) And in 2008 we discussed the M-BB P castling and a visit to China (I forgot which of them: ))). So really media is power ...
  33. +3
    16 December 2013 09: 26
    Everything in this life happens in cycles. The beginning of the 20th century. Famine, devastation, internecine warfare. Now is the beginning of the 21st century. Everything is completely the same as 100 years ago.
    1. +4
      16 December 2013 11: 06
      Agree! Now is the time for global change. It is important that we understand this. It is important that young people are not all fooled by American false values. It is important that we preserved our essence of the Russians in the spirit of the people, were able to convey it to our children. It is a pity that there are still many who do not see and do not understand what the author of the article sees and understands, despite their youth. There are adults who are quite satisfied with the current situation in the country, in the world and with their situation, which everyone is happy with, if only they would not be touched. But very soon we will come to the conclusion that everything will concern everyone and everyone. And no one will escape the choice to be made. And only very strong-willed people can make a true, saving choice for the country. I also really hope that Russia will once again rise from the ashes. It simply cannot be otherwise. I hope that I will see it with my own eyes and I will have the opportunity to make the right choice.
  34. +3
    16 December 2013 09: 27
    Don't worry buddy! Russia will get out of this cataclysm; our people have not gotten out of such situations yet. The main thing is that we did not accept European "values" when they were pushing us from the West. Europe will surely disappear soon, there the indigenous population is greatly reduced every year due to same-sex marriages, an increase in the Arab population from Africa and other reasons.
  35. +2
    16 December 2013 09: 37
    Quote: Egen
    respect for nature and heritage, in some respects and places rather heroic story _naroda_

    And to me personally, it’s all the same .... how good they are inside !!!! I draw conclusions on their affairs. And this is blood .. military bases .. the desire for universal hegemony .. So do not call the wolf a sheep.
    1. +1
      16 December 2013 09: 50
      Dear amicus, information about the participation of Russians in the war against Assad is flashing. Did you personally participate there? Is it good if you and all Russians are judged by individual "elements"? Likewise, for example, for a simple teacher in Phoenix, bases and wars are just too damn good. Recently on the forum we discussed who was “for” BB P and who was “against”, and the general opinion was that we are more and more “for” our affairs and our shirt :), and not for politics. It's the same there ...
  36. +6
    16 December 2013 09: 38
    Russia needs an ideology, some kind of common goal, towards the implementation of which the whole society will be directed. Then Russia will be able to resist "Americanization" or any other negative influences. In the meantime, in our country, as in Krylov's fable, everyone pursues their own goal.
  37. +3
    16 December 2013 09: 39
    Well done kid, but I wonder who his parents and teachers are, that at the age of 19 he has such a bright head and that he cares about all this. I can partly classify myself as a generation brought up in the USSR, but my peers are also very many who are not interested in the history of their own country and not only history, but real ones, they still believe that the USA is paradise, the best and fair state in the world.
  38. +2
    16 December 2013 09: 41
    Quote: Egen
    then they are also trying to fool us, to set up the masses against something somewhere with someone led by someone

    But tell me. After what time after the end of the Second World War was developed a plan for bombing cities of the USSR?
    All the same kind and sometimes with a "heroic story" ..
    1. +3
      16 December 2013 09: 55
      Quote: amicus
      And here's another tell: How long after the end of the Second World War was the plan for bombing the cities of the USSR developed? All the same kind and sometimes with a "heroic history" ..

      Here I had in mind our own chosen elite :)
      Answering the question - through "negative" :) But this was developed by someone, not a farmer from Kansas :) I don't think that the USSR had no plans to continue the war against the allies. As soon as our intelligence learned about their plans, and even assuming logically, the question always arises - what next? And just in case, any strategist would have figured out such a plan, and the clever Stalin and Vasilevsky simply had to!
    2. 0
      16 December 2013 09: 55
      Quote: amicus
      And here's another tell: How long after the end of the Second World War was the plan for bombing the cities of the USSR developed? All the same kind and sometimes with a "heroic history" ..

      Here I had in mind our own chosen elite :)
      Answering the question - through "negative" :) But this was developed by someone, not a farmer from Kansas :) I don't think that the USSR had no plans to continue the war against the allies. As soon as our intelligence learned about their plans, and even assuming logically, the question always arises - what next? And just in case, any strategist would have figured out such a plan, and the clever Stalin and Vasilevsky simply had to!
  39. +3
    16 December 2013 09: 42
    The good news is that at least part of the youth is beginning to change consciousness !!!
  40. 128mgb
    +2
    16 December 2013 09: 52
    Don’t worry brother, everything will be the way. We just need to try to ensure that after Putin some kind of wooden or humpback does not come to power!
  41. Sasha Major
    +2
    16 December 2013 09: 54
    I will say in simple army language, WHO SAYS, THAT IS DIEING !!!!! we won’t conquer anyone !!!!!
  42. Pesnyadv
    +5
    16 December 2013 09: 54
    Among "I believe - I do not believe and what to do" the following will help to make the right choice:
    - deep and versatile knowledge. The constant desire for self-education and self-education.
    - knowledge and following the basic cultural World and National values.
    - a healthy athletic body that always contributes to a Healthy SPIRIT
    - strict selection of friends and comrades
    You have already done the last thing - you turned to virtual comrades for advice.
    Everything else is ahead.
    1. Ishtan
      +1
      16 December 2013 10: 38
      Thank you for the farewell
      1. Volkhov
        +1
        16 December 2013 11: 23
        Quote: Ishtan
        Ishtan

        It's not over yet - until the fleet drowned, the mercenaries in Syria burned down and several banks closed.
        In the spring, Koreans are unlikely to reach Shimanovsk, and then you can make a raft and swim
        http://sinteh.info/?p=2033
        collect barrels - they will come in handy; there will be a shortage of water in the Flood.
  43. +5
    16 December 2013 09: 57
    Quote: LaGlobal
    But most of my peers are typical Americans. They do not care what will happen to the country. They would try LSD and the iPhone would be new. And what is happening in the world does not bother them. And what will happen tomorrow, they also do not care.

    My children are a little older and I know the question. Unfortunately, most people in our country do not understand that for many decades we have been fighting a real psychological war. The daughter received the profession of PR manager - and for me all these Western technologies are obvious, corrupting the psyche and distracting our attention to false goals. Few people realize that this is a powerful weapon of a hidden and very dodgy enemy. Mentally ill people are made idols for all nations and promoted to leading posts. And for the masses, they move false goals. Congratulations that you have a healthy mind. Take care of it and honor true values ​​and pass it on to your children. Learn the true hidden motives of any event. Everything always strives for balance, and this means that any hostile action is opposed, such are the laws of physics.
  44. ed65b
    +4
    16 December 2013 10: 00
    fight friend, work, get married, have children and bring them up in the right spirit. Believe that you are not alone, the foam will subside, the real Russians will remain. Do not give up otherwise death.
  45. +4
    16 December 2013 10: 01
    Not everything is so hopeless ... Information storm, an abundance of negativity ... We have received an "inoculation" from Western values, have become smarter. The "awakening" process is already underway, and not only in Russia. By the nature of my work, I communicate with different people and at different levels. Now we need to format the media and there are changes here too.
  46. pahom54
    +5
    16 December 2013 10: 04
    The end is not yet ... If you (you) thought about what you wrote, that’s good. Here, at the top, many forum users gave you practical advice, follow them - study, study, improve yourself both physically and spiritually - and everything will be fine. I hope that you are far from alone in your quest ...
    Correctly above the forum users said - it all started with the upbringing of the spirit of consumerism ... However, in the history of Russia there have been different troubled times - that’s how we refer the times of Gorbachev and Yeltsin to them. Not everything is so bad, we, the pupils of the USSR, are still alive and quite energetic. You, the young generation, are also energetic, and judging by you, you are quite curious and patriotic. The combination of our thoughts and hopes is the key to avoiding this current turmoil. However, for today or tomorrow this issue will not be resolved, since young people have been too controversial over the years ... The main thing is to hope that all of today is not the end of Russia, hope that this is the beginning of the revival of a new Russia.
  47. +8
    16 December 2013 10: 07
    Then there was a state ideology. Everything was held on it. They removed this ridge and everything fell down. Now the ideology of profit and consumption is at the forefront. Therefore, now the power of money and money is power! And this is a dead end. An example is the West. And so we will rot if we don’t change anything.
  48. +10
    16 December 2013 10: 07
    Yes, in the USSR everything was different. We were taught from childhood to love and be proud of our great homeland. The school not only taught sciences, but also educated a citizen and a builder of a just society. And this involvement in everything that happened in the country cannot be expressed in words. We lived according to the slogan: "Communism is the youth of the world and it should be erected by the young" Most of my years remember this. And what is happening in the world now and with people I can not explain ... Other times, other songs.
    With which I remain hi
  49. +5
    16 December 2013 10: 10
    Quote: baltika-18
    2015 - this year will be the beginning of an era of change.

    I assume that this date may be 2018, firstly, the end of the presidential term, secondly, the next drink will end - the 2018 World Cup, nothing is planned further, therefore, financial flows will cease
  50. +6
    16 December 2013 10: 12
    For some reason, all critics compare the GDP of 2003 and the GDP of 2012, for some reason in the prices of 2008, deriving an increase of about 48%. Why they do not compare China's growth from 2003 to 2013 in RMB 2008 is not clear. Although there is an idea - after all, if you show growth in the US in 2000 dollars, then it will amount to a negligible amount and zero growth since 2006. This will break all the basics! But with regard to Russia, this seems to make an impression.
    All the far-fetched nature of their interpretations is evident in international comparisons, when they try to compare growth in rubles with growth in other countries in dollars.

    Here Rusanalit writes:
    16.05.2003/10/XNUMX Putin promised "to at least double the GDP in the next XNUMX years."
    Fact: over this period, GDP grew by 48,5%.
    While China almost tripled its GDP during this time.
    Why did Putin fail?

    That's just what Putin did. Compare China and Russia.
    We go on google charts and compare China and Russia by gross domestic product
    China 2003 1641 billion. 2011 7318 billion dollars an increase of 4,43 times
    Russia 2003 430 billion dollars. 2011 1858 billion dollars an increase of 4,32 times
    Predict data for the decade from 2013 inclusive
    I can safely say that the 2013 GDP of the Russian Federation will be 67 trillion rubles, or 2150 billion dollars.
    In 2012, China's GDP amounted to $ 8280 billion + 7-8%. About $ 8900 billion.
    That is, Russia's GDP will grow exactly 5 times in a decade, and China's 5,4 times.

    Double GDP
    Now imagine that GDP still doubled in 2008 prices.
    As Rusanalit writes, "Russia's GDP for the 1st quarter of 2012 amounted to 9 billion rubles (all in those 645,8 prices)" and was supposed to be 2008 trillion. rubles. in 13 prices. Since at current prices it amounted to 2008 trillion. rubles. Then by increasing them proportionally, we will get 13,49% -40 more. And the doubled GDP in 50 should not be 2013 trillion. current rubles, and about 67 trillion. rubles. And what is 100 trillion. This GDP at current PPP is greater than that of Japan, with almost the same population. $ 100 billion. And practically the Japanese standard of living in terms of GDP at PPP per capita.
    This is how Rusanalit expected for 10 years from Putin from the seventieth place in the world in terms of GDP at PPP to catch up with the current Japan, I don’t understand? Although the task was to catch Portugal 10 years ago (and this has long been done by the way)

    An unrealistic wishlist, Lee Kuan Yew did this for 50 years of rule.

    They want this from Putin in 10 years
    1. +4
      16 December 2013 10: 23
      Yes, in my opinion, no one wants anything from Putin anymore, he is gradually turning into a late Brezhnev, with speeches on paper from time to time interrupted by applause from the audience, just exactly like some plenary session of the Central Committee of 198., with resolutions "to expand, deepen, assist ... "And I can't compare Singapore and Russia, I respect old Lee, but the conditions are too different, much of what was done in Singapore in Russia is simply impossible.
      1. -3
        16 December 2013 10: 56
        Quote: Standard Oil
        Yes, in my opinion, no one wants anything from Putin, he is gradually turning into a late Brezhnev, with speeches on a piece of paper interrupted by applause from time to time from the audience, just exactly like some plenum of the Central Committee in 198., with the resolutions "to expand, deepen, assist ... "

        They want only one thing from Putin, so that he can take all his "honestly earned billions" and roll away from this country. And so in everything you are 100% right
        1. +5
          16 December 2013 13: 07
          Let them leave billions ...
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  52. +5
    16 December 2013 10: 19
    Dear Ishtan!
    I can’t say anything about “Americanization” because I don’t even know what it is. But for me, the cry of the soul is what is happening on Russian roads. Let them laugh at me here, but I understood one thing - in a country in which traffic rules are massively ignored, there will always be a mess. The road is an indicator of the mass culture of the population. By neglecting the rules of DD and essentially spitting on the safety of others, we not only show full-fledged rudeness towards each other, but also in fact cultivate the growth of disorder in society stop
    1. +5
      16 December 2013 12: 07
      Quote: Prometey
      The road is an indicator of the mass culture of the population. By neglecting the rules of DD and essentially spitting on the safety of others, we not only show full-fledged rudeness towards each other, but also in fact cultivate the growth of disorder in society

      Hmm, I agree though hi
      A small note about American roads, even though you haven’t been there :) In New York, for example, the traffic jams are absolutely jam-packed, you can’t even get through them. And the streets there are often 2-3 cars in total. But when a car with a siren is driving - no matter the emergency police or fire - I was always amazed how in an instant literally everyone disperses and allows passage where even a motorcycle could not pass!
      Another example, I already wrote once: I was on a lake in the desert near Phoenix, there were a lot of vacationers. The child became ill. I didn’t detect it, but a helicopter quickly arrived on a cable, picked it up and took me to the hospital.
      Needless to say, in such cases we have...
      Or another example from China. I’m driving with an acquaintance in Beijing in his generally quite old jeep, slowly, suddenly he leans to the right once and lets a car pass from behind. I don’t understand, the car is like a car, something like a Chinese Avensis, I ask - what are you doing? He answers: I saw that a car was catching up from behind, I looked at the military license plates on it, we were in no hurry, but what if he needed to go somewhere for his work, and I missed it.
      This is such respect for power and the state...
      1. +4
        16 December 2013 12: 41
        Dear Eugene!
        Quote: Egen
        This is such respect for power and the state...

        This may be an indicator of respect for the authorities and the state, but why is there no such respect on their part for ordinary citizens? (I'm talking about our country). Why does someone who has a more expensive car or a parliamentary seat consider himself superior to everyone else on the road?
        All this comes from our authorities. With their full-fledged rudeness and rednecks, they set an example for the whole society.
        1. +1
          16 December 2013 19: 19
          Quote: Prometey
          Why does someone who has a more expensive car or a parliamentary seat consider himself superior to everyone else on the road?

          Because ordinary drivers, in situations where an arrogant bureaucrat or his driver beat up another ordinary driver, instead of filming everything that happens on camera, and even worse, simply, indifferently watching from the side, would have jointly blocked these boors on the road with their cars, but they would knock on the turnip, then, next time, these “road kings” would think whether it is worth doing such things.
    2. 0
      16 December 2013 12: 07
      Quote: Prometey
      The road is an indicator of the mass culture of the population. By neglecting the rules of DD and essentially spitting on the safety of others, we not only show full-fledged rudeness towards each other, but also in fact cultivate the growth of disorder in society

      Hmm, I agree though hi
      A small note about American roads, even though you haven’t been there :) In New York, for example, the traffic jams are absolutely jam-packed, you can’t even get through them. And the streets there are often 2-3 cars in total. But when a car with a siren is driving - no matter the emergency police or fire - I was always amazed how in an instant literally everyone disperses and allows passage where even a motorcycle could not pass!
      Another example, I already wrote once: I was on a lake in the desert near Phoenix, there were a lot of vacationers. The child became ill. I didn’t detect it, but a helicopter quickly arrived on a cable, picked it up and took me to the hospital.
      Needless to say, in such cases we have...
      Or another example from China. I’m driving with an acquaintance in Beijing in his generally quite old jeep, slowly, suddenly he leans to the right once and lets a car pass from behind. I don’t understand, the car is like a car, something like a Chinese Avensis, I ask - what are you doing? He answers: I saw that a car was catching up from behind, I looked at the military license plates on it, we were in no hurry, but what if he needed to go somewhere for his work, and I missed it.
      This is such respect for power and the state...
  53. +7
    16 December 2013 10: 20
    You shouldn't be completely killed, young man. There was no period in Russia (with the exception of rare cases, the last one, I think - 60-early 70 years) when it didn’t seem like, “just a little more, and that’s ALL!!!”
    I remember my grandfather, a front-line soldier, told my father that “they are nothing!”, my father (who didn’t fight, didn’t have to, but a communist to the core) told me (who fought) that we guys of the 60-70s don’t know life...
    Everything changes as it would without it. But you are apparently out of luck...I look at my friends sons...they will move mountains and fight no worse than their grandfather!
  54. MOPKOBKA2000
    +2
    16 December 2013 10: 21
    you're getting old, my friend, you're getting old))
  55. +3
    16 December 2013 10: 22
    It is good that a young man looks within himself and at his generation through the surrounding reality. This is the eternal question of fathers and sons.
    But:
    "“Our youth loves luxury, they are poorly educated, they mock their superiors and have no respect for the elderly. Our current children have become tyrants; they do not stand up when an elderly person enters the room; they contradict their parents. Simply put, they are very bad. »
    - Socrates, ok. 380 BC e.
  56. +2
    16 December 2013 10: 26
    One thing appears in my head - soon, soon the end

    Dejection is a sin. Cheer up! Everything will be fine with us! Just don't give up. I don’t know about Europe, they choose their own path there, but I think that in the end they will crawl to us.
  57. avg
    +8
    16 December 2013 10: 30
    Just read the history of Russia (by normal authors) and you will understand that everything is not so bad at all, that it happened much worse.
    Change your environment, get out of the environment of habitual communication and you yourself will be surprised at the diversity that is around you. Perhaps you should consult a psychologist, your age is dangerous in precisely such moments. Finally, reach out to your parents or other authority figures.
    You are already a great fellow if you decided to talk about your worries.
    And we will return to socialism, I hope at a different, higher and more honest level than in Soviet times. wink
    Best regards, A.V.G.
  58. +4
    16 December 2013 10: 31
    In order to prevent the worst-case scenario, I suggest teaching your children what is good and what is bad by personal example. For example, he is more relaxed about luxury goods, focusing on functionality and reliability rather than on the brand. Teach young people to read the right books and admire the right actions of people! In my opinion, things have gotten a little better even on central television. Along with tolerants and glamorous scum, they also show people of labor, hero-defenders, there is material about toilers-masters, warriors, etc. I can compare it with the nineties... It was really bad then: advertising the slogan “I want to do nothing and a lot Babala to raise even when killing her neighbor." You can’t completely get rid of the universal human love for “freebies,” but things have gotten better. It’s already noticeable a little... But never mind - our children will have a harder life than in the 90s and 2000s. The number of people on Earth is increasing, but energy and food are not increasing. Here you go!
  59. wanderer_032
    +6
    16 December 2013 10: 31
    Spit on the advertising of consumerism, live your life.
    Improve your survival skills and study warfare to the best of your ability, in general, be ready to protect your home and your loved ones.
    Those who succumbed to the imposed way of life are wretched, perhaps they will realize (when it comes) that they need to live differently, but it may be too late. To each his own.
    While there are people in Mother Russia who ask themselves the question - why am I living? Russia cannot be broken, it will stand against all odds.
    Look around. There are so many normal people around. At least even on this forum. wink
  60. +1
    16 December 2013 10: 31
    But most of my peers are typical Americans. They do not care what will happen to the country. They would try LSD and the iPhone would be new. And what is happening in the world does not bother them. And what will happen tomorrow, they also do not care.

    I completely agree. Sometimes you look at your peers and see Americans.
  61. akmns74
    +2
    16 December 2013 10: 43
    don't worry son, let's break through
  62. +8
    16 December 2013 10: 48
    The permissiveness that poured into our society after the “democratic reforms” of the early 90s absorbed mainly the younger generation of our country. The Western fashion for consumerism and general indifference has captured the youth. The main idea that work should be the source of a young man’s normal existence was forgotten. Therefore, the country was overwhelmed by a wave of charlatans, scammers, and bandits. TRud became unpopular and despised by the “advanced” youth. It's gotten to the point where we can't find a competent worker. to assemble a rocket.Youth humor has turned into vulgarity and utter stupidity. What can we talk about if on the state channel, to the laughter of the audience, there is a story about how skillfully they are mowed down by the army. I agree with the author. It can't go on like this for long. And the question may exist about the life of our state.
    1. +6
      16 December 2013 11: 25
      I agree with you on everything except
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      It's gotten to the point where we can't find a competent worker. to assemble a rocket
      . There are still a lot of smart workers. Not everyone has died out in 20 years. The point is, are they needed? It’s easier to hire cheap migrant workers. And no one needs our Russian men with their Russian ingenuity and golden hands. And good missiles are no longer needed. Any global project turns into another cut of dough. That's what's scary. This is what could completely destroy the country. And this state of affairs must be eradicated first and as quickly as possible.
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  64. +3
    16 December 2013 10: 54
    If you cannot change your circumstances, change your attitude towards them.
    One wise man told Julius Caesar before the decisive battle: “If you consider your situation to be good, prepare for the worst; if it is bad, expect improvements.”
    1. +2
      16 December 2013 10: 59
      Quote: Metlik
      One wise man told Julius Caesar before the decisive battle: “If you consider your situation to be good, prepare for the worst; if it is bad, expect improvements.”

      I think my financial situation is bad, but there is no improvement what
  65. +2
    16 December 2013 11: 03
    Everything will be fine, only the Vasisuali Lokhankins will survive from the country. These are the ones who yell all the time, everything is gone.
  66. +3
    16 December 2013 11: 05
    Quote: Author Site user Ishtan
    One thing appears in my head - soon, soon the end

  67. Pesnyadv
    +1
    16 December 2013 11: 07
    Quote: 1c-inform-city
    Everything will be fine, only the Vasisuali Lokhankins will survive from the country. These are the ones who yell all the time, everything is gone.


    And I remember the hero played by Andrei Mironov shouted all the time in “The Diamond Arm”...
    :)))
    1. +1
      16 December 2013 17: 42
      I didn't mean a quote from the movie. This implied the lifestyle and thoughts of this character Ilf and Petrov.
  68. Transbaikal
    +8
    16 December 2013 11: 07
    Historical reality, or maybe a tale.
    On the eve of 1917, a butler flew into one of the Russian nobles shouting: “Your Excellency, everything is perishing, the revolution! Russia is on the edge of the abyss.” His Excellency poured himself a glass of vodka, drank it and answered: “Darling, Russia is always on the edge of the abyss, but note that it never falls!”
  69. 0
    16 December 2013 11: 09
    yes, “scale” is all (spermotoxicosis characteristic of youth) - and it has always existed in all years, in the USSR even now, and not only in the USSR (everywhere), the difference between generations (and, accordingly, values) was and will be. “Don’t slander our youth, they are our hope and stronghold (Semenych)..Labor, education, self-education - the desire to be a man, the desire to support your family (and through this, strengthen the Motherland Russia) is the right way. PS - to grumble at our youth - property “under a glass on a bench” (I’m a sinner myself))) - don’t pay attention to it
  70. true love
    +5
    16 December 2013 11: 11
    You wrote that this is a cry from the heart. But soul and body are not the same thing. We are all afraid of something, especially if it concerns our body... lack of food, shelter, warmth, the possibility of getting sick, injury... we are also very afraid of mental irritants, when we are told that you are wrong and your whole life - this is complete nonsense... but how to cope with these fears?! Everyone decides differently. Some drink “bitter” to “forget”, others accumulate “material wealth”, others seek power... This has always been the case. At all times, but there were others who tried to understand the meaning of life - what is it? Everything material will sooner or later collapse, including our body, but we don’t want this, do we?! Every day we see that people are dying and being killed, but it seems to us that this will not happen to us... Naivety?! No, lack of knowledge, that's all. But what kind of knowledge? Mathematics, biology, chemistry do not help us understand how to live. What then? Where is the answer to our questions, to our fears?... We will all leave the body someday, this is the truth. It's hard to argue with that. Then what is there to live for? For a two-, three-, four-room apartment, which after the death of the owner will go to relatives who will begin to divide it and in the end will quarrel to pieces? To advance your career? But in an instant this career turns into nothing, as soon as the person who achieves “suddenly” understands the futility of this position. Then maybe the government gives everyone complete peace of mind and faith that “I have achieved everything I wanted and now I can enjoy my position.” Look what is happening in the modern world, those in power are also dying, just like ordinary people. And they are thrown off Olympus even faster by others who think that they are “more worthy.”
    Is everything really so hopeless? No. At all times there have been great souls who proved with their lives that living for the sake of others is the true goal of man. Who do generations remember, who remains an undisputed hero in the memory of posterity? The one who, without sparing his belly, defended ordinary people, the one who thought about others and turned his life into a battlefield, even if this person was not a warrior. And there are many such people - scientists, writers, poets, engineers, doctors, teachers..., lawyers, monks... And it doesn’t really matter what specialty a person had, who gave and is giving his life for others. We remember them all. We are proud of them. We look up to them.
    But how did they understand what was important in life? How were they able to overcome their fear? Before death, before illness, poverty, obscurity? What, with the pulsating current of life, did not allow me to forget that I was just another incarnation of him or her?!
    To love means to give everything you have to another, without the slightest urge to receive something in return. Unselfishly. Always.
    Always seek knowledge, only it will help you figure out what to live for.
  71. +4
    16 December 2013 11: 15
    >>
    In the world there is an unprecedented struggle between Good and Evil, a struggle on “all fronts”, affecting all aspects of every person’s life, and Evil ADVANCES, using all the most modern media and sophisticated new technologies for influencing human psychology, seeking a revision in principle of such fundamental concepts , how what is good and what is bad, developed by humanity throughout the history of its existence! We can say that Western civilization has already fallen under the onslaught of Evil: it has already captured state institutions there, turning them into a breeding ground for Evil, which now seek to spread it (not without success) to the whole world. And one of the last BASTIONS of Good on earth still remains the Great Russian civilization with its age-old cultural and moral values ​​based on the concept of Good! And it is Russia today that is “on the front line” under the unprecedented pressure of Evil, which we are seeing around us and we have no other way out to survive in the world but to unite and RESIST with all our might this infection of Evil that is penetrating everywhere!
  72. +6
    16 December 2013 11: 15
    I hope the comments that you, the author, have read have convinced you that not all is lost yet, there are many like you, and Russia will rise from its knees, be reborn like the Phoenix, and it was correctly written in the comments “fuck them all in the face”
  73. +2
    16 December 2013 11: 17
    Quote: A.YARY

    Honor your parents, protect the weak, fear your conscience, and the USSR will return.

    Great words! Simply wonderful.
  74. +4
    16 December 2013 11: 19
    I think this will continue for a long time, humanity, in principle, has greatly degraded over two decades, and in our country, due to the complete absence of a national youth policy and ideology, with the collapse of the old School of Education + the dirty stream gushing from the screens of “liberal” TV, the result was predictable ...and the BEER youth of the 90s now have charming youngsters, with empty eyes and a complete lack of moral principles...ugh...
  75. Petrovich 0881
    +2
    16 December 2013 11: 23
    if there are thinking young people, it means not everything is bad... but they think because they were raised by decent parents.
  76. +1
    16 December 2013 11: 24
    Everything in life repeats itself, everything has already happened. We're alive!
    Read about the 131st Maikop brigade, the capture of Grozny, about the 6th company - young guys in difficult times and HEROES!
  77. +3
    16 December 2013 11: 30
    For some reason, we are so smart, we sit and give advice to Ishtan, like don’t believe, don’t be afraid, don’t ask. And where were we (who saw that time) when the country was broken, robbed and taken to pieces? Why didn't they stop? What prevented us from standing up for our Motherland? Someone will say that we could not do anything, the president and the ruling elite are to blame for everything. Could it be that some innovator will come to power again in 2018 and ruin this (my dearly beloved) country? Shall we swallow it silently again? It's easy to give advice, hard to do.
    1. +4
      16 December 2013 12: 50
      Quote: SRC P-15
      For some reason, we are so smart, we sit and give advice to Ishtan, like don’t believe, don’t be afraid, don’t ask. And where were we (who saw that time) when the country was broken, robbed and taken to pieces? Why didn't they stop? What prevented us from standing up for our Motherland? Someone will say that we could not do anything, the president and the ruling elite are to blame for everything. Could it be that some innovator will come to power again in 2018 and ruin this (my dearly beloved) country? Shall we swallow it silently again? It's easy to give advice, hard to do.
      hi buddy! We lived quietly and steadily for too long, and when we decided to abolish Article 6, no one even thought what would follow! no one was prepared for such an instant collapse! the people simply decided that without the boring CPSU, they would heal wonderfully, and when the balls were torn and sobered up from freedom, it was already too late...
      1. +3
        16 December 2013 18: 13
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        buddy! We lived quietly and steadily for too long, and when we decided to abolish Article 6, no one even thought what would follow! no one was prepared for such an instant collapse! the people simply decided that without the boring CPSU, they would heal wonderfully, and when the balls were torn and sobered up from freedom, it was already too late...

        hi That’s right, we’re here in the provinces, when the mess started, we thought it was the Muscovites who were freaking out. They’ll make a fuss and calm down, especially since in other cities it was time-consuming. So we waited on our ass. And in general, it’s very difficult to shake up our people. We’re always smart backdating.
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  78. +6
    16 December 2013 11: 30
    Is the end soon?
    Much depends on ourselves.
    Firstly, this is education. From childhood, a boy must know that he is a defender, and in order to become an adult man, he must learn to defend himself, his point of view, his loved ones, the weak, his country. Such guys acquire immunity against the corrupting ideology of glamor, and girls without such guys do not need this glamor for nothing either.
    Secondly, this is state ideology: the presence of an idea and a high goal. This is what distinguishes our country in the world much more than state borders and color on the world map. Without this, “the fish look for where it’s deeper, and the man” looks for where the sweetest cookies are distributed, i.e. itself turns into a kind of “fish” that can be easily directed in any direction by adding food in the right place.
    Thirdly, this is discipline. On the one hand, people often remember Stalin, since he maintained discipline primarily at the very top, which gave the people a basis to believe in the idea and accept the common goal as their own, to understand that this is not a “noodle on the ears”, as it was already under Brezhnev , when it was already clear to many ordinary people that “servants of the people” (as party and government officials at various levels were called) for the most part were “building communism” for themselves personally, and they were spreading this communist noodles to the rest of the people. On the other hand, discipline is acquired by every person and helps to cultivate in him such a quality as self-discipline, i.e., the ability to set goals for oneself and move towards their implementation, overcoming one’s own laziness, weakness and external obstacles, to fulfill one’s duty. If we have all three elements, then this is not the end, but only the beginning.
  79. +4
    16 December 2013 11: 35
    Explain to me, generation of the USSR, when did people become so indifferent? Explain... For, according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. Exactly light. They weren't afraid. We weren't afraid of tomorrow. They were not afraid of the enemy. They knew everything would be fine. But I personally don’t have such confidence in the future.
    I, of course, am probably not exactly the generation of the USSR, because... I’m only 31 years old, but I was a little fascinated by those times and I also think that on the whole the USSR was a bright country. Well, on topic: they weren’t afraid and don’t be afraid. Not Russian or what? If you doubt the future - remember your ancestors, from Ancient Rus' to the Great Patriotic War, who went through a lot of trials and tribulations, wars, unrest, revolutions and other things - but the country is alive and people live.
    And explain to me, stupid and unreasonable, when did it become fashionable for the army to “mow”??? Why do they now say to someone who has served not “well done”, but “”? When did we allow all this to happen? And most importantly - why???
    Here, probably, the scarier generation will explain, because... This is also a mystery to me. I was brought up (and self-educated :)) on Soviet films and books, where military exploits in general, everything related to weapons and war, were presented as a matter of course for a normal man. Later, books from the “Battletech” series and the same “Starship Troopers” by Heinlein contributed to the “right direction” of education. In general, everything is like in Vysotsky’s song - “...it means you read the right books as a child...”. Actually, what I mean is that there is no need to be afraid and look back at the idiots of your peers who are drug addicts. Develop yourself, play sports, read more different literature, take an interest in the world around you and look confidently towards the horizon good
    Н
    I don’t know about you, but for me, looking at everything that is happening in the world, one thing appears in my head - soon, soon the end. What it will be like - the second coming of Christ or atomic hell - I don’t know. Maybe I'm wrong. More precisely, not so - I sincerely want to be wrong in this opinion. But I'm really scared of a possible Tomorrow.
    Well, February 22nd seems to be Ragnarok on schedule, according to the British sages who took it upon themselves to interpret the Norman sagas laughing
    the end is not the end, nuclear hell... In the wonderful cartoon “Childhood of Ratibor”, the old man, when asked by the boy “why are we sowing, what if the Khazars come and everything is lost?”, answered: “the Khazars will come or not, but you and this pasha. You have to believe in the best - wait for life..."So don't worry, comrade. It’s all the same, you can’t have two deaths, but you can’t avoid one. With this saying, many of our ancestors accomplished great deeds both in military affairs and in the peaceful field.
    It turned out somehow pretentious, but from the heart soldier
  80. +3
    16 December 2013 11: 40
    Only when the state takes care of the ordinary person - only then will a national idea appear and the revival of Russia will begin!
  81. +1
    16 December 2013 11: 50
    The author is subconsciously afraid, afraid of uncertainty, the uncertainty of the future in particular and the admissibility of what is happening now, in general, the “damned” questions - “what to do?” and “who is to blame?”, and the hope for a miracle lives in him, that someone will give an answer that explains everything and everyone, there may be answers, but will they also dispel his doubts? Look, the author, for the answer in yourself, ask yourself what you think needs to be done so that living conditions in the country begin to meet your aspirations, this is a big task
  82. +1
    16 December 2013 11: 56
    The main thing is not to support hysteria, the information background that is created by the current media. To be honest, at one time we gave in or thought that everything would be resolved somewhere. At the personal level, a person always reacts at the first moment in accordance with the emotions that are under pressure, especially in conditions of time shortage (hysteria). Understanding comes later. Society reacts in the same way, since it consists of individuals, but more inertly. The main thing is that during this time the correct settings are not lost, and some vaccination has already been received. Therefore, your age inspires hope among older comrades. And the consumer society is a race for a carrot tied in front of your nose.
  83. +1
    16 December 2013 12: 05
    as long as you think with your head and not with advertising, everything will be fine for you and you will do everything according to your conscience and with your soul you will be in chocolate and you won’t let the country slide, our ancestors survived the war and won, so we are worse or something angry
  84. acute
    +7
    16 December 2013 12: 09
    Over the past twenty years, people have been brainwashed. They are told that you are the creator of your own happiness, earn money and you will be happy. They even supposedly provided everyone with equal conditions before the start (vouchers). But a hard worker is one thing, and a plant director, a department head in a regional committee, or just a relative is another. Someone flew up, someone stayed below. But people were not taught that to get good income you need to work hard. No, the wealth of the country was received not by those who are worthy, but by those who are closer to power or bandits. What about the young and healthy guys? And they were instilled with the “jerk” theory. Steal. kill, deceive and you instantly become the master of life. Why work, all you need is one “jump” and you are set for life. No need for hard work one push. But what about those who cannot live like this? This is the second class of people. There is no program or unifying idea in the state; everything has been replaced by one goal, the “Golden Calf.” Look how citizens have become officials. You don’t have to be a businessman, the most important person in the country is a bureaucrat. People (most and best) have no future. those who can flee the country, but where can the workers and peasants go? They continue to be robbed. There is a growing sense of injustice among people. The authorities are trying to make people drunk (drunk people are easier to control) Some kind of extortionate pensions for which you have to work for 7 years, but we don’t live that long. And the bureaucrats live in the warmth, eat caviar. Don’t you remember that all this has already happened and how it ended? Now Putin is trying to butter up this whole structure. Strengthens the army and police (so that they have someone to rely on). They talk about bribe-takers, about money laundering, about corruption, but this is the outer polish, and underneath it.... No one cares about ordinary citizens. Not everything has been stolen yet, there is no time yet
    1. +2
      16 December 2013 13: 08
      Quote: akut
      Now Putin is trying to butter up this whole structure. Strengthens the army and police (so that they have someone to rely on).

      Or maybe it’s not worth pushing everything so hard. It is very difficult for each individual person to get rid of his vices, and when the system is sick with this, then it is a hundred times more difficult. There is not only a strengthening of the army, navy, and law enforcement agencies, but also very painstaking work to cleanse them of all indifferent and thieving rabble, and then, when there is a complete cleansing, including moral, of the people serving and working in these structures, then then there will be someone to rely on in the fight against the “kings” in power, with their indifference and thieves’ lawlessness. Everything is in our heads. The Russian people are endowed with patience, mercy, understanding and respect. All these qualities, for 20 years and even more, have been trying to distort and present them as a complex of inferiority and wretchedness, but time, thank God, everything began to be put in its place, and now it has become obvious that all the values ​​​​that we tried and are trying to to impose Western “teachers” is nothing more than perversity and moral ugliness, covered with a high-tech wrapper.
      1. acute
        +4
        16 December 2013 14: 45
        Yes, I didn’t write about the fact that something good will happen someday, but about the fact that this government did not organize a purge and check of its ranks, but is simply trying to grease the facade. and not to overhaul a building that is falling apart. Try to prove the opposite. All these trials of embezzlers are like children's firecrackers, nothing but zilch. one empty shock of air. and you know that many officials, knowing in advance that a short prison sentence awaits them, deliberately do this (theft and breaking the law). they are in the zone with money, they feel like human beings, and after serving time, life completely improves. but conversations............ People do not feel moral shame when they put their hand in the government's pocket. They are not ashamed, they are “heroes” because they managed to steal. This is modern morality. But I’m not saying that everyone is like that, but before, such people weren’t allowed close to power, but now they say “there’s no one to choose from,” they need to be re-educated. Don’t get rid of them, but re-educate them (shining example Serdyukov). What are they singing to us - there are no honest people in Russia
        1. +1
          16 December 2013 18: 56
          Quote: akut
          Yes, I didn’t write about the fact that something good will happen someday, but about the fact that this government did not organize a purge and check of its ranks, but is simply trying to grease the facade. and not to overhaul a building that is falling apart. Try to prove otherwise

          Here, in principle, there is nothing to prove, it is clear that there are “Cossack women” in the government, very influential ones at that, lobbying for the interests of the West, and if you go into open confrontation with them, then simply a fighter against Western “democracy”, let’s say, will simply be removed physically, that’s why such things require painstaking work. Why do they remove authoritative, spiritual fathers, but leave all kinds of pseudo-clergy intact? I understand you perfectly, and I personally want Taburetkina and Vasilyeva and others like them to be closed for 20 years , without any investigation and with confiscation, only this will no longer scare them, but destabilization in the country can easily result. You need this, I don’t. And there is no need for words about a cowardly leader, because he is just not afraid.
          1. acute
            0
            17 December 2013 10: 58
            again not about that. I wasn't talking about cowardly leaders. I don't think Putin is cowardly. I write about the fact that the administrative layer is rotten and everyone is trying to earn money as best they can. Or maybe they are very primitive, putting their hands into the pocket of the state and they won’t get anything for it. The more they steal, the less responsibility. The teacher is tried for a bribe (unproven, fabricated, very dubious) of 400000 rubles and given 8 years. These stole billions, so what?
  85. +4
    16 December 2013 12: 17
    ... and when such thoughts come to me (as in the article), I immediately go to this site. And here I see that there are real men (and women, of course)) left in Russia), real patriots, for whom conscience, honor, and love for the Motherland are not empty words. And then I understand that in any case we will break through! And my soul becomes calmer...
  86. +3
    16 December 2013 12: 18
    Is the end soon?

    ...not the end son, this is just the beginning...

    And more:
    We know that now lies on the scales
    And what is happening now.
    An hour of courage struck on our watch,
    And courage will not leave us.
    Do not be afraid to lie under the bullets of the dead,
    Do not bitterly remain homeless, -
    And we will save you, Russian speech,
    Great Russian word.
    Free and clean you carry,
    And we will give our grandsons, and we will save them from captivity
    Forever!

    Anna Akhmatova, 1942...
  87. +4
    16 December 2013 12: 27
    Indeed, in the USSR there was faith in the future. The country was truly bright. But the Anglo-Saxons constantly tried to poison her life. Unfortunately they succeeded in the end. In the USSR, all people lived very friendly. They will always help each other in any situation and try to understand. All people were like brothers. And now even some brothers are not brothers. They are ready to strangle anyone and sell anyone for money. I am happy that I had the opportunity to live a little in such a country. And I really regret that she is no longer there. The collapse of the USSR is a huge tragedy for its people, I’m sure even for all of humanity (except for the Anglo-Saxons, of course).
  88. Megre
    +10
    16 December 2013 12: 39
    We ourselves, the Slavs, are to blame. They turned each other into civilians, betrayed their ancestors, etc. and so on. That's why THEY rule us. As soon as we become Slavs again, who created our Motherland after Khan. We must unite, love each other and resist THEM....... Russian help Russian.
  89. Christian
    0
    16 December 2013 12: 47
    Christians are not afraid of death! Our faith prepares us for the transition to eternal heavenly life. And the fact that the world is heading towards the reign of the Antichrist and the end of times is written in the Bible! So...
    1. +2
      16 December 2013 16: 08
      Those who are NOT AFRAID usually remain silent...
  90. igorek45
    +5
    16 December 2013 12: 50
    Dear auto article..! I am very pleased to know that the current generation of 19 year olds still has people who can still THINK and reason sensibly and logically.. As for your questions, I will try to answer them:

    Quote: Jamal
    Explain to me, the generation of the USSR, when people became so indifferent?

    People son. they became like that when they came to power in the USSR in this country that your mom and dad told you about, etc. Gorbachev came to power with his idea of ​​perestroika and general glasnost, which essentially turned into a banal denunciation of all those achievements of our once common and Great country.. And the inculcation of the cult of money and Western moral values.. And that is why our Great country fell apart and into its the territory began to flourish, all those American values ​​that you mention in your article.. And it was after this that young people who served in the army began to be treated exactly as you write, to say not well done, but .. believe me.. I am a person who grew up and was formed as a person in The USSR is extremely unpleasant and offensive for everything that these liberals and democrats did to our country..
    1. +4
      16 December 2013 14: 21
      Quote: igorek45
      People son. they became like that when they came to power in the USSR in this country that your mom and dad told you about, etc. Gorbachev came to power

      We need to take it much earlier. The fish rots from the head. When, at the 20th Congress of the CPSU, Khrushchev shifted all the negativity to Stalin, and no one in the hall whistled or shouted “You, bald person in the hall, what were you doing at that time?!”, but everyone (maybe almost everyone) clapped , one could already call the head indifferent. At the bottom, the workers were not yet afraid to openly criticize their superiors, but this indifference gradually, like metastases, affected the rest of the body, which by the time of Gorbachev had almost lost the ability to resist. There were very few people like General Makashov, who walked in the column of arrested defenders of the “White House” with an open gaze and his head held high.
      1. +4
        16 December 2013 16: 19
        Everything is so, only before the congress Khrushchev thoroughly cleaned the archives (then everyone who came to power did this). But there was a document where, in response to Khrushchev’s written request to I.V. Stalin to tighten measures to combat the enemies of the people, Stalin wrote in red pencil - Calm down. ak!
  91. standby
    +4
    16 December 2013 12: 51
    Explain to me, generation of the USSR, when did people become so indifferent? Explain... For, according to the stories of my parents, the USSR was a bright country. Exactly light. They weren't afraid. We weren't afraid of tomorrow.


    When the economy suddenly collapsed in this large and strong country, then politicians tore this country apart, leaving people alone with their problems (months of delays in the payment of wages, unemployment, empty shelves), and the belief that the state cares about its citizens also collapsed. The desire for survival (personal and children) on a purely everyday level among many citizens has transformed or completely erased the moral values ​​that have been inherent in the Russian people for centuries (and this is our greatest loss). It was difficult to take the path of wild capitalism and maintain high moral standards. Predatory privatization, treacherous presidents (Gorbachev, Yeltsin), the default of 1998 so undermined citizens' trust in the state that, unfortunately, for many it became “fashionable” to snatch from it, justifying the return of what was taken away, to eat their neighbor, etc. d. This is all immoral... This led to the emergence of inherently immoral elites. Those who were previously considered speculators or bandits have become entrepreneurs and politicians. And in a country where profit is considered the main value and there is no idea uniting citizens, what happened to your generation, young man, happens..., with the indifference of the authorities and the instillation of consumer values ​​by the media using American money. And this is happening not only here, the same problems are happening in Europe. We see how easily they replace values ​​by calling white black, for the sake of their own profit... So here's a sneak peek! It’s good that you’re thinking about this, it means your parents raised you right! I would really like to wish us to live in a state that its citizens would be proud of, and that would reciprocate their feelings! Luckily for the country, there are many people who not only think about this, but also do it! If you are a citizen of your country and instill your citizenship in your children, it will be a good thing! LET'S BREAK THROUGH! laughing
  92. +3
    16 December 2013 12: 55
    But I do not understand the distortion of religion for terrorism.
    People are driven by an idea. Because of it, they go to their death. Ideas can also be false. The whole question is who is behind the terrorists and what are their goals.
    Read the protocols of the Seon sages. Much will become clear to you.

    What's going on in our heads? The dominance of “American culture”, which in the majority is such a ****mo. But, thank God, I was raised in such a way that now I am more or less resistant to her. But most of my peers are typical Americans. They don't care what happens to the country

    Russia lost its independence in the early 90s. Everything else is the result of enemy propaganda.
  93. Andronic
    +6
    16 December 2013 12: 55
    What is going on with the world? Where are we going?


    There are two types of people. Some run next to this world and shout: “Where is this world going?” Others rock this world. The choice is yours.

    What's going on in our heads? The dominance of “American culture”, which in the majority is such a ****mo. But, thank God, I was raised in such a way that now I am more or less resistant to her.


    It is very “wise” to humiliate the culture of an entire country and many peoples, categorically rejecting it as a species. They have a lot of traditions that they protect. Among Russians, traditions are now not held in high esteem.

    But most of my peers are typical Americans. They do not care what will happen to the country. They would try LSD and the iPhone would be new. And what is happening in the world does not bother them. And what will happen tomorrow, they also do not care.


    I have to disappoint you, but your own shirt is closer to your body and will always be so. I really don’t care that there is a war going on in Syria, it’s a pity, but that’s their problem. They don't solve my problems, I don't solve them, everything is fair.

    The USSR was a bright country. Exactly light. They weren't afraid. We weren't afraid of tomorrow. They were not afraid of the enemy. They knew everything would be fine. But I personally don’t have such confidence in the future.


    Fear generally greatly limits a person's capabilities. People are always afraid, only crazy people are not afraid, or those who are tired are afraid. Good advice for you, differentiate between fear and danger. Step over simple fear, but when there is danger, be careful. Once you get back on your feet, fear will go away, anxiety will come, with experience comes confidence, with wisdom comes peace.

    I won't answer the rest. All comes with experience.
  94. Lukich
    +3
    16 December 2013 13: 03
    ...don’t be afraid Ishtan - you will understand that the time has come - and this will be ...our last and decisive...
    1. +1
      16 December 2013 16: 06
      Quote: Lukich
      ...don’t be afraid Ishtan - you will understand that the time has come - and this will be ...our last and decisive...

      I would like to go into this “last and decisive” battle shoulder to shoulder, one is not a warrior alone in the field!
  95. +1
    16 December 2013 13: 12
    Such thoughts come from idleness. No goal, no cause. It so happened, I traveled around the country (USSR) and beyond, Father Officer. They lived in the wilderness, lived in large cities. Everywhere there are different people, different goals. In one place, the main hobby of young people is the body (sports), in another - clothes, in a third - abstruse conversations on the topic of specialization in OKOLOVSYACHE science, on the outskirts, even then - everyday nationalism. I can’t judge what kind of environment you grew up in, but I can give you some advice: find a goal for yourself. Moreover, judging by the article, the head is in place and working.
    1. +5
      16 December 2013 13: 44
      Such thoughts are not from idleness but from contemplation of the surrounding reality, I know from myself, because by the will of fate, although I belong to the third post-war generation, all my peers and friends belong to the fourth, all in their twenties. So everything that Ishtan wrote about really exists and is very widespread. Sometimes you come across such specimens, and it takes one’s breath away! As a rule, the percentage of such extra nihilists is especially high among the children of very wealthy people, for whom their parents buy cars every year and send them abroad. And here you involuntarily remember Marx (and don’t be surprised, some young people read the “classics”; at least for me, Marx is worthy of this title) that economics is primary, and everything else is secondary. And everything falls into place, because... the well-fed does not understand the hungry + to this is added the fact that the parents, in pursuit of a big ruble, did not have time to give such people..... something very important, very significant, without which even an attempt to reason with such sapiens cannot be called anything else , akin to arguing with a blind man about the color of the rainbow.

      And then resentment arises: why are you and your friends - smart, good guys - worse than THEM? Just because your parents don’t work in the city administration or the city police department? Why should they not only live better than you - it still depends on themselves, but, for example, occupy leadership positions while having an IQ at the level of the bedside table. What right do these degenerates have to determine what is good or bad for me and shouldn’t ordinary people also pay for the fact that they simply know how to breathe?
      Many will say that I am exaggerating, or even exaggerating, trying to fit everyone into the same brush, but anyone who has ever been in the regional/territorial/republican administrations will confirm that I am right and that it is not for nothing that people who eat their bread are not there so much.
  96. +9
    16 December 2013 13: 59
    "We survived where the Mammoths died out"!...)

    The diary of a German soldier who fought at Stalingrad, was captured, and in 1953, healthy and happy, returned home. Then his diary was published in West Germany (no reference to the original source was found). He's writing:
    “October 1st. Our assault battalion reached the Volga. More precisely, there are still 500 meters to the Volga. Tomorrow we will be on the other side and the war will be over.”
    “October 3. Very strong fire resistance, we can’t overcome these 500 meters. We are standing on the border of a grain elevator. "
    “October 6th. Damn elevator. It is impossible to approach him. Our losses exceeded 30%. ”
    “October 10th. Where do these Russians come from? "The elevator is no longer there, but every time we get close to it, fire comes from under the ground."
    “October 15th. Hooray, we overcame the elevator. From our battalion there were 100 people. "
    So what is next:
    “It turned out that the elevator was defended by 18 Russians, we found 18 corpses.”
    And they were stormed by a battalion (350-700 people) for two weeks...
    1. typhoon7
      +4
      16 December 2013 16: 39
      That's 500 meters for you. Hundreds stumble over the character of two dozen. That's why we won.
      1. Alex toll
        0
        17 December 2013 15: 33
        Powerfully said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Handsome! And you are the end of everything))))) No misfortune will defeat the Slavs, not a bayonet, nor a knife, nor a foreign disease!
  97. +2
    16 December 2013 14: 00
    As for your global questions on the topic of the Great Polar Fox in its various variants - atomic or asteroid, or the Gods will start a war - I personally somehow have to put everything on this with the device. Simply because we, ordinary citizens, will not be able to stop the “big guys” (well, for now, anyway) if they suddenly decide to throw plutonium at each other and ruin themselves and us at the same time.
    It will be necessary - we will fight, where to go laughing
  98. +5
    16 December 2013 14: 02
    Everything is going as it was before.
    For example, I make an extract from a history textbook of a Soviet publishing house:
    To prevent the poor from unrest, the emperors distributed bread and small money to them. In the 1st century, more than 200 thousand people in Rome received free bread. Hundreds of poor people crowded around the palaces of rich slave owners, hoping to get some handout. The Roman poor, corrupted by forced idleness and handouts, did not want to work. Not only slave owners, but even the poor considered labor to be the work of slaves, humiliating to a free person. They demanded “bread and circuses” from the emperor.

    Exact repetition, only now not slaves, but guest workers. In Russia, of course, the unemployed are not kept on benefits, but in all countries where the printing press is turned on (SGA, EU), the unemployed are on benefits.
    The economic model that emerged after feudalism is no longer effective. Therefore, the capitalist way of the world is declining, and this very world will be reformatted. Some rich people have already understood this and started reformatting, while others have not, this is confirmed by such events as: preventing a NATO strike on Syria, a 180-degree turn in the foreign policy of the SGA to BV (Iran) - the old capitalists lost, the Maidan in Ukraine is the main battle of the old capitalists . Multiculturalism in the EU countries will be replaced by its opposite - Nazism and fascism, this is their “culture” after all. And it became fashionable to mow down from the army when such news came from the army as grandfather’s lawlessness over spirits. Parents tried by all means to prevent their child from joining the army. The devastation in their education and culture, the spread of Western culture led to the fact that in the heads of young people who grew up in the new Russia, instead of a brain, there was a nerve node, from the nerves coming from the eyes, ears, tongue and spine. For example, many people don’t like the swearing goblin translation of films, but this is their real translation, that is, if you don’t like listening to swearing, you don’t want to watch Western films in which they show only shit, with propaganda of everything that is disgusting to healthy, human nature.
  99. +6
    16 December 2013 14: 04
    From a history textbook: In the 5th century BC. e. Many Greek city-states were slave-owning democracies. In these cities, a large number of citizens lived off the labor of slaves. Therefore, they had a lot of free time to engage in art, science and sports.

    This is the spitting image of the modern world order. Everything is the same, only slaves are not called slaves. Industrial production that uses human labor is a little less than entirely transferred to China, Thailand and other countries there, which they call third world countries. Their servants are residents of the countries of the Balkan Peninsula and former republics of the USSR, and in the present state entities.

    And here’s an anecdote about their slimy democracy: After death, a man, faced with a choice between heaven and hell, is offered to take him on an excursion to both ends. He looks like mortal boredom in heaven, but in hell they bought him, fed him, gave him something to drink. Well, he chose hell. He comes to hell, and the devils throw him into the furnace, which heats up the water for the devils. Confused man: Hey, when I came, everything was different. And the devils answer him: Don’t confuse tourism and migrant workers.
  100. +7
    16 December 2013 14: 29
    By and large, the entire reasonable world looks at Russia as the last bastion of traditional values. And it’s not for nothing in general. We survived the wild 90s having received a good vaccination from Western culture. Everywhere, there is an immensity of a rollback to local traditions. To the local ones because the state did not give , has not yet given a clear ideology. What was going on in the swamp, now on the Maidan, is not an indicator. So, a well-known substance that is always floating on top and therefore an eyesore. And in Europe it’s the same. The first signs of a rebellion against “tolerance and multiculturalism" has already thundered like lead through their brains.

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