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UN experts said that homemade chemical weapons were used in Syria

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UN experts said that homemade chemical weapons were used in SyriaUN chemical weapons inspectors concluded that hand-made chemical munitions were used in Syria. They presented their final report on Friday to the UN Secretary General. As the Russian permanent representative to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, said, the report confirms the guilt of militants in chemical attacks, which almost became a pretext for intervention in this Arab republic.


On Friday, the head of the expert group, Swedish professor Oka Selstrom, personally handed over to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon a report that summarizes all the data on where chemical weapons were used on Syrian territory. As stated in the final report of the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, published on the organization’s website, the chemical weapon applied in five of the seven cases studied.

Recall that the first report of the UN inspectors was published in mid-September. It concerned only the 21 incident of August in the Guta oasis in the suburbs of Damascus. After the tragedy, the United States said that as a result of himataks, more than 1,4 thousand people died. Responsibility for the deed of the United States and several other countries placed on the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. The Syrian authorities have repeatedly denied these allegations.

The original document reported the use of chemical weapons on a relatively large scale. Experts did not rule out that the head parts of the missiles could be both standard and handicraft production. Moreover, on some parts of the shells Cyrillic inscriptions were found.

A member of the expert and advisory council at the "PIR Center", a former high-ranking officer of the Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant-General of the Reserve Yevgeny Buzhinsky, then considered Cyrillic shells at the site of the gas attack to be fake.

“You know our position, and all this is absolutely clear provocation. What is Cyrillic? Does this mean that we supplied them with weapons, chemical munitions? ”- then Buzhinsky told the newspaper VIEW. He stressed that "Russia has never supplied any chemical weapons to Syria, this is definitely another provocation."

It follows from the new document that toxic substances were used not only in Guta 21 August, but also in Khan al-Asal 19 March, Sarakeb 29 April, Jobar 24 August and Ashrafia-Sakhnai 25 August. But the inspectors did not find sufficient evidence of the information about the chemical attacks in Sheikh Makhsud 13 of April and Bakhharia of 22 of August.

It turned out that in the cities of Sarakeb and Bakhkharia, as well as in the suburb of Damascus Jobar, self-made ammunition was used. In investigating the use of chemical weapons in Jobar, the Syrian authorities provided the UN mission with two used improvised ammunition found by the Syrian army 24 in August, as well as two metal containers found in the same place on August 25. However, the UN mission could not find independent confirmation of the information received, so it was unable to establish the origin of the containers and the place where they were used.

Regarding the design of improvised ammunition, it is said that they are made using manual electric welding, which does not meet industrial standards, but with thoroughness and quality, testifying to the high qualifications of the manufacturer. Containers with a capacity of about four liters were painted, did not have a coating and had signs of rust on the surface.

According to the UN, in three areas of Sarakeb in western Syria, “self-made ammunition” was dropped from a helicopter, as evidenced by a number of testimonies.

The report indicates that, according to information received by the UN, the toxic substance sarin was used along with tear gas. In Bakhharia, the military reported that a container fell from their position, which did not explode a few meters away, but blue smoke with a strong odor began to emit from it. After that, the nearest hospital received victims with respiratory symptoms and other complaints, including a burning sensation in the eyes and throat.

The report does not contain conclusions about who used chemical weapons, but it notes that as a result of such incidents both civilians and soldiers of the government army were injured. This, in particular, is confirmed by blood samples taken from them.

The conclusion about the use of chemical weapons in the suburb of Aleppo Khan al-Asal was made in absentia, because the inspectors did not visit the scene of the incident for security reasons. “An analysis of the information provided by the Syrian government, as well as the governments of France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, the United States, indicates that chemical weapons were used in Khan el-Asal,” the report says.

The information provided by Khan el-Asal also included the findings of Syrian doctors, according to which people in the area, including civilians and soldiers of the Syrian army, were subjected to "mass intoxication with organophosphate." “There is no indication to other sources of poisoning,” the document stresses.

Ban Ki-moon noted that the inspectors performed the task assigned to them in a highly professional manner, despite the dangerous conditions. The Secretary General recalled that the use of chemical weapons is a gross violation of international law and called for vigilance and the complete elimination of all chemical weapons arsenals, not only in Syria.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov, quoted by RIA "News"Recalled that Russia had previously conducted its investigation into the use of chemical weapons in Syria. “Our experts also do not confirm that this was done by government forces. There is a lot of evidence that such a chimataka could have been committed by the opposition, ”he said.

Back in July, Russia submitted a 100-page report on the results of the inspection in Khan al-Asal to the secretariat of the world organization. The document was published in early September. Analyzes of samples taken shortly after the incident confirmed the use of sarin, a neuroparalytic gas, in this area. Russian experts also found that many shells were manufactured in an artisanal way, which could indicate the use of chemical weapons by the opposition, and not by the government army.

Gatilov also recalled that last week an article was published by the American journalist Seymour Hersh, which tells about the incident with the use of sarin in August near Damascus.

“In his journalistic investigation, the question is being raised that this could be done not by government troops, but by the opposition. Therefore, such evidence, and it is not one, suggests that the opposition had the opportunity and committed these actions, ”the diplomat said.

In turn, Russia's permanent representative to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, said that the new report reinforces Russia's conviction that there are insurgents behind himataks in Aleppo and the outskirts of Damascus.

“What is written in the current report doesn’t change at all, and maybe it only supports our conviction that militants are behind the use of chemical weapons in Syria, and not the Syrian government at all,” the diplomat told Russia-24. According to Churkin, Moscow is going to prove it, however, “of course, it’s hard to expect our western partners to agree with us, since in this case we don’t have to expect objectivity from them that both in Aleppo and in Guta in the vicinity of Damascus 21 August chemical weapons were used by the opposition. "

We add that the plan for the destruction of the Syrian chemical arsenals is now being implemented. By February 5, all materials for the manufacture of chemical weapons, except isopropanol, should be removed from the country, and the most dangerous - this month. Objects associated with the Syrian chemical arsenals will be successively destroyed from December 15 to March 15. The chemicals are supposed to be destroyed on board a specially equipped ship that the US is ready to provide.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 15 December 2013 10: 44 New
    +3
    UN experts say Syria has been used homemade chemical weapons
    Well, thank God, now it remains only to say WHO makes HANDMADE CHEM. WEAPONS
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 15 December 2013 11: 00 New
      +8
      Abram's servant on his knees under a table in his office in Fashington! wassat
      Oh, his mother, his children! It is necessary to bomb the Saudis!
    2. alone
      alone 15 December 2013 11: 49 New
      +2
      According to the UN, in three areas of Sarakeb in western Syria, “self-made ammunition” was dropped from a helicopter, as evidenced by a number of testimonies.


      I don’t know that the Wahhabis have helicopters !! what
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 15 December 2013 12: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: lonely
        According to the UN, in three areas of Sarakeb in western Syria, “self-made ammunition” was dropped from a helicopter, as evidenced by a number of testimonies.


        I don’t know that the Wahhabis have helicopters !! what


        But Wahhabi accomplices have helicopters.
        1. alone
          alone 15 December 2013 13: 05 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Do you seriously think that any country will risk doing this in the 21st century? To whitewash Assad or his entourage, of course the argument is good. But you should not consider these accomplices as complete amateurs. There is something wrong. I have some doubts about helicopters. Maybe Assad may not be appropriate, but he has one weak point.
          this weak spot is called Maher Asad. he gave the order to use weapons against the demonstrators. He has power, a friend of the guard and the 4th mechanized division, the elite of the Syrian army. He could well have done this.
          1. Beck
            Beck 15 December 2013 16: 02 New
            -5
            Quote: lonely
            this weak spot is called Maher Asad. he gave the order to use weapons against the demonstrators. He has power, a friend of the guard and the 4th mechanized division, the elite of the Syrian army. He could well have done this.


            This article, without an author, is composed in the best traditions of propaganda of the Third Reich and the USSR. Matter, distortion, rearrangement, etc. Type for an inattentive reader or a reader without logic.

            What is said in the article.

            As stated in the final report of the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, published on the organization’s website, chemical weapons were used in five of the seven cases studied.

            This is the main leitmotif of the report - CHEMICAL WEAPONS were used. That is, in two cases, no chemical residues were found.

            The report does not contain conclusions about who used chemical weaponsbut it notes that such incidents affected both the civilian population and the soldiers of the government army. This, in particular, is confirmed by blood samples taken from them.

            This is the essence of the UN report. Chemical weapons used. And before the UN Commission there was no question who applied it. And the unknown author of the article, for the sake of certain moods, jerked everything, distorted and wrote a catchy title that does not correspond to the UN report.

            A good example of falsehood.

            From the new document, it follows that the poisonous substances were used not only in Guta on August 21, but also in Khan al-Asal on March 19, Sarakeb on April 29, Jobar on August 24 and Ashrafiye-Sakhnai on August 25. But the inspectors did not find sufficient evidence of information about the chemical attacks in Sheikh Maksud on April 13 and Bahcharias 22 August.

            In the article.

            It turned out that in the cities of Sarakeb and Bahcharias, as well as the suburbs of Damascus Jobar used homemade ammunition.


            As understood in the Baharri report minus, in the Baharri article plus.

            The report clearly says only one thing.

            Experts did not exclude that the warheads of the missiles could be both full-time and artisanal

            All.

            Definitely another is said.

            In investigating a case of the use of chemical weapons in Jobar, the Syrian authorities provided the UN mission with two used home-made ammunition discovered by the Syrian army on August 24, as well as two metal containers found there on August 25. However, the UN mission could not find independent confirmation of the information received, so it could not establish the origin of the containers and the place where they were used.


            Judging by the style of presentation and the methods of misinformation used, this article most likely could have been written by Gromov.
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 15 December 2013 16: 16 New
              +3
              Quote: Beck
              Judging by the style of presentation and the methods of misinformation used, this article most likely could have been written by Gromov.

              There is a red mark below where the article came from. Gromova is not the super fighter you portray her. Well done that opposes the Wahhabis, unlike you.
              1. Beck
                Beck 15 December 2013 19: 04 New
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                Quote: Sandov
                There is a red mark below the article


                And I did not claim that it was she, I assumed. And it is not known who wrote an article on this link.

                Quote: Sandov
                Gromova is not the super fighter you portray her.


                I've never portrayed her as a super fighter. A super journalist providing distorted information and a disinformation master is YES.

                Quote: Sandov
                Well done that opposes the Wahhabis, unlike you.


                It opposes mainly the opposition forces, which demanded elections three years ago and which Assad began to shoot at. Any orthodox trash ran after. Assad would not shoot at his people, no one would run. And I am not for Wahhabis, but for the fact that normal elections were held in Syria and that the Syrian people would choose a leader for themselves. And he did not obey the hereditary clan of dictators. Assad's father Hafez seized power by a coup and transferred it to his son. Dictatorships are not welcome anywhere in the world. Be it the dictatorship of Pol Pot, Pinochet, Franco, Hitler, Assad from their company, the same.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 15 December 2013 19: 48 New
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                  Quote: Beck

                  It opposes mainly the opposition forces, which demanded elections three years ago and which Assad began to shoot at. Any orthodox trash ran after. Assad would not shoot at his people, no one would run. ...

                  Do you think that enough time has passed that the people here began to eat this misinformation on a new basis?
                  Assad, with the filing of the Russian Foreign Ministry, was preparing reforms and the transition to the electoral system. This option fundamentally did not suit the United States, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Demonstrations with provocations began, you can watch peaceful demonstrators at the recent events in Kiev - they are there with chains and cobblestones, and you can read about the Tallinn television center about shooting at your people.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 16 December 2013 08: 55 New
                    0
                    Quote: poquello
                    Assad, with the filing of the Russian Foreign Ministry, was preparing reforms and transition to the electoral system. This option fundamentally did not suit the United States, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Demonstrations began with provocations, peaceful demonstrators


                    It is not visible from here. You have not blushed from your shameless lie.

                    What you should discover on the Internet, the Internet, the events of three years ago.

                    The people of Syria came to peaceful demonstrations demanding to abolish the emergency dictatorial situation in the country and hold elections.
                    The state of emergency was introduced by Hafez al-Assad during the military seizure of power and operated for 40 years. With the help of an emergency, father and son dictators held power.

                    Half a year there were peaceful demonstrations, six months Assad shot at his people. Finally, people were tired of dying, under the bullets of the dictator, just like that, he took up arms. And already in this situation all orthodox trash came to Syria. In three years, 150 thousand people died.

                    Suppose half of the soldiers, then 75 thousand are opposition. If we take the well-known loss ratio of 1: 3, then the opposition is at least 200 thousand. And what do you think are all the bandits? Bandits by definition cannot be a thousand. Bandits are gangs. Here on the site it has already been estimated that the warring orthodox of the total number of warring does not exceed 8-10%, the rest are Syrians.

                    And provocations are always satisfied with the current government. This rule is. As in tsarist times, agents of the Okhranka provoked demonstrations for pogroms. How KGB agents provoked the breaking of shop windows and car arsons (Almaty 1986). As elsewhere in the world, agents of special services provoke protest movements in order to then hang on hooligans, marauders, and bandits on prostitutes.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 16 December 2013 15: 58 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Beck
                      Quote: poquello
                      ... Demonstrations began with provocations, peaceful demonstrators


                      What you should discover on the Internet, the Internet, the events of three years ago.

                      "The testimonies of journalists who moved from Al Jazeera are honest journalists who testify that from the very beginning of the conflict, that is, since March 2011, dozens of militants crossed the Syrian border and joined the protest demonstrations. They provoked demonstrations and retaliatory actions of the authorities, "says Dolgov."
                      http://www.vestikavkaza.ru/articles/TSeli-Zapada-Turtsii-i-monarkhiy-Persidskogo

                      -zaliva-v-Sirii-.html
                      by the number of occupants, I answered you on 24.11.13, does the map in the forest help? got lost?
                      1. Beck
                        Beck 16 December 2013 20: 46 New
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                        Quote: poquello
                        by the number of occupants, I answered you on 24.11.13, does the map in the forest help? got lost?


                        Well, count yourself. Let it be 10-20 thousand. And that the regular army cannot cope with them for three years?

                        And do not talk about the militants from the very beginning. Maybe someone crossed, but not fighters. For six months, troops fired at the demonstrators. Just as in 1982, Hafez al-Assad drove, in the same Homs, 40 thousand people with tanks into the asphalt.

                        Dictators are dictators. You still shed tears for Paul Roth and the cannibal Amin that they were removed from power.
                      2. poquello
                        poquello 17 December 2013 02: 13 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Beck

                        Well, count yourself. Let it be 10-20 thousand. And that the regular army cannot cope with them for three years?

                        You as a waiter from a joke - vodka-10, crayfish-20, it turned out 50 rubles.
                        Over 40 thousand and the list is old.
                        How much did we manage in Chechnya and Dagestan ?, in Dagestan again these four cattle were laid down by four children. Hit, ran away - from Afghanistan there is still a tactic, such if they are lucky and go a thousand without problems, the gang is a gang.
                        Quote: Beck
                        And do not talk about the militants from the very beginning. Maybe someone crossed, but not fighters.

                        Yes, whatever you want to call, people went to rock the situation. The first six months, the Syrians in the armed conflict were half, for they were obscene by network propaganda, then those who got in touch with the bandits started to get in touch, and the people went away from them if they could get away.
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 17 December 2013 10: 19 New
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        Over 40 thousand and the list is old.


                        It's a lie.

                        It's just that you call all the oppositionists bandits. Then call the bandits of the partisans of 1812 and 1941-1944. Then call the bandits of the Cossacks and peasants Stepan Razin, Pugachev, Bolotnikov.

                        Get close to the French and German conquerors, they also called the partisans bandits. Become a king, the fierce landowners who also called the rebellious peasants thieves and bandits.

                        Flag in your hands and a steam locomotive towards.
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        2. Day 11
          Day 11 15 December 2013 16: 19 New
          +1
          Well, Gromova is working ... We will not discuss a lonely woman, well, it didn’t matter, it didn’t grow together ... Here you can talk with Ankhar, the woman is really in the subject
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 15 December 2013 16: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Do you seriously think that any country would risk doing this in the 21st century?

        I have no doubt about it, shmakotyavki are always ready to serve the lord.
    3. standby
      standby 16 December 2013 00: 19 New
      0
      It’s okay with the Turks, because the ISRAELISTS did in time!
  2. poquello
    poquello 15 December 2013 19: 24 New
    +3
    Quote: lonely

    I don’t know that the Wahhabis have helicopters !! what

    Somehow you get one-sided, then you report about captured tanks, then you don’t know about helicopters
    for example, at the beginning of a year
    "The Turkish news agency Anadolu on Friday, January 11, with reference to representatives of the so-called" Syrian Free Army ", spread a message according to which the rebels managed to take control of one of the country's largest military airfields -" Taftanaz ". According to the opponents of Bashar al-Assad, they captured and military equipment located at the airbase. We are talking about several helicopters, as well as an undetermined amount of ammunition. "
    http://zn.ua/WORLD/siriyskie-povstancy-obyavili-o-zahvate-strategicheski-vazhnoy
    -aviabazy.html
    1. alone
      alone 15 December 2013 19: 35 New
      0
      Quote: poquello
      "The Turkish news agency Anadolu on Friday, January 11, with reference to representatives of the so-called" Syrian Free Army ", spread a message according to which the rebels managed to take control of one of the country's largest military airfields -" Taftanaz ". According to the opponents of Bashar al-Assad, they captured and military equipment located at the airbase. We are talking about several helicopters, as well as an undetermined amount of ammunition. "


      I watched the video of the capture of taftanase, as well as the capture of the Minneg airfield. The captured helicopters were in a deplorable state and they were not evacuated from there just because they only had one name left. Even during the year it was impossible to recover them. This is not one-sidedness, but reality.
      The report written in the UN clearly hinted about helicopters that seemed to be flying, and this already means that, as if inadvertently, the UN hints that AS was using Assad, because Assad has helicopters, this is not a secret. and as for Wahhabi aviation, no one has heard or seen anything yet.
      if the Wahhabis had a helicopter or helicopters, they would have long shot a story about how they would exploit them and boast about them. But they’re shooting captured tanks, BMPs, guns, weapons depots, air defense systems, downed planes and helicopters. but in three years not a single one videos about Wahhabi aviation.
      that’s why he wrote that he didn’t know that the Wahhabis have helicopters)) that rubbish at the airports doesn’t count
  • APASUS
    APASUS 15 December 2013 14: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Well, thank God, now it remains only to say WHO makes HANDMADE CHEM. WEAPONS

    Now it does not matter!
    The propaganda effect has been achieved, Assad is a criminal - that’s all. Who will now focus on this? Yes, and this news will only be for specialists, and the masses have already announced who used chemical weapons!
  • zvereok
    zvereok 15 December 2013 15: 10 New
    +2
    Funny, weapons were used by America’s protégé, and Assad was deprived of his own weapons under this case, hanging all the dogs on him)))
  • Sandov
    Sandov 15 December 2013 16: 12 New
    +2
    The US said that more than 1,4 thousand people died as a result of the chemical attack. Responsibility for the deed of the United States and several other countries laid on the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. Syrian authorities have repeatedly denied these allegations.

    The Yankees dump their sins on others, well, this is a favorite ghoul trick. Everyone knows.
  • major071
    major071 15 December 2013 18: 29 New
    +6
    Rabinovich appeared before the court for the sale of fake wine.
    Without relying on lawyers, he defends himself:
    “Your Honor, do you understand anything in chemistry?”
    Judge:
    - No, I'm a lawyer.
    - Mr. expert, do you understand the laws?
    Expert:
    - Not. I am a chemist.
    Rabinovich:
    “Your Honor, what do you want from a poor Jew ?!” So that I understand and
    in both?
  • Hudo
    Hudo 15 December 2013 10: 48 New
    +7
    This is a chemical show performed by American hangers-on, very reminiscent of the bearded joke that I quoted below.

    A girl in a Georgian village asks to spend the night in a shack. Open
    5 Georgians:
    - You can cheat. We’ll only guess the riddle - you guess, ne Tronem, ne
    If you guess, you will be asleep to sleep sa vsemi pa ocheredi! Riddle: "Little, little red
    hanging on the dereve! "The girl agreed. In the morning in the house there is such a picture: On the floor
    Nine half-dead Georgians are lying around, the tenth kneels before the girl:
    - Little girl! I ask God for your God - well, say "cherry"! She: - You don't
    DOWNLOAD! Anyway, the cucumber!


    All indications are that CW was used by the bearded with the complicity of the Turks and Saudis and with Amer’s instigation. But don’t give the arguments that the jihadists did it - we hear the parrot’s answer anyway Al Assad is to blame and that’s it!
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 15 December 2013 11: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Hudo
      All indications are that the chemical agents used bearded men with the complicity of the Turks and Saudis and at the Amer’s instigation

      Who would doubt that.............
      Continuing the theme:
      There is a Georgian on the beach, she sees a girl lying naked - tans.
      He came up to her and asked: "Are you a pipisin hochesh girl?"
      The girl is silent ...... Well, climbed on her .... After all, she says:
      Thanks tebe devushka !!!!!
      And in response: "Wear it for health" ...........
      1. major071
        major071 15 December 2013 18: 26 New
        +5
        Doshirak noodle maker nominated for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry:
        - Noodles contain chemical elements previously unknown to science.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 December 2013 10: 55 New
    +1
    UN Chemical Weapons Inspectors concluded that artisanal chemical munitions were used in Syria.

    The Yankes and the Saud Britons will not understand how the intermediary was given a high-quality one, and those "rebels" foisted bullshit.
  • propolsky
    propolsky 15 December 2013 10: 59 New
    0
    I hope that now it’s smart enough to divert suspicions from the official authorities, or did Assad sweep tracks in this way?
  • Ihrek
    Ihrek 15 December 2013 11: 19 New
    +2
    Thank God, it finally came. But almost destroyed the country.
    1. alone
      alone 15 December 2013 11: 49 New
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      According to the UN, in three areas of Sarakeb in western Syria, “self-made ammunition” was dropped from a helicopter, as evidenced by a number of testimonies.


      Does this say anything to you?
    2. AVV
      AVV 15 December 2013 12: 40 New
      +3
      It would have happened just like in Iraq, first they bombed the country, executed Hussein, and then it only became clear that there was no trace of any chemical weapons !!!
      1. alone
        alone 15 December 2013 13: 00 New
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        Quote: AVV
        It would have happened just like in Iraq, first they bombed the country, executed Hussein, and then it only became clear that there was no trace of any chemical weapons !!!


        If there is no CW in Syria, then why did Russia offer Assad consent to be exported and destroyed? Why did Assad agree to this? And why does the UN special group on chemical weapons work in the country? CW was in Syria, it’s a fact. But about helicopters from which these improvised bombs were thrown, here it is necessary to think. The Wahhabi spur is not armed with helicopters. We should think about this.
        1. IGS
          IGS 15 December 2013 14: 32 New
          +2
          Were these helicopters?
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 15 December 2013 16: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          If there is no chemical weapons in Syria, then why did Russia offer Assad consent to its export and destruction?

          The fact of the presence of CW is not denied, the fact of its application is denied. Rats urinate people (just genocide), and the Yankees hang noodles on our ears.
          1. alone
            alone 15 December 2013 17: 32 New
            0
            Well, about noodles, everyone succeeded in this, not only the Yankees))
        3. Beck
          Beck 16 December 2013 09: 08 New
          0
          Quote: lonely
          If there is no XO in Syria,


          If Assad did not use XO and he is clean in front of the people and conscience, then with what pantyliku, with what binge, with what the hell, like that, from the bay of bargain to give consent to its destruction.

          It’s not to blame. Check, you won’t find anything anyway. And just possession of XO is not latent, its application is latent.

          This is a threat to the world community about delivering an air strike to destroy chemical weapons, forcing the Kremlin to persuade its dictatorial satellite to abandon nuclear weapons. Otherwise, Assad’s regime would come to an end.

          I have knives in the kitchen. And I didn’t kill anyone with them. So that no one has the right to confiscate them. Now, if I commit a crime with their help, then undoubtedly by justice these knives will be taken from me.
  • makarov
    makarov 15 December 2013 11: 22 New
    +3
    Well, what does the so-called "regime" of Assad have to do with it ??? The "fellows" mixed dirol with styrene in the kitchen, added bleach, baked it in the microwave, and the result: - It's all Assad. ugh, shame.
    1. alone
      alone 15 December 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      Well, yes, Pavel, and after all this shame, they threw all this out of a helicopter. Only on T, it’s not clear where the shame came from!
      1. IGS
        IGS 15 December 2013 14: 37 New
        +3
        OBS. One grandmother said. But the fact that they had powerful catapults, welded stationary, for sure. When I saw on anna-news I could not understand why this is a prehistoric weapon? In the comment it was said for throwing IEDs, but oh how well they are suitable for such 10 liter containers.
        1. alone
          alone 15 December 2013 17: 36 New
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          and how many meters is this catapult throwing a 10 liter container? funny things you tell her to god, but what about the tunnels under the city? are these also Wahhabis and Yankees digging? and is it possible to dig these tunnels in such a time? they prepared there before the events. I hope so do you agree?
          UN Special Report of the United Nations Security Council does not send. Special commissions work professionals from different countries, including from Russia.
          1. IGS
            IGS 15 December 2013 18: 17 New
            +3
            Why are they funny? These catapults with a height of 4-5 meters and professionally assembled, easily 15-20 kg, will send 400 meters along a mounted trajectory, while the trajectory will be quite steep. So you will think in a city that from a helicopter, when such a canister lands on your head. As for the commission, I believe in ours. About the tunnels, I don’t know who dug them and how. I know one thing, that chemical weapons are in fact far-fetched as WMDs, they initially became such because of the terrible picture of the consequences of their defeat in the First World War, although there it took tons to destroy one enemy soldier. It is rather psychological. XO is effective (in small quantities, not in tons) can be used only against civilians. And the bearded people in everyday life are very fond of shooting from snipers and mortars at peace. But in general, I can’t understand what are you going to understand and what to look closely at? If it were my will, I would burn them with white phosphorus, along with singers and arms suppliers, I understand ... this is bad .. but damn, I don’t feel remorse for my desire. Infection must be destroyed. Or do you think that bearded men in Syria, from all over the world pulled in there, is something else, not an infection? Then say so, give arguments, I personally respect you carefully, if only because of the chance to save myself from the sinful desire to burn them out.
            1. alone
              alone 26 December 2013 23: 59 New
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              Quote: IGS
              If it were my will, I would burn them with white phosphorus, along with singers and arms suppliers, I understand ... this is bad .. but damn, I don’t feel remorse for my desire. Infection must be destroyed. Or do you think that bearded men in Syria, from all over the world pulled in there, is something else, not an infection? Then say so, give arguments, I personally respect you carefully, if only because of the chance to save myself from the sinful desire to burn them out.


              but as for white phosphorus, the idea is not bad. Only on the condition that civilians do not suffer (i.e., point strikes) bearded men are not infected, this is a fiend of Hell. And the more they die, the better. I’m just against the way they are being waged against. You but agree that there is a lot of incomprehensible in the actions of the army and other structures that are loyal to Assad.
              about the Wahhabis. the Wahhabis began to appear in Syria a year after the outbreak of the armed conflict. I understand how everyone worries about Assad, but who did they fight before the Wahhabis? By their citizens. With whom it was possible to negotiate. It was still not jihadists.
  • ReifA
    ReifA 15 December 2013 12: 33 New
    +1
    If not for Russia, the events would have reminded Iraq, gouging the country, and then the weapons are dumb. (Use of weapons by Assad).
  • shinobi
    shinobi 15 December 2013 12: 46 New
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    Well, not even a year had passed. Someone doubted. The first thing I noticed was the number of witnesses who received a non-lethal defeat of O. But after all, be it army ammunition with sarin, they should be several times smaller. It’s enough to recall the gas attacks of the First World War.
  • major071
    major071 15 December 2013 12: 54 New
    +5
    He always said that the Americans are ready to recognize by using chemical weapons even a bombed out street toilet, from the smell of the contents of which their hirelings were poisoned. stop
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 15 December 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      He always said that the Americans are ready to recognize by using chemical weapons even a bombed out street toilet, from the smell of the contents of which their hirelings were poisoned. stop

      Yes, let them suffocate in this stench. As in Turkey, put in a vat with wood and a sword every minute over the head to wave. Let him feel the taste of Western democracy.
  • makarov
    makarov 15 December 2013 13: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: shinobi
    Well, not even a year had passed. Someone doubted. The first thing I noticed was the number of witnesses who received a non-lethal defeat of O. But after all, be it army ammunition with sarin, they should be several times smaller. It’s enough to recall the gas attacks of the First World War.


    Or maybe this is the same Uzbek merchant (?), Which I mentioned earlier in the comment? according to rumors, after his "genies" the people hurt their eyes?
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 15 December 2013 13: 47 New
    +2
    Helicopters are not a problem - they were captured by bandits, and in the ranks of this rabble there are enough qualified mercenaries and intelligence officers who know how to fly a helicopter ..... in addition, this whole story has Turkish "legs" growing.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 15 December 2013 14: 05 New
    +4
    they are made using manual electric welding that does not meet industry standards, but with care and quality, indicating the manufacturer’s high qualifications.
    The hand of the Professor is felt ...
  • Bosk
    Bosk 15 December 2013 14: 08 New
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    I'm afraid that chemistry is still not homemade, it is an inept attempt to get out of a quandary. For example, imagine that this weapon is not self-made (it doesn’t matter whether it’s Russian or American or something else), because in this case you’ll have to find out how it got to the militants ... but they don’t seem to like this very much, so they painted the picture as bearded uncles in the kitchen, through moonshine or some other apparatus, they cook boiled chemistry. In short, the funeral bourgeoisie has merged all the ends ...
  • mountain
    mountain 15 December 2013 15: 09 New
    +2
    Are you all serious? Helicopter, chemical weapons, because this is only an excuse. And after the fight they don’t wave their fists. It's time to ask from America for her actions, it’s good to let everything go on the brakes. Wrong times are coming.
  • Day 11
    Day 11 15 December 2013 17: 17 New
    +1
    By the way, guys, because of the PCM. I haven’t seen such a thing with a shortened barrel yet. For the attack, that’s it. PS is the Lebanese from the militia
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 15 December 2013 17: 27 New
      +2
      Hello Denis "ukorty" made by Romanians and Poles, he is also called PKM in the SOPMOD package.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 15 December 2013 17: 34 New
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        Hi Sasha. Thank you, to my shame I did not know
  • Day 11
    Day 11 15 December 2013 18: 00 New
    +3
    In short, here is PERSONALLY my answer. They will not wait -... to your collar, not Syria !!!
  • Day 11
    Day 11 15 December 2013 18: 07 New
    +2
    Assad drives them
  • Delink
    Delink 15 December 2013 18: 15 New
    +1
    Again Americans offer their services. Again, they hang noodles and send the ship to their shores. But they will, they will say that everything is destroyed. And the papers will be officially presented. Let our people do it better.
  • KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 15 December 2013 20: 37 New
    +3
    There was no need to use chemical weapons for Assad, and even vice versa, this could lead to intervention. It’s clear that this is a provocation of the US bloc / terrorists
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 December 2013 22: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      There was no need to use chemical weapons for Assad, and even vice versa, this could lead to intervention. It’s clear that this is a provocation of the US bloc / terrorists


      Only one thing can be said with accuracy about the use of chemical weapons by government forces:
  • pvv113
    pvv113 15 December 2013 22: 04 New
    +7
    behind the use of chemical weapons in Syria are militants, not the Syrian government
    THE YANKS FEDERED THESE Militants, DEMONSTRATING THE WORLD'S DUAL STANDARDS FOR ASSESSING ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATIONS: ONE APPOINTED TERRORISTS, OTHER - REBEL. AND DON'T INTERVENT RUSSIA, IT IS UNKNOWN THAN WOULD HAVE FINISHED THE WAY OF THE WEST TO ESTABLISH ITS SHOPPING IN SYRIA
  • standby
    standby 16 December 2013 00: 35 New
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    I consider the conclusions of experts another diplomatic victory of Russia! In pend_sii there is an opinion that who feeds a girl - he dances her, they consider the UN such a girl! And it is very gratifying that the result looks objective enough! I am sure that this objectivity became possible only with the participation of our people and the position of our country, it pleases!