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Fighting ships of the USA and China nearly collided in the South China Sea

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Fighting ships of the USA and China nearly collided in the South China Sea



In the South China Sea, US and Chinese warships almost collided, Washington declared protest to Beijing, US media reported on Friday.

"Being legally in the South China Sea, (US cruiser)" Cowens "and one of the ships of the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLA) agreed that in order to avoid a collision, maneuvering was needed," the American military sailor said, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to The Washington Free Beacon.

“This incident emphasizes the need to observe the highest professional standards at sea, including communications between ships, to minimize the risk of an accidental incident or emergency,” he added. According to the description of the publication, the US Navy missile cruiser "Cowens" went on the high seas near the new Chinese aircraft carrier "Liaoning".

From one of the Chinese escort ships he was ordered to stop, but the cruiser continued to move. Then the Chinese ship went to him intersect, and then stopped. In order to avoid a collision, “Copens” had to abruptly change course.

According to the American sailors, the maneuver was dangerous.

The State Department reported that the United States has filed a protest against China through diplomatic and military channels in both Washington and Beijing.

Recently, the US has been regularly making claims to China over the creation of a new identification air defense zone in the East China Sea. At the same time, the authorities in Washington do not recognize that they are in fact pursuing a policy of "deterring" China.
Earlier, South Korea announced the expansion of its air defense zone. It will cover the islands south of the Korean Peninsula. Experts warn: this will increase the degree of tension in the region, since some of the islands in question are also controlled by China.

December 6 South Korean President Park Geun-hye informed US Vice President Joe Biden at a bilateral meeting on Seoul's plans.
Japan declared its readiness to defend its borders, the United States condemned the decision of the PRC, calling it "too radical." The United States called on China not to support the air defense zone and refused to recognize it.

Last week, China announced an additional expansion of the air defense zone.

US airlines said they would notify China about flights in the air defense zone, as requested by the PRC. Korea and Japan have ordered their airlines to ignore the new rules.

On November 28, the Japanese and South Korean airplanes had already crossed the air defense zone without warning, without meeting any reaction from the PRC.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 14 December 2013 07: 46
    +6
    A game of nerves.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 14 December 2013 08: 37
      +3
      And before our fleet "bad" with them. Alas, almost nothing is left of him. crying
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 14 December 2013 10: 03
        47
        This remaining "almost nothing" has remained the world's second-largest fleet, not surpassed by China or anyone else. And no need to whine, it's disgusting to listen. This whining has already become a national feature of Russians in Russia.
        1. BBM
          BBM 14 December 2013 14: 21
          -29 qualifying.
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          This remaining "almost nothing" has remained the world's second-largest fleet, not surpassed by China or anyone else. And no need to whine, it's disgusting to listen. This whining has already become a national feature of Russians in Russia.

          long erotic dreams dream ??? At present, the PRC fleet is significantly larger than the RF fleet and, to put it mildly, deadly dynamics. In China, the construction of aircraft carriers and SSGNs is now in full swing and what do you have ???
          1. askort154
            askort154 14 December 2013 15: 44
            31
            BBM .... In China, the construction of aircraft carriers and SSGNs is in full swing and what do you have ???

            And, let me ask you the answer - WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
            Sold to the Chinese for a penny, built by EVERYTHING. And now: neither those pennies, nor GAS, one crap toilet (maidan) ?! Sorry, I ran into myself!
            1. BBM
              BBM 14 December 2013 19: 32
              -13 qualifying.
              Quote: askort154
              And, let me ask you the answer - WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

              I'm sorry already, but answering a question with a question is Jewish. Are you Jewish? As far as I know, Ukraine does not claim to be a great power, unlike Russia.
              1. bif
                bif 15 December 2013 03: 48
                +4
                Quote: BBM
                As far as I know, Ukraine does not claim to be a great power, unlike Russia.

                Typical displeased and offended Maidan.
              2. doctor.75
                doctor.75 15 December 2013 11: 11
                0
                I am Jewish. What's next?
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 15 December 2013 15: 46
                  0
                  It is important not who, but which. :)
            2. Sibiriya
              Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 08
              0
              When to survive, what are you doing?
            3. Sterlya
              Sterlya 15 December 2013 02: 17
              +1
              Quote: askort154
              And, let me ask you the answer - WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

              And they have an unfinished cruiser in Nikolaev. since Soviet times. the most valuable (I don’t understand in any way. they still haven’t sold it for scrap. probably they want to grab more)
          2. Mairos
            Mairos 14 December 2013 16: 57
            11
            And we and the new series SSBNs are being built and the new series SSBNs are being built and frigates and corvettes. Learn the materiel.
          3. Victor-M
            Victor-M 14 December 2013 17: 16
            11
            Quote: BBM
            what do you have ???

            And we have gas in our apartment! And you?
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 14 December 2013 19: 04
              +1
              Quote: Victor-M
              Quote: BBM
              what do you have ???

              And in our apartment there is gas! And you...

              Yanukovych pi ... dog wassat
            2. Basil123
              Basil123 14 December 2013 19: 59
              +1
              fellow laughing fellow laughing +++++++++++
            3. loft79
              loft79 15 December 2013 00: 59
              +4
              Quote: Victor-M
              And we have gas in our apartment! And you?

              Ahhhhhh! I haven’t fought under the table for a long time in hysterics wassat good
              It turns out S. Mikhalkov was also a political satirist, wrote for centuries.
            4. The comment was deleted.
          4. Sergius
            Sergius 14 December 2013 18: 04
            +2
            What about you? In a stranger's eye we see a mote ...
            1. Nick
              Nick 14 December 2013 20: 32
              -1
              Quote: Sergius
              In a stranger's eye we see a mote ...

              Yes, yes ... we will not see in our log ...
          5. Patriot.ru.
            Patriot.ru. 14 December 2013 19: 55
            +3
            Lord Ukrainians if you consider the Chinese aircraft carrier the scrap metal that you sold them. All the best to you.
          6. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 14 December 2013 20: 27
            +3
            With us, the farther the better. The rearmament of the army, aviation, navy, East Kazakhstan region is in full swing. The latest ICBMs and other and other are being developed and built. Our people are getting richer without noticing it. Ordinary people of working specialties have several cars, people go abroad to rest. Come see for yourself. Russia, unlike your beloved geyropa, does not have pederasts, they are simply forbidden in our country, since they will not call a good man a fagot. In addition, if you familiarize yourself with the materials of the site www.sdelanounas.ru, you will see that our business is much better than in the Holocaust geyropa, which has neither the resources nor the serious industries that were launched by Southeast Asia.

            Well, and "and we have gas in our apartment, and you"?
          7. Pensioner2010
            Pensioner2010 15 December 2013 01: 47
            +1
            I apologize! Is the submarine welded to the pier in Sevastopol already repaired?
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 15 December 2013 14: 26
              +1
              Quote: Pensioner2010
              I apologize! Is the submarine welded to the pier in Sevastopol already repaired?

              Sergei Mikhailovich, they themselves could not. They turned to us for help. Had an old memory to help the cutting fleet.
          8. Sibiriya
            Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 03
            0
            Sorry of course
            but in the Pacific we have no competitors and will not
        2. Interface
          Interface 14 December 2013 19: 25
          10
          Well, actually, China really outnumbered the Russian Navy. For destroyers, FREE submarines, and not those that are at the berths.
          They have more than 60 submarines in service, with most of them being built in the 90-00 of the twentieth.
          In 2014, 2015 the construction of aircraft carriers begins. Now docks are being reconstructed there, installation works are being carried out, etc.
          Someone may recall that we have the cruiser of the 1144 Orlan, 1164 Atlant projects ...
          Question: And will Peter the Great be able to fight off alone if he does not have powerful escort ships left? Just do not be cunning, no, of course.
          And how many ships of the project 1164 are in service? Of the 10 planned, only 4 have been built (the collapse of the USSR), today only 2 out of 4 are in service (one is undergoing a major overhaul), one is in a sludge in a "self-contained" building, and she is still trying to sell it to us, maybe it’s yellow @ dye (sorry) will offer more ... I don't know ...
          Ahhh, maybe someone will remember about the repair of the "Eagles", which will go into service in 2017, 18, and after 20? And how old will the building be, maybe it's worth counting? equipment with rockets will be delivered, but the basis for something ..? The first (kr. Kirov) was launched in (!) 1977. Thus, the age of the ship will be in 2017 --- 40 years. Can a ship (even such a formidable one) serve for half a century? Here is such arithmetic.
          Plus, we again recall the escort ships. Or "Granchenkov" we will launch another 500, so, they say, security? For cruisers, destroyers are needed, they seem to be going to build from 2016-2017, but here we remember that we are a "liberal market economy", and therefore if the US runs out of green paint lol , the money will finally end, a new crisis will begin, and IIIyyyy ........ will we swim again ??)) Where the hell do you say?
          and what are we going to build ships for, if there is no money to eat?
          We are repairing aircraft carriers to the Indians ... we have been planning for 5 for years .... to include FINALLY aircraft carriers in GPV-2020. Or maybe a submarine is better? Yes, our General Staff itself does not know how he himself is better! Everyone argues whether we will build or not, and there are still years of work at 10, on the actual construction. Indeed, in our shipyards, not tens of thousands work as in 91. Right now, tens of thousands will not be typed everywhere.
          Speaking of submarines, this is the only thing you can praise the MO. The only place where we have those small pads, and so everything is built according to plan.
          Finally, they are building corvettes (!), They frustrated the frigate, now it’s all up to the trials, thank God!

          But the people ...
          Well, this is spitting in comparison with the REAL NEEDS of the NAVY. The issues are resolved, yes, but so slowly that nothing really changes, for one problem the other goes, then the work has been busy for years on 10 and this is with the maximum effort, it's like to unravel a fishing line on a fishing rod!


          So, do not indulge yourself with the thought that everything is "well, with a stretch" but in order. The Chinese fleet is developing faster than ours, much faster, and in combination with the growth of their economy, this is an alley for us. They annually launch more than 100 ships from only one shipyard in Dalyan, I dare say, and also shipyards in Shanghai and other ports.

          Amers launched an aircraft carrier. And it doesn’t matter that without equipment, when they ALREADY put it on, we will only have Peter the Great put on overhaul (201 ?, according to the plan, when will it be repaired?)


          Our fleet is only combat-ready for now, but then - can we replace the ships, replace them with modern ones (!!). So far, only plans and words. They all seem to give us hope. By so far these are only plans.
          Will wait.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 14 December 2013 20: 34
            +2
            Quote: Interface
            Question: And will Peter the Great be able to fight off alone if he does not have powerful escort ships left?

            I don’t know whether it can or not. Question: And who can fight off alone if he does not have powerful escort ships left?
          2. Sibiriya
            Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 05
            0
            Quantitatively does not mean qualitatively.
            We know China how hot it is to mom under the skirt
            also the Americans and the Japs ask
        3. Nick
          Nick 14 December 2013 20: 29
          +2
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          And do not whine, disgusted to listen. This nagging has already become a national feature of Russians in Russia.

          This nagging professional duty of some who are present on the site ...
        4. Candy wrapper
          Candy wrapper 14 December 2013 21: 13
          +2
          Japan has a stronger fleet. We will not be able to cope with the US fleet, which means that we do not have a fleet at all, we will not fight with the Papuans, they are not our potential adversary. Here the situation is simple: either all or nothing, or we can cope with the NATO Navy, or not. At the moment, we will not be able to cope with the NATO Navy. So consider that we do not have a fleet.
          1. Pensioner2010
            Pensioner2010 15 December 2013 02: 30
            +2
            You have a slightly incorrect rating. With NATO alone alone no one can handle. Yes, and why? It is enough for them to inflict unacceptable losses on them. According to the doctrine, our fleet is called to defend the country, and not to wage colonial wars. Therefore, it will operate under the cover of coastal forces and aircraft (not aircraft carrier). During the Cold War, the USSR relied on a submarine fleet (and rightly so) because it is cheaper and more effective in conducting defensive operations. That’s the whole difference. But to be measured by the fact that someone is thicker is generally stupid. We have different tasks.
          2. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 15 December 2013 09: 02
            +1
            Fleets have different tasks.
            Our fleet will cope with any fleet in the world, if there is such a task!
      2. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 01
        +1
        do not lie something
    2. alone
      alone 14 December 2013 10: 59
      +3
      what it seems quietly the sides begin to show their teeth to each other. It remains to stock up on patience and seeds and wait for how it all ends!
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 14 December 2013 12: 15
        -1
        Did the monkey want to get off the tree, but stumbled upon a lion?
        1. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 14 December 2013 13: 12
          +6
          Quote: Tektor
          The monkey wanted to get off the tree, but stumbled upon a lion?

          To whom ?, to the lion? Rather, on a fat slop cat, which no one had kicked for a long time, and therefore he relaxed and fattened to disgrace. But nothing monkey will lead the cat to tone, and the tiger licks its wounds and is not going to die at all.
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 14 December 2013 17: 00
            +2
            It’s in vain, in the past 20 years, the USA has received not frail experience in organizing and conducting military operations. China at sea does not shine against the United States. Hat-making - EVIL !!!
            1. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 14 December 2013 17: 39
              +4
              Quote: Mairos
              Hat-making - EVIL !!!

              I agree like the other extreme - admiration and faith in the omnipotence and invincibility of the enemy. But the United States has not yet won a single war with a worthy adversary.
              1. Candy wrapper
                Candy wrapper 14 December 2013 21: 21
                +3
                Because the USA does not have worthy opponents, there was only one (USSR), but all came out.
              2. Sibiriya
                Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 13
                0
                And they will never win while there is Russia and its GRU special forces, for example, etc. etc.
            2. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 15 December 2013 09: 04
              0
              Who did they fight with? on the sea?
        2. Victor-M
          Victor-M 14 December 2013 17: 18
          -1
          Quote: Tektor
          Did the monkey want to get off the tree, but stumbled upon a lion?

          More like a dragon.
          1. velikoros-xnumx
            velikoros-xnumx 14 December 2013 17: 46
            +4
            Quote: Victor-M
            Quote: TektorMonkey wanted to get down from a tree, but stumbled upon a lion? Rather, a dragon.

            You probably are not familiar with the statement of the Great Helmsman about the fighting lion and tiger (according to another version of two tigers - the USA and the USSR), in which China is designated as a smart monkey sitting on a tree and waiting in the wings until the lion and tiger weaken each other so much so that the descending monkey would not finish them off.
            1. Victor-M
              Victor-M 15 December 2013 00: 42
              0
              Quote: velikoros-xnumx
              Perhaps you are not familiar with the statement of the Great Helmsman regarding the fighting lion and tiger

              Yes God bless him with the helmsman, but the United States really began to resemble a monkey, and also with a grenade (nuclear).
              1. Sibiriya
                Sibiriya 15 December 2013 02: 15
                0
                Rather, you stay with a neutrinoin comrade
      2. avg
        avg 14 December 2013 16: 52
        +2
        stock up with patience and seeds and wait for how it all ends!

        It could very well end like it did with the South Korean Boeing in September 1983.
      3. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 14 December 2013 19: 08
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        what it seems quietly the sides begin to show their teeth to each other. It remains to stock up on patience and seeds and wait for how it all ends!


        I'm afraid there will not be enough seeds, my first news association lol :


    3. scrack
      scrack 14 December 2013 12: 47
      +1
      Someone forgot to turn on the radar laughing
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 14 December 2013 16: 00
        +1
        Or maybe the Chinese just didn't notice the super-stealthy warship? It is on the radar like a tennis ball - they decided to grab it, and here such misunderstandings "US, Chinese warships come dangerously close"
    4. AVV
      AVV 14 December 2013 14: 54
      0
      Found a scythe on a stone !!!
    5. Megatron
      Megatron 14 December 2013 15: 07
      +7
      That's good, let them continue to fight, ram, shoot, and we will see from Vladik)
    6. Cherdak
      Cherdak 14 December 2013 15: 55
      0
      And recently, from the bottom up, they looked at the Yankees
    7. 222222
      222222 14 December 2013 18: 00
      +2
      Edward72 SU Today, 07:46 AM
      "A game of nerves ..." or a game of nerves?
      It would be clear to the Americans if the ships collided in the South American Sea, but so far it is the South China .. yes and in the distance, the Chinese coast can be seen aboard, and to America N. 000 nautical miles
    8. Arkan
      Arkan 15 December 2013 05: 02
      0
      Sooner or later they will surely collide. Let's wait.
  2. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 07: 50
    +9
    sorry that did not encounter
  3. awg75
    awg75 14 December 2013 07: 51
    +9
    maybe two spiders will soon devour each other ???
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 14 December 2013 10: 04
      +3
      I put a plus, BUT the main diet of spiders is weaker creatures.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 14 December 2013 13: 12
      13
      Quote: awg75
      maybe two spiders will soon devour each other ???


      Her, to meeedelennoe, tragooomooootnoe, doooolegie measuring pussy wassat
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 14 December 2013 13: 54
        +5
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Her, to meeedelennoe, tragooomooootnoe, doooolegie measuring pussy

        This will lead to a military psychosis of mandarins, as well as the militarization of countries in the region. And all this is on our eastern borders. Therefore, we, too, will have to strain ourselves, and here the problems of "Northern Delivery" emerge. Oh, something is swelling!
  4. haron
    haron 14 December 2013 07: 51
    15
    How many such incidents there were at sea and on land between the USSR - the United States and, like nothing, did not fight globally on "clubs".
    I hope the Chinese and Amers have the intelligence to resolve the conflict by mutual obscenity. Let it be better to measure the long genitals, and then someone will fall off later :)

    PS. As far as I understand, the article presented the American "fact" of seeing what happened. I wonder what Kitaisa will say.
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 14 December 2013 08: 14
      +9
      I immediately remembered the incident when a Soviet helicopter hovered over the deck of an American aircraft carrier and did not give land to aircraft.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 14 December 2013 12: 44
        +6
        And when was it, interesting? I have not heard or read about this recourse
      2. Edward72
        Edward72 14 December 2013 16: 38
        0
        Five years ago they showed the box memories of sailors from the helicopter carrier Kiev or Minsk. Well, it was natural during the Soviet era. I have wiring before the bell to the apartment from the mattress beacon because a neighbor used to go on a nuclear-powered boat. Then they spoiled each other’s roofs according to his stories.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 14 December 2013 14: 01
      +4
      Quote: haron
      I hope the Chinese and Amers have the brains to resolve the conflict by mutual obscenities

      They have two paths: further confrontation with an unpredictable outcome, or the conclusion of an agreement "On the Prevention of Incidents at Sea", as was the case with the USSR, when incidents became a threat and a pretext for a major war.
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 14 December 2013 08: 04
    +2
    Slightly not considered.
  6. makarov
    makarov 14 December 2013 08: 06
    +8
    how it turns out, the Chinese Navy, without scrupulousness and unfolding, put its "device" on the American Navy, and when they did not listen, then also "the device on the forehead." In Russian speech and transcription, it sounds something like this: - go for sherry asshole !! know the footer your place ...
  7. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 14 December 2013 08: 14
    +8
    ... and the Yankees pissed ... laughing
    1. haron
      haron 14 December 2013 08: 36
      +4
      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      and the Yankees pissed.

      Yes, with what a fright :)

      The "standard" situation was being worked out.
      Americans provoke China, China begins to respond, Americans read all reaction parameters (from the noise of the screws to the interception of all kinds of radio, network, coordination, etc. signal). Up to the level of hydrogen sulfide emission by Chinese sailors.
      1. 10kAzAk01
        10kAzAk01 14 December 2013 10: 09
        +1
        Yes, with what a fright :)

        pissed ... pissed ... wanted to put on a point, but they themselves turned away ... it is clear that the provocation ... but the Chinese are not the same ...
        1. haron
          haron 14 December 2013 10: 43
          +4
          Quote: 10kAzAk01
          pissed ... pissed.

          Well, you know better wink
  8. egor 1712
    egor 1712 14 December 2013 08: 44
    +4
    Well done, the Chinese are quietly, slowly but crushing the Americans. They make it clear that their sphere of interests is expanding every year. Americans can not oppose anything to them. No, of course you can send a note of protest.
  9. Semurg
    Semurg 14 December 2013 09: 06
    +1
    American airlines pledged to notify the flights through the air defense zone, the Japanese and Koreans refused. It is interesting that the Chinese will take these planes to force them to land forcibly or make the last Chinese warning. Because what they will do, it will be possible to judge China’s readiness for a small war.
  10. ZU-23
    ZU-23 14 December 2013 09: 22
    +6
    There is no limit to the arrogance of the Americans, cattle also show it, this is the South China Sea, and your continent is generally in another place.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 14 December 2013 14: 20
      +8
      Quote: ZU-23
      There is no limit to the arrogance of the Americans, cattle also show it, this is the South China Sea, and your continent is generally in another place.

      This is true. And I really dislike the Yankees for that. At sea, it is customary to respect the wishes (!) Of the other side, if this does not interfere with the fulfillment of your task. the Americans ignored the Chinese request not to interfere with their maneuver. Therefore, they are wrong. BUT!!! the requirement to "STOP" on the high seas is, in fact, an open obstacle to the exercise of the right to FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION. After such a request, a) an inspection team, b) an anti-terror group, c) a prize team is usually landed on the deck. This is time.
      Secondly, to cut the course of a warship and stop the vehicles in front of him is an act of obvious ill will. In fact, this is a provocation, as a retaliatory measure for non-compliance with the request to move away from the aircraft carrier. So both sailors are wrong here. But, staff members, more sophisticated in matters of shipping, were the first to file a note of protest against the violation by the Chinese of the norms of the law of the sea. And formally they are right, despite the fact that they themselves created this situation. All of this is reminiscent of the Pueblo scenario.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 15 December 2013 03: 45
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: ZU-23
        There is no limit to the arrogance of the Americans, cattle also show it, this is the South China Sea, and your continent is generally in another place.

        This is true. And I really dislike the Yankees for that. At sea, it is customary to respect the wishes (!) Of the other side, if this does not interfere with the fulfillment of your task. the Americans ignored the Chinese request not to interfere with their maneuver. Therefore, they are wrong. BUT!!! the requirement to "STOP" on the high seas is, in fact, an open obstacle to the exercise of the right to FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION. After such a request, a) an inspection team, b) an anti-terror group, c) a prize team is usually landed on the deck. This is time.
        Secondly, to cut the course of a warship and stop the vehicles in front of him is an act of obvious ill will. In fact, this is a provocation, as a retaliatory measure for non-compliance with the request to move away from the aircraft carrier. So both sailors are wrong here. But, staff members, more sophisticated in matters of shipping, were the first to file a note of protest against the violation by the Chinese of the norms of the law of the sea. And formally they are right, despite the fact that they themselves created this situation. All of this is reminiscent of the Pueblo scenario.


    2. OLGRIN
      OLGRIN 14 December 2013 21: 44
      0
      Now, here, the incident occurred in the South China Sea, and Washington said the protest, the paradoxes of politics b..t!
  11. jjj
    jjj 14 December 2013 09: 27
    0
    The Chinese have shown that they will use "soft" force. The Americans have shown that they will avoid clashes. I wonder how the breakthrough of the American boat to the main steamer of the Chinese AUG ended. The Chinese bought into the situation and the boat launched a "torpedo attack"? Or listened more attentively under the water and carried out an "anti-submarine attack"?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 14 December 2013 14: 33
      +3
      Quote: jjj
      I wonder what ended the breakthrough of the American boat to the main ship of the Chinese AUG

      Where did you get this? The Chinese cruiser was watched by the American cruiser, probably recorded noise from the operation of the power plant in various travel modes. Why are there Yankees PLA? This would be if Liaolin went to the shores of the states, then then, for sure, a submarine would have grabbed onto it, and would have dangled in the shaded aft KU, being in the salvo position. So what should she do there? Although everything is possible in our troubled world.
  12. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 December 2013 11: 10
    +4
    Before I "butt" with someone, I need very vestnye reasons. If only the state is not in a state of war. Let's just see some things realistically:
    Recently, China has been building up its armed forces both in quantitative and qualitative plans;
    As a result of economic expansion, China is claiming first place not only in the region, but also in the world;

    Now, in order for these ambitions to be not unfounded, they need to be reinforced visually. If we reduce all these butting to a simple one (for example, a boxer fight in the ring, when at the beginning of the fight the rivals conduct reconnaissance in force in order to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the enemy necessary for further fighting), then China elementarily checks the reaction of its opponents. To determine the line, crossing which the Rubicon can cross.
    The establishment of an air defense zone, a skirmish with US Navy ships are all links in the same chain. Assessing the reaction of the enemy, be it Japan, the United States or Korea. To see how everything can go far, you just need to wait. These, I think, are not the last incidents. After all, China has not yet participated in real clashes, like the USSR did during the Cold War, therefore, all clashes take place far beyond the borders of terrorists and the country's real airspace. The USA and the USSR "fought" with each other knowing that each had a strong nuclear baton hanging over his shoulders, and they had no real rivals. In this case, China is a dark horse for the rest of the world in the military plan, and what is happening now is only entering the world stage in a new incarnation not of a third world country with a huge population (40-50 years ago), but of a powerful power with huge ambitions.
    Economic ambitions have already been tested, because almost the whole world is littered with Chinese goods.
    It remains to verify military ambitions to confirm the above.
    This is exactly what we observe. For a start, China is afraid to shoot down planes in its so-called air defense zone, but it’s not a matter of fact that after saying "A", after a while they will not be afraid to say "B". Unless other players on this field show their options for solving the problem of China.

    This is just my opinion.
  13. sasska
    sasska 14 December 2013 11: 16
    +1
    “While legally in the South China Sea, (US cruiser)“ Coopens ”and one of the ships of the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLA) came together so that maneuvering was required to avoid a collision”


    "bulk" in the Chinese version? the Chinese need an internship at the Black Sea Fleet - there they will teach how it should be performed correctly against "legally located"
  14. propolsky
    propolsky 14 December 2013 11: 29
    +1
    A matter of time: some - the masters of peace and democracy, the second - raise their heads and are well-armed, the main thing is that the pokes are local in scope and without continuation, both have too many teeth, and some have special purposes!
  15. kelevra
    kelevra 14 December 2013 11: 31
    +3
    In 1986, in my opinion, the USA in the Black Sea also tried to get close to the water border of the USSR, ours then rammed them and demolished add-ons! China does not lag behind, right, the Yankees have their island, let them swim there!
    1. askort154
      askort154 14 December 2013 15: 54
      +1
      kelevra ... in the Black Sea they also tried to get close to the water border of the USSR

      I also wanted to give this example. Thank you, I’ve gotten ahead!
      1. lukke
        lukke 14 December 2013 20: 15
        0
        12 February 1988 year
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  16. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 14 December 2013 11: 42
    +5
    In this situation, I recall Zadornov
  17. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 14 December 2013 12: 05
    +1
    It seems that all these concerts, with the participation of the Americans and the Chinese, are all for outside observers of all stripes to set the main vector for the development of events in the world needed by the main characters.
  18. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 14 December 2013 12: 26
    +4
    Quote: He was ordered to stop from one of the Chinese escort ships, but the cruiser continued to move.

    In February 1988, American ships entered the Black Sea and decided to test the strength of the Soviet maritime border. The Soviet watchmen boldly went to the ram and the Yankees got in the face and got away. The insolence of the Americans is boundless. Therefore, the Chinese had to be more active. And then again "1253 Chinese warning". I remember it was in the 50s.
    Nawal "Selfless" to the American "Yorktown"
    1. gorku68
      gorku68 14 December 2013 14: 35
      0
      Yes, the Americans are not used to the instructions from other ships to stop, they probably choked on such Chinese arrogance. Well, ours, "Selfless", well done! The Chinese take an example!
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  20. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 14 December 2013 12: 37
    +1
    I think the Chinese ships should go near the American AUG, and often protest with emphasis on the need to increase the professionalism of US sailors.
  21. Saburo
    Saburo 14 December 2013 12: 40
    +1
    Oh, they don’t have any garbage there. It got to the point that the Chinese forcibly planted an American military transporter and it was not once there, but in the 90s. And the fact that the American ship was accompanied by a Chinese aircraft carrier is nothing unusual. The South China Sea is the zone of responsibility of the US 7th Fleet, they and our ships accompany there.

    By the way, judging by the official data, "Coupens" cut no less than the UDC, the only ships of this class in the PLA Navy are the Qinchenshan type, with a displacement of 19 thousand tons each. For comparison, "Ticonderoga" is an average of 9800 -9600 tons.
  22. Arkan
    Arkan 14 December 2013 12: 56
    +3
    Bravo to the Chinese! They didn’t ram like us, but nevertheless they frightened and forced the amers to turn away.

  23. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 14 December 2013 13: 03
    0
    “While legally in the South China Sea, (US cruiser)“ Coopens ”and one of the ships of the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLA) came together in such a way that maneuvering was required to avoid a collision,” said the American naval officer,

    They can’t take insolence, they can even trade it and give it on credit!
    In their port bars, their rightful place, and not in the territories of Southeast Asia!
  24. Yarik
    Yarik 14 December 2013 13: 24
    0
    I apologize for being off topic, just pinned cool, I could not resist. Kim Jong-un first appeared in public after the execution of his uncle, this is in AiF. And the picture there is soaked with such a loafer against the background of generals who look like mummies of the pharaohs. .. lol
  25. knn54
    knn54 14 December 2013 13: 47
    0
    VARYAG ("Liaoning"), even among the Chinese, is ready to make a breakthrough!
  26. Lesnik
    Lesnik 14 December 2013 13: 52
    +1
    Are measured .... who has a longer pussy laughing it always has been and will be wink
    And all the rest is information support, processing of its own population to create an "enemy image"
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 14 December 2013 17: 28
      0
      Quote: Forestman
      Are measured .... who has a pipiska longer than laughing has always been and will be wink

      Come on, the main thing is to correctly dispose of.
  27. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 14 December 2013 15: 08
    0
    Quote: BBM
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    This remaining "almost nothing" has remained the world's second-largest fleet, not surpassed by China or anyone else. And no need to whine, it's disgusting to listen. This whining has already become a national feature of Russians in Russia.

    long erotic dreams dream ??? At present, the PRC fleet is significantly larger than the RF fleet and, to put it mildly, deadly dynamics. In China, the construction of aircraft carriers and SSGNs is now in full swing and what do you have ???
    And you????
  28. svp67
    svp67 14 December 2013 15: 25
    0
    Last week, China announced an additional expansion of the air defense zone.
    US airlines said they would notify China about flights in the air defense zone, as requested by the PRC. Korea and Japan have ordered their airlines to ignore the new rules.
    On November 28, the Japanese and South Korean airplanes had already crossed the air defense zone without warning, without meeting any reaction from the PRC.

    Or China now needs to admit its weakness and retreat or "plant", or specifically shoot down planes in the restricted area ...
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 14 December 2013 16: 27
    0
    The US Navy in practice checks how much China has the ability to protect this zone. The tactics are well known. The worst thing for China would be to swallow such a slap from the US Navy. But this is only the beginning, remember at least the story of the confrontation between the US Navy and the USSR in the same Black Sea!
  30. saag
    saag 14 December 2013 16: 54
    0
    Quote: knn54
    VARYAG ("Liaoning"), even among the Chinese, is ready to make a breakthrough!

    As the ship says, you’ll call it
  31. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 December 2013 17: 05
    0
    Well, with the Yankees, it’s clear that the jeepies made in China are buggy. and the Chinese just wanted to carry out warranty repairs of failed Amerian equipment wassat
  32. vadutc
    vadutc 14 December 2013 17: 24
    0
    The United States has a long history of "love" for narrow-eyed)
  33. sokoloff4791
    sokoloff4791 14 December 2013 18: 25
    0
    cool kptaytsy started trolling the mattress))))))))))))
  34. homosum20
    homosum20 14 December 2013 19: 21
    +1
    Americans jump. For 6 years of civilization, China has seen all sorts of opponents and a variety of countermeasures. Americans have a history of 000 years - 300 times less. And there is only one technique - directly and straight ahead. In this case, they can break off.
  35. Leshka
    Leshka 14 December 2013 19: 43
    0
    a little more and the matter ended differently
  36. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 14 December 2013 20: 17
    +1
    Our school! Give China a pounce (hitting) on ​​amers !!! :))
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  38. ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 14 December 2013 21: 42
    +1
    Well, here the Americans in vain sour their muzzle ... in such situations, when escorting aircraft carriers, their escort ships throw out and worse forteli ... they can open fire to kill if they did not obey their American orders ... and they wanted to spit on "open sea ​​"etc ..
    So, what did the Chinese do right here, well done!
  39. shalk
    shalk 14 December 2013 23: 03
    0
    Quote: Fantik
    We will not be able to cope with the US fleet, which means we can say that we do not have a fleet at all, we will not fight with the Papuans, they are not our potential adversary.


    In the modern world, the use of the fleet is only possible against the Papuans. How do you imagine the battle of the fleets? And what coast will the victorious fleet then cling to? Will there be any shores?
  40. KuzmichDP
    KuzmichDP 15 December 2013 00: 55
    +1
    Quote: And Us Rat
    Quote: Victor-M
    Quote: BBM
    what do you have ???

    And in our apartment there is gas! And you...

    Yanukovych pi ... dog wassat

    Yes, still what! wassat wassat wassat drinks
  41. Sterlya
    Sterlya 15 December 2013 02: 50
    0
    The Chinese in one well done. They sneezed on all the notes of the democrats.
    And each time they make them yield more and more.
    So you yourself see who is growing. who is falling
  42. daem00n
    daem00n 15 December 2013 20: 01
    0
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    With us, the farther the better. The rearmament of the army, aviation, navy, East Kazakhstan region is in full swing. The latest ICBMs and other and other are being developed and built. Our people are getting richer without noticing it. Ordinary people of working specialties have several cars, people go abroad to rest. Come see for yourself. Russia, unlike your beloved geyropa, does not have pederasts, they are simply forbidden in our country, since they will not call a good man a fagot. In addition, if you familiarize yourself with the materials of the site www.sdelanounas.ru, you will see that our business is much better than in the Holocaust geyropa, which has neither the resources nor the serious industries that were launched by Southeast Asia.

    Well, and "and we have gas in our apartment, and you"?

    GAS is not with you ... Mr. Pu and Co. have it