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China is fighting for supremacy in the sky

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China is fighting for supremacy in the skyLargely thanks to deliveries from Russia and the establishment of licensed and then independent production of fourth and 4+ generation aircraft of Russian design, the process of modernizing the PLA Air Force in the late XX - early XXI centuries was carried out at the fastest pace and with the highest efficiency. In the short and medium term, the PRC will limit its air force fleet, which is optimal for a major industrialized power, with a total number of 1000 combat aircraft. At the same time, the main attention will be paid to increasing the share of aviation complexes of 4+ and 5th generations up to 70 - 80 percent.


MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE

The PLA Air Force is headed by the commander-in-chief, who is one of the deputy defense ministers of the PRC. The total strength of the Air Force personnel is approximately 330 thousand people.

The main aviation branches are fighter, fighter-bomber, bomber, military transport and reconnaissance. The PLA Air Force also includes ground-based air defense forces, including the formation of anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRS) and barreled anti-aircraft artillery, as well as airborne troops *.

The operational association of the PLA Air Force is the Air Army, which includes several formations and units. A tactical unit is an air division, it consists of three air regiments, an air regiment of three squadrons, a squadron of three links, a link of four to five aircraft.

The air force is divided into groups that are part of the seven military districts. The number of divisions in the military district depends on the size of the latter. For example, in the largest of them - Guangzhou and Shenyansky - there are seven air divisions each.

STRUCTURE OF AVIATION PARK

During the period from 1995 to 2012, the number of Air Force personnel decreased from 400 to 330 thousand people. The total number of combat aircraft has decreased from 5300 to 1693. The number of bombers reduced from 630 to 82. Significant changes in quantitative and qualitative terms occurred in the fighter-bomber and ground attack aircraft. Aircraft support troops (direct aviation support) Q-5 were withdrawn from its structure, of which 1995 units were counted in 500 in the year, and in the Q-5C / D / E modification to 2005, the year remained to 300 units. In 2012, there were 99 reconnaissance aircraft JZ-8F.

Front-line fighter aircraft from 1985 to 2012 year was reduced from 4000 to 890 machines. Airplanes of the second and partly of the third generation were withdrawn from service. In total, the Air Force has 33 air divisions: three bomber, four fighter-bomber, 24 fighter and two transport.

STRONGER AVIATION

Despite the fact that a fairly significant number of third-generation fighters such as Jian-8 (552 units) remain in the fighter aircraft fleet, the basis of its combat power is made up of light Jiang-10 and heavy Su-27 multi-purpose fighters made in Russia and China. The latter received the Chinese designation Jian-11. As well as imported from Russia multi-purpose aircraft Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2. Su-27SK (Jian-11) of different modifications belongs to 4-generation airplanes, while Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 are considered as aircraft of the “4 +” generation.

There were 2012 units in the 340 aircraft fleet in the year, of which: Jian-10А / S - more than 200, Jian-11В / ВS - more than 70, purchased in Russia Su-30МКК - 73, Su-27SK - 43 units. In terms of the number of groups of fourth and "4 +" planes, the PRC generation ranks second in the world after the United States, overtaking Russia, which has no more than 230 of such machines.

MULTIFUNCTIONAL FIGHTERS JIAN-10 AND JIAN-11

In the middle of the 80-s of the last century, the People's Republic of China adopted a program to develop a new 4-generation fighter. In the future, the specified technical task directed the efforts of Chinese developers towards the creation of a multi-functional machine. Russian specialists were involved in the project. Subsequently, Russia began to supply advanced equipment of this type, the AL-10 FN with 31 kg, to equip the Jian-12700 and its modifications to the People's Republic of China. The first flight of Jian-10 took place on 22 March, March 1998. After the completion of the full cycle of state tests in July 2004, he began to enter into service with the PLA Air Force.

The main tactical, technical and flight characteristics of the Jian-10 multi-role fighter: maximum take-off weight 19277 kg, maximum speed 2,2 M, combat radius with refueling in air 1600 km, without refueling in air - 550 km. The aircraft has 11 suspension assemblies. It is equipped with a wide range of weapons, can carry a combat load up to 6000 kg. Gun-guns are represented by the built-in 30-mm automatic cannon. The aircraft has a modern on-board radio-electronic equipment (avionics): an armament control system including an integrated NPIET KL-10 radar sighting system with an on-board phased-array radar, as well as an optical radar station. It can be equipped with ventral containers for various purposes.

The most modern machines in the PLA Air Force fleet are the Su-27 and Su-30 aircraft, delivered from Russia or manufactured under a Russian license. The development of their production technology in China for a decade reduced the cycle of creating aircraft 4-th generation. In 1998, with the help of Russian specialists and according to the Russian project, the workshops at the aircraft building plant in the city of Shenyang were re-equipped for the licensed assembly of aircraft of this type. Several groups of Chinese engineers and technicians have been practicing at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Production Association named after Yu.A. Gagarin.

The licensed program, designed for 10 years, provided for the assembly of 200 aircraft in the PRC, 105 of which was to be assembled from vehicle sets supplied from Russia. However, the Chinese side, in violation of contractual obligations after the assembly of the first batch of aircraft, refused to continue the production of aircraft from Russian components, adjusting their domestic production completely. The independent Chinese version of the Su-27SK received the designation Jian-11. In the future, China, refusing the help of Russian specialists, began to develop and modernize Jian-11. All innovations make it possible in the first approximation to assign the multi-functional fighter Jian-11В to the generation “4 +”.

With 2007, the small-scale production of the aircraft in this configuration began, and it entered service with the PLA Air Force. However, due to a number of problems associated with the operation of the machine, mainly related to the WS-10 engine, which had a very low resource-free operation, it was decided to re-equip both previously produced and under construction aircraft of this modification by the Russian AL-31F engines.

The work on the creation of Jian-10, as well as the establishment of licensed production of Jian-11А in China and the further independent development of the basic model, created a powerful foundation to begin research and development on the design of a fifth-generation multi-purpose fighter. Successful implementation of this project will provide China with the opportunity to become one of the great aviation powers of the world.

The prototype of the aircraft was first shown in January 2011 of the year during the official visit to the PRC of US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. According to aviation experts, the appearance and layout of the new Chinese multifunctional fighter under the designation Jian-20 is in many ways reminiscent of the multifunctional fighter of the Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (RSK) MiG MFI 1.42. It is assumed that MiG specialists who participated in the development program for FC-1 and Chien-10 could have prevented the leakage of information on the 1.42 MFIs.

October 31 2012, the prototype of the lighter 5 generation Jian-31, similar to the American F-35 Lightning, was lifted into the air. It is intended to ensure air supremacy and to destroy land and sea targets. It is assumed that at its base will be created deck option for basing on aircraft carriers.

Currently, Beijing is negotiating the purchase of a batch of 26 ++ Russian Su-4 multi-role 35 fighter jets from 30, which is a transitional model between the latest version of the 5 Su and the promising T-50 35 generation aircraft. Having received the Su-20, China will be able to solve two tasks: on the one hand, before adopting Jian-22, to form an aviation group capable of almost equally opposing the American F-35 and F-XNUMX, and on the other, copying those systems and units of the Russian aircraft that bring it to the fifth generation.

Bombing Aviation

After the decommissioning of morally and physically obsolete fighter-bomber (attack aircraft) Nanchang Q-5 is practically the only representative of this kind of aircraft in the PLA Air Force is the 3 + generation Chien-Hung-7 in several modifications.

This type of machine was developed and adopted by the PLA Air Force during the period of the most intensive development of military-technical cooperation with the West. In appearance, layout and armament, the basic version of the aircraft is similar to the Anglo-French SEPECAT Jaguar. The first test sample of the aircraft took off in December 1988 of the year. In 2003, after significant revision, aircraft of this type, known as Block 2, were adopted by the Air Force. A later modification of the Jian-Hung-7A machine, capable of applying high precision weapon, entered the PLA Air Force combat units in 2004 year. In terms of combat capabilities, Jian-Hung 7А roughly corresponds to Panavia Tornado. It is believed that Jian-Hung-7 cannot withstand modern fighters on equal terms. They take part in almost all the peace missions of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), including the last 2013 in August.

EDUCATIONAL AVIATION

This kind of PLA Air Force is represented by the only type of reconnaissance aircraft JZ-8F. In 2012, their numbers were 99 units. In addition, eight long-range radar detection and control aircraft (AEWS) were adopted, in particular, four KJ-2000 and KJ-200. The Soviet military transport aircraft IL-200 MD was used as an air platform of the KJ-76 complex.

BOMBARD AVIATION

Bomber aviation is the main attack tool of the PLA Air Force. After the withdrawal of Xian Hoon-5 front-line bombers (Chinese replica of the famous Soviet IL-28) from the line-up, the only Xian Hoon-6 bomber, which can be called long-range, remained the only representative of bomber aviation in the Air Force. The release of the aircraft Hun-6 stopped on the grounds that they are not able to overcome modern air defense and guaranteed to deliver to the target bombs. Part of the aircraft Hun-6 bomber versions was finalized in the interests of its use as a tanker.

With the development of cruise missiles for various purposes in China, the Hong-6 aircraft were able to be used as missile carriers that could launch missiles without entering the air defense zone and fighters of a potential enemy. In the anti-ship variant they are capable of striking the ships belonging to the carrier strike group (AUG).

In 2006, the serial production of such anti-aircraft aircraft in the Hun-6M version was adjusted. They were equipped with search radar "type 245" and four underwing nodes of the CJ YJ-83 / YJ-62 suspension system (C803 / C602). According to some sources, the aircraft of this type is equipped with a system for following the terrain and in order to overcome the air defense system has the ability to fly at ultra-low altitudes. To increase the combat radius on it, an additional fuel tank was installed on the site of the bomb bay. In the Hun-6H version, the aircraft could be equipped with two KD-63 anti-ship missiles or advanced KD-88 cruise missiles.

In January, 2007, the newest carrier of the new-version Hun-6K cruise missiles with six underwing assemblies was lifted into the air. Thanks to the installation of two Russian turbojet D-30KP-20 engines manufactured by NPO Saturn, both the combat radius of the aircraft, which reached 3500 km, and its combat load, was increased.

The missile carriers of the Hoon-6 K and Hoon-6 M modifications are intended to perform two main tasks, namely: to launch nuclear strikes against strategic targets that are within the theater of military operations; and to destroy the AUG of the United States Navy at distant approaches to the waters of Taiwan. At the same time, it is planned that they will strike in groups in numbers from the squadron to the regiment. Their actions can be provided by DRLOU aircraft and hide behind jamming aircraft. Air-launched cruise missiles will be launched outside the zone of operation of air defense weapons and enemy fighter aircraft.

By the end of 2012, the Air Force had 82 Hun-6 of the latest modifications. In parallel with the modernization and development of Hun-6, Chinese specialists are conducting intensive research and development on the development of strategic rocket carriers of the new generation of Hun-8 and Hun-10. According to American sources, there are many elements in the design of both bombers borrowed from American aircraft B-2 Spirit and F-117. This is due, in particular, to the fact that Chinese designers managed to copy some of the American developments in the field of stealth technology due to the B-2 design documentation obtained by Chinese intelligence and cyber formations, as well as the study of fragments of an invisible fighter shot down by Yugoslav means of air defense F -117, which were subsequently transferred to China.

MILITARY TRANSPORT AVIATION

Chinese military theorists have concluded that as China’s economic and political influence in the world increases, its national interests become global in scope. Accordingly, the role of its Armed Forces is expanding, as well as the provision of China’s national security with military means should be able to protect these interests in remote regions of the globe. In addition, such capabilities are necessary for China to perform peacekeeping and other functions. The solution of all these tasks in the shortest possible time can be achieved mainly with the help of transport aviation, much of which in the PRC is part of the PLA Military Transport Aviation.

In the middle of 2012, the PLA military transport aviation had more than 320 aircraft. Compared to 1995, when it had the maximum number of aircraft, namely 600 units, the number of aircraft fleet BTA decreased by 280 aircraft due to the cancellation of morally and physically obsolete 1-th and 2-th generation, such as the Soviet " An-12 ”,“ Lee-2 ”,“ Il-14 ”,“ Il-18 ”, American -“ Bae Trident 1E / 2E ”. As a result, the third-generation Russian-made and domestic-made airplanes remained in the BTA PLA Air Force, of which: IL-76-10 units, Yun-8 heavy vehicles of various modifications — 53 units; medium - Tu-154-12 units., Tu-154MD - 4 units; lungs: Yun-11-20 units., Yun-12-8 units., Yun-5-17 units.

China pays special attention to the creation of heavy military-technical cooperation, multi-purpose air tankers and special purpose aircraft of its own design and production. Specialists from the ASTC named after O.K. Antonov, who provide Chinese colleagues with technical assistance in the development of heavy military-technical cooperation Yun-9. In terms of its flight and tactical and technical characteristics, it significantly surpasses both the PLA Air Force and the Yun-8 series aircraft with four WJ-6C turboprop engines, and the American C-130 “Hercules” machine widely used in the world, exported .

Helicopter regiments are a powerful addition to the Chinese Air Force. Reuters Photos
Significant success Chinese developers have achieved in the creation of a military transport aircraft (MTC) with the turbofan engines. Flight tests began of the first prototype of the heavy military-technical model Yun-20, which was first lifted into the air on January 26 2013. The new Chinese car has a take-off weight of more than 200 tons, a payload mass of 66 tons, has a fuselage length of 47 meters, a wingspan of 45 m, and a height of 15 m. Its configuration has a certain similarity to the American Boeing C-17 Globemaster and Russian IL-76. In a number of Western publications, information has passed that the wing design for Yun-20 and the technology for its production have been developed by the Ukrainian aircraft-building concern Antonov. According to Russian experts, Yun-20 is based on the unrealized project of the Soviet heavy military transport aircraft An-170. According to Chinese media reports, the new transporter surpasses the Russian IL-76MD series in all respects and corresponds to the deeply modernized IL-76MD-90А aircraft in terms of its main characteristics, and surpasses it in some of them.

At the same time, Chinese specialists are actively working on the creation of new high-performance turbofan engines, such as WS-18 and WS-20. Prior to their creation, Yun-20 will be equipped with Russian engines D-30KP2.

ARMAMENT PLANES

A serious impetus to the development and production of our own fairly advanced air-to-air missile systems was given when Chinese specialists gained access to missile armament for the Su-27 fighters manufactured under the Russian license and the Su-30MKK and Su imported from Russia. -30MK2 presented by the air-to-air UR P-27Р1 (ER1), P-27P (EP), P-27Т1 (ЭТ1), Р-27П (EP), Р-73Э and РВ XRN-77-ETNNXX, Р-XNUMXП (ЭП), Р-XNUMXЕ and РВ-РН-XNUMX and Р-XNUMX (ЭХXNUMX) ).

Synthesizing previously obtained Western technologies and Russian developments, the Chinese designers created a line of their own modern short-range, medium and long-range SDs such as PL-5 modifications A, D, C, E, comparable in tactical and technical characteristics with American SD AIM-9H, AIM-9L or AIM-9P, PL8. The rocket design and tactical and technical characteristics similar to the US MVDA AIM-132. Its peculiarity is that the fuel is virtually smokeless and does not leave an inertial trace, which makes it difficult to visually detect the missile. Medium-range SD include PL-11 and its improved version PL-11B with active radar homing head (РГСН) AMR-1, as well as PL-12 of various modifications. The PL-12 base rocket has an active end-guidance radar system and has a maximum range of applications up to 60 - 80 km.

Its modifications are represented by the PL12B / C / D missiles. The latest PL12D is the most advanced, representing an SD with active radar homing, optimized for placement on the internal suspension points of promising 5-generation aircraft systems, created using the stealth technology.

Long-range missiles are represented by the PL-15 multi-purpose air-to-air and air-to-radar missile. In terms of weight and dimensions, it resembles the latest modifications of the PL-12 rocket; it has an active-passive homing head and equipment that provides a two-way line of data exchange with the aircraft carrier. The maximum range of the rocket is about 100 km. At the final stage of development, the Chinese PL-21 ultra-long-range UD is being developed with a promising direct-flow rocket engine providing a range of applications up to 150 - 200 km.

Air-to-surface aircraft armament designed to equip Jiang-11B multi-purpose fighters is represented by the KD-88 guided missile, which is a development of the Russian SS of the same class X-29ТE. The means of destruction of targets located on the surface of the earth also include freely falling (gravitational) and adjustable bombs up to 500 kg with laser guidance and bomb cassettes that are included in the Jian-11 weapon system.

Missiles bomber aircraft represented by line anti-ship missiles (RCC) YJ-6 (C-601) KD-63, C-301, C-101, YJ-82, YJ-83 / YJ-62 (C803), C602, designed to equip long-range bomber Han-6 latest modifications. Chinese developers are paying serious attention to the creation of air-based cruise missiles for various purposes. The most advanced of them at the present time is a long-range air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) CJ-10A long-range (2500 km). She may have a nuclear warhead.

COMBAT TRAINING

The goals and objectives of training and combat training in the new conditions were specified in the Basic Principles of Military Training and Evaluation adopted in 2009. This document emphasizes that the main emphasis of combat training of military personnel should be on joint operations, with the participation of all types of troops (troops), joint training, joint training, which should be aimed at training military men (commanders) having a flexible strategic thinking and operational talent, allowing for effective joint operations in network-centric wars.

The Basic Principles outlines four guiding principles: adapt to the revolutionary changes taking place in military affairs; prepare for the violent obstruction of the proclamation of independence of Taiwan; actively integrate advanced weapons and military equipment; in the course of planning, organizing and conducting exercises (training sessions), do not reduce their realism for the sake of ensuring greater safety.

New training programs have been developed for air academies and flight schools, as well as short-term refresher courses, in which up to 60 percent of military personnel are trained. In accordance with these programs, the time spent on flight training, as well as the duration of tactical exercises during one flight, have been increased.

The number of training and combat aircraft from 2005 has increased approximately 2,5 times. During the flight training, the new L-15 training and combat aircraft, developed with the participation of Russian specialists, were actively used. The annual flight time of fighter, fighter-bomber and bomber aviation pilots reached 150 hours, and military transport more than 200 hours. At the same time, the number of exercises performed during one training flight increased. If earlier only one or two educational tasks were set, now there are three - four. For example, the development of elements of long-range air missile combat and close maneuverable air combat with the use of rocket and small arms weapons; practicing the skills of conducting fire, jamming and maneuverable counteraction against air defense weapons; practicing the skills of searching for, detecting ground (sea) mobile and stationary targets, accomplishing aiming and using guided and uncontrolled aviation weapons.

In the interests of combat training and education, joint exercises of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) member countries, as well as drills and exercises on a bilateral basis, are also actively used. In all SCO “Peaceful Mission” exercises, starting from 2003, a group of Chinese aviation was involved, which included, in addition to army helicopters Z-9 and Mi-17, a division of Jian-Hung 7A Flying Leopard fighter-bombers. The last exercise, held in Russia from 27 July to 15 August 2013, was also attended by fighters-bombers of this type from the 31-th aviation regiment of the 11-th aviation division of the Shenyang military district.

BASE SYSTEM

The Air Force has an extensive airfield network with more than 400 airfields, of which 350 has a hard surface. Their operational capacity makes it possible to provide with excess not only the permanent basing of assigned aviation units (formations) and their dispersal in the event of a threat of enemy attack, but also the ability to disperse aviation groups after their operational deployment. As a rule, an aviation regiment is based at each aerodrome, less often an aircraft division with a predominance of the same type of aircraft. This facilitates their maintenance and pre-flight training.

The main aerodrome and two to three aerodromes of dispersal with their infrastructure constitute the aviation base, which is an integral part of the logistics system. The personnel of the bases ensures the operational readiness of aerodromes, solves the tasks of logistics, technical and certain types of combat support.

Given the presence of an extensive aerodrome network, which makes it possible to maneuver forces and means of aviation, China can now achieve more than twice the numerical superiority in aviation over any potential adversary and in any strategic direction along the perimeter of national borders.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 14 December 2013 13: 38 New
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    China has only one flight personnel more than we have the officer corps in the Ministry of Defense. So, the new Minister of Defense needs to draw conclusions !!! After the collapse of Serdyukov’s Air Force academies and flight schools, everything needs to be restored from scratch! the destruction of what our grandfathers created for decades !!! And now we have to create everything and spend huge amounts of money on restoration, but the most important loss is the faculty of these institutions !!!
    1. major071
      major071 15 December 2013 07: 25 New
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      In, damn it, after reading the phrase:
      The total strength of the Air Force is approximately 330 thousand people.
      in general, ofigel, that's how you and the neighbor, who has only 330 thousand in the Air Force. Now I'm afraid to ask, how many in the ground? stop
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 15 December 2013 07: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: major071
        Now I'm afraid to ask, but how many in land?

        the other two lard fellow
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 December 2013 07: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: major071
        Now I'm afraid to ask, but how many in land?

        Mobilization resource 200 million head laughing . Considering that if we take them to the poplars at 1 million per day, the Chinese population will be reduced to 1 billion people in a year. The victory will be ours wassat
        1. major071
          major071 15 December 2013 08: 00 New
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          Alexander! After your post, I suddenly had a desire that in each courtyard of the inhabitants of the Far East there would be at least one "Poplar" good
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 December 2013 08: 05 New
            +6
            Quote: major071
            so that in each courtyard of the inhabitants of the Far East there would be at least one "Topol"

            I have 30 of them in the yard, but the sense of themlaughing
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 15 December 2013 08: 12 New
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              really useless from them

              but what about the fluff? is it really good for nothing? recourse
      3. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 15 December 2013 15: 20 New
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        Quote: major071
        In, damn it, after reading the phrase:
        The total strength of the Air Force is approximately 330 thousand people.
        in general, ofigel, that's how you and the neighbor, who has only 330 thousand in the Air Force. Now I'm afraid to ask, how many in the ground? stop


        2 390 000 people in active service; Legislation provides for military duty for men from 18 years of age; Volunteers are accepted until 49 years. The age limit for a soldier in an army reserve is 50 years. In wartime, theoretically (without taking into account restrictions on material support), up to 400 000 000 people can be mobilized. Moreover, de facto - selection in the PLA, even for the most unprincipled positions - on a competitive basis, a couple of dozen people per place, that is, we are talking about 2 390 000 people who are qualitatively and intellectually - the cream of Chinese society.

        Interesting Facts:

        - The PLA cannot serve those young people on whose body there are tattoos. The ban included tattoos with a diameter larger than 2 cm, located on the "visible" parts of the body (given the shirt with a short sleeve), as well as more than 3 cm - in places hidden under clothing. According to authorities, any tattoos on the body of a rookie spoil the image of the “most powerful and disciplined” army in the world.

        - According to the 2006 directive of the year, the country's military schools are now closed to those who suffer from snoring. “Permanent snoring can disrupt the normal life of other cadets and adversely affect their military training,” the new rules for admission to military schools say.
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 15 December 2013 07: 33 New
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      AVV (1)
      After the collapse of Serdyukov Air Force Academy, flight schools, you need to restore everything from scratch!
      I wrote off one money for the destruction of what our grandfathers created for decades !!!
      And now you have to create everything and spend huge amounts of money on restoration ...


      Oh, for such criminal acts to Serdyukov and the Campaign during the time of Stalin, Joseph Vissarionovich, he clearly shone.
      And now when the liberals are in power, they have destroyed not only the Air Force and the army, censure and appointment to a new bread place.
      Ugh damn it, "effective managers" and "reformers" have annoyed everyone and everything.
      1. major071
        major071 15 December 2013 07: 46 New
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        Meehan will now wake up and voice his opinion on "effective" and "reformers." laughing
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 15 December 2013 11: 59 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Oh, for such criminal acts to Serdyukov and the Campaign during the time of Stalin, Joseph Vissarionovich, he clearly shone.

        The trouble is that Stalin died. In order for a new Stalin to appear, he must first make his way through the media filters so that the people know about him and come to power with the support of the people.
        As for "The Celestial Empire is fighting for domination in the sky" - it is already successfully fighting for domination in space!
        "MOSCOW, December 15 - RIA Novosti. The Chinese lunar rover" Yuytu "(" Jade Hare ") on Sunday undocked from the lander, which carried out a soft landing on the moon a few hours ago, and left the satellite surface,

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/space/20131215/984158225.html#ixzz2nWxGSygk
        "
        And you all dream about Poplars in the yard - you can dream for a long time until the oil runs out. Then the dreams will end and harsh reality will come ...
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 15 December 2013 12: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Oh, for such criminal acts to Serdyukov and the Campaign during the time of Stalin, Joseph Vissarionovich, he clearly shone.

        they would be shot right after birth ...
    3. alone
      alone 15 December 2013 11: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: AVV
      China has only one flight personnel more than we have the composition of the officer corps in the Ministry of Defense. So, the new Minister of Defense needs to draw conclusions !!! After the collapse of Serdyukov’s Air Force academies and flight schools, everything needs to be restored from scratch!


      it takes time to restore all this. time does not wait. China has already overtaken Russia in the number of 4+ class fighters and this gap will widen every day. Unlike Russia, the military-industrial complex is not in the hands of effective managers.
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 December 2013 07: 20 New
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    in stamp on our dvigunami. it’s scary to imagine what will happen when they themselves begin to move request
  3. makarov
    makarov 15 December 2013 07: 34 New
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    The Chinese are in a hurry. They are in a hurry. So there is much to hurry. In all, PLANNED events are brewing ahead. Question 0 which side of the "ball" will they take place?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 December 2013 08: 02 New
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      Quote: makarov
      Question 0 which side of the "ball" will they take place?

      Not one country in the world will be on the sidelines. Theater of combat operations the whole world hi
  4. Tatarus
    Tatarus 15 December 2013 08: 17 New
    +7
    For China, of course, I’m glad, but not very much for China. And after all, all of their aviation with our assistance.
    Not long ago there was an article about the fleet. The same everyone who paid was armed. And now we don't need to talk about the preserved technologies and industries. Empty it. We have saved capacities and a donut hole, China has merged technologies and the second after the USA air fleet. Truly "Helping your neighbor build a house do not destroy yours"
  5. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 15 December 2013 09: 18 New
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    Quote: At present, China can achieve more than twofold numerical superiority in aviation over any potential adversary and in any strategic direction along the perimeter of national borders.

    Russia, with its own hands, contributes to the creation (near by itself) of a powerful aviation potential of its eastern neighbor. And given the historical experience, not always friendly towards us. Increasingly, worried Russian politicians are calling for attention to the growing power of the Chinese dragon. But the country's leadership does not seem to sense an increasing threat.
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 December 2013 10: 16 New
    +4
    The little dragon shows the teeth. The only question is that when he grows up, whom will he start to bite?
  7. saag
    saag 15 December 2013 10: 23 New
    +4
    Looks like an idea will come to someone to order 500 pieces of aircraft to China, they will do it in six months :-)
  8. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 15 December 2013 11: 21 New
    0
    Comrades, do not panic! Even in this article it is written that the number of aircraft will be 1630 units. but most likely even less. Total we get for one la for more than 20 people. For comparison, we have about 2000 aircraft and 7000 people, by the year 20 there will be 10000. So, the number of personnel suggests that at least half of it has a distant relation to aviation. Maybe the planes can be rolled by hand. The United States can not be cited as an example, since more than a third of the army, including strategic nuclear forces, belongs to the air force.
    1. standby
      standby 15 December 2013 13: 26 New
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      Panic, really not worth it! Do not forget that we have powerful air defense systems and, in the visible future, China will not stamp more aircraft than anti-aircraft missiles! laughing
  9. mountain
    mountain 15 December 2013 11: 22 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: major071
    so that in each courtyard of the inhabitants of the Far East there would be at least one "Topol"

    I have 30 of them in the yard, but the sense of themlaughing

    And I have poplars but old ones, it's time to update, but the pines and birches, like new. I’m already afraid to give suggestions, they were busy the last time.))) And yet, for each site in the high-rise building on the tank, the crew is ready and the succession of generations. Thus, a lot of things can be distributed. One hope for all the Chinese they don’t have enough weapons in hand to hand will go. What do you need to do?
  10. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 15 December 2013 11: 38 New
    +4
    However, there are no miracles, in the presence of some progress, the Chinese army still needs to really look at things. The Air Force also takes into account air defense, with serious superiority in people the superiority in technology is not so strong, which indicates a different organizational structure and yet about not dimensionless financial opportunities, a new weapon is expensive. You can look at their reserves but we must take into account that from this they feed 10 times more people. China needs an army at its quarrel with all its neighbors, and it is extremely unlikely that in case of war he will have to fight on one front, perhaps the least problems they have with the North so far. But Russians are unpredictable request
  11. saag
    saag 15 December 2013 12: 00 New
    +3
    By 2050, China plans to build a military base on the moon, then they will make an extension, another. a greenhouse there, another, by 2080, the initial design of the base will be forgotten and there will be a shopping and entertainment center with adjacent residential areas, clothing markets, agricultural plots. To reduce the cost of shuttle flights Earth-Moon-Earth, electromagnetic catapults will be built
    1. 0255
      0255 15 December 2013 12: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: saag
      By 2050, China plans to build a military base on the moon, then they will make an extension, another. a greenhouse there, another, by 2080, the initial design of the base will be forgotten and there will be a shopping and entertainment center with adjacent residential areas, clothing markets, agricultural plots. To reduce the cost of shuttle flights Earth-Moon-Earth, electromagnetic catapults will be built

      Do not worry, those extraterrestrial forces that almost frightened the American cosmonauts to the moon in 1971 will not allow this laughing [joke]
      1. saag
        saag 15 December 2013 12: 45 New
        +2
        And that Bigelow wanted to build an inflatable hotel on the Moon. here I bet. as soon as the Chinese build the first hotel there, everyone else will climb there. New types of pleasure, for example, to drink whiskey in one gulp on the earth and on the Moon are two big differences, on the Moon it is due to less gravity a pleasure stretched in time or a jump into the pool from a 10-meter tower, and c_ex on the Moon, how much is still unknown, The main thing is the initial impulse :-)
    2. Victor-M
      Victor-M 15 December 2013 21: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: saag
      By 2050, China plans to build a military base on the moon, then they will make an extension, another. the greenhouse there, another

      Soon we will try moon cucumbers, if only then they would not blow their heads. wassat
  12. Altona
    Altona 15 December 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    Interestingly, do we buy anything from China from armaments for comparison? For some reason, I was interested in the Chinese missile systems, which they copied from the Americans ...
    As for Chinese aviation, I think that the first echelon of a possible attack will be strike drones and outdated aircraft to bleed the air defense missile reserve ... In addition, while the PLA air force fighters have a small shoulder of patrol without refueling, they still can not carry additional hanging tanks ..
    1. standby
      standby 15 December 2013 19: 21 New
      +1
      We have them almost all MiG-23s in the early 90s, just for "one way flight"! Although they still have junk in bulk, it still seems to me that they will prepare for the war of technologies and will get involved in it only with their overwhelming superiority, not only human, of course!)
  13. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 15 December 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    Minus please argue. Preferably with numbers. Maybe I'm wrong.
    1. VAF
      VAF 15 December 2013 16: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      Minus please argue


      I will not .. from the principle soldier How much can we say, we don’t have 2000 aircraft, let alone combat-ready ones, even if we take into account all the Yak-130, BTA aircraft and ... gliders!
      And the pilots are the same .. so much no, already! soldier

      And do not confuse our "concepts" - entered service .. this is a hat!

      Here, with amers, everything correctly entered the Air Force and ... it is expected that it will be accepted (or transferred) to a state of operational readiness (that is, the ability to conduct hostilities).
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 15 December 2013 13: 09 New
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    Interestingly, what does the word "Jian" mean? repeat I mean, who has "Jian", well or so, in general?
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 15 December 2013 14: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Stiletto
      Interestingly, what does the word "Jian" mean?

      Long, approx. meters, a straight sword.
  15. AZB15
    AZB15 15 December 2013 13: 16 New
    +4
    Every year, more and more anecdote comes to mind: "2050. Everything is calm on the Sino-Finnish border." Apparently, but for me as a resident of Fr. Sakhalin, it can be seen with the naked eye - it will be so, they beat!
  16. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 15 December 2013 13: 35 New
    +3
    I believe that the state should have military secrets. The latest developments should not be for sale, their existence in general should be kept secret. As new ones develop, older secrets are revealed as fresh. Growing up a baby in a neighboring yard, one must not forget about the need to have a good fence. hi
  17. standby
    standby 15 December 2013 13: 47 New
    +4
    The saddest thing is that the Chinese are now literally taking on everything technologically, while continuing to borrow technology, they have already achieved a lot, and they have no competitors in terms of the speed of their implementation. So really, it will be much more dangerous when they learn how to make competent engines ... Pen .. we already regretted that they concentrated their production on them! And the fact that we supplied them with airplanes and air defense systems was, at all risks, completely justified, and saved our industry in many ways!
  18. komel
    komel 15 December 2013 13: 50 New
    +2
    Yun-20 was another important step in the rise of China. The significance of this aircraft for the Chinese Air Force and national interests are taking on a global scale.

    Aircraft Y-20 is designed for the transport of goods weighing up to 66 tons. The practical ceiling of the Chinese aircraft is 13 thousand meters. Probably, the military transport aircraft Xian Y-20 can reach speeds of up to 830 kilometers per hour and, when fully loaded, fly to a distance of up to 4,4 thousand kilometers.
    1. saag
      saag 15 December 2013 13: 53 New
      0
      IL-86 natural
  19. Ducksar
    Ducksar 15 December 2013 14: 14 New
    +3
    The road will be overpowered by the going, China understands this perfectly! Not quite comfortable for us, that's all ...
  20. FlyEngine
    FlyEngine 15 December 2013 15: 25 New
    +2
    Photos of their parades resemble marches of the clone army)
    Like incubator.
  21. Federal
    Federal 15 December 2013 15: 51 New
    +5
    China, in principle, stops and is destroyed by one small salvo of ICBMs up to 500 RF along the southeastern coastal part, and then by a barrier fence of Iskander points at and KR of any basing, but you need to be extremely careful with this dzian, is it cold in Siberia? They will climb, climb, a matter of time, when the question will either die in its hungry steppes or cross the border and live colder but with a well-fed belly, the answer is obvious, Khramchikhin is right, the geropa is a props, plus the people there are more than adequate, but the Jians and Huimendins are , this is a problem ... to immediately increase the potential of Iskander with a special unit and further combat capability, in the rear of the hordes of barbarians, the rest will be completed by ICBMs and conventional troops, held back and then exterminated in groups. Bam expand, immediately increase tactical weaponry across the entire line of troops. Only sell old technologies with a bookmark, they won't make engines even for 20 years, there is no school, so grandmothers from narrow-eyed people will go all the same, they sell su 35 in vain, or simplify it to indecency when selling, this is for setting up from su 27 2000s, for everything has to be paid, they will be respected, especially since China is no longer a sales market, it is a competitor, and without a pair of lards, Russia will not die, but will get an ace in the air and a head start of 10 years. This is all dzian and hun 20, even though 100 will not fly normally , with a pine forest floor, get Russo amerskaya turd in a Chinese wrapper, even if you call it 6th generation. It's time to turn on Pute's brains about the "partners" of tea, not to eat it full ...
  22. Megre
    Megre 15 December 2013 18: 29 New
    +2
    According to the predictions of Orthodox saints, China will conquer us right up to the Urals. It is not too late to focus on tactical nuclear weapons (including nuclear mines). Create powerful aviation groups, restore fortified areas. Showing the Chinese people that if they win, they will get the nuclear desert. Although so far in the Kremlin, traitors are all empty wishes. It was these Judas who armed the Chinayoz with our own weapons.
    PS And the Sino-lunar rover has already begun to crawl along the moon. Bad sign. I was hoping he would be screwed up before the moon .....
  23. avg
    avg 15 December 2013 18: 50 New
    0
    Quote: major071
    Now I'm afraid to ask, but how many in land?

    But I am embarrassed to ask, is this the Chinese Air Force or the American "Dream Team" in basketball? lol
    Or maybe the words to the song "Higher and higher and higher,
    We strive for the flight of our birds, "how did you understand it perversely?
    1. Andrew 58
      Andrew 58 15 December 2013 20: 38 New
      0
      Yes, just the angle for the shooting picked up this.
      1. avg
        avg 15 December 2013 21: 15 New
        0
        More likely in the graphic editor pulled out. But I’m not talking about this, but about the hidden meaning, subtext. laughing
  24. Megre
    Megre 15 December 2013 21: 17 New
    +1
    As the saying goes "God forbid." The prophecy of the holy elder.
    SCHIARCHIMANDRITE SERAPHIM (TYAPOCHKIN) FROM RAKITNY, 1977
    During the memorable conversation, a young woman from the Siberian city was present. The elder told her: "You will accept a martyrdom at the hands of the Chinese at the stadium of your city, where they will drive the Christian residents and those who disagree with their rule." This was an answer to her doubt about the elder's words that almost all of Siberia would be captured by the Chinese. The elder said what was revealed to him about the future of Russia, he did not give dates, he only emphasized that the time of completion of what was said was in the hands of God, and much depended on how the spiritual life of the Russian Church would be formed, how strong faith in God in Russians would be people, what will be the prayer feat of believers. The elder said that the collapse of Russia, despite the apparent strength and rigidity of power, will happen very quickly. First, the Slavic peoples will be divided, then the union republics: the Baltic, Central Asian, Caucasian and Moldavia will fall away. After this, the central government in Russia will weaken even more, so that the autonomous republics and regions will begin to separate. Further will go even greater collapse: the authorities of the Center will cease to recognize in reality certain regions that will try to live independently and will no longer pay attention to decrees from Moscow. The biggest tragedy will be the capture of Siberia by China. This will not happen by military means: as a result of the weakening of power and open borders, the Chinese will masses move to Siberia, buy real estate, enterprises, apartments. Through bribery, intimidation, contracts with those in power, they gradually subjugate the economic life of cities. Everything will happen so that one morning the Russian people living in Siberia will wake up ... in the Chinese state. The fate of those who remain there will be tragic, but not hopeless. The Chinese brutally crack down on all attempts at resistance. (Therefore, the elder predicted martyrdom at the stadium of the Siberian city of many Orthodox and patriots of the motherland). The West will contribute to this creeping conquest of our land and in every way support China's military and economic power out of hatred of Russia. But then they will see a danger for themselves, and when the Chinese try to seize the Urals by military force and move on, they will by all means prevent it and may even help Russia in repelling the invasion from the East. Russia must withstand this battle, after suffering and complete impoverishment, it will find the strength in itself to perk up. And the coming revival will begin in the lands conquered by the enemies, among the Russians who remained in the former republics of the Union. There, Russian people realize that they have lost, they recognize themselves as citizens of that Fatherland, which still lives, and wish to help it rise from the ashes. Many Russians living abroad will begin to help restore life in Russia ... Many of those who can escape from persecution and persecution will return to the original Russian lands to fill the abandoned villages, cultivate neglected fields, and use the remaining undeveloped subsoil. The Lord will send help, and despite the fact that the country will lose the main deposits of raw materials, they will find both oil and gas on the territory of Russia, without which a modern economy is impossible. The elder said that the Lord would allow the loss of vast lands granted to Russia, because we ourselves could not use them worthily, but only dirtied, spoiled ... But the Lord will leave for Russia those lands that became the cradle of the Russian people and were the basis of the Great Russian state. This is the territory of the Great Moscow Principality of the XNUMXth century with access to the Black, Baltic and North Seas. Russia will not be rich, but still it will be able to feed itself and force to reckon with itself. To the question: "What will happen to Ukraine and Belarus?"
    1. Megre
      Megre 15 December 2013 21: 19 New
      0
      Read more.

      Those who in these peoples are against the union with Russia - even if they consider themselves believers - become servants of the devil. The Slavic peoples have a common destiny, and the reverend Fathers of Kiev-Pechersk will also say their weighty word - they, together with the host of Russian New Martyrs, will beg for a new Union of three fraternal peoples. Another question was asked - about the possibility of restoring the monarchy in Russia. The elder replied that this restoration must be earned. It exists as a possibility, not as a predetermination. If we are worthy, the Russian people will choose the Tsar, but this will become possible just before the accession of the Antichrist or even after him - for a very short time. "
  25. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 15 December 2013 22: 03 New
    +1
    <<< Given the presence of an extensive airfield network, which provides the ability to maneuver forces and means of aviation, China can already achieve more than two-fold numerical superiority in aviation over any potential enemy and on any strategic direction along the perimeter of national borders. >>>
    And our "effective manager" - Serdyukov & Co has come up with nothing smarter than how to "optimize" the network of Russian airfields, reducing them so much that even a not so numerous fleet of our military aviation is forced to crowd on them, presenting an excellent target for the enemy "if something happens "God forbid, of course! Here is an illustrative example of two approaches to this issue: the Chinese have a state one, with a perspective view, the "effective manager" has a shtetl, with a look, as it were, to have something with it! Only RNAO saves us, bye!
  26. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 16 December 2013 00: 57 New
    0
    The last 3 ministers of defense on the count !!!!
    1. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. 17 December 2013 09: 16 New
      0
      Why such extravagance - on the count? It is necessary to offer an asymmetric answer: SERDYUKOV, CHINA DEFENSE MINISTER !!!! And then you can sleep peacefully :)
  27. EvilLion
    EvilLion 16 December 2013 04: 05 New
    0
    In terms of the number of aircraft groupings of the fourth and “4 +” generations, the People's Republic of China occupy the second place in the world after the USA, overtaking Russia, which has no more than 230 of such aircraft.


    The author is raving. Only the Su-27 is operational under 200, and the Su-27СМ will be stronger than far from the new Su-27СК or some simple thread Su-30МКК.

    All innovations allow, to a first approximation, to attribute the Jian-11В multi-functional fighter to the “4 +” generation.


    It is pointless to discuss what no one has seen. The Chinese, while the champions are just in the window.

    According to aviation experts, the appearance and layout of the new Chinese multifunctional fighter under the designation Jian-20 in many ways resembles the multifunctional fighter of the Russian Aircraft Corporation (RSK) MiG MFI 1.42. It is assumed that MiG specialists participating in the FC-1 and Jian-10 development programs could have leaked information on the 1.42 IFIs.


    But real experts, not "experts" evaluate the J-20 as a technology demonstrator at best. It is impossible to build a 5th generation aircraft without being able to build the 4th; China, in fact, does not know how to build the 4th.

    Currently, Beijing is negotiating the purchase of a batch of 26 ++ Russian Su-4 multi-role 35 fighter jets from 30, which is a transitional model between the latest version of the 5 Su and the promising T-50 35 generation aircraft. Having received the Su-20, China will be able to solve two tasks: on the one hand, before adopting Jian-22, to form an aviation group capable of almost equally opposing the American F-35 and F-XNUMX, and on the other, copying those systems and units of the Russian aircraft that bring it to the fifth generation.


    Obviously, 26 aircraft will not solve any military tasks, and 48 will not be solved, and even 108 should not be considered as a radical strengthening of the Chinese Air Force, but the Chinese factories themselves will take up some time. About copy. Well, see, then sozg soar for a long time, how to reproduce it and raise the 15 resource for another 100 hours. However, no one will sell them anything, and the dregs come, most likely, from China itself.

    thanks to the design documentation on B-2 obtained by Chinese intelligence and cyberformations


    The Chinese have learned to penetrate physically isolated networks?

    According to Chinese media reports, the new transporter surpasses Russian IL-76MD series vehicles in all respects


    Hysterical rzhach.

    Prior to their creation, Yun-20 will be equipped with Russian engines D-30KP2.


    Still superior. Doooo. I am already sure that J-11B is just a fiction.