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Open, military police

In the Russian army introduced operational control over the state of discipline and law and order in the garrisons. The solution of this problem will the military police.


- Even before the adoption of the law, the Minister of Defense gave us the authority to conduct surprise checks. That is, we were able to quickly respond to certain signals, freely, at any time, go into the military unit and perform actions related to establishing order, ”said Igor Sidorkevich, head of the Main Directorate of the Military Police of the Russian Defense Ministry.

The law, which the officer mentioned, the President of the Russian Federation introduced the State Duma 2 December. Although the military police has officially been in our army for two years, the work on the formation of the regulatory framework of this structure continues. The new bill states that the military police is designed to protect the life, health, rights and freedoms of soldiers and officers, the civilian personnel of the Armed Forces and those who undergo military training. And also to counteract crime, ensure law, law and order and discipline among the troops, road safety (along with the traffic police, army traffic police are already involved in the military police) and other tasks. The main functions and powers of the military police will be listed in special legal acts, including the Statute of the Military Police Service.

It is known that the Minister of Defense will head the military police. He will determine its organizational structure and size. Moreover, the recruitment of military and civilian employees will not exceed the total number of people established for the Russian army. The law of the army will give the right to use physical force, special means and firearms in strictly specified cases and in a clearly defined manner. weapon.

- Our employees must save the soldiers and commanders from many unusual functions. The new law allows this to be done, the RG correspondent was told at the Main Directorate of the Military Police.

This includes the fight against drugs and hazing in the army. And yet - about the conduct of an inquiry on some soldier’s or officer’s crime. As a rule, platoon or company officers were doing this now. After the adoption of the law, the role of the investigator will be transferred to the army police officer. And the military lawyers from the TFR and the Prosecutor General’s Office will continue to deal with the serious investigation of crimes and the supervision of this process. Many emergency situations in the garrisons can and should be prevented. For this purpose, they organize surprise checks in military units, about which Igor Sidorkevich spoke. It is clear that professionals should perform such work, and given the scale of our army, they require a lot. Now in the military police serve more than 6 thousand people and their number, according to the officer, is expected to double. Both the core department of the Ministry of Defense, its four territorial departments in military districts, and the commandant's offices with departmental traffic police will strengthen personnel. Only contract servicemen will be taken to serve in these bodies, with all candidates waiting for tough, including psychological, selection.

As for the law on the military police, the deputies are going to consider the document at the beginning of next year and promise not to delay its adoption.
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  1. saag
    saag 13 December 2013 10: 38 New
    +2
    And why was it canceled at one time?
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 13 December 2013 10: 47 New
      +1
      Will they control themselves? Somehow frivolously ...
      1. Homo
        Homo 13 December 2013 14: 43 New
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        ShturmKGB
        Will they control themselves? Somehow frivolously ...

        By your logic, all departments of internal security (investigations) are also not serious, are they always from the same structure?
      2. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 13 December 2013 15: 22 New
        +1
        Until the opposite has been proven, I think it is too early to criticize the effectiveness of their work. Wait and see, maybe discipline in the army will really become better.

        1. yurii p
          yurii p 13 December 2013 20: 32 New
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          "Until proven otherwise, I think it is worthless to criticize the effectiveness of their work," .... if they would have been recruited from Mars or Jupiter then it is POSSIBLE, but not guaranteed, and so everyone knows how these workers of sword and ax work.
    2. creak
      creak 13 December 2013 11: 59 New
      +7
      Saag
      And why was it canceled at one time?


      Nobody could cancel the military police since it never was in the Armed Forces. There was a curfew service and the IAI, but there was no police ...
    3. yurii p
      yurii p 13 December 2013 20: 28 New
      +1
      Then there was no such wave of crimes in the army, but even now I do not believe in the effectiveness of the new structure, there will be a second police-police, with all these shortcomings and systemic corruption.
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 13 December 2013 23: 10 New
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        Quote: yurii p
        Then there was no such wave of crimes in the army, but even now I do not believe in the effectiveness of the new structure, there will be a second police-police, with all these shortcomings and systemic corruption.


        I support, Yura! Efficiency from the newly minted structure will not be for sure! There will be expenses - this is for sure!
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      3. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 14 December 2013 01: 56 New
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        What are you talking about? And what offended you "police-police"? Did you contact the UK? And it's fashionable right now ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 13 December 2013 10: 48 New
    +3
    Open, military police
    and in response SILENCE .... and this is at best.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 13 December 2013 10: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      and in response SILENCE .... and this is at best.

      If a normal legal basis is provided for the activities of the VP, then you will not need to "ask to open" again, they will take out the doors ...
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 13 December 2013 11: 13 New
        +6
        "Our employees must relieve soldiers and commanders of many functions unusual for them. The new law allows this to be done," the Main Directorate of the Military Police told an RG correspondent.
        This includes the fight against drugs and bullying in the army. "

        Already wrote that in the army and in peacetime, and especially in wartime unusual commanders no functions. One-man command in the army (tested for centuries) can only be canceled by a madman or a wrecker.
        Who else but commanders, especially unit commanders, must fight "drugs and bullying in the army." Do they need a good tool for this? Of course you do. And military policemen should become this tool.
        But, for now, from the speeches of "competent persons", the military police service seems to be something like "a special department of the military prosecutor's office + the service of the VAI" smile
        In general, are the comrades on the right path? what
        The commander should train the troops, the sucker should try to provide them (the contract is in Moscow, the commander can only complain about poor outsourcing), the police, which also submits to Moscow, (sort of like police chiefs in the military separately, commanders separately) restore and maintain order and discipline?
        It looks like a swan, a crab and a pike.

      2. svp67
        svp67 13 December 2013 11: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Corsair
        If a normal legal basis is provided for the activities of the VP, then you will not need to "ask to open" again, they will take out the doors ...

        That's when LEGAL documents appear, then we'll see, and so ... only INTENTIONS. If only not "as always" - they will create, attract people, spend money, and then it turns out that this system cannot function normally - "they forgot to regulate all legislative issues."
        1. Lesnik
          Lesnik 14 December 2013 02: 49 New
          0
          And it will be so - I said absolutely useless structure
    2. military
      military 13 December 2013 11: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      and in response SILENCE .... and this is at best.

      in response, "We are all at home. Go through the forest ..."
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 December 2013 11: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: military
        in response, "We are all at home. Go through the forest ..."
        otherwise we’ll call the POLICE ...
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 13 December 2013 12: 22 New
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          Quote: military
          in response, "We are all at home. Go through the forest ..." otherwise we will call the POLICE ...

          5 points and 5 pluses !!!
  3. jjj
    jjj 13 December 2013 11: 04 New
    +4
    The military police has been operating for several years on the basis of military commandant’s offices. Carries out all functions inherent in commandant's offices. They are on duty with the traffic police and the teaching staff for the identification of administrative offenses by military personnel outside the location of military units. Keep track of fire fighting activities in units. Act on amplifications. Organize the work of military patrols.
    But how will they conduct inquiries? To do this, you need to graduate from at least a high school ordinary police
    1. creak
      creak 13 December 2013 11: 55 New
      +1
      Inquiry will be carried out by military lawyers, who are trained at the relevant faculty of the Military University ...
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 14 December 2013 14: 32 New
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        What is the inquiry? administrative? - the military prosecutor's office will be very pleased with all the work they will do for them. And those only "plus signs" to draw laughing
    2. not good
      not good 13 December 2013 12: 03 New
      +1
      I don’t know how it is now, but during my service in the 80-90s I was a non-staff investigator, then regular exercises were held with us (investigators) at the headquarters of the flotilla, we also had to communicate with representatives of the military prosecutor’s office and, in principle, performed their duties quite well. As for my personal opinion: the combat officer should not do more than figs how to deal with, in addition to his direct duties, also inquiry, let there be full-time specialists.
      In fact, the VP takes over the functions that the military commandant's office had previously performed, and so that it would not be another change of signage, you really need to simply transfer the functions, and after working through the staff structure, adjust the legislative framework for all this.
    3. Lesnik
      Lesnik 14 December 2013 14: 30 New
      0
      Once again I say - and not the military and not the police as well laughing
      inspectors and assistants in orders of "non-admission and punishment" as if they were "inspectors" and so few laughing
  4. andr327
    andr327 13 December 2013 11: 56 New
    +2
    how will this police work in remote garrisons? And then the commanders-in-chief are accustomed to the fact that everything is in their city, and generally within the Garden Ring, but there is no life beyond the MKAD.
    And no matter how you say it, the COMMANDER is responsible for the discipline and the political and moral condition of the personnel, only where to get it, probably to call up jackets, they all know how (they can sell stools and collect taxes and the military will cope).
    Never an outsider will bring order to your house.
  5. vlad0
    vlad0 13 December 2013 12: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: "Only contract soldiers will be hired to serve in these bodies ..."

    Again, the idea arises that contract soldiers have a panacea for everything. Here we recruit them, and discipline in the troops will immediately be oh-hoo! I am sure that most officers now juggle at the mention of contractors. And here they still want to put them in control of the order in parts.
    classic: And who are the judges?
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 13 December 2013 22: 26 New
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      Quote: vlad0
      Again, the idea arises that contract soldiers have a panacea for everything.

      Hm. And then whom to dial? request Conscripts who understand laws and regulations like an Eskimo in bananas? Or the officers? I imagined my uncle in the rank of major as a lead or convoy on the "lip" ... laughing
    2. Lesnik
      Lesnik 14 December 2013 14: 38 New
      0
      I am amazed how they like to erode the personal responsibility of the commander. am
      And contractors are the first "flyers" - with such a turnover of staff, it is practically impossible to organize full-fledged training negative
  6. 787nkx
    787nkx 13 December 2013 12: 23 New
    -1
    Inspections, including sudden, and without police, are carried out in various areas of the unit.
    Inspectors do not replace the commander, the commander was and will always be responsible for everything.
    If you approach without formalism, I think there will be help for the commander and l / s.
  7. dnh1970
    dnh1970 13 December 2013 12: 55 New
    0
    Worthy commanders will not have any hazing and similar relations, and so it is convenient for them - "grandfathers will rule everything", no matter how ... but you yourself can not strain. I judge from my own two-year experience of 1988-1990.
  8. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 13 December 2013 13: 57 New
    +1
    In Russia, there are already police, policemen ... Now, logically, the military police should be called correctly-the Gendarmerie.
  9. clidon
    clidon 13 December 2013 14: 01 New
    -1
    The main thing is that the police have enough authority to work in the garrisons and there was no merging of the local command and leadership of the police. That is, subordination is strictly central, plus constant rotation and an ongoing internal security service.
  10. 76rtbr
    76rtbr 13 December 2013 14: 12 New
    0
    B.A.M. !!!!! who doesn't know ??
  11. Commander
    Commander 13 December 2013 14: 14 New
    +2
    In the military. the police recruited contractors 2 years ago. Gone are survival and all that. Now, while they are in the North, they are standing at the checkpoint in closed garrisons. And now they turn around !! For commanders, this is an extra crap! Another structure will look for sticks! Each time they will pull this commander! But they are not going to live with the personnel in the barracks! There are a lot of inspectors, but there’s no sense! Extreme is always a commander!
  12. Christian
    Christian 13 December 2013 18: 49 New
    +2
    If they cope with such chaos, then I -ZA!
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 13 December 2013 23: 14 New
      -1
      Photoshop, definitely!
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      2. creak
        creak 14 December 2013 12: 36 New
        0
        No way. A similar case was in the Northern Fleet, though the case there ended in a trial of lawless people ...
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    3. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 14 December 2013 02: 42 New
      0
      But such special forces eliminate it. Sheep’s mind isn’t enough not to take pictures and videos ... and generally it’s normal to draw a razor knife on the flag. laughing
    4. vlad0
      vlad0 14 December 2013 14: 50 New
      0
      Is this a military policeman ????? belay