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About Me
Elderly. Higher technical education. Production activity began to work, which turned into a bunch of advantages in understanding the behavior of subordinates. Supervised almost eight hundred. Forty years of production experience. On the street greet the hand of workers.


About criticism
No complex system works normally without criticism and self-criticism. In technology, this is negative feedback. The planning of any process should include summing up, but not reassuring - such as the last CPSU congresses.

Imperialism
We live in the age of imperialism. And imperialism of the West. Western statements about the inadmissibility of an empire led by Russia are a common substitution of notions and a disguise of aspirations to devour us. We in 1993 created ordinary capitalism. Disagreeing please get acquainted with the concept of "imperialism".

Frames decide everything
Only lieutenants / masters / clerks take a person without experience, but with a special education. At the positions above, people are already selected with relevant positive experience and knowledge. Some are tested and tested on a polygraph. About testing: modern methods allow to determine not only the inclinations of a person, but also to find out if he is not deceiving when answering questions. I propose to select top positions by well-known personnel techniques. Also make public the official instructions of high-ranking officials, from heads of departments / corporations to the prime minister, in which to provide for increased responsibility along with an increase in rights and duties.
Napoleon said that the highest obscenity - is to take up the case, which you can not do. My mother used to say that thin work is like stealing.

Children
My children more or less held. Grandchildren go to school. I hope for them. But I know that even gold will be, above a certain level they will fail. As the Marshal Romanov well said on the website, only the children of high-ranking officials are completely geniuses.

Gold currency
Well, at least someone can answer, why is our gold exchange in obligations of Washington, Brussels, London, but not in our economy? Please reply is available. One of my teachers, doctor of physical and mathematical. Sciences, said: "If you explain unfamiliar things is not clear, using a heap of special terms, then either the person explaining himself does not know, or is simply deceiving."

Justice
One of the foundations of the world. Thirty years ago, I realized that products at work are being done by everyone, starting with the cleaners. Just someone does well, and someone - is bad. That the division into main and auxiliary ones is nonsense. An excellent repair technician has to pay more than the average manufacturing technologist. It is unfair and depraved to pay the director hundreds of times more cleaners. And about the "golden parachute" in 200 mln. Rub. b. the head of the state-owned Rostelecom, Provotorov, has nothing to say ... Justice is a very subjective assessment. For example, more than 99% in the country want Chubais and the like to be removed (we will not say where), but for less 1% he is a benefactor or an effective manager. My opinion in the Roman expression: "The voice of the people is the voice of God."

Who makes fast - makes it doubly
I have known for a long time that when departing from a normal process, it is not necessary to try ways in turn. It is necessary to immediately apply everything that can help. This applies to everything from production to politics. It is still sad to hear brave reports about the defeat of the gang of drug traffickers, which they “developed” the year (!!!). Or to hear each year “new” in the promises of a decade ago to restore order in housing and communal services. Or wait years before removing suspicion from Serdyukov over the expiration of the statute of limitations. Under Stalin, they understood that the delay in convicting a thief breeds thieves.
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  1. Civil
    Civil 13 December 2013 07: 34
    +4
    What can I say then .... fine, excellent, but what's next ?!
    1. My address
      13 December 2013 08: 01
      +4
      See what is written in "Personnel is everything". Try to evaluate the selection and work of high-ranking officials in this division.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Altona
        Altona 13 December 2013 09: 08
        +3
        It is difficult to assess the selection of personnel by any criteria due to the fact that nepotism and nepotism flourish at the top with might and main ... Well, how can you evaluate the work if a person stupidly works as a "relative"? For example, the notorious Evgenia Vasilyeva, graduated from St. Petersburg State University with "honors", as she herself assures, but writes with errors, although she also fancies herself a poetess ... And this is all too often ...
        As for technologists and workers ... It’s not necessary to deal with nonsense in the direction of engineering and engineering and pour mud on them ... If you don’t like the technologist, then dismiss and do not need to do demagogy ... The technologist can calculate the entire manufacturing process of the product, suggest solutions, indicate bottlenecks and suggest replacing the material and so on ... For example ... The worker solves completely different problems, he is engaged in manufacturing ... If it is not provided necessary and the task is not set clearly, then the result may not be ...
        As for directors and others ... Now they rule those who allegedly contribute to the operation of the enterprise, who can find or knock out orders ... This is natural, the director and financial director ... Therefore, their share of the total margin is most significant ... The rest -simple performers and butter to their bread are unworthy ... With a planned economy, the state lowers orders and the role of managers and taxis is negligible ...
        As for our economy, it has been set sailing around the world ... Legislatively, exporters of raw materials and markets also have incentives ... The rest of the producers are crushed by competitors by all means ... Financially, we are also tied to the West and laws concocted in the 90s we actually we cannot invest ourselves, which also does not contribute to the success of our manufacturers ...
        1. A.YARY
          A.YARY 13 December 2013 09: 52
          +1
          Eugene good day
          You correctly described everything, the system you described must be destroyed.
          The reasons are taken for granted.

          From SW. hi
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 13 December 2013 10: 11
            +5
            Quote: A.YARY
            You correctly described everything, the system you described must be destroyed.

            This is the problem. Do you have any plan for building a new system? The system has become obsolete, and it urgently needs at least a major overhaul. But who will do it then? You can demolish, not a question, but where will we live? The situation here is stalemate, the authorities know this, and use it. hi
            P.S. Although a couple of years, and I want to Maidan.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 13 December 2013 14: 13
              +3
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              The situation here is stalemate

              Patovaya, or are they trying to convince everyone of this unsuccessfully?
            2. Andrey57
              Andrey57 13 December 2013 14: 49
              +3
              It is necessary to start with the "nationalization" of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation along with a change in the entire package of laws and articles of the Constitution concerning the legal status and activities of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and changes in the rules for the functioning of the financial system in the country, this will immediately, without changing everything else, allow doubling the country's budget ... this is so for a start, you can read in more detail in the book on the site 10-18.com
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 13 December 2013 18: 30
                0
                Quote: Andrey57
                It is necessary to start with the "nationalization" of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation
                Where does it say it's private?

                this immediately, without changing everything else, will double the country's budget
                Yeah, and corrupt officials themselves transplant themselves, and the prime-presidents from this become patriots ...
        2. My address
          13 December 2013 10: 23
          +5
          Eugene!
          1. Indicate where the nonsense is.
          2. What makes you think that a manufacturing technologist is necessarily ITRovets? I am well versed in the difference between workers and RCC. You think that a technologist is a specialist, and I know that this is someone who is involved in the process. And where did I write that I do not like it?
          3. I assure you that the managing director of an enterprise of even more than 10tys does not have the right to earn hundreds of times more as a cleaning lady.
          A rough example: Money is the measure of labor. The technologist did not go to work and goodbye shift work. The director did not go to work, so what?
          Of course, you need to pay the second more (knowledge, responsibility, obligation), but leaving the first without oil, as you put it, is to intensively seek adventures in your opposition.
          1. My address
            13 December 2013 11: 00
            +6
            Eugene!
            Followers on the site / forum!

            More on the topic of payment.
            In the workshop in the 90's it was that the foremen and the beginning. shifts sometimes earned more than me. For what the beginning. The department of labor of the enterprise reprimanded me. But when I once said that there is no work, and even there is no money to pay for labor, I myself found a team of the best technologists, workers, locksmiths, electricians, crane operators, etc. with two masters and for two shifts they plowed perfectly. Two months later they paid them.

            And if I had a policy of oil shortages for everyone? Yes, they would not be what they volunteered for, even if I were on my knees and spat on me! Is it economically profitable to respect yourself, consider people to be people and pay them not on a residual basis? I’m not talking about the decency of the wild bundle of payment.

            I don’t put a minus to you, I take into account your previous statements.
            1. BOB48
              BOB48 13 December 2013 11: 58
              +2
              ++++++++++++++++ !!!!
            2. Altona
              Altona 13 December 2013 12: 25
              +1
              Alexander, I believe that comparing wages in such a way that opposing people doing one thing is incorrect and ugly ... Is he a technologist, a locksmith, it doesn’t matter ... People have slightly different tasks in the production process ... And measure them labor can be done with anything, with all types of KTU, and from there to derive their earnings, but not by direct comparison ...
              1. My address
                13 December 2013 13: 04
                +5
                Eugene!

                Well, whom am I unfairly opposed to whom? Where did I get a break?
                So I began to work as a working technologist and began to begin. technological workshop. And the technologists in it from the slinger to the deputy. beg. technology workshops. And not just engineers in the technology bureau, one of which you, apparently, are. Locksmiths, electricians at the deputy for equipment.
                Also - mine, namely mine, technology inventions / patents work in Russia and Ukraine.
                And yet - read again in the article about criticism and self-criticism. So I was not shy about confessing my mistakes and stupid things to a cleaning lady. And even with witnesses. Although it did not give me pleasure.
        3. yur
          yur 13 December 2013 22: 35
          +1
          "The worker solves completely different tasks" ... Just imagine such a situation - all technologists, bankers, politicians have disappeared from the planet Earth - will humanity survive? With some difficulties, but definitely YES. But, God forbid, workers and peasants will disappear, then those who remain will not need any nuclear war - they will die out themselves.
          1. corn
            corn 13 December 2013 23: 45
            +1
            Yuru
            Sorry, but the result will be the same.
            Only technologists, bankers and politicians will happen faster.
        4. CTEPX
          CTEPX 14 December 2013 05: 56
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          What about our economy

          The key issue in our economy is the intrinsic cost of energy resources. This is our natural competitive advantage, won for us by our ancestors)). Accordingly, our future political system must guarantee the use of such an advantage. A simple realization of the fact that the use of the real cost of electricity / energy in Siberia is from 4 to 8 kopecks is enough. per kW, will immediately cause an explosive development of production and agriculture, as well as the fact that today all the "margin" obtained on the difference between the real and the offered value is the lion's share of the capital exported from Russia)).
      3. Pinochet000
        Pinochet000 13 December 2013 10: 00
        +4
        Quote: My address
        See what is written in "Personnel is everything"

        + I.V. Stalin has matured to the root ...
        1. VADEL
          VADEL 13 December 2013 22: 27
          +1
          And Kuzma Prutkov- "LOOK INTO THE ROOT"
      4. pensioner
        pensioner 13 December 2013 22: 36
        +2
        Sasha! Congratulations on your initiative! good We are waiting for the continuation. hi
      5. alone
        alone 14 December 2013 00: 07
        +1
        Quote: My address
        See what is written in "Personnel is everything". Try to evaluate the selection and work of high-ranking officials in this division.


        What is written about the staff is 100% true. But you forget one thing. The current officials also have children and they already represent themselves as future officials.

        it's like in a joke
        can the son of a worker become a general? -no. the maximum will become a colonel.-and why? -the generals also have sons.
  2. Tatarus
    Tatarus 13 December 2013 07: 44
    -5
    A very "informative" article. Birthday self-promotion?
    1. My address
      13 December 2013 08: 07
      16
      Me for 60-t. At this age, the desire to share information prevails over nonsense. And I wrote about myself to explain what I am.
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 13 December 2013 20: 14
        -3
        On the website "Military Review"? So let's all do this.
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The man outlined his vision of problems ... Argue, discuss, speak out!
        There’s nothing more to discuss in the world ...
      2. VADEL
        VADEL 13 December 2013 22: 30
        0
        BRAVO! Well done! Let the Chubais piss. good
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 13 December 2013 09: 31
      10
      The man outlined his vision of problems ... Argue, discuss, speak out! hi
  3. makarov
    makarov 13 December 2013 07: 47
    +4
    In what the author is right. But everyone has their own truth. And the author even gave an example on the red beast. Therefore, I will say this: - And you are also right !!!
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 13 December 2013 07: 50
    +8
    And about the "golden parachute" of 200 million rubles. b. Provotorov, the head of the state Rostelecom, has nothing to say

    CHUBAIS created an excellent incentive for its vassals - they will dig the earth with their nose to meet his expectations.
    The worker and the peasant, looking at all this, can only swear and send this whole system in three letters.
  5. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 December 2013 07: 51
    11
    And about the "golden parachute" of 200 million rubles. b. Provotorov, the head of the state Rostelecom, has nothing to say ... Justice is a very subjective assessment. For example, more than 99% of the country wants to remove Chubais and the like (we will not say where), but for less than 1% he is a benefactor or an effective manager. My opinion in Roman terms: “The voice of the people is the voice of God.”
    Golden parachutes are another mockery of the power-have-money of the people. A simple worker with golden hands even. it’s not going to earn 200 million for a lifetime, and then 200 million. allowance for being fired. and get fired for not doing the job. and this is not the largest amount paid. there were more
  6. George
    George 13 December 2013 08: 00
    +5
    As the “Marshal” Romanov said well, only the children of senior officials are geniuses

    This is a series of why the children of colonels do not become generals? Because generals have their own children.
    It’s still sad to hear brave reports about the defeat of a gang of drug dealers, which was “developed” by the year (!!!)

    While the cops will serve as security guards at the funeral of thieves, there will be no sadness for lawyers.
  7. dark_65
    dark_65 13 December 2013 08: 02
    +3
    The article is normal. The author apparently just got a little tired, it also happens. But in general, if you think about it, it's a simple, normal person, rooting for the country.
    The question is different, solutions and why the article?
    1. My address
      13 December 2013 08: 21
      +2
      The article is informative about my experience. Including see the comment 8h 13min.
  8. saag
    saag 13 December 2013 08: 03
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The worker and the peasant, looking at all this, can only swear and send this whole system in three letters.

    It is necessary to organize the bond of the city and the village, otherwise they will really only look, in a word, you need
  9. My address
    13 December 2013 08: 13
    +5
    By the way.
    Sorry.
    I forgot to write about the need to think through all the actions, not only in terms of influence in space, but also in time. It happened that I’ll come up with a good one, but in a couple of years it will turn into taaaaaaaaa nonsense. In this regard, a subparagraph follows - if you do not know what to do, proceed according to existing recommendations in a similar way. hi

    I do not want to hint at the stupidity of the prime minister Dima in a similar, but it turns out by itself.
  10. calocha
    calocha 13 December 2013 08: 44
    +3
    Everything is simple and clear. And then I listened to the other day Medvedev who likes to use some kind of foreign words - it's sickening!
  11. My address
    13 December 2013 08: 58
    +6
    Sorry yet. request

    I did not mention that the capitalists in our country are entirely compradors.
    They just might not have missed the article.
    And compradors (traitors for their country) were made and are made by the state. And first of all, the fact that big money is more profitable to borrow in the West. And the country's gold and foreign currency just under 1% per annum is also in the West!
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 13 December 2013 14: 57
      +1
      You are not right, it is not the state that makes this system such, but the Constitution written by the Americans, especially regarding the provisions on the CBR and the current legislation on the same CBR. in more detail and more completely You may be unpleasantly surprised to read a book posted on the site 10-18.com hi
  12. Stiletto
    Stiletto 13 December 2013 09: 28
    +7
    "Lean work is like stealing." Correct words, Alexander. You're in luck with your parents. hi
  13. IslamMoyReligion
    IslamMoyReligion 13 December 2013 09: 30
    -16 qualifying.
    In terms of banal erudition and blah blah blah ......
  14. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 13 December 2013 09: 31
    +9
    storehouse of thoughts hi
    Napoleon said that the highest obscenity is to take on a business that you do not know how to do.

    especially liked:
    "If unfamiliar things are explained to you incomprehensibly, using a bunch of special terms, then either the person explaining himself doesn’t know, or he simply deceives."

    despite the fact that the article (if I may say so) says things obvious to all people who can think, I put it plus for its conciseness and accessibility
  15. Andrey57
    Andrey57 13 December 2013 09: 49
    +6
    Gold currency
    The author wanted something simpler about foreign exchange reserving - a description of the mechanism of robbing the country "for free"

    article 22 of the Law on the Bank of Russia: “The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the federal budget deficit. And also to buy government securities at their initial placement, with the exception of cases when it is provided for by the Federal Law on the Federal Budget. ”
    For the needs of the budget, the Government of the Russian Federation can be credited anywhere, but not in its own bank.
    If the Central Bank prints rubles, but doesn’t provide these rubles to the Government and doesn’t even give them on credit, then how do the money printed by the Central Bank get into our pocket?
    Answer: only through the currency exchange. In other words, the Central Bank prints rubles only to sell them for dollars, euros and other world reserve currencies: the pound sterling, the yen and the Swiss franc. The Central Bank sets the selling rate on its own. At what rate I wanted at that rate and sold.
    And who has a foreign currency that must be sold for rubles? At commercial organizations that sell their goods abroad for foreign currency. They need rubles to pay their workers' salaries, to pay services to their contractors, etc., since on the territory of Russia, according to its Constitution, the only currency for goods exchange is the ruble. So, it is necessary for organizations-exporters to exchange the received currency from the Central Bank for rubles at the exchange rate set by the Central Bank.
    And what do Russian companies export? The main export items of Russia (according to the Federal Customs Service) are gas and oil (70%), primary metals (15%), roundwood (10%), everything else, including equipment, weapons and technology - less than 5%. Thus, Russia exports only its raw materials.
    As a result, we get the following picture: there is no export of raw materials - there are no rubles in the Russian economy. There will be no rubles in the economy, there will be no economy itself. There will be no economy - there will be no Russia itself. There will be no export of raw materials - there will be no Russian state.
    Here is the true role of the Central Bank, disguised as the official noble functions listed in the law “On the Bank of Russia” and the Constitution of the Russian Federation. This role is that the Central Bank in Russia only in order to pump Russian raw materials abroad for free!
    Why do you ask for free? After all, the Central Bank received foreign currency and it is also possible to buy something abroad? Yes, the Central Bank received the currency, but instead of buying something on it, it stores this currency in the gold and foreign exchange reserves of Russia (hereinafter the Gold and Gold Exchange).
    What happens to foreign exchange in gold reserves? It is simply disposed of by inflation. According to the Constitution of Russia, the Central Bank can keep money in gold reserves almost forever, until they all depreciate, and the Government of the Russian Federation does not have the authority to force the Central Bank to start using gold reserves.
    The US Federal Reserve, having received Russian raw materials, prints a new dollar mass equal to the one for which this raw material was purchased. Thus, restoring its commodity-money balance. The US Federal Reserve knows that the Central Bank will conserve the received dollars in gold and foreign currency reserves and thus will not be able to cause inflation by buying from the United States anything for their dollars. Result: raw materials and money in the USA, rubles in Russia.
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 13 December 2013 10: 08
      +5
      You can add the output:
      On average, 220 billions of dollars are conserved in the gold and foreign currency reserves of the Central Bank per year, which is comparable to half the budget of the whole country. It cannot be called otherwise than a foreign tribute. From the figures it is clear that in the entire history of Russia (since 1993 of the year) we have given away and continue to give 50% of all our material goods.
      Thus, until the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is nationalized and its legal status is not changed, until a "pro-Russian" law on the Central Bank is written, until changes are made to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in terms of provisions on the Central Bank, there can be no revival of the country. speech.
      1. Grbear
        Grbear 13 December 2013 15: 00
        +6
        Andrey57

        I do not think that the current situation with the Central Bank is accidental. The financial system is just a set of rules and actions that serves the POLITICAL system. And since we asked ... they wiped socialism and fell into capitalism from all over without knowing ford, then we built the financial system for us. It's true.

        But I would have looked from the other side. To capitalism they let us in"by giving the opportunity to sell our raw materials, but leaving the country not torn to pieces, although the opportunity was quite real (with the hope that we will remain on our knees). Besides, it is not a fact that it would be better if WE are with OUR MPs, the government and the president of that time got the opportunity to solve our problems with the help of a “printing press.” If we take into account that now there are restrictions on the issue of banknotes and compare with the amount of money stolen, then we can say with confidence that Russia is the richest country and that the problem is not with the Central Bank (deposits in foreign currency are payments for relative non-interference), but the problem in restoring economic order within the country.

        Before leaving one fulcrum, one must be sure of the reliability of another.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 13 December 2013 15: 41
      -2
      Quote: Andrey57
      If the Central Bank prints rubles, but doesn’t provide these rubles to the Government and doesn’t even give them on credit, then how do the money printed by the Central Bank get into our pocket?
      Answer: only through the currency exchange.
      And if the Central Bank provides money to the government, then how will it get into our pocket in this case? laughing

      In other words, the Central Bank prints rubles only to sell them for dollars, euros and other world reserve currencies
      Seriously? It is for this, and not for ensuring trade in the territory of the Russian Federation?
      But what about your statement that << ... on the territory of Russia, according to its Constitution, the only currency for carrying out commodity exchange operations is the ruble. >>? Do you have any idea who else can delegate this function to?

      At what rate I wanted at that rate and sold.
      Yeah? belay That is, Article 3 of 86-FZ has already been canceled?

      So, it is necessary for organizations-exporters to exchange the received currency from the Central Bank for rubles at the exchange rate set by the Central Bank
      And at what course should they change it, and who should determine this course?

      And what do Russian companies export? Russia exports only its raw materials
      Is the Central Bank to blame for this too?

      no export of raw materials - no rubles in the Russian economy
      Hello, we arrived - does our economy consist only of the export of raw materials?

      Yes, the Central Bank received the currency, but instead of buying something on it, it stores this currency in the gold and foreign exchange reserves of Russia (hereinafter referred to as the gold and foreign currency reserves)
      And what should the Central Bank acquire? And where did foreign-made goods come from in the Russian Federation - maybe not all the currency goes to gold reserves?
      And what are the functions of gold reserves you can tell?

      What happens to currency in gold reserves? It is disposed of by inflation.
      That is, in your gold and foreign currency reserves is a bunch of dough lying without movement? laughing

      Under the Russian Constitution, the Central Bank can keep money in gold reserves almost forever, until they all depreciate
      Where is it written in the Constitution and when was Article 4 of 86-FZ repealed?

      The US Federal Reserve, having received Russian raw materials, prints a new dollar mass equal to the one for which this raw material was purchased
      What is gold reserves?

      Result: raw materials and money in the USA, rubles in Russia.
      And goods in warehouses deteriorate ... laughing
  16. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 13 December 2013 11: 19
    +2
    Quote: "... more than 99% in the country want to remove Chubais and the like (we will not say where), but for less than 1% he is a benefactor"

    If our rulers heard the "voice of the people", Chubais would have been in "places not so remote" for a long time... And our "dear" deputies would not pass laws that leave people with less and less hope for a better life. The oligarchs are flourishing, the common people are vegetating - this is the main result of the work of our government.
  17. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 12: 37
    +3
    Quote: My address
    More on the topic of payment.
    In the workshop in the 90's it was that the foremen and the beginning. shifts sometimes earned more than me. For what the beginning. The department of labor of the enterprise reprimanded me. But when I once said that there is no work, and even there is no money to pay for labor, I myself found a team of the best technologists, workers, locksmiths, electricians, crane operators, etc. with two masters and for two shifts they plowed perfectly. Two months later they paid them.

    --------------------------------
    I have not encountered such cases, to be honest ... As for the distortions in payment at your enterprise, it is necessary for your labor department to understand ... What prices are guided by it and how reasonable are they ... I write about what it has place all the time ...
    Of course, not every engineer is a specialist and vice versa, and even more so now it doesn’t hurt where you’ll get settled ... For bosses, an engineer is generally a person who must solve a bunch of problems for free — write a draft order correctly, draw a draft, calculate the cost of the project, call suppliers and choose the best one, compile a bill of materials, draw up a schedule for the release of the product without delay, master the design in 3-D, be able to replace any unit in the production, from a locksmith to the head of the workshop ... These are the requirements now put forward by the boss ... And you say ...
    1. My address
      13 December 2013 13: 36
      +2
      Yes, I created this imbalance!
      The workshop worked disgustingly and upon appointment I insisted on new Provisions for payment. He tied everyone to the shipment of products, subject to the following standards: expenditure coefficient for procurement, consumables and semi-finished products; quality, etc. All but me and the deputies. The results were stunning, which I did not even hope for. Zamov I could reward from ext. provisions for saving. Naturally, there is no self.
      And on the proposals of the labor department to eliminate distortions, he proposed to go to the general, but warned that I would bring a letter of resignation with me.
      Then I had a seven-hour working day, from 7 to 19 (except for the downtime of the workshop), but how interesting it was to work in a great team!
      For information - I'm far from an angel and not a child prodigy. A production teacher who worked in this workshop in the 60's helped me with advice, and a friend, beg. another workshop.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 14 December 2013 06: 19
        +1
        Quote: My address
        He tied everyone to the shipment of products, subject to the following standards: expenditure coefficient for procurement, consumables and semi-finished products; quality, etc.

        In principle, you are talking about a brigade system of remuneration and cost accounting (the Japanese call it a quality system, recognize it as a national feature and are very proud of it). The full implementation of such a payment system on a national scale means the collapse of imperialism and the transition to socialism)). To understand: I think that in the USSR one of the highest forms of imperialism was realized - state capitalism. Socialism-was not)).
        1. corn
          corn 14 December 2013 10: 03
          0
          CTEPX
          Quote
          "I believe that one of the highest forms of imperialism, state capitalism, was realized in the USSR. There was no socialism."
          I agree with you, only this form is called state-monopoly capitalism and the concept was introduced by V. I. Lenin in the work “Imperialism, as the highest stage of capitalism”.
          If you discard the ideological shell, the bottom line is this.
          For fans to argue: in Soviet political economy
          there were two concepts of the same phenomenon — surplus value (according to Marx) for capitalism and a surplus product (I don’t know who invented it) for what was called socialism.
  18. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 13: 50
    0
    Quote: My address
    He tied everyone to the shipment of products, subject to the following standards: expenditure coefficient for procurement, consumables and semi-finished products; quality, etc.

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    In fact, this is tantamount to fulfilling the plan 100% under socialism ... Now it is unlikely to meet this, any work given has a complexity factor, and for work in the 3rd category they will fill in the 3rd category, whoever fulfills it ... Good bonuses are paid if work requires tight deadlines ... And so, the usual progression of 30-40% ...
  19. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 14: 02
    +2
    So I began to work as a working technologist and began to begin. technological workshop. And the technologists in it from the slinger to the deputy. beg. technology workshops. And not just engineers in the technology bureau, one of which you, apparently, are. Locksmiths, electricians at the deputy for equipment.
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    Alexander, to be honest, did not meet such a production unit as a technological workshop, and I even vaguely imagine what he is doing ... Is this something like a workshop for manufacturing new and experimental products? Or something else? I would like to understand the essence of this production unit ... I have never met workers-technologists either and do not know their skill level ... So if we are talking about different things, then I'm sorry ... In general, I would like to understand the functionality of your workshop. .. I actually now work with a private trader, in its pure form neither a technologist nor a designer, everything is complex ... I used to be just an engineer, and the head of the department, and the technical director ... In general, nothing interesting ...
    1. My address
      13 December 2013 14: 52
      +2
      There is an electrical shop, energy (heat, compressed air), mechanical, etc. They are called auxiliary. I don’t like this definition, it’s like second-rate, I consider them supply shops. And the so-called basic in the production of finished products, but I call them technological. There are technological sections, which are called technological (electrolysis, forging, heat treatment, assembly). In the special literature, those directly working on the units (not on the assembly) are called the general word "technologists", sometimes "operators", which is not quite. The technologist sets up, leads the process, controls; and the operator, by definition, only manages the already configured one.
      I’ll repeat it again. If a person is respected and tried to pay (provide for needs), then in 99% he will return a hundredfold.

      All the best. hi
  20. sasska
    sasska 13 December 2013 14: 03
    +2
    Quote: Pinochet000
    Quote: My address
    See what is written in "Personnel is everything"

    + I.V. Stalin has matured to the root ...

    well, actually saw
  21. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 14: 09
    +3
    Quote: Andrey57
    On average, 220 billion dollars are conserved in the gold and foreign currency reserves of the Central Bank per year, which is comparable to half the budget of the entire country. It cannot be called otherwise than a foreign tribute.

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    About half of this amount is still exported from the country annually ... So who are we working for? But the liberals shouted at the time that we were financing Communist Parties with crazy money ... Well, now who are we financing?
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 13 December 2013 15: 13
      +1
      That amount. about which you are talking about, this is a banal export of stolen goods, since it is impossible to earn such money even in theory using the existing tax and financial system. hi
  22. Anatolich
    Anatolich 13 December 2013 14: 36
    +2
    No need to deal with nonsense in the direction of engineering and pouring mud on them ... If you don’t like the technologist, then dismiss and do not need to do demagogy ... The technologist can calculate the entire manufacturing process of the product, suggest solutions, indicate bottlenecks and suggest replacement of material and TP ... For example ... A worker solves completely different tasks, he is engaged in manufacturing ... If it is not provided with necessary and clearly posed problem, then there may not be a result ...
    It says about an excellent repairman and average technologist, because the mistake of this technologist can cause great damage to the enterprise. It’s easy to fire, you can fire endlessly, but to no avail. It is more difficult to educate and help to gain experience, especially in our time of all kinds of managers, lawyers and marketers.
  23. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 14: 52
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    Quote: Anatolich
    because the mistake of this technologist can cause great damage to the enterprise.

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    What is so much damage to the enterprise? The cost of ruined metal per shift? Pfff, this is the maximum, and that is unlikely to stop both the Quality Control Department, the head of the workshop, and anyone ... The financial director with a stroke of the pen can dust the enterprise’s efforts for ten years, spend money inefficiently, miscalculate the terms of the contract ...
  24. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2013 17: 03
    0
    Quote: My address
    In the special literature, those directly working on the units (not on the assembly) are called the general word "technologists", sometimes "operators", which is not quite. The technologist sets up, leads the process, controls; and the operator, by definition, only manages the already configured one.

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    If a worker works on a simple machine, such as a band saw or any cutting-off, or on generally simple equipment, even if he can set it up, for example, change the cutting speed depending on the metal, then of course his qualifications are small ... Such machines can to master in one shift ... Even to connect it yourself, if purely manual control ... Of course, the qualification of such a worker is lower than the qualification of a mechanic-assembler and, moreover, mechanic of mechanical assembly work ... But still, all the workers are needed, all the workers are important .. .No normal payment, no one will take up such monotonous work, and mostly women work on such equipment ...
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 13 December 2013 18: 55
    0
    Gold currency

    Because the main function of gold reserves is to maintain the ruble exchange rate in the conditions of its convertibility.
    At the same time, the cushioning pillow (ZVR) must be stored somewhere, and so that its moth does not eat.
    So they keep them in different "baskets" - in gold, in. currencies, etc.: in fact, it happens as with a person who has money, when he lets part of the money into a rather risky venture, and gives the other part (gold reserves in our case) to a relatively reliable bank, but at a minimum interest.

    But for what we are using the stabilization fund according to the gold and foreign currency reserves scheme, instead of investing in roads and the real sector, this is a question for the government and Putin personally, who organized this insanity.
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  27. corn
    corn 14 December 2013 00: 14
    +1
    Auto RU.
    If we compare a good, modern cart and an outdated car made using technology 50 years ago, we can conclude about the advantages of a cart over a car.
    The average worker cannot and should not earn even more than a bad director (a bad director will be kicked out quickly).
    If your workers earned more than your deputy, then you were guided by the principle: divide and rule (entertained your vanity).
    I correctly understood from the article that you were not the first person of the enterprise? (By this I mean the head of the entire enterprise, and not a separate structural unit).
    1. My address
      14 December 2013 08: 47
      0
      Sergey Valentinovich!
      I could reward deputies, I am not. And the director did not spoil me very well and did the right thing.
  28. corn
    corn 14 December 2013 00: 48
    +1
    Auto RU.
    I re-read your article and all your answers to the comments again.
    The word "imperialism" has at least two interpretations:
    -the highest and last stage of monopoly capitalism;
    -state policy aimed at maintaining unequal relations.
    Many of your statements are controversial.
    I don’t want to arrange specific discussion, it will be uninteresting to most.
    You want to write in a personal, but it is unlikely that I can convince you of anything.
  29. Lesnik
    Lesnik 14 December 2013 01: 30
    +1
    As far as I understand, you dear want to hear the opinion and assessments of your life position and conclusions from the reality around us from outside? So this is how they say in Odessa "I have them" wink
    [quot]
    About criticism
    No complex system works fine without criticism and self-criticism. In technology, this is negative feedback. In the planning of any process, it is necessary to include a debriefing, but not soothing - like the last congresses of the CPSU. [/ Quote]

    Until the system has worked out the full management (production) cycle (and as a rule it is much more than a month or sometimes a year), waiting for an objective assessment (criticism) is not thankful.

    [quot] Imperialism
    We live in the era of imperialism. And imperialism of the West. Western statements about the inadmissibility of an empire led by Russia are the usual substitution of concepts and a disguise of aspirations to devour us. In 1993, ordinary capitalism was created here. Dissenters please familiarize yourself with the concept of "imperialism." [/ Quote]

    Let me slightly correct "oligarchic capitalist imperialism"

    [quot] Frames decide everything
    Only lieutenants / masters / clerks take a person without experience, but with a special education. At the positions above, people are already selected with relevant positive experience and knowledge. Some are tested and tested on a polygraph. About testing: modern methods allow to determine not only the inclinations of a person, but also to find out if he is not deceiving when answering questions. I propose to select top positions by well-known personnel techniques. Also make public the official instructions of high-ranking officials, from heads of departments / corporations to the prime minister, in which to provide for increased responsibility along with an increase in rights and duties.
    Napoleon said that the highest obscenity is to take up a business that you cannot do. My mother said that bad work is akin to theft. [/ Quote]

    In our reality, it is sometimes easier to destroy the ENTIRE structure than to move some "frame".
    In my practice, I came across a case when a clever person was clever and simply an Artilleryman (with a capital letter) the unit commander deservedly respected by subordinates and, oddly enough, civilian bosses were not allowed to a managerial position only because during testing he answered questions like Unit commander, i.e. I used to always and in everything took responsibility. What the testing program could not evaluate request

    [quot] Children
    My children more or less took place. Grandchildren go to school. I hope for them. But I know that even if they are gold, they will not succeed above a certain level. As the "Marshal" Romanov said well, only the children of senior officials are geniuses. [/ Quote]
    They are different children. The main thing is that the parents are right. wink
    [quot] Justice
    One of the foundations of the world. About thirty years ago, I realized that everyone in the production does everything from a cleaner. It’s just that someone is doing good, and someone is doing badly. That dividing into main and auxiliary is stupid. An excellent repairman needs to pay more than an average manufacturing technologist. [/ quote]
    Here with this statement I fully agree good
    I hope I correctly understood your goal.
    1. My address
      14 December 2013 08: 30
      +2
      Dear Ivan!

      It's nice to deal with a knowledgeable and thinking person. I wanted to talk about my experience, it’s bad that I did not think up the article ten times.
      I did not expand the theses, otherwise who will read, for example, about the "quality loop" in the paragraph on criticism. He did not write about our comprador, treacherous bourgeoisie - they will not publish it because of fears for the fate of the site, but he said that we have capitalism so that they do not bother with the "market economy". I forgot to advise you to think over actions not only in space, but also in time. In terms of personnel, I think that in the selection, one should be guided by all known methods (as you understood, you know that there is nothing absolutely reliable and will not be, but you need to strive for this). I suggest looking at my comments.

      All the best. hi
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 14 December 2013 13: 35
        +2
        Dear Alexander hi You are well done! good not everyone will be able to formulate their thoughts and even more so put them on public display, I will repeat SO HOLD !!!!
  30. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 December 2013 13: 48
    +2
    Higher technical education. Production activities began as workers, which turned into a bunch of pluses in understanding the behavior of subordinates. Supervised by nearly eight hundred. Forty years of production experience. On the street workers shake hands.
    I put you a plus ..! Well written and it feels good from the heart and honestly and this is important! ..! Write more .. I’m happy to read! (Otherwise, the Wassermans pick themselves professionally in the souls.)
    Good luck to you!