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Food security of the Russian Federation. Successes and failures. Part of 1. Battle of the harvest

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There are many different rumors about our land that we will not feed ourselves, and if something happens, we all will have a kirdyk, respectively, we need to urgently do justice through a revolution. And such an ordinary meme, as "the rapid decomposition of agriculture as an industry," many have already rubbed corn on the ears.


In this article, we just look at the figures provided by Rosstat for the period from 1999 to 2012. It must be said that the topic turned out to be very extensive, and in order to fully cover it, it would be necessary to divide it into three parts.

Food security of the Russian Federation. Successes and failures. Part of 1. Battle of the harvest

During the election battles, bloggers known to us all organized “exposing” research in various areas, criticizing everyone and everything and prophesying the imminent end of the world if nothing changes. The elections were held, and stuffing remained and periodically pop up in online discussions on the topic "Who Lives Well in Russia." One vivid example of such “enlightenment of zombies” was the action in the St. Petersburg metro called "Good car of truth". The essence of the action was to glue all the cars of one of the subway trains with agitation with various charts and comments to them. Naturally, judging by the graphs, the cardiogram of our economy and in general of everything and everything tends to an even horizontal position with a lingering “piiiiiii” sound.



Especially amused by the way they assessed their activities based on reviews on the Internet, I quote: "According to the network, reviews of grateful metro passengers sound mostly like this:" Thank you very much, dear Naganoff and unknown activists of DSPA, I was befuddled with commercial advertising in the metro and was already thinking of buying a new and completely unnecessary product for me, but I read the posters in the Good Full Wagon of Truth. I learned a lot about my country and realized that it was impossible to continue this way, but in the meantime, after reading your posters, I drove my stop and, returning in the usual wagon, I decided that tomorrow I'll go to m wind and glue something, because the truth, unlike advertising, is so cool! "

I must say that many of the theses cited on the campaigns have already been broken to pieces both on this resource and on many other sites, some are still waiting for their turn.

Here is one of the “masterpieces” of that “Wagon of Truth”, which concerns agriculture, although it would be more appropriate to change the last word for another - a half-truth. So, we look:



I must say that the numbers and data are not particularly falsified, and they are real. But only to give figures in isolation from the general dynamics - a favorite method of demagogues, hamsters and just people with "active citizenship". For example, as I mentioned in the previous notes, they may shout that the population over the past 13 years has decreased by 6,5 million. People don’t lie if 2012 is taken away from the 1999 year, but that fact that the rate of natural decline, as well as the rate of reduction of the total population of the Russian Federation, declined all this time, the birth rate grew, and since 2010, the population of the Russian Federation began to increase, and has already grown by 1,3 million, they do not care. Prices for roads in Sochi or any other place are also calculated, for example, at a junction in Moscow, they take the cost and length of the road, and then divide one by the other and get a transcendental figure, under a “billion” per kilometer, while they are not the presence of bridges, interchanges, underground passages, difficult terrain, permafrost and other things, also ignores the fact that in most western sources the price of a road is given with the price of land for which this road passes and other expenses not connected from the very close Asphalt, but this does not prevent them from comparing the West and the Russian Federation.

Let's correct this "mistake" of our "truth-keepers" and consider the situation with the sown areas in the complex.

The material is submitted in such a way that after reading "the acreage decreased", and the first thing that comes to mind to the reader is the thesis: "We grow fewer products." Let's see if this is true.

This is a graph of the gross harvest of cereals and leguminous crops, and the proportion of wheat is also visible next to it. By the way, in all graphs in this note there is data for 1990 year, as a guideline for the USSR, the truth must be borne in mind that this reference point is dependent on such unpredictable things as the weather. But for this we have a very poor 2010 year, respectively, taking into account both parameters, we can understand how things actually happened in the 1999 year, and in the following ones.



And what do we see? With the reduction of acreage, the volume of production is not something that has not decreased, but doubled in the super-fertile 2008 year and never fell below the 99 level of the year, even in the most lean years, although 1999 had a fora in 9,5 million hectares! And if we compare it with the Soviet 1990, then the 1999 had a complete failure - a two-fold drop. By the way, judging by news from the fields, the 2013 year will once again disappoint our Pozzreots.

Now let's go through other types of agricultural products, not only cereals and legumes, but also some vegetables and industrial crops.

And the first in line we have buckwheat and rice.



Both there and there we see that, in terms of gross volumes of the collection of the Russian Federation, it was equal to that of the USSR, the same can be said about rice.
Next, look at the fees of potatoes. Potatoes - the second bread. It seems that Catherine still spoke out about this when she tried. So the need for it (not in Catherine, in potatoes) is always high.



As you can see, potato harvest volumes are stable throughout the entire time.

Next we have vegetables (potatoes are not included). Absolutely empty in terms of caloric content of the product (although there are vitamins there), which speaks only about the diversity of the table. How can you do - you will not die of hunger, but with vegetables - more fun. Thus, the growth of the harvest of these "excesses" may well indicate some of our prosperity.



And now look at the melons. Frankly, surprised. Maybe nitrates in watermelons pour Nemer? Painfully significant growth. However, in the Soviet era, collective farm tycoons were doing it with might and main. In general, a mystery. But the watermelons are full, it's true.



Based on the above graphs, we can conclude that the reduction in acreage did not lead to something tragic, since we are seeing an increase in the collection of main crops. Remember how we are in the classroom stories talked about the "unkeeped peasants in Russia" who were engaged in extensive farming and practiced such a method as the "three-field", while in Europe they were already using the intensive method, i.e. increased crop yields? So let's look at the yield of the same wheat or vegetables in Russia over the past 13 years.




As we can see, the yield is growing, and on average has increased by 25-35% for the main types of crops (data can be checked in the GCS database), which is good news. The acreage has indeed declined. How do you make the farmer sow more? Gosplanom, or what? Or maybe the NKVD-GPU-ChK arrange in the fields? This is when the Soviet Union there was a plan for seeding. And now capitalism and the new rules of the game. For ten years, such conditions have been created that farmers buy more productive varieties of grain, more productive equipment, enough money for reclamation. And gradually everything "flooded" up. And the data of the State Statistics Committee, which for some reason are not given by all propals, confirm this fully. I personally have no doubts: by the end of the next five-year plan, the main indicators of the Russian Federation’s C / X will double with respect to 1999.

Now look at the number of vehicles in the industry. Based on the above information, we can say that the current indicators of gross yield and yield are quite comparable with those of Soviet times. Accordingly, if the equipment of those years was working on the fields now (this is me about efficiency), then the fees would directly depend on its - technology - quantity.

But that's what we see.




We see a “catastrophic” drop in the number of all types of agricultural equipment, I don’t argue that this isn’t quite good, but knowing that the volumes of fees or crops do not suffer from this, I can confidently say that the fleet of agricultural equipment in Russia is antediluvian, but on the contrary, in recent years it has been seriously modernized, if I am wrong, then it means that we dig up the fields with the help of horses, and we harvest wheat with a sickle.

conclusions:
1) The current main indicators of the agricultural sector of the Russian Federation are comparable to those of the USSR, but still slightly lagging behind.

2) In modern Russia, harvest harvests are increasing not due to an increase in acreage, but due to modern technologies for increasing yields.

3) The park of agricultural equipment in Russia is almost completely updated on the same equipment, but with great efficiency.


In the next part we will talk about another industry with / x, such as animal husbandry.

PS Since this article is just one part of the three, I ask you, dear readers, to rate the article, and all of your constructive remarks and constructive critic to place in the comments to the last (third) part. Thank.
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Articles from this series:
Food security of the Russian Federation. Successes and failures. Part of 1. Battle of the harvest
Food security of the Russian Federation. Successes and failures. Part of 2. A lot of bread is good, a lot of meat is better
Food security of the Russian Federation. Successes and failures. Part of 3. Dry residue
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  1. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 07: 39
    +2
    I think our problems in the countryside are high prices for fuel and spare parts from here and all the problems of farmers

    how to deal with it

    as I think, why not make agricultural machinery electrically driven and also conduct electricity to the fields

    because in many cities there are tram trolleybuses and for them this process was much more difficult (it's just my balls do not throw stones)
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 08: 27
      0
      THE MODERATOR MISTAKED WITH ORDER OF ABZATSES, CX TECHNIQUE AND CONCLUSIONS MUST GO AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE !!!!!
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 14 December 2013 16: 02
      +1
      Statistics is a tricky science, indicators of changes in economic sectors depending on the political order or, at the request of one or another "author", you can show both "good" and "bad" pictures.
      А it is necessary to show an objective picture of the change, and for this it is necessary first of all not to be politicized and to choose the comparison criteria correctly.
      The author criticizes, as he says, "truth-lovers" and for the "objectivity" of the picture of the development of the agricultural sector he compares it to 1990.
      And this is the wrong critical time span.
      In order to get a real picture of the changes in the agricultural sector in Russia, it is necessary to take a comparison not with 1990, with the already collapsed Gorbachev economy, but a successful 1985, before the notorious Perestroika.
      Only then can we compare what we had and what we lost in agriculture during the collapse of the collective and state farm system of management and the transition to the current "farmer" one.
      And so, this is an amateur profanation, and not objective statistics on changes in the industry.
      1. sledgehammer102
        14 December 2013 17: 07
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        But it is necessary to show an objective picture of change, and for this it is necessary first of all to be not politicized and to choose the comparison criteria correctly.

        The 1990 year is taken only to understand how much the industry has sunk over the 10 years.
        The purpose of the article is not to compare the USSR and the Russian Federation, but to show how events have developed in dynamics over the past 22 years.

        Quote: vladimirZ
        depending on the political order or at the request of this or that "author", one can show both "good" and "bad" pictures.


        I will be grateful if you will be constructive. Where did I lie and what important things did I not outline ??? The picture is the way it is, and lectures on how to show the desired picture can be taken from the youngsters from a half-truth car.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 14 December 2013 17: 54
          +1
          sledgehammer102
          The purpose of the article is not to compare the USSR and the Russian Federation, but to show how events have developed in dynamics over the past 22 years.


          So you are such a "fellow from the car of half-truths."
          What is the use of comparing in the same system of collapse of the agricultural industry in Russia, when agricultural fields have been abandoned for the most part of the country, thousands if not tens of thousands of villages have been eliminated, the rural people are getting drunk from idleness and lack of money.
          You compare with 1985 and show that we lost in the production of agricultural products when changing the organization of production, so that everyone, including those in power, would understand that the future lies with large agricultural producers, and not with small farmers who are barely making ends make ends.
          The situation in agriculture in Russia needs to be changed radically, and therefore statistics should be objective.
          1. sledgehammer102
            14 December 2013 18: 31
            0
            Quote: vladimirZ
            So you are such a "fellow from the car of half-truths."

            Where is it?? Did I lie? Hid? Hid it?

            Quote: vladimirZ
            What is the use of comparing in the same system of collapse of the agricultural industry in Russia, when agricultural fields have been abandoned for the most part of the country, thousands if not tens of thousands of villages have been eliminated, the rural people are getting drunk from idleness and lack of money.

            Therefore, probably we are seeing an increase in productivity, milk production, slaughter weighing meat products, a decrease in food imports and so on ?? Once again, the purpose of the article is not to compare the USSR with the Russian Federation, but to show the dynamics of the development of various sectors of the agricultural sector in the country over the past 13 years. 1990 year, given as a kind of benchmark in order to assess the incompetence of effective managers 90 years, no more
  2. Sirs
    Sirs 14 December 2013 07: 58
    +4
    In order to exist one must eat, and in order to live one must eat well. So eat foreigners live foreigners, and we exist; eat your own - we live by ourselves.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 08: 45
      0
      Quote: Sirs
      In order to exist one must eat, and in order to live one must eat well. So eat foreigners live foreigners, and we exist; eat your own - we live by ourselves.

      Read the article to the end. And see how much foreign we eat
    2. Olegovich
      Olegovich 14 December 2013 15: 56
      +1
      Quote: Sirs
      In order to exist one must eat, and in order to live one must eat well. So eat foreigners live foreigners, and we exist; eat your own - we live by ourselves.

      Indeed, why read the articles if the goal is all too early one - to dump shit.
      Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer? laughing
  3. Averias
    Averias 14 December 2013 08: 27
    +7
    Good morning everyone! I have not been buying imported products for a long time, or rather, I have reduced it to a minimum (as I always ask my friends to bring tequila and rum, as well as ground coffee and beans, cigarettes). Everything else, I only consume ours. I live in Tyumen, we provide ourselves with chicken, pork, dairy products. In pork, in general, they came out almost first in the country. We supply to other areas. The same goes for fish. I haven't bought Norwegian salmon for a long time (especially after I visited Norway). We are now growing their own cage nursery very well. Before that he lived in Nizhnevartovsk, the products of our meat workshops were transported by trucks to the "mainland". All my acquaintances, when I was going to them, asked me to bring our sausages and other meat products. So it's not so sad as they pile on us. Various imported bags of poisonous colors, milk chocolate (in which there is no chocolate) struck off the shopping list. I notice the same thing with other customers in stores. They take ours, and carefully study the label. They look at the manufacturer so as not to run into an inscription with the name of a foreign company. One thing saddens when young mothers collect all bright and imported dregs in their baskets. And they feed their children.
    In general, they lie to us once again.
    1. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 08: 43
      +1
      you probably from united Russia

      or super patriot


      in real life, everything is very bad in agriculture throughout the country
      1. sledgehammer102
        14 December 2013 08: 46
        0
        Quote: j iz sibiri
        in real life, everything is very bad in agriculture throughout the country


        All graphs indicate that in many industries we have a problem, but at the same time, there is quite obvious positive dynamics. So your statement is wrong.
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 14 December 2013 09: 03
          +7
          No need to talk about the whole country, everywhere in different ways. In our Bryansk region, agricultural lands that are abandoned 20 years ago and overgrown with forests are actively being put into circulation.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 14 December 2013 10: 34
            +6
            Quote: sergey32
            In our Bryansk region, agricultural lands that are abandoned 20 years ago and overgrown with forests are actively being put into circulation.


            The same is true in Belgorod, Kaluga, Oryol, Lipetsk, Voronezh ....
        2. j iz sibiri
          j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 10: 43
          +2
          where natural products in stores dear
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 14 December 2013 10: 33
        +2
        Quote: j iz sibiri
        in real life, everything is very bad in agriculture throughout the country


        The usual logic of a person who knows nothing but has his own opinion wassat . I ride a lot around the country, and I often communicate with farmers - everything works fine with the person who works. Of course, not like cheese in butter, but every year my farmer neighbor can change cars every year.
        1. j iz sibiri
          j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 10: 49
          +1
          I live in the countryside and see what is happening in the Tomsk Region WITHIN 100 KM from the city there are still state farmers, etc. But then all the fields are overgrown

          and you can see how you ride around the country and see
          office troll
          1. sledgehammer102
            14 December 2013 11: 02
            +2
            Quote: j iz sibiri
            I live in the countryside and see what is happening in the Tomsk Region WITHIN 100 KM from the city there are still state farmers, etc. But then all the fields are overgrown


            You can write a lot, about how bad it is, for example, with growing grain in the Yamalo Nenets Autonomous Okrug or somewhere else. But there is a fact, and he is next.

            With a reduction in sowing, grain harvest is growing, and almost reached the Soviet indicators of the RSFSR, which had a handicap of several tens of millions of hectares, including the Tomsk region.
            1. j iz sibiri
              j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 11: 15
              -1
              as the contraction grows
              1. Gecko
                Gecko 14 December 2013 12: 04
                +2
                Do you know the concept of efficiency?
          2. Botanologist
            Botanologist 14 December 2013 15: 22
            +2
            Quote: j iz sibiri
            I live in the countryside and see what is happening in the Tomsk region


            And there are no fields at all on the Land of St. Franz Joseph! They brought the country!
            Have you seriously recorded the Tomsk region in the grain-growing region, or do you need to plow from the principle wherever the surface slope is less than 30 degrees?
      3. Averias
        Averias 14 December 2013 12: 16
        0
        And you yourself, which manufacturer’s products are you buying?
      4. aleksandroff
        aleksandroff 14 December 2013 15: 54
        +2
        To talk about real, you need to know him. And you are apparently from Moscow and therefore do not know what is happening in the country's agriculture. And the stores we take are mainly ours, Russian or Belarusian. And you are not a patriot - it can be seen, but a swamp breeder. As my friend, a farmer says it’s bad for someone who doesn’t work. And no matter how bad it is for you, I’ll say that the country is rising. Pay attention to the products in the store and you will see almost all of them are Russian or Belarusian, even sweets and chocolates.
  4. ole
    ole 14 December 2013 08: 33
    +5
    Quote: Sirs
    In order to exist one must eat, and in order to live one must eat well. So eat foreigners live foreigners, and we exist; eat your own - we live by ourselves.

    All correctly wrote the import of meat and meat semi-finished products about 40%; all meat plants work on a block and soy. Milk is made 50% of imported dry. Cereals, as the author wrote, are mainly harvested in the chernozem zone. Volga region, Krasnodar Territory, southern Siberia. The center and northwest (east) are a crop failure zone. The equipment park is being updated, but all households are so credited that money for a salary of 5 thousand rubles. barely enough. In animal husbandry, cows are cut. A bunch of villages are already non-residential, there are no agricultural enterprises, so what kind of development to talk about. And cereals with GMOs and a non-harvest will give even here in Northwest.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 08: 47
      -1
      Quote: ole
      All correctly wrote the import of meat and semi-finished meat products about 40% all meat plants work on the block and soy. Milk is made on 50% of dry imported.

      Your data is not correct. Read all parts of the article.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 14 December 2013 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        Your data is not correct. Read all parts of the article.

        You know, to be honest, I don’t give a damn about your statistics, because it hardly represents the true state of affairs. I look at what is happening around. Next to me, at a dairy plant 300 meters away, I used to work as a mechanic there in the early 4s. He produces milk, yoghurts, sour cream, butter, cottage cheese, that is, the whole assortment, but does not accept milk at all from those remaining in district XNUMX of the SEC. Surprisingly isn't it? The answer is simple. Milk powder, palm fat and chemistry.
        So you need to be careful about domestic products. For reference, the import of palm fat in Russia has increased 2000-14 times compared to 15.
        1. sledgehammer102
          14 December 2013 13: 06
          0
          Quote: baltika-18
          You know, to be honest, I don’t give a damn about your statistics, because it hardly represents the true state of affairs. I look at what is happening around

          Sorry, but you can’t evaluate the general situation when looking around. And this is a typical argument when there is nothing to be said in essence.
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 14 December 2013 10: 39
      -1
      Quote: ole
      Cereals, as the author wrote, are mainly harvested in the chernozem zone. Volga region, Krasnodar Territory, southern Siberia. The center and northwest (east) are a crop failure zone.

      About the center - what regions do you mean? In Tula and Kaluga, it is very good with the harvest. As for the north-west, I would not either - I was in the summer in the Arkhangelsk region, there are a lot of my products and Vologda.
      Quote: ole
      A bunch of villages are already non-residential, there are no agricultural enterprises, so what kind of development to talk about.

      The modern world does not require a village in 1000 courtyards to process 100 thousand hectares. Therefore, the villages are dying. This is a dialectic.
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 10: 51
        +1
        in your opinion everything is fine with us

        then answer the question

        where are the natural products in stores?
        1. sledgehammer102
          14 December 2013 11: 05
          +1
          Quote: j iz sibiri
          where are the natural products in stores?


          What do you mean by natural products?
          What is your thesis "Most foods are unnatural" based on?

          You probably understand that the phrases "Go to the store", "Everyone knows" and so on are not suitable here. Therefore, I look forward to your research on "Product quality"
          1. j iz sibiri
            j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 11: 17
            0
            by natural I mean natural
            1. sledgehammer102
              14 December 2013 12: 25
              0
              Quote: j iz sibiri
              by natural I mean natural

              draining counted
          2. baltika-18
            baltika-18 14 December 2013 12: 50
            +3
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            What do you mean by natural products?

            By natural, I mean products made according to Soviet guests, and not according to technical conditions invented by "managers".
            1. sledgehammer102
              14 December 2013 13: 07
              -1
              Quote: baltika-18
              By natural, I mean products made according to Soviet guests, and not according to technical conditions invented by "managers".

              They are easy to find in any store. Price will be higher by 10-15%.
            2. Botanologist
              Botanologist 14 December 2013 15: 15
              0
              Quote: baltika-18
              By natural, I mean products made by Soviet guests,


              Well, since the article is about cereals, tell us about unnatural wheat. You are welcome.
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 14 December 2013 16: 24
                -1
                Quote: Botanologist
                Well, since the article is about cereals, tell us about unnatural wheat. You are welcome.

                The question was about products. I answered.
                1. sledgehammer102
                  14 December 2013 17: 12
                  0
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  The question was about products. I answered.

                  You shouted about your friend, who is merging chemistry under the guise of real products, so I have a question, did you write a statement to the prosecutor?

                  Moreover, even with a small desire, you can buy home-made products of a village farmer or granny in the market, the only question is the price, which will differ from the supermarket by 10-15%, and not always in flux, sometimes in the market it is cheaper and more useful, but forum shouting about it is disadvantageous
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 14 December 2013 15: 13
          +1
          Quote: j iz sibiri
          in your opinion everything is fine with us

          then answer the question

          where are the natural products in stores?


          I did not say that everything is fine with us. But "not everything is good" does not mean at all that "everything is bad".
          As for natural products - if you stop buying all kinds of yogurts, cola, imported chocolate and other crap, and you eat butter (not for 15 rubles, of course), fish, meat and so on, then the level of unnaturalness will be low. I agree that meat and chicken are village and factory, and the difference is big - but then to the market. Why whine? Or do you want to buy natural carbonate in the hypermarket at 200 rubles? Disappointing - this is not in the world at all. All natural products are bought in small shops (in Europe), in Russia - on the market.
          1. j iz sibiri
            j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 18: 13
            -2
            you do * ak or pretend
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 14 December 2013 21: 48
              -1
              Quote: j iz sibiri
              you do * ak or pretend


              I do not like minus, but you minus for rudeness. If there are no arguments, be silent or go to "classmates".
  5. Hey
    Hey 14 December 2013 08: 36
    +1
    It is not entirely clear the comparison of the entire USSR or only the RF as part of the USSR. If we compare the entire USSR with modern Russia, it is not correct, because the USSR included Ukraine, Belarus, etc.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 08: 48
      0
      Quote: MUD
      It is not entirely clear the comparison of the entire USSR or only the RF as part of the USSR. If we compare the entire USSR with modern Russia, it is not correct, because the USSR included Ukraine, Belarus, etc.


      Compares the RSFSR and the Russian Federation
  6. Fox
    Fox 14 December 2013 09: 19
    +4
    the charts are interesting. But I believe more: I live in the village myself. There are NO cows, there are no fields, there is no equipment. In the 80% import store - (I work in trade). Can the author tell me where the milk is taken when there is no cattle? area, if that ...
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 10: 29
      -3
      Quote: Fox
      the charts are interesting. But I believe more: I live in the village myself. There are NO cows, there are no fields, there is no equipment. In the 80% import store - (I work in trade). Can the author tell me where the milk is taken when there is no cattle? area, if that ...


      Give specific numbers and sources, then we'll figure it out.
      Retail imports 30-35%, separately meat 25-30%, dairy products 10-15%.
      Read all the parts to the end.
    2. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 10: 54
      0
      Yes, I completely agree with you
      I don’t understand where they are doing so well.
  7. demotivator
    demotivator 14 December 2013 09: 21
    +5
    If everything is so good and joyful, then why are agricultural products produced, for example, in Belarus, snapped up and ours, Russian, stale in warehouses and counters? And then, people do not eat tables and charts, and not presidential promises in his annual messages, but specific products - bread, meat, milk, and so on. So, I began to notice that even in our hospitable Stavropol Territory in recent years the bread has sharply "gotten worse" in terms of quality - on the second day it starts to spoil. What grain is it made of? It is the same with dairy products - it is impossible to eat what is sold in stores, one continuous synthetics, and not milk. There is also meat, but it is very suspicious, it tastes completely different than it was before, when it was grown according to old Soviet technologies. And this, I repeat, in the fertile Stavropol region! In the Kuban and Don - everything is the same, I answer. However, let's wait for the remaining second and third episodes, what else will the author sing to us !?
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 10: 31
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      However, let's wait for the remaining second and third series, what else will the author sing to us there !?


      They have already left, links at the end of the article, I don’t sing, but I give specific statistics about the situation in different sectors of agriculture.


      Quote: demotivator
      And this, I repeat, in the fertile Stavropol Territory! In the Kuban and the Don - all the same, I answer.


      You are not on the street, and it is time to remove the words "I answer" from the lexicon. Just send me a link to research your milk and everything else you wrote.
  8. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver 14 December 2013 10: 28
    +3
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    All graphs indicate that in many industries we have a problem, but at the same time, there is quite obvious positive dynamics. So your statement is wrong.

    I will say about the Tver region. We currently do not have a single large poultry farm; eggs and meat are purchased in other regions. Pig production has been destroyed as an industry due to African swine fever (ASF). Even wild boars were shot. Fields are overgrown mainly due to the redistribution of agricultural enterprises, the land was bought up, but still has not been cultivated. The regional leadership succeeded only in compiling reports that everything was fine with us. Periodically, some programs are taken to replenish the branches of the agro-industrial complex, money is allocated, but disappear somewhere. Take a ride in the Tver region, see everywhere devastation. The price of potatoes is comparable to the price of bananas and oranges (which we do not grow). A stable agricultural enterprise is the exception rather than the rule. Almost no technology. If you do not believe me, I can give links to publications in the media about the state of affairs in agriculture in the Tver region.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 11: 07
      -1
      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      If you do not believe me, I can give links to publications in the media about the state of affairs in agriculture in the Tver region.

      The article does not set the goal to say that everything is fine with us. The findings talk about problems and dynamics.
      1) There are many problems.
      2) The dynamics are positive and inspire cautious optimism.
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 14 December 2013 15: 18
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      Quote: Andrey from Tver
      Take a ride in the Tver region, see everywhere devastation.


      Dear, Tver has never been an agricultural land. You’ll take a ride to Chukotka - in general, apart from dwarf birch and dwarf, nothing grows. So what? Will we plow the swamp?
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 15 December 2013 11: 20
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        Dear, Tver has never been an agricultural land. You’ll take a ride to Chukotka - in general, apart from dwarf birch and dwarf, nothing grows. So what? Will we plow the swamp?

        Dear Botanologist! I give a link to Wikipedia on the state of affairs in agriculture in the Tver region:
        The total area of ​​farmland is 2434,6 thousand ha, of which more than 60% under arable land. Sown area of ​​more than 898,9 thousand ha (2001), of which 200,3 thousand ha are occupied under grain crops, long-flax flax - 22,1 thousand ha, potatoes - 49,2 thousand ha and vegetables - 10,6, XNUMX thousand ha.
        The region’s agriculture specializes in dairy and beef cattle breeding. and flax growing. Significantly developed pig breeding and poultry farming. Sowing of rye, oats, fodder crops; potatoes, vegetables.http: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%E2%E5%F0%F1%EA%E0%FF_%EE%E1%EB%E0%


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        As you can see, there is something to plow. Rather, it used to be. And pig and poultry farming is now completely destroyed. Links to give information about this?
        P.S. Swamps are also available, these are beautiful hunting grounds, currently bought by all sorts of visitors, and nobody will let you plow them. wink
  9. sashka
    sashka 14 December 2013 10: 46
    +2
    Why does everyone just have a normal job, and we always have a BATTLE .. HUMANLY LEARNED?
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 11: 07
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      Why does everyone just have a normal job, and we always have a BATTLE .. HUMANLY LEARNED?


      Phraseologism, however ....
    2. Fox
      Fox 14 December 2013 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: Sasha
      Why does everyone just have a normal job, and we always have a BATTLE .. HUMANLY LEARNED?

      there is such a book "why Russia is not america" ​​-author A. Parshin, that's where everything is chewed completely. read (if you master 300 pages) and understand everything. shortly-climate.
  10. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 14 December 2013 11: 33
    +2
    Have to ride around Moscow. Along the way you can see abandoned fields covered with tall weeds and young birches. Hundreds of hectares (and maybe thousands) of unused agricultural land. And in Soviet times Moscow was fed from these fields. Who is feeding her now? Abroad... Well, abandoned fields will soon grow cottage villages.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Hundreds of hectares (and maybe thousands) of unused agricultural land. And in Soviet times Moscow was fed from these fields. Who is feeding her now? Abroad...


      The share of imports in food is 30-35%, in 99 it was 50-60, or should I recall the bush legs?
    2. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 14 December 2013 16: 13
      +3
      In the suburbs, there is really no gas. We already had gas in Mordovia in the 90s, even in small villages. Three huge poultry farms. Several meat plants and dairies. People are given money for raising livestock at home, for development. And not for 50000 rubles, but for 1000000 to 1500000 rubles. I have two friends who started their livestock raising business thanks to this program. Stores are littered with their products, and people have at least pees in their eyes ....... All-shiver damn it.
  11. alone
    alone 14 December 2013 11: 52
    +3
    I looked at the charts and didn’t understand anything. The agricultural machinery fleet is getting smaller and smaller every year, the sown area has been reduced by 10 mln Ga for 9,5 years. In this situation it’s unrealistic to talk about increasing the productivity of agricultural products.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 12: 29
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      Quote: lonely
      I looked at the charts and didn’t understand anything. The agricultural machinery fleet is getting smaller and smaller every year, the sown area has been reduced by 10 mln Ga for 9,5 years. In this situation it’s unrealistic to talk about increasing the productivity of agricultural products.


      With a decrease in sown area, we see an increase in grain harvest, which indicates an increase in yield.

      CX technology is changing to a new, more productive and economical to use. One New Holland combine will make many times more than the Soviet Niva
  12. andrey777
    andrey777 14 December 2013 12: 02
    +1
    What can I say, if they began to sell grain abroad.
  13. runway
    runway 14 December 2013 12: 41
    +2
    The author argues that the negative data on agriculture in Russia are "hamster stuffing." But then: According to the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation From 2008 to 2011, the total area of ​​agricultural land in Russia decreased by 9,8 million hectares.
    According to the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation, From 1990 to 2011, 23 thousand settlements disappeared in the country, 20 thousand of this number - villages and towns. Do you think the Accounts Chamber and the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation are hamsters?
    You can continue to pretend and shout that everything is fine in agriculture, but your goods will not appear on store shelves and prices for imported products will not drop.
    1. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 12: 53
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      Quote: piston
      The author claims that the negative data on agriculture in Russia is "stuffing hamsters". But then: According to the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, from 2008 to 2011, the total area of ​​agricultural land in Russia decreased by 9,8 million hectares.


      This is displayed in the article.
      With a decrease in sown areas, the overall collection of crops and vegetables is growing.

      Quote: piston
      According to the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation, from 1990 to 2011 years, 23 thousands of settlements disappeared in the country, 20 thousands of this number - villages and towns.

      Urbanization, EPT. In developed tryns, the share of the rural population is much less than ours, because one farm with 20 employees will produce more than three villages in 300 yards.
    2. sledgehammer102
      14 December 2013 13: 02
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      Quote: piston
      The author claims that the negative data on agriculture in Russia are "stuffing hamsters"

      Not really, it's stuffing floortruth, when a negative or quite nominal tendency is pulled out of the general situation for arguments in favor of the "Vsepropalo" thesis.
      For example, they say that from 1999 to 2012, the population decreased by several million people .... Although the fact that the rate of natural decline has been decreasing since 2000 and the growth rate has been ignored is ignored, moreover, since 2010, the population has increased and has already grown by 1,3 million people.
      Quote: piston
      Do you think the Accounts Chamber and the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation are hamsters?

      No, moreover, their data is displayed in my article.
  14. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 December 2013 14: 11
    +1
    in the Volga region, half of the fields are overgrown with ambrosia, the forest has already begun to grow, agricultural machinery is not adding anything, just the government’s reluctance to abandon the food supply business to its people from beyond the hillock
  15. sledgehammer102
    14 December 2013 14: 16
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    Quote: Soldier's grandson
    in the Volga region, half of the fields are overgrown with ambrosia, the forest has already begun to grow, agricultural machinery is not adding anything, just the government’s reluctance to abandon the food supply business to its people from beyond the hillock


    This is probably why food imports are declining or stagnating with an increase in domestic production.
  16. 123321
    123321 14 December 2013 14: 53
    +1
    Our geopolitical enemies, seeing how we are dying, decided to accelerate this process: Poisoned bread with bromomethyl
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi2G6ojIyjI
    1. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 14 December 2013 18: 19
      0
      here su * ki completely lost fear
  17. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 14 December 2013 21: 02
    +2
    I live in the Kuban. hi I’m not a super patriot at all, I don’t consider myself a patriot. At the farmer, the tractor drivers are offended that they often put them to sleep in the tractor. On plowing and in the sowing, he puts the machine at the beginning of the field using GPS, poked his finger on the button and drove off. , the tape recorder plays, the speed of movement that when plowing, that when sowing or disking is supported automatically. At the end of the field, it turns off, unrolls the unit and turns it on again. During this work, they say you sit and take a nap. I write as is, just don’t have to reproach me in advertising or praising someone. The guys get not so much money (25-30) thousand.