Military Review

Model of development of the Russian economy: there are liberals in power - there is no growth. Throw them out - he will appear

95
Model of development of the Russian economy: there are liberals in power - there is no growth. Throw them out - he will appearThe liberal model of the Russian economy, originating in the “Washington Consensus” and “combed” by the notorious Gaidar (not to be remembered at night), “with comrades”, has a number of features that allow making sufficiently long-term forecasts as to whether it can ensure economic growth . For this you need to pay attention to the following two circumstances. First: this model prohibits the internal investment of the economy. For this purpose, a universal mechanism is used - the reduction of the money supply, which is supposedly necessary for reducing inflation.


We note, by the way, that the reduction of the expanded money supply below a certain scale (approximately 70% of the country's GDP) does not lead to a decrease, but to an increase in inflation, was strictly shown in an official document in the autumn of 1996 of the year economy, prepared for the Ministry Board). Of course, many people understood this before, but there was no official document, and therefore liberal officials could pretend that they were working “according to world standards”. But after the appearance of the official document, it became clear that the liberal policy was a criminal act aimed at destroying the country - because the liberal leadership of the ministry decided to pretend that such a report simply did not exist. The board was canceled (the only case in my memory), the report was withdrawn from the participants in the discussion and destroyed.

To reduce the money supply, different mechanisms are used - and not quite correct methods of calculating risks, which increase rates, and the abandonment of the ruble refinancing of the banking system, and forcing banks to refinance in foreign currency, which increases currency risks. As a result, the economic system is constantly hungry, and long-term investments are simply impossible. The only bright moment was the 1999 – 2002 period, when the Central Bank was headed by Viktor Vladimirovich Gerashchenko, who increased the money supply 4 times relative to 10 (from 4 to 40% of GDP) over 2002, of course, inflation only decreased. But after the arrival of Ignatiev at the end of 2004, the growth of the money supply and its approach to the scale adequate to the economy ceased, as a result of which inflation again went up. Only following the results of 14, industrial inflation jumped twice - from 28 to XNUMX%, after which the State Statistics Committee (Rosstat) actively began to engage in its falsification. In the direction of decline, of course.

Accordingly, the main development mechanism in the framework of the liberal model is the attraction of foreign investments. Actually, this was openly spoken of since Gaidar, who built a brilliant “logical” chain: since the “only” factor that ensures the inflow of investments is low inflation, then this very inflation should be reduced at any cost, see above. Note that the delusional nature of this construction has become clear for a long time and to everyone (even foreign consultants somehow shunned such a revelation in the economy), therefore modern liberals have adapted it somewhat, replacing it with such a thing as a “good investment climate”. An integral part of which, however, is low inflation. And here lies one of the most clever manipulative techniques of the liberals.

Well, in fact, consider, for example, the city of Detroit. The investment climate in it is excellent, simply because it is located in the United States, that is, the “Mecca” of the liberals. There, the Sun rises, and the dates erect, and the investment is blooming. But the question is - why don't they bloom in Detroit? The answer is very simple. Because an investor who thinks about where to invest money, first of all, asks whether it is possible in principle to return this money. If "no" - everything else is not considered (as in the case of Detroit). If the answer is yes, then other issues can be considered, including which one to claim the return margin. And it is here that the “investment climate” begins to play its role - the better it is, that is, the lower the risks, the lower the percentage the investor is ready to receive. But if there is no return at all, then the climate itself can be perfect ... As in Detroit.

So, if investments in the Russian economy are foreign (foreign), that is, in foreign currency, then the return should be in foreign currency. That is, the total amount of investments taken by the country should not exceed a certain amount determined by foreign exchange earnings. Of course, there are some subtleties; for example, for exporters everything is somewhat simpler, well, so they and there are no particular problems with investors, which is clearly seen on the famous BP deal - Rosneft. But in the whole of the Russian economy, the situation is unequivocal.

All 2000-s foreign exchange earnings of the country grew (we will not quibble over trifles). But after 2008, the global crisis began, and the total foreign exchange earnings gradually began to decline, this year the decline has become particularly noticeable. Russia’s accession to the WTO also had a serious impact on it, which removed tariff protection from a number of industries, respectively, as soon as information about this became available (sometime since spring 2012), investors began to draw conclusions. Very simple: the volume of foreign exchange earnings coming into the country is decreasing, which means that it will not be missed not only for servicing new investments, but even for a full refund of the investments already made. That is, you need to start withdrawing money!

This process began with the spring of the year 2012 - the outflow of capital from the country! The liberals cried for a long time that the process “is about to end” and will be replaced by growth - without mentioning that this process fully corresponds to economic realities! At the same time, all the arguments about the fact that, taking into account the reserves of the Central Bank and the government, currency “above the roof,” do not correspond to reality, since all these reserves have already been taken into account - they are necessary to repay direct loans to the corporate sector.

In other words, the liberal model of development came to its logical conclusion: it was workable only in a situation of constant growth in commodity exports against the background of economic growth throughout the world! In other words, the liberals not only purposefully planted us on the “raw needle”, they even could not make this “needle” more or less stable, since it categorically requires constant economic growth in the outside world. Which for a very long time will not be.

Accordingly, the future of the Russian economy in the event of a continuation of the liberal model is sad. The economic downturn has lasted for more than a year and will only increase. God forbid that next year there would be a collapse in oil prices (which, given the entry to world markets of Iran’s oil, is not at all obvious) or a bubble collapse in the US stock market (which will still sooner or later collapse). In other words, the liberal future looks like this: the inevitable slow decline, with the constant risk of its acceleration. Pleasant prospect, do not say anything.

Although there is an alternative. Namely - import substitution. That is, the remaining on the territory of the country of the money that today goes to the direct purchase of imported goods. True, for this it is necessary, first, to abandon liberal principles, in particular, in monetary policy. And to make so that production became at least minimum profitable. And, secondly, to deprive the “Western partners” of our liberals of the hundreds of billions of dollars a year that they receive from us today. Here, as is clear, the liberals will face a wall, because without the support of these very "partners" they cannot remain in their places. However, they will also resist in terms of canceling their principles - again, the “partners” will be offended, tea, the principles did not come from the sky, but from the Washington Consensus!

So the general conclusion that can be drawn from the above: today the economic situation in Russia is determined by one banal point. There are liberals at the mercy - there is no economic growth. Expel the liberals - he will appear. And that's all.
Author:
Originator:
http://www.odnako.org/
95 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Xroft
    Xroft 12 December 2013 14: 20 New
    23
    They have been saying about this for a long time that it is necessary to drive liberals in the neck ... but who will do it? Now is a great time to blame everything on Medvedev and his team, to update the cabinet. And the economy will be normal, and the exam can be canceled .... but there is a lot of talk, but things are usually small recourse
    I do not want "stagnation" in our country experienced in due time nothing good, it did not last .... I hope that some changes will begin after the Olympiad, conclusions should be made.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 12 December 2013 14: 41 New
      21
      Quote: Xroft
      Now is a great time to blame everything on Medvedev and his team, to update the cabinet.

      It's time for the president to remember that he has eggs. If they certainly are. laughing
      1. kaktus
        kaktus 12 December 2013 14: 46 New
        +2
        They think, actually, with brains yes
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 12 December 2013 15: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: kaktus
          They think, actually, with brains

          The best thinkers are castrates. Brains are not clouded by testosterone. laughing But there is no will. Ideally, there should be harmony between coca and brain. hi
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 12 December 2013 16: 00 New
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            But there is no will. Ideally, there should be harmony between coca and brain.

            In reality, others have a harmony between their brains and ass - for their brains are located exactly at point No. 5, and they begin to work only after a good pendal and precisely at this point. laughing ! Alexander, hi !
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 12 December 2013 19: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Tersky
              and start working only after a good pendal

              And then magical another pendal can also be written in genius. yes
              1. General Frost
                General Frost 13 December 2013 08: 40 New
                0
                lol The absolute truth !!! hi
            2. COBOK
              COBOK 12 December 2013 23: 11 New
              +2
              Or maybe still weighed the magic penal of the GDP? Do not flutter in the comments, figuring out whether he has testicles, but really go out on the avenue and ask who he is - a good friend or the President of a large country, did the people really support him and for his cause? Why dandruff marsh no one in the stomach with his forehead rested or bulk managed, albeit dead, but a crowd to gather, really normal people (without fucking Usaniya and fagot), on their hard-earned, on the weekend will not be able to gather ??? With surprising for the "elite" (although this designation generally accepted for those in power has nothing to do with the true meaning of this word), the universal (only now) slogan "NAH ...": "NAH liberals ...", "WTO NAH ... "," LADIES NAKH ... "and, the main thing (he studied law winked ) "Nakh ... this (16+) fucking constitution with its universal human rights." The most interesting thing is that we have every opportunity not only to shout this slogan, to achieve its implementation, but also to say what will happen next: it is not for nothing that these comments appeared under Khazin's article, there are many people on this site who work in manufacturing, transport, and agriculture .. ...

              The main problem of our society is the RIGHT to work, not the DUTY to work, this is the reason for the appearance of helmans, gozmans and other Pussy Riot

              ps messy, but, boiling, and did not get enough sleep
              1. not main
                not main 13 December 2013 02: 07 New
                0
                It would be better to sleep on!
              2. user
                user 13 December 2013 12: 01 New
                -2
                It’s better to go down and have a soppiness, maybe it’s better.
              3. papuasimus
                papuasimus 13 December 2013 13: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: COBOK
                Surprising for the "elite" (although this designation generally accepted for those in power has nothing to do with the true meaning of the word)

                I am happy when I read such lines !!!
                In my concept, "elite" - creators, creators and warriors "for the Fatherland" to the grave.
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2013 18: 26 New
            +7
            castrati singers are the best .... and we have heard enough of "songs" ...
      2. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 12 December 2013 16: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        It's time for the president to remember that he has eggs. If they certainly are.

        That’s what, and Putin, for all his shortcomings, was not deprived of courage, nor was he deprived of prudence and caution, the battle with the oil monopolists alone is worth the recent events in Syria.

        And DAMA must be driven into the neck and without hesitation, leave the 3-4 person and Shoigu from the cabinet of ministers.

        Separately under the article, since the main thinker there is Khazin-All-Lost .... then there is nothing to discuss it, just another chatter and ANALYTIC. In general, Khazin has what percentage of guessing the future conjuncture ?? 20%??? Or I was generous ... I mostly see his quotes with the words "Russia has 5 years left", in 2001, 2006, 2011 ... everything will never come true
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 12 December 2013 17: 55 New
          -7
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          That's what, and Putin, for all his shortcomings, is not deprived of courage,

          Therefore, he went to the inauguration of an armored Merc, along the cleaned streets of Moscow smile
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          how deprived of prudence and caution,

          not to take away what is, that is.
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          the only battle with the oil monopolists is what the recent events in Syria are worth.

          Oh, where did the oil monopolists come from, did they get started? And what is it worth to an ordinary citizen personally, I know, AI 92 gasoline - 29,71r. / L.

          Quote: sledgehammer102
          And DAMA must be driven into the neck and without hesitation,

          Oh, and who brought DAM to power? He himself certainly did not build a political career, as well as GDP, however.
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          Separately, according to the article, since the main thinker there is Khazin-All-Lost ....

          I even trust the Slavic reporters with verification (this is now a profession, at the traders), and I’m trying, not the four-time Slavs, to the generalists. hi
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 12 December 2013 20: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Therefore, he went to the inauguration of an armored Merc, along the cleaned streets of Moscow

            ???? And here is the courage ??? Kennedy was brave ... By the way, figs whoever got to meet with Obama after the inauguration just like that, because there all were selected for passes for a month)))))

            Quote: S_mirnov
            Oh, where did the oil monopolists come from, did they get started? And what is it worth to an ordinary citizen personally, I know, AI 92 gasoline - 29,71r. / L.

            Here is the average Russian salary in liters of gasoline


            And to close the question of such a theory, cf. salary as "one is eating meat, the other is cabbage, and on average they eat cabbage rolls" get a plate by group
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 12 December 2013 20: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              And to close the question of such a theory on cf. salary as "one to eat meat and the other to eat cabbage

              How much money do you need for full-fledged nutrition (subject to the purchase of all products - without a personal plot, if any)?
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 04: 01 New
                0
                Quote: Yarosvet
                How much money do you need for full-fledged nutrition (subject to the purchase of all products - without a personal plot, if any)?

                I have enough. Or do you calculate that you cannot live on a salary in 20-30 thousand ???
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 04: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  How much money do you need for full-fledged nutrition (subject to the purchase of all products - without a personal plot, if any)?

                  I have enough. Or do you calculate that you can’t live on average in a city in 20-30 thousand ???
                  Or on 10-15 thousand in villages?
                  Or on 7-10 in the village?
                  This is neither much nor little. And in comparison with 1999, so in general space
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 13 December 2013 12: 35 New
                    +3
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    10 tyr food, 10 tyr clothing, communal, transport, etc. - 20 ty living wage on average in the country (we look at the percentage of the population having less, that is, below the poverty line, as well as articles 2, 7, 17 and 18 of the Constitution)

                    Compared with 99 in terms of the number of billionaires, then everything is super in general (only production fell by 25%)
            2. Valkyrie
              Valkyrie 12 December 2013 20: 43 New
              -2
              According to your plate, it appears that 82,6% have an income of up to 35000 rubles per month. And 0,4% didn’t get on the tablet at all. Do you think that 35000 is normal money for a person? This is a beggarly salary. Make another sign of price increases from 2005 to 2012 year and then there will be a complete picture. And even the growth in income of those unspecified 0,4% would also not hurt to consider the dynamics.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 December 2013 21: 06 New
                0
                Quote: Valkyrie
                Do you think that 35000 is normal money for a person? This is a beggarly salary.

                Well, not so beggarly. It depends on which region. In Moscow, this is not enough, in our city in Tolyatti it is even very normal. Only 35t.r. this is the maximum in this table. But where are those who earn more? Sledgehammer102 modestly kept silent about them. And about how much gasoline costs in oil-producing countries, he was modest too.
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 03: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  . But where are those who earn more?

                  In the 35 000 overlay section, on the Rosstat there is a sign for 10% groups, up to a million

                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And about how much gasoline costs in oil-producing countries, he was modest too.

                  In Russia, the cheapest gasoline in Europe, but it is foolish to compare with sidet and Qatar people, because there is the same amount of oil produced, and the population is 10 times smaller. Ie per capita, we have oil with gulkin nose in comparison with the same Qatar and the Saudis.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 13 December 2013 07: 21 New
                    -2
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    Ie per capita, we have oil with a gulkin nose in comparison with the same Qatar and the Saudis.

                    Let's compare with Egypt and Turkmenistan, or with the United States. S / P in Europe, compare. It is many times higher there, and products and manufactured goods at the same price or lower.
                    1. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 14: 29 New
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Let's compare with Egypt and Turkmenistan, or with the United States. S / P in Europe, compare. It is many times higher there, and products and manufactured goods at the same price or lower.


                      let's compare what is interfering ?? And we will separately calculate the cost of production there in Siberia and in the far north. And the standard of living of the Egyptians and Turkmens.

                      As for Europe, let's compare. Wed salary in Germany after payment of all duties 1200-1500 thousand euros. Partly I agree about food prices, but with gas, communal services, medicine there in terms of money is a disaster
                2. user
                  user 13 December 2013 12: 07 New
                  0
                  It should be clarified that the bulk of the price of oil and oil products is made up of contributions to the state, in the form of duties and taxes. These contributions allow one way or another to maintain the social sphere, for example, pensions for retirees, the budget of the RF Armed Forces.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 13 December 2013 14: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: user
                    These contributions allow one way or another to maintain the social sphere, for example, pensions for retirees, b

                    Those. the state takes from us, so that later we would be given in the form of pensions. request And then why the hell are we paying pension tax? That’s why the hell is that it is necessary to develop the economy without reference to resources, so that income from resources goes to help the development of the economy, and not be the only source of its income. hi
              2. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 04: 00 New
                0
                Quote: Valkyrie
                Do you think that 35000 is normal money for a person?

                I’m not writing that this is a super salary, but for objectivity compare it with salaries in 1999, with the example of the same gas prices its growth is obvious
              3. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 13 December 2013 04: 09 New
                0
                Quote: Valkyrie
                Do you think that 35000 is normal money for a person?

                I'm not writing that this is a super salary, but for objectivity, compare it with salaries in 1999, with the example of the same gas prices, its growth is obvious, and gasoline has grown in about the same way as products
        2. IRBIS
          IRBIS 12 December 2013 18: 01 New
          10
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          I mostly see his quotes with the words "Russia has 5 years left", in 2001, 2006, 2011 ... everything will never come true

          And this "groundwork" that was made under the Union is still working. The ships laid down in the 80s are being built, the planes developed in the same years, the factories have not yet collapsed. So analysts are wrong, but the stagnation is obvious and it is foolish to deny it. Already now, with such oil prices, we have a huge budget deficit and social services are being cut. And what will happen if oil and gas prices fall five times by next summer? There will be a picture "Swam ...."
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 12 December 2013 20: 27 New
            -1
            Quote: IRBIS
            Build ships laid in 80

            What kind???
            Quote: IRBIS
            aircraft developed in the same years

            What?
            Quote: IRBIS
            factories have not all collapsed

            How then will it be possible to produce high-tech equipment (which the USSR did not have), which goes with a bang abroad ???

            Quote: IRBIS
            But what will happen if oil and gas prices fall by five every summer?

            Why should they fall ?? Will everyone switch to a fusion or atom? Then Rosatom will work well.
            1. IRBIS
              IRBIS 13 December 2013 10: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              What kind???

              All that have been launched in the last ten years. Their designs were developed in the 80s ("Petr", "Kuznetsov", "Chabanenko", etc., all submarines). Except for small boats.
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              What?

              Everything, including helicopters, except for the T-50.
        3. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2013 18: 27 New
          +6
          That’s what, and Putin, for all his shortcomings, was not deprived of courage, nor was he deprived of prudence and caution, the battle with the oil monopolists alone is worth the recent events in Syria. hithis is wonderful ... and when will you remember your own people ???
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 12 December 2013 21: 30 New
            +2
            never. All victories in foreign policy are depreciated by actions in the homeland.
            There is no intelligible strategy for economic development - there is a DAMA talkery about the reasons that somehow impeded the implementation of the May decrees of GDP. And it seems that there are no levers of influence on this camarilla. Today, it seems, was the president’s message? I worked, I didn’t look, but I am tormented by vague doubts_ if there is something new ....
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2013 18: 25 New
        +2
        yes good hi ah well done Ingvar72 !!!
      4. ty60
        ty60 12 December 2013 19: 37 New
        -1
        well, he’s not interested in his wife anymore
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 12 December 2013 14: 51 New
      +6
      There are liberals in power - there is no economic growth. Expelled liberals - he will appear. And that’s it.
      It’s easy to say ... kicked off to Russia with a stranglehold (in all areas) .. Only with a scalpel but it will hurt and what to do ..
      1. Andriuha077
        Andriuha077 12 December 2013 14: 56 New
        +2
        Really, who will do it?

        Maybe those who are proud of foreign investment?

      2. AVV
        AVV 12 December 2013 16: 08 New
        +3
        You need to burn out with fire, and what to do, or continue to live on the cliche created in the States? But it’s similar to death !!!
      3. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 12 December 2013 16: 19 New
        +7
        MIKHAN SU
        There are liberals in power - there is no economic growth. Expelled liberals - he will appear. And that’s it.
        It’s easy to say ... kicked off to Russia with a stranglehold (in all areas) .. Only with a scalpel but it will hurt and what to do ..


        A good liberal is a dead liberal, i.e. not in power. Let the bastard in his family liberal, but rather on logging.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 12 December 2013 15: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: Xroft
      .... I hope that some changes will begin after the Olympics, conclusions should be made.

      I am amazed at the people who themselves create milestones associated with any events. It is not clear where they come from and what motivates hopes for change in something for the better. Well, the Olympics will take place, then what? As DAM sat (an adherent of the pro-Gaidar sect and leader of the government-liberal shobla), he will sit in the chair of the Russian Communist Party. The reason you yourself indicated:
      Quote: Xroft
      They have been saying about this for a long time that it is necessary to drive liberals in the neck ... but who will do it?
      I do not argue, it will definitely change, because "after the Olympiad" the concept is quite extensible, after how many years - 20,50,100?
      1. Altona
        Altona 12 December 2013 16: 03 New
        +9
        The Olympics is the "bright" dream of every liberal, a large-scale project ... You can "liberate" so much money, dear mother ... So after the Olympics, they will find something else ... These are their feeders - the APEC summit, the Olympics, the World Championship football and so on ...
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 12 December 2013 16: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: Altona
          The Olympics is the "bright" dream of every liberal, a large-scale project ... You can "liberate" so much money, dear mother ...
        2. Garrin
          Garrin 12 December 2013 20: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Altona
          You can "liberate" so much money, dear mom ... So after the Olympics they will find something else ...

          And then ...! You can drag and extinguish the torch in the opposite direction in Greece. This is so, for starters ...
          You can send snow back to Israel, and crushed stone with barges to Turkey ...
          There are a million options.
    4. ele1285
      ele1285 12 December 2013 16: 19 New
      +4
      Yes, he won’t take Pu Nedimon away, he simply looks like a genius against his background. All achievements in foreign policy are related to Pu, and an iPhone for the whole country is just a kid playing on the phone at government meetings.
      And I talked about the economy, until there is a personal responsibility of every minister, this swamp will be forever.
    5. alone
      alone 12 December 2013 22: 18 New
      +1
      Of course, it is necessary to drive the Liberals, and preferably not to the neck, but to send them for the collapse of the economy to sawmills with hand saws so that they suffer.
      But about the recovery of the economy after this, it is very debatable. Too much has been destroyed and destroyed.
    6. host
      host 13 December 2013 11: 49 New
      +1
      Why not M. Khazin prepare a program for overcoming this stagnant situation and simply post it on the Internet.
      It will be like an open letter and this document cannot be ignored by the authorities and Putin.
    7. The comment was deleted.
    8. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 13 December 2013 12: 05 New
      0
      I respect Khazin for the clarity of thought and for the fact that he is trying to be objective ...
  2. seller trucks
    seller trucks 12 December 2013 14: 27 New
    -19 qualifying.
    Well, in fact, consider, for example, the city of Detroit. It has an excellent investment climate, simply because it is located in the United States, that is, the Mecca of the liberals.


    An unsuccessful example, the bankruptcy of Detroit is more related to the large number of living Negro population (at least 70%) and the city has become less acceptable for white people (specialists). For nonsense Khazin (-)
    1. Altona
      Altona 12 December 2013 18: 02 New
      +4
      How did this bankruptcy become related to the ethnic problem? The bankruptcy of Detroit is a consequence of the fall in sales of cars of the "big three": GMC, Chrysler and Ford due to their inefficiency when the oil crisis of the 70s came ... Japanese and German cars actively entered the American market ... But mostly Japanese as more economical, the Japanese well localized their production in the USA ... And the star of Detroit began to roll more and more confidently, specialists and engineers were forced to look for another job and place of residence ... And after that, the city began to flood with colored residents - African Americans and Latinos. ..Since the prices for real estate and so on have fallen sharply ...
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 12 December 2013 21: 32 New
        -1
        disagree. First of all, the transfer of industrial capacity to China
    2. pRofF
      pRofF 12 December 2013 18: 37 New
      +7
      You point to the investigation, not understanding the reason. Why in Detroit - there are so many blacks. Because the white population began to massively leave the city on the outskirts or to other states. Why did you leave? But because there is NO work in the city. According to the libertarian model — which Khazin described very correctly — money must make money. And in Detroit, the costs are greater: the workers are white, they pay taxes, they need a social package, insurance and more. But in China, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. - this is not the case. Because all the factories of heavy engineering and automotive in Detroit were gradually removed abroad or closed. The profits of their owners really went wrong, and the fact that the whole of Detroit was left without work - well, who cares. Liberalism, however. Now in Detroit - the home of the city center - costs 1 US dollar. And still no one buys. And so it goes, there is no work, there are fewer white people, more blacks. Look at the root, comrade.
      Addressed by seller trucks.
      1. officer29
        officer29 12 December 2013 20: 32 New
        0
        And also, a little later, there will be a new Birmingham - a ghost town ... recourse
  3. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 12 December 2013 14: 33 New
    +4
    I didn't read the article, the title was enough. In addition to the liberals, they would have dealt with the thieves. And then one is a witness, and his girlfriend ... By the way: "The Moscow City Court overturned the decision to extend the house arrest of the main defendant in the" Oboronservis "case Evgenia Vasilyeva, sending this issue for revision, reports RAPSI.
    Vasilyeva will remain under house arrest until December 26, during which time the petition to extend her preventive measure will be considered again. "
    Is funny Hardly...
    http://1prime.ru/Politics/20131212/772858670.html
    1. Viacheslav
      Viacheslav 12 December 2013 14: 45 New
      -7
      "I have not read, but I condemn"

      The problem is not with liberals, but with unskilled labor in parliament and in the localities. But liberals, they, socialists or blacks does not matter.
      1. papuasimus
        papuasimus 13 December 2013 13: 37 New
        0
        I agree. According to diplomas and all kinds of crusts, all bureaucrats even where! Educated to the heels.
        Only there are very few normal business executives. "normal" - who has a real successful experience in production, construction, machine tool construction (at least in its infancy), agriculture, electronics industry, etc.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  4. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 12 December 2013 14: 44 New
    14
    Liberals should be called by their true names: thieves, saboteurs and traitors. And then all the cards come together.
    Terms Liberalism, like democracy, is a screen.
    Although manure is called organic, which it is, but no one will eat this organic, because it is r @ obviously.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 December 2013 16: 07 New
      +9
      Quote: tverskoi77
      Liberals should be called by their true names: thieves, saboteurs and traitors.

      Not only listed, what to call Gaidar after his famous pearl, from the memoirs of Luzhkov, (another representative of the liberal-thieves clan) I quote: “It was February 1992. The meeting, chaired by Yegor Timurovich, discussed urgent measures to finance social programs. <...> There was a discussion of social issues on the construction of schools, on pensions, by that time almost zeroed, on the savings of citizens, which also turned into dust. And yet the same one of the authors of this article informed Gaidar that in Zelenograd our medicine recorded 36 deaths due to hunger. To this Gaidar replied simply: radical transformations are underway, money is difficult, and the death of people who are unable to resist these transformations is a natural thing. Then he was asked: Egor Timurovich, what if your parents are among these people? Gaidar grinned and said that he did not intend to answer stupid questions».
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 December 2013 19: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        Gaidar grinned and said that he did not intend to answer stupid questions

        In the end, he answered ...
      2. papuasimus
        papuasimus 13 December 2013 13: 41 New
        0
        Of course a wacky question!
        Since when did the pigs fed the state feeder at the expense of our taxes have problems with food ??? !!!
    2. Genur
      Genur 12 December 2013 16: 30 New
      +3
      Until they restore the death penalty and confiscation of property, this mess (in our understanding) will continue until the complete collapse of Russia.
      1. PPL
        PPL 12 December 2013 17: 33 New
        +2
        Until the death penalty is restored ...

        To begin with, at least they would have returned the confiscation, otherwise Ivanov would mutter something inarticulate the other day about it and again silence ...
      2. papuasimus
        papuasimus 13 December 2013 13: 46 New
        0
        Recover?
        Who! Against who? Against themselves beloved?
        There is one way - to shoot without trial and investigation upon the appropriation of national property and / or money, as the equivalent of this property.
        Where would a performer be found?
  5. mmmakm
    mmmakm 12 December 2013 14: 45 New
    +8
    Everything was written cleverly, beautifully and mysteriously (for me), but I was in Russia in the summer and I liked everything. They live well, there are a lot of cars, roads are built, bread is spike and there is work.
    So I believe more in the eyes, and not the writings of, near-Kremlin writers. They are biting for a place at the feeder and they do not care about people. They’re better to arrange a Maidan than to make a tractor.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 12 December 2013 14: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: mmmakm
      They live well, there are a lot of cars, roads are built, bread is spike and there is work.


      Here (+) to you, briefly and to the point.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 December 2013 18: 39 New
      +4
      Let me explain. For example, our natural monopolies (such as Gazprom) were tasked with cutting costs by half. Brilliant! For these same "expenses" Gazprom builds in our country, teaches its specialists, we treat them, teach their children, take them in a taxi, cut them, the devil is ... That is, we have outlined a stagnation of growth - in other words, our production wastes away. In response, the natural monopolies were ordered ... to reduce the share of funds going into our economy! We have problems with capacity utilization - and today the government with moronic joy is reporting a 600 billion budget surplus !! The patient suffers from malnutrition - everything is clear, cut his portion by half! This is called sabotage and nothing else.
      1. ty60
        ty60 12 December 2013 20: 05 New
        +2
        I am now in Gazprom. Half of the builders are Transcarpathian and Magyars. They can be paid less. Well, we are against them
    3. officer29
      officer29 12 December 2013 20: 41 New
      -2
      Well, it’s you, my friend, I suppose you drove along the M-4 "Don" highway? You would have driven in other directions, a different opinion would appear. request
  6. sumcream56
    sumcream56 12 December 2013 14: 46 New
    -8
    Dear Mikhail Khazin is an ordinary sharlatan. I have the right since I am a candidate of economic sciences. All he wrote is bullshit. First, monetarism in the versions of Reaganomics and Tetcherism is not liberalism, but neoconservatism. Secondly, the contraction of the money supply is necessary to stimulate scientific and technological progress - millions of tractors and cars are not needed in the world, but it is necessary to improve the quality of goods and their use value through scientific and technological progress, since only this makes it possible to use expensive credit resources (and thus thereby preserving the savings of the population) .Thus, the production of obsolete goods becomes impossible. Daytroit is a vivid symbol of the bankruptcy of obsolete production. Then there is a good book about the American car industry by Arthur Haley "Wheels" about the quality of human capital. After reading it, I understood: "Socialism was in the USA"! What are the phrases: "The big problem on Monday was the launch of the assembly line. Everyone was mobilized on it because of the massive absenteeism, from watchmen to accountants!" "No normal American would buy a car made on Monday or Friday." Thirdly, the Gaidar-Chernomyrdin policy was a betrayal of national interests - in order to save the economies of the "fraternal republics", resources were exported from Russia, and paper rubles and obligations were imported; the ratio of exports from Russia to the CIS and back was 2 to 1 (for two rubles of goods - per ruble of goods, per 1 ruble of waste paper) .And most importantly, their policy ruined scientific and technological progress - the tax on wage growth limited the growth of labor productivity, there was a sharp decrease in R&D costs, etc., and many of Gaidar's projects remained unrealized (mandatory sale on stock exchanges of a part of the product, etc.) And Gaidar's main mistake, the reason for which is due to the actions of Khazin Gerashchenko's pet, is the refusal to index deposits in Sberbank, frozen a year before during the Pavlov-Gerashchenko reform.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 12 December 2013 15: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: sumcream56
      Dear Mikhail Khazin, an ordinary charlatan.
      This is the same economist as Gaidar. Yes, and what is now our terry Jew at the top is not the main expert in all matters? Whatever a Jew is a specialist, neither a consultant is a Jew.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 December 2013 18: 48 New
      +6
      I love HSE fosterlings! How educated you are, sir, tears from your eyes, snot from your nose ... Would you please tell me, modestly, what kind of money it is to provide "stimulating NTP" if the money supply is compressed? If credit resources are not available to manufacturers, do not enlighten - where will they come from for researchers who can not only GUARANTEE the result, but even say - will it be at all? Those who wish can rummage through the statistics and find out how much money is now needed for this very NTP.
      You can't even get money by your labors on security. The percentage is so high that you won't take them for production - they won't fight back. And listen to the vile lies about "stimulating scientific and technological progress" by taking away the last kopecks from production ... No, I'm not so stupid that you, associate professors-candidates of the Higher School of Economics, suspect that you have a conscience. But brazenly carry his blizzard, refusing readers in elementary logic ... Ugh.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 12 December 2013 19: 07 New
        +5
        Yes, for the sake of clarity. The contraction of the money supply, in fact, completely guarantees the absence of any scientific and technological progress within the "compressed" economy. Everyone can be convinced of this by the examples of the work of the IMF, which with one hundred percent efficiency seeks to destroy any potential in the economies it diligently squeezed. That is, we are observing a completely successful attack on our country by an external enemy, that is, its information support. The only joy is that the attitude of the site visitors to the herald of "effective monetary policy", so that he has no bottom or tire ...
        1. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 12 December 2013 20: 26 New
          -1
          Michael, you got so nervous, your glasses even slipped away. Sorry, I am also an economist with a higher education, full-fledged, still Soviet, but are there really tedious excursions into the jungle of my logical moves? And not that it is a site for polemics on economic topics. Key thought sumcream56 there were words that Khazin was a charlatan. I haven’t read the entire article, but to hear such conclusions from Khazin is the same as to learn the news about the creation of an anti-corruption department in the government. The same paradox.
      2. ty60
        ty60 12 December 2013 20: 12 New
        -2
        here they lie in a small pill to maintain the regime
        1. Metlik
          Metlik 12 December 2013 22: 53 New
          +4
          If we feed water under high pressure into the pipes, it efficiently transfers heat to the heating system. About the same thing happens with money supply. But only if the pipes flow nothing will work. Here you need to change the system. :)
  7. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 12 December 2013 14: 52 New
    +6
    Maybe it's time to dot the i, and not engage in populism?
    Liberals, socialists, communists, democrats and further down the list ... Which of them is better, which is worse, can you say? I can’t, everyone has pros and cons ...
    I believe that the main thing is that the appointees are high professionals in their field. Do you, for example, choose a doctor solely for his political affiliation? Then I do not envy you.
    Now re-read the name in a new way:
    "The model of development of the Russian economy: if there are amateurs in power, there is no growth. If they are kicked out, it will appear."
    That is the truth.
    1. yur
      yur 12 December 2013 21: 04 New
      +2
      Well, I do not! I do not need a high-class specialist in ditching my own country! So there is a significant difference in the political, economic, and human qualities of the appointed manager.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 12 December 2013 14: 54 New
    +5
    Liberalism in the economy can be equated with anarchy in politics ... beautiful slogans sound only at the exit zilch.
    How can we take as a basis an economy that has proved its worth in the early 70s of the last century.
    It existed thanks to the doping obtained as a result of the collapse of the USSR, receiving new sales markets ... existed for another 20 years and again failed, there is no qualitative component of the liberal concept of the economy, development is only at the expense of quantity, the world has its dimensions ... reaching its limit requires move to a qualitatively different level ... planned ... market is good at the start ... when neither of which is clear ... but if you know that you need 10-11 apples, well, 12 maximum why produce 15, 3 will definitely not rot looking at their supposedly low price ... like in a joke, well, a soldier cannot eat 2 bags of rutabaga.
    The very fact of imposing such a policy in the same EU countries for new members, the old countries / EU founders live by their own laws imposing the so-called liberal ones on new members, showed that everything leads to complete economic degradation.
  9. evgenm55
    evgenm55 12 December 2013 14: 54 New
    +9
    I’ll look at the faces of those sitting in the government — I feel like crying or cursing. If the president is so smart and correct and confidently leads the country (where only?), What does he tolerate them?
  10. Tektor
    Tektor 12 December 2013 14: 54 New
    +4
    Extremely adequate Khazin article! Not expected...
    Only one point I want to clarify. At the expense of inflation. Inflation slowed down precisely because prices rested against world prices (through the ruble exchange rate), and only therefore did their growth stop. If inflation grows in foreign markets, then we will immediately feel it. And it is urgently necessary to change.
  11. Jarilo
    Jarilo 12 December 2013 15: 00 New
    +3
    It is not even necessary to expel the liberals, it is enough to set the right tasks for them, to merge themselves.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 12 December 2013 15: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Jarilo
      themselves merge.

      down the drain? wassat
    2. ty60
      ty60 12 December 2013 20: 16 New
      +1
      but Libermanov first needs to be slightly relieved in the amount of stolen
  12. Sterlya
    Sterlya 12 December 2013 15: 01 New
    +7
    when money settles in offshore. the rest of the revenue again goes west for the procurement of all sorts of things can not be economic growth. Money must work domestically. everything is simple. workers get paid. pay taxes. spend on the purchase of goods of Russian industry. the treasury is replenished. manufacturers in business. Yes, the same money that is paid to state employees. eventually returned to the state.
    When are foreign goods purchased. the money just goes over the hill. all. zilch. effect zero for Russia. Americans live. Europe.
    Americans .Europe. Japan. England, in addition, still lives due to the issue of money. I print multicolored pieces of paper. we buy them for oil. gas. etc. etc. for some reason, liberals accidentally forget about it.
    the amount of money supply should be constantly regulated. too much mass is not good. little is also good.
    In principle, nothing complicated. incomprehensible in Russia. so thoughts climb that really some kind of comrades do not play on the side of Russia.
    Yes, liberalism is enough. already full.
  13. sumcream56
    sumcream56 12 December 2013 15: 06 New
    -8
    In general, expel the liberals and The morons will become smart, the doubles will have knowledge in their heads, crooks, thieves and corrupt officials will stop stealing and in general on EARTH PARADISE WILL COME!
  14. ImPerts
    ImPerts 12 December 2013 15: 16 New
    +5
    All these isms are a screen for banal robbery. The economic power of the "G7" countries is due to the possibility of dictating their terms in the sales markets. This is noticeable in modern Russia and the WTO stick. Another good example is Ukraine. We give you a carrot in the form of removing the problems of movement (visa), you give us standardization on our terms. As a result, you ride wherever you want, and we get the lack of competition in the 48.000.000 sales market.
  15. The comment was deleted.
  16. Mviktor
    Mviktor 12 December 2013 15: 43 New
    +5
    sumcream56 contraction of the money supply is necessary to stimulate scientific and technological progress

    I don’t know what candidate of science you are, but you write quotes from textbooks. The policy of squeezing the money supply on the plausible pretext of fighting inflation in the early 90s and ruined the Russian economy. Chubais, being the Minister of Finance, succeeded in squeezing the money supply, you can see that he studied at the same place and with the same textbooks. It is necessary to develop the economy then there will be no extra money in the economy. And Khazin has interesting
    original thoughts.
  17. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 12 December 2013 15: 44 New
    +5
    Quote: "If there are liberals in power, there is no economic growth. If the liberals are kicked out, it will appear. And that's all."


    When a professional economist discusses our long-suffering Russian economy, everything seems to be clear. But the low level of knowledge of an amateur makes you ask questions.
    First. Why do foreign investments flow from the capitalist countries of the West to China, a communist country, and to Russia a thin stream?
    Second. All the main means of production in Russia were seized by "oligarchs". By pumping out the subsoil, exploiting industry for wear and tear, these gentlemen receive money and take it abroad. Is it possible to force part of their profits to be directed to the development of industry?.
    The third If oligarchs cannot be forced to invest part of the profits in the development of domestic industry, What kind of economic growth can we talk about? It basically cannot be.
    Fourth Provided that the oligarchs do not invest part of their income in the development of industry, Is the transition of the Russian economy from the category of advanced technologies mining into industry possible?

    SO WHERE HERE THE LIBERALS?
  18. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 December 2013 15: 46 New
    0
    The theme, of course, is good - to conceive the enemy, call him a liberal, and then together insist on eradicating it. But, I think, the problem is a little deeper, and all Russian troubles cannot be put together in bulk in one Procrustean bed of the rotten ideology of liberalism.

    "If there are liberals in power, there is no economic growth. If the liberals are kicked out, it will appear. And that's all."

    Ah, if only it were that simple!
  19. vlad0
    vlad0 12 December 2013 15: 51 New
    +5
    It's time to identify “liberalism” and “liberal” with “betrayal” and “traitor”, or “treason to the Motherland.” I am sure that then something will start to change for the better.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  20. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 December 2013 16: 02 New
    +2
    <<< Accordingly, the future of the Russian economy is sad if the liberal model continues.
    (Conclusion) If there are liberals in power, there is no economic growth. If the liberals are kicked out, he will appear. And that's all. >>>
    The moment of realization of this by the supreme power with the corresponding ORGANIZATIONS is inexorably approaching! Is there really going to be a moment (unfortunately, extremely unlikely) when, in the queue for unemployment benefits, we will see Gaidar, the same Chubais, thrown out by the market "with his comrades"! And so I would like!
  21. tomich
    tomich 12 December 2013 16: 15 New
    -4
    Khazin was born in Moscow on May 5, 1962, studied at a mathematical school. By his own admission, he dreamed of studying at Moscow State University, but was forced to enter Yaroslavl State University in 1979. Already in his second year he transferred to the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University, which he graduated in 1984 with a degree in statistics (Department of Probability Theory). By distribution, he ended up at the Institute of Physical Chemistry with Alan Georgievich Grivtsov, where he was engaged in the theoretical justification of applied problems of chemical physics from 1984 to 1989.
    That is, a person who does not have an economic education at all writes about the economy. This is absurd
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 13 December 2013 07: 22 New
      0
      And the situation with Russia in the 90s, which the "economists" created, is it not absurd?
  22. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 12 December 2013 16: 31 New
    +3
    Colonial economy with the basic principle "Siphon resources, sell assets" and economists in the Government work on the same principle. By the way, the Central Bank issues rubles only in connection with the receipt of green currency (in 98 barrels Urals in the region of 11 bucks there was a production volume of about 130 million tons per year, by 2002 - 25 with a peak of 32 and a volume of 200 million .), so Gerashchenko did not perform any miracles in 99-02. Experts believe that the value of the ruble today is understated by 1,5 to 2 times. Credit policy with the refinancing rate and the interest rates tied to it against the Russian ruble (you can borrow money in any Western bank at a penny interest). Where can the money supply come from in these conditions, also in the volumes necessary for the economy?
    And the Government’s policy creates inflation - the share of energy carriers in our northern latitudes is from 30 to 70% in the cost of production; raise the price of electricity, gas, gasoline - that’s the price per unit will increase, + transportation of Russian Railways to increase = inflation (and, what is, offensive to the native Government caused).
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 12 December 2013 20: 06 New
      +1
      I completely agree with you. The government itself creates the inflation together with the guarantor. One statement on electricity tariffs is worth: with an increase of 15-20% per year, the guarantor states that the growth is 6-7 percent. And so on.
    2. ty60
      ty60 12 December 2013 20: 25 New
      +1
      Absolutely.
  23. bubla5
    bubla5 12 December 2013 16: 37 New
    +4
    Previously, failures were blamed on the Jews, now they are blamed on the liberals, but in fact, everything depends on the total permissiveness for theft by bureaucrats and heads of firms and enterprises, a huge difference in wages, an example is Sberbank = Gref-2mln, and a simple operating woman is 7-8 tons. R
  24. calocha
    calocha 12 December 2013 16: 43 New
    +2
    And, what if we did not create a separate economic zone based on a different model and liberals wouldn’t let guns go there, the results would speak for themselves ...
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 12 December 2013 17: 01 New
      +3
      In the tundra, create a special economic zone, bringing there the so-called liberals.
      Fence, exclusion zone, machine-gun towers.
  25. Mviktor
    Mviktor 12 December 2013 17: 12 New
    +1
    in fact, everything rests on the total permissiveness for theft by bureaucrats and the heads of firms and enterprises, a huge difference in wages, an example is Sberbank = Gref-2 million, and a simple opamp 7-8 tr

    The permissiveness of the "elites" and their separation from the people is almost a legitimized thieves' liberal policy.
    Sberbank is half the state bank, its board is full of government officials from the Central Bank and the government who approved at their meeting the super-profits of these managers. Liberal Gref if he set himself such a salary than he differs from a simple thief. The task of these elites is to quickly grab and dump over the hill, all the more housing is already there, the accounts there of the family are there too. They do not care what the people think about them all the more so what kind of operation.
  26. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 12 December 2013 17: 24 New
    0
    Quote: calocha
    And, what if we did not create a separate economic zone based on a different model and liberals wouldn’t let guns go there, the results would speak for themselves ...

    They would have leaked ... (they usually have a flair for doing business where it’s possible to break up .. with languages ​​all the undertakings ..) All this needs to be done nationwide (after stripping naturally ..) Lukashenko is an example ..
  27. klim44
    klim44 12 December 2013 18: 01 New
    -3
    The author is raving. Follow the logic - the liberals put the country on an oil needle, as far as I know, it emanated from such a prominent liberal as V.V. Putin It turns out we’ll expel it all will work out. Bravo, Author !!!!
  28. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 12 December 2013 18: 27 New
    +4
    There are liberals in power - there is no economic growth. Expelled liberals - he will appear. And that’s it.But in my opinion it’s somewhat different. There are thieves in power, there is no economic growth. They will plant thieves, he will appear. And that’s it.
  29. homosum20
    homosum20 12 December 2013 18: 38 New
    +3
    These liberalists are guided by the FRS. As bequeathed to their spiritual guru Egor Timurovich. Naturally - and the benefit of their implementation is only for the FRS. It would be foolish otherwise. But the problem is not only in them. And in the constitution, adopted under the leadership of the Washington Regional Committee, and in the laws arising from it.
  30. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 12 December 2013 19: 34 New
    0
    Putin in his message announced new measures to destroy companies with foreign jurisdiction - they should be denied access to the execution of state contracts, state guarantees, and soft loans. In addition, it was announced that the development of Siberia and the Far East, the creation of non-oil export enterprises - the main priority in the 21st century.


    Today I’ll drink a ton of good grams stop! For the health of GDP!
    Gently, methodically, without sudden movements and populism, squeeze this reptile away from our country!
    A little people will understand where everything is leaning, and I think politicians and oligarchs are already clearly explaining where God is, where is the threshold, and where is the wall ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 12 December 2013 20: 12 New
      +2
      Well, of course, he has been explaining and fighting for 13 years. And the stupid people don’t understand how everything is painful for him.
    2. klim44
      klim44 12 December 2013 22: 35 New
      -1
      And foreign companies are racing to China, the celestial economy is growing by leaps and bounds, and in our country the picture is exactly the opposite - investments are falling, the economy is not growing, banks are closing., Communal services are growing, etc. etc. Maybe the matter is in our power, and not the liberals who since 2000 have been moved away from this very power
  31. tomich
    tomich 12 December 2013 20: 14 New
    -1
    thanks for the cons
  32. typhoon7
    typhoon7 12 December 2013 20: 26 New
    +1
    Author categorical +, thanks for the topic.
  33. Stinger
    Stinger 12 December 2013 20: 52 New
    +1
    So far, so beloved by the liberals, foreign investment, except for pumping out natural resources and the influx of unnecessary trash into the country, has not led to a check.
  34. konvalval
    konvalval 12 December 2013 22: 15 New
    +1
    Gaidar pricked ... nodded, and this one giggles. USSR other..kali. How would we not giggle Mother Russia.
  35. komel
    komel 12 December 2013 23: 18 New
    +1
    The United States passed a tax discipline law in 2010 that affects the use and application of foreign accounts. In accordance with this law, all US residents are required to declare their income and investments, regardless of the country of their receipt. The presumption of guilt of the company has been established and recognized, according to which companies must prove the absence of operations through offshore in their activities and thus receive profit. Offshore zones are allowed only for business development.
    The first place in the number of offshore zones belongs to Great Britain. In an interview with The Guardian, Cameron said that he intends to put an end to "secretive companies registered in the territory of secretive entities", which are underpaying billions of dollars into the British budget.
    At the G8 summit, Putin announced that Moscow will develop a national plan to combat offshore companies.
    12.12.2013 Putin suggested "If you want to go offshore, please, but the money is here." Companies with foreign jurisdiction will not be able to use state support, including loans from VEB, and receive government contracts.
    The course has been chosen, the road will take the road, the proposed GDP measures are economically justified and will even work in our reality, since the scheme is simple.
  36. tomich
    tomich 12 December 2013 23: 18 New
    -2
    Today I’ll drink a ton of good grams stop! For the health of GDP!

    thump electorate)))
  37. artifox
    artifox 13 December 2013 09: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    S / P in Europe, compare. It is many times higher there, and products and manufactured goods at the same price or lower.

    Rave. Salary in Europe is not higher. And taking into account some prices (including gasoline), it turns out that even if income is (even slightly) higher, then the expenses there are higher. That's why everyone lives on credit - while the credit dependence of the Europeans is much higher than in Russia.

    Now let's go further - what kind of Europe do we mean, saying that there are higher salaries? Maybe a poor Bulgaria? Or Romania? Or maybe Slovakia or Slovenia?

    Have you been a young man in Europe for a long time? I’ve been there regularly - so I’ll tell you - life isn’t better there, and sometimes even worse. Do not get fooled by maydaunas on a beautiful wrapper - take a step to the right or left. Open your eyes.

    Although the order there is a little more - I will not argue with that. The principle of inevitability of punishment works. But there’s the mentality ... Although I notice that we, in fact, a little bit, but it becomes more order. Although this is not very noticeable, but let him who has eyes see.
  38. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 13 December 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    About the so-called. "statistical data". They are so deceitful that I don’t even know how the people who continue to believe them are, I mean all sorts of “beautiful” salary tables and so on, which are so fond of manipulating all kinds of crooks from the economy who consider themselves to be. cool "experts in this area. I have a good friend working at the Levada Center, and so he explained to me how these "statistical studies" are done. To my question, how do they display data on salaries if they, not only are sufficiently closed data on the one hand, and on the other hand, are also not accurate due to double-entry bookkeeping, "gray salaries", etc. He looked at me as if idiot and answered with irony: "You don't understand that all these so-called" studies "are ORDERED to us. And since someone ORDERED something, then, of course, he wants to get a CONFIRMATION of something. INTERESTING. ALL statistical studies that are published in the press are ALWAYS aimed at putting into a scientific form what the customer wants to hear from them. The customer needs JUSTIFICATION material in order to act further in the direction and according to the scenario that he has already developed. " Statistics "is just one of the levers in the mechanism of manipulating public consciousness that the ruling class needs to justify its actions. If" statistics "does not fulfill the wishes of its customers, then it simply will not be financed. alism - everyone wants to eat, but money is not lying on the road .... The real data, those that really reflect the state of the economy or one or another of its areas or relate to one or another side of life in the state, are absolutely secret and are collected ONLY by special departments of the secret services, which have the right and access to such information and are NEVER published, for they are STATE SECRETS "
    1. papuasimus
      papuasimus 13 December 2013 14: 20 New
      0
      He served in the construction forces, I have a good command of statistical tools ...
      As a result: real numbers were mainly needed for formality (such as necessary, as it should be, regulations, etc.); There were exceptions - construction projects at their own expense, where commanders listened to the economic calculations thoroughly.
      After the reduction, I tried to get settled in the FSB (where I do not specifically say, but the work is related to analytics). So, not a single real document comes out of such structures, except through official channels.
      Something like that.....
  39. AlexA
    AlexA 13 December 2013 13: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Samsebenum
    Now let's re-read the title in a new way: "The model of the development of the Russian economy: there are amateurs in power - there is no growth. If they are kicked out, it will appear."

    Let me disagree with you. There are no amateurs in the leadership. They all understand everything there. And they act intelligently. It's just that in their "reflections" there is simply no place for such concepts as the development of the economy, the social sphere, opportunities to improve the well-being of the greater mass of citizens. The objective function is different: to ensure the unrestrained raking of wealth by one's own. They are very competent and provide it.
    And who would you prefer in power: a decent, conscientious, but not very sophisticated person from a professional point of view, or a genius, professional - but a swindler? From whom will you suffer more damage?
    And this dilemma is the "political convictions" that seem insignificant to you.
    But, by the way, you live.
    1. papuasimus
      papuasimus 13 December 2013 14: 33 New
      0
      I prefer to see in power (in all its manifestations) people like the nobility of imperial times.
      Even from Peter the Great it happened that the fate of a nobleman is a service to the Tsar and the Fatherland from his youth to the grave.
      Today it is a utopia.
      I ask you not to confuse the power of the holding boars (a voucher in their ass) with those for whom the words "duty" and "honor" are still a part of their own lives (such people, thank God, are still there).
  40. AlexA
    AlexA 13 December 2013 13: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: komel
    The course has been chosen, the road will take the road, the proposed GDP measures are economically justified and will even work in our reality, since the scheme is simple.

    The words are spoken correctly. No questions. Only now, despite the threatening statements, the rate of capital outflow is increasing, production in physical volumes is falling, and in terms of money, according to the Ministry of Economy, growth is within the statistical error. And the rise in wages and pensions is not keeping pace with inflation. Bonuses for top managers and dividends cause envy in the most prosperous countries. And the officials responsible for this are in their places ("We are not 37 years old"). On this "road" we will just get to the cemetery.
  41. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 13 December 2013 14: 03 New
    +1
    He laughed, to tears, when VVP "frightened" companies operating offshore. Well, how will he influence them? Don't give loans? Well, all large companies have long been taking loans not in Russia, but those that take out are companies affiliated with the government and they take, in fact, not loans, but interest-free loans, because not one such "credit" transaction has been opened and the interest on it is closed. Well, there won't be these "loans", they will be borrowed in the West at a low interest rate. I scared that such companies would not have government contracts. Oh, how scary then! Nobody canceled the "institution" of subcontractors with all the consequences. Will not provide "benefits"? What are these "benefits"? So they are, these "benefits" and tries. not needed, everything is covered by the "saw", but the "corruption component" is provided - everything has been worked out for a long time. Next, then what?