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A unique private collection of weapons can be destroyed in Yaroslavl

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A unique private collection of weapons can be destroyed in Yaroslavl

In Yaroslavl collector under the guise of "demilitarization" are trying to select a unique collection weapons.


The Yaroslavl police are continuing to “demilitarize” the population. Recently, another trial ended in the Yaroslavl Regional Court - Yaroslavl businessman Mikhail Balashin unsuccessfully tried to return a unique collection of firearms seized from him by the police.

This история started more than a year ago - when one day from the house of Mikhail Balashin, the police took the 6 vintage revolvers from the 19th century, 5 guns in the 19th - 20th century collectible condition, as well as some spare parts from the old firearms - barrels and bolts, storage which is illegal.

The collection went to the owner as a legacy from his grandfather, who from childhood had taught his grandson to hunt - and his passion for weapons in general. And now, over the course of 27 years, a man collects old weapons - primarily hunting ones, he goes to Germany for international museum exhibitions with his collection every two years.

Although in the collection of Michael, in addition to hunting rifles, such as "Lepage" and "Sauer", there are some very unique samples. These are the Smith and Wesson revolvers No.3 (the so-called “Russian model”) and “Star”.

“I am interested only in ancient weapons of historical and cultural value,” says Mikhail Balashin.

As the collector explained, he did not hide his hobby or his collection; nevertheless, police officers suspecting Balashin of illegal possession of firearms went to him through their own channels:
"I let them voluntarily into the apartment. The police did not have a search warrant, but I was sure that I was doing fine - I don’t have a Kalashnikov machine gun, nor Makarov, nor Stechkin,” collector.

The man is worried that the priceless collection will simply be ruthlessly destroyed and will never come back to his hands. According to him, he repeatedly appealed to the license services of the district and the city, where he was told that there is no mechanism for registering ancient weapons of cultural and historical value.

The fact is that according to the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 646 from 23.07.1975, “On the Establishment of a Unified Procedure for Acquisition, Accounting and Storage of Hunting Rifles,” registration of hunting weapons became mandatory only from 1975 onwards. It was this document that placed control over the acquisition, registration, storage and use of guns on the police.

Before that, they were not subject to registration - perhaps it did not make sense during the hungry post-war time, when almost every second man was a hunter.

According to the law, if the weapon would have been acquired in a hunting shop or from a private person, then it can be registered. But how to register if there are no documents for these items of the XIX century? After all, the previous owner will not find.

Yaroslavl Information Agency "Yarnovosti" turned for comment to Dmitry Gorbachev, a representative of the Yaroslavl Museum Fund, which has an international license from UNESCO, an expert in the field of ancient weapons and metal, who explained that part of the collection really represents historical, cultural and museum value (this is 4 - and 6-barreled revolvers of the Peperbox system and the STARR brand revolver). According to the law, the rules on “Measures to regulate the circulation of civilian and service weapons and ammunition to it in the territory of the Russian Federation” do not apply to these weapons.

The most expensive revolver is “Russian” “Smith and Wesson”, but its value, as well as other items (this is the “Bulldog” revolver, Sauer and Lepage guns) is set by the appropriate expert opinion.

Thus, a legal collision arises: the police seemed to have acted correctly, removing the “dangerous objects” from the collector, i.e. a weapon that can theoretically be used for its intended purpose. True, it is worth making a reservation: it is impossible to find ammunition for some antique guns and revolvers, since their production was discontinued in the nineteenth century. Moreover, as Mikhail Balashin himself explained, 4- and 6-barreled "Peperboxes" and the American-originated "Star" revolver are charged through the barrel, and the cartridges (in any case, in the modern sense of the word) are not provided for them at all. For this reason, the examination of the seized weapons was not carried out in full. In this, too, nonsense - we take away the weapon, but we cannot shoot it, because in Russia there is no such ammunition for a long time. In addition, there is such a term as "metal fatigue." Let's agree that if Balashin or anyone else was going to commit a crime, he would have chosen a much more modern, reliable, simple and cheap to use firearm for this, and would not risk losing his hands and eyes - for example, if he broke the barrel. Nevertheless, the law is the law. You can fire - at least with homemade cartridges - so these are dangerous items. A court was held, according to the results of which Mikhail Balashin received six months of restriction of freedom.

And the collision is as follows: it is not clear what to do now with this unique collection - the law says nothing about it! Considering the museum value of weapons, the collection should definitely be preserved.

According to lawyers, you need an appropriate expert opinion. If the weapon is recognized as a cultural value and is classified as antiquarian, valuable items will be removed from the field of ATC activity, and all others must be registered in the department of licensing and authorization work of the ATC. Otherwise, the weapon will be classified as combat, service or civilian on the basis of the provisions of the Federal Law “On Weapons”.

Dmitry Gorbachev is difficult to assess the value of the collection, as it is necessary to take into account the degree of safety and loss of copies. According to various estimates, it can reach 1,5 – 2 million rubles. Moreover, the expert did not see the items themselves - he had only a description of them. The judge refused to appoint an examination - and now the weapon can in fact be destroyed, since dangerous items are legally subject to disposal.

At the same time, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the state protects the human right to private property.

In court, the collector asked to put the hunting rifles on record - as a hunter, and the "Bulldog" and "Velodog" revolvers (used in the old days by postmen to scare dogs off) - to emasten so that it was impossible to make a shot from them. Nevertheless, he was denied this.

"This is my inheritance, inherited from my father, and to him from my grandfather. I guarantee that all other items were purchased from private individuals and were not stolen from anyone. And they were purchased solely for the collection, and not for committing illegal acts or resale, ”says Mikhail Balashin.“ I don’t understand why the judge doesn’t execute the Federal Law “On Weapons.” I can only explain this by saying that someone liked my collection. I’m sure that if in my presence the weapon is not destroyed , let me even cry, collector I will simply plundered - and after a certain period of years, probably somewhere pop up. "
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  1. MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 12 December 2013 10: 18 New
    30
    But what kind of internality in our country?
    It's a shame to tears, for a person and for objects from history
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 12 December 2013 10: 22 New
      43
      Meanwhile, somewhere in the mountains, although not, in the center of the capital is Akhmedka with two Kalash and four pistols .... And he fucked up with the police.
      Wash just decided to wring it out. Although the option with "disarmament" is also possible, for a policeman these are just guns ...
      It is really insulting to tears when the authorities are fighting with their people ...
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 12 December 2013 10: 32 New
        15
        Quote: klimpopov
        Wash just decided to wring.
        The museum workers decided to squeeze it out, cut through the rare trunks and connected the police. Before that, the man had been exporting abroad, there were no problems, but then they showed a rare zeal. The museum’s eyes were laid. yes
        1. avt
          avt 12 December 2013 10: 39 New
          18
          Quote: bomg.77
          Museum workers decided to squeeze

          What museum workers !? Stupid cops, now poets. You know how they robbed the AZLKA museum! Right on the spot, not embarrassed by the museum staff, they shared what and to whom of the exhibits donated to the plant. The man himself was blundered that he did not know what he owned!? How did I let the looters into the apartment without documents!? Why didn’t the law quietly study the collection of the collection? Well, now they’ll give it all up, they’ll take it away in their pockets.
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 12 December 2013 11: 20 New
            +8
            Quote: avt
            Why didn’t the law quietly study the storage of the collection?
            Why would he study the legislation if he exported it over a hill? Or do not need documents drawn up for the full program to transport weapons? Museum workers or very high-ranking cops are unprincipled, the main law is commissioned by people whose communications are more extensive.
            1. avt
              avt 12 December 2013 12: 03 New
              +2
              Quote: bomg.77
              Why would he study the legislation if he exported it over a hill? Or do not need documents drawn up for the full program to transport weapons? Museum workers or very high-ranking cops are unprincipled, the main law is commissioned by people whose communications are more extensive.

              Anyone should know! The law that the pillar can of course be bypassed, and ob..at. But you need to know, at least in order to competently do the previously stated acts and not complain about the "bezlimit". Even with the most impudent "order", well, if not quite, "thugs" come running, you can correct the situation. Especially now with Kolokoltsevo, you can say whatever you want, but the guys have not yet moved away from the shock and are shaking behind the chairs, they have not figured it out yet. If you turn it around correctly, they turn on the back.
          2. Genur
            Genur 12 December 2013 16: 55 New
            +1
            Nothing more to do - for the collectors!
        2. Fin
          Fin 12 December 2013 10: 45 New
          15
          Quote: bomg.77
          Before this, a man exported abroad, there were no problems, but here they showed a rare zeal.

          That's what I'm talking about. Exported as museum exhibits, and then suddenly they ceased to be them. The court refused an examination, did not let it be emasculated - it means that someone laid eyes. Spinning property under the guise of law.
          1. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 12 December 2013 12: 43 New
            +4
            I will add. Very expensive property.
        3. Pit
          Pit 12 December 2013 10: 51 New
          14
          Quote: bomg.77
          Museum workers laid eyes

          Museum workers, hardly. Most likely some kind of the same lover of weapons, only with connections, saw at the same exhibition and decided to squeeze out "officially". Most likely, these guns are no longer in the police warehouse.
          1. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 12 December 2013 12: 44 New
            +2
            Yeah. So it most likely is.
        4. yurii p
          yurii p 12 December 2013 12: 06 New
          +3
          judging by the action of the police, the museums have nothing to do with it, it’s the self-interest of some influential person, I probably feel sorry for the money or the collector refused to sell it.
        5. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2013 13: 51 New
          +5
          ++++++ 100%, someone put their eyes, they want to take away without crime ...
        6. Tambov we ...
          Tambov we ... 12 December 2013 13: 53 New
          0
          And the oak-makers in our country, who are stupidly on the front, are always in abundance ...
    2. yurii p
      yurii p 12 December 2013 12: 03 New
      +6
      I can explain "The Yaroslavl police continues to work on the" demilitarization "of the population." ... everything is simple as always, some high-ranking official from the police, prosecutor's office, investigative committee, deputy (the list can be continued indefinitely) liked this collection, everything is simple to the point of banality , legal robbery in broad daylight.
    3. tomket
      tomket 12 December 2013 13: 20 New
      +3
      recalls how, for example, valiant policemen come to the modeling exhibition, and begin to confiscate the models of tanks and aircraft they like under the pretext of fighting Nazi symbols.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 12 December 2013 19: 32 New
        +1
        They decided to present the next general (or not quite general ..........) with something original - you won’t be surprised with gold PM now!
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 12 December 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    And how many unique hunting weapons died during the beginning of its registration after it was sold freely in households. crying Rare specimens simply went for remelting. I just don’t understand why at least a friend didn’t register hunting rifles for himself? request
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 12 December 2013 12: 47 New
      0
      And how to register a muzzle-charging fitting? Or a gun?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 12 December 2013 14: 21 New
        0
        Quote: anomalocaris
        And how to register a muzzle-charging fitting? Or a gun?

        There is no pistol, but I'm talking about the guns from the article, the hunting RUNS "Lepage" and "Sauer" appear there.
  3. Vadivak
    Vadivak 12 December 2013 10: 19 New
    14
    The man is worried that the priceless collection will simply be ruthlessly destroyed and will never return to his hands.

    Well, about the fact that destroyed destroyed is not worth it. But that will not come back possible. Apparently the order. Someone liked the collection.



  4. A.YARY
    A.YARY 12 December 2013 10: 19 New
    +5
    Dope rages
    There is no other way to explain this.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 12 December 2013 10: 30 New
      +9
      The only way out of this situation, I see how to file with the district court at the place of residence at the police department of the city of Yaroslavl. Moreover, there was no warrant. I will contact the district prosecutor's office with a request to intervene and record (record) the seized collection weapons and also verify the legality actions of the police. There is a chance, but hope, as we know, dies last.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 December 2013 11: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: Apollon
        . There is a chance, and hope, as we know, dies last

        The chance is scanty. With our judicial system, almost not real. 10 years ago engaged in the sale of DVD. OBEPovtsy seized 800 licensed discs, and recognized them as counterfeit. He tried to appeal, provided the documents - to no avail. Judges automatically side with the law enforcement system.
        P.S. Of course, he also traded in pirates, but when they seized her, it was not so offensive.
      2. alone
        alone 12 December 2013 21: 07 New
        0
        Apollo, the Procurator will never trample against the police, and the police against the prosecutor. I think the only real way out would be better if the whole collection were handed over to the museum under state protection so that crooks would not get it !!
  5. Alex66
    Alex66 12 December 2013 10: 24 New
    +7
    Demilitarization of the population is an interesting thing, I watched one series where the criminals decided to take control of an isolated town, so they started by saying in collusion with a government official that they need to hand over weapons for general security. And the collector needs to remember if someone asked him to sell or donate the collection before.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 12 December 2013 12: 58 New
      0
      Definitely.
  6. military
    military 12 December 2013 10: 25 New
    +9
    I do not understand why the judge does not comply with the Federal Law “On Arms”.

    because any lawlessness is always done "in the name of the Russian Federation" ...
    I can only explain this by the fact that someone liked my collection.

    donut is clear ... yes
    ... the collection will be simply plundered - and after some period of years, it will probably come up somewhere.

    will not be plundered ... it will quietly be presented to the right person, whose ass is rubbing one of the power seats ...
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 12 December 2013 13: 01 New
      +1
      That's disgusting, but alas, it is.
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 12 December 2013 10: 30 New
    +2
    Yes, I think that some kind of ... idiot in law enforcement decided to show his power to a citizen of RUSSIA.
    I must say that all authorities, including the court, the prosecutor's office and law enforcement agencies, must work with one goal in order to ensure a normal human life for the people and citizens of RUSSIA, in particular, without fear of lawless men in uniform or in a leather jacket with a gold chain.
    So far, I see that the general policy of the authorities with respect to the ordinary citizen is still based on the FEAR BEFORE him (no matter what happens).
  8. Gunsmith
    Gunsmith 12 December 2013 10: 37 New
    +7
    The stump is clear - they want to squeeze. Any act can be drawn. A * will be destroyed * at any sensitive enterprise where the owner of the collection is not allowed for reasons of supreme state security - all of a sudden he will see a secret furnace for melting scrap metal!
  9. makarov
    makarov 12 December 2013 10: 37 New
    +5
    it’s sad to read, this happened in Ukraine, then the cops and prosecutors simply plundered the collection, and there was no end to it.
  10. Gunsmith
    Gunsmith 12 December 2013 10: 41 New
    +3
    PySy - forgot to add. In our tool shop, the guys filled numbers on German (!) Pistols brought by the cops. In the context of the article - doesn’t say anything?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 12 December 2013 10: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Gunsmith
      In our tool shop, the guys filled numbers on German (!) Pistols brought by the cops.

      Why the hell on German pistols stuff numbers, do not tell me?
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 12 December 2013 11: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Why the hell on German pistols stuff numbers, do not tell me?

        So the numbers on the German pistols were German, they were killed by the Russians.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 12 December 2013 12: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: IRBIS
          So the numbers on the German pistols were German, they were killed by the Russians.

          Well, if only. smile
          Alexander, hi
  11. these
    these 12 December 2013 10: 42 New
    +1
    yeah they squeezed out the garbage of the old pistols and are satisfied. and for some tutapeds the gilded pistols in the State Duma fall out and nothing.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 12 December 2013 13: 04 New
      0
      Baby, this antique pestle stands like a dozen modern ones.
  12. sheih_merden
    sheih_merden 12 December 2013 11: 11 New
    +5
    Nothing increases the number of dependent judges as the independence of the court.
  13. Hort
    Hort 12 December 2013 11: 25 New
    +2
    Something a thought arises, they want to squeeze out a collection at the peasant. Moreover, the judge also behaves inappropriately (refused to appoint an examination). Looks like some local (or not so) bureaucrats looked at the trunks. Or someone from Moussar (such a language wouldn’t turn out to be policemen, no offense to all worthy representatives of this profession) bosses ... It's a shame for the man - the hunter himself has been accustomed to weapons since childhood, and here there are old and rare trunks
  14. Tanysh
    Tanysh 12 December 2013 11: 28 New
    +5
    It’s dangerous to take weapons from criminals, they can do more. And the person who kept the historical weapon is safe for persecution, again, gifts to the authorities at someone else’s expense, a tick in the reports - a medal on the uniform
  15. lambert
    lambert 12 December 2013 11: 31 New
    +2
    That is why it is necessary to transfer the registration of weapons from permitting to notification.

    Cancel all quantitative standards on the number of weapons. A smooth-bore weapon in general, as such, to have hunters without permission. And then the hunting ticket is one thing, but for some reason it does not mean anything as such.
  16. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 12 December 2013 11: 36 New
    +3
    Officials for 300 years have not changed - do not allow and do not let go! But still I liked the collection to the police authorities. They probably can collect it.
  17. Horn
    Horn 12 December 2013 11: 45 New
    +1
    After the death of his father-in-law, Sauer also liked the cop.
  18. vkrav
    vkrav 12 December 2013 11: 58 New
    +1
    As long as the possession and carrying of weapons is a "crime" - such lawlessness will continue. And the forced "demilitarization" of ancient weapons is a real crime.
  19. desertfox
    desertfox 12 December 2013 11: 59 New
    +3
    according to the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 646 of 23.07.1975/XNUMX/XNUMX "On the establishment of a single procedure for the acquisition, recording and storage of hunting rifles"

    According to this decree, my grandfather took the shotguns to the cops without a number, the father said that it was not a gun but a work of art, the engravings were different ... So they should have filled the number on it and given it, but of course they didn’t give it away.
  20. shpuntik
    shpuntik 12 December 2013 12: 02 New
    +4
    "I let them voluntarily into the apartment. The police did not have a search warrant, but I was sure that I was doing fine - I don’t have a Kalashnikov machine gun, nor Makarov, nor Stechkin,” collector.

    The first moment - you can no longer trust the police, because they have become the police. A mutation has occurred: "Anything you say can be used against you." Thanks to the Great LADY and his friends. fellow
    Second point:
    A trial took place, following which Mikhail Balashin received six months of restriction of freedom.

    Recently, it doesn’t reach me: why are the current authorities, as well as the Soviet ones, afraid to arm their own citizens? Not everyone was hit, but checked: hunters, fishers, and other respectable patriots, those who served, reserve officers?
    I used to agree with official experts, but after watching a video about Switzerland, questions arose. So the government is afraid of its own people ?? Where are the other arguments?

    And why is it possible for "children of the mountains", but not for others?

  21. Plato
    Plato 12 December 2013 12: 03 New
    +6
    Definitely, the police came to the collector’s apartment on someone’s tip.
    Now tortured by the courts and other examinations. They will bring the owner of rarities to compulsion to negotiate and then offer a compromise - someone will buy the collection for a certain amount. It's time to connect the internal investigation service on the topic of who initiated the interest in the collection. At the same time, it is necessary to file an application with the prosecutor. It is necessary to prevent in every possible way the arbitrariness of the so-called law enforcement officers. Another thing is that the collector may not have enough funds for consultants and lawyers. Here you need to attract serious celebrities or deputies.
    And about the emasculated weapons. After such an operation, it becomes at the price of metal. Ancient weapons that have survived to the present day must be kept in working condition. How then can the barrel or trigger be restored in its original form? Each, the smallest ancient detail, has value. Not for nothing that American gunsmiths restore old weapons, but in order to shoot make a copy. It is both noble and safe.
  22. kair_kz
    kair_kz 12 December 2013 12: 30 New
    +3
    cop lawlessness
  23. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 12 December 2013 12: 40 New
    +2
    I agree with the previous comments of colleagues on the site, where they expressed the idea that they simply decided to rob the collector. But to rob technically, under the guise of "disarmament". That is, like everything is according to the law ...
    And after all, somehow none of the Yaroslavl law enforcement officers bothered to recall in this connection the sacramental "we are not the 37th year"voiced not by someone there, but personally by the president himself, that is, the guarantor of legality ...
    And then, not only will the collection be "privatized" (and this is very possible with us now!), But the collector himself will be put in places not so distant. Moreover, they will be kept for a real (not conditional!) Term and without any amnesty ...
    And these rarities will settle at some gentleman who appreciates beauty and rarities. Moreover, it will cost him very inexpensively ... And museums will not see this collection. Do not hope ... At least for the foreseeable future ...

    PS It all reminded me of an old English movie with a non-trivial title "Lock, Stock, Two Barrels." Only, unlike him, here the collector is not robbed by gopniks, but by law enforcement officers ...
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 12 December 2013 13: 50 New
      +1
      The guarantor can voice what he wants, we have, damn it, freedom of speech.
  24. RUSS
    RUSS 12 December 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    The power of the people with weapons is afraid, so it is carrying out "demilitarization".
    Meanwhile, the number of hunters in Russia is growing rapidly, as is the acquisition of hunting weapons.
  25. ayuric
    ayuric 12 December 2013 12: 46 New
    +1
    "Yaroslavl news agency" Yarnovosti "asked Dmitry Gorbachev for a comment, a representative of the Yaroslavl Museum Fund, an internationally licensed UNESCO specialist in the field of ancient weapons and metal, which explained that part of the collection really is of historical, cultural and museum value (we are talking about 4- and 6-barreled revolvers of the "Peperbox" system and a revolver of the "STARR" brand) ....

    .... Dmitry Gorbachev is difficult to assess the value of the collection, since it is necessary to take into account the degree of preservation and loss of copies. According to various estimates, it can reach 1,5–2 million rubles. Especially since the expert did not see the objects themselves - he only had a description of them. "

    It does not seem strange that such a special. and did not see this weapon, especially since they live in the same city?
  26. Leader
    Leader 12 December 2013 12: 50 New
    +3
    And here recently the cops were congratulated on the holiday ... Here they are, in all its glory! Honduras of some kind!
    Someone from the regional filthy police decided to tidy someone else's collection to their little hands.
    In this country, in order to preserve global cultural values, you just need to sell them to the West! Here, these values ​​will either be seized for joy, or sent to remelting ...
    No, to carry out demilitarization in Chechnya! They destroy everything Russian ...
    At least once they showed on TV a criminal who tried to rob a bank with an 18th century muzzle-loading pistol; at least once they showed an organized criminal group with a "Maxim" machine gun ...
  27. officer29
    officer29 12 December 2013 13: 18 New
    +3
    That the collection was expropriated is unambiguous. They will drive the collector to a frenzy - he will give it back, at best, the minimum compensation will be offered with the words: "Say thank you for not being jailed!" After all, someone needed a collection of cars from the Ryazan Automobile School. And after all, she disappeared with the ends, only Willys-jeep was found at the dacha of Serdyukov's son-in-law ... crying
  28. spirit
    spirit 12 December 2013 13: 57 New
    +1
    A unique private collection of weapons can be destroyed in Yaroslavl

    Soon in all Country General tables laughing
  29. felix
    felix 12 December 2013 14: 06 New
    +2
    A very boorish and daring way to take possession of someone else's rare collection. Its 100% will not be destroyed. This is a loss not only of the collection but also of the family inheritance. After all, it existed under the USSR, but it was not taken away. God help him.
  30. Manul
    Manul 12 December 2013 15: 39 New
    +1
    And the cops have a tick about the opened case. It’s very important for them. Promotions, awards, rewards .. Remember how the 80-year-old grandmother was tried for several poppy flowers in the garden?
  31. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 12 December 2013 16: 03 New
    +1
    I can only explain this by the fact that someone liked my collection.

    That is the case.
  32. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 12 December 2013 17: 08 New
    +1
    like Moscow already had a similar case, they also seized a couple of unique pistols, only there they disappeared after the seizure ... what can I say, to take away a person’s favorite hobby and what kind of meaning is life like a cattle.
  33. felix
    felix 12 December 2013 18: 06 New
    +1
    As always. Someone for chicken is 5 years old and someone for billions is a suspect or witness.
  34. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 13 December 2013 14: 50 New
    0
    He could give it to the city museum by circulating the complete list through the media to avoid loss.