The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 10 December 2013

The Ukrainian opposition announces the entire last week decisive every day and every night. The Ukrainian government is quietly crushing the demonstrators, monotonously announcing the initiation of criminal cases against participants in the riots.

A total of 11 criminal cases were initiated regarding riots, seizure of administrative buildings, violence against law enforcement officers, and intentional damage to property. 9 people arrested by court order. Announced that the Security Service of Ukraine has begun criminal proceedings on the fact of actions aimed at seizing state power.

“Nobody takes power, because power belongs to the people of Ukraine ... We officially appeal to Viktor Yanukovych: attempts to impose a state of emergency are nothing but a coup d'etat by Viktor Yanukovych,” said Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

That is, the power belongs to the people. That is, in fact, Yatsenyuk. A vile Yanukovych wants to take power from Yatsenyuk. That is, to commit a coup! Notice how to treat the current Ukrainian government, it is legitimately elected. And it is recognized by all. She did not postpone and did not cancel any elections. And in relation to the signing of the notorious document with the European Union, it acted in strict accordance with its powers.

That is, appeals of the opposition to overthrow the current government, not to mention the storming of state institutions - this is all about political felony. What, in fact, is built the entire public position of the current government. Actually, it is exhausted by this.

What we saw during the second Maidan?

We saw that the Kiev and Westerners get passionately torn to Europe, not without the help of many years of official propaganda, being sure that they were smeared with honey there. And weakly imagining the value, meaning and result of the event.

We saw that Ukrainian Natsik could mobilize and bring up to the right place up to 10 thousands of trained and well-coordinated militants.

We have seen that the so-called "Europe" is ready to press and instigate the opposition, but is not ready to support it with the whole set of its political tools.

Not ready yet - no illusions. What we have not seen? We did not see the massively impressive reaction of the South-East, the huge pro-Russian Yanukovych electorate? And why did not you see?

The opposition mobilizes its own people, inspiring them with the notorious “Ukrainian dream” and blaming the authorities for the murder of this very dream. Power whines sadly that she also dreams about the same. But in the absence of means of dreaming, one will have to postpone a little. Agree, it is by no means the most inspiring position for mobilizing opponents of defective European pseudo-integration.

That is, relax: nothing fatal is happening now in Kiev and can not happen. There will be no European integration. The carriage will turn into a pumpkin. And the driver in the rat. And, regardless of who will be the coachman.

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[Canep]

That is, relax: nothing fatal is happening now in Kiev and can not happen. There will be no European integration. The carriage will turn into a pumpkin. And the driver in the rat. And, regardless of who will be the coachman.

If Ukraine enters the EU, then the pumpkin will also rot, and the coachman - the rat will die. Ukraine rolled out in general a watermelon (pumpkin) to Europeans.

[Tersky]

Quote: Mikhail Leontyev

we did not see him? We did not see the massive reaction of the South-East, a huge pro-Russian Yanukovych electorate? And why didn’t you see?

So the answer on the surface - Jankovic promised his voters the Russian language, rapprochement with Russia, curbing aggressive Westernism, and everything else, but did the opposite. Recently, somewhere in the southeast, even a museum was opened, which is dedicated to the promises that Yanukovych made but did not fulfill. It seems to me that it will be replenished with more than one "exhibit" ..

[S_mirnov]

In fact, Misha Leontyev is afraid to make one simple conclusion. If the president and the government of the country does not have the support of citizens, then any paid

Quote: Tersky

10 thousand trained and coordinated militants.

can shake this mode to the ground.
If the government and the president defend the interests of bankers and oligarchs and do not care about the people, then the people will not go to defend such a government, no matter how much the government organizes "Fair" elections and no matter how much it tries to look legitimate.
If the people are for their president, then the paid "Activists" will not do anything for such a regime, the people themselves will not let them roam, even without riot police.
But M Leontyev is afraid of this conclusion, because parallels are suggesting themselves.

[31231]

Does the experience of the Syrian shockers say nothing?
A straitjacket is needed violently, and not 10 thousand rubles.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: S_mirnov

Quote: Tersky
10 thousand trained and coordinated militants.
can shake this mode to the ground.

A lot of yours on the swamp shocked?

[A.YARY]

Alexander Romanov good afternoon
he is not a swamp shushera meant I think
and general position. In principle, he’s right, there’s nothing to argue with. Unlike the Maydan, they don’t want to hear any arguments and listen.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: A.YARY

he is not a swamp shushera meant I think

Hello! Yes, Smirnov writes everything about Putin, always and everywhere. So, who and what he meant, and so it is clear.

[S_mirnov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

A lot of yours on the swamp shocked?

Are you demonizing me again? I already said that I do not support the Swamp organizing committee.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: S_mirnov

I already said that I do not support the Swamp organizing committee.

And we have no other in Russia.

[S_mirnov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And we have no other in Russia.

Bipolar tv fans really don't! But I think you are not so primitive as to divide the world into Zaputin and Marsh.
Thanks to all the readers who supported me. I would love to talk more, but it's time to work.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: S_mirnov

Bipolar tv fans really don't!

yes there is, but they all went to the swamp together

[alexng]

You know. if one person is obsessed with sex and the other denies it, then they are both glued to this addiction with superglue, and are sexually preoccupied.
Just like you, you are also a "putinoid" and it does not matter with which plus or minus sign, i.e. You are a path dependent person. There will be no Putin, you glue the flippers. This is a chronic disease and cannot be treated.

[alexng]

Oh-ho-ho! How the "S_mirnovs" got wild in earnest. So my comment hit the bull's eye.

[S_mirnov]

Personally, I plusanul, in something you are right. And GDP is just a symbol of the group of traders who are currently steering. There will be him, there will be Medvedev, or Abramovich, or Prokhorov, no matter.

Quote: alexneg

There will be no Putin, you glue the flippers.

It is unlikely that after the destruction of the USSR, so many reptiles popped up! At least the same Solzhenitsyn, it seems, died, and the bastards dug up or added his unpublished manuscripts. He also craps the country after death.

[Umar]

S_mirnov

quote [quote] [/ quote At least the same Solzhenitsyn seems to have died, and the bastards dug up or added his unpublished manuscripts. He spoils the country after death.]

I completely agree with you, some unfortunately did make some kind of hero out of him

[alexng]

Two friends meet after a long separation.
- Great, Nikolai, how are you, where do you work?
- In the KGB, a security officer.
- Do not lie, the KGB has long been gone!
- You do not understand, I work in the Kirov City Bath, I check the checks!

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

A lot of yours on the swamp shocked?

It is impossible to level the marsh and Maidan.
wading is plankton, office boys
Maidan - this is hundreds, if not thousands, of radical rebels
I personally do not like the power of Yanukovych, but I also do not need Maidans with a raging crowd that has no purpose.
And the crowd is always destructive. About this Lebon wrote in the 19th century, if not mistaken.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: zmey_gadukin

wading is plankton, office boys
Maidan - this is hundreds, if not thousands, of radical rebels

One and the same, and there and there at the microphone those who want to gain power. Both there and there are a lot of misfits of militants who are ready to enter into a fight with the police. The essence is the same, a change of power. The money is the same from the same Moscow embassy of the United States.

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

One and the same, and there and there at the microphone those who want to gain power.

I agree with that

Quote: Alexander Romanov

militants ready to fight with the police.

For online broadcasts, I would not say that. Personally, of course, was not present, but read regularly.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: zmey_gadukin

. Personally, of course, was not present, but read regularly.

Watching from what point to look, from one silence and peace, and in another place the batches go. Regarding LiveJournal, take a look there, they’re writing right now. Everything is the same, any revolution or attempt to overthrow the government goes according to the established scenario. The only difference is the different activity of the population.

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

With regards to LJ, take a look there now write.

Yes, I read. I read all points of view. + Call up friends from Kiev regularly.

[Mikhail3]

And what difference does it make? The main thing to announce loudly-shocked to the ground !! And then relentlessly repeat - we were shocked !! Effective management did not appear from scratch. But it grew out of this idea here - no matter what really happened, the main thing is that we will talk about it. I personally admire S_mirnov. Very indicative posts - as if you were reading the Methodska itself, the newsletter from the embassy. He doesn’t even redo it, so he posts, according to the paragraph.

[Yura]

Quote: S_mirnov

If the government and the president protect the interests of bankers and oligarchs and do not care for the people, then such a government will not go to protect the people

Quote: S_mirnov

If the people are for their president, then the paid "Activists" will not do anything to such a regime, the people themselves will not let them roam, even without the OMON

And here you are right for all 100.

[A.YARY]

Not so often I agree with S_mirnov (Alexander) but, in this particular case, everything is correct, the parallels are asking themselves!
And who is against .... well, I'll wait until the summer, when his "Twix" will introduce payment for light at the new rates! Zhinka has already calculated: it is necessary to buy candles, the Stone Age is on the threshold!

[Genry]

Quote: S_mirnov

If the government and the president protect the interests of bankers and oligarchs and do not care for the people

Already passed the full stage of the denial of bankers and oligarchs in 1917. The next day, after the old ones, new ones appeared.
We need a balance, something in between Russia after the 1917 revolution and today's America. Khrushchev's period was optimal in the world, then the "razor" began (globalization of financial and industrial ...).

[Don]

You do not seem to understand what is happening in Ukraine if you draw such conclusions.

Quote: S_mirnov

But M Leontyev is afraid of this conclusion, because parallels are suggesting themselves.

What is the parallel? Both Putin and Yanukovych have popular support. Putin really has a lot more.

[poquello]

Quote: S_mirnov

If the people are for their president, then the paid "Activists" will not do anything for such a regime, the people themselves will not let them roam, even without riot police.
But M Leontyev is afraid of this conclusion, because parallels are suggesting themselves.

Firstly, Leontyev made this conclusion, or you read it inattentively, or you need direct text.
Secondly, look at the ratings and stop considering yourself the whole people of Russia, then the parallels in your head will pass.

[alone]

Quote: S_mirnov

But M Leontyev is afraid of this conclusion, because parallels are suggesting themselves.

what parallels are Alexander! Leontyev is merely a herald of authority. And says only what they allow him. Such as Leontyev in every country of the former union there is in every TV channel)) sits and speaks like smart things, and if you listen more closely, every citizen knows. measures allowed))

[APES]

Quote: Tersky

which gave, but did not fulfill, Yanukovych

There are such people that to be under their command is the end .........

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Tersky

Yankovitch promised his voters the Russian language, rapprochement with Russia, curbing aggressive Westernism, and all the rest, but did the opposite.

Viktor Fedorovich in his actions is similar to another Fedorovich, who is Alexander Kerensky.

[Kubanets]

An interesting comparison And Lenin - Yatsenyuk And Trotsky is not otherwise Tyagnybok? Nonsense. The question will be whether the Ukrainian Russian or gentry is independent of these puppets

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Kubanets

An interesting comparison And Lenin - Yatsenyuk And Trotsky is not otherwise Tyagnybok? Nonsense. The question will be whether the Ukrainian Russian or gentry is independent of these puppets

Not at all ...
Judging by the lack of decisive actions on the part of the legitimate authorities to suppress the outrages committed in Kiev and in the "zapadEnshchina", Yanyk and Co. clearly claim to be analogous to the Provisional Government of 1917. Fear of spilling yushka "rEvolutionaries" (what if the West stops loving?) And will lead the country (?) To self-destruction.
Power and it’s given that b country lived calmly, flourished. Trying to be liberals (both yours and ours), like any compromises, road to nowhere.

[Grandson of Veteran]

"promised his voters the Russian language, rapprochement with Russia, curbing aggressive Westernism, and so on, but did the opposite."
Not just the opposite! He "rode on a swing" all the time - a step to the EU, a step to Russia, a step to the EU, a step to Russia .... "Give everyone, the bed will break" - so my father says. Here it is, the crib, and could not stand it.

[andru_007]

In other words, Yanukovych p .... al the trust placed in him. While the Southeast is watching the show from the side. I don’t know what or who will mobilize about the Russian part of Ukraine (which by the way is the majority), but one thing is clear it will definitely not be Yanukovych, who is essentially a political corpse!
Reasoning, I recalled Odessa Markov, who, even before the summit and EuroMaidan-2, had entered into a confrontation with Yanukovych and received some wave of support from the Southeast ....

[Akim]

Quote: andru_007

Reasoning, I recalled Odessa Markov, who, even before the summit and EuroMaidan-2, had entered into a confrontation with Yanukovych and received some wave of support from the Southeast ....

Just do not touch Markov. Holy, holy Let him sit.

[andru_007]

I don’t know who Markov is, maybe that bandit can’t even say anything, but the fact remains. Events associated with him, in any case, people in the Crimea and Odessa excited.
So, the relative passivity of the Southeast is so far connected only with the lack of an adequate leader. The potential is off-scale (this can be seen both in personal communication and in online activity in various forums)!

[Akim]

Quote: andru_007

Events associated with him, in any case, people in the Crimea and Odessa excited.

I will not say about the Crimea, but in Odessa they say: Thank God that they planted.

[Don]

Quote: Akim

I will not say about the Crimea, but in Odessa they say: Thank God that they planted.

I don’t know who is talking, but my friends from Odessa are saying exactly the opposite. Although of course how many people have so many opinions.

[andru_007]

It’s not even about Markov. Southeast is waiting for a leader on this expectation new names should come (I hope that Southeast will not "join" the same Fedorovich).
As for the president. One thing is that, despite the Maidan - 2, the South-East, in fact, disowned Yanukovych and remained on the sidelines, on the one hand it pleases (you need to get rid of the villains), but on the other, it worries that there is no leader to follow.
Although a pause is needed, I think until March there will be a reformatting of politicians. I think in March we should expect Maidan - 3. I think then new names of the Southeast will appear (of course, I can be mistaken, but soon we will see what’s going on).
Leontiev is right, nothing crucial is happening in Kiev now. The main battle ahead is in the spring, possibly in March ...

[Reasonable, 2,3]

The East is working. There is no time for it to ruin the walls of state institutions and to pick out snot on the morse. Unlike the poor Maidan people are busy with business.

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Reasonable, 2,3

East is working. people are busy with business.

But this is the truth.
We all got this fuss on the Maidan. With the exception of rare extremists.

[rubs]

East works

That's right.
I would go to the square in Lugansk, if there was a call from at least someone. However, I’m not a Western farmer who doesn’t care to do in December anyway. And not a student, who will not even lose a scholarship for participating in the "revolution" (this is how they are now fighting the government - at the expense of the government).
And I can’t stumble on the Maidan for days. I have to pay taxes to the Treasury. And earn a living while there are orders.
In the meantime, I hear only timid revelations on regional TV and streamlined excuses on the central.
Although all this kipish raised the topic! Here at the forum in Lugansk there was a cry of deputies and business that without Russia, that (the event was awarded 10 seconds of air 1 + 1). And before that, deathly silence. I really thought only I, a simple artisan, needed a Customs Union.
I understand that now no word about the vehicle. I hope that after the riot the conversation will improve.

[Rusich51]

We saw that the Kiev and Westerners get passionately torn to Europe, not without the help of many years of official propaganda, being sure that they were smeared with honey there. And weakly imagining the value, meaning and result of the event.

Rusichi in Little Russia do not let yourself circle the Westerners as suckers.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Canep

If Ukraine joins the EU

1. Association - not membership
2. 2013-2014 there is an active probe that you can really grab the EU and Russia
3. The association will be signed in 2014 unambiguously, but by the end of the year, closer to the election
4. Spring 2015 "Big" Maidan 3.0.
4.1 Russia will introduce a facilitated visa regime with Ukraine and strengthen customs regimes
5. 2015-2016 sale of Ukraine by the Permitted Land Cadastre
6. 2017-2025 Latifundia. Wild field. Amen

[Cherdak]

Quote: Cherdak

active probing that you can really grab the EU

Well, it started: A review by Ukraine of its decision not to sign an association agreement with the European Union will cost the community € 20 billion, or $ 27.5 billion.

[mirag2]

I actually thought that when Yanukovych leaves for China, then at that time they will scatter the whole Maidan-hard.

[Lord of the Sith]

Since yesterday evening, almost scattered.

[ReifA]

"We are officially addressing Viktor Yanukovych: attempts to introduce a state of emergency are nothing more than a coup d'etat by Viktor Yanukovych," said Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
This tin is simple. The president made a coup to become .... the president. Ingenious! Divine!
Hand face.
And is this the opposition?

[Galich Kos]

Quote: ReifA

stated Arseniy Yatsenyuk

Hungry rabbit attacks!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ReifA

"We are officially addressing Viktor Yanukovych

Yeah, there was a live broadcast posted by MG 42 from maidan, so they turn to Yanukovych waving American flags

[PSih2097]

Quote: ReifA

This tin is simple. The president made a coup to become .... the president. Ingenious! Divine!
Hand face.
And is this the opposition?

Well, maybe they its constitution (which the zone wrote Pale with a scythe) interpret this situation ...

[zmey_gadukin]

ReifA Ahead of my comment.

[IGS]

Everything repeats itself ... first a tragedy ... then a farce .. Does the agitation remind you of anything? And she is over 70 years old. As I understand it, many Ukrainians do not know their history and do not want to know, even if they thought where it came from: "Glory to Ukraine." To the heroes "glory ...", where did this slogan come from and what feats that shouted this slogan did.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: IGS

many Ukrainians do not know their history and do not want to know, even if they thought where it came from: "Glory to Ukraine." Glory to the heroes ... "

So what to do?
The official history of Ukraine began to correspond since 2004.
The great holiday "Holodomor" appeared (as the second step of separating Russians from Ukrainians, the first step was Kuchma's book that Ukrainians are not Russians). The heirs of Bandera and Shukhevych MANAGED TO AGREEMENT with the rest of Nezalezhnoy residents, but the main thing with the authorities is that the heroes of UNA-UNSO and the SS Galicia division are not subject to jurisdiction. That the bad NKVD was doing no less abominations in western Ukraine (or even more!).
That's the whole story ...
It was in Russia that we considered ourselves brothers of Ukrainians, arguing for a common history (!), Language, compact living, religion ...
But no.
Garny lads and maids agree to consider us, Russians, brothers only for a certain bribe - "... you hass us, preferably for free, and we will think - who is closer to us ...".

[IGS]

I agree with you. But they would not have dragged Russia and Russians in this perspective. UNA-UNSO and the "Galicia" division did IT on their own land with the UKRAINIANS, and with other peoples living in Ukraine, remember Lvov. Here they are the European integrators of the past, whose business is now blooming on the Maidan, even the slogans have not changed. I wonder if such people come to power, they will put half of those who are on the Maidan against the wall, or will not be trifling, everyone, including the Poles, ...

[domokl]

to the point. Now there’s bargaining who will give Ukraine more. But for some reason no one is eager to give. And what happened is just a rehearsal for the next election. That's where it will work.

[Tersky]

Quote: domokl

But for some reason no one is eager to give.

So who will give it, it is not clear to anyone and it is not known why. This is money down the drain. Alexander, !

[domokl]

Victor ! The fact of the matter is that Ukrainian politicians can’t understand in any way that they cannot sell the country all the time. The EU and the USA do not have the habit of buying goods twice. Russia can do it twice and thrice, but there are some borders here. and got it.
Now only a complete restoration of economic relations with Russia can save Ukraine from collapse. And this is already impossible. For some reason, we do not notice the leaders of Kazakhstan and Belarus. And they just can prevent indulgences for Ukraine. TS works and gives fruit. Why again the smut of the union?

[Setrac]

Quote: domokl

And they just can prevent indulgences for Ukraine. The TS works and gives fruit. Why again is the union a pain in the neck?

No concessions. In the vehicle only on a general basis.

[I am a Russian]

Quote: domokl

Ukrainian politicians can’t understand in any way that they cannot always sell the country.

... rarely rented out

[saag]

"That is, relax: nothing fateful is happening in Kiev now and cannot happen. There will be no European integration. The carriage will turn into a pumpkin. And the coachman into a rat. Moreover, regardless of who is the coachman."
Too categorically, Yanukovych has already announced that the association agreement will be signed in March 2014

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: saag

Yanukovych has already announced that the association agreement will be signed in March 2014

Prior to this, he announced that he would be signed in November in Vilnius.

[andru_007]

There is a feeling that the postponement until March and the relative silence of the Kremlin about the events in Kiev links in one chain.
As Putin said, a false start occurred. We need a postponement, because in the next 3 months, GDP should be the host of Sochi-2014. I think that the Olympics will be held and the Kremlin will seriously engage in Ukraine.

[shinobi]

And then like Hadji Nasreddin-Ili, the donkey dies or the Padishah.

[major071]

Well, Yatsenyuk's statement killed me altogether. “I’m not me and not my woman” - Yanukovych is to blame for everything.

[MG42]

Today, from 01-00 in Kiev, the storming of the barricades on the Maidan with a golden eagle continues, just at that time, European Commission Deputy Chairwoman Catherine Ashton and US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland are in Kiev, like this is a night on Maidan, watch live broadcasts from Maidan ..
I look at the moment three at once

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1s1bj6AZE#t=1906695

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan

Obviously today there will be a continuation of the banquet

[cosmos111]

Quote: MG42

Today from 01-00 in Kiev the storming of the barricades on the Maidan Golden Eagle continues

MG42, and why stump acceleration, Maidanists do not use water cannons?
The first thing at -7 gr. You can disperse in 10 minutes.

[Horst78]

The first thing at -7 gr. You can disperse in 10 minutes.

Tyk is not humane geyroptsy peck

[MG42]

Quote: cosmos111

why stump acceleration, Maidanists do not use water cannons?

Now it was shown on the air that only the Maidanists themselves are using "water cannons" against the golden eagle, three buses with the golden eagle drove up to storm the Kiev mayor's office, the Maidanists are pouring water on the Berkut members from the second and third floors of their fire hoses ... and frost, however, minus 9 degrees. The golden eagle uses tear gas in response and batons.

[Akim]

Quote: MG42

, Maidanists water Berkut residents from the second and third floors of their fire hoses ..

At the flea market at Institutskaya, they were also watered from the baklaks. but the BBC is silent.

[MG42]

Today, something will happen or Azarov will resign with the government or they will introduce an emergency with all the consequences, and Yanukovych will be sanctioned .. IMHO

[Akim]

Quote: MG42

or Azarov will resign with the government or introduce an emergency

We'll see ...

[MG42]

Quote: Akim

We'll see ...

Several more. days ago he said that Azarov will be the "sacred victim" of the Maidan? judging by the fact that the golden eagle has now left all occupied positions, it will be so ..

[Akim]

Quote: MG42

fishing for the fact that the golden eagle has now left all occupied positions will be just that ..

But the Berkut city administration is storming. Looked now EuroNews, CNEN and BBC. The journalist of the latter in a helmet especially smiled. But the information is 30 seconds 1,5 and 2 minutes. Bole talked about meeting Obama with Castro. And we have to scream that all the leading foreign media outlets are just boiling about us ..

[Defender]

On the buildings where the "Maidanists" have settled, they will turn off the gas, water, heat tap, well, they will lower the switch down ... They freely settled on state funds, damn it ...

[operrus]

Especially in the cold, although this is probably sadism. But they will run fast.

[poquello]

hollows got, where does the double answer come from?

[poquello]

Quote: MG42

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1s1bj6AZE#t=1906695

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan
.....

there I look at comments continuous Russian well-wishers

[Sunjar]

We are waiting for the unfortunate political prisoners whose rights are being violated. And the fact that they thrashed with chains, pressed on tractors, threw Molotov cocktails at the Ukrainian police was the fight against Yanukovych's "regime" (a sacred cause), and the fact that they were caught by the hand at the crime scene, and there is also a video recording - this is all a lie and provocation, and in general everything is planned by the Kremlin (the building). Geyropa and the United States are indignant about undemocraticism and threaten with even greater chaos, Putin tells about the independent choice of the people with whom to be (with a barely noticeable sly grin). Well, somehow I see the further development of events.

[makarov]

With all due respect to the author, he made one omission, namely, gaining experience in opposing the large crowd system. Therefore, it is impossible to exclude a repetition of what happened, but only with a weapon in hand. Then, it will already really be a disaster ... and it is possible to scare very few people now, in accordance with the norms of the new Code of Criminal Procedure, the case is initiated immediately upon receipt by the duty officers of the victim’s application, and the audit closes for lack of corpus delicti .. now in Ukraine even for robbery there is only a penalty .....

[hohryakov066]

You know, God forbid it comes to shooting. If in such a crowd there is someone who shot at "Berkutovtsy" and even wounded or killed someone .... One machine gun can sweep away the entire Maidan in 4-5 minutes and the silence will be like in a cemetery. And there it will already be equally divided on the laws. Who did it first. I say again: "God forbid!"

[old rocket man]

A carriage will turn into a pumpkin. A coachman in a rat. Moreover, regardless of who will be the coachman.

One hundred percent. And the pumpkin will rot, and the coachman (rat) will die.
But I don’t understand the euphoria about the rejection of the EU, the rat clearly said: I’ll sign it, but later. Like, I’ll break the wire, but I’ll give one thing.
Well, only one thing - the people will see who is who and "try to live in Europe", I think the rest ... t quickly

[Genry]

The rat wants to sign before the election, when the economy is still by inertia and the euphoria of zapadentsev rises.

[askort154]

Yanukovych's uncertainty in his decisions recalls Nicholas II in 1916. Having woken up in the morning, he does not know what to do during the day. What did he count on, having gathered a council of three former? Is that all
they are pro-Westerners, will advise him to join the TS ?! He has a clear imbalance: growth, intelligence and self-confidence.

[Andrew 447]

now in Ukraine even a robbery is provided for only a fine ..... Are you seriously? Well then, my congratulations to the people of Ukraine. And you can pay for the murder VIRU?

[morpogr]

The rehearsal for the 2015 elections went perfectly well, everyone fulfilled their roles. Now the script will be amended and the first branch of the campaign before the elections, the second elections themselves and the culmination of the theater of the absurdity will be announced again. The poor Ukrainians live in this circus for a long time. It's a pity the people and the country.

[alekSASHKA-36]

[We did not see the mass impressive reaction of the South-East], and therefore there is none, the "Nazis" on the Maidan are paid for the reaction from behind the hill, and no one is feeding the demonstration to the South-East!

[IGS]

What is being paid is, to say the least ... read the link about the side job offers http://vk.com/club51936140 there first-hand and prices.

[saag]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Prior to this, he announced that he would be signed in November in Vilnius.

Well, he still wants to see three "retirees" somehow convinced him

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: saag

Well, anyway, because he wants to,

Wishlist has grown.

[Belogor]

Little depends on Yanukovych; he is only the mouthpiece and puppet of the Ukrainian oligarchy.
And they have a dilemma - West or East. Both there and there, they are not very (for a number of reasons) comfortable.

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Belogor

Little depends on Yanukovych; he is only the mouthpiece and puppet of the Ukrainian oligarchy.

Well, I would not say that. Viti and his oligarchic clan is not weak. Rumor has it that it was precisely because of this that he and Rinat fell into disgrace

[31231]

Brothers, live as you already know. Will you be offended by us ?!
Think of the "inept dancer".

[Encoder]

I don’t know what will end now, but last time like this:
http://warfiles.ru/show-43786-kazn-pervyh-evrointegratorov-ukrainy-v-fevrale-194
6-goda.html

[Begemot]

History repeats itself. First as a tragedy, later as a farce. Buza on the Maidan has become like national fun for zapadentsev. If everyone has already tasted the orange shrimp and poured, then repeating the European bus is already more like a diagnosis.

[Karabin]

What didn’t we see? We did not see the massive reaction of the South-East, a huge pro-Russian Yanukovych electorate? And why didn’t you see?
Maybe because, in addition to everything else, the pro-Russian electorate is not interested in the current government in Russia.

[Genry]

The show needs money and producers.

[Grbear]

You won’t envy Yanuka. It is difficult to combine both the Traitor and the Father in one person. A person in front of a bifurcation.

[Andrey Ulyanovsky]

Yatsenyuki is terribly far away ... from the people, like the Yanukovychs. For ... the carriers of freedom (liberal democrats) with their antics.

[polly]

"What did we see during the second Maidan?"
We saw from last year that the Ukrainian opposition is the most "peaceful" opposition in the world!

[Ivanovich47]

The presence of foreign politicians at opposition rallies is at least surprising. This is nothing more than contempt of Ukraine as a sovereign state. Western politicians unceremoniously interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine. We have an arrogant and cynical policy of the West towards those governments that are "out of step" with the United States and NATO.

[kare]

"No one is seizing power, because the power belongs to the people of Ukraine ... We are officially addressing Viktor Yanukovych: attempts to impose a state of emergency are nothing more than a coup d'etat by Viktor Yanukovych," Arseniy Yatsenyuk said.
Wow, what cosmic stupidity. In truth, according to relics and fir trees. The stupidity committed by the actions and words of the current government is worth the stupidity committed by the opposition.

[128mgb]

Thank God, at least some progress has begun to restore order. Honestly, I would love to see how the Berkutian gentleman gently lowers a rubber baton on the head of this Yatsenyuk!

[rubs]

I support your "bloodthirstiness"! Only I can imagine - butt on glasses.

[Manager]

This joke seemed very funny to me. (It's just that some foolish people imagine the situation in Ukraine this way)

[PSih2097]

18:00 I go to the Russian Embassy and steal their WiFi

smiled ...

[irongun]

Are you talking about some other country. Not about Ukraine. If our southern Ukrainian brothers were poor, stupid and greedy, they would run after Putin with his cheap gas. After the agreement with Europe, Ukraine will not get better, rather it will become worse. But there will be a hope that over time, very soon, the medieval godfather may perhaps turn into a normal country, with laws, with a normal parliament, without wild corruption. Maybe hope will not come true. But by contacting a raw materials appendage, saving on gas, delaying default for a couple of years, Ukraine certainly loses this hope. For your and our freedom! Glory to Ukraine!

[poquello]

Quote: irongun

... Maybe hope will not come true. But by contacting a raw materials appendage, saving on gas, delaying default for a couple of years, Ukraine certainly loses this hope. For your and our freedom! Glory to Ukraine!

You yourself are an appendage. You are doing a whore from Ukraine, Europe will give you 2 kopecks, you will be fucked and cry from pity for you.

[irongun]

Quote: poquello

You yourself are an appendage. You are doing a whore from Ukraine, Europe will give you 2 kopecks, you will be fucked and cry from pity for you

This is you for me, half-venerable, well-groomed "older Russian brother?"
I see what kind of pedagogues you are, pigeons. And the cultural-culture of the gateway and climbs out of the mouth. Fight under the broom, gopot!

[poquello]

Quote: irongun

Quote: poquello

You yourself are an appendage. You are doing a whore from Ukraine, Europe will give you 2 kopecks, you will be fucked and cry from pity for you

This is you for me, half-venerable, well-groomed "older Russian brother?"
I see what kind of pedagogues you are, pigeons. And the cultural-culture of the gateway and climbs out of the mouth. Fight under the broom, gopot!

Darkness. You need to know Soviet jokes - in them is the wisdom of the people, it is also in the subject. Russia has already seen all this, and as a drunken president before the Germans, he played on spoons, not in vain in a kokoshnik and sundress. Glory to the Lord, survived, rose.
Go already, eat the cookie.

[IGS]

But there will be a hope that over time, very soon, the medieval godfather may perhaps turn into a normal country, with laws, with a normal parliament, without wild corruption.

The country will not be such "Ukraine". And if there will be another revolution, as you call it (what are you changing the system there?) "Revolution about nothing" will finish it off. What kind of democracy are you? Democracy is the observance of laws, decisions on the basis of voting, and no one has a louder throat, the Yanuca themselves elected, themselves confirmed its legitimacy, be so kind as to comply, otherwise they are used to "revolutionizing" in hysteria. For our freedom, we are like a thread ourselves, without you bawling. About "Glory to Ukraine!" .... do you know the continuation? "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the hero! Glory to the nation, death to the enemies!", And where is he from? from the same place where this one comes from: "One race, one nation, one Ukraine!" Do you know who bawled him? And what feats did they accomplish?
So these "heroes", who create this on their own land, are not glory, but a place near par..shi. So shove your slogans into yourself .., "hero" damn .. and the word "Ukraine" is not a mess.

[Akim]

Yesterday it was filmed - in Illichivsk a little New Year's Kiev (what it should have been!)

[Egor69]

Good day, gentlemen)). I phoned former colleagues from Ukraine. They explained the following, there will be no integration with Europe for one reason, the Europeans demand the unconditional release of Yulia Tymoshenko. However, this will not happen under any president. They are afraid that on exit, with the stolen money, she will buy up all of Ukraine and become the only oligarch. All the events in Kiev are the struggle of the oligarchs with the "family" (Yanukovych), which owns the coal mining industry and is trying to become the only supplier of hydrocarbons (coal) in the country, ALWAYS "squeezing out" more or less profitable businesses. Most of those hanging out on the Maidan receive a salary of 80 hryvnia per day from interested parties. With our money, as I understand it, this is 20 rubles. I can imagine what kind of life there is, for 20 rubles to receive a cudgel from a golden eagle on the hump.))))))))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Egor69

Egor69

Your koment strongly pulls one minus. I’m not going to write about Julia, but I could look at the hryvnia on the Internet and find out what the hryvnia against the ruble is.

[Egor69]

I absolutely do not see the difference — what for 20 rubles, what for 320 rubles a day to get a hump, though, to someone 10 rubles is money.)))) And about minus — for God's sake, only other news from the source, rather than from net, is desirable state)))))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Egor69

And about minus, for God's sake

I didn’t put it to you, it’s so figurative.

Quote: Egor69

, only it is desirable to provide other news from the source, and not to expose from neta))

Yes, see he lain broadcast, what is in the way?

[Akim]

Quote: Egor69

only desirable other news from the source, and not from the net to expose)))))

From the source - I recently talked on skype with Kiev. Answer: I'm tired of everybody!

[Delta]

Quote: Akim

recently talked on skype with Kiev. Answer: We got everything!

but not all of me. I, a native Kiev resident, were fed up by pedestrian peasants bawling their slogans. It is those who spoiled my city 9 years ago and are doing it now. And also their leaders - political prostitutes such as Yatsenyuk, who even then slandered everything and now will do the same, because they have no single goal or unity of command. There are only ambitions and loot of the States, which seize the next territory with the hands of our cattle. Why I do not struggle with them, some will ask. Yes, because I am a civilized person, I don’t take down monuments, I don’t throat slogans. And I express my will in the elections, AS A EUROPEAN. Sorry ... this is a cry from the soul

[vostok1982]

80 hryvnias = 320 rubles.

[officer29]

80GRN for Russian money is 320 rubles or 10 ovsk green! The cost of lunch in an inexpensive cafe. In general, they revolutionize for EdU (United Ukraine - the party of Yushchenko)!

[malikov]

80 grv - 320 rubles .... this is a completely different matter ... the author wanted to underestimate the standard of living in Ukraine 16 times)))))

[vostok1982]

Yanukovych vilely betrayed us - the Russian inhabitants of Ukraine. Why support it? So that he would sign the association in 2-3 years, when he bargains for favorable conditions for his clan? If he went out to the people somewhere in Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Sevastopol or Donetsk and declared publicly: “Brothers, I realized your mistakes, go out into the streets. And even better - if he signed, and then called to the streets.
Millions would come out. And not these marginal ducks who descended from the dense mountain farms, but strong, working peasants and former military men.

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: vostok1982

"Brothers, I realized my mistakes, go out into the streets. As soon as we drive the Bandera people into the caches, I will sign the entry into the Customs Union." And even better - if I signed it and then invited me to the streets. Millions would come out.

perhaps this is just a fairy tale.
but I would like to believe.

[Cristall]

come out if they’ll be very tight .. and if they sign with the TS, they will drink at home in the heat.
The zapadents will come out ... by the way, it's good to do in the summer - they work. Experience has put a big bolt on them at their screams ...

[I am a Russian]

"We saw that the Kiev and Zapadenskaya get-togethers are eagerly eager to go to Europe, ... and have little idea of ​​the price, meaning and result of the event."

Yes, they all understand! Leaving everything as it is is impossible. No one wants to raise Ukraine on their own, neither the Ukrainian authorities nor the Ukrainians themselves. This path is too long, and no one wants to "tighten the belt" and work for the good of the country.
The desired way for the Ukrainian is to take someone else's money ... put part in the business ... pocket part and wait.

"That is, relax ..." - the author ... more correctly ... you write an article, not a comment.

[TS3sta3]

Maidan root:

[I am a Russian]

Quote: TS3sta3

Maidan root:

nonsense

This is the "root" - the lack of money of the masses, degradation, envy, laziness, professional unsuitability, low qualifications, theft, a favorite position - "I will look from the outside, and then I decide to work or bawl"

[TS3sta3]

the seeds of revolution fell on fertile soil.
and in which country there are no vices? in which country is it not possible to organize a revolution, if there is such a goal and there is money for its implementation?

[MolGro]

Ukrainian MPs are writing an application to the EU !!

[Akim]

Yanukovych is playing for time. On the one hand, it is correct, on the other, the society, thanks to our media, is developing the "Stockholm Syndrome", it is trusted less and less.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Akim

Yanukovych is pulling time.

I do not think so ...
It looks like prostration - on the one hand, the reluctance to solve the problem by the security forces (and there is no other way out), on the other hand, ordinary fear (to diarrhea!) To pass for a tyrant in the eyes of DARKMocratic publicity.
The events on the Maidan are turning into a permanent show for Western "unbiased" media from "Oh, good people, they kill!" to "Oh, good people, I'm not guilty ..".
The solution may be as follows.
BLOCK with concrete blocks (Three floors) maydanutyh, chop off ALL COMMUNICATIONS, including cell towers. Nekhay rash ...

[Akim]

Quote: stalkerwalker

BLOCK with concrete blocks (Three floors) maydanutyh, chop off ALL COMMUNICATIONS, including cell towers. Nekhay crap ..

For the ghetto, the people of Ukraine are definitely not going to pat him on the head. Need another way.

[illarion]

After the construction of the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg, a huge pile of garbage and building material remained. Vedomosti wrote that anyone could take what he wanted from construction. It took 2 days. After a day everyone was taken away.
So you need another freebie. Arrange a free concert in the other end of the city with free condoms and hot tea. Artists are more attractive to hire. Everyone will run away from Maidan. During this time, the Golden Eagle will clear everything from drunken and mud * kov.
And urgently asphalt everything so that there was nothing to throw)))

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Akim

For the ghetto, the people of Ukraine are definitely not going to stroke him on the head

If the Maidan people themselves ask for this ghetto, do they themselves enclose it? It is only necessary to declare an unfavorable sanitary and epidemiological situation, all the more so because signs of domestic tuberculosis have been revealed there.
So, let them live, maydan. Inside. Without taking the infection out.

Quote: Akim

Need another way.

And there is no other way.
There are only compromises with this crowd, and the instigators behind them. And, as you know, a compromise is a half-hearted decision ...
Those. the authorities, if they want to really solve the problem of the ILLEGAL Maidan, must act decisively. And not to arrange a "tea party" with the same obkakans, who profiled and spread the country in their pockets, their own and their friends.

[irongun]

Quote: stalkerwalker

BLOCK with concrete blocks (Three floors) maydanutyh, chop off ALL COMMUNICATIONS, including cell towers. Nekhay rash ...

And what is yours, (removed by censorship, but very poor expression), half-honored, what do the citizens of another country, not the Russian colony, do?
Barricade your house as you wish, from migrants, homosexuals, Greenpeaces, liberals, pi.ndosov and others, other, other, from everything that allegedly "prevents the Russians from living." And in Kiev, the citizens of Ukraine themselves will figure it out.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: irongun

And what is yours, (removed by censorship, but very poor expression), half-honored, what do the citizens of another country, not the Russian colony, do?

What are you doing here, adviser? Are you smart? Liberate and tolerate?

Quote: irongun

And in Kiev - the citizens of Ukraine themselves will understand.

For the poor and the wretched, I explain that people like lovers of someone else’s grief, who are often visited in Kiev in the hope of making political capital (and maybe financial) in the wake of the Nazi and anti-state coup.
Add - Maidan - this is not the whole of Kiev. And Kiev is far from the whole of Ukraine.

[irongun]

Quote: stalkerwalker

What are you doing here, adviser? Are you smart? Liberate and tolerate?

What a rude opponent! The word is such. But your clever, probably, words - well, I just don’t understand! You grow and liberal! (Tolera and liberal). No TSB, no Wiki. Well, it’s not allowed to know the poor and the wretched. It’s goodbye. Take care of yourself. Nerve cells must be protected! And take better care of your country.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: irongun

You grow and liberal! (Tolera and liberal). No TSB, no Wiki. Well, it’s evident that they are not allowed to know the poor and the wretched.

Do you go to school? In the 5th grade? Is there a dad with mom? Ask them.

Quote: irongun

And take better care of your country.

Without snotty, I’ll figure out what to do and who to take care of.

[Michael_59]

Everything is sad. The West (NATO) clearly remembers its defeat to the Soviet Union (Warsaw Bloc) in 1968. No matter how much they want revenge for the Danube ...

[Akula999]

I want to believe that Leontiev is right. We will cede Ukraine, we will lose Russia.

[zbidnev]

Power acts unprofessionally. But in another way she cannot. The selection of personnel in the power structures takes place according to the criteria according to which all these ministers and heads of regional departments are unable to make decisions quickly, are deprived of initiative and are corrupt. The Yanukovych team all these years was engaged in sawing on which it sits - and got what it did. Now the situation is stalemate - the authorities cannot, and the opposition also stalled. Here it is necessary to agree. There is a lot of incriminating evidence for each oppositionist, they have weaknesses - where is this SBU, SVR, etc. - let them work out their bread.

[Cristall]

However, this is a program about trends ... We have already discussed this a bunch of times
still rummage through the archives ... how cleverly in the transfer they conveyed the trend of "exact" signing of the association this November Well, 100% will simply sign ... but wait, they gnaw at what happens. How sickening ... Leontyev does not say anything new, he only voices what we already know.
I have an interesting question - they began to treat us better at the forum since they didn’t sign up? To us it is to the country. The answer is no.

[MolGro]

some do not know what they are voicing, either laziness or dumb and they need to clarify too)))
For example, do not go far, ask anyone on the Maidan, namely, it is written in the agreement with the EU?)

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Cristall

I have an interesting question - they began to treat us better at the forum since they didn’t sign up? To us it is to the country. The answer is no.

The answer is not at all interesting ...
They didn’t get any better. It's right. How can it be, not that it’s good, but at least with understanding refers to the people who, with the stubbornness of a maniac, are sawing bitches under themselves? In such cases, they make medical diagnoses.

[Strezhevchanin]

I would like to send Michael McFaul to the aid of the Maidan, with additional adjustment in Smolensk, of course
I sympathize with the lads that the kitchen boxer was a European girl !!!

[HollyGremlin]

I remember the code Kochinsky fell, Cagliostro was shown on TV like that. Where he says "Every foreigner who sets foot on the Russian land will perish near Smolensk"

[andru_007]

maybe it's better to send Breivik to the Maidan ...