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North Korean cleaning

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North Korean cleaning

The leadership of North Korea are large-scale stripping. In Pyongyang, reports appeared a week ago that Chan Song Taek, who was considered the second person of North Korea, who was called the "gray cardinal", lost all his posts and was expelled from the Communist Party. At the same time, the North Korean media showed footage of the arrest of Uncle Kim Jong-un. The “gray cardinal” was arrested during a Politburo meeting, in the presence of the commander in chief, Marshal Kim Jong-un. According to the South Korean media, the second man in the DPRK has already been executed. True, there is no complete confidence in this information, since the South Korean media have repeatedly spread misinformation about the events in North Korea.


More recently, Chan Song Thaek was at the top of the North Korean political Olympus. The right hand of the head of state, the main adviser to Kim Jong-un, the vice-chairman of the National Defense Committee, the head of the organizational department of the Central Committee of the Korean Labor Party, and finally the test of the founder of the DPRK, Kim Il Sung. Chan Song Thaek was married to the native aunt of state leader Kim Kyung Hee and was considered almost the regent of the young state leader who took over as head of the DPRK after the death of his father, Kim Jong Il. Now Chan Song Thaek is "a state criminal steeped in corruption and debauchery." He is accused of counterrevolutionary and anti-party activities, corruption, extramarital affairs and drug smuggling.

The throne under the "gray cardinal" reeled back in November, when a message appeared about the arrest and execution of his closest aides. At the same time, an influential politician ceased to appear in public. South Korean intelligence concluded from this that Chan Song Thaek was defeated in the struggle for influence over the DPRK leader. Thus, RK deputy Zhong Chun Re reported that experts on the DPRK believe that he may have lost the power struggle to the general director of the Korean People’s Army Politburo Cho Rhön.

According to South Korean intelligence, which has its own sources of information in North Korea, in the second half of November, two main assistants of the “gray cardinal” were publicly executed - Ri En Ha and Chan Su Gil. Sources from the National Intelligence Service (LDC) of South Korea reported that they are investigating many officials in positions of responsibility in various North Korean government structures. All of them are united by the fact of belonging to the “party of the gray cardinal”. At the same time, Pyongyang recalled the North Korean ambassadors in Cuba and Malaysia. Both of them are related to Chan Song Taek. Obviously, the matter will not end there, and the purges at the top and middle level of the leadership of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea will continue.

South Korean sources also reported that Pyongyang had notified Beijing in advance that Chan Song Thaq would soon face political oblivion. The former vice-chairman of the National Defense Committee was highly respected and trusted by the Chinese leadership. He oversaw relations with China and the trade and economic zone located near the Chinese border. Therefore, Pyongyang tried to prevent possible negative consequences for bilateral relations. In China, this message was refuted, saying that they do not know anything at all about the resignation of Tran Sung Taek (this statement was made before Pyongyang’s official statement), not to mention that Pyongyang warned Beijing in advance.

In addition, the South Korean media have voiced a number of reasons why they shot the gray cardinal. In particular, the newspaper "Chunan Ilbo" reported that Chan Song Thaek had recently criticized the actions of Kim Jong-un, argued with the North Korean leader and also very freely conducted in his presence, undermining the authority of the leader. Thus, Chan Song Thaek spoke out against a sharp increase in the number of trade and economic zones (TEC). Their number will be increased to 14. In them, Pyongyang plans to attract foreign capital. Uncle Kim Jong-un believed that we must continue to develop two zones - Rajin and Hwangpphen. He was also opposed to the temporary closure of the inter-Korean industrial complex in Keson. This decision was made by Kim after rising tensions with South Korea and the United States. Chan Song Thaek behaved quite voluntarily during official events, which harmed Kim's authority and made him see a potential political rival.

December 9 received an official confirmation of the North Korean authorities about the deprivation of all posts and the expulsion from the party of Chang Son Tak. In the “Report on the extended meeting of the party’s political bureau,” circulated through the channels of the Central Telegraph Agency of Korea (CTC), “the Chang Sung Taek group was engaged in anti-state, anti-people criminal activities”. The activities of a criminal group violated a unified system of leadership and caused great harm to the state and the people. North Korea’s main party newspaper, Nodon Sinmun, has published a large article on this case.

At the same time in South Korea spread the information that Chan Song Taek was already executed. Seoul-based radio station Free North Korea reported that the “Chang Son Taek criminal group” was shot on December 5 at the location of the DPRK leader’s security service in the Ronson district of the North Korean capital. In Seoul, it is believed that the decision to displace Chan was made at a meeting of the Party Politburo not on December 8, as reported by the TsTAK, but a few days earlier.

Assumptions

It should be noted that North Korea is still a "closed country." The movement of information is very limited. Most News comes not directly, but through the second or third hands. Therefore, the internal processes in the DPRK are little known, and it is extremely difficult to evaluate them. Experts put forward a variety of assumptions about recent events. In general, everyone agrees that there is an increase in Kim Jong-un's sole authority. He conducts a “cleansing” of the circle that came to power under his father and puts new people completely dependent on him. This is common in stories of humanity. Indicative political processes and cleansing of the military-political elites - all this has already been repeatedly.

So, the following fact is quite indicative. During the funeral of Kim Jong-il for the hearse, in addition to Kim Jong-un, there were eight people. It was the “core of leadership” of the DPRK. So far, only two of these eight have retained their posts. And these are deep old people, who for 80 have been for years and they are de facto unable to conduct business for health reasons, occupying high positions only nominally. From the rest of the new leader of North Korea somehow freed. The purge began with the military, and now they have reached the “untouchable” Chan Song Thaek. In this regard, Kim Jong Un is not original and only repeated the path of his father Kim Jong Il and grandfather Kim Il Sung. Those who received power, also quickly, decisively and firmly freed themselves from the old dignitaries, making a bet on the formation of their personality cult and authoritarian leadership. Judging by all the facts, this is what the current North Korean leader is doing now.

As for possible changes in other areas - ideology, Pyongyang’s foreign and domestic policy, relations with South Korea, the military sphere, structural reforms of the economy - experts disagree. Assumptions and forecasts - the most different. From rising tensions and screwing up nuts, to softening policies and sweeping economic reforms in North Korea. Thus, the repressed Chan was considered a representative of the moderate wing of the North Korean elite, set up to further develop relations with the South. He was called a technocrat in favor of reform. Now Pyongyang can continue the policy of heightening tension, strengthening the image of the “external enemy” in the person of South Korea and the United States in order to rally society. North Korea and so in recent times makes harsh statements, and Seoul and Washington are holding large-scale military exercises, provoking the North to respond.

Representatives of the military and intelligence agencies of South Korea have already expressed fears that the elimination of Chan was caused by a defeat in the fight against the “military party” and could lead to an increase in border tensions. Pyongyang can activate the atomic program and go on forcing tension. In addition, the North Korean trade and economic zone Hwangymphen on the border with the PRC may suffer. Chan was her curator.

However, no less and those who believe that the removal of the "gray cardinal" does not particularly affect the foreign policy of the North. There is a significant likelihood that, having finished the old elite, Kim Jong-un will more actively carry out economic reforms. This includes the appearance of new trade and economic zones. Pyongyang plans to create them in each province, which can attract foreign capital and give impetus to the development of the economy of North Korea.
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  1. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 07: 50
    +8
    Yes, business, the uncle probably said to his nephew like "Mapui, you fool" and then about the uncle they said in a whisper, "He knew too much"
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 11 December 2013 10: 42
      +9
      Each hut has its own toys (c).
      as they say, North Koreans like to live according to Juche, let them live, and the fact that big bosses are periodically blinded, so the Korean people are neither warm nor cold. Ordinary palace intrigues with mortar shots.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 11 December 2013 13: 21
        +5
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        as they say, like North Koreans live on juche let it live

        Of course I like it. Absolutely everyone. Complete unity of the people. And those who do not like it are not part of the people, but their enemy.
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 11 December 2013 15: 51
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Each hut has its own toys (c).
        as they say, North Koreans like to live according to Juche, let them live, and the fact that big bosses are periodically blinded, so the Korean people are neither warm nor cold. Ordinary palace intrigues with mortar shots.

        The Korean people are cold and hungry. To what extent can such a hardworking, hardworking people be brought up, it's just insanity.
        1. bilgesez
          bilgesez 11 December 2013 21: 45
          -3
          Well, we don’t have much better
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 12 December 2013 00: 35
            -1
            Quote: bilgesez
            Well, we don’t have much better

            That is the problem.
          2. Sakhalininsk
            Sakhalininsk 12 December 2013 02: 10
            0
            Quote: bilgesez
            Well, we don’t have much better


            Come on? What is really not so much?
            What are we building for work and work from the canteen? You do not have access to the media of any kind and mood? You buy food on coupons ...
            Yes, you seem to be, as the character of one film said: "if there is a little bit of it, you just got drunk here!"
        2. mark021105
          mark021105 12 December 2013 18: 27
          0
          Have you been there before claiming that there people are dying of hunger?
      3. lilit.193
        lilit.193 11 December 2013 18: 29
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Ordinary palace intrigues with mortar shots

        And this Chan, too, with a mortar banged or sewn in the old way?
        1. alone
          alone 11 December 2013 21: 05
          +1
          Well, let's just say that because he’s still an uncle, they’ll just hang him or put a bullet in his forehead crying or maybe they’ve already done it.
        2. Sakhalininsk
          Sakhalininsk 12 December 2013 02: 12
          0
          Quote: lilit.193
          And this Chan, too, with a mortar banged or sewn in the old way?


          Yes, the dog knows him ... young Kim is still a creative artist, maybe he came up with something more interesting, or maybe, taking into account family ties, he simply ordered his uncle to be brought out into the open field, put his face to the wall and put a bullet in his forehead laughing
          1. vanaheym
            vanaheym 12 December 2013 04: 22
            0
            Quote: Sakhalininets
            put your face to the wall and put a bullet in the forehead

            Really creative
    2. AVV
      AVV 12 December 2013 00: 03
      +1
      Beria just resting, judging by the latest information from North Korea !!!
  2. clidon
    clidon 11 December 2013 08: 04
    +3
    Interestingly, these are the first official arrests of the highest officials of the DPRK since 1956, and even practically a member of the divine family. Kim Jong-un seems to have decided to strengthen sole power.
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 11 December 2013 09: 33
      12
      That would have come and arrested Serdyukov! And then, it seems that the bill on amnesty is aimed at the rehabilitation of the SERDYUKOVSCHINA ... belay
      1. complete zero
        complete zero 11 December 2013 09: 39
        +5
        I didn’t understand anything with Serdyukov, they arranged a circus, it would be better if we didn’t start ...
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 11 December 2013 10: 54
          +4
          Yeah, negligence is not that article. If the amount of damage is measured not in rubles, but in tanks and aircraft, then here we will get a sabotage, treason, etc.

          But interestingly, not so long ago there was information about 2-3 soldiers who stole some boards with the S-300 for sale on a precious metal. Here is what article they slapped and how much they gave?
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 11 December 2013 10: 59
        +3
        Quote: LaGlobal
        That would have come and arrested Serdyukov!

        Perhaps that’s why she’s afraid to come to her new job, otherwise they have already raised his level from a witness to a suspect ...
        And at the expense of Korea, actually nothing surprising, the purge of the elites was always and everywhere and in any order. The only thing that annoys, the southerners, as always, distinguished themselves, just to blurt out something, they always shot someone in the DPRK, moreover, from a mortar ... apparently American grandmothers are practicing.
      3. complete zero
        complete zero 11 December 2013 15: 53
        +3
        there would be an opportunity, I would plus you 1000000 times (for Serdyukov), they were waiting for the landing ... wait for the amnesty nonsense!
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  3. Coward
    Coward 11 December 2013 08: 13
    +5
    and was considered almost a regent under the young leader
    Like many regents, he decided not to give power to the fledgling prince, but miscalculated.
  4. bairat
    bairat 11 December 2013 08: 21
    +5
    Korean comrades pace vigorously
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 11 December 2013 22: 29
      +3
      Some officers are nothing, like. Or am I getting old?
      1. vanaheym
        vanaheym 12 December 2013 04: 25
        +2
        They would have a look with makeup more vigorously - and in general it would be good ..
        Pleased with the stern guys with pink paper flowers :)
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 12 December 2013 10: 48
          0
          Pleased with the stern guys with pink paper flowers :)

          lol
        2. nerd.su
          nerd.su 12 December 2013 10: 51
          0
          Quote: vanaheym
          They would have a look with makeup more vigorously - and in general it would be good ..

          That is, do you value outfit and makeup in girls? laughing
          Deeply, however, glamor penetrated people's minds ...
          1. vanaheym
            vanaheym 14 December 2013 05: 24
            0
            Ladies in uniform - not mine ..
    2. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      Andrey Ulyanovsky 12 December 2013 10: 35
      +1
      Korean women are cool girls, he was friends when he lived in St. Petersburg in Kamchatka. Neighbors are like Koreans in Asia as Jews in Europe - cunning and smart.
  5. makarov
    makarov 11 December 2013 08: 23
    +3
    Koreans are very difficult to understand, they are somehow unpredictable ...
    1. mark021105
      mark021105 12 December 2013 18: 26
      0
      Are you talking about Koreans? About the North, South or ours, Soviet?))) hi
  6. Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 11 December 2013 08: 28
    +6
    We, too, would not hurt to "clean up".
    1. mzaitseva77
      mzaitseva77 11 December 2013 13: 24
      +5
      Clean up? Better to "shoot" right away. Better to start with Serdyukov and Trotsky aka Chubais.
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  7. Syrzhn
    Syrzhn 11 December 2013 08: 35
    +7
    Bobblehead, raging! And, in general, it was necessary to uncle from the mortar right at the meeting of that ...)))
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 11 December 2013 11: 06
      -1
      Quote: Syrzhn
      And, in general, it was necessary to uncle from the mortar right at the meeting of that ...)))

      Yeah, since everyone was brainwashed about the atrocities of the North Koreans, then why lose something ..
      1. clidon
        clidon 11 December 2013 11: 20
        +4
        There, and without atrocities, it is enough from which the hairs stand on end. Nationalist monarchy in the 21st century.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 11 December 2013 13: 19
          +1
          Quote: clidon
          There, and without atrocities, it is enough from which the hairs stand on end.

          examples in the studio
          Quote: clidon
          Nationalist monarchy in the 21st century.

          What else nationalist monarchy ??? What is nationalism to do with it?
          Well, there is only one similarity with the monarchy, because of the great reputation of the first national leader, his descendants are also respected ... otherwise the socialist model is completely opposite to the monarchy!
          1. clidon
            clidon 11 December 2013 15: 30
            +3
            examples in the studio

            The regime of total surveillance and control over citizens is even a simple trip to another city, only with the permission of the authorities. Famine of the late 90s. The internal caste organization of society, which in fact inherited the feudal customs of pre-Japanese Korea.

            The usual one, with the ideas of Juche and the Greatest Korean People, who sought everything himself. Nationalism there is just Asian, but in a tougher version - that is, mononation - all foreigners (even with mixed marriages) were thrown out of the country back in the 60s, and there will never be new ones. No Chinese, let alone Russians. Only guests.

            Well, there is only one similarity with the monarchy, which, because of the huge reputation of the first national leader, his descendants are also respected ...

            You are apparently new to even the official North Korean rhetoric. The Kimov family is a divine family whose Godlessness and the mandate of heaven can be traced even before the appearance of his grandfather (who smashed Americans in the 19th century). The country keeps only at the expense of it.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 11 December 2013 15: 34
              +2
              It's nice that at least someone here carefully studied the topic.
            2. DEfindER
              DEfindER 12 December 2013 12: 33
              +1
              Quote: clidon
              The regime of total surveillance and control over citizens is even a simple trip to another city, only with the permission of the authorities.

              Well, they made fun, did the South Koreans tell you this? It's like a bike in the USSR that every person was watched :) Would you even imagine how this is even possible? Total surveillance there goes only for the guests, and this can be understood, because the West is waging war against the DPRK by all possible means, and if they had not had nuclear weapons, there would have been no DPRK for a long time.
              Quote: clidon
              Famine of the late 90s.

              And what do you want the USSR did not become, the West became completely insolent and began to strangle all remaining social states with sanctions ..
              Quote: clidon
              with the ideas of Juche and the Greatest Korean People who achieved everything Himself.

              Do you contradict yourself? Do you already decide what the people have achieved, Juche ideas or their uniqueness?
              Quote: clidon
              Nationalism there is just Asian, but in a tougher version - that is, mononation - all foreigners (even with mixed marriages) were thrown out of the country back in the 60s, and there will never be new ones.

              Nationalism is there only in one country in Japan, in the DPRK there has never been anything like it, the first time I hear from you.
              1. clidon
                clidon 12 December 2013 13: 39
                0
                DEfindER
                Well, they made fun, did the South Koreans tell you this? It's like a bike that in the USSR every person was watched :)

                Do you think that there are only two sources on S. Korea - that is, Korea Today magazine and the South Korean press? This is said by people who lived and worked in the DPRK. Now it has become easier with the "home" mode. In the 50s-90s, if he decided to spend the night in another apartment, he had to make an entry in the journal “left” and “arrived” with the respective elders at home and even indicate the reason.
                However, about moving you can read what at least Russian tourists write - how many roadblocks are on the road and how only cars with appropriate signs (for example, travel agents) do not stop for inspection and inspection.

                And what do you want the USSR did not become, the West became completely insolent and began to strangle all remaining social states with sanctions ..

                Before that, the DPRK had no special relations with the West, and in general it did not care about the sanctions. Moreover, since the late 90s, she regularly receives help (and offers of cooperation) from there, and much more than from her "friends". Have you heard about the Kaesong Economic Zone?

                Do you contradict yourself? Do you already decide what the people have achieved, Juche ideas or their uniqueness?

                Read the Juche idea - in general, the idea is there - The Greatest People in the world, thanks to its exceptionality, received the Great Family of Leaders. Only by preserving and protecting it the Great People will move forward and sweep away everything in its path.
                Actually, they do not deny that other nations, in principle, can get the same leaders. But apparently they didn’t deserve it, which history confirms.

                Nationalism is there only in one country in Japan, in the DPRK there has never been anything like it, the first time I hear from you.

                Well, depending on what sources to use. Japan, of course, is also not a gift in terms of national politics, but in the DPRK in the 60s there was a struggle against cosmopolitanism and all foreigners (even marriages were terminated from the country). Ask how many foreigners are in this country right now.

                PS In my opinion, you are making a mistake, considering the northerners as something like a small clone of the USSR with its own specifics. In fact, this is a completely different political system, for which socialist rhetoric was not particularly important before, but is now gradually disappearing.
        2. nerd.su
          nerd.su 11 December 2013 15: 51
          +1
          Quote: clidon
          There, and without atrocities, it’s enough that the hair stand on end

          About the USSR they carried the same nonsense at the time ...
          1. clidon
            clidon 11 December 2013 16: 28
            +3
            They carry nonsense, because the society is information-closed. And of course, it doesn’t cause sympathy among writers.
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 11 December 2013 21: 50
              +3
              Quote: clidon
              They carry nonsense, because the society is information-closed. And of course, it doesn’t cause sympathy among writers.

              Yes, I have no doubt that most writers have one desire - drink ... talk. Ah, the hunger of the 90s! But the Koreans managed to preserve what no socialism is. We sold for a beautiful candy wrapper everything that previous generations have achieved. And all the achievements in the first place.
              So everything is relative. The thing is, with what to compare ...
              1. clidon
                clidon 11 December 2013 22: 41
                -1
                Well, let's be objective and not bump into the opposite .. Not "ah hunger of the 90s", but fucking! In an Asian country that sells missiles and has the fourth largest Armed Forces, hundreds of thousands of people died and ate cake and in some places there is still it. And one of the most important areas of foreign policy activity is, in fact, the racket of neighbors.
                Moreover, there is actually not so much true socialism in S. Korea - the Juche is moving further and further from the theories of K. Mars and other Engels. I have the general impression that Kims would have generally abandoned such a concept as socialism away if they had not received help from China.
                1. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 12 December 2013 13: 05
                  0
                  Quote: clidon
                  an Asian country that sells rockets and has the fourth largest armed forces, the people died hundreds of thousands of oil cake and where it is still there.

                  Say thanks to those who introduced bans on trade with the DPRK in the 90s.
                  from Wikipedia, the famine lasted from 1995 to 1999, was caused by a sharp reduction in international supplies, low yields in the country, as well as weather conditions (floods, droughts). According to the number of victims, the number is estimated from 10 to fantastic figures of 000 million, again, an analogy with the USSR arises when the hunger of the 3s was estimated by some storytellers in almost 30% of the population ..
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 12 December 2013 13: 45
                    0
                    International it is what. You will clarify. Soviet and Chinese first and second. The DPRK coexisted favorably between two fires - the USSR and China and each had a gesheft, not really thinking about the economy. And when the trough (though from the USSR, China continued to "pay", but less) covered itself, giving rise to a crisis. For which the authorities were not ready and did NOTHING.
                    Hunger had colossal proportions, both in the USSR and in the DPRK, if we ignore any 30% of the population and "tens of millions." The most probable figures on hunger in the UK (officially called the "difficult trip") from moderate experts are about half a million people. The DPRK officials themselves speak of a figure of "several hundred thousand."
                    And, of course, it’s not the Korean authorities who are to blame, but the enemies from abroad. Which actually saved the country by supplying millions of tons of rice.
  8. darksoul
    darksoul 11 December 2013 08: 38
    +1
    Kim Jong-un just removed an influential figure from the arena, apparently began to be afraid of the uncle
  9. ImPerts
    ImPerts 11 December 2013 08: 49
    +3
    Most likely, the new leader of the DPRK wants a cult and does not intend to limit himself. Therefore, it removes all the checks and balances.
    But maybe he decided to radically change the political system in the state, and the old mastodons prevented him? Time will tell why this is happening. bully
    1. Altona
      Altona 15 December 2013 13: 21
      0
      Well, he added trump cards to himself ... Eliminates corrupt officials and bureaucrats who have taken root, does not spare his relatives in the name of a common cause, does not tolerate licking ... It’s a logical step at the top post ... At the same time, the creeps of other schemers who cherished some hopes for change of the ruling dynasty ... Everything is in the eastern traditions and there is nothing to complain about ...
  10. Ols76
    Ols76 11 December 2013 08: 54
    +3
    uncle knew too much.
  11. Takashi
    Takashi 11 December 2013 09: 06
    +2
    sorry for uncle.
    Quickly, however, they shot him. in 5 days!
    For counter-revolution and anti-party activities, corruption, extramarital affairs and drug smuggling.?
    - "For counter-revolution and anti-party activities" - a man has been at the "helm" for so long. A bunch of relatives in power, including ambassadors.
    - "corruption" - ?? there is party corruption led by the party.
    - "fornication" - he's old ... what kind of connections. :) :)
    - drugs -? the country is completely closed
    1. Kolovrat77
      Kolovrat77 11 December 2013 09: 10
      +5
      Quote: Takashi
      - drugs -? the country is completely closed


      He sniffed the glue.
      1. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2013 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: Kolovrat77
        Quote: Takashi
        - drugs -? the country is completely closed

        He sniffed the glue.

        He’s just deep. they brought fat by mail, in Korea it’s a drug.
    2. DEfindER
      DEfindER 11 December 2013 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: Takashi
      - "For counter-revolution and anti-party activities" - a man has been at the "helm" for so long. A bunch of relatives in power, including ambassadors.

      The top has the ability to rot, should we not know ..
      Quote: Takashi
      - "corruption" - ?? there is party corruption led by the party.

      The presence of power always breeds corruption in any system
      Quote: Takashi
      - "fornication" - he's old ... what kind of connections. :) :)

      Berlusconi is even older :)
      Quote: Takashi
      - drugs -? the country is completely closed

      Namely, there are a lot of drugs there, and from abroad they are not a problem for him to bring ..
  12. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 09: 27
    +3
    Quote: Kolovrat77
    He sniffed the glue

    silicate, in cans :-)
    1. Kolovrat77
      Kolovrat77 12 December 2013 04: 59
      0
      Not I was not accurate, he didn’t smell glue, he drank it, he shook the BF onto the drill. The drink is called Boris Fedrych.
  13. vomag
    vomag 11 December 2013 09: 28
    0
    a kind of 37-39g in miniature, that's just the people, as usual, except for the slogans of the red banner and stupid parades, they didn’t give anything and most likely they won’t give anything! follows)
    1. apostrophe
      apostrophe 11 December 2013 10: 35
      +6
      Do you know for sure that you didn’t give anything? Did the BBC say that? The main thing to believe smile
    2. DEfindER
      DEfindER 11 December 2013 11: 25
      +4
      Quote: vomag
      that's just the people as usual except for the slogans of the red banner and stupid parades did not give anything

      They even have slogans and a national idea, we don’t even have that ..
      And the parades are so chic, I would love to watch it. But the coolest parade is still Chinese :)
  14. ZU-23
    ZU-23 11 December 2013 09: 59
    0
    Eun would restore order, if it were not for these Anglo-Saxon sanctions, everything would be all right there, the people there are hardworking.
  15. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 11 December 2013 10: 14
    +1
    And why did this DPRK surrender to you? A nature reserve like Cuba, only Juche.
  16. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 11 December 2013 10: 21
    +3
    Now I learned that S. Korea began to sell gold from its stock to China, of course bully .And there are 2000 tons of it. Kim Il Sung in his will bequeathed not to touch the gold reserve! Apparently, his uncle stood guard over the precepts of Kim Il Sung ...
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 12 December 2013 05: 34
      +1
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      And there it is 2000 tons.

      A rich country - North Korea, richer than Russia and China, which have a gold reserve of about 1000 tons plus or minus.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 12 December 2013 06: 34
        0
        vanaheym, here the phrase is as appropriate as possible for what I bought, for which I am selling:
        How much gold reserves North Korea has is not exactly known. But, according to the South Korean government, it can be estimated at $ 800 million. This is about two thousand tons of yellow metal. Http://nord-news.ru/news/2013/12/11/?newsid=57035
        You are right, sheer absurdity in numbers)))
  17. Black
    Black 11 December 2013 11: 19
    +2
    Uncle-womanizer !!!!! I became ashamed of him ... We understand. recourse
  18. Astartes
    Astartes 11 December 2013 11: 23
    +2
    Hmm, they talk about North Korea on the site, because they talked about the USSR in the West during the Cold War.
  19. Greenwood
    Greenwood 11 December 2013 11: 26
    +1
    Oh, it would not hurt for our officials to ask such a thrashing.
  20. Day 11
    Day 11 11 December 2013 11: 40
    +3
    In order not to repeat the fate of the CPSU, the TPK must be able (and can) self-clean in time!
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2013 18: 50
      0
      Quote: Den 11
      In order not to repeat the fate of the CPSU, the TPK must be able (and can) self-clean in time!

      The whole family will go to camps. as in the best traditions
    2. studentmati
      studentmati 11 December 2013 23: 52
      +2
      Quote: Den 11
      In order not to repeat the fate of the CPSU, the TPK must be able (and can) self-clean in time!

      The basis of any political system is Discipline! Thematic photo, Denis! good Hello my friend!
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 December 2013 00: 10
        +2
        Hi Sasha! I hope that the TPK will find the strength to change the current Leader! This is required by the further path of development of the socialist state. And let people wipe themselves to shreds here --- even Wasserman admitted that socialism is the next step in the development of mankind! science, brother, no arguing against it.
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 12 December 2013 00: 29
          +2
          Wait and see ... What else remains for us?
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      2. Day 11
        Day 11 12 December 2013 00: 32
        +2
        In the photo --- they took him himself. They say that they have already smeared his forehead with "green". Sam jumped to waste money of the party indiscriminately (thinking that he was close) --- keep the answer !!!
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 12 December 2013 00: 36
          +2
          Quote: Den 11
          In the photo --- they took him himself. They say that they have already smeared his forehead with "green". Sam jumped to waste money of the party indiscriminately (thinking that he was close) --- keep the answer !!!


          And I mean the same thing. Discipline is the foundation of every system!
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  21. Algor73
    Algor73 11 December 2013 11: 40
    +2
    Eun removed the competitor, the teacher. What was the motivation is the second question. Sometimes I envy the Koreans. We would have this one for a month. I wonder how much would remain from BP and KM?
  22. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 11 December 2013 11: 52
    +1
    Kim III is putting the "old pakhanov's guard" into circulation ... Interesting, however ... Not that big changes and North Korean "perestroika" are coming. However, this is too bold and so far unfounded assumption. And so, wait and see ...
    1. clidon
      clidon 11 December 2013 15: 42
      +1
      Well, not entirely unfounded. On the one hand, changes are actually taking place in North Korea - for example, they started talking more about attracting foreign tourists (albeit to relatively closed tourist zones on the coast and in the mountains), and again started talking about creating joint economic zones (which in itself is not news), plus the peasants were supposedly allowed not to hand over the entire crop to the state, but to keep part of it (a little truth) for themselves. On the other hand, it is possible that all these were attempts by some group, whose activities Eun pressed down. And now, on the contrary, he will do "as with grandfather" - that is, strive for "stable rigid isolation."
  23. Nayhas
    Nayhas 11 December 2013 13: 30
    +1
    I wonder what the reaction of China will follow. As far as is known, the PRC is trying to direct the DPRK along its path, they started from free economic zones, but it seems that they will soon be a kayuk. Or on the contrary, uncle was their ardent opponent, go and know now ...
  24. Impich
    Impich 11 December 2013 13: 37
    -5
    damned commies .. how much they will spoil the lives of people in the world .. I think that you need to cut them all to one, and this cannibalistic power be anathematized for centuries ...
    1. TS3sta3
      TS3sta3 11 December 2013 13: 59
      +2
      you think like a Bolshevik. Do you want to make red terror?
      1. Impich
        Impich 11 December 2013 14: 06
        -1
        just if you look at world history, then this cannibalistic experiment called communism has failed everywhere .. and everyone who lives on it now suffers .. for example, in the DPRK .. a complete set of komunyak .. hunger, cold, shootings and so on and so forth. As they say, full stuffing ... only shooting along the way and will help the poor inhabitants of the DPRK ...
        1. TS3sta3
          TS3sta3 11 December 2013 14: 47
          +3
          But how do you feel about the idea of ​​shooting one and a half billion communists? and living in the country with the largest and most efficient economy in the world? moreover, in a country armed with nuclear weapons? and in a country that has the largest land army? is the task feasible? by whom? when?
  25. VadimSt
    VadimSt 11 December 2013 13: 55
    +2
    To me, the young leader, is increasingly reminiscent of cannibal presidents, such as Jean Bedel Bokass and Dad Ume Idi Amin.
  26. rudolff
    rudolff 11 December 2013 14: 25
    +2
    I still went to school, caught on the KV radio of North Korea in Russian. Not a single broadcast was complete without mentioning the "great leader and teacher" comrade Kim Il Sung. How many years have passed, the world is already different, but everything is still there. Sorry for them. The whole country lives for the sake and benefit of one family. If Kim senior still aroused some respect, then the heirs of his pure clowns are schizo. In general, it is surprising, a compact territory, one people, one culture, one roots, and how they came from different planets. The South is a state of the 21st century, and the North is marching with leaps and bounds somewhere in the cave past, albeit a nuclear one.
  27. Arkan
    Arkan 11 December 2013 14: 26
    +2
    In the fog of speculation, it is hard to see reality in the DPRK. One thing is clear that Kim Jong Un, the German version of the merger of two ethnically close states, will not work.
    1. lilit.193
      lilit.193 11 December 2013 18: 39
      +2
      Quote: Arkan
      One thing is clear that Kim Jong Un, the German version of the merger of two ethnically close states, will not work.

      This second ethnically close state, too, will not go either for merger or for unification. But everyone will talk about it and shed tears of crocodiles. In the north in its own way, and in the south in its own way.
  28. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 19: 05
    +2
    Quote: Impich
    damned commies .. how much they will spoil the life of people in the world

    You don’t worry so much, will still return in a new quality :-) Only in this way can the present world be changed!
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  30. zennon
    zennon 11 December 2013 20: 57
    0
    Sorrow for the great leader and teacher ...
  31. Sirius-2
    Sirius-2 11 December 2013 21: 02
    +2
    I do not feel sorry for my uncle, who has lived well and comfortably over the years of being in the country's elite, and he probably "removed" someone himself. I feel sorry for ordinary North Koreans. It is on their shoulders that all the "disadvantages" of the reforms will fall. And they are inevitable. It is impossible to be isolated forever. In history, those peoples that chose the path of self-isolation have always ended badly. And will they, the North Koreans, be able to carry out painless reforms? Looking at our Soviet experience of Perestroika, they are more likely to "break the wood" more than us.
  32. voliador
    voliador 11 December 2013 21: 45
    -4
    Stalin is alive. He reincarnated in Kim Jong-un.
  33. propolsky
    propolsky 11 December 2013 22: 31
    0
    Well, right, Santa Barbara!
  34. samoletil18
    samoletil18 11 December 2013 22: 32
    +1
    And some of us, too, from the mortar would not hurt. I think everyone understood whom.
  35. realist
    realist 12 December 2013 11: 59
    0
    Yes, we do not have one, and mortars can not do ....
  36. samoletil18
    samoletil18 13 December 2013 13: 37
    0
    They shot him, everything, the discussion can not continue.