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Vilnius Turning of President Viktor Yanukovych

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The sharp turn, and at the last moment, of Ukraine’s European integration policy at the Vilnius Summit is an unprecedented event in world politics. What should have happened to Yanukovych, who until then had only said that about Euro-association, pushing it in the South-East of Ukraine by hook or by crook, suddenly grieved Europe and its Euro-Ukrainians?




Let us analyze the open official press (they say that 90% of information is taken from it by the CIA-KGB analysts), since insider information, although interesting, may be a provocation. We take a closer look at its dry lines.

Here, President Putin, at a press conference (!), Says, if you think about it, very scary things: “... European dreams are good, but not everyone will reach them ... the text of the agreement on the Euro-Association of Ukraine is very tough”. What's this? And how many "will not make it", and who will it be?

Yanukovych also called the agreement on the Euro-Association of Ukraine before flying to Vilnius a “noose”, and this is indeed a noose, primarily for the industry of Ukraine. The Euro-association will not even lead to the degradation of the Ukrainian economy stretched in time, but to its rapid destruction by “European regulations”. All non-EU experts speak about this (the latter wrote it).

There is no time for adaptation to the economy or the population of Ukraine by the agreement on Euro-Association, and no money is allocated, as in other similar cases, at least with the same Baltic. One billion dollars over 7 years is just a mockery, as Prime Minister Azarov said. An agreement in this form does not bring European prosperity closer.

The European Union, and the main customer of the European association - the United States, brazenly lies that their goal is to help Ukraine with the "European choice." The United States cannot be trusted in such geopolitical matters - they have repeatedly proved this, and the European Union is just a tool of the United States. Western democracy-demagoguery covers up its old policy of “divide and rule”.

Already in the short term, a social catastrophe is almost inevitable in the South-East of Ukraine. Putin had her in mind when he said that “not everyone will reach out,” Yanukovych was scared of her, after all he is from Donbass. Therefore, by the way, the South-East of Ukraine “is silent”. Production has fallen so far only by 6%. This is bad, but not yet critical. The industrial complex of Ukraine is still working, so people in factories and plants still believe the government, are afraid to destabilize themselves.

Galicia, by the way, will suffer much less, because there is practically no industry there, zapadentsy or work as migrant workers, either in agriculture or at rallies. True, subsidies from the East of Ukraine will cease, but you see, they are compensated with grants. After all, Euromaidan has so avenged Yanukovych for Vilnius!

Although Yanukovych is still not against the “European choice,” he realized before Vilnius that the European Union and the United States need only territory, a springboard from him. In a sense, Yanukovych is the Ukrainian equivalent of Yeltsin. From behind Yeltsin, the European Gaidar and his team ruled, because of Yanukovich’s back, the European integrators Lyovochkin-Firtashi, and he rested on the laurels of the "all-Ukrainian leader" and dreamed of becoming "European."

However, like Yeltsin, Yanukovych, someone enlightened at the last moment what fate awaits a Euro-associated Ukraine and his own. (Yeltsin also put Putin at the head of the country at the last moment, and he also laid a sharp political turn.)
If it were at least a colonial agreement, Yanukovych would probably have survived such humiliation from the European Union.

In the end, all the countries of Young Europeans are colonies of Brussels, and the European Union itself is a US semi-colony. The hunt for Snowden has demonstrated this in all its glory. But with the Euro-Association, the United States decided to "blow up" Ukraine, taking advantage of its smoldering schisms. We see now how the Euro-Association already splits Ukraine, and how many fragments there will be - it is impossible to predict, but for the customer it does not matter.

States, it is important that this social explosion will occur at the borders of Russia, and therefore represents a real danger to it. This is their old dream - to create a zone of “controlled chaos” at the borders of Russia, in other words, a “hot spot”, and try to set fire to their strategic competitor, which prevents them from creating a unipolar American world. It will not be possible to set fire - so weaken.

Therefore, Putin is concerned, and at a press conference (!), As a political analyst, frankly speaks of “pogroms” in Kiev, the ordered nature of these events, from outside, which were being prepared for 2015 year. Our notebook political scientists speak much more diplomatically!

This is an unequivocal warning to Obama, sharply, that he is playing with fire ... With this, he is already politically helping Yanukovych, despite his “European choice”, and will help him further, based on Russia's strategic interests: she does not need a “hot spot” its borders.

The last rallies of the Party of Regions are held under the slogan: "Build Europe in Ukraine." In general, the correct slogan, finally came to their senses. Many will agree with him, regardless of how they relate to President Yanukovych. Still, it is better to build in Ukraine than to destroy it for the sake of a friendly pat on the shoulder of euro-associates. Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are considerably more of them than Euro-Ukrainians.
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  1. Volkhov
    Volkhov 10 December 2013 08: 36
    25
    There is a world war, and if Ukraine does not join this camp, it will fall into another — that’s what they fasten it on.
    1. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 10 December 2013 09: 07
      12
      "and the main customer of the Euroassociation is the USA, they blatantly lie .."
      And the king is naked! laughing
      "an unambiguous warning to Obama, in a harsh manner, that he is playing with fire ..."
      Obama is not a player, he is a glove doll dressed in a hand.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 10 December 2013 09: 22
        16
        That's all right. If the people of Ukraine do not build "Europe" for themselves in Ukraine, then no one will build it for them. It is necessary to start with chaos in the heads.
        1. Liss.
          Liss. 10 December 2013 10: 39
          +6
          And to eliminate the devastation in the heads, you need to invest something in them.
          In the 90s, the union idea was amputated and a nationalist idea was implanted under the guise of a national one.
          What to replace, that’s the problem.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 10 December 2013 13: 17
            12
            the saddest thing is that there is no leader even on the horizon ...
            All controlled by someone. Of course, I'm for a pro-Russian guy)). Medvedchuk (one of them - the most basic) will not last long - he’s more serious!
            To be honest, I believe that Ukraine should not be independent in principle. For God's sake, let us have our own constitution, our own president and our own government warehouse, but we need to manage it (send it at the right time) from the Kremlin because there will be no business !! !

            Brothers Ukrainians, do not be angry drinks ... with "nezalezhnosti" it only got worse. just go * t will argue with this. and the farther from the Russian Federation, the worse - THIS IS AN OBVIOUS FACT !!!
            1. smile
              smile 10 December 2013 13: 37
              +6
              silver_roman
              All right. By the way. I was very annoyed by the frames of the private conversation between Comrade Yanukovych and Merkel at the Vilnius Summit - there, Yanukovych, explaining the reason for the POSTPONING signing of the agreement with the EU, knocked his fists and said - I’ve been struggling with strong Russia for three years now, they say, I’m not one from Europe helped ...
              It behaves like my cat, who will be friends with anyone who gets a good bite ... and will not be faithful to anyone (except me :)))). Yanukovych, unlike my cat, is not loyal to anyone ... in the end, Ukraine has the worst of it ... and in general, what is allowed to the cat somehow did not bother the head of state ... such sad zoological associations .. ..
              1. silver_roman
                silver_roman 10 December 2013 13: 51
                +6
                YANUKOVICH - polit. dead body. If some (including me) treated him without an acute gag reflex. attack is only because he was (seemed 0 pro-Russian.
                Now absolutely the whole population hates him. I do not know a person who would be loyal to him.
                Now it all depends on the election of 15 years. because the country will go in that direction, the focus of which will be owned by its new leader, and it is here that the Kremlin needs to try really hard !!!

                ps at the expense of the new leader and the opposition: looked Schuster. I hate television and never watch it, but it happened.
                They gathered a round table from the opposition and party members of the regions.
                In short, the foam from my mouth came from anger from the first part of the program: I don’t remember the names of the opposition (riveting, shrike or something like that ... it doesn’t matter), then I was laughing stupidly from the second part, because I realized how much they ... NOBODY! dictated, he spoke practically. The text was written in Brussels or the embassy of Syshya.
                the video is old, but nothing really changed!
                1. MG42
                  MG42 10 December 2013 14: 37
                  +8
                  Quote: silver_roman
                  YANUKOVICH - polit. dead body.

                  He managed to give a shit on both sides of the Berlin Wall, he won’t win the 2015 elections, except perhaps the power scenario and the presidential election in parliament, where he still has a majority.
                  Quote: silver_roman
                  Now absolutely the whole population hates him. I do not know a person who would be loyal to him

                  He is loved only for the meager money that they pay their own, the crumbs from the master's table ... why did Yanukovych beat his electorate more, delaying teachers and doctors in the east and making him write a vacation at his own expense, only today they showed in a box,
                  http://www.gorod.cn.ua/blogs/jesterec_20913.html
                  while censorship has not been fully introduced, although the process has gone from ddos ​​attacks, they have moved to removing the servers of some media.
                  Such a regime without serious financial injections from outside will not last long .. the currency is empty .. Ukraine’s ratings have only recently been lowered ..
                2. cap-blood
                  cap-blood 10 December 2013 22: 08
                  0
                  Now the situation is such that elections in 2015 may no longer be.
                  1. silver_roman
                    silver_roman 11 December 2013 11: 49
                    0
                    impeachment will not collect votes .. besides, everything will be rigged ...
                    so the election at 15 - to be!
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        4. Polovec
          Polovec 10 December 2013 11: 28
          +8
          No matter how wild this may sound, but I am convinced that if Ukraine somehow (I can’t imagine how) unites with Belarus (naturally, under the leadership of the Old Man), it will not only be saved, but will also show a class that the EU will envy! Maybe they would take us later ...
          But it is only dreams. Serdyukov and his shobla have not yet been imprisoned (and whether they will be imprisoned is a question), but they are going to amnesty, or they will all write off their statutes of limitations.
          Personally, until these creatures are behind bars, I won’t believe in power. And I think that I'm not alone ...
        5. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 10 December 2013 12: 51
          +6
          Quote: Nikolay S.
          That's all right. If the people of Ukraine do not build "Europe" for themselves in Ukraine, then no one will build it for them. It is necessary to start with chaos in the heads.

          What is true is true. And it slowly reaches people.
        6. silver_roman
          silver_roman 10 December 2013 17: 03
          +5
          to be honest, the slogan is stupid: "we will build Europe in Ukraine".
          Many of the qualities of Europe personally do not suit me in principle.
          Yes, our people have always been poor, but we had principles, we drew our happiness from something ordinary. Uncomplicated and simple. I don’t want to see parades in Khreshchatyk n * daras * in (sorry for swearing, but to put it another way), in Troyeshchina and Borshchag so that Ukrainians would be slaughtered by Albanians, Serbs, Africans ... So that half of our girls would be raped by some Turks .. .. NOT HO CHU I am such a Europe.

          Undoubtedly, they have a lot of advantages ... here they also need to be taken for the goal and strive for them ... we always had our own individual way !!!
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 10 December 2013 09: 28
        +4
        One thing is not clear, the Ukrainian people. Well, the last hedgehog in the forest understands what benefit can be from the geyropa, led by the Most Important Democrats. (exceptionally vile, I would say). For more than 20 years already as corrupt ladies. are played.
        Well, at least it would integrate with Europe in the end. at least some choice.
        Although it is known in advance. even in this case. Having become disillusioned with this integration, they will blame Russia for all sins with even greater malice. how the son of a moron blames his parents for everything.
        So she will die without understanding anything.
        1. rolik
          rolik 10 December 2013 21: 01
          +4
          Quote: Sterlya
          . how the son of a moron blames his parents for everything.
          So she will die without understanding anything.

          Very correct words. Always, in everything, absolutely, it will be to blame ... Russia.
          In any case, this has been so until now.
      3. Victor Kamenev
        10 December 2013 16: 03
        +1
        You are, of course, right, but in this case "Obama" expresses the current power clan of the American oligarchy.
      4. avdkrd
        avdkrd 11 December 2013 11: 52
        0
        Quote: Veteran's grandson
        Obama is not a player, he is a glove doll dressed in a hand

        it looks more like the glove wasn’t completely worn on the arm)))
    2. Letterksi
      Letterksi 10 December 2013 09: 56
      +2
      One thing is surprising that the GDP in this world war relies only on the oil pipeline, without raising its production and keeping the Medvedev in the government. And this pipe leads to the camp of the enemy. In this war, the GDP only makes concessions and bribes its potential corrupt "allies" such as Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and now Ukraine, thereby shifting the economic burdens of the war onto the shoulders of its population. In addition, heaping up the Olympics, Caucasus resorts and other wild economic projects. The tactics of the war are strange: take money for oil from their opponents, pay them reparations in the form of contributions to "their" stabilization fund, and then let the rest go to war with him. This tactic is more reminiscent of the betrayal of its own population and finally exhausting it.
      1. Victor Kamenev
        10 December 2013 16: 17
        +4
        In Russia there is a market economy, and also Russia is floating in the world market. Oil is used for everything, for the development of the country, and, most importantly, for the renewal of the military-industrial complex. The military-industrial complex will stand on its feet - it will understand the whole economy, and the military-industrial complex now, under Ragozin, "works rhythmically."
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        2. Letterksi
          Letterksi 10 December 2013 21: 24
          +1
          Will get on the feet of the military-industrial complex - understands the whole economy

          And why would he get to his feet? It seems on the contrary, the implementation of all plans has been extended indefinitely in the future. Since 2010, the pipe has not brought what I would like. And the enterprises are being completely removed from strategic status in order to privatize at the next round of privatization. It’s just that children's faith in Santa Claus that the military-industrial complex will stand on its feet
      2. rolik
        rolik 10 December 2013 21: 05
        +2
        Quote: LetterKsi
        One thing is surprising: the GDP in this world war relies only on an oil pipe,

        He does not hope for a pipe. The government, led by the main chatter, leaves no other alternatives ..... except the pipe. The current government sees only such a path of economic development. Because how to switch to something new, it is necessary to work. And who is able to work in this government ??? Count on the fingers, Onishchenko was fired.
        1. Letterksi
          Letterksi 10 December 2013 21: 29
          0
          And what prevents the sacking of a jerk? The gut is thin? He is afraid to fly out himself if he tramples against the oligarchs, whom he himself has strengthened in power?
          1. rolik
            rolik 10 December 2013 23: 14
            +1
            Quote: LetterKsi
            And what prevents the sacking of a jerk?

            I would like such a gift for the country for the New Year. But I think there are certain agreements. And, as we know, GDP has always kept a personal word. Or maybe she’s just saving the teddy until the moment when it will be necessary to do something to pay off some kind of internal crisis. But it seems that the moment has come.
    3. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 10: 25
      +6
      I agree. The rosy bride, around whom the two gentlemen of the EU and the Russian Federation were hovering, for 20 years "choosing" has lost her attractiveness and it will not be necessary to expect that "the girl to pay" further.
      Radical zapadentsy act as a catalyst, forcing the leadership of Ukraine to decide "for" whites "or" red ".
      And this is the choice of the political future for the long term, if not forever.
      The previous slalom presidents were skillfully shying away from this choice.
      A more or less stable economic situation and a relatively small number of radicals allowed for 20 years to maneuver between "brotherhood" and "independence", seeking tactical handouts.
      The past time has not been in vain for the economy in a coma; a generation has grown up, brought up on the "correct" national history.
      Therefore, the slalom of the present pre-ta resembles the flight of a bear from the mountain according to the flags.
      One thing is for sure - in this slalom, "nezalezhnost" flew out like a bear disease.
      _On the finish: two columns - Europe and Russia.
      It will end with a finishing blow to one of them.
    4. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 10: 25
      +1
      I agree. The rosy bride, around whom the two gentlemen of the EU and the Russian Federation were hovering, for 20 years "choosing" has lost her attractiveness and it will not be necessary to expect that "the girl to pay" further.
      Radical zapadentsy act as a catalyst, forcing the leadership of Ukraine to decide "for" whites "or" red ".
      And this is the choice of the political future for the long term, if not forever.
      The previous slalom presidents were skillfully shying away from this choice.
      A more or less stable economic situation and a relatively small number of radicals allowed for 20 years to maneuver between "brotherhood" and "independence", seeking tactical handouts.
      The past time has not been in vain for the economy in a coma; a generation has grown up, brought up on the "correct" national history.
      Therefore, the slalom of the present pre-ta resembles the flight of a bear from the mountain according to the flags.
      One thing is for sure - in this slalom, "nezalezhnost" flew out like a bear disease.
      _On the finish: two columns - Europe and Russia.
      It will end with a finishing blow to one of them.
    5. mnn_13
      mnn_13 10 December 2013 20: 49
      +2
      Fully agree. And this war Russia will not allow itself to lose. President Putin’s key decision will reorganize state-owned media a step in the right posok. Russia must have launched an active company in the information war. If the war is lost there, it will not save either missiles or tanks or the navy (as the fate of the USSR showed well).
    6. 222222
      222222 11 December 2013 00: 03
      +1
      Volkhov SU Today, 08:36
      There is a world war ....
      Part 1
      “At the same time, the western outskirts of the Russian Empire developed intensively under the influence of the proximity of European civilization, the ease of communication with it and thanks to the purposeful activities of the tsarist government, which tried to distract the border peoples from separatism and nationalism by increasing education and providing all kinds of national, state and other freedoms. the process went too far in the first Russian revolution of 1905. Stolypin made desperate efforts to prevent the impending exodus, but was stopped at the very beginning ...
      By the 1905th century, there was only one force capable of ensuring the unity of the Russian state, but its reputation was shaken during the Russo-Japanese War of 394 S. Witte wrote: “The psyche of all the inhabitants of Russia began to turn over, everyone began to go astray, and in in the end we can say: Russia has gone crazy. Indeed, with what, in essence, did the Russian Empire hold on? Not only primarily, but exclusively by his army. Who created the Russian Empire, turning the Moscow semi-Asian kingdom into the most influential, most dominant, great European power? Only the strength of an army bayonet. Not before our culture, not before our bureaucratic church, not before our wealth and well-being, the light bowed. He worshiped our strength, and when, to a considerable degree, it was exaggerated to see that we were not at all as strong as we thought Russia was a “colossus with feet of clay,” then the picture immediately changed, internal and external enemies raised their heads, and the indifferent began to ignore us ”XNUMX.
      Of the internal enemies, the greatest danger, according to Witte and Stolypin, was not so much the socialists as the liberals. S. Kara-Murza accurately notes this “side of the constitutionalism of the Cadets, which became clear immediately after the promulgation of their program - its incompatibility with the type of coexistence of peoples that has developed in Russia. Taking the West as the ideal of state and social structure, liberals knowingly accepted the prospect of the destruction of Russia as a multinational Eurasian power. Thus, their program doomed Russia to a catastrophe ... This was foreseen by P. Stolypin, who in 1908 warned the liberals: “But do not forget, gentlemen, that the Russian people have always realized that they have settled and grown stronger on the verge of two parts of the world. .. Our eagle, the legacy of Byzantium, is a two-headed eagle. Of course, the one-headed eagles are strong and powerful, but by cutting off our Russian eagle one head facing east, you will not turn it into a one-headed eagle, you will only make it bleed to death ”395. S. Kara-Murza writes: “Now it seems amazing how they (the Cadets - V.G.) could not see the incompatibility of the main goals of the movement (the liberal-bourgeois order - and“ united and indivisible Russia ”), but they really do not saw "" ...
      1. 222222
        222222 11 December 2013 00: 05
        0
        Part 2
        The future chief of staff of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the tsarist army and the founder of the white movement, General Alekseev, who, after the Manifesto on October 17, 1905, wrote that Russian liberalism “differs from the rational European’s liberalism in that the latter recognizes the idea of ​​nationalism, loves his fatherland, cares about his glory and good. Our - denies Russia, cares about its fall and humiliation. All aspirations of "liberalism of the Russian man" - to discredit the army, officers - are directed precisely to this; there will be no reliable military force - and how quickly the destruction of the state will go! ”347
        It was on the national characteristics of Russia that German policy plans were built with the outbreak of the First World War. Ludendorff wrote: “I was determined to restore the civilizational work in the occupied territory, which the Germans had been doing here for many centuries. The population, which is such a mixture of races, cannot create its own culture ... ”Lithuania and Courland should be ruled by a German prince and colonized by German farmers. Poland itself “must recognize German supremacy” 398.
        “A prominent ideologist Shiman proposed transforming the Russian national suburbs into puppet states ruled by Germany“ in the Roman manner ”. His proposals were supported by a number of such pillars of pan-Germanism as Rohrbach, Hadler, Klas, Lezius. The second group of ideologists - Mineke, Delbrück, Schaefer - advocated direct colonization ”399. Back in September 1914, M. Erzeberger set the goal: “The liberation of non-Russian peoples from the Moscow yoke and the realization of self-government of each people. All this under German rule. ” The goal was to “cut off Russia from the Baltic and Black Seas” 400. On April 19, 1917, the headquarters of General Ludendorff issued a brochure, "The Future of Germany," which contained a colorful map of Russia with the designations of the places of residence of the "non-Russian population," explaining the possibility of colonizing Russia. Coal, iron ore and oil of Russia will make Germany a self-sufficient economic value * 01. The future border with Russia was supposed to be drawn along the line "Lake Peypus (Peipsi) - Dvina - Rivne - Zbruch River."
        The main objectives of the German "development" were to become Lithuania and Courland. It was noted that in Courland 10% of the German population already there "would be enough for the Germanization of peasants, workers and intellectuals. Economic measures and German high schools will do their job. ”402. Political activity was banned in the Germans occupied Poland, Lithuania and Courland. Only Germans could be teachers, the language of instruction was only German. The basis of the judicial system was a military tribunal. For colonization, as early as December 1914, it was planned to resettle about 2 million Russian Germans to Poland and Lithuania, and, according to Soring, “in 2-3 generations, Courland will become completely German.” It was supposed to make Poland a buffer zone between Europe and Russia. At the same time, Hoffmann considered it a mistake to stimulate the friendship of Lithuanians and Poles: “Lithuanians should be our allies in the fight against the Poles.” Sering proposed making the most productive Lithuanian peasants “Germans”, and “deporting” Poles from Lithuania ... Hindenburg supported the idea: “To govern these elements, a divide-and-rule policy is needed
        1. 222222
          222222 11 December 2013 00: 06
          0
          Part 3
          On August 3, 1914, Zimmerman pointed out that the Caucasus should be raised against Russia. A Georgian anti-Russian foundation and a legion were created, led by a German captain. Despite the Turkish protest, the German government promised Georgian nationalists to recognize Georgia’s independence from Russia. At the end of the XIXth, a German-Armenian committee was created ... and the prominent economist G. Grote wrote: “The mastery of Armenia will give us a great advantage for the mastery of Mesopotamia ... for domination even over the entire Middle East” 404. “Before the war, Turkish agents and German geologists, archaeologists, orientalists, tourists poured into the Caucasus ... The League of Foreign Peoples of Russia was created ... according to the Russian intelligence on 16.9.13, the German consul in Erzurum Anders spent on espionage and the like activity 10 million marks405. Turkey, in turn, also raised Armenia and Azerbaijan against Russia.
          However, separatist sentiments in the Caucasus at that time were fanned with difficulty. Hoffman pointed out how Caucasians unexpectedly stubbornly fought for Russia406. The idea with the Georgian Legion ended unsuccessfully. Only 400-500 people were recruited into it, mainly from the Georgian Muslims of Lazistan; during the invasion, the Legion met with such hatred and contempt from its fellow tribesmen that it was quickly sent to European Turkey407.
          On August 6, Chancellor Betman-Hollweg promised the Finns the creation of an "autonomous buffer state." The head of the German Foreign Ministry, Yagov, on August 11, 1914, put forward additional measures: “The implementation of the revolution is not only important in Poland, but also in Ukraine: 1. As a means of conducting military operations against Russia. 2. In the event of a favorable end to the war, the creation of several buffer states between Russia, on the one hand, Germany and Austria-Hungary, on the other, is desirable as a means of easing the pressure of the Russian colossus on Western Europe and to push Russia east as much as possible "408.
          Thus, from the first days of the war, Germany carried out active purposeful separatist work, which became an instrument of war, and its results at the same time - the goal of the war. The ideological base of the partition of Russia in 1915-1916. summed up T. Shiman, "who believed that the Russian state is not a product of natural development, but a conglomerate of peoples, artificially held together by a monarchy, which degenerated into despotism" 409. Shiman was right to a certain extent - the overthrow of the monarchy and revolutionary liberalization meant the destruction of the unified Russian state. "
          Galin V.V.
          D 15 Intervention and civil war. (Series: Trends) - M: Algorithm, 2004. - 608 p.
    7. AVV
      AVV 11 December 2013 22: 26
      +1
      This is a greater redistribution, spheres of influence, and expansion of the market !!! And the political game of Washington and Brussels !!! They will not even need Ukraine, they will lower it below the baseboard, they will scoff at it, they will put various conditions !!! But they will to know that they destroy, destroy the Christian culture! Read Dales, he wrote everything and put everything on the shelves !!! Look at Yugoslavia, how they tear it, that is, the West, into small shreds so that no one gets and it is easier to manage the flaps! It also expects an independent one, it is a fact! !!
  2. Lyapis
    Lyapis 10 December 2013 08: 44
    10
    Yanukovych will not be envied now. And in the West they are dissatisfied, and in Russia they do not hold for a comrade, he also found himself guilty around at home.
    1. Kubatai
      Kubatai 10 December 2013 08: 49
      15
      He played for too long on the multi-vector path of Ukraine .. so he played out .. so he was to blame ..
      I would think about the country - at least in my own country I would be good .. otherwise I would like to understand the country's happiness in Europe, but for some reason at the Russian expense ..
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 10 December 2013 13: 41
        +9
        Quote: Kubatai
        He played for too long on the multi-vector path of Ukraine .. that’s it.

        Why are you so attacking the poor president! Indeed, in this very contract as much as 900 pages !!! While translated into Ukrainian .... while from Ukrainian to Russian (to make it clearer), while he read, while he understood .... SO DIRECT AND DEPLOYED FROM EUROPE! fellow
        1. rolik
          rolik 10 December 2013 21: 08
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          SO IMMEDIATELY AND DEPLOYED FROM EUROPE!

          Healthy uncle - inertia did not allow to stop immediately))))))
  3. makarov
    makarov 10 December 2013 08: 57
    +6
    Merkel would have known that Yanek’s middle finger on his right hand doesn’t work, and he makes all the gestures with his index finger, that would be fun. But I guess I think her well-wishers then opened her eyes (?).
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 10 December 2013 09: 51
      +2
      they removed from his tongue that he was showing the wrong finger to Europe.
  4. 123dv
    123dv 10 December 2013 09: 05
    +3
    Check out how in the picture he shows Merkel a finger, convincingly so, with feeling!
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 10 December 2013 12: 49
      +2
      Quote: 123dv
      Check out how in the picture he shows Merkel a finger, convincingly so, with feeling!

      This photo montage, and also low-quality.
      1. cap-blood
        cap-blood 10 December 2013 22: 29
        +1
        Guys, this is not a montage. I personally saw the whole report. He himself was surprised at the courage of Merkel, who was standing nearby, but did not even blink an eye when He turned his fingers and fists near her. I can imagine how low a certain organ fell by the personal protection of the Chancellor. And more than once.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 15: 08
      +1
      Quote: 123dv
      as in the photo he shows his finger Merkel, convincingly so, with feeling!

      And you didn’t understand anything! He explains on Merkel’s fingers that 1 billion is LOW !!!
      1. 123dv
        123dv 10 December 2013 19: 09
        +1
        And count on what it would look like on your fingers to show him 160 billion.
        My imagination is not able to imagine such a picture ...
  5. Sanyht
    Sanyht 10 December 2013 09: 06
    12
    21 years in Ukraine in power or thieves, or TE SHOU NE KRALA RUKAMA ... a lot has been plundered or destroyed, but what was stolen from the people, through the California Courts of the USA, is returned to US taxpayers! we have a life: FUN and SPLASH!
    1. Mr. Gambu4aS
      Mr. Gambu4aS 10 December 2013 16: 46
      +2
      I would like to correct, it is plundered or destroyed a lot of it with us (in the Russian Federation), and you have everything plundered and destroyed!
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 December 2013 09: 18
    +2
    The latest rallies of the Party of Regions are held under the slogan: "Build Europe in Ukraine."

    The slogan may be nothing, but something the European builders do not look very good. And they look like ordinary bosota.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 21
      +1
      As Stalin said, "I have no other writers for you," however, go and take everything into your own hands.
  7. Igor39
    Igor39 10 December 2013 09: 19
    +7
    In Yanukovych, politics is not visible at all, he is a puppet and a blackmailer, until the last moment he wanted to sign the association, thinking that the EU would give money and Putin would not say anything. But the EU threw a hand and Putin announced a protection plan that smelled the collapse of many sectors of the economy. he knows how to steer.
  8. askort154
    askort154 10 December 2013 09: 20
    +8
    Yanukovych put himself in a puddle. Western Ukrainians did not initially accept him, eastern he himself
    "turned away". Now it is unnecessary, neither the one nor the other. The political crisis in Ukraine will be aggravated in many directions. If the opposition wins, then in the future it will "tear itself apart" among itself. Then in full
    voice will speak "Easterners". As a result, division, God forbid, without blood.
  9. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 December 2013 09: 20
    +4
    It is a pity that Putin once put on Yanukovych.
    Although the choice was small.
    Let's hope that the industrial part of Ukraine will say its weighty word and make the right choice.
    1. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 12: 52
      +3
      Putin never publicly spoke out for the election of Yanukovych.
      Therefore, "maydanutye" and sniff in a rag about Russia's interference in their election of the President.
      And beyond the slogan on the yalynka - "Khutina on the puy" - there is nothing to say.

      Another thing is that in Ukraine there is no powerful pro-Russian party with a bright, unsullied leader. There is no core for uniting the allies of Russia.
      Those parties that are, are simply playing out their "pro-Russianism", are busy pulling off the votes of the electorate at the expense of stealing from each other and inter-party squabbles.
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  10. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 10 December 2013 09: 25
    +4
    Do not forget that in the World War there are countries for which (as Pikul says) - "Russia will need 15 divisions to defeat this country, or (if this country takes the side of Russia) 15 divisions to protect this country from defeat by the enemy" wink
  11. Criowoolf
    Criowoolf 10 December 2013 09: 40
    +7
    It would be better if the whole crowd went and held a community work day throughout the city. You look, and they would become more beautiful Europe wink
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 13: 44
      +5
      Quote: Criowoolf
      It would be better if all this crowd went and held a community work day throughout the city.

      So for subbotniks do not pay !!!! am Who will go? wassat
  12. Sergg
    Sergg 10 December 2013 09: 45
    +9
    Personally, I am firmly for the integration of Ukraine and Russia, we are too few to sacrifice our kindred people. Ukraine would get rid of Euro-Maidans and the like, Russia would get rid of the fifth column, such as Chubais, Kudrin, Gref, etc., a whole galaxy of oligarchs led by Abromovich, who received their business from American financial oligarchs. Together we would drive out all this crafty evil from our countries and unite, ENEMY IS PRINCIPLE OF OUR COMMON. WE WILL NOT FORGET ABOUT THIS.
  13. Senya Gorbunkov
    Senya Gorbunkov 10 December 2013 10: 06
    +5
    The world war is going on with the Eurasian civilization, for them we will always be "Tatars" and any piece split off from the Great Tartary or the Golden Horde, to whom it is closer, will not just "be Euro-assimilated" but "destroyed", because Ukraine is Russians for the West, they are then we are not distinguished. They are Tatar, Ukrainian, Armenian .. all are "Russians"

    The history of this war is very long, because there is not a single mention of us in European history, we are always hellish "tar-tara-ry" for them, so the fragments of us, they will not hide, will devour and the appetite of the western chimera is immense, we can say now they trying to swallow the "head" of ancient Russia, then reorient to "white dews", and by that time, some more "Maidan Berdy" will ripen .. in general, the psychology is not even an animal, but some creature from their endless horror movies. . betrays the thinking of the Saviors of the World brought up in comics.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 25
      +2
      That's right, and this aspect should be emphasized in information wars that will not end soon.
      With eurasian greetings!
  14. ed65b
    ed65b 10 December 2013 10: 12
    +1
    But what, a sovereign state, realizing that it comes to him with European integration, a seam cannot come out of it? They would have entered if it would be shitty and the people would come to their senses to go out, send Europe in the ass and cooperate with Russia. Or not?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 13: 46
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Or not?

      Can! Just how many laws to redo, not to mention the standards, about the opening and modernization of closed plants .... and the railway tracks again to shift? You’ll die along the way, not crawling to Russia
    2. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 30
      +3
      By joining the EU, the state loses its sovereignty (and the people). In the EU, there is not even a formal exit mechanism. Then, entangled in debts, treaties and the selling EU bureaucracy, it is practically impossible for the people to do this, and the police special forces work there as in America, not in Kiev.
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man 10 December 2013 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      But what, a sovereign state, realizing that it comes to him with European integration, a seam cannot come out of it? They would have entered if it would be shitty and the people would come to their senses to go out, send Europe in the ass and cooperate with Russia. Or not?


      It is possible, only we must remember that the exit is several times more expensive than the entrance, besides entering some substances, it is no longer possible to wash negative
  15. IRBIS
    IRBIS 10 December 2013 10: 31
    +3
    "One billion dollars for 7 years is just a mockery, as Prime Minister Azarov said. An agreement in this form does not bring European prosperity closer."

    And yet, refusing to join an association is just a matter of money. They would give more - if only we could see them ... We would rush so that the dust is a column! Throwing from side to side, posing everywhere one question - what will I get from this? - this is not the position of a faithful ally. At the first opportunity, everything will return to normal. But Russia, as has happened more than once, will remain "thrown" for money, big money.
    1. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 11: 00
      +4
      Quote: IRBIS
      Still, refusing to join the association is just a matter of money

      Yes sir. Why do all presidents of Ukraine betray their pro-Russian declared vector of interests?
      At the stage of "elections" they need votes. And they "catch" them in the East.
      At the stage of the "presidency" they need a "calm in the country" for the stability of the chair.
      And they fall under the radical Bandera.
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    3. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 33
      +1
      The greed of fraer was killed, the people say in such cases (Europa). And fate gave us a chance to come to our senses.
  16. Viktor Shmagin
    Viktor Shmagin 10 December 2013 10: 31
    +4
    It might be better to disperse in a civilized way, probably not without reason Rudyard Kipling said ... West is west east is east and together it will never be. We with zapadentsev have neither a common history, nor common heroes, nor even a common language. What can be a single people in these conditions
    1. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 10: 48
      +2
      East, Southeast of Ukraine has nothing to do with its West.
      Their heroes are our heroes and the story is common.
      They took part in general historical events.
      The trouble is that the "Nestor-Chroniclers" changed their assessment.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 December 2013 10: 59
        +1
        Quote: Liss.
        Their heroes are our heroes and the story is common.

        Let me disagree. Their "heroes" are most often only their "heroes" and our enemies.
        Quote: Liss.
        They took part in general historical events.

        Yes, there were events, there was participation. That's just the events were the same, but with the participation of garbage it turned out not quite healthy ...
        1. Liss.
          Liss. 10 December 2013 11: 08
          +1
          1. Ivan Kozhedub. Mykola Gogol.
          "Further and more" - laziness.

          2.When the East, the South-East of Ukraine suffered "with the participation" on the side of Russia?
          Do not bring Makhno, our Antonov is on him.
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  17. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 10 December 2013 11: 10
    +2
    If Yanukovych was not afraid to show the middle finger to the Europeans, then the conclusion is as follows - at least he does not hold money in Western banks. AND?
  18. gleb49
    gleb49 10 December 2013 11: 24
    +2
    In the article, all the fools from the kindergarten, and not the presidents of huge countries. Like, today we will deceive our partner, and tomorrow they will forget and will play in the sandbox again. It will not work with RUSSIA.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 37
      +2
      It is hoped that Goebbels propaganda methods can do everything from a gangster to make a peaceful demonstrator. Quite seriously. Rewrite history in a favorable light, etc. Do not forget about the traitors ...
  19. Black
    Black 10 December 2013 11: 24
    +6
    The author of the article sees the main culprit in the mess in the external "friends" of Ukraine. I think this is not entirely true. Vultures flock to the smell of the corpse of Ukrainian statehood. And they only try to finish off, but tear apart. The culprits are the elite, the oligarchy of its own spill. The events of recent weeks are the result of an internal political struggle for the possibility of further plunder of their own country.
    Why did Yanukovych behave like a wooden circle in an ice hole? And how can a circle behave? In the hole ....
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 40
      +1
      Ukraine is not comparable either with the West or with Russia, therefore in its "chaos" there will always be someone's hand, but not the Russian one, we are, in fact, one people, brothers.
  20. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 10 December 2013 12: 12
    +2
    Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are much more of them than Euro-Ukrainians.

    I want to believe that it is, and in the foreseeable future it will be as well.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 41
      +2
      Not only believe, faith must be supported by works, as Christ’s faith teaches.
  21. awg75
    awg75 10 December 2013 12: 44
    +3
    sooner or later, the policy of political confusion of Yanukovych will definitely bring him to the bunk anyway. this individual wants to eat chocolate in Russia and sit on the Christmas tree of the European Union. in the end, you have to be at least a little bit a man (at least try) to decide: either you are with Russia - then beat all this unfinished band from the age of 45, or you and pedoEurope - get the carrot, and industry and the old people will die out quickly.
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 10 December 2013 12: 58
    +1
    Politicians who try to sit on two chairs tend to end badly and it’s good if you just ruin your career and sometimes lose your head, this Yanukovych is now essentially useless to anyone, the West will now rely on one of the oppositionists whom time will tell Russia should also look for new partners in Ukraine, though, why did Yanukovych commit this political suicide here is the question, is he really so stupid?
  23. silver_roman
    silver_roman 10 December 2013 13: 10
    +2
    Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are much more of them than Euro-Ukrainians.


    This is a fact.

    This is their old dream - to create a zone of “controlled chaos” at the Russian borders, in other words, a “hot spot”

    It seems to me that by creating a "hot spot" in Ukraine, syshya helps (will) ultimately unite Russia and Ukraine ... they do not understand our mentality, roots, culture and history. It is impossible to destroy the age-old friendship (this is not the kind of "friendship" with which they are friends in the EU) with loot and a bunch of go * tov on the Maidan. They will hang themselves on their navel, they will not destroy us !!!

    I also liked the idea of ​​Western Ukraine:
    Galicia, by the way, will suffer much less, because there is practically no industry there, zapadentsy or work as migrant workers, either in agriculture or at rallies. True, subsidies from the East of Ukraine will cease, but you see, they are compensated with grants. After all, Euromaidan has so avenged Yanukovych for Vilnius!


    And so it is. I was in Lviv, and in Ivano-Frankivsk ... they are called almost European cities .... BAD !!! and I’ve not seen Europe there!
    But in terms of industry, everything is correct. Severe in the east ....
    It is a pity that the Russian Federation has recently begun to conduct propaganda. It is not right...
    Many people in Ukraine really think that the EU will be better. And the trick is that they don’t think at all, but only use the patterns in their head that they drove for the EU loot.
    1. cap-blood
      cap-blood 10 December 2013 23: 20
      +1
      As it seems to me, creating a "hot spot" in Ukraine, syshya helps (will) ultimately unite Russia and Ukraine ... they do not understand our mentality, roots, culture and history. You cannot destroy the age-old friendship (this is not the kind of "friendship" that people are friends with in the EU) with loot and a bunch of go * tov on the Maidan. They will hang themselves on their navel, they will not destroy us !!! [quote = silver_roman] [quote] Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are much more of them than Euro-Ukrainians. [/ Quote]

      This is a fact.

      [quote] This is their old dream - to create a zone of “controlled chaos” at the Russian borders, in other words, a “hot spot” [/ quote]

      Forgive me, but you expressed yourself somewhat naively: you know the saying "Ivan, who does not remember kinship", and so this is about the inhabitants of Ukraine. People have already been brainwashed so that some seemingly educated, thinking people believe in fairy tales that are sent to them by numerous media outlets. By the way, to date, these same media have entrenched employees - just people from the western regions. So they have been waging their own war, including the information war, for a long time, and in some ways they have already been very successful.
  24. poccinin
    poccinin 10 December 2013 13: 18
    +4
    maybe it’s time to start counter-operation for the separation of, for example, the state of TEXAS from the USA or the LAND OF BAVARIA FROM GERMANY, as well as bribe the people to create something "MAIDANA" for them and then shout that they violate human rights during the dispersal of the demonstration, do not be afraid of them, but you must react to events ... and then things can reach the civil in Ukraine. and this will inevitably drag RUSSIA into the war. Well, and there it is not far from the third world.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 47
      0
      But about this in more detail, a roadmap would make ...
  25. Makarov
    Makarov 10 December 2013 13: 33
    +1
    "Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are much more of them than Euro-Ukrainians" .... not a fact, and most likely the opposite ...
    1. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 48
      +1
      Life clears the brain well, it's time to return to reality.
  26. polly
    polly 10 December 2013 14: 10
    +4
    It’s only worth joining the EU, and everyone will be fine, as in Greece ...
  27. MG42
    MG42 10 December 2013 14: 17
    +1
    Quote: Author Victor Kamenev
    The latest rallies of the Party of Regions are held under the slogan: "Build Europe in Ukraine." In general, the correct slogan has finally come to their senses.

    Footage from these rallies and laughter and sin .. who is there and for what purpose >>
    1. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 14: 27
      0
      Yes, Vityok is an unauthorized kid!
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  28. Liss.
    Liss. 10 December 2013 15: 10
    +5
    Yes, Vityok is an unauthorized kid!
    He is not responsible for the bazaar.
    He was so frightened by Europe that it looks like there will be problems with the hiring of local "builders of Europe in Ukraine".
    Europe began to associate with many banderlogs ...
    Dream?
    ... Or maybe a "seconded" political strategist appeared in Yanyk's entourage?
    Ukraine became pregnant from Europe.
    Childbirth was prepared for 2015, exactly at the presidential election.
    Pennies were piling up, "midwives" trained "correct" and leisurely in European "maternity" centers, Volyn-Lviv "support groups" trained with chains and pipes.
    And then this "traveler" organized premature birth, at the stage of fetal maturation.
    Injection of Vilnius.
    As a result, instead of giving birth, we got an abortion.
    Woe for the "obstetricians" the way to the kichu, pennies are gone, the fittings were taken away from the lads ...
    In general, speaking the language of the guarantor ukrainets.konstitutions- "took on a show-off, having arranged kipesh not in the business."
    Can anyone now guarantee the victory of one of the three "Maidan heroes" in the 2015 elections?
    1. 123dv
      123dv 10 December 2013 19: 24
      0
      I laughed. Well done!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: Liss.
      Pennies were piling up, "midwives" trained "correct" and leisurely in European "maternity" centers, Volyn-Lviv "support groups" trained with chains and pipes.

      Fathers! The Charité doctors screwed up again! Either our Yulia will not be cured for a year and a half, or they missed a miscarriage! We'll have to contact the Kremlin!
  29. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 10 December 2013 15: 40
    +3
    Yes, what do you want from Janek? He shouted before the election about the Russian vector, about 2 official language. Akhmetov and Co., paid for everything. Those. all as expected to win the election. And how else should he have acted? The Party of Regions is the same contained on the money of the oligarchs, as in the rest of the rest. Then Janek began to pull the blanket over himself, to create his own family, i.e. Mafia, in Italian. Little by little put their people in key positions, build up assets, etc. etc. Note that over the years of his presidency, he did not have his own obscheukrainsky television channel or newspaper. Why do you think so? Obviously the gut is still thin. That Olympic calmness, which was demonstrated by the GDP, before Vilnius, says a lot, most likely he KNEW that there would be no signing, or rather the Azarov announced it the day before, but the GDP initially knew. The oligarchs are clearly for European integration, this is the only chance against the export to Ukraine of the current Russian political model, in which the oligarchy is deprived of complete and uncontrolled power. By the way, one of the questions asked

    T. Chornovolu, the truth is on the move, but I think it will be clear:

    About yak oligarch v you are moving? What if they were infected with dissatisfaction with the president’s speeches?

    Taras Chornovil: I can tell you about quietly, hto, look at me, not ready for such a rosary: ​​zrozumіlo, the whole group, close to SIM'ї. There vimalovutsya Oleksandr Yanukovych, Sergiy Kurchenko. Surely, the stench will stand on the president’s boats. Treason rozuma, scho hatred for them at the middle of the region, the main financial shares of the PR - just neymovirna. Nabagato Bіlsha, nizh before Tymoshenko. To that, first of all, I’ll be able to come to my senses at the time of realizing the script I voiced - the pink group of SIM'і. Zrozumіlo, stink to waste everything, make money by "looting". Tom Oleksandr Yanukovych and Sergiy Kurchenko will be kiddie all, for such a scenario is not seen.

    It’s even longer than the hit of the figure, which is somehow unobtrusive, the same as the position — the Firtash. Most of the activity is so much in charge of either in Russia or in Ukraine (because of the lack of noise, a summarized scheme). The shuttering of the largest part of the region’s business is negative. I’m not asking for impressions that I want to ask for before negotiations, because I don’t want to have a mother with him. Yogo business-empireya - tse taka is pretty bulbashka, like I can burst at any moment. Ті, hto mayuyat real inflow - Akhmetov, Taruta - for them, food is hard, stink in the fact that they’ve seen so much.

    If I need to translate.
    1. Liss.
      Liss. 10 December 2013 15: 47
      +2
      Shotgun -
      Shot "in the top ten!"
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    3. Victor Kamenev
      10 December 2013 16: 58
      +3
      Shoot well. I think the oligarchs are not united, I hope that there are still people among them. After all, they are people? On the other hand, European integration also deprives them of their power, and real property, of their management. Something will remain, but what are they in comparison with Western oligarchs, and even with the administrative resource of Brussels? Money does not decide everything in Europe. Our oligarchs will always run errands there, second grade, not everyone likes it. They will not be allowed into the best houses and closed clubs, and they know it.
      1. motorized rifle
        motorized rifle 10 December 2013 17: 40
        +2
        I absolutely agree, oligarchs cannot be homogeneous. They have a default agreement between themselves: -this is mine, and this is yours. Their solidarity is corporate, but after all, they are people and often with them, the trouble is not that the cow is dead, but that the neighbor is left alive. They are like fleas on a dog until it is dead to them well. And for fleas, a paradise is a toothless dog. If Eurointegration is not beneficial for them, then they will take advantage of the Janek’s arguments and will not wake up, but first they must knock down the Janek. Tactics can be different, the strategy will remain the same, to maintain power, or its main part, at any cost, and there according to circumstances.
        1. motorized rifle
          motorized rifle 10 December 2013 17: 44
          +1
          Perhaps I’ll add that to the best houses in Europe, they will not be allowed to pay for money, or rather, not only for money, but for a loyal anti-Russian service. Like there: This is with ... kin son, but this is our son ... kin.
  30. 222222
    222222 10 December 2013 17: 44
    +3
    Who is who...
    "US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland began a meeting with leaders of the Ukrainian opposition in the House of Trade Unions seized by supporters of European integration.
    The meeting began at 11.40 a.m. on 10 local time (12 Moscow time). Nuland arrived at the House of Trade Unions, accompanied by the American ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Payette, and before the start of the meeting, refused to communicate with the press, writes Ukrainian Truth.
    In addition to Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Vitali Klitschko and Oleg Tyagnibok, Petro Poroshenko and Yuriy Lutsenko are present at the meeting. "
    1. motorized rifle
      motorized rifle 10 December 2013 17: 47
      +2
      This is zhzhzhzhzhzhzh, not casual ...
  31. homosum20
    homosum20 10 December 2013 18: 55
    0
    All this bedlam in Kiev about the non-signing of the Euroassociation is garbage compared to what will happen when (if?) Yanukovych signs accession to the single customs union. And you have to sign - the logic "said" a "- you say" b "will definitely work. Then the scenarios will go better.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 19: 53
      +1
      Quote: homosum20
      And you have to sign

      I do not know! So far, having "consulted" with the previous presidents (I found with whom !!!) I promised that we would finalize the documents, and maybe in March, we will sign the association!
  32. demotivator
    demotivator 10 December 2013 19: 01
    +2
    It seems like a moment of truth has arrived. A little more, and Ukraine is lost for us. Therefore, today it makes no sense to fussyly poke money either to Yanukovych, or to anyone else in Ukraine. For decades, we did not have a coherent policy either towards Ukraine or against Belarus (we didn’t even unite with the Old Man! But they wanted, they even insisted on creating a union state! And there was so much trepidation about this !?) These do not want at all, they hinge in every way with their horn. Well, how do you attach them ???? After all, our oligarchic muzzles want, after all, not connections, but control over the Ukrainian gas transportation system and other nishtyaks, that’s the whole problem. So now we need to focus at least on the fact that they themselves are not democratized. And it’s not that when the turn comes, they will squeeze Russia out too.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 10 December 2013 19: 58
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      Well, how do you attach them ????

      Only if the CPU achieves a referendum for the vehicle! Proceeding from the fact that it is VERY reluctant to carry out, then REAL calculations show that the majority will be "FOR". But maybe Yanukovych will "help with counting" a little (just in case, if he really decided to jump off the EU) - there will be nowhere to go. Although in this case I do not exclude a new Maidan or "divorce" from the memory.
  33. asin
    asin 10 December 2013 19: 04
    -2
    I am not against Russia. But what will integration with Russia give us? Maybe life will improve, but not improve. You still have that bardel in Russia. As an example, the case of Serdyukov, someone else doubts that he will not sit down, I'm 100% sure. And the plane crash in Kazan, seven different departments are responsible for safety, as a result, no one is responsible. Etc., etc. Only the presence of natural resources keeps you afloat. We also have terrible chaos, and together with Russia this chaos will double. And Putin deeply does not care how we live here, he cannot restore order to himself, he only cares about imperial affairs, however, like the Americans. But European laws, except for "gay" ones, are very effective and their order is much better than ours and yours.
    1. 222222
      222222 10 December 2013 19: 53
      +4
      asin (1) UA Today, 19:04 New "But what will integration with Russia give us?"
      What will the association with Europe give us? ?
      No one is obliged to give us anything .. Neither Europe, nor Russia ..
      Europe, using a political device in the form of an "association of the countries of the former USSR", solves its growing economic problems: -on the markets for its products, -the export of labor ... and at the same time tries to weaken Russia, not realizing that Russia's problems will become the problems of Europe itself .. One explanation for the actions of Europe is to carry out the instructions of the Master to the detriment of themselves .. and will Europe, and Russia, and Ukraine be pulled in such a state? and do they need it?
      Ask yourself the question: "Why does each country have its own conditions and why are the conditions for the EU much better? Where are the conditions of association equal for each member? Or is it European democratic NEO_colonialism ..?"
  34. demotivator
    demotivator 10 December 2013 19: 06
    +2
    Natalia Mashnaya interviewed Vitali Klitschko. Here are a few lines from it.
    N.M. “Your assistant allowed me to ask you only three questions, so I will hurry to ask the first one,” “in your opinion, arrival in Kiev and speaking on Maidan with calls to speak out against Yanukovych and the Party of Regions - EU officials such as Lithuanian President Dali Gribskayte, the leader of the Polish party "Law and Justice" Yaroslav Kaczynski - is this not interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine? ”
    VC. - this is not interference in internal affairs, this is the help of friends, this is the help of friends who cannot remain indifferent and stay away when fraternal friendly European Ukraine wants to be taken somewhere past the place where Ukraine should be. It should be historically by its European definition.

    N.M. - then the second question, but the fact that the monument to Lenin was dropped today is not vandalism? Is vandalism a place in Europe?
    VC. - This is not vandalism, this is a revolutionary rush of the masses.

    N.M. - And if tomorrow in a revolutionary outburst the masses rush to set fire to Budinok with chimeras, is this not vandalism? And you do not bear any responsibility for this?
    (this is the last question, - Kovalchuk interrupts us)
    VC. “Yes, I already have to leave.” I will say that revolutions are always accompanied by acts of violence that are difficult to control. Here is your Yeltsin from tanks fired at the White House. I do not want this in Kiev. I think we will confine ourselves to a monument to Lenin.

    Goodbye.
  35. Stinger
    Stinger 10 December 2013 19: 11
    +2
    I want to be a pimp, but they offered to go to the panel. That's the whole turn.
  36. Lunaaron
    Lunaaron 10 December 2013 19: 22
    +1
    I recommend a playcast (musical postcard) to the topic.
    Words and music of Ukrainian bandurist Vasil Zhdankin.

    In the eyes of sadness, on the shoulders of the bag,
    On the other hand, we don’t have much ...
    Our dіvonki - in the Turkish mansions,
    our old people - gene, according to smithniks ...
    Generously give birth to our Bagati Territory,
    And zav'yazhesh snіp - Jewish viddai.
    Robin for nothing, p'm for stolen -
    The axis of such is our righteous life ...
    Loved my democracy
    How can I feed all that brother? ...

    http://www.playcast.ru/view/1600280/f3853cd5f77da0b67d11caef19b612f3008147fepl
  37. saag
    saag 10 December 2013 19: 43
    +1
    Bend, bend, another bend - "..." Ukraine "on Tuesday, December 10, a round table was held on the search for ways out of the political crisis in the country. As the Deutsche Welle correspondent reports, about 15 people took part in the meeting - representatives of parliament , the cabinet of ministers, the Kiev city administration. ”There was no opposition at the round table.

    Leonid Kravchuk spoke about the results of a meeting with Viktor Yanukovych held in closed session on the same day, which was also attended by two other ex-Presidents of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko and Leonid Kuchma.

    According to Kravchuk, Viktor Yanukovych assured the participants in the conversation that those detained during the actions on the Maidan would be released, but the investigating authorities would continue to consider their cases. Yanukovych, according to the information of the first president of Ukraine, said that he was ready to sit down at the negotiating table with representatives of the European Union. The association agreement, according to Yanukovych, may be signed in March. "
  38. Sax
    Sax 10 December 2013 20: 17
    -4
    I read the little article ... Mr. laden with ento is an obvious provocateur and a liar, not covered by anything.
    The whole article is built on false provocative fabrications. Neither evidence for you, nor references to serious analysis, nor anything. Chatter. And dirty.

    There is no time for adaptation to either the economy or the population of Ukraine by the agreement on Euroassociation, and no money is allocated, as in other similar cases, even with the same Baltic states. One billion dollars over 7 years is just a mockery,
    Lying, bro!

    Already in the short term in the South-East of Ukraine a social catastrophe is almost inevitable. She had in mind Putin when he said that "not everyone will be reached," Yanukovych was frightened of her, after all, he was from the Donbass. Therefore, by the way, the South-East of Ukraine is “silent”. Production has fallen so far by only 6%. This is bad, but not yet critical.
    Again half the truth. -6% is the result of the reign of Yanukovych, targeting the Russian markets and the result of the latest economic attacks of the Russian Federation on our exporters.

    the European Union itself is a semi-colony of the United States.
    This is a diagnosis - to the doctor. (see data on world GDP, living standards, industrial production, etc. For those who take this seriously, and not like all Kamenevs)

    In doing so, he is already politically helping Yanukovych, despite his “European choice,” and will help him further, based on Russia's strategic interests: she does not need a “hot spot” near her borders.
    Do not need a hot spot - do not meddle. We will figure it out ourselves. It smells of civil war from you.

    Russian-Ukrainians will agree with him, there are much more of them than Euro-Ukrainians.Again the author is lying! WHO YOU, DEAR, SAID IT? Al ORT whispered? Or maybe our Inter? Well, it's time to grow up, author.
  39. ed65b
    ed65b 10 December 2013 20: 59
    0
    No, my friends, I disagree with many about the exit from political and other formations, and the lessons of Lenin are my example. a government not burdened with "golden chains" can easily turn the history of a country. Refuse from certain unions and standards.
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  41. 222222
    222222 10 December 2013 23: 17
    +1
    Hu from Hu EU. .
    .... What a sophisticated diploma !!! ..

    1.BRUSSELS, Dec 10 - RIA Novosti, European Commissioner for Enlargement and Neighborhood Policy Stefan Füle called on the European Union to act strategically and more decisively in expanding the Eastern Partnership and reaffirmed its readiness to sign an Association Agreement with Ukraine. “We need to step up strategy and show determination. We have the right policy, the right means, and I am determined to continue working with Catherine Ashton and my colleagues to transform this part of Europe,” Füle said.
    2.Stefan Fule.
    "The assumptions that we have observed regarding the alleged cost of Ukrainian modernization are politically motivated and unfounded, just like the trade restrictions imposed by Russia. They are intended to dissuade the Ukrainian people from taking advantage of new opportunities."
    3. At today's plenary session of the EP in Strasbourg. "....
    Jacek Sariusz-Wolski said, in particular, that Ukraine "is a key issue for Europe." He added that it was clearly spelled out in the resolution for which they will vote on Thursday. "" ....
    .
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 11 December 2013 00: 14
      +2
      Quote: 222222
      Stefan Fule called on the European Union

      He said a lot of things !!!
      “I believe that Ukraine and the EU are closely connected - unprecedented in its depth, breadth and strength, and not only in the letter, but also in the spirit of this agreement, which perhaps costs a million times more than a simple stroke of the pen. I admire the love of the Ukrainian people for freedom and the maturity of its European spirit. They’re not looking for compensation from the European Union, but they are looking for a chance to live according to European values, ” said Fule.
      According to him, the EU is ready to provide Ukraine with financial assistance in implementing the association agreement. “We are ready to help and support Ukraine in its modernization process with the help of IMF loans, with macro-financial assistance and by activating the EU financial assistance program,” said Fule.
      "Also The EU is ready for a dialogue with Russia to explain that the agreement on Ukraine-EU association will not harm its economic interests, but there can be no tripartite negotiations, ” - said the politician.
      http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/240975
      XXXX
      Oh, how good! "They are not looking for compensation", yes, everything should be done at the expense of the Ukrainians themselves!
      And how is the EU ready for a dialogue with Russia ... but there can be no trilateral negotiations! "
      1. Sax
        Sax 11 December 2013 00: 50
        -1
        Shtoy, I cannot reconcile your personal reasoning with the words of Fule. He is about one thing, but you are talking about something ... Strange as that. fellow
  42. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 11 December 2013 04: 04
    +1
    I agree that there is no Ukrainian-Russian nationality (I don’t think Bender, then Poland), there is one people who were divided by force, and now they’re also littering (gas, etc.) IMHO
  43. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 07: 14
    0
    Quote: Sax
    Strange as that.

    Unclear? Well, this is how the neighbors come to you and say - here we have a chic kitchen, large, with a powerful hood, there are a lot of all kinds of cooks and you should use all these achievements, despite the fact that you have your own kitchen and according to the order of the neighbors, the door to that the kitchen should be done in the wall yourself, at your own expense, with third-party workers you can discuss the door-cutting project, but their participation is excluded
  44. Ols76
    Ols76 11 December 2013 08: 48
    0
    ...nice pic )
  45. Impich
    Impich 11 December 2013 13: 53
    0
    to disperse all these Maidan to Edren hair dryer and the sooner the better ...
  46. Ross
    Ross 11 December 2013 17: 03
    +1
    Quote: smile
    silver_roman
    All right. By the way. I was very annoyed by the frames of the private conversation between Comrade Yanukovych and Merkel at the Vilnius Summit - there, Yanukovych, explaining the reason for the POSTPONING signing of the agreement with the EU, knocked his fists and said - I’ve been struggling with strong Russia for three years now, they say, I’m not one from Europe helped ...
    It behaves like my cat, who will be friends with anyone who gets a good bite ... and will not be faithful to anyone (except me :)))). Yanukovych, unlike my cat, is not loyal to anyone ... in the end, Ukraine has the worst of it ... and in general, what is allowed to the cat somehow did not bother the head of state ... such sad zoological associations .. ..

    An excellent comment on this post would be an article; http://warfiles.ru/show-44159-vechera-na-hu.html
    Here is a brief quote that speaks for itself: Everyone knows this joke: “One Ukrainian is the master, two Ukrainians are the partisan detachment, three Ukrainians are the partisan detachment with a traitor.” Good joke. Funny Until you realize how true.

    Ukrainian independence is based and developed its own political school, the main subject of which is kidding and betrayal as the basis of sovereignty. Ukraine keeps on a kidka. She lives for them. Independence, on the other hand, is an instrument of avoiding responsibility for the next kiddock - for "technical" gas intakes, for perpetual non-payments, for everything.

    “When you always betray all the multi-vector, it’s better not to think at all”
    At the very beginning of the Ukrainian project, a cunning thought was written on many local foreheads: “we will be fed and watered for the fact that we will betray her.” Ukraine itself began as a project to monetize betrayal. At the same time, Ukraine is throwing not only Russia, it is throwing everyone. The difference is that under Viktor Andreevich they threw Russia more often, and under Viktor Fedorovich they threw everyone in a row. This is called "multi-pronged politics."
  47. Ols76
    Ols76 12 December 2013 08: 36
    0
    European integration
  48. zbidnev
    zbidnev 12 December 2013 22: 37
    0
    Tired of Yanukovych people, cut short to the extreme - as a result of the Maidan. Moreover, many did not come to him from over Europe, and the opposition quickly headed. You are becoming more and more convinced that we are individually individuals, and if you put together a flock of sheep. Recently I watched as some kind of European or American was distributing bread to special forces. It became so disgusting - I felt like a Papuan whom beads give for their native land.