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About the "dishonest man", Russia and the fate of the Roman Empire

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Valentin Katasonov believes that Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is distorting the situation in the sphere of labor resources ...December 6 Russian folk line published a material entitled "Only a dishonest person says that we can do without the influx of labor resources." It contains excerpts from an interview with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, dedicated to the outcome of the government in the outgoing year. Excerpts relate to the topic of labor migrants in the Russian economy. Since the statements of the Prime Minister seriously distort the real situation in the sphere of labor relations in our country, I have to make my comments.



Scales of unused labor resources: official statistics. Here is the key phrase of the Prime Minister: “Only a dishonest person says that we can do without an additional influx of labor resources now. Russia is too big, and we need additional labor resources ". Words are more than strange. Given that there is high unemployment in our country, and the government periodically declares the need to create new jobs.

What is the scale of unemployment in our country? Even among our departments there is no unanimous opinion and uniform assessments on this score. The Federal Labor and Employment Service provides unemployment statistics based on the number of applications from the unemployed to the territorial offices of the Federal Service. Over the past decade, data from the Federal Service (which is published on a monthly basis) has ranged from 1 to 2 million. Obviously, these are very low numbers, because applications for unemployment benefits and job search are not all unemployed.

Rosstat compiles its statistics, which is based on periodic surveys (unemployed are those who say in their answers that they do not have a job, but are actively looking for it). Over the past decade, Rosstat’s unemployment rates have ranged from 5 to 6 million. We take into account that the number of employees in our country is at the level of approximately 70 million people. Consequently, the average unemployment rate in the last decade was about 7%. True, Rosstat reports that in 2012, the unemployment rate dropped to 5,5%. However, this is also a lot. And besides, this is "the average temperature of the hospital." In several regions, unemployment is below average (for example, in the Moscow Region - 2,9%, Leningrad Region - 3,2%). But in some regions its level is extremely high. I will name only those regions in which it is higher than 10%: Ingushetia - 47,7; Chechnya - 29,8; Tyva - 18,4; Kalmykia - 13,1; Dagestan - 11,7; Altai - 11,6; Trans-Baikal Territory - 10,6.

It is not difficult to notice that the prohibitively high level of unemployment in the national republics. This is no longer just an economic problem of “incomplete use of labor resources”, but a social and political problem, and a very explosive one, especially when it is superimposed on the problems of national relations.

Particularly acute is the problem of unemployment in the so-called "monocities", the number of which in Russia is 333 (every third city). And youth unemployment! In the country, according to Rosstat, on average among youth at the age of 15-24, the unemployment rate last year was 16,8%. Among urban youth - 14,0%; among rural - 23,5%. The unemployment rate among youth in the average age group 15-24 years, compared with the unemployment rate of the adult population 30-49 years, is 3,2 times (among the urban population - 3,5 times, the rural population - 2,5 times). It is well known that employers do not like to employ young people without experience. The thesis that youth unemployment deprives the country of the future does not require special proof.

On the real scale of unemployment in Russia. I would like to draw attention to the fact that even Rosstat understates the real scale of unemployment. In particular, there is the so-called hidden unemployment. For example, people with part-time work (most often this is an involuntary part-time) are no longer considered unemployed. We have a disproportionately high level of youth who go to universities after school. So, in 2010 on 1000, the number of students in Russia was 61. For comparison: in Switzerland - 31; The Netherlands - 38; Austria - 37; Japan - 31. The stay of young people in universities (unfortunately, it is to stay, not to study; I know it firsthand as a teacher) only delays the moment when a young man joins the army of the unemployed. But Rosstat helps improve the employment picture. And our bureaucratic apparatus! At all levels of government today there are about 2,5 million officials. At least half of them pretend to be working. Imitation of labor activity takes place.

In 2011, in Russia, unemployment was measured according to the methods of a well-known sociological company. Gallup (measurements were simultaneously carried out in dozens of other countries). This measurement showed that in our country unemployment is much more than even the one reported by Rosstat. The Gallup method takes into account as unemployed even those who work, but work partially and would like to have a more complete load. So, real unemployment, according to Gallup, in Russia in 2011 was higher than 20%. Among women, it was rated at 22%, among men - at 19%. It turns out that real unemployment in Russia is higher than Rosstat's 3-4 times. Calculations of real unemployment were carried out in many other countries. By the way, its level in Russia is higher than in countries such as Finland, the Netherlands, Denmark, Israel, Belgium, Slovakia and Sweden. But there are a number of countries in which real unemployment is higher than in Russia. But we must bear in mind the absolute scale of the army of the unemployed. Even according to Rosstat, this is 5-7 million. In absolute terms, the officially declared number of unemployed in Russia is the largest among all countries that maintain official statistics on employment and unemployment. With the exception of the United States, but as you know, in the United States, the total population is more than two times the population of Russia.

It is surprising that the prime minister, in fact, bypassed the problem of unemployment in our country, which today directly or indirectly affects not even millions but tens of millions of Russian citizens. True, a little earlier (in the article “Time for simple solutions”), he put forward one “recipe” for employing our citizens: namely, to increase their “mobility”. Those. our citizens were asked to become internal migrants. Either wander around the country alone, or with the whole family. The concept of “home” in the context of building “wild capitalism” becomes superfluous and even harmful.

Oh there called "dirty work". Let me give you another quote from the reasoning of our Prime Minister: “But we need both those who build and those who do less skilled labor. Look: our unemployment is low, but it does not grow due to the fact that a large number of people come to work in places that our people are not very willing to go to - work in housing and communal services, janitors to work or in construction . Unemployment is not growing simply because our people are not ready to do it and do not want. ”

The thesis of the Prime Minister that because of the arrival of migrant workers, unemployment is not growing, it is very strange. To begin with, I want to draw attention to the fact that, according to the Prime Minister, the citizens of Russia do not want to engage in certain types of labor activity. This is a very serious question that should concern the Prime Minister and other officials of our government. Some types of work are called “dirty”, that's exactly what our fellow citizens are avoiding. Let's figure it out. In fact, it is not “dirty”, but dangerous types of labor. The situation in many industries today is terrifying. And this is not a secret. Referring to the data of Rosstat. Here are the relative indicators of the number of employees (in relation to the total number of people employed in industry, construction, transport and communications) who work in adverse conditions (at the end of 2012,%):

1) Engaged in conditions that do not meet hygienic standards of working conditions - 31,8%. Among them: working under the influence of increased noise, ultrasound, infrasound - 17,7%; working under the influence of increased vibration level - 5,0%; working in conditions of high dust content in the air of the working area - 5,3%; working in conditions of increased gas pollution of the working environment air - 5,1%;

2) Engaged in hard work - 13,0%;

3) Working on equipment that does not meet the requirements of occupational safety - 0,5%;

4) Engaged in work related to increased labor intensity - 9,7%.

It turns out that, in total, more than half of the workers employed in the real sector of the economy (industry, construction, transport and communications) have to risk their health and even life. Often we are talking about the threat to life not only of the workers themselves, but also of other people. For example, bus drivers can be attributed to the category of workers associated with increased intensity of the labor process. Their over-exertion often ends in car accidents and the death of passengers, passers-by and pedestrians. Why does the Prime Minister’s report say nothing about what measures have been taken to reequip the production facilities in order to improve working conditions, how many enterprises were fined or closed for gross violations of the standards of working conditions?

However, the question is rhetorical. It is not said because nothing has been done. Rosstat also has data on this score, but I don’t want to overload the reader with numbers. Instead of improving working conditions, the authorities prefer to use live “robots” who are ready to work in any conditions.

Russian capitalism as a form of slavery. Our citizens are deprived of the opportunity to work because they do not receive adequate remuneration for their work. And sometimes they don't get any at all. Overdue wage arrears, according to Rosstat, as of 1 in November 2013 amounted to exactly 3 billion rubles. Considering that the total number of people employed in Russia is 71,5 million, the average per employee is 43 rubles. But this is "the average temperature in the hospital." If the prime minister, ministers, officials of different ranks pay wages without delay, in some enterprises wages are not paid for many months, and arrears per employee (even at relatively low wages) amount to hundreds of thousands of rubles.

It's no secret that our citizens are ready to work even for very modest salaries. Even in the so-called "dirty" industries. But their employers will never hire. Because it is easier not to pay or underpay an immigrant, especially an illegal immigrant, who is deprived of all rights. In Moscow, a Russian person cannot become a janitor, because such an employee will have to pay 100% of salary, the amount of which is set by the city authorities. And only a part can be paid to an immigrant. The rest is spreading in the pockets of thieving officials. Therefore, the appeals of the authorities to fight corruption, while maintaining the current policy of using labor immigrants, turns into an overt farce. And attracting immigrants increases unemployment among the local population (contrary to Medvedev’s statement, which is contained in the above quoted quote).

The topic of labor resources, employment and labor migrants, addressed in the responses of the Prime Minister is very broad and multi-faceted. I touched on only some socio-economic aspects, leaving behind the scenes cultural, religious, criminogenic, geopolitical and other aspects. I will sum up my reasoning. The system of labor relations, which the Prime Minister justifies in his interview report, is aimed at serving the interests of “wild” Russian capitalism, which needs the cheapest and even slavish labor. In fact, we are dealing with a symbiosis of capitalism and slightly camouflaged slavery. Accordingly, the slave labor system eliminates the need for and the possibility of any innovations that our Prime Minister likes to talk about.

At one time, slave labor in the Roman Empire led to the spiritual, moral, and even physical disintegration of free citizens - first the aristocracy, and then the common people (plebs). And then to the death of the empire itself. Continuing to attract labor migrants can lead to the same tragic consequences for our country.
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  1. makarov
    makarov 10 December 2013 08: 01 New
    +4
    Maybe Dima’s little thinker has flung out ?? And unfortunately, GDP does not have the necessary hammer at hand to help the sufferer?
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 10 December 2013 08: 11 New
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      It's not about the influx of labor resources, but about the replacement of the population - the Russians are drafted into the army and other structures and die in a hidden war, migrants come, start a second family here and "Moskvabad" ...
      December 6 Medvedev showed off in all black - very many on the eve got into this process.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 10 December 2013 09: 05 New
        +3
        Therefore, you must do as the Americans do, serve Gaster in the Russian army, and better fight, and then take citizenship and live. And it’s better not to let them in.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 10 December 2013 10: 02 New
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          Quote: Max_Bauder
          Therefore, we must do as the Americans, serve Gaster in the Russian army,

          Even better, as in the Emirates. Live, work, but you will never become a citizen. And for any flight, deportation. and be sure to revoke citizenship at birth. A child born only from a citizen of the Russian Federation can become a citizen.
          1. evgenm55
            evgenm55 10 December 2013 14: 12 New
            +3
            I completely agree with this.
            1. Simon
              Simon 10 December 2013 21: 29 New
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              I support this too. yes
        2. alebor
          alebor 10 December 2013 10: 21 New
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          Quote: Max_Bauder
          Therefore, you need to do as the Americans do, serve Gaster in the Russian army, and better fight, and then take citizenship and live

          That is exactly what happened in the late Roman Empire. At first, German troops began to be recruited into the army, then they became the most influential force in the empire and, in the end, destroyed it.
          1. Max_Bauder
            Max_Bauder 10 December 2013 15: 50 New
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            I know, but look at Britain! for many years she has been using the power of Hindus and Gurkhas of Nepalese and nothing! colonized many countries, still lives at their expense (there is nothing in the British Isle, resources to sell). You just need to use them (strangers) correctly, as they are, the Russian commands, and Gaster shoots. =)
            1. Navy7981
              Navy7981 10 December 2013 23: 38 New
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              "the Russian is in command, and Gaster shoots" in the back ...
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        4. Maks111
          Maks111 10 December 2013 18: 40 New
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          Therefore, you must do as the Americans do, serve Gaster in the Russian army, and better fight, and then take citizenship and live. And it’s better not to let them
          Then the locals will forget how to fight.
        5. Simon
          Simon 10 December 2013 21: 28 New
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          What is most interesting, after receiving citizenship Gaster, they transport to Russia their entire family, up to the nth generation, or start a second family, because the documents do not indicate that he is married and has a bunch of children.
      2. GDP
        GDP 10 December 2013 11: 36 New
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        It seems to me that the influx of migrants is primarily beneficial to businessmen and other bourgeoisie. This allows you to greatly lower wages, to get higher profits. The consequence is a fall in wages and an increase in unemployment among the indigenous population. The state as a whole and the capitalists benefit from this, the indigenous population on the contrary ...
        For example, the solvency level of our population is about 60000 rubles per month on average in the country, but real wages are many times lower. I think it is somewhere around 15 000. Conclusion - money does not reach the population or statistics are too high, or the strongest class stratification of society.
      3. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 12 December 2013 11: 18 New
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        I always thought the Customs Union was created specifically for the citizens of these countries, only they have an advantage in jobs, the Premier didn’t say anything like that, but with what excitement he muttered about emigrants, and why he defends them so actively, It’s just interesting what’s there the experts wrote and presented, We are constantly fed with fables that our legislation is not inferior to the European one, article 20, the UN about which everyone insists according to his firm professional opinion, suckers and not lawyers wrote, This is of course a controversial statement, but it was agreed very much it turned out that what happened was convenient for many, As a lawyer it can be understood that the adoption of this article will require a lot of revision in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation in other codes that affect our lives, I personally am offended by one, excuse me, the problem is that the head of the executive branch said almost nothing about those problems that are very worrying and affect our lives, How is it possible that we have no problems or cannot be affected because they affect the image very badly, And I agree with the majority of the population of the neighboring country, Not the European Union they are attracted not precisely by putting things in order and really this legislation as there, No matter how the spears about choosing a country break, they want the rule of law before which everyone is equal and there are no others who are more important
    2. Canep
      Canep 10 December 2013 08: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: makarov
      Maybe Dima’s little thinker was floundering?

      He has an iPhone as a thinker. Dimon frankly does not cope with economic management, I think he is preparing a replacement. And about migrant workers, in Russia there are huge unused labor reserves in villages, especially among young people.
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 10 December 2013 08: 20 New
        +9
        Quote: Canep
        He has an iPhone as a thinker.

        IPhones, they’re usually smarter.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 10 December 2013 08: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Garrin
          IPhones, they’re usually smarter.

          They have a higher quality of external management)).
        2. True
          True 10 December 2013 09: 43 New
          +5
          Yes, he is not more stupid than us. It seems even smarter. Clearly, Dima is a lightning rod. When things go wrong, he begins to flog nonsense, sometimes even absurd. That's when it will be removed, everything is really bad.
          1. Yarik
            Yarik 10 December 2013 18: 57 New
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            Yes, he is not more stupid than us. It seems even smarter. Clearly, Dima is a lightning rod. When things go wrong, he begins to flog nonsense, sometimes even absurd.



            Absolutely rightly said. And then from Vova saint many users of the resource sculpt. In vain.
        3. ele1285
          ele1285 10 December 2013 14: 15 New
          +2
          Nedimon thinks something like this: “I changed the time zones, canceled the transition to winter time, there will be no mobile slavery in the country. What other nonsense would you think of?
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 10 December 2013 08: 42 New
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        Quote: Canep
        , in Russia in villages huge unused labor reserves

        Sergey, what are the reserves in the villages? The village is dying. I work with the former collective farms of the district. Central estates are still warm, and the villages in the district are almost extinct. Reserves in our skewed economy, in the extremely bloated services sector, in the exorbitant amount of commercial universities, etc.
        And according to the article, Valentin Yurievich is absolutely right. You cannot argue with his statement alone.
        A tendency to increase wage arrears is alarming. August 2012–2 billion rubles, August 2013–2,5 billion rubles, November 2013–3 billion rubles.
        This means that the economy does not have "gut", as some comrades shout, fans of the site "made by us".
        1. Canep
          Canep 10 December 2013 08: 50 New
          +8
          My cousin from a village where there is no more work goes to work in Moscow, and his wife is sitting at home. And he is not alone, but how many such villages throughout the country.
          1. AVV
            AVV 10 December 2013 10: 57 New
            +6
            It is necessary to create new industries on the ground, and pay good money, and not to store state money in American banks !!! Thus, we credit Americans, and deprive our citizens of the opportunity to work !!!
          2. Mature naturalist
            Mature naturalist 10 December 2013 23: 12 New
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            Quote: Canep
            goes to work in Moscow

            Was last week in Cheboksary. So the people and from there to Moscow go to work, and this is almost 700 km ...
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        2. True
          True 10 December 2013 09: 58 New
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          Quote: baltika-18
          .Reserves in our skewed economy, in the extremely inflated sphere of services, in the exorbitant amount of commercial universities, etc.
          Look for reserves in offices. Paul camps sellers. Yes, what is there, more. They do not produce anything, they only resell each other.
      3. Kolya
        Kolya 10 December 2013 10: 22 New
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        I understand that the GDP keeps its masculine word in front of Dimon, keeping it in office. Well, it’s not to the detriment of the whole country to do this, he must also keep his word to the people. Or does he think that the word given to Dimon is more important ???
        1. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 10 December 2013 23: 14 New
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          Quote: Kohl
          Well, it’s not to the detriment of the whole country to do this

          Do you think Dimon does harm?
          It seems to me that there is no benefit from him, but there is no harm either, because he is a nominal figure ...
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      4. alone
        alone 10 December 2013 19: 09 New
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        Quote: Canep
        He has an iPhone as a thinker. Dimon frankly does not cope with economic management, I think he is preparing a replacement.


        As for the replacement, I doubt it. But the fact that DAM is an economist and manager of the economy, I hear the first time. I don’t manage anything at all. There is only one manager in the country, and the rest are only executors. In all of the former USSR, this is a fact.
    3. Cthulhu
      Cthulhu 10 December 2013 08: 23 New
      +1
      There’s nothing to junk about.
    4. Vitlek
      Vitlek 10 December 2013 08: 54 New
      +4
      And GDP does not know who his receiver is - the prime minister? We say the party - we mean Lenin
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 10 December 2013 09: 07 New
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      The author well stated everything correctly, the situation is deplorable, the situation is similar in our country, the salaries are low, and they do not pay on time, okay, there are people in the villages who live poorly. there are still Gasters, all of us are unemployed because of them, I don’t understand them, if you have a mess in your country, solve it, and don’t go in a foreign land, I agree that the author about Rome said that such a society would come to collapse, or rather, the people would live but not the system .
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    7. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 10 December 2013 09: 26 New
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      Quote: makarov
      Maybe Dima’s little thinker has flung out ??



      why Dima? not Vali?
      if Dima says, then he says that they CARRY him with a report on the state of affairs! and there GUYS will not substitute their pardon (salary and good place) they give something for which they don’t put it on their necks !!!
      And here is the data from the ceiling!

      Valya, though a doctor and professor and chairman = but I want HIGHER ??? YES! but because = I write so that they REMEMBERED and CALLED!
    8. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 10 December 2013 10: 17 New
      +5
      Medvedev, by definition, cannot work either as prime minister or as president. He does not have the necessary knowledge and life experience for this.
      And as the experience of his finding in the main state posts of Russia showed, Medvedev does not know how to gain this experience and life wisdom. And this is perhaps the most important thing.
      Until now, not a matured child, fond of iPhones and other electronic toys.
      The faster Medvedev is removed from public office, the better it will be for the people and Russia. The question is, who will remove it? After all, we have the same tandem in power.
      1. Normal
        Normal 10 December 2013 13: 33 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Medvedev, by definition, cannot work either as prime minister or as president. He does not have the necessary knowledge and life experience for this.
        And as the experience of his finding in the main state posts of Russia showed, Medvedev does not know how to gain this experience and life wisdom. And this is perhaps the most important thing.


        That's right !! This is his main quality! That’s why Putin keeps it to himself. Any other bureaucrat who is capable of at least something will be, if not a threat to Putin, then not a profitable background in which the President immediately loses its luster. For this reason, DAM remains the prime minister and, possibly, will be the successor to which Putin will still be behind.
    9. avt
      avt 10 December 2013 10: 34 New
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      Quote: makarov
      Maybe Dima’s little thinker has flung out ??

      How can something go wrong? ,, “Only a dishonest person says that we can do without an additional influx of labor resources. Russia is too big, and we need additional labor resources "" ----- Here we need to quote one more quote from him when he blurted out at a previous meeting with journalists - "it's good that you stopped me, otherwise I can talk for a long time" and end the character discussion.
    10. Heccrbq.3
      Heccrbq.3 10 December 2013 10: 46 New
      +2
      Did he have a thinker? Damaged dwarf.
    11. evgenm55
      evgenm55 10 December 2013 14: 10 New
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      And he had it? He didn’t steer the state — not play an iPhone. Yes, plus cash gags from the bourgeoisie. And I doubt that the president is out of touch. They are simply GODs.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 10 December 2013 21: 16 New
        +1
        Guys ....
        what vain to rattle daggers ????
        From time immemorial in Russia it was considered - if you are ready to shed blood for Russia, for your Mother Motherland - then you are a person. Boyarin, in those terms. Son of the boyar. Yes, even -Smerd -... Blood shed for the Motherland-you-Man.
        Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Pashtuns (very few), Kypchaks, ..... they are all ready to shed blood .... do not believe it - ask them.
        They will gladly go to serve in the Russian Army. They will go to serve as the same rank and file that our INTELLECTUALS will not want to go.
        This is not a rebuke to our children. Tank BIATHLON quite seriously presented himself at the world game of fights. Here, who does not enter the situation, it can be a cool hit.
        Russia - its fighters - have nowhere to go !!!
        One situevina ... as if a lot of good, potential fighters .... to harness it to Russia.
        Not in colonial affairs .... not in slave attempts ....
        In Russia, initially, any person born - FREE - was considered.
        Free - it just means - ready to defend their homeland.
        The third thing is that a mother, a father, a man himself, could MYSELF sell HIMSELF into slavery - military slavery, which was called CRAFT in Russia.
        And even then, he did not sell himself - one thing. He sold himself - another.
        Institute of Purchasing .... you think it is very different from lending. Now.
        .....
        It is time.
        It's time.
        Think of Russia as a single geographical concept ...!
        But not like ...
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 10 December 2013 22: 57 New
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          Quote: Igarr
          Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Pashtuns (very few), Kypchaks, ..... they are all ready to shed blood .... do not believe it - ask them.

          Tin! We ask of course, just saying does not mean doing.
    12. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 12 December 2013 09: 40 New
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      Hello everyone, Artists say our life is a theater, In general, our country is an absurd theater, Now is a century of information, And any resident of our country, if desired, can learn a lot and compare, And the comparison is often not in our favor, Just examples for comparison, Remember the rush of the first persons by pharmacies, Now we can clearly say that this is just an empty and very unpleasant memory for those in power, Near Europe there was no running around with journalists, Why, The answer is simple, The simple owner of a small private pharmacy explained to our journalists, All medical products post are trusted companies and they are responsible for this, but it’s very simple, State structures simply by law and by court will simply cease functioning of such companies on the market, fines alone and damages for the victims will completely drown such owners, We saw several high-profile scams that were by ear, Now we are witnessing the latest acts of a scam with breast prostheses, the company that gave the certificate has been destroyed by huge fines and compensation for the victims has now taken over the shareholders, I'm not talking about those who did it all before it’s false to be so clear, And now with us, the Chief Anti-Corruption Fighter has cut the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation so much that we observe absurdity at the highest level, I’m talking about the MO case, I’m just shocked by how they try to make one specific person guilty, I don’t see a single movement horizontally and there is a lot of interesting things, After what was at the meeting on shipbuilding and ship repair in Vladik, our huge, not very agile, system that did not have specific executors and clearly defined tasks and funding was shown in all its glory. Each minister There is a real office that owns and manages finances, It is it that dictates and directs, But a very important decision happened there. The construction manager demanded a document signed by Mr. MEDVEDEV and not lower than rank, then Putin was surprised that it’s just that the minister’s decree doesn’t suit you, It turned out no , The president’s reaction surprised me that he was not the prime minister and doesn’t know the kitchen, Rogozin explained that several ministries are building at once, each ministry has its own facilities for which they are responsible In reality, financial flows go there first of all, it’s interesting, Vice-Premiers don’t have their own budget to solve problems, They bring claims together, agree on them, look for a solution that needs to be agreed upon, and only then they get the decision of the Prime Minister or President, Grogozin constantly gave such comments we agree for a very long time, then we agree for a long time on the found solution of time, we lose a lot, And to believe that Mr. Prime Minister will say something amazing to you is the height of insanity, He told you to work as prime minister for you, His famous presidential reforms affecting everyone except irritation do not cause anything; renaming the Ministry of Internal Affairs; optimization of time zones; cleaning of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation; I don’t know yet, but these are well-known,
  2. Valery Neonov
    10 December 2013 08: 09 New
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    hi Dmitry Medvedev- Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation since May 2012, Chairman of the United Russia party. Third President of the Russian Federation (May 2008 to May 2012). Prior to that - First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation (2005-2008), Chairman of the Board of Directors of OAO Gazprom (2000-2001, 2002-2008), former head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, curator of the Council for the Implementation of National Projects. Acting State Counselor of the Russian Federation of the first class, member of the Presidium of the Coordination Council of the Russian Union of Lawyers. Candidate of Law, Honorary Doctor of Law, Faculty of Law, St. Petersburg State University.
    It seems the smartest there must be a person, BUT, all his "reforms", "innovations" in various spheres suggest that he is working to please the obvious enemies of Russia; what are the "reforms" in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, science, education, housing and communal services, now the refusal to introduce visas for labor migrants ... it seems that the LADY has one goal - to achieve a popular revolt.
    recourse
    If anyone has a desire to see the "career" growth of this figure : http: //lenta.ru/lib/14160889/full.htm entertainingly tell you ... belay
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 10 December 2013 09: 40 New
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      Quote: Valery Neonov
      It seems the smartest person should be


      from what pontalyku? usual! were others better? in this place "UM" from subordinates in direct dependence! that's what they think with their THINK, that's what DIMA will give out on the mountain, without having time to think how it will end!

      A position in which a lot does not depend on the person holding this position.
    3. Normal
      Normal 10 December 2013 13: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      . the feeling that DAM has one goal is to achieve popular rebellion.

      No, DAM has the function of shit removal and black background in contrast to which GDP shines.
  3. Garrin
    Garrin 10 December 2013 08: 41 New
    12
    Our prime minister, either completely does not own the situation, or a hypocrite and a scoundrel. Both alignments are unacceptable for such a position.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 10 December 2013 12: 14 New
      +3
      And many in our government own the situation? Lavrov, Shoigu and maybe some more, judging by the situation in the country. Only personal and personal responsibility to the people for their promises with the inevitability of punishment for failure to fulfill can give at least some result. after a week of training with a team of image makers, the plumber Kuzmich can do it with a smart look. So the plumber is responsible for his work, otherwise they can get a physiognomy. But I talked to Nedimon, played, ate and slept. ALL. And there is no demand. IMHO
  4. VADEL
    VADEL 10 December 2013 08: 55 New
    +4
    He does not even have to bend over the roof.
  5. artifox
    artifox 10 December 2013 09: 01 New
    +7
    Medvedev has already shown what he is worth. It is not in vain that there is a "demedvedization" of the country - i.e. canceling most of the decisions that were made by him as president. It is a pity that it is slow, but here it is also clear - the struggle of clans. Let's wait. Although the "waiting room" is tired ...

    And there is a problem with labor migrants - here I absolutely agree with the author. And the fact that it is impossible to get a job as a janitor for our compatriot I know firsthand. In my old age, my mother-in-law got a job as a janitor next to the house, after two months they were allegedly "cut down" on the reorganization (and not only her) and recruited a bunch of guest workers. They do not want to keep Russians at work - this has to be paid in full ...
  6. complete zero
    complete zero 10 December 2013 09: 02 New
    +3
    This is a serious problem (migration-employment) to one degree or another it is a matter of National Security and SURVIVAL OF RUSSIA, and paradoxically, the trouble is not that Gastrobayers are in Moscow, it’s bad that they are in the provinces, in the villages (where the historical roots of Russia are), in many ways we are to blame ourselves (Russians), the desire to Work, many do not have moaning about the "small salary" of an adult should not be decisive (this reminds of "couch Vasisuali Lokhankin" talking about the role of the intelligentsia)))) - you have to find a second job (my example) no one will put their family on their feet for us, but in general Russia (pathos damn it, but as best I can)
  7. deman73
    deman73 10 December 2013 09: 22 New
    +4
    Our dimon generally has no brains with tight brains, but there’s only one word in the head - only the whole country suffers from this wretched
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 10 December 2013 10: 01 New
    +4
    It seems that the modern racial government has set itself the goal of precisely exterminating the country, I do not understand why and why, it would seem that you are prime minister, the widest opportunities for modernization and management, most humble, excuse me, what a sin to conceal, the most submissive as a flock of sheep population Eat resources at least in one place, a huge territory, well, it's like + and -, it’s like, the country doesn’t seem to be at war with anyone, it would seem that you manage, solve peaceful problems, but there is no Putin and the iPhone man doing everything exactly the opposite, find sore spots and aggravate them even more, after which they move on to the next, plus hovering in the clouds and terrible illusions about their abilities, it is clear that "not according to Senka the cap", in theory, all these shortcomings of the current government should have been leveled by democratic institutions, and the Putin-Medvedev team was supposed to be driven out of power by a filthy broom, but instead we got a synthesis of sovietism + the worst qualities of liberal democracy. A deity called the 1993 constitution ode is the clearest example of this.
  9. George
    George 10 December 2013 10: 05 New
    +4
    Hello all.
    As an option
  10. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 10 December 2013 10: 19 New
    +6
    Lies are hidden or explicit, unfortunately a constant companion in the work of our government. There is no need to do complicated research in order to understand that after Gaidar's "shock therapy" thousands of enterprises stopped and their workers were thrown into the streets. A lot of new jobs created? A scanty amount (mainly in trade). Question to Medvedev: where did millions of able-bodied people go?
    Comments superiors gentlemen rulers!
  11. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 10 December 2013 10: 21 New
    +3
    At one time, slave labor in the Roman Empire led to the spiritual, moral, and even physical disintegration of free citizens - first the aristocracy, and then the common people (plebs). And then to the death of the empire itself. Continuing to attract labor migrants can lead to the same tragic consequences for our country.


    With all due respect to the author, such parallels personally cause me bewilderment and violent rejection.
    Well, we don't have "aristocracy" and "plebs" !!! Why impose this in the public mind ???
    There are politicians, bankers, businessmen, workers, alcoholics, toilers, artists, lumpen ...
    Each person is individual, you cannot find two identical bankers, nor two turners either.
    And among them all, there are people who are responsible for their work and the fate of their homeland and those who have not yet grown up to the realization of the essence of their relationship with the country that has grown them.
    It seems to me that the key to success lies in the cultivation of the habit in all of us "First to think about the Motherland, and then about yourself!"
    I agree, this is difficult, but the country's goals are appropriate.
    Therefore, the scale of dreams and tasks must correspond to the scale of citizens.
    Here we have to work with citizens - it will pay off handsomely.

    And here it is:
    "First to think about the Motherland, and then - about yourself!"


    beneficial, by and large, not only to everyone, but to everyone individually.
    Here and now.
    1. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 10 December 2013 11: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Pomidorov
      beneficial, by and large, not only to everyone, but to everyone individually.
      Here and now.

      Well said.
  12. zlyden2013
    zlyden2013 10 December 2013 12: 01 New
    +1
    when this clown will be removed. Or is this commute beneficial?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 December 2013 13: 27 New
      -4
      Quote: zlyden2013
      when this clown will be removed. Or is it beneficial to someone?

      Why they do not like Medvedev - he is a representative of the Western liberals. Represents the interests of the oligarchs. He defends their interests. Why they can’t remove him, because behind him is a gang of oligarchs.

      Putin, the representative of the siloviki-statesmen, has little power to remove the clan of thieves.
      With the Putin-Shoigu association, the situation may change in favor of the statists.
  13. baytygan
    baytygan 10 December 2013 12: 35 New
    +3
    the people do not need any migrants, neither legal, nor even more illegal, unfortunately the people are excluded from governing the country ...
  14. Ross
    Ross 10 December 2013 12: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: Volkhov
    It's not about the influx of labor resources, but about the replacement of the population - the Russians are drafted into the army and other structures and die in a hidden war, migrants come, start a second family here and "Moskvabad" ...
    December 6 Medvedev showed off in all black - very many on the eve got into this process.

    You need to look at things multidimensionally. Guest workers produce and unemployment, and feed corruption officials, corrupt them morally and create tension among the people, produce black unaccounted for business (tax losses) and reduce the money supply by sending huge sums to the migrants' homeland.
  15. Normal
    Normal 10 December 2013 13: 43 New
    +4
    So real unemployment, according to Gallup estimates, in Russia in 2011 was higher than 20%. Among women, it was estimated at 22%, among men - at 19%. It turns out that real unemployment in Russia is 3-4 times higher than Rosstat.

    “Great,” nothing to say. Add here a couple of million security guards (also hidden unemployment) and the blissful picture of Putin's "prosperity" turns into its opposite
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 December 2013 13: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Normal
      “Great,” nothing to say. Add here a couple of million security guards (also hidden unemployment) and the blissful picture of Putin's "prosperity" turns into its opposite

      Who is this gallup-gallup?
      Another order. First, the author compares unemployment in Europe with Russian with a benefit for Russia. A mess, then he invents his own rating scale, and spills numbers without any justification.
      And the phrase about "Russian capitalism - slavery", what's this? Does this formulation of the question imply that capitalism in the United States is not slavery? Like Western capitalism is good?
      author drink yadu.
  16. evgenm55
    evgenm55 10 December 2013 14: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Kohl
    I understand that the GDP keeps its masculine word in front of Dimon, keeping it in office. Well, it’s not to the detriment of the whole country to do this, he must also keep his word to the people. Or does he think that the word given to Dimon is more important ???


    INTERESTING IF IF THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED IN HIS EYES? Surely, I WOULD NOT RESPOND ....
  17. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 10 December 2013 14: 26 New
    +1
    But in a number of regions its level is extremely high. I will name only those regions in which it is above 10%: Ingushetia - 47,7; Chechnya - 29,8; Tuva - 18,4; Kalmykia - 13,1; Dagestan - 11,7; Altai - 11,6; The Trans-Baikal Territory is 10,6. It is not difficult to notice that the unemployment rate is prohibitive in the national republics. This is no longer just an economic problem of "underutilization of labor resources", but a socio-political problem, and it is very explosive, especially when it is superimposed on problems of national relations.

    Therefore, acts of terror do not subside in these republics, and those who do not participate leave in connection with the search for solutions to their social problems. And there is nothing to say about the CIS countries (especially the southern ones), where unemployment is several times higher. And there (the male population) are ready to be "slaves" to our criminal "slave owners" for the sake of their families. It feels like our "Aifonchik" is fulfilling the order of these "slave owners", or maybe some of the "Euro-concerned" ones.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 10 December 2013 15: 55 New
      +1
      and you don’t know, is he still listening to the iPhone, or was he finally taken away?
  18. drop
    drop 10 December 2013 15: 42 New
    +2
    In my life I had to create new enterprises where there was an excess of labor. Thus, enterprises were created in Partizansk (the mines had to be closed), in Svransk (for the release of long-range radio navigation equipment and television sets), Khmelnitsky, Kiev, Makhach Kale, Izbirbash, Shuya, Vitebsk, Kazan, Grodno, Almetyevsk, Chistopol, even in Moscow, Leningrad. But at first, with the State Planning Committee and the regional party committees, we evaluated the structure of labor resources. Then they planned for what it was necessary to create an enterprise (its products). Then, my industry research institutes prepared with the customer output volumes and proposals for the training of specialists. Government Decisions were prepared and executed. There were no disruptions in the commissioning of enterprises. We loved our country and people. And now they offer to settle hundreds of single-industry towns for the sake of what. They don’t work like that, and if they work, it’s for the sake of ... ...... The government should start thinking about the country and its population.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 10 December 2013 21: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Drop
      The government needs to start thinking about the country and its population.

      Dead room. It is time for the population to start thinking, and not to believe in a good king. A good tsar, by definition, is a boyar "ch" udaks.
  19. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 10 December 2013 15: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: GDP
    Conclusion - money does not reach the population or statistics are too high, or the strongest class stratification of society.

    The correct conclusion is "money does not reach the population and the strongest class stratification of society"
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  21. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 10 December 2013 16: 18 New
    +1
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  22. rexby63
    rexby63 10 December 2013 20: 50 New
    +2
    It's no secret that our citizens are ready to work even for very modest salaries.


    I don’t see something to our drilling crews, so that someone was torn. The conclusion for such a venerable author is impartial. All these "studies" are of some kind of prop-gandon character. No, there is no doubt, migrants are advancing, but you teach your children to resist them normally, professionally. Not like football fans and Nazis do it, but:
    1) If you are a specialist, then a specialist is several levels higher than a native of Asia
    2) If you are a man, then you don’t hide your cowardly head in the sand
    2) If you are a woman, then you are a WOMAN, not a crush

    And don't whine about a state that doesn't protect you. You just need to "blame" it. There you may be accepted, there "the state protects." Maybe ... After all, no one will tell the truth
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 10 December 2013 22: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: rexby63
      If you are a specialist, then a specialist is several levels higher than a native of Asia

      That's how much higher, so many people from Asia are changing.
      1. rexby63
        rexby63 11 December 2013 19: 37 New
        0
        Let me disagree. Example No. 1:

        A drilling foreman is a difficult, dirty job and requires secondary geological education. Plus, without work experience, their hard workers will peck. Two "dry" wells - and you are a candidate for "flight". As a result, there is not a single drilling office in Kostroma (there are four large organizations in the city as a whole) where brunet "Slavs" work.
        Example № 2:
        Electrician. Well, I won't talk about our drilling conditions. A friend works in a construction (not in an electrical installation, but in a construction) as an electrician. there he is a "white crow" against the background of brunettes concrete workers and handymen. The Tajik superintendent (yes, already) tried to put his fellow countryman, but after a good "shorty", and as a result, an inspection from Kostromaenergo, he refused such a "creative" venture. Here are two examples where quantity will never turn into quality.
  23. Smoke
    Smoke 10 December 2013 21: 19 New
    0
    create normal working conditions with fair pay - and after 15-25 years, our girls will give birth to another 30 to 40 new labor resources, but for now, instead of attracting guest workers, it is necessary to automate and mechanize labor to the maximum with the help of equipment manufactured in Russia and in the Customs Union , you can sweep the yards with special equipment - our young guys and girls will work quickly and much more productively and these cleaners will work, not from villages and villages aleimans and alibabais ...
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 December 2013 23: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Smoke
      create normal working conditions with fair pay

      Create, provide, provide, a star from the sky, and so on and so forth! Pour belts to you and your "girls".
  24. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 10 December 2013 21: 46 New
    +1
    Here is a video version of a discussion of LADY's work:
    http://www.rline.tv/programs/tochka-zreniya/video-23639/?p=1&l=3
  25. Altona
    Altona 10 December 2013 22: 11 New
    +1
    I completely agree with the article ... Our management cannot organize anything related to work ... It is always busy counting money ... Distracting management from calculating money causes the management to have a poorly concealed irritation ...
  26. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 10 December 2013 22: 13 New
    +1
    <<< The system of labor relations, which the Prime Minister substantiates in his interview-report, is aimed at serving the interests of "wild" Russian capitalism, which needs the cheapest and even slave labor force. >>>
    And he, obviously, stands on serving the interests of this "wild", besides, criminal capitalism, which is most eloquently evidenced by his passage about Russia as a rule of law, which, it turns out, is precisely because it does not ratify the LEGAL 20 th article of the UN Convention against Corruption, which allows for the confiscation of illegally acquired property from corrupt officials and embezzlers! Other non-legal states that really fight corruption have ratified this article, but we have NOT! Such is the "concern" .......! So is it any wonder at his statements. Other than the new ...... backgrounds, he doesn't seem to care much!
  27. Smoke
    Smoke 11 December 2013 00: 32 New
    -1
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: Smoke
    create normal working conditions with fair pay

    Create, provide, provide, a star from the sky, and so on and so forth! Pour belts to you and your "girls".

    if you are so smart then answer to start with the question why a cow eats cakes and sheep peas? And then write here about belts, etc.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 11 December 2013 01: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Smoke
      if you are so smart then answer to start with the question why a cow eats cakes and sheep peas? And then write here about belts, etc.

      Well, what did you expect? Either the eggs interfere with you, then the grenades of the wrong system, then the tights are crooked.
      You are trying to tell us that if a woman is given money, then she will immediately begin to give birth! But figs you guessed right, it does not depend on the standard of living, and even vice versa, a high standard of living harms the birth rate.
      Well, of course, this does not interest you, you are interested in a very important question:
      Quote: Smoke
      why a cow eats cakes and a sheep peas
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 11 December 2013 01: 44 New
        0
        A "Europeanized" woman is prevented from giving birth to the desire to live "for herself" - that is, for her own pleasure, and then (when they are well over 30) they don't even need anyone.
  28. demotivator
    demotivator 11 December 2013 06: 22 New
    0
    Statements of this kind that we urgently need Gaster leave doubts about the adequacy of the politician. There are 4 million unemployed in Russia. In some regions of the country, unemployment is a real scourge. And at the same time, there are 11 million migrants in the country — they certainly will not save the Russian state. 23 million old people and small children: these cannot be saved - even if they wish. And also tens of millions of people “without roots” - childless, divorced, whom nothing holds in their native country. There is still a huge number of anti-patriotic-minded people whose main dream is to “get out of Raska” ...
    Russia needs a new concept of national security in which power will rely on at least some social support. In the meantime, the only social base of the authorities remains a million Russian officials with children and households. Not so much...