What is really happening in the Middle East and what do they want to feed us?

92


Often commenting on the articles in the "VO", I draw attention to the increasing informational stuffing directed against the interests of our country. The last material that I noticed was published in the article “Western allies are negotiating with Syrian Islamists. Who will be their next victim? ”.

I would like to express my opinion on this issue in this article.

The article is like a quilt, no logic of events and connections between different regions. Plain porridge. But after reading, there remains an unpleasant aftertaste associated with the conclusions about the final "collapse of the Assad regime." Russia is unprofitable the fall of the Syrian state, because such a "processing" of the consciousness of Russian inhabitants is harmful in the long term.

About Syria. The regime has just resisted and really is killing terrorists. This is an obvious fact. No one took a break, just the resources of Turkey, the USA, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not infinite, as some are trying to show, intimidating the whole world with their “power”. The Islamist forces are actually very modest, because they achieved victory only in Libya and only with the intervention of NATO. And the financial and human resources of CA and Qatar are very limited. Of course, they can send tens of thousands more militants from the "poor" of the Islamic world, the same Yemen, for example. But you need to understand the real costs and the effect of such a policy. Not all people can be fighters. Indeed, Assad has already grinded inexperienced Islamists, at least reduced their numbers so much that he has deprived them of their strategic initiative. That "meat", which is driven to replace, just does not have time to gain combat experience and become a "pro", they just grind hundreds. And the costs of “buying”, arming, transferring and supplying such “meat” are not much lower than for the “pro” group. In turn, even at the initial stage of the war, when there were more professional terrorists, the ratio of losses was not in favor of the militants. Because it doesn’t matter how well trained and equipped you are if you are opposing an army with heavy weapons in open combat aviationyou still suffer big losses. Moreover, the loss of "cannon fodder" against the army is growing even stronger.

Sunni monarchies have also begun to understand such mathematics lately, and therefore they are changing their strategy. They tried to draw the US into the war against Syria, but it did not work either. Now they really took a pause, but in order to think about how to avoid responsibility. After all, the "Shiite crescent" will want to continue the showdown, but in the territory of the Sunnis.

Now about chemical weapons. After its total diplomatic failure, the West is trying in every way to reduce moral damage, raising the hype in the media that Asad is a fool, that he himself is disarming and this is in fact a secret victory for the West, not Russia. Some cite the example of Saddam and the destruction of his tactical complexes, also with the participation of the Russian Federation. Then, as a result, Saddam was still attacked, and there was really no sense of disarmament. However, this is a mixture of concepts and distraction. The fact remains that the US was really ready to strike at Syria back in September, and they would have done so. It is necessary to look at all the events in the complex, and not separately. In the United States, then the default was just about to come up, and they had to devote attention to it in every way, show their power to the world and thereby support their policies of enormous waste “for the good of democracy”. And so that all countries become thoughtful about their behavior and continue to buy candy wrappers. So only for this reason, not to mention the Jewish and Sunni lobbying of this war and even the payment of the costs of this campaign. So the initiative of the Russian Federation frustrated these plans and caused great damage to the prestige of the United States. As a result, the latter launched a show about “not raising the national debt ceiling” and kept the “intrigue” until the last moment, even sending the government “on vacation” for several weeks. However, as a result, the ceiling was raised as usual, but, in contrast to the first scenario, they were forced to start cutting down many programs. It did not turn out to show its strength, they were forced to show that they “listened” to the opinion of international donors. This is the second plus of the victory of Russian diplomacy, in addition to saving Syria itself and increasing Moscow’s influence in the region.

Now about the defense of Assad after the elimination of chemical weapons. Defense will only increase! The fact is that Assad, even in 2005, offered to get rid of all the chemicalsenal that he inherited. At the same time, the “chemical warfare” was disbanded, and all arsenals were mothballed. At that time, this disarmament proposal was tied to similar actions by Israel, but the United States rejected the deal. So Assad himself wanted to get rid of chemical weapons long before the outbreak of war. In tactical terms, the presence of chemical weapons from Assad weakens his position. Since he cannot use it against militants: he will poison his own country and his own population. A significant part of the forces of the army is leaving for the protection of objects, besides provocations with chemical weapons on the part of the militants put Syria’s statehood at risk. That is why Assad so easily agreed to disarm because it benefits him, even without taking it away from NATO. What will happen next year is not clear, but at least there will be no “legitimate” grounds for a “humanitarian” strike on Syria, and this is the victory of Assad and the Russian Federation.

Regarding the stability of Assad and the economic situation. Damage to the economy was really enormous, but it is not lethal for Assad. This is a somewhat controversial statement, but pay attention to where and how clashes occur and who suffer damage. In Syria, more 70% of the population are Sunni, and this is a fact, not all are radically minded, but many. During the fighting and stripping crumbling residential and industrial buildings. But to whom did they belong? The toughest battles and destruction are in loyal militant settlements. This indirectly leads to the impoverishment of the Sunni population and the weakening of their potential power in the country. The Alawites and Shiites have external sponsors, such as Iran, which means that Assad will require far fewer resources to maintain power than to ensure the entire country, including the Sunnis. I repeat that this is a very controversial conclusion, but it seems to me that he has the right to be voiced. I never said that Assad is a saint, but he is a patriot of his country and the society that existed in the country before and during his rule. But objectively, it is the dictatorship of the Alawite minority against the radical Islamization of the Sunnis with the support of the monarchies of the Gulf. Indeed, in the case of a “typical” democracy, 70% Sunni may decide that Allah said to them that they need to exterminate all the infidels, which they will do, as some of them are trying to do today. Not all Sunnis are such, but the compromise that allowed representatives of many religions and nationalities in Syria to coexist peacefully is not based on the Sunni majority, but on the sanity of the Alawites.

What is the power in such countries? On the economic, military and political dominance of the minority. Such examples are not an exception, the same Saddam's Iraq and its Baath party, as well as Israel. Which before the mass migration was in fact one Palestinian people. But the Jews, with external support, created a military and economic fist that allows them to dominate the absolute majority of Arabs in the region.

So, the stability of the Assad regime with external support of at least one Iran is beyond doubt. And the fact that a huge part of the country and its economy is destroyed is a dual factor. For a large number of Syrian Sunnis has become even more economically dependent on the support of the state, having lost, including housing and work. And who pays, that and orders music.

Now further. The West does not control the Middle East and continues to lose its influence there. What is the breakdown of secular regimes? Where did it happen? From all over BW and North Africa? Only in Libya, which became a shame of the West and deprived them of the most important weapons - trust in their media. Adventure and the bloodbath, arranged in Libya, the West took off the last mask of virtue. Now no one will believe the West until the end of days. Many recent events and echoes about Libya, as well as 888 events. When the Fox channel for the whole world revealed manipulations in the information space from the USA, when a little girl was silenced during the live broadcast, when she was telling the truth. Then everyone understood the falsity of all Western values, which are presented to the aborigines as glass beads. It was with 2008, the trust in the West began to crumble. The financial crisis that began at the same time is a consequence of a drop in confidence in the Western “virtual” economy. Snowden and Manning are a consequence of the fall of the Americans' faith in the lie that their own authorities instil in them. Americans themselves are tired of living in a lie, and therefore go to such actions.

But if you go back to the article, where, besides Libya, the Islamists have been successful with the support of the West? The biggest victory was in Egypt, but there everything was already rolled back. To a much more secular regime than under Mubarak. Where else did the Islamists succeed or where did the secular regime fall? What state, except Libya, was torn apart? None and anywhere else. The whole "Arab Spring" failed, not justifying billions in investments in this project. Moreover, the sponsors themselves are now under attack.

So I do not agree with the fact that the West and the Islamists met in order for the West to decide where to send "bearded men" further. Look closely at the general background, and the real purpose of the meeting will become apparent. In the information field, Russia delivered a crushing blow to the West in Syria. But the consequences of this blow have not yet passed. In addition, following a “chemical” deal, it was decided to convene a “Geneva-2”. For its part, Russia has shown the world that Assad is willing to compromise, that is, this is a person with whom you can deal. In addition, Russia has shown the world that it controls Asad and can convey to him their decisions. In turn, the same is required from the opposite side. But it is here that the West has a problem. The West and the United States do not control the militants and terrorists they themselves have created. As with the Taliban, this is a failure of the US intelligence services. Who will deal in this context with the United States? They expose themselves completely incapable. They draw the “red line”, through which they themselves step over, recognize the militants as legitimate authorities, but are not able to agree and influence a bunch of uneducated savages. It is for this reason that the Geneva-2 is constantly being transferred. And the US is losing its influence every day, until the world community sees their weakness and uncontrollable situation. Against this background, China began to move and began to actively promote its interests, including through the creation of an air defense zone. Iraq and Egypt began to look at Russia as a more reliable partner than the United States. And the same movements are going around the world, although for some reason this is hushed up by many media.

So at this meeting, the West, in the person of the United States, is trying to save its authority by offering “gifts” to bearded men, so that they at least formally come to Geneva-2. That's the whole intrigue. The owner pays his creature to obey him.

In principle, everything else in the article is an awkward mess, which is not worth commenting on. For where is Afghanistan or Yemen? Or Iraq and Northern Kurdistan? The destabilization of Yemen is unprofitable, first of all, to the West and, of course, to Saudi Arabia. For if Yemen turns into a second Somalia, then world trade will suffer huge losses. Passing through the Red Sea will be an eternal walk with pirates. Especially since wild tribes with weapons will threaten stability in Saudi Arabia itself. Moreover, this development is also beneficial for Iran, which has already established relations with Oman and is beginning to project its influence on Yemen to create a second front against the Saudis.

As for Northern Kurdistan, its success is based on the actions of the United States. Since during the Iraqi company, it was the Kurds who bet on the United States. As Iraq becomes increasingly Shiite and US influence over this state will decline, Shiite authorities can also take over the north of the country. Yes, and play on the side of the Kurds for the West is very dangerous. For Turkey is a member of NATO, and if the Kurds suddenly feel their strength, then a united Kurdistan will want, then the Turks will have to shed a lot of their blood.

The same is true about Afghanistan. US negotiate with the Syrian terrorists, so that they went to fight in Afghanistan against the US and NATO? Where is even a drop of logic in the conclusions of the author? Most Islamic groups are outright bandits who came to Syria to plunder and enrich themselves. Who will they rob in Afghanistan? Who is waiting for them there? Will Afghan warlords want to share narco-dollars with "strangers"? Will British special services miss their drug project?

All sorts of provocateurs, 10, for years, want to add to the Russian consciousness the idea of ​​a threat from the south in order to divert from the real threat from the west, which is now being manifested in Ukraine. Then we are frightened by the expansion of China, which for some reason develops mainly only the fleet and moves south towards Australia. We are frightened by the fact that if NATO leaves our underbelly, the Taliban will rush to Siberia ... Where are there any facts or prerequisites for such a movement? When the Taliban or Afghans threatened Russia or the USSR? The Narcovoy - only after NATO arrived in Afghanistan, but not earlier. Why would anyone think that the Afghans, remembering the past, would want to indulge again with the Russian soldier? After all, the Taliban lead their main activity not in the north, but just in the south. They are interested in Pakistan, they have bases and influence there and want to expand it. In a pinch, get a nuclear weapon and a sufficiently rich country, go into the Indian Ocean and support the co-religionists in the confrontation with India. What are their interests in the north? Only those that are invented for them in London and Washington. Afghanistan is a threat to the Russian Federation, but only as long as NATO is in charge of it. Strengthening the border is, of course, necessary and all the more necessary to fight the drug mafia, but one should not overestimate the threat of the Taliban. It is better to strengthen in the west and north, since, while they want to pull us to the south, some countries begin to become impudent in the Russian Arctic.

In general, I would stop at this. I just want to ask fellow citizens and readers of “VO” to be more independent in their judgments, and not to rely on other people's thoughts. I am deeply worried about the passivity of our people and their habit of “hawking” information on faith, without their own analysis and understanding of what is written about. Russia does have enemies, and they want us to stop thinking and believing. This should not be allowed, you need to constantly keep your consciousness on guard.
92 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +21
    10 December 2013 08: 49
    "I am very worried about the passivity of our people and their habit of" hawking "information on faith, without their own analysis and understanding of what is being written about." - I am not an orientalist and not a political observer, an analyst on the Middle East, I have not been there and friends of the Syrians, Libyans and Iranians are not there either - and therefore, as the author said, "hawala" information from the media - but here we have enough proffie brains "to powder "nice! The experts are powdering - there is an information war, and here only your life experience will save, after all, there is no desire to be brainwashed! Good luck to everyone on this difficult path! drinks
    1. +5
      10 December 2013 09: 46
      Quote: taseka
      I am not an orientalist and not a political observer, an analyst on the Middle East, I have not been there and friends of the Syrians, Libyans and Iranians are not there either - and therefore, as the author put it, "hawat" information from the media - but here we have enough proffies to "powder" nice! The experts are powdering - there is an information war, and here only your life experience will save, after all, there is no desire to be brainwashed! Good luck to everyone on this difficult path!


      In order to recreate a more complete picture, it is necessary to take information from different sources and from both sides of the conflict, if you take this particular example, analyze it yourself, separate the grain from the chaff.
      Here is a crime: during a binge, two men began to fight and as a result struck one another with a stone - they called the police, they have not yet found the culprit, since it was a friend of someone there ... The trial begins: some describe the situation that the victim himself guilty, others, that the criminal is generally the devil in the flesh. The criminal also describes everything in different ways. And when you listen to everyone, you eliminate all the contradictions, and generalize the coincidences - then the objective picture emerges.
      1. +1
        10 December 2013 11: 06
        No news feed on the subject, howls and chaos of guesswork is obtained.
        1. +2
          10 December 2013 13: 08
          Quote: Civil
          No news feed on the subject, howls and chaos of guesswork is obtained.

          Why tape? Do you have your own brains? Or, if they began to teach math badly, then this cancels the ANALYTICS? If literature has begun to be poorly taught, does this abolish associative thinking? Etc.
    2. +8
      10 December 2013 09: 48
      The reason that the West has stumbled is Russia's firm, distinct position. It must be understood by many that only an independent policy and opinion of Russia will give her respect and save many countries from destruction.
    3. +5
      10 December 2013 10: 30
      I was also "hooked" by the line you selected, Alexander)))
      The article is good, somewhat scattered throughout the text (lapping consciousness)), but straight to the point. I noticed several accurate characteristics of the situation in the Middle East and the nature of media coverage ...
      Now about the Conclusions))))
      Well, for example, the CORRECT analogy on the chemical weapons of Assad with Hussein, but the author's conclusion, to put it mildly "controversial"...


      Let's speculate, comprehend))) That is, remember Assad (pre-war)) his beautiful wife Asmu al-Assad))) native of Great Britain. Why did today's "hero" leader come to such a situation with his country ????
      Wait a "dentist" -the ruler is doing an excellent job perfectly avoids the blows of Special Services, agreed to the elimination of the Weapon of Retaliation against Israel (that’s why his Father collected))And the Jews lobbied for the issue of the Nobel Prize for awarding ANYONE (BEFORE THIS)) UNKNOWN ORGANIZATION, although there (sort of like))) "Putin fussed around" and Assad himself laid down his Weapon before ... Think Comrades)))))
      Jews received -70% of all Swede Nobel prizes. (That is, they own a controlling stake)))
      Prior to this, they received the Peace Prize-Gorbachev (some consider him Judas))Negro Obama, Barack (in Hebrew "lightning"))), Khuseinovich - Unleashed the Slaughterhouse in the Middle East (with an olive wreath on its head)))))))))

      Do not you think that personal merit has nothing to do with it ????
      What are these "pawns" that We are discussing here in all seriousness)))
      Not a single independent figure, on the opposing sides, all play One role, the Third War ....
      And the face of the Women’s War (Asma)) and the inevitability of its occurrence was laid in the boutiques of London, Paris, New York, where Asma was Coming ...
      Somewhat unexpected conclusion, isn't it ??? But not everyone writes in newspapers, you need to be able to read between the lines. And what really happens in the Newspapers can be counted only by reading similar articles (more than a few))))


      I will be original until the end)))) My congratulations on the Coming New Year (I will be the first with congratulations))) Winter will be "hot" - apparently, Uncontrollable, even "behind the scenes" .... many of the mentioned personalities will die ((Where This will output ???
      By the end of the "first round", at one time People will not win))))
      1. +3
        10 December 2013 11: 09
        Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems to be the first statement about the direct influence of women on the power of those in power, thereby influencing events in politics, both internal and external.

        Usually no one knows that there wives advise their husbands. And those through the animal instincts of men without a pale or ultimately impose their opinions and prompt certain actions. Plus, there are also stories between her friends that her husband started there. By the way, for the generals at one time told state secrets to their women, mainly after sex and in a whisper, and they, in turn, to their girlfriends and louder (as a result, this was no longer a secret), planted the whole company at once. but many later talked about political motives. Well, yes, the state secret is a political matter.

        In a similar way, the wives influenced the Russian emperors, in particular Nicholas 2 (his wife, like the Austrian, was and in fact had a considerable influence on the decision to participate in the First World War). Then Nicholas himself declared that it would be better to endure one hundred Rasputins than one hysteria of his wife. Naina also had an impact on Gorbi. About it more than once in the Western press spoke out positively.

        In general, women put pressure on ambition, tantrums, sexual relationships and achieve the desired result.
        1. +6
          10 December 2013 12: 41
          Quote: Sunjar
          Naina also had an impact on Gorbi. About it more than once in the Western press spoke out positively.

          Nothing to himself, so "hunchback" with Naina twisted, that's why EBN became president. lol
        2. Gluxar_
          +2
          10 December 2013 13: 14
          Quote: Sunjar
          Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems to be the first statement about the direct influence of women on the power of those in power, thereby influencing events in politics, both internal and external.

          Usually no one knows that there wives advise their husbands. And those through the animal instincts of men without a pale or ultimately impose their opinions and prompt certain actions. Plus, there are also stories between her friends that her husband started there. By the way, for the generals at one time told state secrets to their women, mainly after sex and in a whisper, and they, in turn, to their girlfriends and louder (as a result, this was no longer a secret), planted the whole company at once. but many later talked about political motives. Well, yes, the state secret is a political matter.

          In a similar way, the wives influenced the Russian emperors, in particular Nicholas 2 (his wife, like the Austrian, was and in fact had a considerable influence on the decision to participate in the First World War). Then Nicholas himself declared that it would be better to endure one hundred Rasputins than one hysteria of his wife. Naina also had an impact on Gorbi. About it more than once in the Western press spoke out positively.

          In general, women put pressure on ambition, tantrums, sexual relationships and achieve the desired result.

          Interestingly, is Putin’s divorce from this category?

          But seriously, one should not exaggerate the role of the wives of the leaders of the countries in the state policy. This is another myth. A wife is certainly capable of exerting some kind of influence, but one should not forget that behind each president there is a whole group of politicians and specialists. Just like Putin, this is not the king and all the changes in Russia. There are entire analytical teams who actually make informed and calculated decisions. The same Obama is hundreds of times more dependent on the State Department than on his wife. So it is with Assad. He is too young for such a confrontation and is more used as an "icon of resistance." In fact, the defense of Syria is controlled by the "Allawite backbone" of the special services and the military elite.
          1. +1
            10 December 2013 14: 15
            Do not downplay. Previously, this was more obvious when, due to the women, the war played out, then everything went into the shadows. I am not saying that women alone rule, but you cannot run away from their influence. In real life, we have matriarchy. If you have a lawful wife or a common-law wife, then you really will not shame your heart by doing what you think is necessary. Basically, when a woman says that we need to go to her mother, then according to her plans, events are taking place, and not according to her own (to watch and play football). Well, if you still decide on your opinion, then alas, sir, sit and masturbate in the literal sense of the word - a woman will refuse sex, and most men think a member. One can argue that it’s not so that the men are so conscious, but no — otherwise there would be no bathing of the prosecutor general with prostitutes in the sauna, there would be no catch and recruitment of scouts and diplomats (and these are generally flint in moral terms should be). All this on instincts is cranked up. And those who are not aware of this and are caught and driven.

            As for Putin’s divorce, this is all a message for those who understand. Exactly like flying with Siberian Cranes, catching 20 kg of pikes (although it does not look like 10 there), the discovery of golden amphoras. Many people think that the president should do it and he’s doing whatever he wants, but it’s not as simple as it seems. And in this case, an event is not just an event, but a message for those who understand their meaning.
            1. Gluxar_
              +3
              10 December 2013 15: 35
              Quote: Sunjar
              Do not downplay. Previously, this was more obvious when, due to the women, the war played out, then everything went into the shadows. I am not saying that women alone rule, but you cannot run away from their influence. In real life, we have matriarchy. If you have a lawful wife or a common-law wife, then you really will not bend your soul by doing what you think is necessary. Basically, when a woman says that we need to go to her mother, then according to her plans, events are taking place, and not according to her own (to watch and play football). Well, if you still decide on your opinion, then alas, sir, sit and masturbate in the literal sense of the word - a woman will refuse sex, and most men think a member.

              Do not be kind to be offended, but you think in stereotypes. I don’t know where the matriarchy is, but in my family I make decisions myself. Most animals think as a member. As a reasonable person, I control my desires and instincts, which I wish for everyone. And if you have a choice to be henpecked or, then you are initially henpecked. I feel sorry for you.

              I don’t know where you are from, but Russia has always been just a patriarchal country. No real man will allow a woman to twist. But a dud will never be able to break into power. Hence the simple conclusion that a woman’s policy does not affect the leadership of the country. Moreover, decisions are always collective.
              Quote: Sunjar
              One can argue that it’s not so that the men are so conscious, but no — otherwise there would be no bathing of the prosecutor general with prostitutes in the sauna, there would be no catch and recruitment of scouts and diplomats (and these are generally flint in moral terms should be). All this on instincts is cranked up. And those who are not aware of this and are caught and driven.

              What the hell are you talking about? The prosecutor "trembles" whores, but does not consult with them in any way. He can be caught on his weaknesses, but this does not mean that he is dependent on women for his judgments. You are talking some kind of nonsense. This article is just for people like you who have a mess of their chosen cliches and stereotypes in their heads. You watched a lot of TV shows.

              Quote: Sunjar
              As for Putin’s divorce, this is all a message for those who understand. Exactly like flying with Siberian Cranes, catching 20 kg of pikes (although it does not look like 10 there), the discovery of golden amphoras. Many people think that the president should do it and he’s doing whatever he wants, but it’s not as simple as it seems. And in this case, an event is not just an event, but a message for those who understand their meaning.
              You have now written a bunch of letters with zero meaning. Do you know how to think and speak essentially? What is the message and to whom is it directed?
              Sorry, but judging by your posts you are an avid drocher, and hence a woman-hater. You give women away for some kind of evil. Do you think that ALL women politicians are AGENTS of the western intelligence services? Raisa’s example is unfounded, and humpback horseradish was an instrument, not the brain of the collapse of the USSR.
              Do you even admit the idea that a woman and a man can love each other and create a family just like that, without the subsequent political overtones?
        3. +1
          10 December 2013 15: 06
          Not the first and not the last. There is such a thing - the institution of Jewish wives. Explains a lot.
          Only here, again, the wife is a pawn, an instrument, many are processed through them. Women who want to gain power usually go over corpses without hiding their ambitions, this is a different type.
          1. Gluxar_
            0
            10 December 2013 15: 47
            Quote: Lapotnik
            Not the first and not the last. There is such a thing - the institution of Jewish wives. Explains a lot.
            Only here, again, the wife is a pawn, an instrument, many are processed through them. Women who want to gain power usually go over corpses without hiding their ambitions, this is a different type.

            This is another stereotype about the Zionists. Moreover, this myth is many centuries old. This bike was invented by the Jews themselves for their legitimization. Do you know the history of Jewry? Not today's romantic, but real? This is an outcast people. After their last kingdom collapsed, the people dispersed and were largely assimilated by other nations. And in those days, morals were tough. Jewish men were simply exterminated or sent to work, where they died without offspring. And women were simply made slaves or maids, used for sexual pleasures. Against this background, the opinion appeared that it does not matter who planted the seed in a Jewish woman, her child is a Jew. That is why Jewry existed. There is no longer any blood of "Moses" and other prophets in modern Jews. All that remains is the stereotypical thinking of a certain "class of people" based on the teachings of the Torah and ordinary human cunning. For without cunning, such a community of people could not have survived. Hence all the modern position of Jews and stories about "Jewish wives". The fact that the Jewish ideology of living at the expense of others has become so popular in our time is associated with capitalism and the institution of usury. The Jews were not allowed to own land, the main asset of the dominant estates for the past 2 millennia. From here they took up the service sector and usury. The rest of the movement is within these historical premises.
            People read more and try to understand the real causes and effects, then no one can deceive you. And to take "ready-made nonsense" and put it in your head is a bad business.
        4. The comment was deleted.
      2. +2
        10 December 2013 12: 25
        Winter will be "hot" - judging by everything, Uncontrollable, even "behind the scenes".
        yeah, the British scientists won the next end of the world on February 22, based on Scandinavian myths ...))))
        * dreamily * go to us on Ragnarö-yok winked
      3. +2
        10 December 2013 14: 10
        Quote: Asgard
        The article is good, somewhat scattered throughout the text (splashing consciousness))

        It is not for you to judge the "scattering" of the article, your stream of consciousness is generally nightmare. Judging by the number of smileys, are you hysterical or something? A bunch of underscores, different colors, a bacchanalia of capital letters and bold fonts, and smiley smileys ...

        Such a monstrous design can hardly hide something sensible and intelligible.
      4. Fin
        +3
        10 December 2013 16: 17
        Quote: Asgard
        Let's speculate, comprehend))) That is, remember Assad (pre-war)) his beautiful wife Asma al-Assad))) a native of Great Britain

        Asgard It’s very difficult for you to understand, could you please communicate more simply.
        Correct if you do not understand. Do you consider Assad's wife a protege of the world government in the person of the Zionists, who, through her husband, is pushing the world to war? The parallels with Raisa, the wives of Yushch and Sukashvili, who brought nothing but chaos, begs themselves.
        Then why for almost 3 years she failed to do this? Or is Assad not listening to the night cuckoo? No one doubts that there will be 3 MVs, but that it will start in Syria is unlikely in today's situation. Or did they specifically let the GDP win in Syria, is someone still not ready for the redivision of the world?
        I can believe it, if there are facts, and so everything you have stated is similar to conspiracy theology in its purest form.
        1. +2
          10 December 2013 18: 19
          Well, here you need to write an article, but until I get 100 credits of trust from Komrad, I have no right to do this)))))
          With their charter, they don’t go to the Alien Monastery. (Until I became my own here))))
          They criticize me)))) for brackets, punctuation marks, which I write sketchy and conspiracy theories)))
          The article is written in a narrative, one comes from the other, you can insert ALL KNOWN PARALLELs of the plot from the Trojan War, Suvorov Campaigns, victories of Governor Mikhailo Vorotynsky ..... And at the end, chew the results.
          The current reader doesn’t like to think, he uses the search engine from the first page of the SERP (where there is also PROPAGANDA))) paid by the official authorities and Tricky businessmen from TNKcapital ...

          A feast for the mind begins on the tenth page of the results of Google (search engines))
          Quote: huut
          Such a monstrous design can hardly hide something sensible and intelligible.

          It’s to blame that I’m somehow different from the CANONS))) but you read it + ... and evaluate it as a minus, but I’m still grateful, your brain ..., still interprets letters and dots correctly (regardless of the Personal assessment )) The Russian language has levels of understanding (semantic, semantic, graphic, numerical ... somewhere around 20))) and a person reading builds his personality, raises the levels of truth of knowledge ....
          Well, the truth is, if He does NOT RUN, pausing at the comma, the Moscow Art Theater at the place of the ellipsis)))))) brackets are positive, and if you do not understand what Asgard wrote then (((((((( (((((((.......))

          Now according to what was requested.
          Assad and the Syrian People Happened, President Bashar Al-Assad is the banner of the Syrian People's struggle. However, This was not the case, literally 5 years ago. The "Dentist", the son of the Great Father, was the best friend of the West, studied there, got married, and in many ways was FORMED by the Anglo-Saxons .... Spent the Money of the Syrian People (stole)) This wonderful woman in the photo bought things by airplanes .... And in I was not in my country))) All abroad ...

          Here I am with my texts (short and "incomprehensible"))) trying to form you (in my opinion)) THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD, what is around you .... You have probably heard that TV and the media do this, especially Advertising and not believe it, the shelves in the supermarket))))
          The brain ...., banners and streamers across the road ALSO PERCEPTS, regardless of whether you read them (consciously) or NOT ...
          This allows you to keep you in check and hang on your ears about freedom of choice in the West .... (and not buy something at all)))
          Let's return to our Bashars))) Assad and Alma, in fact, This couple plays rehearsed roles, there is no independent politics - this is a Game. I tried (talking about the Nobel Prize)) to show it ... How is the distribution of Oscar statuettes going and that the extras (Putin and Assad)) will not be given them ...
          The Third Network War will be in Turkey (the center of events)) a meat grinder ... The same force will protect the territories (the rest))
          will donate Israel, Europe, the Government of Russia and the rest of the states, allegedly for the national. Interests will supply "Human flesh" to the scorching heat of war (for example, the war in Syria)) Wait there, the "technology" is being worked out and Assad is one of the participants (how regrettable sounds))
          I will not write about the rest (comrades are not ready to hear "Peshek" surnames ...)))) Eh-he-he-he.

          Everything is not at all what you think ................................
          1. +2
            10 December 2013 23: 38
            Quote: Asgard
            The Russian language has levels of understanding (semantic, semantic, graphic, numerical ... somewhere 20)))


            Since you have touched on the topic of consciousness and subconsciousness, I’ll add a little wood to the fire of your theories.
            All levels of understanding that you write about are formed by symbols. The human brain generally operates only with symbols, no matter what language it speaks. Therefore, at least know the semantics, at least sophistry, but all the facts are distorted to the level of symbols. And you can understand the difference only if you have a good education, and even then intuitively.
            Therefore, no conspiracy theories are needed, just describe the essence of the processes, and everyone will understand. And then your arguments are very reminiscent of the game in "an adult uncle will come, he will know everything." This is a manipulative tactic that intuitively rejects all of your arguments.
            1. +1
              11 December 2013 08: 44
              Quote: Botanologist
              All levels of understanding that you write about are formed by symbols. The human brain generally operates only with symbols, no matter what language it speaks. Therefore, at least know the semantics, at least sophistry, but all the facts are distorted to the level of symbols. And you can understand the difference only if you have a good education, and even then intuitively.
              The child’s brain operates only in IMAGES .... therefore, the child speaks the truth TRUTH))) This remains the same for adult People who think in RUSSIAN (Arabic)) LANGUAGE. They can speak Anyone)))
              But gradually there is a scrapping, there is a whole system - Football chants, Advertising, TV, the most important of the arts - Cinema)) but the main thing is the LANGUAGE, where the concepts are replaced - where U-Rod is bad, but in fact the firstborn in the family. Then the senseless "Power of the People" -DEMOCRACY was established in our country, and the brain then understands that this cannot be))) ... People's Self-Government is Yes, but who says that ????
              It is democracy that is being planted with bombs and the Police)))
              Symbolism is everywhere implanted, but He will not defeat the nature of Man)))))
              1. +1
                11 December 2013 20: 07
                Quote: Asgard
                Symbolism is everywhere implanted, but He will not defeat the nature of Man)))))


                As for symbolism, I agree completely. And I find your reasoning very sound, but it is very difficult to understand. I therefore got in with the comments that I understand your general message, but too long semantic gaps in the text and discrete logic do not allow a general idea. And this, you see, kills the thought. Though in Russian, even in Hebrew. Therefore, let's write easier, although this is not easy.
      5. +2
        10 December 2013 16: 45
        Not conclusions, but gibberish!
        Most men will not allow their spouse to command themselves, for Muslims there is nothing to say. Women command exclusively "mothers' sons", cowards, gigolos and other weak-willed male representatives. Assad is a man!
        And from your conclusions, it just smells like what the author of the article warns about.


        And the author of the article is a huge plus!
        1. +1
          10 December 2013 23: 42
          Quote: VadimSt
          Women command exclusively "mothers' sons", cowards, gigolos and other weak-willed male representatives.


          Alas, this is a fallacy. Women do not command, but control, because they are more sensitive. Compare the traffic controller, waving his wand, and the driver turning the steering wheel - this is the difference that you and your opponent invest in control. But you are wrong, and strong.
          1. 0
            11 December 2013 02: 51
            This is a "frontal" response to the interpretation of the role of women in managing a man-warrior, not a husband! I am not at all inclined to belittle the role of women, but at the same time, everyone should be in their place.
      6. S_mirnov
        -2
        10 December 2013 20: 25
        Quote: Asgard
        The article is good, somewhat scattered throughout the text (splashing consciousness)), but straight to the point.

        And in my opinion this article is just a fudge from what is really happening in our country! What really affects the life of you and me! No.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl56KoGNMA
        First you need to put things in order at home.
      7. +1
        10 December 2013 23: 23
        Quote: Asgard
        Not a single independent figure, on the opposing sides, all play One role, the Third War ....
        And the face of the Women’s War (Asma)) and the inevitability of its occurrence was laid in the boutiques of London, Paris, New York, where Asma was Coming ...


        We started with the Nobel, it smoothly carried you to the physiognomic features of the war. Moreover, even the boutiques were to blame.
        If you want to discuss the theory of world government, write directly. And then some kind of associations, like at the reception of a sex therapist request
      8. Angry reader
        +1
        11 December 2013 01: 46
        Asgard, practically any leader of the modern world can reach such a situation, if there were only more generous sponsors, this very "trick". ) read Sharpe.
    4. +2
      10 December 2013 14: 02
      yeah ... my father is almost 80 years old, and so he is sure that everything is very good with us! from the "box" of course, and it is impossible to dissuade him, what is said from the screen is the ultimate truth! He is forgiven for years, but how many "not old" (well .. censorship ...))) believe the TV box? especially where it is still! 2-3 channels? "main", according to which, by definition, only "the truth" is broadcast ???
      1. Angry reader
        0
        11 December 2013 04: 05
        just my father lived when it was really bad, and saw much more than yours, .. and at 80 he managed to maintain that optimism of which we are so lacking today ...)
    5. +6
      10 December 2013 15: 13
      Brilliantly described by the author!

      bearded men no one without support!

      and the Anglo-Saxons are eternal enemies! I remember a video about the First World War ... traitors!
    6. Hunghuz
      +1
      10 December 2013 16: 33
      hi What do you want from the media? and international and national media are all JEWISH (no offense) and they bring one point of view) specifically Israel .......)))))
      1. Gluxar_
        +1
        10 December 2013 17: 56
        Quote: Hunghouse

        Hunghuz (3) Today, 16:33 ↑ New
        What do you want from the media? and international and national media are all JEWISH (no offense) and they bring one point of view) specifically Israel .......)))))

        There are various media outlets, not only the Jewish ones lie. It's about something else. Who today believes their lies? Does anyone listen to CNN or FOX news? In fact, even the Russian RBC is a liberal platform of the West. Before, if I turned on the TV, I’ll only check with RBC. In the last couple of years, this channel is completely upset.
    7. Hunghuz
      +1
      10 December 2013 16: 35
      laughing You’ll write the truth from the heart and immediately complain about you .......))) you can pick up the pagons and turn them from fenders into a prastov ax) but in people around the world EYES OPEN)))))
    8. +3
      10 December 2013 17: 51
      About Syria. The regime has just resisted and really is killing terrorists. This is an obvious fact. No one took a break, just the resources of Turkey, the USA, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not infinite, as some are trying to show, intimidating the whole world with their “power”. The forces of the Islamists are actually quite modest, because they achieved victory only in Libya and only with the intervention of NATO. And the financial and human resources of CA and Qatar are very limited. Of course, they can send tens of thousands more militants from the "poor" of the Islamic world, the same Yemen, for example. But you need to understand the real costs and the effect of such a policy.
      Amers and Saudis had enough forces and means, most likely they heard a gringo than it threatens them, they chose the wrong ally. Instead of the secular opposition, they raised, armed and sent to the slaughter of the subhuman bearded. Again the imperialists' puncture.
  2. +8
    10 December 2013 08: 53
    An interesting article, largely agree with the author.
  3. +9
    10 December 2013 08: 53
    "The really hardened Islamists have already been ground down by Assad, at least he has reduced their number to such an extent that he has deprived them of their strategic initiative. The" meat "that is being brought in as a replacement simply does not have time to gain combat experience and become a" pro ", they are simply grinded in hundreds." ...

    - This cannot but rejoice - both as an objective fact and as a process of the correct treatment of cancerous tumors of radical Islamism. Article - plus, colleagues - good morning and have a good day!
    1. GDP
      +10
      10 December 2013 09: 18
      I would like to believe that Assad is winning, but to be honest, regularly analyzing the reports of battles, including from the official sites of Syria, I do not get this impression. I read Sana, Anna News, Pravdinform. Assad’s troops are constantly winning, the militants are dying in the hundreds every day, on average somewhere around ten thousand every month, and so for about a year, but the map of the battles is practically unchanged, the intensity of the battles is not weakening ... What does this mean? The fact that at least the forces are equal, the flow of militants and weapons is not weakening, moreover, it is growing, the government still does not control the borders ... The air defense system, I must say pretty good, could not prevent a single Israeli air raid.
      In my opinion, it’s too early to talk about Assad’s victory, we can only hope that the resources of the sponsors of the militants are not infinite, as well as the growth of the professionalism of the army and more active support from Russia, Iran, Hezbollah and China ...
      1. typhoon7
        +1
        10 December 2013 22: 27
        Go to vk.com/siriaassad and browse. The information coming in there can be said online. If you look at the information and battle maps for at least a month, you will see that the successes are impressive. At the expense of air raids, there were many throws into the information space.
  4. Christian
    +14
    10 December 2013 08: 54
    Many thanks to the author !!! This problem - the susceptibility of our person to the influence of "authoritative opinion" - is one of the main reasons for our current state. But as a person who has forgotten his ancestors, who do not know the history of their homeland, who have betrayed the faith of their ancestors, that is, who does not have their own spiritual core, they will not succumb to someone else's harmful ideological exposure !? It's impossible! We need a spiritual basis for the personality, for us this is Orthodox Christianity.
    1. +4
      10 December 2013 11: 15
      This was probably the smartest fascist, although he studied under Prince Gorchakov.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        +3
        10 December 2013 18: 05
        Quote: evgenm55
        This was probably the smartest fascist. Although he studied under Prince Gorchakov

        The elegance of the presentation contradicts the content of the comment.
        In addition to the "Battle of the Iron Chancellors" by V.S. Pikul, from where the second half of your thought is taken, there is also a real story. Bismarck Otto Eduard Leopold von Schönhausen went to Walhalla in 1998. He was undoubtedly a great statesman who led the unification of the German lands, but not a fascist. Adolf Hitler (born 1889) at that time wore short pants without a fly.
        Unfortunately, the current comprador regime will not allow Russia to cherish a policy of Bismarck scale with Gorchakov’s diplomatic talent.
      2. +2
        10 December 2013 18: 05
        Quote: evgenm55
        This was probably the smartest fascist, although he studied under Prince Gorchakov.

        Bismarck never seemed to be a fascist. An adversary, but not a fascist. Yes.
      3. +1
        10 December 2013 18: 15
        Quote: evgenm55
        This was probably the smartest fascist, although he studied under Prince Gorchakov.

        Fascists are Italians, they are closer to our nationalists.
        And for the Germans, the National Socialists are modern Americans. On the one hand, caring for "their" people, on the other hand, all the other "undemocrats"
    2. +3
      10 December 2013 11: 55
      Quote: Christian
      We need a spiritual foundation of personality - for us this is Orthodox Christianity.

      Nonsense. The spiritual foundation of Russians is much higher and more powerful than Christianity invented by puppeteers. That is why the Russian people are languishing because the Bible is incompatible with its true spiritual core.
      Where is our story in the bible? Where is at least one Russian described there? Everything is alien there.
      1. Gluxar_
        +8
        10 December 2013 13: 23
        Quote: Petrix
        Nonsense. The spiritual foundation of Russians is much higher and more powerful than Christianity invented by puppeteers. That is why the Russian people are languishing because the Bible is incompatible with its true spiritual core.
        Where is our story in the bible? Where is at least one Russian described there? Everything is alien there.

        In something, I agree with you. However, the role of Orthodoxy, and not Christianity, is very significant for the Russians. I am not a supporter of the religious denunciation of the state, but I myself am Orthodox, although I do not go to churches privately. There is nothing about the Russians in the bible. More precisely in the Old and New Testament. But besides the Bible, there are hundreds of works by our compatriots and saints, truly Russian heroes who, by their heroic example, show us all the path to salvation and victory.
        By the standards of both "Jewish" and Western Christianity, Orthodoxy is more like paganism. In which people pray to idol icons. They are not in the house that in fact a person prays not a wooden picture, but communicates with the spirit of his heroic ancestors, which largely corresponds to the Vedic ideas of the Slavs. I would say that Orthodoxy in Russia has more to do with Old Church Slavonic beliefs than with Jewish theology. Therefore, it accurately enough reflects the inner essence of the Russian person.
        Faith cannot be imposed on anyone and everyone must choose his own path. But before you write something or condemn someone, you need to study this better.
        1. 0
          11 December 2013 11: 23
          Quote: Gluxar_
          However, the role of Orthodoxy, and not Christianity, is very significant for the Russians.

          I would paraphrase more precisely: "The role of the spiritual (real), and not the ritual, is very significant for Russians." Orthodoxy is still based on the Bible, and not on the works of our saints. People believe, one way or another, but when they get to church they are told how to believe correctly. And this is violence.
          Today people have not become less believers, they have become less trusting churches, they have become more judicious.
          Quote: Gluxar_
          But before you write something or condemn someone, you need to study this better.

          I do not blame. He went through the church and read the bible at school. Just the unequivocal conclusion for all rumors cuts.
    3. +2
      10 December 2013 13: 23
      Oh! Bismarck has already crammed this hackneyed "Dulles plan" into a quote))
      "we will imperceptibly replace their values ​​with false ones and make them believe in these false values"
      But there are his real words about Orthodoxy, and they reflect what you expressed in your own words:
      We need a spiritual foundation of personality - for us this is Orthodox Christianity.
  5. +7
    10 December 2013 08: 56
    What is the strength in, brother?
    In the money? No. Power is in the truth. Who has it more and stronger.
    Are Americans, Eurogays or something stronger? They themselves are well aware that they lie every day, every hour.
    In the end, time will put everything in its place. And everyone will get what they deserve. (personally my opinion)
  6. makarov
    +3
    10 December 2013 09: 07
    "So I have no doubts about the stability of the Assad regime with the external support of at least one Iran ..."

    You would uv. the author would have put on the shelves the "regime" of Assad. In my opinion, before the start of the turmoil under false slogans, it really was a calm and prosperous country. I have not heard before that the regime is flourishing in Syria.
    1. +1
      10 December 2013 10: 27
      It would be better not to decompose "regime", but "stability", and why, without the CMP, Syria suddenly became stronger.
      1. Encoder
        +2
        10 December 2013 11: 07
        What's not clear? Weapons that cannot be used, but must be protected. Or do you seriously think that Assad would use it and sign a death sentence for himself? But it can easily get to the militants, and they will not be shy, and they will dump everything on Assad.
      2. Gluxar_
        +2
        10 December 2013 13: 48
        Quote: mirag2
        It would be better not to decompose "regime", but "stability", and why, without the CMP, Syria suddenly became stronger.

        Well, I have an opinion. For example, because XO does not give Assad any advantages against Israel. For Israel is not the main enemy of Syria. A historical curtsey took place in the BV, after the WEST gave "some" independence to its colonies, nationalist movements began to rise in these countries. And along with them, and the historical contradictions that the Europeans "extinguished" for a calmer management of their colonies in the 18th century.
        Today, these historical claims lead to increased tension on the Shiite-Sunni line. Until the conversion of BV on a religious basis occurs, there will be fermentation and blood will flow. This is the objective reason for the growing instability in this region, and not some Zionist conspiracy. Which can also take place, but most likely only plays on objective disagreements in the Islamic world itself.

        So for Syria it is now more important to cope with internal destructive processes than to try to confront Israel’s external aggression. Are you aware that all Assad’s chemical arsenals were mothballed several years ago?
        Do you think that Assad would use chemical weapons against Israel unilaterally or as a retaliatory measure in the event of any aggression? In the 21st century? With a certain attitude to the entire WMD of the international community? That is, in order to cause minor damage to the Jewish state, you can put your country in the category of an outcast? Having opened the door for Israel to use any means of retaliation? The time for chemical weapons has passed. It is acceptable only for total destruction wars. Wars of the Apocalypse. However, today there is no such tension between peoples.
        It is necessary to understand the true causes of modern conflicts and still give humanity a chance for "rationality". The conflict in Syria is an attempt to solve economic problems by force. What methods this is achieved is not so important.

        So talking about some kind of real value of the Arsenal of Chemical Weapons for the survival of the Syrian state is futile. Only "speculation" is admissible that in the event of Jewish aggression, Syria, in a suicidal attempt, can go into a fanatical exchange with Israel, just for the sake of revenge ... burying its future ... Such reasoning is groundless and unreasonable.

        If you have any objection arguments, it would be interesting to hear them. And give an example of the last 50 years, in which the use of chemical weapons ensured a victory or at least a strategic advantage for one of the parties. The United States with its "agent orange" inflicted more political and, as a result, military damage on themselves than they gained advantages against Vietnam.
    2. Gluxar_
      +2
      10 December 2013 13: 29
      Quote: makarov
      You would uv. the author would have put on the shelves the "regime" of Assad. In my opinion, before the start of the turmoil under false slogans, it really was a calm and prosperous country. I have not heard before that the regime is flourishing in Syria.

      Do you really need this? Or does the word "regime" upset you? This word has been denigrated in every possible way lately, but in its essence the word is good. "Operating mode", "sleep mode", etc. The mode is good. The lack of a regime is chaos. When I read "Putin's regime" somewhere, it only makes me smile.

      And according to Assad, then yes. In Syria, there was and is the Allawite regime and dictate. However, this did not prevent the Syrians from living in peace and harmony. And it was precisely the weakening of this regime and the spread of the ideas of "freedom and democracy" that led to the bloody bacchanalia.
      Likewise, the Gaddafi regime fell - because of the chaos of "freedom lovers", when the regime is not able to rein in the destructive elements in society, they begin to infect society itself. This ultimately leads to chaos and suffering.
      Likewise, the regime in Cuba could fall if the "Western democracy" spreads its disputes there.
    3. +3
      10 December 2013 18: 18
      Quote: makarov
      "So I have no doubts about the stability of the Assad regime with the external support of at least one Iran ..."
      You would uv. the author would have put on the shelves the "regime" of Assad. In my opinion, before the start of the turmoil under false slogans, it really was a calm and prosperous country. I have not heard before that the regime is flourishing in Syria.

      I have not heard about Ukraine before either. And now there is the MODE of Yanukovych.
      Wait for gifts from Western friends
      1. 0
        10 December 2013 23: 19
        as long as there are Arab countries in the BV, Israel can rest. Show me at least two Arab countries that have friendly relations in the region? There are no such countries. The same Arabs were the first with the Americans to break through Saddam's front during a desert storm. The Egyptians and Syrians were especially zealous! the same Arabs were silent in a rag when the same Anglo-Americans re-attacked Iraq, and even supported it. And tomorrow if someone dares to do something outside the plan, they will immediately be destroyed. Assad, of course, is holding on, and he now has there was a real chance. The Wahhabis seized the weapons depots and the main headquarters of the SSA can unite with the moderates and destroy all this rag-tag. And with your "prodigal" you can find a language.
  7. Valery Neonov
    +3
    10 December 2013 09: 18
    Like a layman- that's what with regards to the phrases about provocateurs who "add" into the minds of Russians about the threat from the south, in order to distract from the real threat from the west that is now manifesting in Ukraine. They scare us with the expansion of ChinaWell, I just can’t agree. The threats to Russia are real both from the west and from the south, and China, being a partner of Russia, is not an ally. As long as we need each other.
    Quote: taseka
    The experts are powdering - there is an information war and here only your life experience will save, because you don’t want to be brainwashed!
    -Exactly! hi drinks
  8. +4
    10 December 2013 09: 18
    Neither plus nor minus. I didn’t give out anything new. Reminds me of agitation, but expressed the main idea at the end. I don’t need to concentrate in the south and in the east, there are all friends, the threat is only from the west. .Some time is strange now.
    1. Encoder
      0
      10 December 2013 11: 10
      Have you been waiting for intelligence? Or are the facts from the nose dug out like most borozapisets?
    2. Gluxar_
      +4
      10 December 2013 13: 55
      Quote: baltika-18
      Neither plus nor minus. I didn’t give out anything new. Reminds me of agitation, but expressed the main idea at the end. I don’t need to concentrate in the south and in the east, there are all friends, the threat is only from the west. .Some time is strange now.

      Can you explain the real threat from the South? Or from the East? Just not speculation, but some facts?
      I believe that the threat comes only from the West. For example, only NATO can inflict some serious Russian Federation. And what's more, it does it today. Neither Chinese nor Afghan special services are rocking the boat, are waging trade wars against our country. China is not fencing off missile defense from us. Not China is promoting Russophobia in the world.
      Where is at least one example of a threat from the South or from the East? Even the very idea of ​​a "Chinese threat" is a product of the West. Just like the drug threat, this is NATO's work in Afghanistan.
      If you have something to tell you, then say it. Listen to.
  9. +2
    10 December 2013 09: 33
    What's happening ? Yes, this is a typical old game of arrogance. Destroy or weaken Muslims with the hands of Muslims. With a passing solution to some of the equally important issues.
    1. Guun
      +3
      10 December 2013 11: 09
      This is a game where moves are thought out for decades. The author is right in that they are frightened by the fact that, in principle, for now, or not at all! They distract attention, and thereby crank up combinations that are not visible, but then become so obvious that everyone will be horrified! Does the West think of its people? It is a myth! You and I see that NORMAL people are oppressing and changing light with darkness in places, destroying people all over the world, in a quiet way without noise. War? The only question is when. And the enemy is obvious.
      1. Gluxar_
        +2
        10 December 2013 13: 59
        Quote: Guun
        This is a game where moves are thought out for decades. The author is right in that they are frightened by the fact that, in principle, for now, or not at all! They distract attention, and thereby crank up combinations that are not visible, but then become so obvious that everyone will be horrified! Does the West think of its people? It is a myth! You and I see that NORMAL people are oppressing and changing light with darkness in places, destroying people all over the world, in a quiet way without noise. War? The only question is when. And the enemy is obvious.

        I agree with such conclusions. In other matters, it makes no sense to impose something on someone. If people are in captivity of other people's beliefs, they see the "Chinese threat". In the same way, schoolchildren were intimidated by the "Soviet threat". I remember movies like Red Sunrise. When a blue-eyed Slav from the PKK shoots little American schoolchildren ... so this is the Slav I. And I was not going to shoot anyone in '84. However, even today they look at me as a "bloodthirsty Russian". This is all information war, and so far to win in it.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  10. 0
    10 December 2013 09: 33
    from the Don.
    Logically. And yet, we have the Foreign Ministry, the GRU, the FSB, the big giraffe .... as they say!
    1. Gluxar_
      +3
      10 December 2013 14: 02
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      from the Don.
      Logically. And yet, we have the Foreign Ministry, the GRU, the FSB, the big giraffe .... as they say!

      But Russia has always survived, not on special services, but on the spirit and mind of its People. It should always be that way.
      And here the war is not so much against someone. Information war is a war "for our own". And on the "swamp" and today in Ukraine, our citizens are being turned into animals, they are simply made sick people. But this is our People. They are not enemies, but lost souls. The battle with the "Satanists" is still ahead, today there is a battle for our people.
  11. +1
    10 December 2013 09: 37
    I liked the conclusions of the author of the article.
  12. +4
    10 December 2013 09: 39
    Quote: baltika-18
    And for me it’s necessary everywhere, there are no friends now. There is some strange time now.

    I agree! I think so too .. Russia has always had only one ally (Army Fleet.)
  13. +3
    10 December 2013 09: 45
    This node is too confused there are so many players and forces of influence that it is impossible to bet on one. Our main task is not to let ourselves be drawn into these conflicts and to make sure that in no case this fire gets to our borders. And to the best of our ability to help Syria in the destruction of bearded Islamists, the more they will be destroyed there, the fewer will be.
    1. Gluxar_
      +3
      10 December 2013 14: 04
      Quote: morpogr
      This node is too confused there are so many players and forces of influence that it is impossible to bet on one. Our main task is not to let ourselves be drawn into these conflicts and to make sure that in no case this fire gets to our borders. And to the best of our ability to help Syria in the destruction of bearded Islamists, the more they will be destroyed there, the fewer will be.

      Why, if not the Russian wit to unravel such nodes? You understand that in order to protect your interests, you need to influence the situation in the region. Itself in our favor, she will not dare.
  14. Sigismund
    +9
    10 December 2013 10: 30
    The article is literate. It seems to me that a more difficult game is going on. The most important thing is not to get involved, as far as possible, into any wars directly. Win time and gain strength. Tidy up the economy. Continue to reform, strengthen the security forces and the army in the first place. Strengthen the border. For a number of countries to introduce visas. Understood with science. Clean the housing and communal services. Create as many jobs as possible. Improve the welfare of ordinary people. Strengthen responsibility for crimes that pose a threat to national security. Drugs, alcohol, corruption, theft of both state and personal equipment and property. Simply put, strengthen the rear. Pull Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia towards you. And also those countries that will show interest and will really be able to join the union. And of course, do not forget about our diplomatic services.
    1. +1
      10 December 2013 11: 40
      And - with brains and hands for.
      1. 0
        10 December 2013 18: 24
        Quote: evgenm55
        And - with brains and hands for.

        Work comrade work
    2. 0
      10 December 2013 18: 23
      Quote: Sigismund
      The article is literate. It seems to me that a more difficult game is going on. The most important thing is not to get involved, as far as possible, into any wars directly. Win time and gain strength. Tidy up the economy. Continue to reform, strengthen the security forces and the army in the first place. Strengthen the border. For a number of countries to introduce visas. Understood with science. Clean the housing and communal services. Create as many jobs as possible. Improve the welfare of ordinary people. Strengthen responsibility for crimes that pose a threat to national security. Drugs, alcohol, corruption, theft of both state and personal equipment and property. Simply put, strengthen the rear. Pull Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia towards you. And also those countries that will show interest and will really be able to join the union. And of course, do not forget about our diplomatic services.

      Yes YOU need to be in the PRESIDENT. Since you repeat the thesis of GDP. Will you go as a receiver?
  15. +1
    10 December 2013 10: 30
    Quote: Christian
    We need a spiritual foundation of personality - for us this is Orthodox Christianity

    It is very controversial - we have a multinational state. Although the rod of course should be
  16. Encoder
    +2
    10 December 2013 11: 18
    Of course, you need to read everyone and enemies and friends, but it’s nice to distinguish one from the other. I agree with the article. Alexander, write more often!
  17. +4
    10 December 2013 11: 36
    Quote: Asgard
    I was also "hooked" by the line you selected, Alexander)))
    The article is good, somewhat scattered throughout the text (lapping consciousness)), but straight to the point. I noticed several accurate characteristics of the situation in the Middle East and the nature of media coverage ...
    Now about the Conclusions))))
    Well, for example, the CORRECT analogy on the chemical weapons of Assad with Hussein, but the author's conclusion, to put it mildly "controversial"...


    Let's speculate, comprehend))) That is, remember Assad (pre-war)) his beautiful wife Asmu al-Assad))) native of Great Britain. Why did today's "hero" leader come to such a situation with his country ????
    Wait a "dentist" -the ruler is doing an excellent job perfectly avoids the blows of Special Services, agreed to the elimination of the Weapon of Retaliation against Israel (that’s why his Father collected))And the Jews lobbied for the issue of the Nobel Prize for awarding ANYONE (BEFORE THIS)) UNKNOWN ORGANIZATION, although there (sort of like))) "Putin fussed around" and Assad himself laid down his Weapon before ... Think Comrades)))))
    Jews received -70% of all Swede Nobel prizes. (That is, they own a controlling stake)))
    Prior to this, they received the Peace Prize-Gorbachev (some consider him Judas))Negro Obama, Barack (in Hebrew "lightning"))), Khuseinovich - Unleashed the Slaughterhouse in the Middle East (with an olive wreath on its head)))))))))

    Do not you think that personal merit has nothing to do with it ????
    What are these "pawns" that We are discussing here in all seriousness)))
    Not a single independent figure, on the opposing sides, all play One role, the Third War ....
    And the face of the Women’s War (Asma)) and the inevitability of its occurrence was laid in the boutiques of London, Paris, New York, where Asma was Coming ...
    Somewhat unexpected conclusion, isn't it ??? But not everyone writes in newspapers, you need to be able to read between the lines. And what really happens in the Newspapers can be counted only by reading similar articles (more than a few))))


    I will be original until the end)))) My congratulations on the Coming New Year (I will be the first with congratulations))) Winter will be "hot" - apparently, Uncontrollable, even "behind the scenes" .... many of the mentioned personalities will die ((Where This will output ???
    By the end of the "first round", at one time People will not win))))


    Interesting, but nevermind didn’t understand ...
    1. Sergh
      +3
      10 December 2013 13: 34
      Quote: evgenm55
      Interesting, but nevermind didn’t understand ...

      And what for then copy-paste? I just ruined the paper!
  18. +6
    10 December 2013 11: 54
    The article is quite interesting, competent and detailed. I just can’t agree about the non-threat from the south. I have a certain number of comrades, fellow soldiers went through 201 divisions or bases (as you like). Now one is still there. According to their stories, not that there’s no peace, there’s even no hint of it. Fights and skirmishes on the border and near are almost daily. They’ll climb and climb - they need to drag drugs, and they have so much that you can carry KAMAZ columns. And if it went straight to the west on them, but how much does it settle with us? How many lives will they take and how many fighters will still fall, smashing caravans? No, you can’t be calm about the south. But this is my opinion.
    1. Gluxar_
      +1
      10 December 2013 14: 08
      Quote: evgenm55
      The article is quite interesting, competent and detailed. I just can’t agree about the non-threat from the south. I have a certain number of comrades, fellow soldiers went through 201 divisions or bases (as you like). Now one is still there. According to their stories, not that there’s no peace, there’s even no hint of it. Fights and skirmishes on the border and near are almost daily. They’ll climb and climb - they need to drag drugs, and they have so much that you can carry KAMAZ columns. And if it went straight to the west on them, but how much does it settle with us? How many lives will they take and how many fighters will still fall, smashing caravans? No, you can’t be calm about the south. But this is my opinion.

      This is not an enemy invasion, but a drug trafficking problem. The services of the Ministry of Internal Affairs should decide, not the armed forces. And again, where do the legs of the drug cortex come from?
      1. +2
        10 December 2013 18: 35
        Ministry of Internal Affairs of course is good, only if they’re a band of gangs, you can’t do without an ARMY. You can’t miss the south.
  19. slybeast
    +1
    10 December 2013 12: 14
    good article. and it was most correctly said about chemical weapons in Syria, about the Taliban and the situation in the Red Sea region. +++
  20. tnship2
    +3
    10 December 2013 13: 27
    I agree with the author one hundred percent. While our government has maintained its position in the Middle East. While our politicians have been engaged in a political struggle with the Americans. The European Union, like a quiet rat near Russia, has made an orange revolution on its knee in a country with our brotherly people.
  21. +2
    10 December 2013 13: 36
    I hope that the GDP, after the Olympiad, will begin to put an end to the fatter in this campaign from west to east. Now we are still "blue" Europe, with Ukraine we will break off so that our mouth is closed, and immediately after the closing ceremony of the Olympics, we will announce the provision of armed assistance to Syria in the fight against militants, at the same time we will deploy some kind of base.
    1. +2
      10 December 2013 17: 49
      In Syria, our last navy base. We need to strengthen and support Assad - we need a base for the merchant fleet.
      1. Gluxar_
        0
        10 December 2013 17: 59
        Quote: papuasimus
        In Syria, our last navy base. We need to strengthen and support Assad - we need a base for the merchant fleet.

        We need no one to rock the world and push it into the muzzle of war. Time objectively works for Russia and against the West. As for the bases, that is, Egypt and Cyprus. Oddly enough, Israel would have approached, especially since NOVATEK is involved in gas projects in Israel. Russia needs chaos to start in countries supporting Wahhabism and terrorists in the North Caucasus.
  22. +3
    10 December 2013 13: 59
    In the publication, author Alexander Rodonov outlined his vision of the situation in the Middle East.
    One thing is certain, that the West, relying on terrorists of all stripes, tried to establish its policy in the Gulf countries with their hands.
    All their attempts led to the destruction of the Libyan regime and the establishment of uncontrollable territories of motley bandits.
    The former Russian authorities of "President" Medvedev helped them in this.
    Now a different situation in the WORLD and a different government in Russia.
  23. Adel
    0
    10 December 2013 16: 16
    West and US do not control militants and terrorists
    You make a big mistake, they feed and arm their own rats through their puppets and they can stop by order because puppets know for not obeying death
    1. Gluxar_
      0
      10 December 2013 18: 00
      Quote: Adel
      West and US do not control militants and terrorists
      You make a big mistake, they feed and arm their own rats through their puppets and they can stop by order because puppets know for not obeying death

      And how can you confirm this. The fact that the United States does NOT control the militants can be both the statements of the militants themselves, and the fact that they did not go to Geneva two in November. As Russia and the USA agreed on earlier. However, Assad was ready for a dialogue, and the United States could not bring "its" people to the negotiating table.
  24. +2
    10 December 2013 16: 31
    Quote: GDP
    more active support from Russia

    Russia just didn’t abandon it, cargoes are moving from Novorossiysk, constantly, recently very interesting equipment was leaving, two helicopters, not combat, but not very simple!
    1. Gluxar_
      -1
      10 December 2013 18: 17
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      It is necessary for Russia to play the Mexican or Canadian card, to throw a hedgehog to the Democrats under the skull, and on the economic side, too, the customs union, BRICS with their currencies without reference to the green and the states will have something to do, so as not to fall apart.

      What is the Mexican card? Or canadian? There are Texas or California cards in the USA, but they will play without the participation of Russia. The Russian Federation needs to work in zones of influence of the USA, for example, with Japan or South Korea. Better yet, deal with your country. 98% of attention to domestic problems - 2% to international. By internal, I mean the Eurasian Union as well.
  25. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    +1
    10 December 2013 16: 46
    The Middle East is beneficial to the States now as a constantly blown-up fireplace so that at any moment it is possible to recognize any victorious side of the conflict in any country as a source of threat to the interests and hotbed of terrorism. Divide and conquer - the eternal theme. In such an environment, a cloud of benefits:
    1. price dumping for resources - a ruined country will sell oil at arbitrarily low prices, this is not the case with OPEC; at the same time, we will hurt OPEC (oil in the world is sold only for green papers);
    2. the arms market - where there is instability, both the parties to the conflict and their concerned neighbors need weapons constantly. Weapons need to be tested, and here such polygons are not mannequins, but real "objects of influence";
    3. scope for intelligence - and recruitment, and ways of penetrating into neighboring countries along the paths of militants, and there are no moral restrictions on the elimination of objectionable leaders - such as flippers glued from the Mujahideen (at some point we’ll still hear about Assad, unfortunately);
    4. Israel must flex its muscles again without moral restrictions;
    5. Russia, Iran, Turkey - they also need to be prepared for a "bright future", with someone else's hands. And where Iran is, there is India, Pakistan and China, of course.
    It is necessary for Russia to play the Mexican or Canadian card, to throw a hedgehog to the Democrats under the skull, and on the economic side, too, the customs union, BRICS with their currencies without reference to the green and the states will have something to do, so as not to fall apart.
    1. Gluxar_
      +1
      10 December 2013 18: 17
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      The Middle East is beneficial to the States now as a constantly blown-up fireplace so that at any moment it is possible to recognize any victorious side of the conflict in any country as a source of threat to the interests and hotbed of terrorism. Divide and conquer - the eternal theme

      1. price dumping for resources - a ruined country will sell oil at arbitrarily low prices, this is not the case with OPEC; at the same time, we will hurt OPEC (oil in the world is sold only for green papers);
      Do you understand that oil production is significantly reduced in a devastated country? And the fact that such supplies are not reliable and you need to spend extra money on insurance? In case of instability, prices for the turnover rise rather than fall. Purchase prices are falling "at the well", but the chain of middlemen bandits each breaks off its own piece. So, as a result, oil rises in price due to reduced production and increased risks of shortages.
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      2. the arms market - where there is instability, both the parties to the conflict and their concerned neighbors need weapons constantly. Weapons need to be tested, and here such polygons are not mannequins, but real "objects of influence";

      Today they test more on computers. To buy weapons, you need money in the country. Ruined countries or wild tribes are not solvent. Although the theme of weapons for the United States is always a priority.
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      3. scope for intelligence - and recruitment, and ways of penetrating into neighboring countries along the paths of militants, and there are no moral restrictions on the elimination of objectionable leaders - such as flippers glued from the Mujahideen (at some point we’ll still hear about Assad, unfortunately);

      Do you understand that 5 years ago the USA completely controlled this region? Except Iran. Even Syria had normal contacts. To raise up one’s own patrimony is a stupid undertaking. There are probably more objective reasons for such events.
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      4. Israel must flex its muscles again without moral restrictions;

      How ? Israel sits quieter than water, below grass. realizing that in which case it turns out to be extreme. The United States does not drag out its military spending; Israel subsidizes from the United States. If there is no money in the USA, then Israel is not very rich ...
      Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
      5. Russia, Iran, Turkey - they also need to be prepared for a "bright future", with someone else's hands. And where Iran is, there is India, Pakistan and China, of course.

      If the USA and the West are preparing World War 3, then it would be beneficial to start it unexpectedly. The events of 888 and current in the BV, only push all the countries you have listed to rearm and internal unify. This is clearly not good for the United States when they themselves are weakening.
      1. Andrey Ulyanovsky
        +1
        10 December 2013 20: 13
        1. Oil. Libya is a living recent example: daily production of 1,1 million barrels per day, with a peak in fat times 1,5-1,7 million barrels (30% drop) - well, no investment is needed, download it. And this is in the chaos and tear of power.
        2. No one has canceled exercises and shooting, even if there are at least a hundred computers. Again, TNT filling or a blank is predictable and calculable, but what if you try another "filling"? Without live practice, the data will be preliminary.
        3. The fact of the matter is that everything on the contracts and contacts and the contacting countries are independent and the Arabs are still shifters - double-dealing with kafirs is not a sin. In a muddy environment, everything is easier.
        4. And what is more profitable for Israel, consolidated Muslims (remember the Arab-Israeli conflicts 67, 73) or a heaping bunch of spiders into which you can plant something under the guise?
        5. That's right, I was not talking about WWIII, but about the possibility of actions by the opposition, armed and supported, of course. The 5th column does not roll - it is expensive and the level of state teachers is getting lower (fresh "movements" in Ukraine).
        Something like this. And you write sensibly!
        1. Gluxar_
          0
          11 December 2013 23: 38
          Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
          1. Oil. Libya - A Live Recent Example

          The fall is still more than 30%. Although already on the nose 2014. At what price does the West buy this oil? A barrel as it cost 100, and today it costs 108. How many billions has Europe invested in this war? They even ran out of cruise missiles, at a price of $ 1.5 million apiece. How many billions have they invested in rebuilding the oil industry, you know? After how many decades will their investments pay off at current prices? How much additional cost do they incur for the protection of pipelines that regularly undermine discontented groups? How long will this situation be in Libya and who guarantees that there will be no counter-revolution? What company will invest in a country under such conditions?
          Libya is an example of the complete failure of the struggle for resources. Europe received more and cheaper under Gaddafi, without spending a dime on it. Gaddafi invested all his profits in European banks.
          Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
          2. No one has canceled exercises and shooting, even if there are at least a hundred computers. Again, TNT filling or a blank is predictable and calculable, but what if you try another "filling"? Without live practice, the data will be preliminary.

          What nonsense are you writing? For testing, especially advanced developments, there are special training grounds with all the necessary measurement equipment. In combat conditions, this is not possible. Given that government forces dominate, there is a good chance that development will go to competitors. NO ONE is testing new weapons in real wars. The same f-22 has not yet made a single sortie. Your assumptions of stupidity, especially if you count how much it costs. It’s cheaper to build special training grounds and achieve a scientific breakthrough than transferring high technology to uneducated beards.
          Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
          3. The fact of the matter is that everything on the contracts and contacts and the contacting countries are independent and the Arabs are still shifters - double-dealing with kafirs is not a sin. In a muddy environment, everything is easier.

          Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
          3. The fact of the matter is that everything on the contracts and contacts and the contacting countries are independent and the Arabs are still shifters - double-dealing with kafirs is not a sin. In a muddy environment, everything is easier.

          What's easier? What nonsense are you writing? Do you understand what you are talking about? Look at the facts and think a little. The same oil has risen in price 10 times in "troubled waters". Despite the fact that the United States was the main exporter. The indirect damage caused by the rise in prices for imports of natural resources exceeded the very costs of the war in Iraq. The Arab Spring only exacerbated these trends. The national debt is a consequence of such muddy games.
          Quote: Andrey Ulyanovsky
          4. And what is more profitable for Israel, consolidated Muslims (remember the Arab-Israeli conflicts 67, 73) or a heaping bunch of spiders into which you can plant something under the guise?

          There has never been a consolidated Arab world. Even during the first crusades. Israel benefits when everything is calm. Now he is surrounded by powder kegs and is forced to increase spending on security, which weakens the economy and the state in the future.
  26. +3
    10 December 2013 17: 45
    Everything is more than logical.
    It remains to add that Syria and Iraq are a good market for arms sales (not to mention the modernization and repair of such). Plus, the Navy base as a strategic bridgehead for the merchant fleet. Plus, the presence of our technologies for the development of ocean oil and gas shelfs (take, at least, an example of Vietnam).
    Consequently, the strengthening of the Russian Federation in Syria and Iraq> mutually beneficial capital investments in the region in the oil and gas sector> The West is in the ass (we will see their frenzy with impotence, as in Venezuela).
    It's simple.
  27. +2
    10 December 2013 18: 18
    Why shouldn't the Americans hire bearded men for Afghanistan? I do not mean the entire United States with the president, but there is an organization there that, according to rumors, can crash its president and destroy a couple of houses with a directional explosion (the list of feats is endless). A "good" story can come out. Karzai asks the Americans to get out in 2014, they are slowly leaving, there is a thousand left, suddenly at night she is cut out by spooks. What is the president doing? Returns troops, and the United States remains in the region forever. This is the first thing. Secondly: all these bandits, dushmans, Taliban can be used to destabilize the situation on the borders with the former Soviet republics. One of our divisions in Turkmenistan simply cannot cope with a large number of militants. And hostilities will begin, the United States will begin to climb already to us to the very border.
  28. 0
    10 December 2013 18: 25
    something tells me that the author of the article put a minus to the article
    “The Western Allies are negotiating with the Syrian Islamists. Who will be their next victim? ”
    ))))))
  29. +2
    10 December 2013 18: 56
    The author is clearly extremely optimistic about the situation in the Syrian economy.
  30. 0
    10 December 2013 19: 29
    Kerry minus put the article laughing
  31. +2
    10 December 2013 19: 41
    I absolutely agree with the last paragraph of the article! Nowadays a thinking person is no good. You can't hang noodles on his ears, you can't force him to buy what is imposed by the "zomboyaschik". And he does not "hawala" what is being imposed on him. Here is such an unprofitable "People". These are the only ones that melt more and more every year , disappearing into oblivion along with the era that forced to read books and developed thinking, and replaced by those who, taking into account the words of Otto von Bismarck, will destroy what we still somehow preserve ... request
  32. kair_kz
    +3
    10 December 2013 20: 12
    Yes, in our time it is so difficult to consider the truth behind the powerful currents of propaganda of lies and hypocrisy of the Western media. And this has no end to the last centuries ..
  33. kair_kz
    +2
    10 December 2013 20: 14
    our strength in truth®
  34. +3
    10 December 2013 22: 08
    I liked the article, the author is a thinking person. I am a simple person and it’s hard for me to see the intricacies of events that change almost immediately, it’s not always possible to take a look from the outside, and such articles prompt me to look at some things differently, or rather not to see otherwise, but to see something else. By the way, comments on the article today are also very interesting.
  35. typhoon7
    +3
    10 December 2013 22: 34
    A good article, well, correctly and convincingly presented. Good analytics, thanks Alexander +.
  36. +2
    10 December 2013 23: 35
    good article good
  37. standby
    +2
    10 December 2013 23: 35
    Thoroughly, competently! Thanks to the author!
  38. +2
    10 December 2013 23: 54
    I liked the article + it’s good that Russia did not stand aside and thanks to this I think it turned out to direct the river in the right direction. Can we stop being silent with regard to Ukraine? the West is arrogant to it already derbanit, Psheks and Germans walk around the Maidan, call for European integration
  39. +1
    11 December 2013 09: 55
    Well done author, a good article. But our people will harass this bullshit for a long time, because for 20 years there has been a systematic dulling of our people. In schools, the hours of literature, mathematics and history are reduced, but the hours of Belarusian Railways, physical education, and labor are increased. Teach children not to think and analyze, but to guess. For more adults, they have been broadcasting for decades DOM2, various dances-Schnants with asterisks.