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British journalists bring Ukraine to the Customs Union insomnia

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Deep in the night (Moscow time), from Friday to Saturday, one small record appeared on the Web, which caused an effect close to the bomb breaking. The author of this record, made, by the way, not even on one of the bands of his publication, but in his own Twitter account, was Edward Lucas, the chief editor of The Economist magazine. Translated into Russian, the entry is as follows:


Wow! I heard that today in Sochi, Yanukovych signed a strategic agreement with Russia, including 5 billion dollars in advance, the price of gas in $ 200 plus an agreement on joining the Customs Union.


British journalists bring Ukraine to the Customs Union insomnia
Edward Lucas (man who is not let go by the Cold War)


The word “heard” in this case, of course, suspiciously resembles the option “one grandma said,” but Edward Lucas in his twitter account continued to give out information about Viktor Yanukovych’s visit to Sochi (after a visit to China) and his next meeting with Vladimir Putin, which continued several hours.

In his next post, the editor-in-chief of The Economist magazine stated that the total amount of the loan from Russia to Ukraine could be about 15 billion euros. In addition, Lucas urged to expect similar messages from Vladimir Putin in the near future, as well as an angry reaction in Ukraine (with the dispersal of rallies).

After that, messages like the following appeared to Edward Lucas: Edward, is it you? Maybe your Twitter account has been subjected to a hacker attack, and someone gives an obvious misinformation?

To this the person (say in a somewhat conspiracy key), hiding behind the account of journalist Edward Lucas, answered literally the following:

My account has not been hacked. I was on a plane for the last 3 hours. I hope that what I heard is not true. But I'm afraid that is true. Sources are good.


Then the same Lucas cites another source, which, in his opinion, confirms the rumors reached him about the deal between Viktor Yanukovych and Vladimir Putin. As such a source, the journalist calls the publication “GlobalPost”, in which, with references to the Reuters agency, materials are published that allegedly a deal between Kiev and Moscow took place. However, this publication does not take responsibility for the published materials, using a somewhat streamlined speech flow of the form:

The Yanukovych government seems to have struck a deal with Putin, including to supply cheap Russian gas and possibly loans, in exchange for avoiding an EU deal that would usher in historical shift of Ukraine to the west.


The terms "it seems" and "possibly" do not add credibility, but they speak of more than keen interest of the West to the Ukrainian topic, which by and large, the West should be concerned to a minimum. And if you care, and if the information is given out so vividly, it means that Yanukovych exactly touched "someone" for living with his Sochi route and the very turn from European integration to 180 degrees.

In the record, made approximately in the morning around Moscow on 5, Edward Lucas again notes that the deal is aimed at the possible entry of Ukraine into the Customs Union, and this should, according to a British journalist, take place by the year 2015. Namely, the next presidential election is scheduled for the 2015 year in Ukraine.

Interestingly, Wikipedia has already managed to build a material that is dedicated, no less, to candidates for the presidency in Ukraine in 2015. In addition to the current Ukrainian president, such ladies and gentlemen as Yulia Tymoshenko, Oleg Tyagnibok, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Vitali Klitschko, Oleg Lyashko, Petr Simonenko and Igor Markov are assigned here. This material on Wikipedia gives a reason to think that now, at least, the followers of the Vanga case are working on this Internet resource ... Well, this is a kind of lyrical digression.

Let's return to the information that Lucas gave out on his Twitter. By the way, in this respect, the British journalist held a win-win game. It is unknown with whom he spoke on the plane, and how this unknown person knew about Putin’s agreements with Yanukovych in Sochi is unclear, but the information was distributed around the world almost instantly, causing a discussion that was rich in emotions.

Unless, of course, to prevent the fact that Edward Lucas had all the information about gas for 200 dollars and 15-billion aid promised to Moscow by Moscow, simply invented for the new "warm-up" of Ukrainian oppositionists, then it turns out that conversations at the meetings of Vladimir Putin and Viktor Yanukovych is not so secret. Well, in fact, it turns out that there are some "good sources" from the same Economist, which give all the details of the conversation in amazing detail. If there really are such sources, then it is time to either talk again about the ubiquitous wiretapping by Western intelligence agencies, or to speculate about the presence of “missed Cossacks” arranging loud plums ...

On the other hand, the information itself, issued by a British journalist, is definitely not sensational either. After all, there are no naive people who believed that at the EU summit in Vilnius, Yanukovych refused to sign an association agreement with the European Union just like that ... He literally took and simply refused because of some purely personal political convictions ... Of course, Kiev was promised certain preferences from Russia, at least, in order for Kiev to feel the potential economic benefits from close cooperation with Russia and the Customs Union. And here the talk in the style of “Moscow bought Kiev, did not buy Kiev” is not substantive, because the world economy is a set of trade deals that one may like and at the same time cause itchy skin in others. Profit is the main component of any modern contacts. And it always has been. There were, of course, variants of the romantic economy, when profits and benefits were only concomitant links of integration, but in the end all the same, the situation was slipping into a choice of contacts that were “fatter”, “obese” and “sweeter”.

"Resting" about 7 hours, the twitter account of the same Edward Lucas revived again. This time there appeared a link to the resource for-ua.com, in which attention is paid to the speech of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov.

Azarov:

Our President, returning from China, made a stop in Sochi, where the meeting took place, about which an agreement was reached in advance. We are talking about the preparation of a large agreement on strategic partnership with the Russian Federation, the annex to which will be the so-called road map, eliminating our contradictions in the trade and economic regimes. Including the President continues to work on the formation of our relations in the gas sector.


Mykola Azarov notes that at this time work is being done aimed at achieving contradictions related to contracts for Russian gas for Ukraine.

Commenting on this, the editor-in-chief of The Economist states that at night he did not manage to sleep, as he thought:
how important it is now for the Ukrainian opposition to make the right conclusion for themselves, not only by putting pressure on Yanukovich, but also by offering him a way out.


At the same time, Lucas adds that "Azarov seeks to crack down" (apparently, according to Lucas, with the opposition).

After all this, Lucas (the British editor-in-chief) simply becomes a pity: the poor fellow does not sleep at night, everything is thinking about how to solve the political and economic problems of Ukraine, he is so happy for her entry into the “single European family” ... You do not save yourself, Edward, everything think about Ukraine ... And it looks a bit strange, given that Lucas is a British subject. For some reason, his personal, full-fledged integration (well, at least monetary) of the UK with the European Union is less of a concern than all the Ukrainian perturbations associated with “European integration”. Why? ..

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian opposition, having caught a new message from the Western sponsors of their protests, has already begun new boiling ups. The tendency is clear: the information is presented under a spicy British sauce, the “recommendations” of the Ukrainian opposition are given through the Network, these recommendations, excuse me, “hawala” - and the orange soul rushed into paradise ...
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  1. Canep
    Canep 9 December 2013 08: 13
    12
    That's where the legs grow from this story about Ukraine in the TS about 5 lards (already untwisted up to 15) of a loan and about gas for 200 bucks.
    Peskov clearly said VFJ and VFJ did not agree on anything. But the Swedish media a day after this statement by Peskov issued a "sensation" to the mountain from credible sources (who is more trustworthy in this situation, Peskov, or this source in my opinion is clear) that Ukraine goes to the Customs Union for 15 billion in loans and gas for $ 200 ... And on the Maidan they immediately began to shout that Yanuca had sold Ukraine.
    1. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 9 December 2013 08: 22
      20
      "But I'm afraid it's true. The sources are good."
      He has good crap. Holland is nearby! hi
      1. 755962
        755962 9 December 2013 10: 47
        +2
        Sources are good.


        .... to the studio!
      2. StolzSS
        StolzSS 9 December 2013 17: 37
        +2
        Yeah, in style, we blew it with Yurtz and gave birth to 3 brothers from the casket from the casket))) However, they completely went off the roof the way they needed wassat
    2. Civil
      Civil 9 December 2013 08: 26
      36
      The State Department works perfectly, throwing firewood on the fire of the Maydan on time.
      We are waiting for when it comes about the advancing tanks from Russia.
      When the Black Sea Fleet type captured Sevastopol :-) :-) :-) :-).
      1. lelyk72
        lelyk72 9 December 2013 12: 08
        10
        for "maydanutyh" a separate plus
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 9 December 2013 14: 15
        +8
        Quote: Civil
        The State Department works perfectly, throwing firewood on the fire of the Maydan on time.
        We are waiting for when it comes about the advancing tanks from Russia.
        When the Black Sea Fleet type captured Sevastopol :-) :-) :-) :-).

        Angles in their element, crap as they can. Remember Chechnya, bitches lit up. there specifically. Now in Little Russia they are crap.
      3. AVV
        AVV 9 December 2013 22: 35
        +3
        If it’s not possible to maintain a bonfire in the east, then the State Department decided to fix its image in Europe, only it’s not possible to hide its pig’s snout, and with the naked eye it’s clear that the European mandates are strictly following the instructions descended from the west, and they don’t hide when they themselves are personally present at all these so-called events !!! They don’t have a simple thing to do with them !!!
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 December 2013 08: 29
      25
      Quote: Canep
      Peskov clearly said GDP and VFJ did not agree on anything

      Recently, Yanukovych hasn’t gotten out of Putin, it’s December 17th that they’ve gathered to sign something, and on December 19th something is planned in the Customs Union. What they are telling us will not be told. Anyway, Ukraine will join the CU, it’s a matter of time, but now it doesn’t make sense.
      1. Canep
        Canep 9 December 2013 09: 19
        20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Yanukovych pisses to give the order to Golden eagle to pile maidanutymi
        If he does not disperse this pigsty, then in the future Ukraine will fall to pieces, as the USSR fell apart.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 December 2013 09: 41
          +7
          Quote: Canep
          then in the future Ukraine will fall to pieces as the USSR collapsed.

          Yes, and so there is no single Ukraine that is falling apart. It will fall apart as soon as some politician says it out loud.
          1. maxcor1974
            maxcor1974 9 December 2013 10: 36
            +7
            Totally agree with you. Ukraine now resembles Poland of the 18 century, with its discord and quarrels. No wonder political scientists do not rule out the possibility of its collapse into the 3 parts: East, West, Crimea. As at that time in Poland, Ukrainian politicians are more concerned about their own selfish interests, and not about the interests of the country and people. Spit on them. The main thing is to cut the grandmother ...
            1. mealnik2005
              mealnik2005 9 December 2013 12: 41
              17
              The main thing in this situation is not to tear Crimea and the eastern part.
              1. Siberian
                Siberian 9 December 2013 20: 17
                +6
                Albert! We won’t slander Crimea. All alert. Ours are not asleep. stop But seriously, everything will be fine.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 9 December 2013 20: 59
                  12
                  Quote: Siberian
                  Albert! We won’t slander Crimea. All alert. Ours are not asleep. stop But seriously, everything will be fine.


                  I also think so, two hundred thousand aggressive lovers of synthetic lace underpants, including Klitschko, are not yet a reason to deviate from the law.
                  Interestingly mole Georgian lace panties eats, or just ties.
                  1. AVV
                    AVV 9 December 2013 22: 42
                    +3
                    Moth Georgian, having drunk cowards with dust, will improve his health, for a glass of Borjomi !!! If she is not attracted to Georgia, and there is something for that !!! Then they will correspond with Julia on Twitter !!!
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 9 December 2013 23: 57
                      +3
                      Quote: AVV
                      Moth Georgian, having drunk cowards with dust, will improve his health, for a glass of Borjomi !!! If she is not attracted to Georgia, and there is something for that !!! Then they will correspond with Julia on Twitter !!!

                      Do we have or let’s say in independent Ossetia there are no complaints against him? After all, is he guilty of a bunch of deaths, or does he have a deep status?
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          3. morpex
            morpex 9 December 2013 16: 55
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            It will fall apart as soon as some politician says it out loud.

            All Ukrainian politicians are constantly shouting about it! And not only of Ukraine. And Russia, too. But for some reason it does not fall. It’s not profitable for them to bring it down. Together with Ukraine, shadow frauds with gas and other, other, other will also fall apart.
        2. Fin
          Fin 9 December 2013 10: 37
          11
          Quote: Canep
          If he does not disperse this pigsty, then in the future Ukraine will fall to pieces, as the USSR fell apart.

          Oh well. The East, the Crimea is in the Customs Union, and the West where it wants to still not cure him. The Poles can’t wait for the Ukrainian plumbers to wait, their own have been dumped to the West.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 9 December 2013 12: 54
            +7
            Quote: Fin
            The Poles can’t wait for the Ukrainian plumbers to wait, their own have been dumped to the West.

            Most likely the Poles are waiting for REPATRIATIONS, when Ukraine (at least part of it is Western) clings to Europe. Here our "gayropeytsy" will dance!
            1. Siberian
              Siberian 9 December 2013 19: 23
              +1
              Most likely the Poles are waiting for repatriation
              . Most likely the Poles will not wait for this, their sponge will crack. And they have many ambitions. Although the Polish authorities themselves do not count on this, only incitement comes, from under the teshka, etc. etc.....
          2. morpex
            morpex 9 December 2013 16: 57
            +1
            Quote: Fin
            The Poles can’t wait for the Ukrainian plumbers to wait, their own have been dumped to the West.

            They, plumbers, have long been there. Not an argument ...
            1. AVV
              AVV 9 December 2013 22: 56
              +3
              If Ukraine in Russia was considered the outskirts of Provoslavia and a single state, then in the west it will be just an extreme latrine at the request of Interested Politicians, and as a result, the West will force the model of Kosovo to recognize the Crimean Tatars as an independent state !!! The Orthodox will never get membership in the European Union , as well as Turkish Muslims !!! Just because they’re not Catholics !!! That's the thing !!!
        3. matross
          matross 9 December 2013 16: 50
          +1
          Quote: Canep
          If he does not disperse this pigsty, then in the future Ukraine will fall to pieces, as the USSR fell apart.

          Maybe this is his goal now. Unable to unite the sane majority with the slobbery Galicians, to split the latter off to be eaten by the Eurogyans, and to preserve himself as a policy through rapprochement with Russia, up to a union like the Union of Russia and Belarus?
      2. Sour
        Sour 9 December 2013 09: 27
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine will enter the TC anyway, a matter of time

        I don’t see a politician in Ukraine who could bring the country to the CU, and I don’t see the forces that will support it.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 December 2013 09: 43
          +5
          Quote: Sour
          I don’t see a politician in Ukraine who could lead the country to the Customs Union

          But Yanukovych has no choice, in the EU he is not considered a person. He has one way to the TS, but he trades like a cheap woman.
          1. Sour
            Sour 9 December 2013 09: 49
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            in the EU they don’t consider him a person.

            They count, they do not count - these are lyrics. The EU was ready to sign an association agreement with Ukraine already at the Vilnius summit, and did not sign it at all not because "the EU does not consider Yanukovych a person," but because Yanukovych himself refused. Europe will sign this agreement at any time, because it does not bind Europe to anything. So your confidence in the inevitable entry of Ukraine into the CU, in my opinion, has not the slightest foundation. On the contrary, I believe that this will not happen.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 9 December 2013 09: 57
              +9
              Quote: Sour
              On the contrary, I believe that this will not happen.

              About three months ago, he said that the association with the EU would not be signed and it was not signed.
              Now I’m telling you that Ukraine will be in the TS ...... And it will be there !!!
              1. Fin
                Fin 9 December 2013 10: 39
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                About three months ago, he said that the association with the EU would not be signed and it was not signed.

                The first was Fidget.
                1. smile
                  smile 9 December 2013 16: 36
                  +3
                  Fin
                  Well, Egoza is a well-known clever woman, no one encroaches on her laurels, it's useless. :)))
              2. Sour
                Sour 9 December 2013 10: 48
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Now I’m telling you that Ukraine will be in the TS ...... And it will be there !!!

                Wait and see. Personally, I do not just doubt your forecast, but I’m even sure of the opposite. Ukraine will never join the CU. Not with Yanukovych, nor with anyone else.
                1. Jogan-xnumx
                  Jogan-xnumx 9 December 2013 11: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: Sour
                  Ukraine will never join the CU. Not with Yanukovych, nor with anyone else.

                  Hmm ... But what about the CPU? They always had the most coherent and pragmatic program for the development of Ukraine, rather than expanding the pockets of the oligarchs ...
                  1. smile
                    smile 9 December 2013 16: 38
                    +2
                    Jogan-xnumx
                    But does the Communist Party have a chance to determine the policy of Ukraine?
                    1. Corsair
                      Corsair 9 December 2013 17: 03
                      +3
                      Quote: smile
                      Jogan-xnumx
                      But does the Communist Party have a chance to determine the policy of Ukraine?

                      Welcome smile!
                      Naturally, the CPU, which is present in the Rada as an OPPOSITION force, cannot influence the political processes. But at the same time, "opposition" does not prevent this party from being a TECHNICAL ALLY of the authorities to counter certain manifestations of destabilization in the country.

                      Here it is for sure: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend (in this case, situational)"
                2. Bigriver
                  Bigriver 9 December 2013 12: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: Sour
                  ... Ukraine will never join the TS ...

                  Not a mantraved, of course smile
                  In the option of leaving the EU, the situation froze on a rigidly principled position: either the EU will compensate for the loss of Russian markets, or there will be a social explosion associated with the collapse of the economy of the eastern regions.
                  Western ethics does not allow compensation for the EU: they are used to living at the expense of others.
                  And without compensation, Yanukovych will not live to see 2015. Yes, and Ukraine, as a formally united state.
                  So, most likely, if accession to the Customs Union, if it does, it will only be in the format of another state.
                3. heathen
                  heathen 9 December 2013 12: 37
                  +1
                  I don’t know what your confidence is based on. For the time being, I dare to hope otherwise.
                4. Egoza
                  Egoza 9 December 2013 13: 01
                  10
                  Quote: Sour
                  Ukraine will never join the CU. Not with Yanukovych, nor with anyone else.

                  Come in, come in! Spite the zapadentsev! laughing
                  1. Canep
                    Canep 9 December 2013 13: 45
                    +3
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Come in, come in! Spite the zapadentsev! laughing

                    Lizba out of pieces Ukraine went to the vehicle. If the country falls apart, then a bloody mess of civil war awaits Ukraine, as in Yugoslavia.
                  2. Scoun
                    Scoun 9 December 2013 15: 02
                    +5
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Spite the zapadentsev!

                    and the main slogan of the Westerners "Europe! European culture! European purity!
                    and after all, none of them will hint at what specifically they were not waiting for and are not waiting for, but only the resources of their COUNTRY are waiting for!
                    PS.
                    The trash of Naples, the Dutch pedophiles, West European Africans, Muslims and the good Polish plumbers in general, the unemployed Slavs of the EU and to some extent dissolved in the English-French-Saxon environment.
                    1. Sour
                      Sour 9 December 2013 19: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: Scoun
                      European culture! European cleanliness!

                      I advise them to go to Naples (I have been there), they will see such "purity" there that Mama does not cry.
                      Yes, and Rome is not far away. My Nizhny Novgorod will be cleaner than Rome, I assure you. If we compare the city center with the center, and the outskirts with the outskirts.
                      And so much garbage on the roadsides, as in Italy, in Russia has long been gone.
                      So membership in the EU (and even more so an association) does not give anything if you don’t get down to business.
              3. Kolya
                Kolya 9 December 2013 11: 39
                +5
                Only bring Ukraine to the vehicle should not Yanukovych and Azarov, but someone else. Otherwise, it will be a disservice to Russia, and then it will come out sideways.
                1. Sour
                  Sour 9 December 2013 17: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Kohl
                  Only to bring Ukraine to the vehicle should not Yanukovych and Azarov, but someone else

                  "Someone else" is Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnibok.
                  There are no other alternatives to Yanukovych and Azarov in Ukraine.
                  Why do I claim that Ukraine will never enter the CU... If Yanyk does not join, then his "alternatives" all the more.
              4. Mature naturalist
                Mature naturalist 9 December 2013 11: 40
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                About three months ago I spoke ...
                I'm telling you now ...

                Alexander, can you tell me the winning numbers of Sportloto? :)
                If without jokes, then I think that you are right - where will they go to FIG?
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              6. Grandson of Veteran
                Grandson of Veteran 9 December 2013 22: 27
                +3
                "About three months ago, I said that the association with the EU would not be signed and it was not signed.
                Now I'm telling you that Ukraine will be in the Customs Union ...... And it will be there !!! "

                It seems that under the nickname "Alexander Romanov" Lavrov became a legend. laughing
            2. Scoun
              Scoun 9 December 2013 14: 21
              +4
              Quote: Sour
              The EU was ready to sign an association agreement with Ukraine at the Vilnius Summit

              The fact that the EU was ready to sign the agreement .. this is just not Ukraine’s achievement, the Ukrainian industry would die like a shipyard in Gdansk / Poland and therefore they squeal that their finished piece of fried Ukraine made a feint by the mouth of the bourgeois.
              Quote: Sour
              and did not sign at all not because "the EU does not consider Yanukovych a person"

              The fact that the EU does not consider Yanukovych to be a person is nonsense .. the bad thing is that Europe considers the people of Ukraine a resource and the killing of Ukraine’s industry - an extension of the enrichment area for its industry and corporations.
          2. smile
            smile 9 December 2013 16: 34
            0
            Alexander Romanov
            :))) That's right, he is bargaining because he hopes that he will be perceived as a dear woman ... elite, so to speak ... :))) Only the years have gone ... "tools" have become old .... the woman came out in circulation .... such a feeling. that he was paraffinized in front of enemies and allies, and applying makeup on his faded charms is too late ... :)))
          3. morpex
            morpex 9 December 2013 17: 02
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But Yanukovych has no choice, in the EU he is not considered a person. He has one way to the TS, but he trades like a cheap woman.

            You might think it in the TS per person is considered .. laughing
            It seems to me the criteria of his policy are as follows. In the morning he wakes up facing west, the EU reflex is triggered. The next day, facing east. The TS reflex is triggered. I wonder what will happen if the bed is expanded? What will come of this? laughing
          4. AVV
            AVV 9 December 2013 23: 05
            0
            With more diversity, he has no other choice !!! They put an end to him in the West, so they wanted to pull Yulia out too !!! But Yanukovych still wants to steer a little !!! Only if he isn’t forced to meet him at the meeting of former presidents, the president’s duties are voluntary !!! But then he will be completely inadequate !!! After that, he will be placed in a neighboring cell with Julia !!!
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 9 December 2013 12: 58
          +7
          Quote: Sour
          I don’t see a politician in Ukraine who could bring the country to the CU, and I don’t see the forces that will support it.

          Medvedchuk and KPU. That's all for now. And when choosing - east, south, Crimea they will be supported (although there are also Judas). Especially if they hold a referendum.
          1. morpex
            morpex 9 December 2013 17: 07
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            Medvedchuk and KPU.

            Why do we need another KUM? We have enough of ours. KPU? Maybe. But not in the composition that is now .. Reload and clean. Then yes.
          2. Sour
            Sour 9 December 2013 17: 41
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            Medvedchuk and KPU. Bye all

            Even with good promotion and maximum funding, they will, I think, gain no more than 15%. About how we have the Communist Party. As far as I know, from the Communist Party there are no single-mandate deputies in the Rada, even from the Crimea or another region of the Southeast. This is also indicative.
          3. kaktus
            kaktus 10 December 2013 05: 55
            +1
            "And sedition grows between the princes,
            and is not visible from the princes of good " negative
        3. Ustian
          Ustian 9 December 2013 21: 12
          +2
          Quote: Sour
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ukraine will enter the TC anyway, a matter of time

          I don’t see a politician in Ukraine who could bring the country to the CU, and I don’t see the forces that will support it.

          Well offhand, take at least the former People's Deputy from the Party of Regions faction Igor Markov. sad
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      4. morpex
        morpex 9 December 2013 16: 51
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        WFN n

        In a rhyme like that. WFJA got WafLU. Accent on the last bug. laughing
      5. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 10 December 2013 04: 36
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Recently, Yanukovych hasn’t gotten out of Putin, it’s December 17th that they’ve gathered to sign something, and on December 19th something is planned in the Customs Union. What they are telling us will not be told. Anyway, Ukraine will join the CU, it’s a matter of time, but now it doesn’t make sense.

        I would say that he is waiting. Firstly, to collect more materials on oranges, secondly, so that they specifically get the people of Kiev. And thirdly, he wants firm guarantees from Russia that when he jumps into the vehicle they did not eat with giblets.
    4. ele1285
      ele1285 9 December 2013 09: 18
      10
      Quote: Canep
      Edward Lucas, chief editor of The Economist.

      The second oldest profession in the West has long been the first.
      1. Canep
        Canep 9 December 2013 09: 20
        12
        Often in the West these two professions are skillfully combined.
      2. AVV
        AVV 9 December 2013 23: 13
        0
        After Ukraine joins the Eurozone, it may not be the last in Ukraine !!! Judging by the gestures that some politicians have been making recently in relation to Russia, including the European Union !!!
    5. mirag2
      mirag2 9 December 2013 09: 22
      +2
      If the contract was then this is a sale. And what's wrong with that?
      Yes, Ukraine itself was looking for someone to sell more expensive, they demanded 160 billion euros from the EU, but they gave only one, no, it won’t work, Russia gave 5? Well, it will.
      The association is a political issue, and the payment for it is economically tangible.
    6. Alex toll
      Alex toll 9 December 2013 12: 46
      +6
      Oh, and on the Maidan ......... All on .... to Geyropu to the grooves and leave at the border, do not let home - so you want - Get out! Wow someone, then the Arabs who have already secured the streets there sweep ................
    7. Scoun
      Scoun 9 December 2013 14: 08
      +5
      Quote: Canep
      But the Swedish media a day after this statement by Peskov issued a "sensation" to the mountain from credible sources

      Damn .. "and laughter and sin."
      This is some kind of tryndets ... listen to Edward Lucas = listen to Novodvorskaya guilt ...
      By the way, the author of this entry, made not even on one of the pages of his publication, but in his own Twitter account, was Edward Lucas, editor-in-chief of The Economist magazine.

      Interesting .... and if something had tweeted on his page, old Glucksman?
      Meanwhile, the Ukrainian opposition, having caught a new message from Western sponsors of its protests, has already embarked on new rages.

      I am afraid that such a message will soon be and there will be a shot from "nowhere", they will blame the authorities and go to "overthrow" the dictatorial regime .......
      1. AVV
        AVV 9 December 2013 23: 22
        +1
        It’s kind of starting to look like Syria, but without fighting, the fighting, and very fierce, are now going for the pro-Orthodox people of Ukraine on the Internet !!! Nobody wants to let him down, as the Geyropeans want to do !!!
    8. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 10 December 2013 04: 34
      0
      Quote: Canep
      That's where the legs grow from this story about Ukraine in the TS about 5 lards (already untwisted up to 15) of a loan and about gas for 200 bucks.
      Peskov clearly said VFJ and VFJ did not agree on anything. But the Swedish media a day after this statement by Peskov issued a "sensation" to the mountain from credible sources (who is more trustworthy in this situation, Peskov, or this source in my opinion is clear) that Ukraine goes to the Customs Union for 15 billion in loans and gas for $ 200 ... And on the Maidan they immediately began to shout that Yanuca had sold Ukraine.

      But on the other hand, everyone understands where Ukraine is going. All this fuss with Europe, until the first real fucking. Moreover, they also agreed at the last meeting. And there is no trade, the terms of entry were announced even earlier. So no sensation happened. Just ahead of time they began to rage. I think the deal will be officially announced closer to spring.
    9. Siberian German
      Siberian German 10 December 2013 05: 19
      0
      yes let the guy write - he must earn money somehow - and journalists are sometimes sold as prostitutes
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 December 2013 08: 20
    11
    Anglo-Saxons for Ukraine "worry" on any provocations will go!
  3. Ihrek
    Ihrek 9 December 2013 08: 29
    +7
    In Ukraine, the real threat of civil war and its dismemberment. The West will do everything for this, but it has not become closer to Russia.
    1. heathen
      heathen 9 December 2013 12: 53
      +6
      The dismemberment of Ukraine is not at all beneficial to the West. Why do they need subsidized, producing nothing, but always something dissatisfied, violent Carpathians? The rich and densely populated eastern regions are of interest to Europeans. Nah, they will not agree to the collapse of Ukraine.
      It would be beneficial for Russia to get rid of the pro-fascist western regions of Ukraine, having given them to Europe, and to include the rest of Ukraine in the zone of its influence.
      1. garlik
        garlik 9 December 2013 13: 37
        +3
        Yes, just chaos. Controlled chaos. Heard from otakom hi
        1. Sour
          Sour 9 December 2013 17: 45
          0
          Quote: garlik
          Yes, just chaos. Controlled chaos

          Managed chaos does not pay debts. And this is an important moment.
          Here everyone is preoccupied with geopolitics, but they only remember about the economy when they prove the advantages of the Customs Union. And the West has its own economic reasons. They do not need chaos in Ukraine, they need to ruin the country as much as possible, to pump out everything that is possible from it in order to repay loans. In the conditions of chaos you will not return much. The West needs an obedient regime in Kiev, not chaos.
      2. Ihrek
        Ihrek 9 December 2013 14: 59
        +4
        Europe understands that Ukraine will not get it, therefore, as a retreating enemy, he will try to destroy the country according to the principle "if not us, then no one." I think 3 categories of people have gathered on the Maidan. 1. People do not understand what will happen after the association with the EU.
        2. People who paid.
        3. Outright enemies of Ukraine and Russia.
        All this is used by politicians who are eager for power at all costs, which do not give a damn about Ukraine and its people as well as Europe.
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      4. Ustian
        Ustian 9 December 2013 21: 26
        +1
        Quote: heathen
        Nah, they will not agree to the collapse of Ukraine.

        The wealth of Ukraine led his to the delight: “Where else is there an area capable of producing iron that would be equal in quality to Ukrainian? .. Ukraine has manganese, for which even America is turning to it. And besides, there are so many other possibilities! ”.Http: //school46.ho.ua/gazeta/01.html
        The West is now pursuing the same "policy", only not by military methods. Not by military ones yet.
      5. Rusich51
        Rusich51 9 December 2013 23: 17
        +1
        Quote: heathen


        The West operates according to the principle - in spite of the conductor I will buy a ticket and go on foot.
      6. Vasek
        Vasek 9 December 2013 23: 42
        +1
        Quote: heathen
        The dismemberment of Ukraine is not at all beneficial to the West.


        Not true. Managed chaos in a buffer country is always strategically more beneficial to the West than a stable, developed state (all the more closely connected with Russia).
        The rule "Divide and Conquer" has not yet been canceled.
    2. AVV
      AVV 9 December 2013 23: 31
      +1
      This is the whole history of Russia, proof of this, they are the Anglo-Saxon lads ready for everything, as she has repeatedly acted, poisoned politicians, removed the Emperors, went to forgeries, provocations, this is all the vile Angosaxon essence !!!
  4. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 9 December 2013 08: 33
    +7
    from the Don.
    Stretched: Nenko: to pieces, and let Yanuk soap the rope!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 9 December 2013 09: 29
      +5
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      Let Yanuk soap the rope!

      Yes, he hopes to soap one place repeat ... so to speak, to move away easily. Interesting: where is he going to spend the rest of his life? After all, the earth under your feet is already burning! Not in North Korea? It is from the answer to this question that its actions will depend ...
    2. AVV
      AVV 9 December 2013 23: 33
      +1
      Yes, and the rope will not be needed, enough that he will be dismissed, but the West does not love when he is refused !!!
  5. Good
    Good 9 December 2013 08: 38
    10
    How worried about the Opposition. Nightmares are dreaming. And the fact that Britain is talking about leaving the EU is forgotten. Let them worry about the referendum, they worry about the independence of Scotland.
    The poorer the country, and Ukraine is just that, the easier it is to carry out color revolutions. And the population suffers ... Another confirmation of the desire of the West (USA) for hegemony throughout the world, despite the victims. They do not care what wreaked havoc and war.
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 9 December 2013 23: 45
      +1
      Quote: Good
      For some reason, his personally full-fledged integration (well, at least monetary) of Great Britain with the European Union is less of a concern than all Ukrainian perturbations connected with "European integration". Why? ..

      And really, why?
  6. ReifA
    ReifA 9 December 2013 08: 39
    +6
    The journal is the same. Do not feed bread, but give a sensation. + Some representatives of these professions have a natural fear of fear and ushankaOphobia. And when he sees a Russian person, a jerk begins. I’m silent about Putin, even on TV. And live ...
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 9 December 2013 18: 28
      +2
      Chef, everything is lost !!! Plaster is removed, the client leaves !!!
      crying
      1. AVV
        AVV 9 December 2013 23: 39
        +1
        And in the morning they drink champagne, only aristocrats and degenerates !!! You just need to make the right move, so as not to be like the last !!! And put the awl in the ass !!! They are lovers of unconventional thrills !!!
  7. makarov
    makarov 9 December 2013 08: 53
    +6
    ".. The trend is clear: information is presented under a spicy British sauce," recommendations "of the Ukrainian opposition are given through the Network, and these recommendations, sorry," hawala "- and the orange soul rushed to heaven ..."

    So after all, not everyone eats spicy British sauce, most Ukrainians traditionally eat meat of their own production with classic horseradish and mustard. However, it’s kind of conservative ....
  8. just exp
    just exp 9 December 2013 09: 06
    +9
    British journalists, British scientists, British companies (Austin, opium wars), Britain gave at least something good to our world?
  9. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 9 December 2013 09: 07
    +9
    Russian tanks in Kiev ... next article of this bolabol ...
    1. lexat7
      lexat7 9 December 2013 09: 37
      +4
      Yes, balabol is notable. I looked at his statements http://www.inosmi.ru/russia/20130412/207988466.html
  10. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 9 December 2013 09: 32
    +9
    It is clear that this is just an attempt to throw a little gasoline into the fire, so that the process goes on more intensively, how do you think the crazy crowd will behave when they say this from the rostrum? They say "reliable sources", "sold the Motherland", etc., etc. In general, Yanukovych is in vain to hesitate with the dispersal of rallies, it will not bring anything good, what will he expect when the "peaceful" demonstrators will have real weapons? Now, while you can get by with little blood, the government is inactive, what is Yanukovych waiting for? For the European Union, he is now an enemy, he has betrayed Russia alone once, and once betrayed, he will betray again, maybe he is waiting for "who will offer him more money personally," in the end Gorbachev traded his homeland, why is he worse?
    1. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 9 December 2013 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      It is clear that this is just an attempt to throw a little gasoline into the fire, so that the process goes on more intensively, how do you think the crazy crowd will behave when they say this from the rostrum? They say "reliable sources", "sold the Motherland", etc., etc. In general, Yanukovych is in vain to hesitate with the dispersal of rallies, it will not bring anything good, what will he expect when the "peaceful" demonstrators will have real weapons? Now, while you can get by with little blood, the government is inactive, what is Yanukovych waiting for? For the European Union, he is now an enemy, he has betrayed Russia alone once, and once betrayed, he will betray again, maybe he is waiting for "who will offer him more money personally," in the end Gorbachev traded his homeland, why is he worse?

      while his behavior is very similar to "sitting marked in Foros", I got the impression that the Ukrainian government and its opposition are initially two parts of one team,
      it’s just that part of the government begins to realize the consequences and hesitates to go all the way.
  11. lotar
    lotar 9 December 2013 09: 43
    +6
    And I heard that this editor-in-chief of the magazine is a man of non-traditional orientation, someone said that he is a pedophile.
    1. SPLV
      SPLV 9 December 2013 10: 51
      +3
      Quote: lotar
      And I heard that this editor-in-chief of the magazine is a man of non-traditional orientation, someone said that he is a pedophile.

      This is what should be posted on Twitter. In general, "and I increasingly notice" that we are losing in the information war in Ukraine. We should have approached this issue more closely. I understand that the work of both the President and the Foreign Ministry has been carried out, fruitful, but this is not enough. How long will the pro-Russian lobby in Ukraine lose? Is it really so problematic to pass a law on NGOs, similar to the Russian one, in order to at least slightly pacify the Euro-oriented gentlemen from the western part of the country? It's time to brainwash the population, if flushing does not help - there is an enema.
      "It is good for a patient to give a stomach to rhubarb" (A.K. Tolstoy)
    2. AVV
      AVV 9 December 2013 23: 47
      +1
      That is why it is being baked so that it would expand its capabilities in Ukraine, and such magazines, in ancient Europe, at the stake of the Inquisition, would have been reserved !!!
  12. VadimSt
    VadimSt 9 December 2013 09: 53
    +7
    I don’t know how it looks from abroad, but for me, as a resident of Ukraine, than to endlessly look at the PR of these orange faces and nationalists, it’s better to let it fall apart faster! It makes no difference, to the west and east, or to the southeast and northwest. Got it already!
    1. POMA
      POMA 9 December 2013 11: 43
      10
      Ukraine doesn’t have to fall apart, on the contrary, this whole story can unite Ukraine, and there will be a leader who will still benefit the country, Russia does not need a weak state at its borders, but we will always have time to unite, just at the moment Russia itself needs to develop, then all by ourselves they will ask if Russia solves all its problems and seeing this, other former republics will pull themselves together and rally around the Russian Federation.
      But the European Union is not the choice of Ukraine. A simple life example:
      In 1996, an Estonian acquaintance opened a bakery in his home, went to St. Petersburg for flour, they have a higher price in Estonia, all the time reasoning: Russia has no time to be Europe, there are few trash bins, there are no toilets on the highway, garbage on the sides, while throwing empty packs in the window of the car, to my question you would have thrown in your own Estonia, he answered: "Why are there such big fines for this" (so I’ll distract myself a little, many Europeans also behave on vacation abroad, they don’t give a shit for this there are no fines )
      So now this Estonian opened a bakery in Russia in Estonia, closed it, says to my surprised face: Yes, there is corruption, it’s more difficult to do business, but if they have a profit of 11-15, then in Russia it’s 110-200, it’s more profitable to work even with all the costs and then they gave him money for development (one of ours doesn’t know, I’m saying right away go to the employment exchange there they give money for a small business, you need to provide only a business plan of up to 300 thousand) So now the Estonian shouts the fuck this EU has surrendered to me, only Germans live more or less there. He pulled out a Soviet passport, I’d better be a Russian baker than an Estonian janitor.
    2. heathen
      heathen 9 December 2013 12: 57
      +3
      There is a difference. Especially for those in the middle :)
  13. Temer
    Temer 9 December 2013 10: 29
    +3
    Mr. Lucas, when it seems - you have to be baptized !!!
    1. motorized rifle
      motorized rifle 9 December 2013 13: 53
      +3
      Well, yes, by the formula hat-eggs-wallet-watch.
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 December 2013 10: 31
    +2
    the poor fellow does not sleep at night, thinks all about how to solve the political and economic problems of Ukraine, is so happy for her joining the "united European family" ... Don’t you take care of yourself, Edward, you think about Ukraine ...


    They would have raked up their own at home. There is no need to go to others "with your own law." And then you look and you will get a migraine, for such thoughts, Mr. Lucas.
  15. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 9 December 2013 10: 55
    +3
    Stuffing Western politicians about 15 billion and gas at 200 is a dope for Ukrainian hamsters. I mean, if you behave badly (to rebel), then Yanukovych will agree with Putin and you won’t be shopping in Europe, you won’t go to our work as janitors and our brothels. In general, you need to try very hard for the association.
    1. AVV
      AVV 10 December 2013 00: 00
      +1
      And what kind of money do you want to go to :::?, Here even the State Department recommended that Ukrainians be allowed to enter Europe without visas. This is not called skating, the US is at stake in Ukraine, everything from prestige to the economy is at stake. the site went infa. that the United States prepared to send to Ukraine a large batch of chicken legs, and a huge number of genetically modified wheat and corn !!! It’s just not written, in what capacity, as humanitarian aid or how ???
  16. lukke
    lukke 9 December 2013 11: 17
    +4
    It seems even if some agreements with Yanukovych with the GDP on the prospects for Ukraine’s joining the CU have been reached, now they can’t be voiced in any case - there will be an effect like a lit match brought up to the barrel with gunpowder. Now Yanyk’s task No. 1 is to exhaust the Maidan, so that the opposition is tired of itself, and the undecided electorate is completely disappointed in this show. It seems so far so far as planned
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 9 December 2013 11: 58
      +5
      Britons are generally overgrown, not only do they get into their own affairs, interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine

      Media: British intelligence hunts for Snowden in Moscow
      LONDON, 8 DECEMBER. British intelligence MI-6 was given the task of stealing from Russia former CIA officer Edward Snowden and delivering it to the UK or the United States. This was stated by Uyen Madson, who himself worked in the past for the US National Security Agency, and is now a journalist investigating the activities of special services.
      more details http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/12/08/1208784.html
  17. morpogr
    morpogr 9 December 2013 12: 08
    +3
    Better let her write that after Obama’s call, England announced the abolition of visas with the entire European Union and Eastern European countries of Ukraine and Russia, as well as the rejection of the pound and the entry of the euro zone. The source is a proven drinking companion after a drunken stupor in an airplane. And it looked like this
  18. 128mgb
    128mgb 9 December 2013 12: 10
    +3
    The editor was on an airplane for three hours, flying in general wassat . Interestingly, at least a lip was protruding, depicting the sound of a motor?
  19. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 9 December 2013 12: 26
    +1
    Edward Lucas (man who is not let go by the Cold War)

    Maybe something else does not let him go? Or someone? laughing
  20. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 9 December 2013 13: 04
    +5
    Edward Lucas (man who is not let go by the Cold War)


    Hot milk with honey, calm music and tincture of motherwort ...
    Really, don’t worry so much ..
    And, my friend, on vacation !!!
    By all means, on vacation !!! laughing
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 10 December 2013 06: 00
      0
      Quote: lotar
      And I heard that this editor-in-chief of the magazine is a man of non-traditional orientation, someone said that he is a pedophile.


      Quote: Ivan Pomidorov
      And, my friend, on vacation !!!


      Maternity ??? wassat
  21. MG42
    MG42 9 December 2013 13: 21
    +3
    While Maidan is standing, Yanukovych’s government block is unlikely to dare to sign agreements with the CU, otherwise it will simply put the crowd on its hind legs, here it’s either a force scenario or it waits for the protesters to freeze, but the experience of the 2004 Orange Revolution suggests that the New Year will have to be celebrated to the music of rusty maidan barrels without the use of force and the introduction of emergency.
    1. andru_007
      andru_007 9 December 2013 15: 37
      +4
      Rumor has it that explosives were pulled into Kiev. I think the situation should be resolved before the end of the week ....
      1. MG42
        MG42 9 December 2013 16: 44
        +2
        Quote: andru_007
        Rumor has it that explosives were pulled into Kiev.

        It arrived the Crimean tiger on the rotation of the Kiev explosives
        Quote: andru_007
        I think the situation should be resolved before the end of the week

        Yanukovych gathers for the council of 4 presidents of Ukraine for tomorrow, Klitschko threw a cry so that the people of Kiev went to the Maidan, if there is such a crowd as nobody will disperse yesterday
        On the video the everyday life of a golden eagle that is guarded by the Cabinet of Ministers, the fighters sit and lie on the floor, at best in buses for days
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 9 December 2013 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: MG42
      however, the experience of the orange revolution 2004 suggests that the New Year will have to be met to the music of rusty maidan barrels without the use of force and the introduction of emergency.

      If something out of the ordinary happens ...
      1. AVV
        AVV 10 December 2013 00: 11
        +2
        The only question is who will and how will congratulate, and most importantly, the Ukrainian people on New Year's Eve !!! Klitschko from the armored car or the pedestal of the ousted Lenin or Yanukovych with good news for his state, and the people of Ukraine, is an intrigue No. 1 !!!
  22. lukke
    lukke 9 December 2013 13: 24
    0
    Quote: VadimSt
    I don’t know how it looks from abroad, but for me, as a resident of Ukraine, than to endlessly look at the PR of these orange faces and nationalists, it’s better to let it fall apart faster! It makes no difference, to the west and east, or to the southeast and northwest. Got it already!

    Figs would be with him, as if by the example of Czechoslovakia, but smacks of Yugoslavia ... And what to do with Kiev - a motley city like a rainbow
  23. homosum20
    homosum20 9 December 2013 14: 29
    +3
    The future life of the European Union to a large extent in the near future depends on whether it will be possible to plunder Ukraine or not. In the more distant - to create problems for Russia and through this still subscribe.
    Imagine the question is about your future and the future of your family. You wouldn’t sleep at night either.
    1. AVV
      AVV 10 December 2013 00: 16
      +2
      Come on, if you were taking care of the Family in its Orthodox understanding, otherwise the journalist would care for his non-traditional families, hell would burn in his orientation !!!
  24. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 9 December 2013 14: 33
    +9
    Once again I affirm that the real reason for the events on the Maidan is the struggle between the Yanyk and the oligarchs, this is an attempt by the Yanyk to repeat Putin's model of getting out of the power of the oligarchs. The oligarchs who brought him to power saw that the boy grew out of short pants and wanted to "own everything." Therefore, they are fighting against him, using their parties, as well as non-party people. Everything else is what it seems or, more simply, a cover operation. It is clear that in this troubled water both the states and the gamerope are trying to catch their fish. If Yanek breaks the oligarchs, all these "blows of freedom against Batkivshchyna" will disappear faster than the dirt in the advertisement for the detergent. Without money, these oppositionists mean nothing. If the opposite happens, then Ukraine leaves Russia far enough and the reason for this will not be the European choice, but the fear of the oligarchs to lose power, in the event of the arrival of a strong-willed president, supported by the Russian Federation. By controlling elections and changing the opposition, they can hold control for a long time. For reference, since the time of Kuchma, all real power in Ukraine belongs to a dozen families. Abroad understands this very well, therefore they support the opposition, but according to the rules of the game, everyone lies, EVERYTHING !!!! And no one will shout: "And the king is naked!" After all, if ordinary people understand the essence, then the Maidan will disperse, one party opposition will not be enough. The choice is really not great, either Janek, who is trying to become Putin and it is not yet known what will come of it, or the permanent power of the oligarchs, some kind of cunning nationality, leading to the subsequent degradation and death of the people, both its eastern and western parts. Truly, Glory to Ukraine! Loham Glory! Yes, the citizens of Ukraine will forgive me, but this is true, and there is no weapon against the truth!
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 9 December 2013 23: 57
      +1
      Quote: motorized infantryman
      repeat Putin’s model of secession from oligarchs

      Yes, he is far from Putin, and the eggs are soft - not that he would have dispersed all the loafers with slogans already a long time ago!
  25. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 9 December 2013 14: 35
    +2
    where the British, there is intrigue, intrigue, defamation, vile shots in the back and provocations.
  26. Ihrek
    Ihrek 9 December 2013 15: 12
    +4
    Yanukovych is to blame for this no less. Psychologically prepared people to join the EU. It was necessary to prepare people for entry into the vehicle. He didn’t have to take the Russian leadership to fright, he went to the last in relations with Europe. Realizing the futility of the chosen path stopped. Well, at least that was enough of a mind. And by and large, to preserve Ukraine, it must urgently unite with Russia, perhaps more closely than within the framework of the CU, or rather, return back to Russia. Otherwise, this billiard will never end.
  27. vanaheym
    vanaheym 9 December 2013 15: 44
    +4
    Oleg Lyashko as the president of Ukraine - e * shame. The hero of the gay scandal and the thief of state property in the role of president is strong.
  28. Alexandr73
    Alexandr73 9 December 2013 16: 05
    +2
    And on Saturday morning I wrote-DUCK- to throw firewood in the Euromaidan. And then there were already going to diverge. Zadolbali with their euromaidan already. Now in the EU, then in the CU, then in the CU, then in the EU. then put it out. decide already. Or do you enjoy it?
  29. pensioner
    pensioner 9 December 2013 16: 19
    +2
    British journalists bring Ukraine to the Customs Union insomnia
    and the possibility of Ukraine joining the EU - to heartburn ...
  30. Vilor
    Vilor 9 December 2013 16: 57
    +1
    )))))))))))))))
  31. Stinger
    Stinger 9 December 2013 17: 00
    +1
    No insomnia. The usual reception of the Englishman. Out of habit since the time of the October Revolution. Splash a little gasoline into the fire, while the great leader of the Ukrainian people itches.
  32. pensioner
    pensioner 9 December 2013 18: 10
    +2
    Something thought visited what But drones over the Maidan and the streets adjacent to it would not be useful? Indeed, from the picture taken from them, you can easily establish the direction of movement of the masses of people. Accordingly, we can draw conclusions about who, as they say, first started ... Yes, and probably experts will still see a lot of useful things ...
  33. duchy
    duchy 9 December 2013 18: 26
    +6
    Well done Alex good!! I read, neighing and crying. I neighing because they (the West) fell into hysteria because Russia was just like that. without a hitch Ukraine gave grandmother (well, she didn’t, but she wants to give), and Greece, how much time was at the feet of the gay union? He shed a tear from the fact that Gazprom, the first in the world in production in the world. it drives gas at a bargain price for a power cordon, and from the people of their country they raise and increase gas prices every year, probably foreigners, they will not be able to bear the high gas prices, undernourish, and warm up. And their people are accustomed to cold and hunger and other inconveniences that spoil them and so live. They’ll increase their income by a penny, and they will tear off by ten. Here and scratch your head how to digest it? It’s a shame for the power that its people are spread rot. hi
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 9 December 2013 18: 32
      +4
      Quote: duche
      Well done Alexey !!

      By the way. I am joining. hi
  34. Black
    Black 9 December 2013 18: 51
    +1
    Quote: motorized infantryman
    the real reason for the events on the Maidan is the struggle between Yanyk and the oligarchs,

    At the very point !!!!!
    Quote: motorized infantryman
    The choice is really not great, either a janek who is trying to become Putin and it is not yet known what will come of it, or the permanent power of the oligarchs, of some cunning nationality

    And again - for sure !!!!
  35. serge
    serge 9 December 2013 19: 43
    +2
    British journalists are British scientists.
  36. APASUS
    APASUS 9 December 2013 20: 25
    +2
    The time has not come yet, the memories of such a failure are too fresh! Here it will settle down a bit, Klitschkov will be replanted, and even half the scum - then they will sign it!
  37. here and there
    here and there 9 December 2013 20: 52
    +3
    British economists work expeditiously
  38. Arkan
    Arkan 9 December 2013 22: 09
    +2
    English zhurnalyuga- free, paid provocateur.