Military Review

Whoever comes to us with a sword, will die from the rake, or the Double-Edged Stick

87
Whoever comes to us with a sword, will die from the rake, or the Double-Edged Stick



At one time, Catherine II, a lover of progressive French enlightenment, having learned about the revolution in France, instead of rejoicing at the problems of her neighbors, inflating the embers of the popular masses and growing at their expense with territories, created a sacred union. The union is against all possible revolutions and national liberation movements. The first thing she thought about was the rake effect, although, if the English were in her place, they would not miss the opportunity to dance on the bones of enemies and allies for their own benefit, which, incidentally, they always did.
The European partners thanked Russia in their own way, stabbing her in the back during the Crimean War — the very Russia that had liberated them from Napoleon a couple of decades before and had crushed all the uprisings against their governments.

Now our European friends are actively trying to inflame inter-ethnic conflicts, participate in the dismemberment of other states, play with revolutions, displace legitimate power, help extremists and terrorists around the world. However, in my opinion, all these Euromaidans, Libya, Syria, Kosovo, etc., will come out sideways and, sooner or later, hit them on the forehead with a power of a shaped charge.

As they say, whoever comes to us with a sword, he will perish by the sword. Centuries go by, technologies are improving, but nothing changes ...

For the time being, let us put aside the most serious threat - millions of Arabs, Turks and Africans flooding Europe and not wanting to embrace European culture. In Germany, France, Italy, Greece, the situation has almost reached the boiling point, and this is only the beginning ... Let's consider Europe itself, with all its hidden ulcers and contradictions. Now most states get along peacefully with each other thanks to the high standard of living of the overwhelming majority of the population, but will the current situation last for a long time?

Europe has been living for a long time due to the fact that it sold “glass beads” to the whole world. Now - the same thing, only in the role of "glass beads" appears various high-tech products that the natives of developing countries are not able to produce on their own.

However, the situation is changing, the same China is beginning to pull the blanket over itself and many other countries, too, and the process will only develop. When the aborigines learn to create "glass beads" themselves, they will no longer need European ones, and Europe is not able to offer something else, for example, resources. And then, when the standard of living drops sharply, the tolerant mask of Europe will drop from their faces. For Europe, the era of rake will come. I hope, comrades from China and Russia, who also have a rich experience of revolution, will help them - for the sake of the triumph of democracy, justice and other things ...

For now, let us consider only some separatist sentiments of the exclusively ancestral peoples of Europe: the future field of activity for New Maidans and Kosovo.

Lithuania. Damned Russian invaders forcibly joined the Polish city of Vilna (Vilnius - the capital of Lithuania) and its environs together with the Polish population. In Vilna, the proud nobles are second-rate people; they are not allowed to any key posts. Poles do not like it and Poland, too ...

Spain. Basques - the once independent Kingdom of Navarre, inhabited by Basques, which existed at the junction of France and Spain at the beginning of the 20 century, attempted to create its own state. Fascist dictator Franco mercilessly stopped these attempts. However, the Basques have not calmed down so far, a significant part of the population is actively demanding independence. Do not hesitate to use Basques and terrorist methods.

Catalonia. Another major region of Spain, trying to achieve independence and crushed by Franco. About 90% in the referendum were in favor of independence. On the 2014 year, actions are planned for the final separation of Catalonia from Spain.

Similar movements also exist in other regions of Spain, but they are not so aggressive: Aragon, Andalusia, Castile, Leon, Asturias, Canary Islands ...

Northern Ireland. The Irish have long hated the British. The power of the British was always kept there on a tough military force. Irishmen periodically arrange pogroms, trying to achieve separation of northern Ireland from Great Britain, do not disdain and terrorist methods.

Scotland. In this proud country, so far only about 40% of the population favors secession from the UK - according to the UK itself. So far the Scots are behaving quite peacefully, especially after it was promised to hold a referendum for the separation of Scotland from Britain. But ember is easy to inflate; there are relevant technologies. Moreover, according to the Scottish referendum, the 2 / 3 population of Scotland favored separation from Britain.

There are also movements for the independence of Wales, Shetland Islands, Gibraltar (enclave in Spain), etc.

Denmark. The Faroe Islands have made repeated efforts to separate from Denmark.

Italy. Paddan Republic: in 90-ies, in the economically developed provinces of the north, a movement was formed for the separation of the rich industrial north and the creation of the Paddan Republic from Italy. The attempt to secession in 1996 failed, but the so-called League of the North continues to develop and have a significant influence on the policy of this region (it already has 30 seats in the Chamber of Deputies). The popularity of the party grows during periods of worsening economic problems and decreases during periods of stability.

There are also movements for the separation of Sicily, Lombardy, Sardinia and other territories.

France. Alsatians, Bretons, Corsicans, Basques. Then Normandy and Nice are all regions in which national liberation movements exist. Here are some examples.

In Corsica, created the front for national liberation. Active terrorist activities began in the 1976 year. Money is obtained mainly through smuggling and marketing of drugs. The government is making concessions, granted autonomy, but this is not enough for the Corsicans.

Brittany There operates the "Revolutionary Army of Brittany." From the statement of the leader of this party: “Until our land, our people, our language, armed struggle is recognized as the only effective means for us to create these conditions.”

The Basques living on the border with Spain also actively want to create a single independent state.

Belgium. Flanders. The Flemish movement for independence and the formation of an independent state of Flanders escalated in the 21 century. The Flemingies are gaining more and more popularity, speaking for the full independence of Flanders. After the fall of the Third Reich, which promised the Flemish independence, the population is subjected to certain language discrimination and gallation. The local people totally dislike it.

Strangely enough, many of the Flemish opponents - the Walloons, who speak not French, but French, also want to create their own state - Wallonia, or to join France, however, the activity and intolerance of the Flemish is far away.

Poland. Upper Silesia. Before the war, there 60% of the population supported the accession to Germany. "Cursed Stalin" gave this territory to Poland. And the Poles themselves evicted all the indigenous German population in a violent way, like the American Indians used to do, by the way, the flag of Upper Silesia is exactly the same as that of fraternal Ukraine.
During the forced relocation, about 1,7 million people died. Strange why they do not remember this? However, they also show the same forgetfulness about the joint attack with Hitler on the Czech Republic and hundreds of thousands of Red Army men tortured in captivity. However, the language of those Poles who remained is different from Polish, as well as Russian from Ukrainian. Fate, by the way, is also similar in them, since this territory has constantly passed from hand to hand to the most different states.
Now, oddly enough, the Silesians began to recall their independence, the main part of the population, however, so far only wants autonomy.

Ukraine. No words, well, tell me why Ukrainians can love Russia, which forcibly attached to it the whole of Western Ukraine, and before that, the Crimea and the southern Black Sea coast, where there were no Slavs at all since the times of Tmutarakan principality, and especially Ukrainians?

Everything is clear in principle here - the Polish-Austro-Hungarian west is trying to make the pro-Russian east happy, since there is no time to go on the Maidan, since people mostly work, and besides, they don’t pay for it ...

This list could go on even further, but it’s too long and tiring, so I’ll just list some other states.

For separation from their states are the territory:
1. Bosnia and Herzegovina - 4 National Education.
2. Greece - 2 national education.
3. Cyprus - 1 national education.
4. Latvia - 1 national education.
5. Lithuania - 1 national education.
6. Macedonia - 1 national education.
7. Netherlands - 1 national education.
8. Norway - 1 national education.
9. Romania - 2 national education.
10. Finland - 2 national education.
11. Croatia - 2 national education.
12. Montenegro - 4 national education.
13. Czech Republic - 1 national education.
14. Germany - 1 national education.

What to say? Rich field of activity ...
Author:
87 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. makarov
    makarov 8 December 2013 07: 25
    -10 qualifying.
    the material is one-sided and superficial, lack of conclusions, somewhat "childish", since it is based on assumptions and thickening of colors, such as "And they ..", "And we ..", etc.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 8 December 2013 12: 44
      35
      Quote: ....
      Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by rake,


      There is such a weapon, and even modernized
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 9 December 2013 05: 43
        +1
        The ax is still the national weapon of western Ukraine. And Yaroslav Golovanov was bumped at them, and my uncle told me how in the early 90s the head physician of a sanatorium in Truskavets — an intelligent man, a white bone — cut his daughter-in-law for children on religious grounds. Civilized Galicia, why do you want ...
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 8 December 2013 12: 45
      17
      That is, all this is not, and the author invented everything? As far as I know, everything is so.
      1. bif
        bif 8 December 2013 22: 10
        14
        Quote: Dart2027
        As far as I know, everything is so.

        As they say, whoever comes to us with a sword, he will perish by the sword. Centuries go by, technologies are improving, but nothing changes ...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 December 2013 22: 18
          +3
          Continents then shift to meet a couple of centimeters a year! But what if lol For the picture +!
        2. griig
          griig 6 July 2015 18: 02
          0
          The proportions are wrong, ours will be almost twice as high.
    3. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 8 December 2013 13: 22
      -10 qualifying.
      exactly. independent work on a given topic in 10-b. not impressive.
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 December 2013 15: 46
      24
      Quote: makarov
      the material is one-sided and superficial, lack of conclusions, somewhat "childish", since it is based on assumptions and thickening of colors, such as "And they ..", "And we ..", etc.


      Yes, right and so superficial? Read carefully. This is an essay on separatist territories in Europe. First a brief introduction, then the territories and the state of affairs are listed. About Ukraine, yes, a lot has been written, I agree. This earth does not deserve even a few words. They gave them a huge territory, they actually broke it and pass ... put aside!, turned into the territory of a permanent revolution, that is, in z.o.pu.
      1. makarov
        makarov 8 December 2013 17: 06
        -16 qualifying.
        All yaseo. In the world there are only two opinions, Demetrios and the wrong ..... And in general, your mustache has come off ... laughing
    5. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 8 December 2013 22: 24
      +9
      Quote: makarov
      the material is one-sided and superficial, lack of conclusions, somewhat "childish", since it is based on assumptions and thickening of colors, such as "And they ..", "And we ..", etc.

      What does one-sided mean? Not a thorough analysis, but the conclusions are correct. There are enough separatist regions in the world and a precedent from Kosovo has opened the way for everyone.
      Here you can add supporters of the independence of California and Texas, as well as American Indian regions. And Canadians, too, there are whole areas that want independence.
      What is interesting is to see the influence of Arabs and Africans on the separatist movements in Europe. One gets the feeling that nationalists at the local level simply want to isolate their territories from the Islamization and pedarasty of all of Europe. The rich industrial regions will declare their independence, while subsidized regions with a bunch of migrants will be left without a livelihood ... then real tolerance will begin there.
    6. catapractic
      catapractic 8 December 2013 22: 41
      +5
      the material is one-sided and superficial, lack of conclusions, somewhat "childish", since it is based on assumptions and thickening of colors, such as "And they ..", "And we ..", etc.

      Yes, while the material is perceived as a set of historical curiosities, but for now, and as the economic crisis breaks out, claims and an extreme search will come up ... old grievances will come up, and many people without fools have a very, very long memory and Europe will go cracked and if the separatists have overseas or some other sponsors ... then you won’t envy the old world.
      1. GDP
        9 December 2013 09: 03
        0
        Separatist sentiment escalates as a rule precisely during periods of economic crisis. It is too early to talk about a serious economic crisis in Europe, but this is a matter of time.
        It all depends on how fast and large-scale high-tech industries will develop in developing countries ...
    7. Victor-M
      Victor-M 8 December 2013 22: 49
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      the material is one-sided and superficial, lack of conclusions, somewhat "childish", since it is based on assumptions and thickening of colors, such as "And they ..", "And we ..", etc.

      And for some, an alarming spark slipped anyway.
  2. 31231
    31231 8 December 2013 07: 35
    19
    What is the author’s idea ?! Do they have orange revolutions for our money?
    We don’t have money for their revolution, we need to improve the country, and not ruin the strangers. Yes, and we do not need notoriety.
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 8 December 2013 08: 57
      10
      Quote: 31231
      What is the author’s idea ?! Do they have orange revolutions for our money?

      Yes, no, probably, we don’t really need to give rise to precedents of this nature and even pay for it, moreover, we have not left our western lands for the last time, the author just shows that the network of state borders is everywhere under pressure, and not just ours, although the fact of the EU’s existence holding back similar processes in Europe
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 December 2013 15: 51
        +7
        I agree that they themselves made a precedent from Kosovo, that’s what ours pointed out when they recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia! You can also remember the Kurds in Turkey who have long been asking for their autonomy but they are hard pressed! Well, Cyprus is also divided into religious groups! Such problems arise when economic problems are exacerbated and national governments cannot ensure the same standard of living. And the latest news from the EU speaks volumes for example: the closure of borders for migrants from the Balkans and talk about entry restrictions for guest workers from the Baltic states in England! And this is already a serious call about the state of the economy in the EU! It is not clear how the US will persuade the EU about visa-free entry for Ukraine, and this is almost 45 million people that the old Europe is very bad there are problems with the head wassat
      2. knn54
        knn54 8 December 2013 16: 33
        +5
        Kyrgyz: Yes, no, probably, we don’t have any special need to give rise to precedents of this nature.
        What for. They voluntarily and happily accept the flows of Chechen, Ingush ... "martyrs" as "living" evidence of the absence of democracy in Russia.
        Caucasian "guests" from Russia, prone to aggressive behavior, gangster and terrorist activities, complement the Muslim "exodus" from North Africa.
        I am SURE that the EU will have to recall the Stalinist experience condemned by them against the extremist inclinations of the Chechens, Crimean Tatars, and others ...
        Otherwise, they will receive the Caliphate or a bunch of emirates, regardless of the efforts of the Basques, Catalans, Flemings, etc.
        THE PROBLEM OF EUROPEAN ELITES - INCAPPILITY to defend the interests of their states, inability to defend national interests.
    2. Civil
      Civil 8 December 2013 10: 04
      26
      The same faces
    3. Free Island
      Free Island 9 December 2013 02: 38
      +2
      money may not be there, but there is a bunch of weapons that gather dust in abundance in the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense. And this is half of the sponsorship)))
    4. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 08
      +1
      My article is not about that. And the fact that playing with the fire of nationalism is dangerous, there will always be those who benefit from it, it’s not necessarily Russia, it’s better for us not to do this, if only quietly and then we need to think ten times - let it be China, alkaida no difference. ..
      Throwing matches on the neighbor’s roof is dangerous, especially when you are sitting on a powder keg yourself. Nationalism and the overthrow of legitimate authority, a split in society and the state can work in both directions. In vain they give rise and most importantly justify such precedents ...
  3. saxa2103
    saxa2103 8 December 2013 07: 53
    13
    the author’s idea is simple- (only Europe is here) think, because the holiday on you is just around the corner, and the EU member is a member of the EU_ Wolf, and instead of helping with a club, it smells like nothing (doesn’t remind anything ???) drinks - angry
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 8 December 2013 11: 48
      14
      And what is the background ???
      I will try to tell)))
      АziaАfreakАAustraliaАMerikaАrktika and Аntarktidaare parts of the world that our ancestors called on Midgard-Earth and they have existed for millions of years ....
      there was also ATLANTIS, but the "comrades" led the wrong way and it was destroyed (wiped off the face of the Earth .... This is not due to earthquakes and cataclysms- А improper behavior of individuals, well, sodomy)))

      Europe, as you can see, is not called "А"she appeared on the cards when the so-called "Jewish project" People were infected with GMOs, they were called Jews (consonant with EuroPE)) and it started ... HISTORY, inventing and fantasy, and serious CHRONICLES were destroyed, remember the fire in the Libraries (Alexandria ....)) of Peter, who from the Monasteries I collected all the books for copying and BURNING, People were burned, who knew a lot of things at the stake, they kill them too, well, or credit "KABALU" is being driven away (another belief of genetically modified people))))

      Europe has no other chance than to repeat the ATLANTIS project ....
      А Jews (a small part, mostly immigrants from the USSR and speaking the Russian proto-language)) have a chance to survive ..... they have weak signs of a "HERD" society ...
      The rest will repeat the fate of the Atlanteans (unfortunately))))))
      The moral of this fable is this-Learn Russian language!!!!
      Аsconce cadabreА))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      1. atalef
        atalef 8 December 2013 12: 06
        -3
        Quote: Asgard
        Asia, Africa, Australia, America, the Arctic and Antarctica are the parts of the world that our ancestors named on Midgard-Earth

        Is the Arctic a part of the world? belay
        Is there always something new, as I understand the ancestors spoke Russian?
        Quote: Asgard
        Europe, as we see, is called not on "A", it appeared on the maps, when the so-called "Jewish project" began to come true

        Only in Hebrew Europe begins with (א) - (אירופה)
        א- Alef - the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet - similar to A (in other alphabets) - how mitos collapse - how to explain this is not a dock laughing

        Quote: Asgard
        People were infected with GMOs, they were called Jews (consonant with EuroPE)) and raced ......

        Well, it’s apparently from the translation from (the ancient language is unknown in Asgard laughing
        Quote: Asgard
        They burned people who knew a lot of things at the stake.

        Well, then they managed to pass on their secret knowledge (as I understand it)
        Quote: Asgard
        well, or credit "KABALA

        Kabbalah and Kabbalah - two different things - are even written differently. laughing
        Quote: Asgard
        Europe has no other chance to repeat the ATLANTIS project

        Where do you live ? Before the Urals or after? By the way, if before, come to Israel, he’s not in Europe - he’ll be saved
        Quote: Asgard
        And the Jews (a small part, mostly immigrants from the USSR and speaking the Russian right language)) have a chance to survive

        Well, thank you ,
        Quote: Asgard
        The moral of this Fable is this-Learn Russian language !!!!

        In general - then any other .tk. Europe and the most highly developed part of Russia in terms of industry will not remain the same. At the same time, America, Australia, Africa and China with India (all of Asia) will not suffer. Given that 80% of the population of Russia and all its industrial potential, together with the capital, is located in the European part of the continent, then China will like it, and all the others will do the same.
        You painted a beautiful perspective for your country.
        Learn geography, otherwise you'll have to live in the Arctic laughing
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 8 December 2013 14: 08
          10
          Quote: atalef
          א- Alef - the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet - similar to A (in other alphabets) - how mitos collapse - how to explain this is not a dock

          Mismatch ????
          I see imitation here, Alexander))), so to speak, ape))))
          Well, Pasibki, that laid out my koment and commented on the position of the Jewish People Yasna))))
          Well, from the Russian people you slammed a minus)))))
          I will abstain, all the same, I still have a feeling that WHERE THERE IS DEEP INSIDE IF IF KHOROSHENKO HITS ON THE JEWISH TROUBLE))) will wake up MAN by the way the rake is a good tool)))) There is a good demotivator on this topic (see pictures) )))
          .................................................. .......................
          AND WE WILL PLEASURE TO TAKE THE PERSON BORN, but, like Stalin, we will not create states for nations iudand put a ban on the profession and the opportunity to participate in management ...

          Israel project will suffer the fate of Europe)))))
          So I will stay in Hyperborea.
          1. atalef
            atalef 8 December 2013 16: 33
            -7
            Quote: Asgard
            A nonsense ???? I see imitation here, Alexander))) so to speak, ape))))

            A more detailed

            Quote: Asgard
            Well, Pasibki, that laid out my koment and commented on the position of the Jewish People Yasna))))

            Don’t flatter me, I’m far from the whole Jewish people, among ours you can probably find the same thing a couple of three Neanderthal consonants
            Quote: Asgard
            IF KHOROSHENKO HIT ON THE JEWISH BASH))) MAN WAKES UP

            Well, first try yourself on the wall ....
            Quote: Asgard
            Well, from the Russian people you slammed a minus


            Right from everything?
            Quote: Asgard
            Jews and put a ban on the profession and the opportunity to participate in management ...

            Thank you, you are at home, we are at home.
            Quote: Asgard
            Israel project will suffer the fate of Europe)))))

            Thank you.
            Quote: Asgard
            So I will stay in Hyperborea

            Hyperborea - hypertension belay Strange resemblance laughing
            1. SV
              SV 8 December 2013 19: 29
              0
              / Asgard /most likely a little drunk, usually he speaks more reasonably .....
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 8 December 2013 14: 52
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          Kabbalah and Kabbalah - two different things - are even written differently.

          the difference is so small that it is not visible.
          Quote: atalef
          Given that 80% of the population of Russia and all its industrial potential, together with the capital, is located in the European part of the continent, then China will like it, and all the others will do the same.

          You probably have a special, Jewish mathematics, as the numbers are not correct.
          1. atalef
            atalef 8 December 2013 16: 21
            -1
            Quote: Setrac
            the difference is so small that it is not visible.

            What is it like?
            Quote: Setrac
            You probably have a special, Jewish mathematics, as the numbers are not correct

            Disprove
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 8 December 2013 15: 52
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Learn geography, otherwise you'll have to live in the Arctic

          You see, the North Pole was not always in the Arctic, once it was a part of the world favorable for living. I want to draw your attention to the names of some lands, Greenland - green land, Iceland - ice land, and then where was the cold pole? Somewhere in the North Atlantic.
          1. atalef
            atalef 8 December 2013 16: 28
            -1
            Quote: Setrac
            You see, the North Pole was not always in the Arctic, once it was a part of the world favorable for living.

            Well then, let's touch on Pangea and Gondwanna what kind of continent do you want? How and where in them were that Africa. that America and the rest are nonsense

            Quote: Setrac
            I want to draw your attention to the name of some lands, Greenland is a green land

            So what ? What period do you want to touch on small and large unions? Or is it possible that grapes were grown in England in the Middle Ages? Or the fact that in the Sahara 5000 years ago, rey flowed. How does all this confirm Asgardian tales?
            Quote: Setrac
            Iceland is an ice land, but where was the cold pole then? Somewhere in the North Atlantic.

            Why? Because you like it that way?
            By the way the cold pole is in Antarctica - so for general knowledge
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 8 December 2013 20: 15
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Well then, let's touch on Pangea and Gondwanna what kind of continent do you want? How and where in them were that Africa. that America and the rest are nonsense

              The pole change was not so long ago, homo sapiens was already there.
            2. Hort
              Hort 9 December 2013 07: 57
              +2
              By the way the cold pole is in Antarctica - so for general knowledge
              southern.
              The North Pole of Cold is located in Oymyakon - in Yakutia. Also for general development.
        4. catapractic
          catapractic 8 December 2013 22: 55
          -2
          atalef Why are you commenting on this nonsense? A normal person after reading the nonsense just laughs, and idiots (I hope there are few of them) do not need your comments, they have long convinced themselves of their infallibility.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 8 December 2013 14: 49
        +4
        Quote: Asgard
        Asia, Africa, Australia, America, the Arctic and Antarctica are parts of the world that our ancestors called on Midgard-Earth and they have existed for millions of years ....

        I have already said that the continent is Asia, and Europe is part of it, so they ridiculed me. And most importantly, nobody is embarrassed by the harmony of the word Jews and Europe, and after a couple of hundred years, on the basis of this similarity, Jews will claim all of Europe.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 December 2013 20: 55
          +5
          We in Magnitogorsk border with Asia passes! On the right bank of the Ural River the city lies the European part on the left MMK the famous combine the Asian part and part of the city the most dysfunctional hooligans and other fringe!

          “He's a bastard,” Turbin continued with hatred, “for he himself does not speak this language!” BUT? The day before yesterday I ask this channel, Dr. Kuritsky, he, if you please, see, have forgotten how to speak Russian since November last year. There was Kuritsky, and he became Kuritsky ... So I ask: what is Ukrainian like a “cat”? He answers "whale". I ask: "And how is the whale?" And he stopped, widened his eyes and was silent. And now he does not bow. Nikolka burst out laughing and said: “They cannot have the word" whale "because there are no whales in Ukraine, and there are a lot of things in Russia. In the White Sea, there are whales ...
          »
          - M.A. Bulgakov, "White Guard"
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 8 December 2013 21: 02
            +4
            By the way, lightning in Kiev demolished a monument to Lenin! Sadness and to the monuments the hand of a proud European woman reached out!
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. Apollo
              Apollo 8 December 2013 21: 21
              +8
              ..... and why the democrats demolished the monument. What prevented ?! Is the EU calls for the demolition of monuments ?! winked
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 8 December 2013 21: 25
                +7
                Who knows them apparently want to return the part of Ukraine that was presented by the communist leaders laughing
              2. POMA
                POMA 8 December 2013 23: 34
                +5
                VANDALS !!! Reminds the Taliban movement, when the Buddha statues were demolished and the same shouts were "Allah Akbar".
                1. catapractic
                  catapractic 9 December 2013 10: 29
                  +1
                  yeah BANDER akbar laughing
              3. catapractic
                catapractic 9 December 2013 10: 27
                +1
                type of symbol, however ... the symbol of the damned past, and BANDERA their future, however, so
      3. Little Russia
        Little Russia 8 December 2013 23: 54
        +2
        Crap. Even to me - the inveterate Zionist and Wahhabi, I felt uneasy reading this.
    2. Free Island
      Free Island 9 December 2013 02: 41
      +1
      That's it - the EU has only members, but there is no head along the way)))
      PS like in a joke - Tell me, are you a member of this party? No, I'm her head.
  4. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 8 December 2013 08: 02
    15
    The RUSSIANS have another saying about the rake. But about the ax - "Whoever comes to US with an ax will leave with an ax in the ass"
    1. igordok
      igordok 8 December 2013 11: 47
      +6
      Rake - how much in this word smile . In the west they are plastic, fan. They don’t learn from mistakes.
      Regarding rake sayings

      “Well, here you are.” This is a rake ...

      - There are so many rakes around that it is simply impossible to remember which ones have not yet stepped on.

      - If you knew which rake you would step on, I would definitely cover the handle with foam rubber.

      - Rakes are not a luxury, but a means to shake the brain.

      - Everything has its time. Time to throw a rake, time to step on them.

      - Bypassing the spread rake, - thereby we deprive ourselves of a huge life experience.

      - Having stepped on one rake, - look, far how others lie.

      - There are still a lot of rakes in the world that a man’s foot hasn’t stepped on!

      - Smart ones also step on the rake, but only in order to lift them off the ground without bending

      - If you try to go through the rake on the other side, you get a hit on the back of the head.

      - I stepped on a rake myself, call a friend.

      - Our national sport is walking on a rake.

      - The correct position of the rake is determined by what you are going to do with them - to step on or work.

      - In order not to step on the rake a second time, fasten the ax on their hilt.

      There are two types of rakes:
      1) that teach something;
      2) my favorites.

      - Apparently, until a woman reaches a certain age, a rake is a necessary accessory of her wardrobe.

      - The rake is not as dangerous as their stalk.

      - Bypassing the rake, you are depriving yourself of unforgettable sensations.

      - For some, a rake in the forehead is the only way to carve a spark of talent or to see the stars.

      “How nice it is to realize that you, too ... are someone's rake.”

      - Over the years, we become wiser and try to step on the rake less often. But fate also does not waste time in vain, and the rake more and more skillfully disguises itself.

      - Life is a rake dance. Everybody is dancing!!!

      - Each time I step on the same rake ... Stupidity? No, I just want stability.

      - Dance with a rake we dance without rehearsal.

      - RAKE is a brake for fast and inattentive.

      - The smart rake doesn’t come twice
      He first thinks where to step
      And, stepping on a rake only once, -
      Another politely give way.

      - It’s safer to follow an attentive person than a person with a good reaction, because the first one goes around the rake, and the second, having stepped on them, manages to dodge them.

      - The production of reinforced rake cuttings is approved by the Dental Association.

      - Better Severe Life with a Rake under your feet, than Death with a Scythe behind your back.

      - Thinking about how the rake is correctly laid out in life, you begin to believe in higher powers.

      - Only our man, stepping on a rake a second time, rejoices that they have not yet been stolen.

      - The more I step on the same rake, the more they seem to me more and more relatives.

      - Our rake is the most reusable rake in the world.

      - Whoever comes to us with his rake will also step on ours.

      - Do not put a rake on another, let him do it for himself.

      - We see a grain of sand under the feet of others, but we don’t notice under our rake.
    2. German
      German 8 December 2013 12: 55
      +2
      ..... and with a hatchet outside ... (imagined this picture for a minute, laughter has not passed for about ten minutes) wassat
  5. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 8 December 2013 08: 24
    +6
    I think the author’s advice will not benefit our rulers.
    Because they cannot restore order in their country, where else can they go into European affairs.
    Brains short.
    A content article contains information for consideration.
    Quite good.
  6. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 8 December 2013 08: 46
    +6
    Yes, Europe, and so kirdyk comes, these refugees, blacks with Arabs will soon drive them themselves. They will ask us, well, maybe we'll take caretakers smile
  7. VADEL
    VADEL 8 December 2013 09: 04
    0
    North Ossetia Alania is marked on the map. Would you remind us what the "rake" is and who left it there?
    1. bask
      bask 8 December 2013 12: 26
      +4
      Whoever comes to us with a sword, will die from the rake, or the Double-Edged Stick

      THE RIGHT CHOICE of gay r-opp... wassat
    2. alone
      alone 8 December 2013 20: 29
      +1
      Have you forgotten the Ossetian-Ingush conflict? After all, this conflict was cruel and would have given odds to many conflicts!
    3. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 12
      0
      NATO has already stepped on this rake, mainly because of the precedent from Kosovo.
  8. mountain
    mountain 8 December 2013 10: 02
    10
    Ah, I took the article differently and it’s not about Russia, but about the West. That they have no less internal problems and it would be time not to be ours, but to do their own business. Until it’s too late. I already wrote and I repeat, Europe was carried away by propaganda against Russia that she believed in it herself.
  9. Semurg
    Semurg 8 December 2013 10: 03
    +3
    I think the war of 1812 and 1914 was not really needed either by Russia or its enemies who could very well become good allies, but it happened as it happened (the diplomacy and money of England are strong). Russia should not inflate and support separatism in the world, and in particular in Europe, it is fraught with a fire of separatism at home (and there will be no moral justification for suppressing separatism at home if it is inflated by others. True, morality and politics have little overlap laughing but there is a famous phrase- what is the strength of a brother? and power is in truth.)
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 8 December 2013 17: 55
      +3
      Quote: Semurg
      there is a famous phrase, what is the strength of the brother? and power is in truth

      This is a borrowing from post perestroika films. A source:

      God is not powerful, but true.

      Nikon. ltop. 3, 10
    2. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 15
      0
      Here a new feature of the West works. If the truth is not on your side, buy it! For this, mass propaganda and other levers are used, which are sometimes cheaper than missiles and tanks ...
      The question is what will happen when the money runs out? Although probably it will not be soon ...
  10. calocha
    calocha 8 December 2013 10: 04
    +4
    On a stick (with both ends). Civilizations were destroyed only when they were weak, we give slack - we will not. Here and all the rake ...
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 December 2013 10: 20
    +4
    Now our European friends are actively trying to inflame inter-ethnic conflicts, participate in the dismemberment of other states, play with revolutions, displace legitimate power, help extremists and terrorists around the world. However, in my opinion, all these Euromaidans, Libya, Syria, Kosovo, etc., will come out sideways and, sooner or later, hit them on the forehead with a power of a shaped charge.
    It’s already going sideways .. When they begin to cut and undermine .. (and everything goes to this ..) they will again beg Russia to save their civilization .. and let's go .. (Russia does not remember evil.) Once again, at the expense of Russian blood we will save Europe .. It's a shame of course, but Russia has such a fate!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 8 December 2013 13: 05
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      When they begin to cut and undermine .. (and everything goes to this ..) they will again beg Russia to save their civilization .. and let's go .. (Russia does not remember evil.) Once again, we will save Europe through Russian blood ..

      Maybe at least one time it’s worth a ride with the Euro-assistants with assistance? Let them at least once try to get out of shit on their own.
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 December 2013 18: 24
      +5
      (Already sideways coming out .. When they start to be cut) -A soldier in England to whom the converts Islamists Afro-Europeans wanted to cut off their heads! And Islamic patrols in London (to undermine ..) The Tsarnaev brothers in Boston! (and then let's go ..) And let's not go save sodomites! Enough comrades, the whole history of the country says that it’s not necessary to help Europe sideways their thanks go to us!
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 8 December 2013 10: 25
    11
    It's too early, I think in the light of the history of the last 150 years, only one conclusion emerges. I saw a falling European neighbor, don't be lazy, come and help, kick a couple of times to make it fall faster. And if this is England's strength to regret the crime at all. Looking at the map, you understand that Europe is the appendix on the healthy body of Eurasia. "Cut without waiting for peritonitis."
  13. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 8 December 2013 10: 29
    0
    This is exactly what the author took from the ceiling "Scotland. In this proud country, so far only about 40% of the population is in favor of secession from Great Britain, according to the UK itself. While the Scots behave quite peacefully, especially after it was promised to hold a referendum for the secession of Scotland from Britain. But smoldering coals are easy to blow up; there are appropriate technologies for that. Moreover, according to the Scottish referendum, 2/3 of the population of Scotland favored secession from Britain. " According to the referendum, only 30% of Scots are in favor of complete secession. Polls do show that 30% of Scots are in favor of independence. But if you look more closely, it becomes clear that the overwhelming majority of Scots support the idea of ​​expanding the boundaries of self-government.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/09/26/1039077.html
  14. Leshka
    Leshka 8 December 2013 10: 45
    +2
    I can’t understand why the hell they need it, well, they will disconnect and that they will be left without anything like with the camps of the former USSR fool
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 8 December 2013 13: 49
      +3
      They were once parabotized! Yes, and you always need to try! Let them get what they impose on others, I about England!
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 December 2013 18: 34
      +3
      And here and there is no Lyoshka! In Scotland, there are oil and gas and tidal electro turbines! The waters of the fish are rich and there is whiskey)))
  15. taseka
    taseka 8 December 2013 10: 59
    +5
    "Now our European friends are actively trying to stir up interethnic conflicts" - I understand that the author has forgotten the word "friends" quote it!
  16. sasska
    sasska 8 December 2013 11: 21
    +6
    Quote: Leshka
    I can’t understand why the hell they need it, well, they will disconnect and that they will be left without anything like with the camps of the former USSR fool

    what's not clear? decisions are made by some, while others are puffed out. the rulers will receive grants for the "development of democracy and other unknown garbage" and other nishtyaki, and someone will count the last kopecks in their pockets. in no former republic did the people begin to live better.
  17. irongun
    irongun 8 December 2013 11: 25
    +1
    "The Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. Horses eat oats and hay." A.P. Chekhov "Man in a Case".
    Is the analogy clear?
  18. irongun
    irongun 8 December 2013 11: 27
    +1
    "The Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. Horses eat oats and hay." A.P. Chekhov "Man in a Case".
    Is the analogy clear?
  19. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 December 2013 12: 22
    +4
    The problems of interethnic relations and the issues of self-determination of ethnic groups are very complex, so that they can be considered in one small article. NIt should be noted that this is not only a "rake", but also a "stick", which, as you know, has two ends. Therefore, you need to discuss them carefully, so as not to harm yourself. Western politicians on this issue act simply: cynicism, adventure and betrayal of their neighbors (especially eastern ones) and suppression of problems within their own country.
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 8 December 2013 12: 45
    +9
    And why are members of the forum actually against the rake? Europe didn’t manage to put a frank and fat member on Russia. in matters of loosening the situation both along the borders and in our country. And we wipe ourselves with snot and wash off the spit, hard childish babble about "we would have to figure it out." Isn't it time to move the hostilities abroad of our homeland? THEY WILL LEFT FROM US ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE FLOW. Small infusions of NGOs under the roof of the special services. Technologies have already been invented and tested, why piss.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 8 December 2013 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      And why forum users actually against rake?

      I also think that you will not wait until they are left behind together with their chief librarian. Although separatism, as discussed in the article, is fraught with Russia.
  21. crambol
    crambol 8 December 2013 13: 02
    +3
    Whoever comes to us with a sword will die from a rake

    Old rake what! Here's a children's rake .... A neighbor plastered month went!
    1. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 22
      0
      In Russia, the rake is large and heavy, it is necessary that a lot of enemies of the people run up and mess up before they rise. True, one plus - they will all fly long and far ... :)
  22. dropout
    dropout 8 December 2013 13: 32
    +1
    Quote: Asgard
    The rest will repeat the fate of the Atlanteans


    Put the Jews on a par with the Atlanteans .... That's cool.
  23. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 8 December 2013 13: 47
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Learn geography, otherwise you'll have to live in the Arctic


    And you, study the ancient maps of those places.

    1. chehywed
      chehywed 8 December 2013 15: 43
      +4
      Quote: We are from Tambov ...
      And you, study the ancient maps of those places.

      Sid Meier, Civilization III, mod Atlantean Path. There are such "old" maps! You will download!
    2. atalef
      atalef 8 December 2013 17: 27
      +2
      Quote: We are from Tambov ...
      And you, study the ancient maps of those places.

      Who would have thought how everything has changed in 800 years. And the whales sailed away and the turtle escaped and the elephants went into the jungle and the flat earth turned out to be not flat (which is probably why the animals ran away and there is no one to keep the flat land) and India - neither to America's side and even the sun stopped spinning around the earth laughing
      And the continents ran so fast these maximum 800 years (older maps are somehow not enough) that they simply plowed the oceans moving from place to place. California is no longer an island. But the most important thing --- if you study the old Maps well (the so-called T-maps), then you suddenly find out that the center of the Earth and the whole world is in Jerusalem - do you agree with that? laughing
      Do not smack nonsense --- dear. hi
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 8 December 2013 20: 25
        +2
        Well, of course, how could I forget that Jerusalem is the navel of the Earth. Forgive the descendant of the Aryan. But! You, the faithful Negev shepherd of wild goats, are a little mistaken, as once, your Moses, without GPS, led the people of Israel through the sand, and therefore passed by the oil-rich lands of Arabia (God be his judge, forgive me - Yahweh). And you are mistaken in the fact that you consider the Torah a reference book for all the peoples of the Earth. And they decided to me to hint that I’m not following, or, didn’t read your story from Thorium. So then, is not my omission, but a sign of my uncircumcision. Sorry if I made stylistic, and possibly punctuation errors in my sincere answer to you.
    3. Cherdak
      Cherdak 8 December 2013 18: 46
      12
      Quote: We are from Tambov ...
      study vintage cards
  24. Yeraz
    Yeraz 8 December 2013 13: 47
    -2
    Having a wide national flavor, fanning separatism is beyond idiocy. So they messed up with Abkhazia and Ossetia and took on provision of 2 more bottomless wells of subsidies. It is dangerous to play a match when he is on a barrel of gunpowder.
    1. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 26
      0
      This is discussed in the article, only not about Russia, but about Europe, it was they who were the first to start, setting a precedent from Kosovo. Abkhazia and Ossetia is rather a warning from Russia. Syria, too. Although there’s no clear reaction to the situation in Ukraine, apparently there are reasons for this ...
  25. Christian
    Christian 8 December 2013 14: 46
    +2
    What can we say about Europe, here we have it ... After the Jewish Bolsheviks destroyed the Wall Empire of the Russian Empire (where there were no national entities), the Bolsheviks, with the aim of impossibility of further restoration of the Empire, defeated Russia into a national republic. The current authorities (as the heirs of the Jewish Bolsheviks ) pursue the same policy. The results we see every day are terrorist attacks, killings of Russians on the streets of Russian cities ... There was no such thing under the tsar ...
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 8 December 2013 17: 37
      +2
      Learn the history, damn it, where do you come from, all these chuchmeks separated themselves, it cost the country to stagger.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 December 2013 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: EvilLion
        all these chuchmeks separated themselves,


        He is right, separated because they had the right to do so. Marx invented, Lenin secured in a single country. No one had such crap.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 8 December 2013 18: 44
      +6
      Quote: Christian
      There was no such thing under the king ...


      Called treated like people ...
  26. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 December 2013 14: 49
    +3
    There is also the state of Texas in the USA, where they also do not really want to be in the USA, and the rest of the southerners still remember the Confederation and the war for it, although 150 years have passed already.
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 8 December 2013 19: 47
      +3
      Quote: tank64rus
      There is also the state of Texas in the USA, where they also do not really want to be in the USA


      But there are already two Georgia, one of which is even ready for a cross on the flag. laughing
      And obviously the British were stolen a passport from the British in order to cheat on customs.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 December 2013 20: 05
        +1
        I propose to recognize the independence of several regions of Georgia, American, following the example of Georgia, the Caucasus laughing
  27. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 8 December 2013 15: 24
    +6
    The author told the truth about Silesia. He served in the Polish People's Republic from 1986 to 1990. Only two cases: The first - February 1987. I am going to Legnica by bus from the railway station to Helicopter. Nearby, the pan knocks himself on the chest and on the floor of the bus gives out "There is a Pole, there is a pyast". Second: March 1989 we are going from Sprotava directly past Diencmarowice to the garrison. Not along the road, but parallel to it, covered with bushes. Four "Poles", 55-60 years old, who spoke the purest Ukrainian language, when they saw my wife and I, immediately "zaphekal". We parted on parallel courses.
    Now the debriefing: in the first case it was a drunken citizen of Krakow or Mazovian who visited Dolny Shlensk, in the second - Bandera, who fled away from Stalin to the “old Polish” lands under the guise of Poles.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 8 December 2013 17: 38
      +4
      Pure Ukrainian. Already funny.
      1. chehywed
        chehywed 8 December 2013 17: 43
        +7
        Quote: EvilLion
        The author to learn the history of Ukraine

        And how do you like this hochmochka? laughing
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 8 December 2013 17: 49
        +1
        Quote: EvilLion
        Pure Ukrainian. Already funny

        You are not able to recognize the following at a distance of 20-25 meters: a. Poles. b. Belarusians. c. Western Ukrainians. Eastern Ukrainians. ???? Go for 4 years, live, watch movies without translation, turn to the pan (pani) so that they understand what you need from them. Already it will not be funny.
  28. alone
    alone 8 December 2013 15: 51
    +1
    What to say? Rich field of activity ...

    I wonder what Popov is proposing? To support separatism in the above and unnamed countries? and this despite the fact that Russia itself has suffered from separatism for so many years and still suffers from terrorism? Separatism and terrorism are the same coin.
    There is a saying: when you dig a hole for someone, make the depth lower and the width wider, then you’ll fall there yourself !!
    Article -.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 8 December 2013 15: 57
      +4
      Quote: lonely
      I wonder what Popov is proposing? To support separatism in the above and unnamed countries? and this despite the fact that Russia itself has suffered from separatism for so many years and still suffers from terrorism? Separatism and terrorism are the same coin.
      There is a saying: when you dig a hole for someone, make the depth lower and the width wider, then you’ll fall there yourself !!
      Article -.

      You turn upside down. It was the West who dug a pit of separatism for Russia, and we must make sure that they themselves fall into it.
      1. alone
        alone 8 December 2013 20: 27
        0
        Are you sure that the West dug a hole for you? Maybe the West was yelling at the tank "take as much sovereignty as you can !? Is it the West that supported the Kurdish separatists in Turkey or the KGB of the USSR? Or maybe all sorts of separatist organizations in the USSR also supported the West, or did Gorbachev with with them tricked through his advisers?

        It’s not worth all mistakes and mistakes to be attributed to the West. It is time to honestly and frankly admit what’s what and how. Otherwise, it’s all to blame, we are only white fluffy !!

        But when you honestly admit mistakes, then in reality you will become as powerful as before! Otherwise, no way. The USA also blames you for everything. It’s open or indirect. And it will never admit its mistakes. So what's the difference? hi
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 11 December 2013 16: 18
          0
          Quote: lonely
          this west supported the Kurdish separatists in Turkey or the KGB of the USSR

          The Caucasus is a zone of interests of Russia, claims are not clear, the USSR responded to the West by its methods.
          Quote: lonely
          You should not write off all mistakes and mistakes to the West.

          These are not mistakes; the West openly sends militants to Ukraine.
  29. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 December 2013 16: 14
    +2
    Proton M has started! While everything is normal.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 December 2013 16: 25
      +2
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Proton M has started! While everything is normal.

      Let's hope that Rogozin does not eat his bread for good reason! And all conclusions about past problems have been made correctly! Three times on the table and a bottle of beer in the good way)))
  30. EvilLion
    EvilLion 8 December 2013 17: 36
    -1
    The author to learn the history of Ukraine and not write nonsense.
    MINUS.
  31. vomag
    vomag 8 December 2013 17: 42
    +1
    ЛTtva. Damned Russian occupiers forcibly attached to it the Polish city of Vilna (Vilnius - the capital of Lithuania) and its environs, together with the Polish population. In Vilno proud noblemen are second-class people; they are not allowed to any key posts. Poles do not like it and Poland, too I read this stupid opus and just didn’t read anymore what kind of Poland is Poland, what n *** th Poles, and especially its population ??? is the capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania maybe heard of such a state ??
    1. avg
      avg 8 December 2013 18: 22
      +5
      is the capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania maybe heard of such a state ??

      We have not only heard, but also know the history of this state.
      That's just what modern Lithuanians have to do with it (former zhemayts and aukshites), this is not clear.
      1. vomag
        vomag 8 December 2013 21: 06
        +1
        I agree vaasche no exactly like the Poles, this territory belongs to the modern Republic of Belarus. (Rather, it should apply)
    2. Heckfy
      Heckfy 8 December 2013 19: 28
      +1
      Especially there they love farmers (Lithuanians).
      By the way, one of the most pro-Russian Poles.
    3. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 37
      0
      I really did not thoroughly check the situation with the former Polish city of Vilna. The political officer who served there told me about this situation, and also a couple of years ago I read a translation of a Polish newspaper in which the Poles lamented about the violation of their rights in Vilnius.
      Nevertheless, here is some information for you to think about where the Poles came from in Vilna and how many there are:
      "Until 1939, Vilna was part of Poland. On October 10, 1939, it was transferred by the Soviet Union to the Republic of Lithuania."
      From Wikipedia, the national composition of Vilnius in 2003:
      "61 847 (40,0%) Jews, 47 795 (30,9%) Poles, 30 967 (20,1%) Russians, 6514 (4,2%) Belarusians, 3238 (2,1%) Lithuanians,"
      As you can see, the Lithuanians in Vilnius (myself in shock!) Are only 2 percent. Poles 0 20%! Almost ten times more ...
  32. GUSAR
    GUSAR 8 December 2013 18: 03
    0
    No one in Europe will separate from anyone, for it is not particularly interesting or beneficial to anyone
  33. Arkan
    Arkan 8 December 2013 18: 40
    +1
    Europe - Patchwork Empire. There are separatists in any state. In a strong state, separatism is under control.
  34. Cherdak
    Cherdak 8 December 2013 18: 45
    +4
    So Ukraine needs to learn a story
    1. LINX
      LINX 9 December 2013 01: 55
      -1
      So look, how about this option ...

      1. GDP
        9 December 2013 09: 40
        +1
        It's funny :)) Since when has northern kakaz been part of Ukraine? Although dreaming is certainly not harmful ...
        In general, I am against a neglect of Ukraine - it is still Kievan Rus - the cradle of Russian tsevilizatsii. Yes, set against us, having forgotten its roots, but westernized and eastern Ukraine are not the same thing and it’s still relatives, we must understand this. And in Western Ukraine, not everything is so simple ...
      2. HollyGremlin
        HollyGremlin 9 December 2013 11: 47
        +2
        Forgive what card? The resettlement of peoples, and very conditional, because in 1918 no one traveled to countries and asked: "who do you think you are?", But relied on appearance and way of life. For example, even now there are many Russians living in Crimea, but no one draws borders on this basis. And the state border here is black, and along it we are all together, who has not yet reached! I realized if somewhere there was a clear plan, ambitious leaders, a strong economy, and it’s easier to work together even logically, if you don’t want to remember the historical connection.
    2. GDP
      9 December 2013 11: 28
      0
      The southern part of the white background must also be painted over - this part was conquered by the Russian Empire from the Ottoman Empire in several bloody wars and joined the Ukraine ...
    3. catapractic
      catapractic 9 December 2013 18: 17
      0
      more Outskirts of good and different, as they have-Ukraine CE Europe, there are no guys ... OPA laughing
  35. Boris63
    Boris63 8 December 2013 19: 05
    +4
    There is no smoke without fire, maybe someone (of the peoples listed in the article) will start to "buzz" seriously. In Russia this happens "periodically", sometimes it is suppressed, sometimes it "descends" itself. But for Europe, a serious "booze" will be a "pleasant surprise", and for this to happen we do not even need to spend money (large) - simply (veiled) say: "Comrades" are going the right way.
  36. I think so
    I think so 8 December 2013 19: 41
    0
    The little article reflects only the EXTERNAL side of the ongoing processes. And the deep side is not even touched by a hint. And it consists in the fact that the Western elites (and mainly the elites of the United States, Great Britain), based on the current global crisis, are starting another world slaughter. And it will happen AGAIN in the vastness of Europe ... How will it be.
    1. The majority of the population of Europe is driven into poverty. The discontent of people is over the top.
    2. An internal enemy is sought. It used to be communism, now there will be Islam, Orthodoxy and guest workers.
    3. The rise to power of radical leaders in most European countries.
    4. The reprisals against "enemies" in these countries will give a significant improvement in life there. There will be work. Increased media hysteria. Increased military preparations.
    5. Another drang nach osten. The United States and Great Britain, as in the Second World War, will apparently (?) Be on the side of Russia (because it is weaker than Europe). If they are on the side of Europe, then Russia is doomed.
    6. Regardless of the result, "Dranga" - the process of rebuilding Europe and strengthening the hegemony of the United States and Great Britain. In the event of the disappearance of Russia as a state, the division of its territory.

    This is a simple strategy that the "powers that be" are now implementing.
  37. sasska
    sasska 8 December 2013 19: 58
    +3
    Quote: dropout
    Quote: Asgard
    The rest will repeat the fate of the Atlanteans


    Put the Jews on a par with the Atlanteans .... That's cool.


    Levashovets, or what? this is the "okodemik from the fire department and Mosgorspravka" broadcast about his help to the world
  38. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 December 2013 20: 43
    +2
    What to say? Rich field of activity ...

    It’s rich, no doubt, there’s no one to do activity in this field ... They themselves will not do anything, but a powerful force, like the USSR, which led (informally, but absolutely real) many vectors, starting from the ICRM (International Communist and Workers Movement) ) ending with the Non-Aligned Movement ...
  39. AlexP47
    AlexP47 8 December 2013 20: 48
    +3
    The above map of European "separatists" amused me: it turns out that North Ossetia was going to secede. Yes Yes... laughing
    1. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 49
      0
      You laugh, and I read an analytical article on the allegedly Belarusian site created by our Ukrainian friends in the Dominican Republic yesterday that the Ingush should regain their ancestral lands - North Ossetia, the Caucasus should have its own imamat, and the southern part of the Stavropol Territory should be captured by Caucasians . The Dominican Republic, by the way, is actually the United States. So think ...
  40. luka095
    luka095 8 December 2013 23: 28
    +2
    Article "plus". The author outlined in a brief overview the current situation in Europe on the topic he touched upon. Something more detailed, something just a listing. What conclusions do some commentators want from the author? You were given material - well, draw your own conclusions if you wish. Look, in the end, if interested, for more information on the topic. Write, if you wish, an analytical article on the topic. But make a claim? Yes, they can always be expressed if there is such a desire. But is this approach productive?
  41. Jack122
    Jack122 8 December 2013 23: 33
    +2
    At one time, the lover of progressive French enlightenment Catherine II, learning about the revolution in France, instead of rejoicing in the problems of her neighbors, fanning the smoldering embers of the masses and growing territories at their expense, created a holy union. The Union is against all possible revolutions and national liberation movements. The first thing she thought about was the rake effect.
    ---
    Damn, Catherine did not create a holy union, the initiator was Alexander 1 in 1815. But the author was not only mistaken, but he also painted everything colorfully)))
    1. GDP
      9 December 2013 09: 52
      0
      Yes, it is, the union itself was created by Alexander 1, but Catherine the Second laid the foundation. She even assembled the 60 000 corps to crush the revolution in France ...
  42. sasska
    sasska 9 December 2013 00: 16
    +5
    Quote: Apollon
    ..... and why the democrats demolished the monument. What prevented ?! Is the EU calls for the demolition of monuments ?! winked
    in Estonia, the transfer of the Monument to the Unknown Soldier was "marked" by popular unrest.


    how do you like this euroreality?
  43. Michael ZM
    Michael ZM 9 December 2013 15: 06
    +2
    Europe will cling with all its claws to its welfare. The rake will certainly work. The reason for the trouble coming on them is not so much the problem of the economy. Any comfort gives rise to an incapable plant. It will be a tragedy squared. For the Russians, it may be funny to look at their problems, but everything will seem like hell to them. Panic. This is a defeat. And the further, the worse it will be. Like a chain reaction.
    Madness. Not recognizing the truth as truth, such as recognizing the same-sex reproduction method as correct, the majority of Europeans will become clouded by reason. This is the rule of our psyche. And from the spiritual side, everything is much simpler. Having turned God away from himself as abominations at the highest level, they will have no protection. And what will be done there by the enemy of the human race is terrible to imagine.
    The main thing is not to get into their moods.