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Theory of Impossibility. Why are government presidential decrees unbearable

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Theory of Impossibility. Why are government presidential decrees unbearable

Calling the May (2012 of the year) decrees of the president (and at the same time many of his subsequent orders and instructions) impracticable, the leaders of the economic bloc of our government in no way lie. These decrees are truly not enforceable not only for this government, but for any government that is guided by the same economic theory that the current government of the Russian Federation is guided by.


This theory as a whole is based on libertarian principles, which boil down to the fact that the state has no right to do anything useful for society at all. The state should be, according to this theory, at best an arbiter ensuring the observance of the rules of the game - but the game itself should be played only by individuals who are in no way affiliated with the state. This option works well, so far and because the external environment contributes to the success of individuals. And this situation is not always.

In particular, in the midst of the economic crisis, direct and very active government intervention is clearly required. This is proved by the experience of the previous First Great Depression, and by the course of the present - the Second Great Depression. It is trying to get out of it precisely by the state. True, not all recipes used for this work efficiently. Moreover, some of them are able to even give the opposite result: in particular, excess monetary emission, which can pay off a brief recession, with long-term use causes long-term damage. But in those places where the state does not work at all, the depression passes especially hard.

In our country, the government is guided by the theory which, in case of a depression, prescribes the maximum departure of the state from active activities. What happens at the same time is evident, in particular, just from what the government says about the impracticability of presidential decrees. Who says this in plain text, who veiled - reporting that, they say, we are trying our best, but for some reason, so far nothing is working. But in any case, it is completely obvious: the government, guided by this theory, is indeed deliberately unable to execute any decree of any relevance to the economy.

This does not mean that the decrees themselves are erroneous. This only proves that the theory used by the government is erroneous. Whether it is possible to ensure that this government acts according to a different theory, or it’s necessary to say that another government has begun to act - I don’t say exactly. But for me, it is much easier to replace the government than to continue the experiment with such small chances of successful completion.

However, to some extent, the compatibility of the current government with sound economic theories can be predicted on the basis of a recent dispute over the Russian Academy of Sciences. As you know, in her department of economics, under the leadership of Sergey Yuryevich Glazyev, the economic development program of the Russian Federation was developed, which guarantees the growth of gross domestic product of at least 6% per year for the next couple of five-year plans. The economic bloc of the current government, even in the most vigorous promises, does not rise above 3% (as Mikhail Leonidovich Khazin noted, 2 – 3 could be pursued in a row to achieve only games with statistics in a row without contacting real life). The government’s response to the academic project was immediate. On the pinnacle promoted through the State Duma and even signed by the president a law subordinating all scientific life in the academy to the arbitrariness of financiers who have no idea about the essence of the scientific method. Some details of this law bear a distinct imprint of the petty vindictiveness of the main text developer - Vladimir Alexandrovich Mau, the member of the Russian Academy of Sciences under the Russian government, and the Russian Academy of National Economy, 2008 of the Academy of National Economy, not elected in 2002. and the civil service under the President of the Russian Federation, formed by the infusion of the Russian Academy of State Service under the President of the Russian Federation (the former Academy of Social Sciences under the Central Committee of the CPSU) at the Russian Academy of National Economy, the faithful partner in crime Yegor Tim rovicha Gaidar and Anatoly Chubais. But on the whole, the law is based on the same concept of libertarianism, which reduces all ideas about the benefits and development to the immediate results of market transactions. And the reason for its adoption is obvious: the academic project is based on the fundamental rejection of libertarianism in favor of state planning of the complex of the national economy as a whole. Based on this, I suppose that the current economic bloc of the Russian government is affected by libertarianism incurably and is not even able to understand - and not what to accept - tips coming from other concepts. Even if it is necessary to replace not only the ministers themselves, but also the entire ministerial apparatus, selected for the same concept of libertarianism, spread from Gorbachev's time in our country, like tobacco under Peter I Alekseevich Romanov, even if new people prove themselves (as Mikhail Leonidovich warned Khazin) are not versed in hardware technologies, so the quality of management of the economy will drop dramatically for several years - it is still immeasurably cheaper than moving further along the libertarian path leading to — as the government’s reaction shows Decrees of the President - is not a dead end, and to the edge.
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  1. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 8 December 2013 07: 34
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    Our government consists of shopkeepers and swindlers. They can masterfully deceive people into thimbles. Then consider the received grandmother and all. If, as they say, the market organizes itself, then why are they?
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 8 December 2013 07: 40
      25
      You answer your own question, why then are they?. Count received grandmas and all.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 8 December 2013 09: 29
        +9
        In the next world, grandmothers won’t help. Was, I know. A joke, or maybe not.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 8 December 2013 15: 28
          +4
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          . Was, I know. A joke, or maybe not.

          Continuing black humor.

          The grave.
          We have a limited life
          Years run by not loving us!
          We do "grandma" as we can
          Trying to exalt yourself?

          How often is not fair
          Does life happen to us in life?
          But all equalize the grave
          Open mouth beckoning!

          Is there freedom, equality and fraternity ???
      2. Selendis
        Selendis 8 December 2013 10: 37
        +4
        consider the received grandmothers - hmm, looks like accounting in the company)))
    2. kris
      kris 8 December 2013 10: 21
      19
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Our government consists of shopkeepers and swindlers. They can masterfully deceive people into thimbles. Then consider the received grandmother and all. If, as they say, the market organizes itself, then why are they?

      if Putin does not disperse them, then they do everything as he intended.

      Article 111 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

      1. The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation with the consent of the State Duma.
      1. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 8 December 2013 13: 30
        10
        Chris. Sorry, but you think in terms of a teenager. They have only two colors in use: white and black and no midtones.
        The bacchanalia of liberalism in our country went from Yeltsin (be it not okay).
        Since then, the grouping of these figures (liberals) in power has not weakened enough to deal effectively with them. They can be removed quickly only in one way, to the wall and a bullet in the back of the head. But. This can only be done through the Revolution.
        But I myself will shoot such "revolutionaries" with my own hand. Enough for us Revolutions. The slow path is exactly the one the President is following. Slowly but surely, he will bring the situation in the country down so that these liberoids themselves will run away from here.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 8 December 2013 16: 22
          +8
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          The slow way, this is exactly the way the President is going. Slowly but surely, he will fail the situation in the country so that these liberoids themselves flee from here.

          If he “leads the situation” with the same speed as he does for 13 years, then when will we come to the “bright future?” Putin is 60 years old now. If only by the time he rolls into senile insanity, and then if he will survive? what Or do not live so much?
          Well, if it's serious. Your post is standard: "the king is good, the boyars of the village are making such a setup."
          Boring, however ...... Come up with something newer.
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          Since then, the grouping of these figures (liberals) in power has not weakened enough to deal effectively with them. They can be removed quickly only in one way, to the wall and a bullet in the back of the head. But. This can only be done through the Revolution.
          But I myself will shoot such "revolutionaries" with my own hand

          So you (horror!) Liberal comes out.
          Well, and in addition .... after all, revolutionaries also probably know how to shoot. Or maybe even better than you?
          How is this option?
          1. Just Vasilich
            Just Vasilich 8 December 2013 17: 41
            +6
            Baltic-18: If he “manages the situation” with the same speed as he does for 13 years, then when will we come to the “bright future?” Putin is 60 years old now.

            That's right, Baltic. Putin is not eternal. And if he really wants to resolve the situation in favor of the people, it is time for him to make a decision and act radically.

            It’s like when taking off an airplane - the strip can be 5 kilometers, but you need to break away from it much earlier if you really decided to take off, and not roll to the end on low thrust.

            In my opinion, the time for making a decision has just come, it's time to "take the helm". In this regard, for some reason I pin my hopes on the future 12 December Message from the President to the Federal Assembly. Maybe, finally, will please the soul?
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 8 December 2013 18: 20
              0
              Quote: Just Vasilich
              And if he really wants to resolve the situation in favor of the people, it is time for him to make a decision and act radically.

              For example, what decisive and cardinal actions should he perform?
              1. Just Vasilich
                Just Vasilich 8 December 2013 18: 32
                +4
                Cosmos: For example, what decisive and cardinal actions should he perform?

                For example, launch a constitutional review mechanism. She, adopted in the time of Yeltsin under the dictation of the West, is exactly 20 years old. It’s time to edit the basic law of the country ... Or does it suit everyone? Or again, the time has not come?
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                2. SPACE
                  SPACE 8 December 2013 19: 17
                  -2
                  What will it give?
                  1. Just Vasilich
                    Just Vasilich 8 December 2013 19: 50
                    +2
                    The legal field for the sovereign development of a country in the interests of its people. I believe you are familiar with the works of your like-minded Nikolai Starikov. But just in case, I give the link: http://flibusta.net/b/216843
                    1. aksakal
                      aksakal 8 December 2013 22: 30
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                      Quote: Just Vasilich
                      Maybe, finally, will please the soul?

                      Quote: SPACE
                      For example, what decisive and cardinal actions should he perform?

                      Quote: Just Vasilich
                      Or is he happy with everyone? Or again, the time has not come?

                      Quote: SPACE
                      What will it give?


                      Quote: Just Vasilich
                      The legal field for the sovereign development of a country in the interests of its people. I believe you are familiar with the works of your like-minded Nikolai Starikov. But just in case, I give the link: http://flibusta.net/b/216843


                      Good evening! It is nice to see fellow countrymen deciding the fate of a friendly country -))) You can join, also decide someone's fate hunting -))))
                  2. Normal
                    Normal 9 December 2013 00: 04
                    +4
                    Quote: SPACE
                    What will it give?

                    Serdyukov in court!
                    What will it give?

                    Kaznokradov to the answer!
                    What will it give?

                    Medvedev to resign!
                    What will it give?

                    Freedom to Kvachkov!
                    What will it give?

                    Limit the growth of housing and communal services tariffs and natural monopolies!
                    What will it give?

                    Finally close, damn it, "House-2"!
                    What will it give?

                    Yes, hell knows! Maybe it won’t give anything ... But I really want to!
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 8 December 2013 23: 12
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            Quote: baltika-18
            liberal comes out. Well, and in addition .... because revolutionaries also probably know how to shoot. Or maybe even better than you? How is this option?

            - Dear, Jallo meant if the revolutionaries did start shooting, only in this case he would shoot. And if the revolutionaries, too, turn out to be not easily sewn up, I’m playing around in your favorite daredevils, but oh well, we believe in the heroism and courage of your favorites, then you already went through it. Since 1917 and almost all of the twenties. Are you few? Have rakes become your favorite? Well rake, but the heart still believes in miracles? Why are you feeling bad now, without a revolution? Are you starving? Maybe I can help with what? Really and seriously, you will scrape the flour for you. What does it take? Do you see Kyrgyzstan? Look at neighboring Ukraine. What Sharia has slipped into Libya - do not you see? But no, Russia is special, everything will be different in a different way. This revolution in other countries is degenerating into something ugly and bloody, in Russia it’s just roses - roses! And immediately the standard of living is higher than the United States. And Stalin is guaranteed to come, well, at 100%, he cannot but come. Not some Pol Pot who cut out the light half of his country, namely Stalin.
            Somehow I thought you were smarter, here with this post I'm directly lost. If you worry about the greatness of Russia, about international weight and prestige - you can see from the latest diplomatic victories - this is the maximum speed, there’s simply no way faster, because it doesn’t happen faster. People all must have time to rethink the place of Russia.
            If for economic growth - let Putin worry. He will delay and screw up - he will get the most, do not play around. I myself sit and hope - even here specialists from the Higher School of Economics (oh horror!) Recently admitted that now a PLANNED ECONOMY would help Russia, though they immediately made a reservation that a return to a planned economy is impossible. This reservation has some logic, well, here I am a private engineer, what, someone from the mayor's office will come to me and say: "Your plan for this month is so much?" Here it is necessary to somehow modify the planned economy to fit the specifics of a multi-structured economy, but no one has really thought about this yet - some extremes. Either libertarianism of pure water, or we call Udaltsov and all private traders to the wall.
            Are you worried about corruption? Do not worry, you obviously exaggerated the extent of corruption in Russia, in the United States it is not less. There, just bulls can do less, and Jupiters have unlimited rights, generally unlimited. "HellyBurton" is an example of this with Dick Cheney. In Russia, it is a little different. Although I agree - there is little pleasant in this level of corruption. But not to lead to the revolution because of this?
            I see no reason for your desire to "revolutionize". To take away from those walking in the deserts of Israel "Russian wealth - this does NOT NEED a REVOLUTION! Just nationalize it to Hodor, so that it would not be boring. Raising pensions for vulnerable segments of the population is also not necessary for revolution!"
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 9 December 2013 00: 03
              +1
              Quote: aksakal
              Somehow I thought you were smarter, here with this post I'm directly lost

              You have inattentively read his comment and you have already drawn conclusions.
              Quote: aksakal
              I see no reason for your desire to "revolutionize

              I am sure he does not have such a desire and did not have it.
              These are just fantasies of Nicholas superimposed on the fantasies of Vladimir.
    3. Andrey57
      Andrey57 8 December 2013 10: 49
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      You, dear, are deeply mistaken, this whole company is deliberately set to destroy the country's industry, and they do not need to count the "grandmas" - they run the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, a semi-private shop that MONOPOLO owns a printing press and monetary management, while not subordinate to anyone, and besides, it has 50% of the profit from printing money, another 50% goes to the budget. On the monetary units of the Russian Federation, you will not find a single symbol of the state, be it a coat of arms or a flag. Moreover, the Central Bank's status is not even defined - it is not on the list of state authorities listed in the constitution, and at the same time, NOBODY can influence the policy of the Central Bank. Accordingly, as long as the Central Bank is at the helm of the Nabiullins, Silanovs and those who steer them, one cannot even dream of any intelligible policy regarding the country's economic recovery!
      And here is how they "rule" the destruction of the country, a quote from the "founders":
      Let me manage the country's money, and I will not care about those who write its laws.
      M. Rothschild, banker
    4. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 8 December 2013 12: 28
      +2
      Hi, here you are wrong. If anyone gets into the government, then it’s recommended that you know what kind of experts you know, By the way, some activist of this academy was in Vesti-24, so he said that they were provided with the funds plus they are being helped by the sponsors, Another point of expertise of this Academy are crucial and serve as the basis for the government so it’s probably worth understanding everything written above, only a short remark on the KP channel (Komsomolskaya Pravda) there commented on the meeting of the President with his supporters an interesting recognition erupted, the deputies who are engaged in defense said something, Rogozin managed to that never in the modern history of Russia has succeeded, He managed to organize both management and enterprises in such a way that the state order was fulfilled despite some failures at the highest level, and here interesting statements are immediately visible, For almost a year our liberal experts were not strangers predicting that the defense industry would not what is expected of her, Even here we slipped if it’s not Senka’s hat, I even think the results that the defense showed were unexpected even for those in power, It seems to me even there the government didn’t really believe it, And against the background of the scandals that shock the country it was very interesting for me to listen to Medvedev (his conversation with the leading TV channels) the feeling is ambivalent as you like, He speaks beautifully and not one clear reference point is there though there is control let it be there it is optimal, the main thing is there is no mistake, where does such confidence come from, They do not appear immediately just after some time, And about the emigrants simply shine, Why it was necessary to fence the Customs Union, it seemed to me that the inhabitants of these countries, by definition, should apply first for jobs, He simply kept a modest silence, So he said from 2010-2011, as if nothing had changed, If so, we will remain with our problems one on one, Gorky does not add optimism,
    5. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 8 December 2013 12: 41
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      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Our government consists of shopkeepers and swindlers.

      Yes, but the trouble is that they are also incompetent in matters of governance, not only the government, but also the presidential apparatus itself. And the monstrous incompetence of these officials is a consequence of the fact that the decisive factor in the occupation of a particular position is not professional qualities, but a certain blat.
      Recall the coming to power of the GDP, who knew anything about him until then when he brought his EBN by the hand? What kind of feats did he perform in pre-presidential life to become so popular among the people? This we from the top of the pyramid began, what is going on below you will think up.
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      If, as they say, the market organizes itself, then why are they?


      The market is a convenient screen behind which you can hide your non-competence or intentional wrecking of the interests of the people of the Russian Federation. And in my opinion I can only believe in a self-regulating market ..... I will not break the rules wink
      As for us, citizens of the Russian Federation, being deprived of the Lawful ways to influence the government and the president, we can only discuss these problems in the kitchen. Or engage in self-deception that the Russian Federation is rising from its knees ... And in both cases, the result of the rulers is satisfied.
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 8 December 2013 14: 45
        +7
        The power of the liberals, led by Putin and Medvedev, will not be able to lift the Russian economy from its knees, since both of them preach the theory of Gaidar's liberals "the market will rule everything itself."
        Putin and Medvedev refuse state regulation and economic management, their planned development, continue the privatization of state property remnants.
        Focusing on the export of fuel and raw materials, they finally destroy industry and agriculture.
        Recently, having seen that their policy has led to a murderous decline in the state’s defense capabilities and external forces began to threaten their capitals and authorities, Putin and K are trying to feverishly restore the country's defense industry and increase the combat effectiveness of the destroyed Army.
        Only socially oriented forces that preach the ideology of state capitalism - socialism, if you will, in the main industries are able to raise and develop the Russian economy.
        Putin and K are not able to do this, no matter how Putin changes or rearranges his staff.
        The people of Russia need to realize this and at the next elections to provide an alternative to Putin and Co., in the form of a socially oriented party, instead of the United Russia party, which defends oligarchic capitalism.
        Everyone needs to understand Putin, there must be an alternative!
        An uncontested situation in relation to the first head of state is very dangerous! The destruction of Russia in the style of the USSR may be repeated.
    6. Cherdak
      Cherdak 8 December 2013 14: 53
      +9
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      They can masterfully deceive people into thimbles.


      Not certainly in that way. The United States is engaged in self-deception (if simplified, then see http://www.biografik.ru/stati/natsionalnie_osobennosti_rascheta_vvp_ssha.html), and after them the whole world. Now the main emphasis is on calculating GDP by summing up all expenses incurred - consumption, investment, government procurement of goods and services, as well as net exports (exports minus imports). Quietly pushed into a corner by calculating the sum of all income in the economy.

      But even so, at parity from 8th place in 2011, it moved smoothly to 5. Maybe Japan could do nothing by simply raising taxes and promoting the banking sector (for example, by pulling money out of the USA). The basic forecast for industrial production growth in the Russian Federation in 2013 is 3,0-3,1% and will obviously be exceeded (i.e., fairly stable dynamics), but it is leveled out by the exorbitantly bullied GDP deflator, which is an indicator of inflation.

      But Anatoly Wasserman is right in one thing - that bunch, which now sits in ministerial chairs - this is completely sucks. Government money should work in the bottlenecks of the economy, and not gather dust in America. Kudrin, a bad person, must sew mittens shoulder to shoulder with Khodorkovsky, and Medvedev with a group of associates is not very far from them to dig cesspools for reindeer.
    7. alone
      alone 8 December 2013 21: 39
      -1
      but what about the fact that the decrees do not correspond to reality and therefore impossible?
      Suppose I’m the president, and any of you, dear forum users, are the prime minister of the government. I issue a decree on raising salaries and pensions by 10 times, and you know that you’re not able to do this for the first time. How will you act?

      PS what Of course, dreaming is never harmful. If you really dream, then with chic.

      I would resign without delay if I were the prime minister. fellow and would run away to the village where there is a river. to fish (not to be confused with a pike of 27 kg laughing )
    8. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 9 December 2013 02: 20
      0
      You know all the facts and how do you get all the information from the special services to Wasser ??
      God forbid such as Wasserman in power. Chop and chop.
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 8 December 2013 07: 37
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    Anatoly is right again this time. Can not argue. However, I must admit why we have such a system of power? there are quite a lot of people claiming that we have a good president, a bad government. But this is the problem, the government (of ministers) is represented by the president. Why the President of Belarus can restore order in the country, and the President of Russia, only throws up his hands. Every 4 years we go to vote, and every 4 years we choose that pile of manure in which we live, a very strange constancy.
    1. My address
      My address 8 December 2013 08: 55
      15
      With you, Vladimir hi , not interested. Eavesdrop on my thoughts? Just kidding.
      I can only add questions:
      - The bulk of the ministers have achieved something good FOR THE COUNTRY in previous posts?
      - Are there many leaders in the vertical of power who are well remembered? (Do not bear in mind the cases when the next is even worse. For example, they scolded the governor of Sverdlovsk Region Misharin, so Kuyvashev turned out to be a miracle.)

      No answers. This is an assessment of the guarantor.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 8 December 2013 09: 01
        +6
        Quote: My address
        Did the bulk of ministers achieve something good FOR THE COUNTRY in previous posts?
        1. alone
          alone 8 December 2013 16: 07
          +1
          it's good if with butter. sometimes fig happens without butter)) laughing
    2. alone
      alone 8 December 2013 16: 06
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Every 4 years we go to vote, and every 4 years we choose that pile of manure in which we live, a very strange constancy.


      You yourself answered your question. Yes, every 4 years you go and vote. And you choose your own power. So the people want to live as they live. And there is nothing to be done about it.
      You think if you choose another, something will change? I don’t think. Everything is anointed with one blood.
      and power and opposition.
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 8 December 2013 07: 39
    +9
    "expresses well, dog. study, kitty" (c)
    when the teddy bear has been pushed into a corner so that even the ears aren’t visible? Probably the most effective would be to put the Cabinet, the State Duma, the Senate on the mole until they begin to work normally. And why do they visit unrealizable dreams in the mornings?
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 8 December 2013 08: 16
      10
      Quote: andrei332809
      the most effective would be to put the Cabinet, the State Duma, the Senate on the mole, until they begin to work normally

      I agree with you. Make the salary of this whole codela dependent on the growth / decline of the economy in the country.
      No growth, get a minimum (something about six thousand rubles), like everything in the country.
  4. 31231
    31231 8 December 2013 07: 41
    0
    By the way, does Onotole have Russian citizenship? If not, then it's time for him to register. Nenka goes to Europe.
  5. makarov
    makarov 8 December 2013 07: 48
    10
    Have you tried to PLANT for failure to comply with the presidential decrees? Perhaps this is the most effective medicine for pro-government simulators ... preferably in batches .. with confiscation .. indicatively .. I think a couple of ships and everything will change instantly. and such methods will show that the reason is not the liberals and their search, but simple pofuism and parochialism, where even the most overwhelming official from Mukhosran considers himself an indispensable "navel of the Earth" ..
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 8 December 2013 08: 22
      12
      Quote: makarov
      And did you try to plant for failure to comply with the decrees of the president? Perhaps this is the most effective medicine for pro-government simulators ... preferably in packs .. with confiscation .. indicative .. I think a couple of ships and everything will change instantly.

      Something I doubt it. So Wasserman says why. It's all about the libertarian system. In the self-esteem of the state from economic activity for the sake of Western capital. So plant, do not plant nothing will change.
      It is necessary to change the economic system and move from private capitalism to state capitalism, and better to a planned socialist economy.
  6. Sakmagon
    Sakmagon 8 December 2013 07: 50
    12
    Smart man, but:
    The state should be on this theory, in the best case, an arbiter ensuring compliance with the rules of the game - but the game itself should only be played by private individuals who are in no way connected with the state. This option works well while ... the external environment contributes to the success of individuals ... in the midst of an economic crisis no doubt direct and very active state intervention is required ... in those places where the state does not operate at all, depression is especially difficult.

    And all the hell to a penny! Why smear on 700 words?
    "The order should be short, clear and simple so that the reader understands in any case, even when he did not want to understand."
    Marshal Malinovsky R.Ya.

    This does not mean that the decrees themselves are erroneous. This only proves that the theory used by the government is erroneous.

    Mistaken Used by the Government practice... Until a SPECIFIC person is appointed for the execution of a specific decree, who bears SPECIFIC PERSONAL and REAL (and not "parole") responsibility, decrees may not be written at all. Since there is no one to ask from, they will perform only what is profitable.
  7. demotivator
    demotivator 8 December 2013 07: 55
    27
    Well, this virtuoso Wasserman, we must give him his due. There is a lot and bad about the government, and not a word about its head. Meanwhile, our prime minister is still a figure! And what kind of lawyer he is - you just have to laugh. Just the other day, he spoke to a journalistic fraternity and said with a clever look that we could not sign the 20th article of the UN Convention against Corruption, since we have a rule of law state. This article de, proceeding from the so-called “objective imputation” - that is, there is no legal income for the ruble’s castle, but there is a castle — violates the presumption of innocence of the ruble’s thief. But what the hell is a rule-of-law state if a thief in it is protected by law and by constitution? It was then purely thieves, pure kleptocracy, no matter how you cover it in legal terms! Regarding frequent air crashes, he claims that there was a shortage of pilots in the country - he took it and took shape; and our wise rulers found a brilliant way: to hire foreign guest performers. Like, now they are doing all over the world. That is, for us, replacing planes and pilots from relatives to non-relatives, the whole world is an example for us, but not an example for fighting thieves! But for what purpose was this booth live? It is not difficult to understand: people have uncomfortable questions accumulating, and not giving them any choice at all is a dangerous set of steam that threatens all kinds of Maidan. To answer such a first person is not a royal matter, as they say. And to make the closest jester responsible for all this is a good creative move! He reduced the whole “seriousness” to laughter - but he let off steam, flattered those sharks so democratic, cross-legged, contact with the authorities - after which it was not convenient for them to bare their teeth.
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 8 December 2013 10: 37
      +6
      and with a clever look, said that we cannot sign the 20th article of the UN Convention against Corruption, since we have a rule of law state.

      I also listened live to this passage. And very offended. After all, he considers me an idiot. But I dare to assure, HE is deeply mistaken.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 8 December 2013 10: 45
        +8
        Quote: GrBear
        I also listened live to this passage. And very offended.

        And when he said that he likes to work as prime minister, I was not happy either ...
      2. demel2
        demel2 8 December 2013 20: 55
        +3
        He, and not only he, but the whole elite considers us all to be idiots judging by their speeches, and especially deeds.
    2. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 8 December 2013 13: 47
      +1
      Forgive me, I would like to know how many boobies signed and accepted this article, I mean states, Probably someone has information I really want to look at this list, And why is our chief lawyer so afraid of us poor and unfortunate, Please share, A ate honestly on a thief, the hat burns probably not in vain people said so
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 8 December 2013 14: 01
        +4
        In fact, the matter is a little different.
        As of September 2013, the UN Convention against Corruption has not been ratified by a significant number of states, for example, Germany, New Zealand, the Czech Republic and Japan have not ratified the Convention.

        Moreover, even in states that have ratified the Convention, the article “illegal enrichment” is not introduced into the legislation. The offense of “illicit enrichment” or the like is absent in at least the following states:
        * The Netherlands
        * Belgium
        * Italy
        * Portugal
        * Switzerland
        * Finland
        * Norway
        * France
        * USA
        * Spain
        * Sweden
        * Denmark

        The representatives of these countries indicate three reasons why article 20 is not introduced into their legislation.

        Firstly, the concept of “illegal enrichment” is contrary to the constitutions of most countries, as it implies the presumption of guilt.

        Secondly, in these countries there are usually articles that imply automatic criminal recognition of the income of people who are already caught in some serious crime like drug trafficking or pimping.

        Thirdly, the fulfillment of the spirit of Article 20 is ensured in these countries through the mechanism of the mandatory declaration of income of officials and the punishment for incorrect data in declarations. Russia follows the same path - tightens control over the property of officials.

        It should also be noted that the crime of “illegal enrichment” was not even in the USSR. Contrary to a widespread misconception, under the Soviet regime they could also be imprisoned only for a specific crime: like speculation or currency transactions.

        Therefore, it is not the laws, but their enforcement.
      2. military
        military 9 December 2013 12: 38
        0
        Quote: igor.borov775
        And why is our chief lawyer so afraid of us poor and unhappy

        it was our chief security officer who ordered him ...
        stamped his feet ... threatened to take the yotafon if it could not cope ...
    3. Goldmitro
      Goldmitro 8 December 2013 14: 24
      +3
      <<< Demotivator
      The other day he (LADY) spoke to the journalistic fraternity and with a clever air said that we cannot sign the 20th article of the UN Convention against Corruption, since we have a rule of law. >>>
      Well, of course, how can we follow various other, it turns out, UNLAWFUL states that have signed the Convention together with Article 20 - they are not an example for us! Is it worth it then to play out this spectacle called "the fight against corruption" in front of society, if the Prime Minister himself is so zealous (with legal argumentation), directly calling things by their proper names, defending the interests of the bureaucracy, mired in corruption and embezzlement - these "effective managers "
    4. military
      military 9 December 2013 13: 33
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      Meanwhile, our prime minister is still a figure! ... Just the other day, he spoke to a journalistic brotherhood and said with a smart look ...

      "A smart face is not yet a sign of intelligence. All stupid things on earth are done with this facial expression ..." (c)
  8. kaktus
    kaktus 8 December 2013 08: 11
    +7
    And time is running out ... angry
  9. treskoed
    treskoed 8 December 2013 08: 25
    11
    Cadres decide everything! - said the wise I.V. Stalin. Now let's see who works in the government by profession!
  10. individual
    individual 8 December 2013 08: 33
    16
    It once again confirms that the curse of the liberals of the Chubais call prevails over the Russian economy.
    Gaydarovschina continues to influence the economic policy of the government.
    GDP can be seen so due to this *** that it can not do anything.
    He is a slave to his "galley" and is tightly chained to the past.
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 8 December 2013 13: 05
      +3
      Look at what Mr. Medvedev, the main fighter against corruption, did when he was president, he cleaned the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation so that for the untouchables they can’t find an article, in principle, this is another scandal. For the RF IC, it’s just a dead end. and an interesting moment looms on the horizon, It’s called the Statute of limitations on such approximately interesting matters, So think what threatens him, I said that I have a dual assessment of this Mr. And forget about article 20 such lawyers will not let her through, There are boobies gathered that they wrote nonsense, AND YOU still had some doubts,
  11. BBM
    BBM 8 December 2013 08: 46
    -12 qualifying.
    but noble this Jew is able to twist z.y. and most importantly, as a voice.
  12. Koronik
    Koronik 8 December 2013 08: 54
    0
    I don’t even know how to evaluate Wasserman’s article A; Replacing the government will not give anything a shot either, how to train precisely the young cadres that Russia will need, where in the USA, Germany, Israel? Or all the same, in our Russian Academy, then by whom?
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 8 December 2013 14: 08
      +2
      Yes, it’s very simple that you need to know the opinion of those institutes that deal with these problems, But here the Gaidar’s problem will not allow this; another opinion may mean the end of some careers in the government and there everything is almost like brothers, see how they cover each other fiercely, you don’t understand who screwed up, I’m talking about Serdyukov, he’s not silent for nothing, At present, silence is gold in its present form,
  13. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 December 2013 08: 59
    +2
    Quote: BBM
    but noble this Jew is able to twist z.y. and most importantly, as a voice.

    Sings sweetly! they know how to find pain points in the souls of ordinary people and competently tinker there ..
  14. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 8 December 2013 09: 08
    +1
    I agree. Without the significant impact of the state, our economy will be in the ass.
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 8 December 2013 09: 10
    +4
    As always, Wasserman very clearly laid out everything on the shelves, even the most "gifted" became clear! It just takes evil from the activities of the liberal traitor in the government and the whole trouble is that the liberal gang convinces everyone and everything that there is no one else to rule the state besides them Everywhere you look, the same faces, boring since the time of EBN and moving from one corner to another, but always in power. Isn't it time the respected Guarantor of the Constitution to move this whole gang horizontally, say, to Kolyma. After all, in the past any the authorities did just that with the traitors.
    1. military
      military 9 December 2013 13: 48
      +1
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      No matter where you look, the same faces have been bored since the days of EBN and are moving from one corner to another, but always in power. But is it time for the respected Guarantor of the Constitution to move this gang horizontally, well, let's say Kolyma. Any power in the past so did the traitors.

      treason to the people and treason to the guarantor - far from the same ...
      the guarantor does not surrender his ... even if "his" are crooks and traitors to the people ...
      hence the question ... "Whose are you, crooks? ..."
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 10 December 2013 08: 48
        0
        In my opinion, I did not talk about treason to the Guarantor, you added it on your own! But you still agree: there is a huge opposition to everything that the President is carrying out, and the question "whose crook?" The relevant authorities will find an answer! the liberal government was not originally a "friend" of the people!
        1. Normal
          Normal 10 December 2013 09: 16
          +1
          Quote: kartalovkolya
          .... it is clear: the liberal government was not originally a "friend" of the people!

          But is a friend of the Guarantor
          1. military
            military 10 December 2013 10: 02
            +1
            Quote: Normal
            But is a friend of the Guarantor

            friends of the guarantor are perceived as enemies of the people ...
            "Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are ..."
        2. military
          military 10 December 2013 10: 23
          +1
          Quote: kartalovkolya
          In my opinion, I did not speak of treason to the Guarantor; you added it from yourself!

          that is, the "faces" you mentioned did not betray the guarantor? ... only the people ... and at the same time, they are liberals, bastards and traitors, and the guarantor is a goody in pink? ... belay and you know ... what I even agree with you ... there was no betrayal of the guarantor on the part of these "liberal traitors" ... yes
          Quote: kartalovkolya
          Although it is clear without them: the liberal government was not originally a "friend" of the people!

          of course, of course ... as you can ... there is only one friend of the people ... the one ... to whom the traitors did not change ... hi
  16. koksalek
    koksalek 8 December 2013 10: 00
    -2
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Every 4 years we go to vote, and every 4 years we choose that pile of manure in which we live, a very strange constancy.

    Come on, about the elections, you’ve obviously gone too far, because we don’t choose, but they choose us.
  17. Normal
    Normal 8 December 2013 10: 06
    +3
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Anatoly is right again this time. Can not argue.
    I'll try.

    Quote: andrei332809
    "expresses well, dog. study, kitty" (c)
    There is such a thing.

    Quote: Sacmagon
    Smart man, but:
    He’s lying. Lies cleverly and competently. So not everyone can see it.

    Quote: demotivator
    Well, this virtuoso Wasserman, we must give him his due
    Well, Wasserman ... Not "Ivanov" laughing

    Quote: BBM
    but noble this Jew is able to twist z.y.
    A trait of a national character, however.

    Quote: Koronik
    I don’t even know how to evaluate article Wasserman
    As another attempt to blame for the failure to fulfill the impossible and intended not for fulfillment, but solely for raising the President’s rating and self-decree, Decrees on third-party persons or even on some idea, attitude or theory.

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Sings sweetly!
    Of course, otherwise they will not listen.

    Quote: kartalovkolya
    As always, Wasserman very clearly laid out everything on the shelves, even the most "gifted" became clear!
    And what did you understand?


    And so, before us is another attempt to launder a black male to white.
    The president issued the correct, necessary and timely decrees, and some unnamed pests (except perhaps Mau), under the leadership of an unnamed, prime minister appointed by the president, strongly resist their execution. Libertarianism does not allow them to fulfill presidential decrees.
    What does not allow the president to recruit a team that with zeal and pleasure will fulfill his decrees, the author does not indicate. Probably all too libertarianism.

    In our country, the government is guided by the theory which, in case of a depression, prescribes the maximum departure of the state from active activities. What happens at the same time is evident, in particular, just from what the government says about the impracticability of presidential decrees. Who says this in plain text, who veiled - reporting that, they say, we are trying our best, but for some reason, so far nothing is working. But in any case, it is completely obvious: the government, guided by this theory, is indeed deliberately unable to execute any decree of any relevance to the economy.


    Everything would be right if we forget that it is the president who determines the policy. If the government, headed by the prime minister appointed by the president, pursues such a policy and is not dismissed by the president, then this is precisely what the president wants. And the decrees ... this is for the general public. To keep thinking that the president is wow!
    And so that doubts do not arise, there is Wasserman.
    1. optimist
      optimist 8 December 2013 10: 32
      +7
      Quote: Normal
      Everything would be right if we forget that it is the president who determines the policy. If the government, led by the prime minister appointed by the president, pursues such a policy and is not dismissed by the president, that is precisely what the president wants. And the decrees ... this is for the general public. So that they continue to think that we have a president! And so that doubts do not arise, there is Wasserman.

      Gold words! Any power, if it has at least some brains, keeps heaps of "Wassermans" explaining to us, sirms and poor, why the "king" is "Dartnyan", and the boyars are 3,14daras. So under the sweet 3,14 ryezh we "stock up on popcorn" and wait, when, according to the classics, the "upper classes" will not be able to at all, and the "lower classes" will wake up and "do not want" at all ...
      1. Normal
        Normal 8 December 2013 11: 57
        0
        Quote: optimist
        Any power, if it has at least some brains, keeps heaps of "Wassermans" explaining to us, sirms and poor, why the "king" is "Dartnyan", and the boyars are 3,14daras.

        Alexey good drinks
        1. Yuri Y.
          Yuri Y. 8 December 2013 12: 51
          +6
          Quote: Normal
          And so that doubts do not arise, there is Wasserman.

          I don’t know what you attacked, attributing to him some claims. The man explained, from his point of view, the actions of provocation, leaving you the right to conclusions. Who appointed, who demanded what, who depends on what your right to think, and someone knows. Maybe he counted on your reaction if something is ascribed.
          1. Normal
            Normal 8 December 2013 13: 45
            -1
            Quote: Yuri Ya.
            The man explained, from his point of view, the actions of provocation, leaving you the right to conclusions.

            So I set out my conclusions. I have the right. yes
            1. Yuri Y.
              Yuri Y. 8 December 2013 14: 03
              0
              That's right, and there was no logical restriction in the article.
          2. Ivan.
            Ivan. 8 December 2013 18: 05
            0
            Quote: Yuri Ya.
            The man explained, from his point of view, the actions of provocation, leaving you the right to conclusions

            Well, I would still say "chewed" and they say we should swallow without thinking, this is the principle of any commentators.
            This does not mean that the decrees themselves are erroneous. This only proves that the theory used by the government is erroneous. Whether it is possible to ensure that this government acts according to a different theory, or it’s necessary to say that another government has begun to act - I don’t say exactly. But for me, it is much easier to replace the government than to continue the experiment with such small chances of successful completion.

            That is, it is not clear whether the theory is to blame or whether its creators ... it is necessary to change the performers maybe it will be good.
            I confess I didn’t read the article, I just looked it over, because usually he dilutes "jelly" after which there is even less clarity.
    2. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 8 December 2013 17: 12
      -3
      It seems to be nicknamed "normal", but you do not see the elementary or also a liberal? Now only the lazy one doesn’t throw everything on Putin, and to put it bluntly, he’s a very convenient figure: if he will achieve something good, declare it a merit of the liberal government, but no, no, no. And beware of judging Wasserman, I think you don't have enough brains for this! Anatoly Wasserman proved himself to be an independent and very decent person, so there is no reason not to believe him!
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 8 December 2013 10: 31
    +8
    It is right. A striking example of liberalistic insanity is the story of the country's unified energy system. Actions of one "wide-profile specialist" by
    the creation of a competitive environment in the interest of lowering tariffs, led to their insane growth, the appearance of a myriad of speculators and crooks who managed to break the world's strongest hydroelectric power station. Although, I remember, J. Alferov warned that it is forbidden to let people in the energy sector who, literally: do not even know what cos φ is in the energy sector.
    Therefore, at first it would be correct:
    To expel all lawyers and economists from the heads of relevant ministries, replacing them with professionals of the corresponding profile.
    Bring basic order with performing discipline. According to the results of the annual review of the activities of the subordinate organization in the government, it was merciless to dismiss those who failed. (As Sobyanin and the Kolokoltsev Ministry of Internal Affairs do in Moscow)
    1. matross
      matross 8 December 2013 18: 45
      +3
      Quote: Stinger
      To expel all lawyers and economists from the heads of relevant ministries,

      From non-core too! You can't even entrust the specialists of this "profile" to the brigade in the zone - the plan will not be fulfilled.
  19. taseka
    taseka 8 December 2013 10: 47
    +5
    Read again such a clever book by V. Pikul as - "FAVORIT" and you will understand that nothing has changed in the Russian state in relation to the thieves of the class - VIP
  20. Jarilo
    Jarilo 8 December 2013 10: 48
    +2
    In fact, a very convenient position for the government, you can not answer for anything. Therefore, they are unlikely to refuse it, if it does not become really bad.
  21. saxa2103
    saxa2103 8 December 2013 11: 02
    0
    Quote: Andrey57
    , at the Central tank even

    central tank ??? SOUND !!!
  22. Grbear
    Grbear 8 December 2013 11: 10
    +6
    Normal.

    All these Wasserman-ISMS and -STV are nothing more than the habit of the Soviet "kitchen" intelligentsia to express themselves in Aesopian language, multiplied by the Jewish positioning of itself in the world.

    In Russian, a review of the role of the State in economic regulation means a review of the results of privatization... Moreover, on this path there can be no half measures, because participants in the process of deprivatization set opposite goals for themselves and, in case of defeat, lose a lot. The "privatizers" are losing the trough, the "statesmen" are losing the state. It should be added that the entire Western political machine is behind the "privatizers". Therefore, deprivatization should be LIFely necessary (external threat, unbearable economic situation, etc.). And as long as the resources allow them to "hang out" in between, neither the President nor the Government will aggravate the situation. An example is the Economic Program of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

    The question is, where is the line or point of no return, when the "subsidence" of the industrial segment of the economy will put the country in a position unequivocal political and territorial dependence on "external" participants in the world market.
    1. optimist
      optimist 8 December 2013 11: 41
      +9
      Quote: GrBear
      The question is, where is the line or point of no return, when the "subsidence" of the industrial segment of the economy will put the country in a position of unambiguous political and territorial dependence on "external" participants in the world market.

      So I, too, am very interested in this question: where is the line beyond which even the most finished d. Moron will understand that the Russian Federation is in a deep ass. While at the very least, social services are being fulfilled. obligations, money is paid to cops, the military and officials, the current "vertical" will stand. It is likely that the situation after the limpiyada will be the trigger ...
    2. Ustas
      Ustas 8 December 2013 11: 51
      0
      Quote: GrBear
      In Russian, revising the role of the state in regulating the economy means revising the results of privatization. Moreover, on this path there can be no half measures, because participants in the process of deprivatization set opposite goals for themselves and, in case of defeat, lose a lot. The "privatizers" are losing the trough, the "statesmen" are losing the state.

      So, what is next? War?
      1. Normal
        Normal 8 December 2013 12: 31
        +2
        Quote: Ustas
        So, what is next? War?


    3. Normal
      Normal 8 December 2013 12: 20
      +9
      Quote: GrBear
      The question is, where is the line or point of no return, when the "subsidence" of the industrial segment of the economy will put the country in a position of unambiguous political and territorial dependence on "external" participants in the world market.

      Greetings, Mikhail Yuryevich.
      I think that we have passed the point of no return long ago. Russia's political dependence on the global financial elite is undeniable. I am not Fedorov and I will not talk about some kind of mythical "occupation", moreover, I believe that Russia's territorial dependence on external participants in the world market is not in the interests of the main puppeteers of this market. It is simpler and cheaper for the interests of the behind the scenes to be carried out by the local administration.
      Therefore, everything will continue for a sufficiently long time. The removal from power of the current comprador leadership of Russia is not primarily beneficial to the shadow leadership of the West, since with GDP everything goes according to plan. External and ostentatious dissatisfaction with Putin by official Western politicians should not deceive us. These are tactics, cover operations and theatricality.
      It is also not beneficial for the West that the current situation and dynamics of the dependence process become unambiguous and obvious to the population of Russia.
      1. varov14
        varov14 8 December 2013 19: 16
        +5
        I think exactly the same. One single, first time voted for Putin. Then, listening to his annual television broadcasts, I realized that he was an ordinary promise. Which, moreover, leads a double, possibly triple game, but obviously not to Russia's advantage. Still a professional.
  23. Stasi
    Stasi 8 December 2013 11: 18
    +8
    Making government work properly requires ministers to feel fear for their lives. Not for your income or position, but for your life. This should be the price of failure to comply with presidential decrees. It was a shame to see how Putin, having arrived in the Far East, helplessly asked officials: "Dear comrades, will you work or not?" In fact, such bureaucrats responsible for the development of the Far East should not just be thrown off their posts, but put under arrest and investigation, in which they explained why the implementation of the development strategy of the Far East was not from the place where the allocated funds were spent. Unfortunately, this practice dates back to Soviet times, when our entire elite and nomenclature became completely inviolable. The thieving official had nothing to fear, well, just think, they removed from one chair, put in another. This is the case now. Belarus is setting a good example in the fight against corruption. No matter how you treat Old Man, you should recognize the fact that he keeps order in Belarus. He does not allow his officials to steal. If not for Old Man, Belarus would have suffered the fate of Ukraine with its maidans and other chaos and chaos, multiplied by the impoverishment of the population. Putin does not have the will to go against the established system as it is now, because he comes from it. So there is no need to hope that the president will be able to act harshly in relation to the entire vertical of power and government, this will not happen. For this to happen, you need a person with the will of Stalin. Stalin was not afraid to go against the system by arranging the 37th year. Of course, then many innocent people suffered, but the government was cleared of thieves and traitors. The president will not dare to arrange such a purge now.
  24. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 8 December 2013 11: 53
    +1
    <<< Even if it is necessary to replace not only the ministers themselves, but the entire apparatus of the ministries, .......... even if the new people are not experienced in hardware technologies, .... - it is still immeasurably cheaper than further movement along the libertarian path leading - as the government's reaction to presidential decrees shows - is no longer even a dead end, but a cliff. >>>
    As the overthrow of the Provisional Government in the 17th would answer today - Yes! Replace, prematurely replace the entire apparatus of the government, immediately drive everyone in the neck! And he will be right! Well, how much more can you still stomp between a dead end and a cliff, allowing the liberal market trends only to do what to hang a science-based nano-noodle on the ears of society!
  25. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 December 2013 12: 01
    0
    Here ants can lift loads much heavier than their own weight. And the weight of the Russian economy is very great. And what can the government "elephants" lift?
  26. polkownik1
    polkownik1 8 December 2013 12: 11
    +1
    Vladimir Putin is held captive by the principle, which seems to him to be true: Horses do not change in the crossing! If we assume that we will get over the crossing, and then we will change, then this makes sense. But the fact is that sometimes you have to change your point of view in the literal sense. Those. look at the situation not from our leaky boat, but from above. Then we will see that our crossing is not across the river, but long ago. With the flow. The other shore is as far away as it was at the beginning. But, as our carefree and unsuitable prime minister says - "Comfortable!" No need to row ...
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 8 December 2013 17: 25
      -2
      Well, this principle is not ours, only a stupid American cowboy can come up with the idea of ​​changing horses at the crossing, and the Russian peasant always did this ahead of time, because he knew his horses well. Now the main task of the President is to "clean up" the main "comfortable" "the groom and his pitiful assistants. And we will sail in the right direction, because everyone will row!
      1. military
        military 10 December 2013 13: 20
        0

        Quote: kartalovkolya
        Right now, the main task of the President is to "clean up" the main "comfortable" groom and his pathetic assistants.

        strange ... but it seemed to me that the last 13 years its main task has been and remains - to stay at the helm ... probably, it seemed to me ... repeat
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        And sail in the right direction, because everyone will row!

        everyone who is supposed to be "rowing" with might and main ...
    2. military
      military 10 December 2013 13: 19
      0
      Quote: polkownik1
      Vladimir Putin is held captive by a principle that seems true to him: They do not change horses at the crossing!

      a strange "principle" ... smelling like a clinic ...
  27. slaventi
    slaventi 8 December 2013 12: 55
    +1
    Why government decrees are unbearable for the government

    Because our government serves another president, and implements the decrees of the IMF and the State Department.
    1. military
      military 10 December 2013 13: 33
      0
      Quote: slaventi
      Because our government serves another president, and implements the decrees of the IMF and the State Department.

      but "our" president stubbornly refuses to dismiss the government ... he probably does not see ... the vision of our "Kutuzov" fails ...
  28. poquello
    poquello 8 December 2013 13: 45
    +1
    nifiga did not understand, here are the may decrees
    - On the long-term state economic policy;

    - On measures to implement the demographic policy of the Russian Federation;

    - On measures to implement the foreign policy of the Russian Federation;

    - On the further improvement of military service in the Russian Federation;

    - On the implementation of plans / programs / construction and development of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military units and bodies and the modernization of the military-industrial complex;

    - On ensuring interethnic harmony;

    - On the main directions of improving the public administration system;

    - On measures to provide citizens of the Russian Federation with affordable and comfortable housing and improving the quality of housing and communal services;

    - On measures to implement state policy in the field of education and science;

    - On improving public policy in the field of healthcare;

    - On measures for the implementation of state social policy.

    Putin asks for them

    and this is the statement of Waserman
    "
    Even if it is necessary to replace not only the ministers themselves, but also the entire apparatus of the ministries, selected for the same concept of libertarianism planted in our country since Gorbachev’s times, like tobacco under Peter I Alekseevich Romanov, even if new people turn out to be (as Mikhail Leonidovich warned the same Khazin) are not sophisticated in hardware technology, so the quality of farm management will drop sharply for several years - it is still immeasurably cheaper than further movement along the libertarian path leading, as the government’s reaction to the president’s decrees shows, to a cliff rather than a dead end.
    "
    this is something with something, one "inexperienced" almost ruined the army, this type is not an example.
  29. saag
    saag 8 December 2013 14: 02
    +4
    Mr. Prime Minister reminds Kerensky, he also traveled around and convinced that everything in the country is good and that war must be waged to a victorious end, we are waiting for the 18th year :-)
  30. Fobos-grunt
    Fobos-grunt 8 December 2013 14: 12
    -2
    At the Americans - Zbigniew Bzhzinsky In Russia - Anatoly Wasserman
    Not a single "tollerast" will shut up the voice of Russia. Sly!
  31. konvalval
    konvalval 8 December 2013 14: 22
    +5
    Quote: makarov
    Have you tried to PLANT for failure to comply with the presidential decrees? Perhaps this is the most effective medicine for pro-government simulators ... preferably in batches .. with confiscation .. indicatively .. I think a couple of ships and everything will change instantly. and such methods will show that the reason is not the liberals and their search, but simple pofuism and parochialism, where even the most overwhelming official from Mukhosran considers himself an indispensable "navel of the Earth" ..

    Good idea. But the trouble is: "We are not 37 years old."
  32. Christian
    Christian 8 December 2013 14: 27
    +5
    Why government decrees are unbearable for the government
    because they were pure populism. Putin initially knew about their impracticability in the thieves' common fund he had created.
  33. VADEL
    VADEL 8 December 2013 14: 52
    +3
    He performed well in "Own Game", where the question must be given a specific correct answer. Here it looks like "Someone else's game": the water is wet, the break is not a dead end - a waterfall of unnecessary words.
    Vladimir Aleksandrovich Mau, who was not elected in 2008 as a corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, rector of the Academy of National Economy under the Government of the Russian Federation since 2002, and since 2010 of the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, formed by the infusion of the Russian Academy of Public Administration under President of the Russian Federation (former Academy of Social Sciences under the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union) at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy, faithful accomplice Yegor Timurovich Gaidar and Anatoly Borisovich Chubais.

    wassat
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 8 December 2013 15: 40
      +4
      Mr. Mau and his accomplice liberals, including Down and Putin, have their own game, and they don’t give a damn about the people.
  34. Black
    Black 8 December 2013 15: 14
    +5
    The master gentleman is always to blame. You can’t call our slave KM, those are still guys! But it’s always possible to blame them on the failure to fulfill what is obviously impossible within the framework of the current model of the economy.
    Putin is a politician, in this case a banal politician.
    1. military
      military 10 December 2013 13: 35
      0
      Quote: Chen
      Putin is a politician, in this case a banal politician.

      rather, a political conjuncturer ...
  35. Keeper
    Keeper 8 December 2013 15: 38
    +3
    All decrees are absolutely doable (read). It's just that the government is invited to move the rolls stronger, which are not used to shaking for the sake of the state!
    Now we are just screening out "those who are tired" of public service!
    And rightly so! Do not fig thieves "work" where you need to energetically cope with the tasks set ...
    Putin patiently removes from the government those who seek there only for their own interests ...
    1. creak
      creak 8 December 2013 21: 00
      +5
      Keeper
      Putin patiently removes from the government those who seek there only for their own interests [/ quote]


      And no less patiently appoints them as his assistants and advisers, where, of course, they will immediately forget about their interests and begin to work exclusively for the good of the people, should they remind their names?
    2. military
      military 10 December 2013 13: 40
      0
      Quote: Keeper
      Putin patiently removes from the government those who seek there only for their own interests ...

      It’s not easy to be patient, surrounded by professional ... laughing
  36. fumanchu
    fumanchu 8 December 2013 15: 55
    +7
    Maybe no one will believe me, but the problem of Russia in the most democratic system as in all countries of this world.
    Democracy never functioned. The Americans have come up with a modern model of democracy, as it allows them to put forward hirelings and puppets to important posts with the help of capital and successfully lobby the necessary laws behind the scenes.
    If anyone knows American history and their political system, he will understand that I am right.

    After the BBO, Americans imposed the key principles of their democracy on almost the whole world. And in the 90s and Russia. And there is nothing surprising in that the whole vertical of power is corrupt. This is true in the same England and Germany. Only there, politicians work for the powerful and are pawns. And in Russia, politicians work in their own pockets. That’s the whole difference.

    If the system itself is harmful, then you should not blame anyone. Live with wolves, howl like a wolf.
  37. homosum20
    homosum20 8 December 2013 16: 10
    +2
    It seems that the goal of Medvedev and his slaves in the cabinet is to lower the camp by the 90th.
    Is there someone else's here, but such a familiar influence? Is it time for Dmitry Anatolyevich to start working in his specialty - something legal?
  38. Unisonic
    Unisonic 8 December 2013 16: 15
    0
    On the brain! He needs to be prime ministers!
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 8 December 2013 17: 02
      +3
      Primakov needs Prime Ministers. Although he is old, he will pick up a normal team (as after the crisis of 98), there will be no butlers and chubais there.
  39. not good
    not good 8 December 2013 17: 23
    +3
    The government is "hammering a bolt" on the president’s orders, and all the dew of God is straight in the eyes. Well, at least he pretended to respect himself, he would scold and threaten, but no. It seems that they are trying to find the limit of the people's patience once again, since the people do not excite, then everything is in order, you can continue experimenting. And what is a shame because they live in this country, but they don’t think about its tomorrow. But when it explodes first it will wash away.
  40. sashka
    sashka 8 December 2013 17: 34
    0
    Now I watched the "performance" of the lady along with pu.Na the Main Cemetery. ... The guys light it up. And nothing will happen. Is it strange or not? Today all day the music thundered Laws for others. The whole day The people played a holiday. Explain what it was. ? Soviet songs and hymns. But the Communist Party has nothing to do with it. Are the people returning to the Origins?
  41. Motors1991
    Motors1991 8 December 2013 18: 12
    0
    Wasserman said, “A,” and should say, “B,.” With increasing state intervention in the economy, it should introduce state planning, and then obstacles immediately arise, the interests of wealthy individuals do not always coincide with the interests of the state, and as soon as they they’ll tweak their affairs at our expense, they’ll immediately shout about the inadmissibility of such an intervention in the economy. There are two ways at once: the first is Soviet, when almost any private initiative is crushed, enterprises work only by bank transfer and in order to get cash out of there, you need to be a real coryphaeus. And the second way is where we flounder, the ball is ruled by financiers and economists who are very far from real production with corresponding results.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 8 December 2013 19: 23
      +2
      Quote: Motors1991
      Soviet, when almost every private initiative is crushed

      You are mistaken, this is not the quality of the Soviet system, it is the efforts of the fifth column during the Troubles of 1917, which took root in power. Kagaly have thousands of years of experience in fighting competition. I advise every resident of not only Russia to read the "book of the kagala"
      Then I would say there are much more ways; our choices are artificially limited.
      1. Motors1991
        Motors1991 8 December 2013 20: 32
        +4
        I judge, as a practitioner, in Soviet times and at the present time I had to manage large enough teams. So at the enterprise level the difference is not very big, the same planning, the same requirements for implementing the plan, I would say in Soviet times they asked a lot tougher , you could be given an impossible task (especially the party organs dabbled in this) and no one was interested in how you would deal with it, if you did it: well done, no: you could chop off your head. But there is one significant difference: appropriation of the surplus product, now it’s in whose a specific pocket or pockets, and then into a common piggy bank. As for the competition, which the Liberians like to brag about, then it also took place, it may not be so pronounced, but you can believe me, at meetings everyone looked at that one who turned out to be faster All honors and glories to him. Yes, and honestly, in the current monopolized age, competition is fiction, the product of several people conspiring.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 8 December 2013 21: 08
          0
          Quote: Motors1991
          And frankly, in the current monopolized century, competition is a fiction, a product of the collusion of several people.

          I am right about that too.
          Quote: Motors1991
          especially party authorities dabbled in this

          This is what I’m talking about.
          Quote: Motors1991
          Now she goes into someone’s specific pocket or pockets, and then into the common piggy bank.

          Then a smaller part fell into this pocket, now it’s big but the same pocket. One of the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR is that the owners of these pockets could not openly receive what their counterparts received oligarchs abroad. Read the book all the same, I promise it will not be a lost time.
        2. fedval7560
          fedval7560 8 December 2013 21: 47
          +1
          Correctly. And as always, science is not heard by all smart ones. Yes ... will there be a shift, how much ..... A
  42. makarov
    makarov 8 December 2013 18: 28
    0
    Quote: konvalval
    Good idea. But the trouble is: "We are not 37 years old."


    You want to say that Power will be bloated only after 24 years. This is exactly how long the officials will "put the device" on everything and everyone ....
  43. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 8 December 2013 19: 33
    +4
    I think we have one way. Remove the entire government with the exception of technical workers so that there would be someone in revenge, and send the oligarchs to the Azores or any other islands, only to hell. Property to nationalize without any ransom (contrary to Putin's words). What is received free of charge must be returned free of charge. This is the cheapest way and the pace of development will be like under Stalin.
  44. andr327
    andr327 8 December 2013 19: 39
    0
    It's simple: our cabinet is like our forum: everyone is smart, everyone knows everything. one small difference, we simply cannot (not allowed) solve the problems of the Fatherland, but they do not want to.
  45. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 December 2013 20: 22
    0
    As always, dear A. Wasserman is right. To the question "Who is to blame?" the answer is given. There is no answer to the question "What to do?" ...
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 9 December 2013 08: 44
      0
      I agree with you one hundred percent, but "What to do?" Everyone decides for himself. I want to notice that there are so many freaks among us who are ready to troll everyone and everything to please the most implacable enemies of the country that you are amazed! And if you tell them about it, there are solid cons , and all that comes from them is a bunch of abominations and shit. It's time to fight them back in the "Voennoye Obozreniye" - they are very comfortable here. This will be our, albeit modest answer to the question "What to do?"
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 9 December 2013 10: 26
        +2
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        I agree with you one hundred percent, but "What to do?" Everyone decides for himself. I want to notice that there are so many freaks among us who are ready to troll everyone and everything to please the most implacable enemies of the country that you are amazed! And if you tell them about it, there are solid cons , and all that comes from them is a bunch of abominations and shit. It's time to fight them back in the "Voennoye Obozreniye" - they are very comfortable here. This will be our, albeit modest answer to the question "What to do?"

        In support of your words, anonymous minuses to you and me.
  46. Megre
    Megre 8 December 2013 20: 43
    +3
    Maybe the book has an answer to this question?
  47. fedval7560
    fedval7560 8 December 2013 21: 43
    +3
    In general, it is not clear why, the government never listens to science, well, never. And the incomprehensible ideas of some effective managers are being adopted. Science itself is ministers with a mustache. Even the economic forum for them on the drum.
  48. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2013 23: 08
    +4
    I agree with Wasserman, but does the GDP really not understand that the government is stepping somewhere in the wrong direction?
    We are not the country to eliminate state control over the economy ... Or, more precisely, it was early to sell entire sectors to private hands. As a result, anarchy reigns in the upper echelons. The President is not a decree for them ...
    And then we wonder why the orders of the Guarantor are not executed.
    More and more often, seditious thought visits me - to dissolve the current government, and appoint a new cabinet from the members of the Communist Party. China is a good example.
    Western patterns only worsen the situation.
    My comment, of course, is not a serious conclusion, but rather a banter on the topic ...
  49. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 9 December 2013 02: 06
    +1
    Late, sorry. However, a positive reaction to Wesserman. drinks
    And you did not think that you can even cancel the prime minister’s place.?
  50. sasska
    sasska 12 December 2013 00: 13
    0
    Quote: Megrae
    Maybe the book has an answer to this question?

    for the "furry reader" - netuti

    PS: my friend knows the character - we met at conferences while teaching. opinion: "even bears in the circus are taught to ride bicycles, and this - no"

    amoeba, in a word