The more actively the state fights against corruption, the greater its scale

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The more actively the state fights against corruption, the greater its scaleAt the same time, there is no understanding of what corruption is.

The topic of corruption and, accordingly, the fight against corruption is transformed into a kind of mantra. Everybody is fighting against corruption - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Investigation Committee, the prosecutor's office, journalists, the state, the opposition, the official press, the opposition press ... Information was also confirmed about the creation of a special anti-corruption department in the presidential administration, although immediately after the appearance of this information it was strongly refuted.

It is said that when Andropov created a special department in the KGB to combat ideological sabotage, he was warned against this step, saying that the very existence of such a structure meant the institutionalization of interest in preserving and expanding ideological sabotage and the people involved in them. After all, if there are specialists in a certain field of activity, they are interested in maintaining this field of activity, that is, in their relevance.

There will be no corruption, and there will be no need for corruption fighters — neither journalists, nor investigators. Hence, strictly speaking, it follows that fighters against corruption are interested in the existence of corruption, and corrupt officials are fighters against corruption as interested in preserving their field of activity. Therefore, paradoxically, but the fact is: the bigger the fight against corruption is declared, the more corruption happens in the country.

At the same time, the very concept of “corruption” remains, on the one hand, semi-mythical, and on the other, not completely understood. According to surveys, about three quarters of the respondents in the whole country say that they have never been in any capacity as participants in corrupt practices. On the other hand, when polling such a specific audience as the students of Echo of Moscow, already three-quarters say that they dealt with and took part in corruption. Strictly speaking, this is no contradiction at all, but an indicator of which social groups are students of Echo of Moscow.

However, more importantly: there is no clear idea of ​​what is called corruption in society. In the proper meaning of the term, corruption is corruption, corruption, that is, a state of affairs when, say, personal gain is carried out to the detriment of the tasks and functions that a particular person must occupy.

Russian law, as is often the case, interprets this much more complicated and unintelligible. But that's not the point. It is just that sometimes a similar phenomenon is often mixed with corruption - one that is usually called embezzlement. That is, a situation where a carrier of state authority begins to consider the "state treasury" (that is, state-owned resources) as subject to personal use and personal appropriation.

From a certain point of view, the word "embezzler" sounds in many ways worse than the "bribe taker", because the former is robbing the state and the people. The second attitude is much more tolerant, especially when it comes to a bribe, and not about extortion. It means that the first is the sale of one or another of his business decisions to the detriment of the interests of the case for the interests of the briber, and the second is the receipt of payment for the conscientious performance of his duties.

However, the difference is that if damage to the interests of a business for personal gain is always damage to the interests of the business, and why it bears the nature of corruption and corruption, then embezzlement, that is, appropriation of state or public resources, can play different roles in different situations, and in some cases to the detriment of the state, and in others to turn out to be profitable for it.

Naturally, in an institutionalized, stable and established state, the appropriation of state resources is assessed unambiguously negatively. At the earlier stages, it is, paradoxically, profitable, and indeed is almost the foundation of statehood. The most textbook and replicated example is the embezzlement of Alexander Menshikov and Grigory Potemkin: it is probably impossible in principle to calculate exactly how much they appropriated the treasury. Only what their state activities brought is still much more. No matter how much gold Potemkin appropriated - the development of Little Russia, Crimea and the creation of the Black Sea fleet still more expensive. No matter how many millions Menshikov squandered, only Noteburg and Poltava also paid for all this.

And the point is not in the sacramental "Great Allowed." The fact is that this is exactly how statehood is built: through creating in the carrier of state functions a sense of personal gain from state success. The dialogue from the cult film - “And you don’t confuse your pocket with the state!” - “And by the way, I’ve put it to watch the state’s interests!” (As my own) - in fact, much deeper than it seems first glance.

Because when for a state representative service to the public interest becomes his personal matter, this means that his personal interest is not separated from the state, and he gives himself up to the public interest in everything. And when he is separated, he clearly knows that until six in the evening he serves the state, and after six he lives in his own interests, and state affairs are indifferent to him. It is clear, of course, that it is best when he does all this solely for the sake of ideals, but, by the way, ideals are also a form of personal interest. Most likely, Menshikov could be bribed, but not in matters relating to the devotion to Peter and the state interests of Russia. As, however, and Potemkin.

Statehood generally begins with the fact that someone who has declared himself king of a certain land sends his colleague to a certain edge and entrusts him to ensure the loyalty of this land, protect its borders from neighbors, collect residents' taxes, form a squad and participate in military campaigns of the king, and also gives him the right to "feed" from this "county", that is, enrich himself at his expense.

It is clear that this is called “early feudalism” and, in theory, should have remained far in the past, and in the XXI century it would be necessary to have other forms of statehood. But one important detail needs to be taken into account: 22 a year ago, the country's statehood was almost completely destroyed and further destroyed all 90-s. Of course, if we had the Bolshevik Party and the shelves of the armed proletariat under our hands, then in the next 10-15 years it would be possible to create something more, but what if there aren't any?

In this case, you can only create something that is now, and in this state either some form of personal and state interests can be combined, or the statehood will have nothing to add, and it will be replaced by criminal structures or the colonial administration.

Here it is no longer a matter of whether it is good or bad from a moral point of view, but that in fact it is really like this: “embezzlement”, the identification of state resources with personal resources at this stage is the material of statehood creation, its cement. And here we are faced with the most important and most important. If this is indeed the case, then the “fight against corruption” at this stage of the country's development is the destruction, fragmentation of that primary material, “cement”, the material from which statehood is formed.

In Russia, statehood was practically destroyed at the end of the 1980s - the beginning of the 1990s. The process of its destruction continued in many respects and all 90-s. In 2000, it somehow began to recover. And just with the development of this process - approximately from the middle of the zero years - the topic of accusations of corruption in the government is becoming more active in society, and it is being activated by the representatives of the forces and interests of 1990, who have lost their dominance in political and economic life. Over the years 5-8, this topic has become constantly exaggerated and fashionable, and the government itself, accused of corruption, has joined in the relaying of this topic.

A chain arises: there is an accretion and restoration of statehood → one of the building materials of this process is the identification of state and personal interests by the authorities → an active “fight against corruption” unfolds, under the concept of which this identification of interests is imperceptible.

That is, it turns out that there is a struggle not against “corruption as corruption”, but against the “cement” of the consolidation of statehood. And first of all, precisely by the forces that act as obvious opponents and opponents of this statehood. And then this whole obsessive conversation about “counteracting corruption” is just an elegant way to fight against the restoration of statehood and its sovereignty.

There is a trap for society - a conscious representation of the elements of recovery elements of decomposition and a way to deploy a healthy and natural rejection of decomposition to counter recovery.

Similarly, at the end of 1980, the natural and healthy pursuit of the development and ascent of socialism to its higher level was used as a means and method of its destruction. And now, as then, the power itself falls into a trap and becomes a means and a ram of destruction for which, as it seems to her, she begins to fight for the improvement.

And this replacement of the real goal with the goal of a false one is carried out (quite deliberately and technologically) by those who pursue their real goal - to prevent a strong state from recovering, having done so that it itself, as it strengthens, begins to struggle more actively for its own destruction. .
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  1. +7
    6 December 2013 07: 10
    This, strictly speaking, implies that anti-corruption fighters are interested in the existence of corruption, and corrupt officials are interested in corruption fighters as interested in maintaining their sphere of activity.
    I didn’t read further because it turns out the cops are interested in bandits, and the bandits are interested in cops. Conclusion - There will be no cops the scope of banditry will disappear like a genus laughing
    1. +3
      6 December 2013 07: 16
      Heh, if there are no bribes, the motive to work for many people will disappear. Corruption is, first and foremost, a product of extremely complex and contradictory legislation of the Russian Federation. It is written to protect the stolen, and not to conduct business.
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 09: 08
        Quote: Civil
        motive to work for many people will disappear

        I agree, even Serdyukov won’t go to a new job bully

        should be given to read his lawyer:
        Because when for the representative of the state, serving the state interests becomes his personal affair - this means that his personal interest is not separated from the state, and he devotes himself to the state interest

        identification of state resources with personal resources at this stage is the material of creating statehood, its cement


        and this is probably a quote from a closed speech at the Security Council of the Russian Federation Putin:
        And here we are faced with the most important and most important. If this is indeed the case, then the “fight against corruption” at this stage of the country's development is the destruction, fragmentation of that primary material, “cement”, the material that makes up statehood.


        The question remains, as always: What to do and who is to blame? what
        1. AVV
          0
          6 December 2013 11: 10
          And why should he go to work, grandmothers drip all right, and even the little egg in the garden in the country is buried, there will be no dough !!! And so, that they found a job for him, Serdyukov has not those ambitions, he is used to Napoleon, he’s used to it Armies, divisions, regiments to command, but here is just some sort of mockery !!!
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      3. 0
        6 December 2013 12: 04
        It is interesting to learn from a person who is going to power, for what he does it. What interests move him there, not really make the surrounding electorate happy? Can go down in history? Ha ... I know ...
      4. Airman
        +1
        6 December 2013 14: 57
        Quote: Civil
        Heh, if there are no bribes, the motive to work for many people will disappear. Corruption is, first and foremost, a product of extremely complex and contradictory legislation of the Russian Federation. It is written to protect the stolen, and not to conduct business.

        Now, in order to pay the fines for the bribe that the corrupt official has caught, he needs to take more. And if they had shot, then there would be no pockets in the coffin, and many would have thought. A fine is not a punishment, but impunity breeds permissiveness.
      5. -1
        6 December 2013 15: 12
        Civil
        In your opinion, has legislation generated corruption? :)))
        Extremely unreasonable and absolutely unprofessional commentary, to the same extent as the article.
        I personally have one serious claim to the legislation - reducing the statute of limitations on real estate transactions from 10 to three years - this is really clearly done in order to preserve for the "privatizers" what they grabbed in the nineties ... but also for, as you put it, a calm conduct of business - they say she died, she died, and the rest have to live. A kind of amnesty. In my opinion, this was done in vain.
        The author also missed the fact that the authorities themselves began to yell about corruption, and the gorlopans only later joined this case, and putting in blame on the authorities just those facts that were revealed by that very authority.
        The cause of corruption is the deliberate breakdown of the moral values ​​of the people, without which the destruction of the Union was impossible. and the coming to power of precisely those democratically inclined layers whose followers are now yelling at Bolotnaya, trying to return to the feeding trough.
        Compare the slogans - in perestroika - yelling about corrupt party apparatchiks, on Tiananmen Square yelling - down with corrupt bureaucrats, now the swamp yelling - about crooks and thieves .... someone still doubts what kind of bacchanalia we will start if the yelling go to power? Not enough sad experience for us?
        1. +1
          7 December 2013 07: 49
          smile
          This is CAPITALISM, what kind of morality are you talking about ?! The elites need morality to gain superiority over the masses, a kind of rules that people must observe, and they are not written to them. They themselves confirmed my words about the legislation. If you, dear, look who we have, the bulk of the deputies of all levels, you will find almost 95% of businessmen there. This is the ruling class.
    2. +9
      6 December 2013 07: 17
      Cops are just children are small compared to the bureaucrats !!!
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 07: 21
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Cops are just children are small compared to the bureaucrats !!!

        Only both of them participate in gay parades, and Sobyanin forbids them laughing
        1. +12
          6 December 2013 07: 34
          Why are you gay, jammed, dear! To me personally, they are parallel. But the economic well in the country bothers me much more. And it’s not the gays who are to blame, although pid loops these people can also be called.
          And not Navalny and Bolotnaya because they have no access to either power or money.

          But the fat ones, who in false voices call us to patriotism from the high tribunes, and they themselves have made the people impoverished and powerless, lowering Russia to the level of Philippines.
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            1. +3
              6 December 2013 08: 20
              yes everything is normal with the Russian economy, scratch yourself in another place.

              yeah, okay. out of hundreds, one may be engaged in production, the rest are guarded, counted and sold. while for us everything rests on oil, it will not be so everything will collapse.
              1. +2
                6 December 2013 08: 35
                Quote: bairat
                yes everything is normal with the Russian economy, scratch yourself in another place.

                yeah, okay. out of hundreds, one may be engaged in production, the rest are guarded, counted and sold. while for us everything rests on oil, it will not be so everything will collapse.

                - Why do you all repeat like mantras "oil, oil!"? Not only Russia is holding on to oil, having eaten the world depends on oil, but for some reason only Russia is being hanged a mortal sin for this. Russia takes the second place in the export of high-tech products in the world, although it is a little specific products, but no one notices this. Russia could take a worthy place in the export of civilian high-tech products, but Westerners managed to block all this with the help of a certification system. For example, "Pratt & Whitney" and "Rolls-Royce" were strong in the low noise of their engines, well, they lobbied certification for the noise level of aircraft engines, and even so, so that the amount of certification was too much for Russian manufacturers. That's all, the Permians have arrived. There are plans for a good dvigun, and even a ready-made prototype is there, so there is not enough money to bring to mind, and even more so to pass certification with all the tests. There is no competitor, and the Russian "bairates" get an excuse from leading liberalists to shout that "Russia can only extract and sell oil and without high oil prices in Russia kirdyk!" Do not wait!
                Quote: bairat
                yeah, okay. out of a hundred, one may be engaged in production, the rest are guarded, counted and sold

                - outraged? What are you doing, honey? Somehow I’m making a fuss about standing right now behind a lathe and at the same time posting this nonsense at a computer.
                1. +1
                  6 December 2013 09: 11
                  What are you doing, honey?

                  I’m just doing production, damn it. It’s much simpler that we produce lead from China and not worry about problems.
                  there is no competitor, and the Russian "bairates" receive an excuse on command from the leading liberals to shout,

                  old man, if you don’t have the mood to talk normally, go to sleep, you seem to have an excess of gamma entering the brain.
                  1. +1
                    6 December 2013 09: 46
                    Quote: bairat
                    if you don’t have the mood to talk normally, go make up, you seem to have excess gamma entering the brain

                    - This process is happening right with you today, for the phrase:
                    Quote: bairat
                    count and sell. while for us everything rests on oil, it will not be so everything will collapse.

                    from there they delivered it to your brain along with the "gamn". You even read the structure of the Russian economy at your leisure, there are materials on the Internet, go to the site "Made with us" - after all, the facts are stated there, there has never been anything that would have been posted in "made with us", but the plant is actually there is no product either. Why wear "bulk-German-casparism" here? Go to another place, for example, to Granitochka ru.
                    1. +2
                      6 December 2013 10: 04
                      Quote: aksakal
                      from there they delivered it to your brain along with the "gamn". You even read the structure of the Russian economy at your leisure, there are materials on the Internet, go to the site "Made with us" - after all, it is the facts that are stated,

                      Does this propaganda gamna mean your head is full? I was on this site, laughed at an activator washing machine and a tube TV from the "flagships" of the economy. you better go to the store, will you find a lot of domestic goods there? did you say the West blocked?
                      1. 0
                        6 December 2013 11: 06
                        Quote: bairat
                        . you better go to the store, how many domestic goods will you find there? say the same west blocked?

                        Yes there is ours and our TVs too. Although yes there are no tubes, some LCD laughing
                      2. -1
                        6 December 2013 12: 27
                        yes, there are ours too, with the localization of the plastic case and one button in the remote control, the rest is all imported.
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          2. +1
            6 December 2013 11: 04
            Quote: Kibalchish
            To me personally, they are parallel.

            And I can’t stand them.
            Quote: Kibalchish
            But the economic well in the country bothers me much more.

            So what is the economic crisis in our country?
            Quote: Kibalchish
            n, but they themselves made the people impoverished and powerless, lowering Russia to the level of Phillipin.

            You do not have rights?
            1. Yarosvet
              0
              6 December 2013 12: 04
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              So what is the economic crisis in our country?
          3. +1
            6 December 2013 14: 31
            -Kibalchish: but the fat ones, who in fake voices call us to patriotism from high tribunes ...
            He recalled a joke when a candidate for deputy broadcasted that there was a mess in the country and corruption. To the question: Do you want to fight this, the answer was: I want to participate in this!
            Everyone has tried to eradicate “bribery and extortion” at all times.
            FIRST it was done by Ivan the Terrible. The 1550 criminal court also introduced a punishment for bribery - the death penalty FIRST Russian execution for a bribe, occurred in 1556. They executed the clerk who "took the goose, stuffed with coins, taking too much promise." According to the royal decree, his legs were knocked off at first, then his hands on his elbow. “Does goose meat taste good?” The king asked the howling victim, and only then the extortionate was chopped off.
            In 1558, the French diplomat Arnold Shemo wrote to Paris: “Muscovy cannot be recognized - the fear of death has changed this country so that our merchants now do not know how to conduct business. Even the local princesses don’t take gifts, because every day the bribe-takers are casually chopped into pieces right on the town square. ”
            By the way, according to the confession of the autocrat himself, one of the main reasons for the introduction of the oprichnina in Russia was an attempt to cope with the “total corruption of the state apparatus”.
            SECOND after Ivan the Terrible and the LAST state leader, who managed to curb (localize to the minimum acceptable for society sizes) corruption, was Joseph Stalin. Corruption was defeated by a unique system of measures that concerned ALL, regardless of communication and social status. Even relatives of the corrupt official who knew, but did nothing to identify the criminal, were held accountable as accomplices. Moreover, everyone who at least heard from the ear, but said nothing that someone was taking bribes or was engaged in another illegal case, was put on trial. And, of course, the most effective means of control are denunciations. The denunciations were massive, because for concealment of the crime they saw also relied on criminal liability. A situation was created where “even the walls have ears” and the likelihood of concealing a crime decreased to almost zero.
            In addition, there was a personal example - the head of state lived modestly, at his small dacha, did not use expensive items, dressed simply, in a military way, and, when there was a need, slept on an ordinary wooden bench. After him there were no bank accounts or villas.
            THERE IS NO THIRD!
            TODAY accusations of corruption are ONLY an effective weapon in the internal political struggle and in intrigues between numerous factions / clans. And in anti-corruption campaigns, a double standard can be traced: some (the “untouchables caste”) are forgiven for which they mercilessly punish others.
        2. 0
          6 December 2013 09: 36
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Only both of them participate in gay parades, and Sobyanin forbids them

          Where is the logic? request
          1. +1
            6 December 2013 11: 08
            Quote: nycsson
            Where is the logic?

            They show beautifully in public that they are with the people, but at the same time they pass anti-people laws for the minority. Where is Niksson's logic?
        3. -1
          6 December 2013 11: 44
          "Only these two participate in gay parades, and Sobyanin forbids them" ---- If he participates in gay parades, the security will have to be increased. It's just that our authorities are afraid of their own people. Since they are far from the Menshikovs and not the Potemkins - they steal, but they overwhelm the task entrusted, either by force not by competence, or by direct betrayal of state interests. So they are being guarded - the people indiscriminately do not trust everyone, both right and guilty. It used to be, at least one could get to the director of the enterprise almost easily, a little impudence, one secretary on guard - now the guard is still at the entrance to the administration, so we are building an anti-people state. And there is no need to invent measures of struggle, stole a large sum - they hanged them, took a bribe - they shot them, but if not humanely - to work to restore the industry they had plundered, with their families.
      2. 0
        6 December 2013 09: 44
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Cops are just children are small compared to the bureaucrats !!!

        We had one deputy, went to the Duma on a trolley bus, and he died.
      3. +4
        6 December 2013 09: 44
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Cops are just children are small compared to the bureaucrats !!!

        We had one deputy, went to the Duma on a trolley bus, and he died.
    3. +5
      6 December 2013 07: 54
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I didn’t read further because it turns out the cops are interested in bandits, and the bandits are interested in cops. Conclusion - There will be no cops the scope of banditry will disappear like a genus

      - in vain, quite an interesting point of view, but very controversial. To deny that the cops are interested to some extent, so that there is crime after all - it's hard to deny it, make yourself public -)))). And the ever-memorable Yushchenko, better known under the nickname "Yushch", somehow even in one day completely eliminated the traffic police of Ukraine. So what? What happened? Nothing, accidents have even decreased! The paradox, however.
      In this SABJ, the author of SABJ is trying to bring a fine ideological base under the embezzlement. A man, he is like that, he needs a beautiful ideological basis for everything, even the most unsightly. An example of fascists before our eyes. Even if a womanizer - and then he will find a base on the theme "I bring happiness, albeit a short-term, but still happiness to single women!" I don't approve.
      Mankind, it is very interesting. There are all kinds of people in him, and I have met them in my life. There are even incorrigible altruists. And there are those who work effectively for the good of the state, even to the detriment of their own interests - this is NORMAL! There are much fewer of them than those who find it easier to consider the state as their property for effective work, but THERE ARE! You just need to identify such, select to cook in such a way that you could call him a Professional with a capital letter and then give confidence to the public office. There are also those who are so ambitious, well, just so much that they are no longer nice to him, he dreams of staying in HISTORY mother. Why don't you give them a chance too? And then he will remain in history anyway. There was one such, Herostratus was called.
      By the way, if that - your Putin looks like this. So far, even Navalny cannot blame him for anything, but he really needs to, believe me. And he would dig if if Putin had messed up with the embezzlers, believe me. Nazarbayev, alas, is not so disinterested, unfortunately.
      So the author of SABZh with attempts to whitewash the embezzlers - "a forest, a field, a sausage along Malaya Spasskaya, kazy along Kurmangazy" and generally away. There are other ways out and other solutions.
      1. Fin
        +1
        6 December 2013 10: 03
        Quote: aksakal
        Nothing, accidents even decreased! The paradox, however.

        Well, here you are wrong. Found this time on vacation in Ukraine. On the roads, there was a complete mess of compliance with traffic rules. It was scary to ride. Well, that is not very long.
  2. +6
    6 December 2013 07: 12
    yeah we fight corruption
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 07: 22
      Quote: avant-garde
      yeah we fight corruption

      If Navalny himself had a snout in the gun, the picture would be in color, and so No.
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 07: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If Navalny

        Yes, instead of bulk, you can insert any bureaucrat, I just could not find such a picture with another mug
      2. +2
        6 December 2013 10: 08
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        at Navalny


        he is doing well, like all the "sent Cossacks"
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    2. stroporez
      -1
      6 December 2013 08: 18
      Quote: avant-garde
      yeah we fight corruption
      --- It would be nice to find someone who will fight the wrestlers ....... laughing
  3. vladsolo56
    +3
    6 December 2013 07: 19
    I did not put anything, but I do not agree with the author. State embezzlement is when one official steals from the state, and also steals a little. When an official builds a structure in which it is possible not only to steal, but to rob the state with fabulous sums with impunity, this is corruption. Corruption is not the bribe of a traffic cop on the road, it is when his superiors are aware of and gets a considerable share of it, moreover, he does not just receive, but sets quotas. Only if they catch the traffic police, then he will be a corrupt official, and his boss on the sidelines. So it’s not worth asserting that the people do not understand what corruption is. And that fighting it is useless. It’s just that today the entire system of power in the country is built specifically on corruption, so who will fight it.
  4. makarov
    +2
    6 December 2013 07: 28
    Funny when interpreting a scholar
    about our craving for friendship and trust;
    somebody is always sitting in Russia;
    one for spirit, the other for matter.
    И.Г.
    P.S. Corruption in all its manifestations did not bypass Russia. And yet there are incorruptible people in this country.
  5. predator.3
    +1
    6 December 2013 07: 44
    A draft presidential amnesty, timed to coincide with the 20th anniversary of the Constitution, may be submitted to the State Duma in the coming days. Some details of the document are written on Friday, December 6, by the Kommersant newspaper.

    According to the publication, the amnesty will affect only those who have committed crimes of small and medium gravity. First of all, minors, women with minor children, pregnant women, women over 55 years old and men over 60 years old, disabled people of I and II groups will fall under the amnesty. Those who have suspended sentences and are also under trial or investigation will be released from punishment, Interfax reports.

    On which specific articles of the Criminal Code will the amnesty apply, and on which not? And also, who of the prisoners or those under investigation in high-profile cases can count on the release or termination of the prosecution?

    The amnesty will not affect all of his defendants in the "swamp case". According to the draft, it does not apply to those who pass under Part 1 of Article 212 ("Organization of Mass Riots"): Sergei Udaltsov, Leonid Razvozzhaev and the already convicted Konstantin Lebedev. Rather, one should not wait for amnesty for those who are charged with Article 318 ("Use of violence against a government official").

    Those convicted under Part 2 of Article 213 (“Aggravated Hooliganism”) will also remain behind bars: in particular, girls from the punk group Pussy Riot (Nadezhda Tolokonnikova and Maria Alekhina). Greenpeace activists are also under the same article for the action on the Prirazlomnaya platform.

    Aleksey Navalny, who was sentenced in the Kirovles case to five years imprisonment on probation under article 160. “Assignment and embezzlement,” will not fall under the amnesty. Recall, according to the investigation, the damage to the budget from the actions of Navalny amounted to more than 16 million rubles.

    But those convicted and undergoing part 1 of Article 293 ("Negligence") will be amnestied. In particular, Anatoly Serdyukov, who became a suspect in the case of abuse of funds by the Ministry of Defense during the construction of the Zhitnoye recreation center. The investigation estimates the damage from these actions at 56 million rubles. The opportunity to retrain the amnesty case remains with Evgenia Vasilyeva, the defendant in the Oboronservis case. Investigators estimate the total amount of damage caused to the state in the framework of this case at four billion rubles.

    Finally, Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Platon Lebedev have no chance of being released ahead of schedule. Former owners of Yukos will not be able to rely on this yet because it is not designed for previously convicted to imprisonment.

    In total, it is expected that the amnesty will affect more than 30 thousand people (taking into account those against whom the criminal prosecution will be terminated before the sentencing).

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    Read on the website of Vesti.Ru http://news.rambler.ru/22544346/

    THERE IS GRANDMA AND YURYEV DAY!
  6. 0
    6 December 2013 07: 57
    The most textbook and replicated example is the embezzlement of Alexander Menshikov and Grigory Potemkin: it is probably impossible in principle to calculate exactly how much they appropriated the treasury.

    The author, by chance, doesn’t know which foreign banks and offshore companies Menshikov and Potemkin deduced what was assigned? An example for the ears drawn. And in general, the more he stole, the more good the country brought, I correctly understood the meaning of the article? wassat At least one subject fact has resulted from our time ...
  7. +2
    6 December 2013 08: 05
    The great battle of bees with honey.
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 08: 21
      The trouble is not even that they steal, but where this money then goes. (Ideally, he stole, as Potemkin, by the way, built a plant, opened production. The so-called "state" all wastes this money for the Olympics and for the maintenance of fighters against corruption).

      Twelve immigrants from the USSR in the ranking of the economic magazine Bilan - 300 richest citizens of Switzerland


      1st place. Victor Vekselberg (7th place in the list)
      2. Gennady Timchenko, in 1988, became deputy director of the state foreign trade association “Kirishineftekhimeksport”, which was created in 1987 on the basis of the Kirishi oil refinery (one of the three largest refineries in the RSFSR).
      3. Vasily Anisimov - President of the Russian Judo Federation.
      7. Vyacheslav Kantor - in 1996-2000, served as economic adviser to the Chairman of the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
      8. Dinara Kulibayeva is the daughter of the president of Kazakhstan.
      9. Lawyer Dmitry Yakubovsky
      12. Lola Karimova-Tillyaeva - daughter of the President of Uzbekistan.

      Taken from here: http://www.rospres.com/finance/13550/?utm_campaign=etabak.kz

      Need more comments?
  8. 0
    6 December 2013 08: 17
    The funny thing is that in order to become a fighter against corruption we need to give a strong bribe lol
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 08: 50
      Quote: bairat
      The funny thing is that in order to become a fighter against corruption we need to give a strong bribe lol

      - the fight against corruption is a highly profitable sector of the economy, didn’t you know this? An even more profitable sector of the economy is the fight against corruption of those who fight corruption, those who fight corruption. But before that, Russia had not yet matured.
  9. -1
    6 December 2013 09: 16
    In my opinion, there are two (not the only) factors that shaped the current situation.

    The first is a market economy based on socialist legislation. There is no legal definition of corruption. "No body, no action." Even elements of a planned economy would reduce corruption.

    The second - there is no barrier to the movement of capital. There is no mechanism for protecting investments in industry within the country (the tax will gobble up on the way up) and there is no taxation or insurance of capital that is managed through offshore companies and their analogues (take out: for consumption - tax, for development - insure, i.e. come back, then get insurance with interest).

    But neither one nor the other will be with our deputies, tk. they are a product of point 1 and buy "porshiki for hard-earned and sweaty"
  10. +2
    6 December 2013 09: 47
    Flood in the title of the article - THE STATE DOES NOT FIGHT CORRUPTION - the ruling "elite" cherishes and improves it. tongue
  11. Toporkoff
    +1
    6 December 2013 10: 00
    Corruption is invincible - because human greed is invincible. Christianity has been struggling with this for many years ... Money and power turn out to be sweeter to a person.
  12. Yarosvet
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    6 December 2013 10: 13
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  13. 0
    6 December 2013 10: 36
    mass shootings. It’s too late to be shy, since not taking it is considered not just a norm, but as a fact ... Equality of all before the Law, history has shown that soft methods do not work for us ... everything is getting worse from impunity ...
  14. 0
    6 December 2013 11: 49
    Yes, Sergei Chenyakhovsky is a witty person, it was nice to read his subtle humor. Therefore, the level of corruption is an indicator of the level of the country's development success? The higher the corruption, the better for the country? In this case, maybe it makes sense to introduce special awards for outstanding corrupt officials - the honorary title "Honored Corruptor" and the gold medal "Hero of Corruption of Russia", and install his bronze bust in the homeland of the "hero"?
  15. +1
    6 December 2013 12: 11
    The state cannot fight corruption itself. It can only help because It’s hard to fight against yourself and your representatives. The citizens themselves must fight. First of all, not giving bribes. Start with yourself.
    And the state is obliged to fight embezzlement.
  16. +1
    6 December 2013 13: 49
    There is no doubt that there is a certain rational component in the author’s reasoning. But it seems to me that nature does not like one-sided assessments and extremes, like society. Many are subject to temptation. From the "brightest" ones, like Menshikov, for example, and irreconcilable fighters like the prosecutor of the Moscow Region Ignatenko. The main thing would be what and where to get it. The rest is a matter of morality. You will laugh, as they say in Odessa, but you can earn very good money in the fight against corruption. And of the methods of struggle, it is better to catch and land with confiscation of property no one has come up with anything. Stalin used it, and nothing, it turned out well.
    1. 0
      6 December 2013 15: 36
      Stinger
      worth noting. that the punishment for corruption in Stalin's times was almost milder than it is now - no executions and twenty-year sentences were envisaged for it.
      Another thing is that the inevitability of punishment was working - the law enforcement agencies worked more efficiently, and the population helped them. Yes, and the scale of theft and the possibility of stealing in Soviet times could not be a candle to that. what is possible in modern society - look at the "democratic countries" - there corruption is not a bit lower than ours ... and in the USA, in general, the apotheosis of corruption, we were worse only in the nineties, when the whole country was ripped open, now beggars can be thieves just dream of an American scale ... but, strangely enough, Americans are in no hurry to mix themselves with dirt for this ... :)))

      In general, the moral of the society was different; it was a shame to steal. From the time of perestroika, a stereotype has been rooted in us (and it appeared even earlier) - to chop up the state was considered to be valor. Really no one remembers the proverb; to uncover the state is not a sin — it itself will deceive anyone you want. By the way, many screaming about bad power themselves profess a similar ideology ...
  17. 0
    6 December 2013 14: 47
    U.S. Chernyakhovsky, your opus for some reason reminded me of a priest, a bum from torment: the profession is a parasite, education is pseudoscientific, beliefs are unprincipled.
  18. 0
    6 December 2013 14: 57
    <<< The more actively the state fights corruption, the greater its scale >>>
    Corruption and embezzlement will continue to develop until Russia ratifies the 20th article of the UN Convention against Corruption, which
    makes it possible to confiscate illegally acquired property from the embezzler and the corrupt official, which is the most terrible punishment for them (is it worth doing this if everything acquired by "hard and dangerous" labor can be confiscated)! It is not for nothing that the bureaucratic lobby has been preventing this article from being ratified for so many years!
    1. cenych
      0
      6 December 2013 21: 55
      Haha, go tell tales elsewhere lol
      http://www.rg.ru/2006/03/21/konvencia-korrupcia-dok.html
      Find an exception to Article 20 of the Convention. So that is the complete wiring of the liberals.
      It cannot be applied because of Article 49 of the Constitution, which states that “the accused is not obliged to prove his innocence” - thus, prosecuting citizens for “illegal enrichment” would be contrary to our Constitution.

      Subject to its Constitution and the fundamental principles of its legal system, each State Party shall consider adopting such legislative and other measures as may be necessary in order to criminalize, when it is intentionally committed, illegal enrichment, i.e. a significant increase in the assets of a public official in excess of his legal income, which he cannot reasonably substantiate.
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