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The US is increasingly afraid of China

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The US is increasingly afraid of China

China is ready to throw America off the pedestal of world leadership. And he begins to take real steps towards this. In the US, the scale of the threat was assessed and panicked.


China, as the world's largest importer of "black gold", is moving from dollar to yuan when evaluating contracts for crude oil and no longer intends to accumulate foreign exchange reserves. If we take into account that today China’s 2,5 has a trillion dollars plus US debts of another trillion on 1,3, then these decisions by Beijing can be crushing blows on the coffin of the American economy. Are the United States ready to take on the challenge?

One of the latest meetings of the Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia and Emerging Threats (Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia, and Emerging Threats) of the international committee of the US House of Representatives was entirely devoted to one topic - "Marine and other geographical threats of China." The event, frankly, did not pretend to the attention of world media. If it were not for the conclusions that were made here.

The event was opened by Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher - a person is not ordinary in the American political establishment. Suffice it to say that at one time he, being a speechwriter of Ronald Reagan, put into the mouth of 40 US President the famous definition of the Soviet Union - “The Empire of Evil”. Now China gets from the congressman. At various times, Rohrabacher accused the People's Republic of China of illegal trade in human organs, called for a boycott of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing and did not hide what he considers the Middle Kingdom as the main potential enemy of America, "because there is no democratization there."

He began the meeting of the subcommittee with a statement in the same vein: “We are in a state of cold war with China!”, Which set the tone for the whole event. It has, in fact, turned into "exposing the cunning Beijing", which sends spies to the USA under the guise of Chinese students, arranges endless hacker attacks and tries to take away from the American-friendly countries of the island in the South China Sea.

Committee member Alan Lowenthal summed up the meeting: "We need to be more concerned about China, otherwise ... the new Pearl Harbor could take the United States by surprise."

Everything said in the subcommittee was surprisingly united by the American mass media. The Washington Times newspaper alone produced a series of publications designed to convince readers of the seriousness of the "yellow" threat to US residents. Referring to the Chinese media, American journalists, in particular, argue that the submarine fleet of the PRC, numbering about 70 submarines, is capable of delivering a devastating nuclear strike on the west coast of America, and China’s intercontinental ballistic missiles reach the east. "If we launch our ICFs DF 31A across the North Pole," the Washington Times quoted Chinese colleagues, "we can easily destroy a whole list of megalopolises ... whose population is about one-eighth of the total population of America."

Scaring their citizens, the newspaper decided to beat the nerves and Taiwanese, writing a script for the seizure of the island by the Communists. However, the capital's journalists did not discover America. On the first serious confrontation between Beijing and Washington around Taiwan, six years ago, a documentary was shot with the eloquent title China vs. US: A War of Empires (China vs USA: Empires at war). Then the major military maneuvers of the Chinese army in the Taiwan Strait almost led to a collision with the American aircraft carrier group, which took the training for preparing for an invasion of the island. Here are some quotes and examples from the film directed by Anthony Dufour.

"In 1996-2006, the PRC's military budget doubled every year and today it is the second in the world after the United States. In fact, the figures may be two to three times higher than the official ones," said Chen Tan-Sun anxiously. President of the Taiwan National Security Council (Taiwan National Security Council, Taipei). The result of an intensive build-up of its military power, Beijing demonstrated in the same year 2006. October 26 in the Okinawa area, the Chinese diesel submarine Type 039, not detected by anyone, surfaced in the very center of the strike group headed by the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk. A month earlier, the PLA conducted a successful test of an anti-satellite rocket, after which Beijing declared that it also possesses the technology of laser "blinding" enemy orbiters. In a subtle way, China hinted at the United States that it could neutralize their main striking force in the Asia-Pacific region: satellites and aircraft carriers.

Washington, at that time occupied by the situation in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East, either did not understand or ignored the hint. And in vain. Beijing took this as a sign of America’s weakness. “If the United States has big problems, they will have no energy left to annoy China,” said Lau Nai-keung, a well-known Chinese analyst. America started only in 2011, when in the United States the content of the 363-page report prepared by a group of students of Georgetown University (Georgetown University) under the guidance of Pentagon associate Phillip Karber became known. Based on an analysis of open Chinese sources, intelligence data and satellite images, Professor Karber and his team came to disappointing conclusions for the United States.

First, the report says, the People’s Republic of China does not have 300 nuclear warheads, as the Pentagon believed, but three thousand. The second is weapon reliably hidden in the system of Chinese underground tunnels and bunkers, which stretches almost 5000 kilometers. And, thirdly, if Beijing decides to strike at America, then in the end the United States will lose 200 million killed, and the remaining 100 million will be rejected in the Stone Age.

Many experts and scientists have ridiculed Karber’s report and accused him of distorting facts. But the White House decided otherwise. Already in November of that year, speaking in Australia, Barack Obama announced that the United States would increase its military presence in the Asia-Pacific region. In January, the Pentagon 2012 presented a document titled “Maintaining US Global Leadership. Defense Priorities in the 21 Century. ” It recognizes that the growth of China’s military power "must be met with the greater clarity of our strategic intentions." A year later, Barack Obama signed the National Defense Law (National Defense Authorization Act, NDAA), where he instructed the US Strategic Command (STRATCOM) to find out whether the Chinese underground nuclear system posed a danger to the United States? And if so, how to neutralize it?

Today it becomes clear why the White House is not in a hurry following the example of Rohrabacher to declare a cold war to China. Washington has no more tools to pressure Beijing. The American military power of the Asian Dragon is no longer scary. And having become dependent on trade and economic relations with the PRC, America lost its last argument in a dispute with the Middle Kingdom. As well-known American publicist Michael Snyder (Michael T. Snyder) remarked, "When it comes to the economy, China plays chess and the United States plays checkers."

... In the spring of 2009, in Beijing, a collection of essays was published under the general title "China is angry." Among young Chinese, the book has become as popular as Mao Zedong's quotebook in his time. The authors of the bestseller compared the modern world with a large market where America sets its own rules and robs everyone it wishes with impunity. And the simple Chinese took the conclusion with great enthusiasm: "We must put the gangster in place. And China must do it!"
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  1. AVV
    AVV 6 December 2013 15: 25
    26
    The end of American hegemony is obvious! And no matter how puffed up senators and state. Dep the countdown counter has been launched! After the collapse of the dollar, which will inevitably collapse, the entire economic model of the United States, and China and Russia should contribute to this and transfer all their trade in goods and energy to their national currency !!! The first steps in this direction have been taken and the first cries from the ocean are already heard! Well, if they cry, then we are moving in the right direction !!!
    1. Krasnoarmeec
      Krasnoarmeec 6 December 2013 16: 01
      +4
      They cut the forest, chips fly !!!
      And they will fly so that everyone will get ..... And nevertheless it’s nice, oh nice fellow
      In general, with the beginning of the end comrades !!!!!! drinks
      1. APES
        APES 6 December 2013 16: 19
        10
        Quote: Krasnoarmeec
        In general, with the beginning of the end, comrades !!!


        just in case - note:
        And the simple Chinese took the conclusion with great enthusiasm: "We must put the bandit in his place. And China must do it!"


        who will be the next "bandit"?
        1. Encoder
          Encoder 6 December 2013 16: 46
          +4
          In, in, they do not even need us as slaves.
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 6 December 2013 17: 27
            +2
            However, sadly - true ((
        2. dmitrich
          dmitrich 6 December 2013 16: 53
          +1
          Japan probably.
        3. Andrey57
          Andrey57 6 December 2013 16: 55
          +4
          As long as the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has a semi-private shop that has income of 50% of the printing of the ruble and does not pay taxes, does not obey anyone and completely determines the financial policy in the country, then we do not care what the price of oil and gas is determined in dollars or yuan, in both cases, there will be nothing good for our economy.
        4. Per se.
          Per se. 6 December 2013 20: 35
          +4
          Quote: APES
          who will be the next "bandit"?
          This is the list to whom China has territorial claims. Well, in general, if China takes the place of the United States in the world, one does not have to be naive that the world will be fairer.
        5. Arti
          Arti 6 December 2013 21: 20
          0
          paranoia again about the inevitability of a war with China?
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    2. their
      their 6 December 2013 16: 31
      0
      Look at Europe, it is completely occupied, they want to swallow Ukraine. Still there are 180 such countries not sovereign in the world, everything is tied to the dollar. Many of them have American bases and the dollar in running and even rises depreciating nat. currency.

      Look at the reality, the USA is only getting stronger and the dollar is getting more expensive, at least in Kazakhstan it has risen in price by 2 tenge over 10 years.
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      3. Encoder
        Encoder 6 December 2013 16: 53
        +6
        It also says how much the Chinese bought up American papers. And what do you think this is in order to throw them away. Not. That's when they try to spend it all, then everything starts. And missile bullets at each other, well, they are not suicides.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 7 December 2013 02: 55
          +1
          Quote: Coder
          That's when they try to spend it all, then everything starts.

          This is a very correct thought, which today finds its practical embodiment. China quickly began to get rid of amerovsky candy wrappers, buying up specific production, real estate around the world, investing in new construction. So Chinese business comes to Ukraine, 3 billion greenbacks will be invested in the port infrastructure of Crimea. Yes, this is a private investment, but the trend has emerged. And if we take into account the economic expansion of mandarins in Africa, it becomes clear that the "kitais" are being thrown overboard in order to get out from under the rubble of the world dollar system with the least possible losses. IMHO.
      4. bif
        bif 7 December 2013 00: 42
        +1
        Quote: sus
        Look at Europe, it is completely occupied, they want to swallow Ukraine. Still such countries are not sovereign in the world of 180, everything is tied to the dollar.

        I agree completely
        Quote: sus
        Many of them have American bases.

        I partially agree - while there are bases, but there has already been a tendency to close them due to budget cuts.
        Quote: sus
        The USA is only getting stronger and the dollar is getting more expensive, at least in Kazakhstan for 2, it has risen in price by 10 tenge.

        I do not agree completely, the dollar is becoming cheaper and losing confidence, countries are moving in mutual settlements to national currency or gold. As for Kazakhstan, it is not the dollar that has risen in price, but the tenge has fallen in price ... inflation and the weakness of the economy.
    3. iulai
      iulai 6 December 2013 23: 11
      +3
      If America is not a superpower, then China will crush us like a fly! Unas in Primorye is 2 million people, and opposite Primorye there is a Chinese province, 220 million people live there. They will go on foot across the border, with us, with our mess of bullets, there will not be enough cartridges for them!
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 7 December 2013 01: 40
        +3
        Yes, even if China jumps out of its pants, China really depends on the United States much more. I already wrote, I can repeat: with the closure of the American market (and the European one too, does anyone really think that the EU will not support the United States?) And Uncle Sam's announcement "to all whom I owe, I forgive" the Chinese economy will burst, bursting with mountains of shoddy consumer goods, which no one wants to import, and very few people can buy inside China (yes, there are thousands of billionaires and millions of millionaires, but even now maybe a billion beggars). The factories will stop, and most of the workers there live from paycheck to paycheck, so soon they will have nothing to eat, especially since the prices of food in China will skyrocket.
        There is such a detail: China is one of the largest importers of agricultural products, and America is one of the largest exporters of this, and in many ways to China. All kinds of grain, soy, vegetable oil, poultry and pork are far from a complete list of what China purchases from America. While America is guaranteed to provide itself with food, hunger riots await China without import. And if starvation riots begin, the communist government will not be up to external scams, since even it will not have enough internal forces.
        Quote: iulai
        They will go on foot across the border, with us, with our mess of bullets, there will not be enough cartridges for them!

        Even if you start right now to start the delivery of cartridges, it will not save. Machine guns overheat. lol
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 7 December 2013 03: 46
          +3
          Quote: Nagan
          the Chinese economy will burst, bursting with mountains of crappy consumer goods that no one wants to import, and very few people can buy inside China

          1/3 of the American market consists of this very consumer goods. And nothing, buy. So not very crappy. They are shoddy in the countries of the 3rd world, and our "challengers" fill the counters of markets and shops, maybe there is no domestic one, and the purchasing power of the population leaves much to be desired.
          By the way, the PRC leadership is working to increase the purchasing power of its population, realizing that this is a way out of curtailing the foreign market.
          Quote: Nagan
          America is one of the largest exporters of this (agricultural products), and in many ways to China

          But it exports rare-earth metals, without which the industry of the 21 century is unthinkable. China produces them and has 95% reserves of these same metals. So there is mutual benefit. And it is not known what will happen to the Amerov electrotechnical, electronic, engine-building and other industries of the US industry if China cuts off supplies of rare earth.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 7 December 2013 07: 26
            +2
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            But it exports rare-earth metals, without which the industry of the 21 century is unthinkable. China produces them and has 95% reserves of these same metals. So there is mutual benefit. And it is not known what will happen to the Amerov electrotechnical, electronic, engine-building and other industries of the US industry if China cuts off supplies of rare earth.

            There are rare earths in many places, including America. But mining and, most importantly, processing them is an extremely dirty and harmful business from an environmental point of view. In America, if you clean the discharges to the level permitted by law, the resulting product will cost several times more than the Chinese. Why ask? Yes, because the Chinese spit on the environment, and only on the health and safety of hard workers - moreover, one will bend - hundreds will fight for the right to go in its place. So if China cuts off supplies, they will develop local resources, it will just cost much more.
        2. BBM
          BBM 7 December 2013 05: 41
          0
          impudent lies on a grain of wheat China is a completely self-sufficient country. Plus, the main food import is not from the United States, and in the case of transferring settlements from dollars to yuan, China will only win. By the way, your government recently canceled free food stamps for the poor. So get ready for the hunger riots yourself.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 7 December 2013 07: 17
            0
            Quote: BBM
            By the way, your government recently canceled free food stamps for the poor. So get ready for the hunger riots yourself.

            Not canceled, but only reduced. A family of 2 people (my parents are an example, so I'm in the know) began to receive about $ 30 less per month. Those. if there was, like them, about $ 250 food stamps per month, it became $ 220. Of course there is little joy, but not fatal. And you minus for the spread of false rumors.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 7 December 2013 03: 15
        +1
        Quote: iulai
        with our mess of cartridges for them is not enough!

        Cartridges are an attribute of the 20th century. It's the 21st century. The new century is a new weapon: psychotronic, genetic, wave. But you never know "the spirit of enlightenment prepares the WONDERFUL discoveries." So, "no s.y, brother, we'll break through!"
        Well, but seriously, the threat is real, but not today. They know about it and prepare an asymmetric answer (and this is no laughing matter).
    4. 0255
      0255 7 December 2013 12: 52
      -1
      Quote: AVV
      The end of American hegemony is obvious! And no matter how puffed up senators and state. Dep the countdown counter has been launched! After the collapse of the dollar, which will inevitably collapse, the entire economic model of the United States, and China and Russia should contribute to this and transfer all their trade in goods and energy to their national currency !!! The first steps in this direction have been taken and the first cries from the ocean are already heard! Well, if they cry, then we are moving in the right direction !!!

      since the crisis of 2008, they promise the collapse of the United States and the collapse of the dollar, and when will this happiness happen? And I want American hegemony to really end
  2. predator.3
    predator.3 6 December 2013 15: 53
    +5
    "We must put the bandit in his place. And China must do it!"


    Well, well, we’ll see ... from the side, or rather from the stalls, not all the time Russia is steaming! (In all these world wars)
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 6 December 2013 16: 07
      +8
      The bad news is that China may have an appetite and Russia will go for a snack. It's time for us to stand aside, brushing off the results of the 90s. So even if America weakened, so that we ourselves could get away from dependence, but was strong enough to distract the attention of China.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 6 December 2013 17: 48
        +1
        Quote: Yuri Ya.
        So even if America weakened, so that we ourselves could get away from dependence, but was strong enough to distract the attention of China.


        speak correctly. I think it will be so. moreover, this practice has been widespread for a long time.
        We will help until both sides weaken ...
      2. mountain
        mountain 6 December 2013 21: 48
        0
        China needs us, but where will it take ideas? Without Russia, I’ll write piz ... dec. Well, not all of us need favorites. There is time to think and take action. If it’s not too late.
  3. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 6 December 2013 15: 53
    +1
    It is important for American ideology to have an external threat, even where there is none. Works very well and distracts attention from pressing problems. And regarding currency assets, the Chinese are not suicides, an attempt to "drain" dollars will result in the collapse of the economies of both countries, a victory over a competitor at the cost of its own life is not an option for China.
    1. bif
      bif 7 December 2013 00: 54
      0
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      And regarding currency assets, the Chinese are not suicides, an attempt to "drain" dollars will result in the collapse of the economies of both countries

      I agree with you on everything except this.
      You can merge in different ways, the most safe is the gradual merging of dollars and debt obligations - this is what China has been doing since 2012 of the year.
      So that the depreciation of the dollar and state securities does not drag out the yuan, China has been actively securing its currency for several years, buying thousands of tons of gold from around the world a year, and switching to settlements with other countries on national currencies, thereby preparing for the collapse of the dollar .
  4. Farik
    Farik 6 December 2013 15: 58
    10
    Sooner or later, the Chinese will "come out of the twilight" and after that you will not envy anyone.
  5. ed65b
    ed65b 6 December 2013 16: 11
    +5
    I didn’t read the article and I’m not going to read it because there are a lot of such opuses in the press. However, I want to note that China does not defeat the United States. Americans, sensing a clear threat, mobilize and declare the yellow-skinned Cold War in which they will succeed. we need to push all the warring parties to the confrontation and come out at the end of its maximum power.
    1. abdrah
      abdrah 6 December 2013 16: 27
      +3
      Omerika was already trying to start transferring production and jobs back to her from Asian and other countries - in the city of Tidewater in Virginia, the former texitical capital of the United States, they decided to resume the production of towels for the Volmart chain of stores - they swelled a few billion (!) Dollars, built production, provided everything shops with towels but new jobs came out, either 24 or 28 pcs ... Having hit the calculator, the capitalist quickly realized that it was better to pay the welfare (allowance) to blacks and others and give out food for food than to create jobs for $ 100.000.000 worth per person and let the ketai sew rags.
      PSNever the capitalists will give the important technology to anyone else — China, Russia, etc. — towels are please, iPhone, etc., but what is really worthwhile, never!
    2. Encoder
      Encoder 6 December 2013 16: 56
      0
      - I didn’t read the article and I’m not going to read it -
      And this is not the first time. It’s dangerous here with you.
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 6 December 2013 18: 22
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      it is necessary to push all the warring parties to the confrontation and exit at the end of its maximum power.


      The main thing is not to overdo it, but then, at the end, you can go forward with your feet ... the whole planet. wassat
  6. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 6 December 2013 16: 14
    +3
    There are many Chinese. They are disciplined, organized and hardy. They set their tasks and goals, and quietly glancing toward them. This is their great advantage. And the Americans begin to slowly decompose from their well-being. Nothing is eternal under the Moon.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 6 December 2013 16: 31
      0
      Quote: x.andvlad
      There are many Chinese. They are disciplined, organized and hardy.

      At the expense of discipline, you went a little over.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 6 December 2013 16: 55
      +4
      The dog knows them, these Chinese. Some muddy nation, but the Americans will lose the information war, but the trade and "hot" one is not known. The West does not care how a Negro from Harlem dies, from hunger or from a Chinese bullet. But money and business that's all for him. So what will we do to see how a Chinese monkey fights tigers.
    3. Encoder
      Encoder 6 December 2013 16: 58
      +3
      They have no democrats, this is the main thing.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 6 December 2013 18: 11
        +1
        They have a joke on this subject.
        Who rules the monarchy? Monarch.
        Who rules in a democracy? Democrat.
        Accurately and accurately.
    4. Arti
      Arti 6 December 2013 21: 35
      +1
      in China there is a problem to be solved. His future will depend on her - this is the gap between the incomes of the rich and the poor. Now they plow like this - for food, and when well-being increases, so that the urgent problems of the poor part of the Chinese population are satisfied, then it will become clear.
      Although, of course, the Chinese are great, they defeat the United States in their field, and this means that their leadership in the world economy is well-deserved and they have the right to use it.
  7. their
    their 6 December 2013 16: 24
    +5
    The United States will not steam, but simply close the project called the dollar, and all the Chinese trillions in papers will turn into garbage. They will come up with new paper, or they will use cryptocurrency Bitcoin.
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    3. Prophetic
      Prophetic 6 December 2013 18: 07
      +4
      Not so simple, my young friend. All American power rests on the agreement that the whole world is exchanging goods between countries in dollars. Only this demand gives it weight. The main source of US income is the issue of the dollar. The America that produced everything in the 70's is no longer there. So there is no dollar - no income for the USA itself, which is unacceptable.
      On the other hand, in the case of the transition of the United States to a new currency, Mr. Amero, they will throw not only China, but the whole world. Including their allies - the Saudis. Everyone will be robbed. But countries need to trade, which means they will have to urgently seek a replacement for the dollar. And in the light of the general robbery, this will definitely not be Amer. And in the currency of which country can I buy everything in the world? Which country do we have a global factory of everything? That's right - China. And the currency is RMB.
      Thus, the day after the rejection of the US dollar, they will wake up as a secondary power, while China will automatically wake up as a superpower.
      Hence the consequence: the United States will be able to scroll through such a trick either after the physical destruction of the INDUSTRY of China (and this is a war) or after the transfer of industry from China to other impoverished and controlled countries. And this time ... And the favor is growing ...
      1. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 6 December 2013 18: 29
        +2
        There is another option, for example, they can replace the dollar with the same bitcoin with the exchange of 1 to 10 or 1 to 100, so everyone sailed and you can’t refuse, then you can lose everything and you can think of anything you like, for example, the dollar does not meet modern protection standards and the new bitcoin is protected well very cool!
  8. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 6 December 2013 16: 37
    0
    Quote: Nayhas
    Quote: x.andvlad
    There are many Chinese. They are disciplined, organized and hardy.

    At the expense of discipline, you went a little over.

    I don’t think so. At home, they are tightly controlled by their own party. And not particularly ceremonial with violators.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 6 December 2013 16: 41
    +1
    What can I say ... like there in one of the tales ... the rebel fell, long live the dragon. If the Chinese are striving for this ... it means that their history of the world has not taught anything, all their lofty statements about oriental wisdom .. so simple chatter.
  10. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 6 December 2013 16: 53
    +7
    Washington has no more instruments of pressure on Beijing. The American military power of the Asian Dragon is no longer scary.

    It seems seriously smelled of burning! China is eager for world leaders. This is indicated by all the preparatory work.
    1. China made friends with Russia against USA.
    2. To get away from oil dependence (with logistics by sea), I laid a branch from our Far East. (oil is the blood of industry!)
    3. Exiting the foreign trade payment system for dollars is a blow to fin. USA system. This is a direct and obvious threat to the interests of the United States. The puppeteers of the Fed will not accept this!
    The following points concern me:
    1. Will China have enough strength? There would be no false start. After all, USAA is the strongest military power in the world, plus NATO. Talk about the ability to neutralize AVU and AES can remain talk.
    2. The whole mess will be directly at our Far Eastern borders. DV is not the best choice for us: almost the cat wept for strength there.
    3. What will be the reason for the war? If Taiwan (most likely and preferable for us) under the slogan of uniting the motherland and people is one thing. And if India? SRV? This is completely different. But the degree to which the Russian Federation is "involved" in these matters depends on this.
    4. And perhaps the main thing. China intends to bring down the global financial system based on the dollar. And this is very dangerous. This is a world crisis, this is a world war. The 5000 km of tunnels will come in handy to the Chinese, but what will they be? And then, it will affect us most directly. Our development funds and future generations at 50% in amerovsky securities, in banks of USA! (So, - our money cried?). Maybe that's why we increasingly began to put them into business so that they wouldn’t burn out inadvertently?
    5. Ordinary Chinese took it with great enthusiasm: "We must put the bandit in his place. And China must do it!" Those. the moral preparation of the people for war is almost complete. This is evidenced by the fact that the leadership denounced political goals in a simple and understandable slogan for the people, which the media will hammer into everyone's head. (Remember: "The enemy will be defeated, Victory will be ours!")
    So you need to quickly rearm. Recent meetings of the President in a narrow circle of military and proms (Strategic Rocket Forces, East Kazakhstan, Navy, Aviation) suggest certain thoughts.
  11. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 6 December 2013 17: 04
    -2
    Should the US and the EU impose broad sanctions against Chinese goods, it will be very shaky.
  12. morpogr
    morpogr 6 December 2013 17: 15
    +3
    China is slowly crushing America and if the Americans do not take a response, it will simply become completely dependent on China. And the sanctions against China are ridiculous throughout Europe and America sitting on the needle of producing goods in China. And if you block access to these goods in Europe and the United States, they will be replaced nothing or the price will be sky-high, and China will rely on the domestic market plus Asia and Africa.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 6 December 2013 18: 20
      0
      That's Africa !!! for 2011, 1,033 billion people!
    2. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 6 December 2013 18: 25
      -2
      There are many countries in Southeast Asia and all of them are booming.
      China can be successfully replaced by India.
      1. 1c-inform-city
        1c-inform-city 7 December 2013 13: 35
        +1
        Not a fact, the mentality of many Indians is not conducive to work from dawn to dawn.
  13. Sigismund
    Sigismund 6 December 2013 17: 19
    +3
    Yes, it seems that something big and bad is coming ... I think everyone will get it. Nowhere to go. It only comforts
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 6 December 2013 17: 46
      +2
      Yeah, as usual! Living well is not the main thing, the main thing is that others do not live better!
  14. RUS96
    RUS96 6 December 2013 17: 21
    +4
    "Goodbye America ..."
  15. Basilevs
    Basilevs 6 December 2013 17: 24
    0
    European countries that are part of "NATO". Their economies depend on the US dollar. And if the United States is in the ass, then the economies of these NATO countries will be in the same state. So the European Union will clutch their heads if there is a Chinese intervention in the direction of the United States.
    1. Basilevs
      Basilevs 6 December 2013 17: 58
      0
      Please ignore this illiterate comment. Outside interference.
    2. Victor-M
      Victor-M 6 December 2013 19: 09
      +1
      Quote: Basilevs
      So in the European Union they will clutch their heads if the Chinese intervention in the direction of the United States takes place.

      Why grab a head, the EU countries will clutch their hands together, and having turned 180 degrees, they will unanimously throw themselves with bows and asking them to shelter them, to our Eastern partners.
  16. VADEL
    VADEL 6 December 2013 17: 26
    +4
    The US is increasingly afraid of China

    That's GREAT NEW !!! They have long been afraid all and all! They act secretly (by the means of the CIA), they don’t go it alone (only in a crowd with NATO), and who they fought after Vietnam with islands and tribes. Chukhomory in a word! angry
  17. basmach
    basmach 6 December 2013 17: 30
    +9
    The Chinese are trying to put a good face on a bad game. Why no one thinks about the economic component. The lion's share of China's production is export-oriented, and the Yankees are the largest consumer of Chinese goods. With an appreciation of the yuan, foreign sales markets (not only American) will decrease, compensate which the domestic demand is simply physically unable to. What will follow this, it is not necessary to explain. In addition, there is one more problem - the lack of a mineral resource base (I do not mention the problem of the demographic "collapse", which China is now paying close attention to). According to Chinese analysts, GDP growth in China at the level of 2,5-3% per year corresponds to zero growth in the economies of Europe or America. China vital resources (including water and forest), which, except in the north, it has nowhere to take. I mean Siberia and the Far East. This is where all the thoughts of China are now directed (otherwise it will not survive the war with the Yankees due to lack of resources due to the naval blockade (not necessarily the coast). China will be able in the war for resources (that is, for a niche in the territory of Siberia and the Far East) to afford losses of 20 and 40 million people, without resorting to nuclear weapons (otherwise the meaning is lost). Having gained access to resources and securing their economy from raw material problems, it will be possible to start a fuss in Southeast Asia and America. But in any case, a war with the Yankees (and, accordingly, with their allies) means the collapse of the Chinese economy and China and is similar to suicide. Therefore, all this waving weapons and flags, slogans is more like a distraction, covering up real intentions in the near future. So Nodo is being prepared for us, not the Yankees, and as in the old joke, have at least two machine guns, otherwise one will overheat.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 6 December 2013 18: 31
      +2
      Your reasoning makes sense only if you exclude the fact that Russia has nuclear weapons. After they snoop behind the Siberian forest, they will not be able to recover, but they will have to forget about confronting usa forever !!!
      1. basmach
        basmach 6 December 2013 18: 45
        +1
        Patton5
        However, China also has it and is quite capable of applying it in the European part of Russia (but not in Siberia). The paradox is that neither they nor we can apply it precisely in the combat zone. And it is this paradox that gives China a cardinal advantage in case of war. It will have to be carried out by conventional means.
        1. Patton5
          Patton5 6 December 2013 19: 43
          +1
          let's argue ... In your opinion, there are weapons, but they won’t use them. To fight with China by conventional means, Russia will lose with a high degree of probability. Consequently, the Far East and Siberia will leave China to the Urals! Then what is the point of not using nuclear weapons? Save Resources for Chinese Comrade request
        2. Patton5
          Patton5 6 December 2013 20: 00
          0
          I read your koment several times))) It seems to understand what you meant by
          neither they nor we will be able to apply it precisely in the combat zone
          But it seems to me that such a variant of events is unlikely. Blows will be inflicted on clusters of troops and throughout the territory of the enemy !!! S-500 Russia to the rescue angry
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  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 December 2013 17: 44
    0
    I think the United States (or rather, the shadow of the financial elite) special cheering China (just notice it goes .. infa and it goes ...) China is one of the most important sponsors of naglosaksa! They won’t give up debts and ten generations in the states ..... The mother will write everything off from the war .. The main problem is how to blame anyone for this (and we will sit across the ocean and will exchange arms as always in exchange for debt and gold ..) In the event of a military conflict, even a local one .. the Chinese will lose as usual (they will put a lot of people ..) They don’t have experience of real military operations .. I think so ..
  19. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 6 December 2013 18: 06
    +1
    For Putin, a positive solution to the Ukrainian problem will be the final recognition of Russia as a superpower, to whose opinion they will carefully listen and even help in some cases. Since Russia (the USSR) has shown more and more truth, and Putin as President can keep his word, responsibility in foreign policy. The internal one depends on the persecution from the Serdyukovs. China, by the nature of the East, understands an honest word as pragmatically as the Westerners, that is, unreliable. In short, the United States will be replaced by Russia and the international institutions that Putin will raise. Japan must be reconciled.
  20. basmach
    basmach 6 December 2013 18: 09
    +2
    MIKHAN
    And they don’t even need this experience for hell, the benefit of human reserves, and despite the number of troops for the Urals as a result of all the reforms and Serdyukovism, they still have to look for our troops throughout Siberia. By and large, they and their technology enough in excess, they will make their way in small groups of 2-3 million people .. so as not to attract special attention.
  21. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 December 2013 18: 30
    +2
    Quote: basmach
    MIKHAN
    And they don’t even need this experience for hell, the benefit of human reserves, and despite the number of troops for the Urals as a result of all the reforms and Serdyukovism, they still have to look for our troops throughout Siberia. By and large, they and their technology enough in excess, they will make their way in small groups of 2-3 million people .. so as not to attract special attention.

    laughing
    I’ve already written a joke here:
    The Chukchi is asked: Can you fight the Chinese?
    Chukchi: Well, we can however ..
    So, after all, there are a billion Chinese and few of you ..?
    Chukchi; Uh ... however, you will have to bury a lot .. laughing
    This is an old joke but says a lot ..
    And one more thing: Chinese anti-tank crew ... a million Chinese with screwdrivers.
    But seriously ... There are not so many Chinese in Moscow and mainly in Russia (well, the Far East, if only they have a lot of ours there ..) China will not quarrel with Russia (they remember us well ..) Here such things: Here the states want to throw them at a trillion that's where the showdown will be ..
  22. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 6 December 2013 18: 31
    0
    If China strides widely, it will rip his pants. It will be replaced by India. winked
    1. basmach
      basmach 6 December 2013 18: 55
      +1
      I would like to remind you that they have already thrown hats at 41. Want to see the result, go at least once to search and pick up at least one soldier. At the same time, remember about 2.5 million dead and 8,6 million lossless losses of the Red Army. And the Mndus have already tried to fight with China, it didn’t end with anything good for them. Yes, and who will replace it?
      1. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 6 December 2013 19: 26
        0
        He will be replaced by the Western world as a potentially dangerous player in the world arena in the economically developed but not dangerous India and all of China’s southern neighbors will be connected.
        Replace in the sense of transferring production from China to India and he grunts. laughing
        1. avg
          avg 6 December 2013 21: 57
          0
          economically developed but not dangerous India

          Are you serious? And what will happen to the economy, if suddenly India starts to take care of the Indians a little bit, and not just pump money for weapons from them? request
          1. EdwardTich68
            EdwardTich68 6 December 2013 22: 45
            0
            India is a Nazi state geek. This is the future of 3rd Reich if he had won, after 80 years. The caste system that has grown into the nation’s genes will not allow itself anything social, especially with regard to the lower ones. Let me remind you that the lower castes in India are the descendants of enslaved peoples who have lost touch with the past. This is a classic
            the case of the ethnocide that our people would have expected if they lost in that war.
      2. BBM
        BBM 7 December 2013 06: 12
        0
        Quote: basmach
        2.5 million dead in captivity and about 8,6 million

        Well, add 2.5 + 8.6 ("combat losses") and you get a real figure of 11.5 million (+ those who died in hospitals). But the modern propaganda of the Russian Federation for some reason shyly keeps silent about this - telling fables about virtually equal losses in WWII of Germany and the USSR.
  23. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 6 December 2013 18: 32
    +2
    And why did the "great" China scare the States so much? .. With its lunar rover with the proud name "Jade Hare"? .. Or maybe with its two-seat carrier-based fighter? ..
    So far, the Han people have a navel free to take off the American from its pedestals. And even more so, he will free himself to pull world hegemony ...
    But in books, of course, the "great" China can "get angry" a lot. The Han people like to read it and dream. Let them continue to read and dream ...

    Once the Red Guards' roof was blown off by Mao's "quotation book" ... Now the roof will be blown off by a new book ...
  24. avg
    avg 6 December 2013 18: 42
    +2
    Firstly, the report states, China has not 300 nuclear warheads, as the Pentagon believed, but three thousand. Secondly, this weapon is securely hidden in a system of Chinese underground tunnels and bunkers, which stretches for almost 5000 kilometers.

    They lied of course, but it’s high time China included in all arms limitation treaties.
  25. homosum20
    homosum20 6 December 2013 18: 47
    +3
    America's weight relies on the fleet and army. Not a dollar. America itself created a situation of overflowing the world with dollars on purpose — they lived off this. Further, the US state does not even have to give up the dollar. Read on the top edge of the buck - the paper of the Federal Reserve System. What does the USA have to do with it? If people hawala = his problems.
    And Chinese imperialism is no better than American. Only the American is overseas, and the Chinese will be at hand, and due to their geographical position, they will be the first to entice us.
    The familiar evil is always better than the unfamiliar.
  26. Victor-M
    Victor-M 6 December 2013 19: 13
    +1
    Poor, poor USA, to which bears do not give rest, but what is it?
  27. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 6 December 2013 19: 14
    +3
    About three thousand warheads in China - I do not believe it!

    Someone recently explained well that you won’t jump above the head in the production of nuclear weapons.

    Reactors in China produced no more than a few hundred warheads of plutonium and other isotopes.

    For uranium - the same thing. The production of isotopes and the enrichment of uranium is slow and limits the process.
  28. individual
    individual 6 December 2013 19: 57
    +2
    For Russia, the main thing is not to let the United States or China drag itself into their disassembly.
    We must use the chance of time of their confrontation to strengthen the Russian economy.
    Use their miscalculations for the formation of self in domestic and foreign policy.
    The main thing is not to sit on two chairs - this is the road to nowhere.
  29. Semurg
    Semurg 6 December 2013 20: 15
    +2
    will the main producer and seller of goods fight the main buyer? I think they will agree only at whose expense? So far, the main candidates are Taiwan Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, well, if possible, the appetite will come to the seizures of larger players.
  30. not good
    not good 6 December 2013 21: 15
    0
    It seems that public opinion is gradually preparing for the fact that China is a threat to peace. The constant opposition of China to the USA will not end in good. The Anglo-Saxons flirted with Hitler in the late 30s and then got frightened and set Germany against the USSR. You don't even have to look for analogies with today , everything is in the palm of your hand. May God be ready for such surprises, and not adjust everything along the way as in World War II.
  31. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 6 December 2013 22: 13
    0
    The appearance on the world military-political scene of such a player as China somewhat removes the psychological burden from Russia in the confrontation with the United States. Confront America together, Russia and China easier. But there is one "hitch". Beijing's actions need eye and eye. The hour is uneven and the "strategic partner" can arrange a zapad for us.
  32. radar69
    radar69 6 December 2013 23: 03
    0
    In March 1969, the Chinese People’s Hunweibins tried to take possession of Father Domansky, who belonged to the USSR. The border guards fought back, but the victims could not be avoided. In the 70s, the PRC decided to seize the territory of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in the province of Langoshone, but the Vietnamese already had experience in conducting a modern war with such a strong rival as the United States, and quickly drove the troops of the PRC to their territory.
  33. Alex 63
    Alex 63 6 December 2013 23: 33
    +1
    How will the United States sing if China demands payment of its debts (Government bonds, etc.). And not with paper dollars (this is truly a "wooden" currency) but with something real, for example, gold or territories if the States are unable to pay the debt?
  34. voliador
    voliador 7 December 2013 00: 46
    0
    The states themselves have made China what it is now. But do not flatter yourself - the Chinese want new living areas, and they will not follow them across the ocean!
  35. Keeper
    Keeper 7 December 2013 03: 52
    0
    Another 20 years and America will once again turn into the Wild West ....
    Aleksey63 and the territories of China, as they are needed, with their overpopulation and constant population growth!
    Russia, of course, is a tidbit for everyone, but smart people understand perfectly well that the "Russian spirit" you will win ... Therefore, the most painless thing for China is to actually ask the American government to "pay the bill" with lands ...
  36. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 7 December 2013 04: 13
    +1
    Quote: iulai
    If America is not a superpower, then China will crush us like a fly! Unas in Primorye is 2 million people, and opposite Primorye there is a Chinese province, 220 million people live there. They will go on foot across the border, with us, with our mess of bullets, there will not be enough cartridges for them!
    laughing they do not trample on the rampart, but in dashes, in small groups of 10 million people. wassat
  37. VADEL
    VADEL 7 December 2013 05: 22
    0
    Quote: Victor-M
    Poor, poor USA, to which bears do not give rest, but what is it?

    So I'm talking about the same thing - I’m lying on the couch, scratching my belly with my paw, and why am I not giving them peace. recourse
  38. hrych
    hrych 7 December 2013 06: 02
    +2
    China, as the world's largest importer of "black gold", is switching from the dollar to the yuan when evaluating contracts for crude oil and no longer intends to accumulate foreign exchange reserves.

    It’s great of course, only oil dealers were not asked, and in the store prices are by no means in the mounds.
    Considering that there are about $ 2,5 trillion in the PRC's money-box today, plus $ 1,3 trillion of American debt obligations, then these decisions of Beijing could become crushing blows to the coffin of the American economy.

    So who will suffer from the abolition of the dollar in global commodity-money settlement? So probably who most of all this stuff has accumulated. Those. about 4 trillion dollars, accumulated over decades, by the labor to wear several generations of people with the back of the yellow tide, if they turn into nothing, apparently China will be very happy. And I wonder whose coffin lid, is it not the other way around? Strange logic of the author of the article, though
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 December 2013 06: 18
      +2
      apparently such logic
  39. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 7 December 2013 10: 42
    0
    Oh, I hope there is a situation in the world where Russia will finally be able to play the third role, and not climb on the horns. Let Putin screw up in domestic politics, the main thing is that the KGB man does not profuse. Let the 3 "great" powers of the USA and China cripple each other.
  40. Averias
    Averias 7 December 2013 11: 23
    0
    Well, exactly, the USA is a client of a mental hospital. Manias and phobias are off the charts. They can not live without "enemies" at all. They constantly need an enemy, and the richer (resources, territories) the better. They will increase their presence, why excuse me, the navel will not crack? The issue of reducing the part of the AUG is still being discussed. And the presence in that region, only with the help of AUG, can be indicated, since they are mobile. Behind all these loud words, only one thing is visible - the USA will score (excuse me), and it will score a lot. If a part of the world gives up the wrappers called the dollar - it's worth it to spectacle. It is not for nothing that the Rockefeller clan is withdrawing assets from the United States, and transferring them to all that is possible, getting rid of dollars. They openly offer to create financial centers around the world, and trade there not for the dollar (there are enough alternative currencies).
  41. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 7 December 2013 13: 54
    +1
    You are not quite right. Since the days of the USSR, the General Staff in the war against China has always taken into account the possibility of using nuclear weapons, at least tactically. And there is one advantage, we have very few populated areas, and China has a population ten times higher. And the option of destroying the great dams was always considered, after which a quarter of the area of ​​China was washed off into the ocean. (God forbid, of course, such a reality)
    Quote: basmach
    Patton5
    However, China also has it and is quite capable of applying it in the European part of Russia (but not in Siberia). The paradox is that neither they nor we can apply it precisely in the combat zone. And it is this paradox that gives China a cardinal advantage in case of war. It will have to be carried out by conventional means.