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"Two Putin" is a victory

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Deputy of the Sevastopol City Council from the Party of Regions of Ukraine faction Sergei Smolyaninov published a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin with a request to bring Russian troops into Ukraine to protect the country from the "US Army and their NATO aggressors." “My appeal is a reaction to a published petition on the official website of the White House. Its authors directly call for military intervention in the territory of independent Ukraine. Russia should intervene as agreed with Ukraine in the event of a military intervention by the United States, ”Smolyaninov explains his position,“ in my opinion, there is a clear, well-thought-out plan funded by Western intelligence agencies to overthrow the lawfully elected president of Ukraine. ”


"Two Putin" is a victory


The somewhat emotional appeal of the Sevastopol resident is quite in the spirit of today's events in Ukraine, this is a kind of response to the extremist hate speech of leaders like Lutsenko about the phantom “Russians tanks". The most interesting thing, in the depths of their hearts, everyone understands, especially the Western "fifth column", which is doing dirty work today for the sake of the "European future", that Smolyaninov told the pure truth about the events in Ukraine. President Putin said the same thing, only in diplomatic language. And, secondly, Smolyaninov turned directly to the Russian president.

It is no longer news: The West constantly instigates riots, and makes extremists "peaceful demonstrators", even in Egypt, even in Syria, and today in Ukraine. Soon, President Yanukovych will be declared a bloody dictator, as required by the American scenario of the Orange Revolution. All means will be good and acceptable to the West for the sake of turning Ukraine into an "associated" western colony. And many notebook "patriots of Ukraine" agree on this, that is the absurdity of the current Ukrainian situation, for the sake of "European values". They agree in advance to be the "cannon fodder" of the unfolding new orange coup. And, it seems, they do not understand that Poland will be the head of this colony! The simplest dvuhhodovka!

If you look from the height of the Russian storiestoday in Ukraine-Ukraine, as if in miniature, the era of the Time of Troubles of the XVII century is repeated. Then the people of all Russia were also disoriented, the boyars tops betrayed national interests for the sake of the then “European values”, and the Poles. Today the Russian-Ukrainian people are disoriented, the Ukrainian government also leads a round dance with foreign powers, hiding behind political abstractions, and again the Poles are most involved.

In that old century, among the spiritual desert and dumbness, letters of Patriarch Hermogenes suddenly flew all over Russia. They awakened in people a sense of self-esteem and love for their land, they were read in cities and villages, and only then the tradesman Minin and Prince Pozharsky appeared, the leaders who had finished with the Troubles. And St. Hermogenes was taken into custody by the Poles and Russian traitors, and in severe imprisonment of 17 in February of 1612, he died a martyr from hunger and thirst ...

The appeal of Sergei Smolyaninov is reminiscent of the letters of Patriarch Hermogenes. His idealism, faith and inflexibility. When there will be many such “letters”, then, probably, the new Minin and the new Pozharsky will come ...

Politically, Ukraine seems to be stuck in the 90s, and only now is its transition to the “zero” Russian years. Russia 90-s is the power of the oligarchs from behind Yeltsin, and the oligarch Firtash and the company also "ruled" Ukraine to the West from behind Yanukovich. At the last moment, already with the “noose” of association around his neck, Yanukovych saw the light of what the colonial share was prepared for Ukraine, and how it would end for him personally.

There are only two options for how this “loop” will end: bad and good. We will not speak about bad things. And the good thing is that the Ukrainian authorities will be able to “equitably remove” the power of their oligarchs, as Putin did in Russia during his “zero years”. This will mean that Ukraine will have its own “Ukrainian Putin”. Who will they be - we will not guess. But when it appears, the “two Putin's” will easily agree with the West about the truly equal conditions of the “association.”
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  1. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 6 December 2013 07: 49 New
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    It is advisable without the introduction of troops, otherwise this can lead to blood and moral defeat of Russia. Power actions only in response to actions, and a petition in response to a petition.
    1. air wolf
      air wolf 6 December 2013 08: 14 New
      72
      They will answer for Sevastopol, as there are so many of our roofs spilled that it’s even impossible to spit on the sidewalk. Everything is sacred there! Ours is Slavic.
      It will be like in Yugoslavia, everything goes to this. It would be necessary to collect a referendum and everything will fall into place, without bloodshed. Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!
      1. Apostle
        Apostle 6 December 2013 09: 22 New
        27
        Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!
        Holy words !!! I support !!!
        1. A.YARY
          A.YARY 6 December 2013 10: 44 New
          34
          Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!

          I would say Ukraine Russia Belarus -one people, one soul!

          Our small arms with virchu need to play!
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 6 December 2013 12: 00 New
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            Quote: A.YARY
            I would say Ukraine Russia Belarus -one people, one soul!

            VelikoROSY.MALOROSY, Belorussy Great, Small and White Russia-ORTHODOX. As soon as they forgot about it and went division into the Outskirts.
            1. A.YARY
              A.YARY 6 December 2013 12: 02 New
              +3
              Stanislav good day
              Unification - the path to unification - I agree.
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 6 December 2013 12: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Ascetic
              Quote: A.YARY
              I would say Ukraine Russia Belarus -one people, one soul!

              VelikoROSY.MALOROSY, Belorussy Great, Small and White Russia-ORTHODOX. As soon as they forgot about it and went division into the Outskirts.


              More precisely, they will not be forgotten, but corroded.

              This procession on the planet sodomy can be stopped by the joint efforts of all honest people.
        2. tank 34
          tank 34 6 December 2013 13: 57 New
          +2
          Maintain YES, but only without, as already correctly said, without bloodshed. Troops cannot be entered, at least for now. But all efforts to attract Ukraine under our wing must be made.
        3. Ustas77
          Ustas77 6 December 2013 16: 06 New
          -35 qualifying.
          Yeah, it remains only to enter their rusty tanks to force brotherly love. Live yourselves for yourself, and don’t break into neighbors' houses.
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 6 December 2013 17: 59 New
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            Who is breaking, sickly? Which tanks?
            Read the agitation on the Maidan? It would be better if I did the lessons and taught mathematics with physics!)))))
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 18: 01 New
              +3
              Quote: klimpopov
              Who is breaking, sickly? Which tanks?

              Yes, this is the troll Klim.
            2. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 6 December 2013 18: 49 New
              +4
              His registration date is December 4th
            3. German
              German 7 December 2013 05: 27 New
              +2
              And "wono" can at least know how to read? I went down from the "polonini" for salt and they brought him to the Maidan ...
          2. _Forgiven_
            _Forgiven_ 6 December 2013 18: 55 New
            +9
            It depends on who has rusty tanks ... They themselves ditched several hundred pieces of equipment and left them rotting near Kharkov as a result of fucking "independence", and cut an airplane and missiles into metal, which had no analogues in the world. Think before speaking
          3. German
            German 7 December 2013 05: 25 New
            +4
            the time will come, and we’ll get you Bender’s extortion! am
      2. morpex
        morpex 6 December 2013 10: 54 New
        +6
        Quote: air wolf
        They will answer for Sevastopol,

        Who? Khrushchev? Yeltsin? Who!
        Quote: air wolf
        there is so much of our blood spilled,

        Ukrainian is no less.
        Quote: air wolf
        Everything is sacred there! Ours is Slavic.

        Is true!
        Quote: air wolf
        It will be like in Yugoslavia, everything goes to this.

        I won’t be sure. How would anyone not want ...
        Quote: air wolf
        It would be necessary to collect a referendum and everything will fall into place,

        He won’t. Again there will be fifti fifti. And what? Country to pieces?

        Quote: air wolf
        Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!

        All Ukraine respected. All ....
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 6 December 2013 11: 37 New
          +6
          Quote: morpex
          All Ukraine respected. All ....

          Only ALL. good
          1. Ulus5
            Ulus5 6 December 2013 16: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: morpex
            All Ukraine respected. All ....
            Only ALL.

            And the zapadentsy disagree with this in sunny Magadan.
            1. German
              German 7 December 2013 05: 32 New
              +1
              why banish the north? at their geyropu, at the geyropu!
          2. CHILD
            CHILD 6 December 2013 16: 42 New
            +1
            we have already completely collected Ukraine .... and we have what we have .... we didn’t finish off the Bandera supporters in due time, we thought it would resolve ..... so it "resolved" .... and now we don’t know what everything will end .... humanly sorry for people, but I'm not happy about the growth of Ukraine to Russia .... and besides the controversial geopolitics, there are no other advantages at all)))) we need to develop an army and navy, borders to strengthen ... and there it will already be seen)))) and in general the idea of ​​the USSR is a good thing ... but today it is not feasible .... but for now they want to go to Europe, but for God's sake)))) let them store fat, useful .....
          3. German
            German 7 December 2013 05: 30 New
            +1
            All, of course, all ... but without zapadenschina! wassat
      3. Igjr1966
        Igjr1966 6 December 2013 16: 00 New
        -21 qualifying.
        And the split Mordovian-Chuvash-Buryat populations became Slavs
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 6 December 2013 20: 04 New
          +7
          Quote: Igjr1966
          And the split Mordovian-Chuvash-Buryat populations became Slavs

          The appearance of the Volga peoples is more Slavic than that of the black people from the indelible mud of Galitsa. He served, saw, had the opportunity to compare. And if we compare moral and business qualities - then cavemen from the Carpathians, troglodytes in a scientific way, are most expedient Pelku stools(close mouth Little Russian).
    2. Canep
      Canep 6 December 2013 08: 41 New
      20
      What is the entry of troops? Ukrainians themselves must deal with their problems, decide to blame Europe - let them go, and Russia has enough of its problems in the Caucasus. I don’t think that the introduction of troops will positively solve the problem, it will only get worse. Those who were against the EU will most likely change their minds to the opposite after, God forbid, their relatives, close or just acquaintances, die or suffer, and it will not do without it. NATO will not climb into Ukraine, recent exercises in Poland have shown the almost complete failure of the armies of eastern Europe. But the transfer of American, French, German, British troops takes time, and this will not go unnoticed.
      1. Grandson of Veteran
        Grandson of Veteran 6 December 2013 10: 33 New
        12
        "What is the input of troops?"
        Absolutely agree. Let them decide for themselves. If you decide to permanently stay with the Russian Federation, then a single air defense and joint rapid deployment forces. And now to intervene, only to strengthen the positions of the pro-Westerners with their own hands.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 6 December 2013 10: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: Veteran's grandson
          Let them decide for themselves. If you decide to permanently stay with the Russian Federation, then a single air defense and joint rapid deployment forces.

          On the one hand, correctly, but on the other, are you sure that the internal troops of Ukraine will be able to defend Kiev in front of several thousand trained militants? The Syrians already say that everything happens in Ukraine one by one .. The Syrian Army of Damascus defended with great difficulty, because hardened in battles, but I'm not sure about the Ukrainian one ..
    3. Apostle
      Apostle 6 December 2013 09: 21 New
      +2
      .. Thank you for the article, I set it up for positive. There was a belief in the best. I would like everything to end in peace .. And then there is no need for another fratricidal war.
    4. domokl
      domokl 6 December 2013 09: 22 New
      +7
      Quote: FC Skif
      It is advisable without the introduction of troops, otherwise this can lead to blood and moral defeat of Russia.

      So far, no one has canceled the agreement on mutual assistance. What you propose is called to hit the tail ... And the teeth most often are just on the other side.
      While there is no real threat of NATO and US troops entering, while there is no request from the Ukrainian government, Russia is just a spectator. Intervention in internal affairs is the last thing, excuse my pun. But if there is a threat of NATO troops entering Ukraine, we will have to show who is who. ..
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 6 December 2013 10: 46 New
        +7
        the introduction of troops at the request of the governments of Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, etc., and where did this lead to the friendship of peoples? Citizens of Ukraine should put their own order in themselves and decide how and with whom to live further, and not call for the invasion and occupation of a neighboring state. The West is not going to enter troops into Ukraine yet, but inform. attacks and pro-Western propaganda should respond with their own propaganda (if Ukraine is really important to you, and not just to joke about some stupid khokh-ly). I think if Russia needs Ukraine it needs to offer an alternative to the "Western showcase", and not offer to replace home-grown oligarch-thieves with Russian oligarch-thieves.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 8 December 2013 00: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Semurg
          the introduction of troops at the request of the governments of Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, etc., and where did this lead to the friendship of peoples? Citizens of Ukraine should put their own order in themselves and decide how and with whom to live further, and not call for the invasion and occupation of a neighboring state. The West is not going to enter troops into Ukraine yet, but inform. attacks and pro-Western propaganda should respond with their own propaganda (if Ukraine is really important to you, and not just to joke about some stupid khokh-ly). I think if Russia needs Ukraine it needs to offer an alternative to the "Western showcase", and not offer to replace home-grown oligarch-thieves with Russian oligarch-thieves.
          - and if Yanuca is declared a "butcher" and humanitarian bombing starts, as in Yugoslavia? Well, Polish troops will start a ground operation? Ukraine has almost no army ... Then what? Can we enter if Yanyk officially applies? Well, it really hochtsa that ours repeated the tricks in the Korean and Vietnamese wars, when the Yankees were knocked out a lot! After all, it is felt that for a long time no one seriously drove the Yankees in the sky, they finally relaxed
      2. xan
        xan 6 December 2013 15: 05 New
        +5
        Quote: domokl
        But if there is a threat of NATO troops entering Ukraine, we will have to show who is who ...

        no NATO will get there. I’m not afraid of pathos, in the world there is not a single state or union of states that would decide to fight with Russia for Ukraine. And this Ukraine is a damn thing for ordinary foreign soldiers, they are unlikely to even get out of the bars for their countries. And we dohren people for our Ukrainians and can fight.
        So a possible adversary is Russophobian militants from around the world, and they can be extinguished for a sweet soul.
    5. seller trucks
      seller trucks 6 December 2013 09: 34 New
      +6
      Zapadensky "fifth column",


      hmm, a funny metamorphosis, as long as I remember Ukraine, Russians have always been called the "fifth column".

      This will mean that Ukraine will have its own “Ukrainian Putin”. We won’t guess who will become them.


      Nehru this does not mean. The receiver’s West has already appointed, it will be with a club Klitschko
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 6 December 2013 11: 37 New
        10
        Klitschko

        Recently, he felt such disgust at him at some subcutaneous level.
        Especially when he ... Well, in general you know.
        1. seller trucks
          seller trucks 6 December 2013 12: 13 New
          +4
          actually there is nothing to object. on the other hand, if to be objective, the project "Klitschko" can be considered successful, against the background of the "pale" opposition it looks fresh, but the boxer is a president, a politician, in my opinion. you can naturally recall Reagan, but Ukraine is on the States, the level is too small
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 6 December 2013 12: 18 New
        +5
        Quote: seller trucks
        The West has already appointed a receiver, it will be Klitschko’s oak


        And Prime Minister Tyagnibok or a bald man with glasses. That's the whole European choice.
        1. seller trucks
          seller trucks 6 December 2013 13: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          And Prime Minister Tyagnibok or a bald man with glasses. That's the whole European choice.


          there is also a Heb ... oligarch Poroshenko, more likely, and Prime Minister Tyagnibok good it will be fun.
          1. polly
            polly 6 December 2013 21: 24 New
            +2
            And Poroshenko CONFECTS wants to sell to Russia, and live in Europe!
        2. Farik
          Farik 6 December 2013 17: 09 New
          +8
          Quote: Ascetic
          And Prime Minister Tyagnibok or a bald man with glasses. That's the whole European choice.

          Here is one of the "Western" receivers:
          1. polly
            polly 6 December 2013 21: 22 New
            +3
            Why his face every day on Russian TV? The opponents of the Euro-preoccupations have only been shown once, and this has already been memorized by face and handwriting! Russian liberal media in their line!
      3. yankeegohome
        yankeegohome 6 December 2013 15: 07 New
        +1
        Klitschko? Will they also be transported in a sealed carriage from Berlin?)))) And what will he write in the questionnaire in the column "Place of last work"? Bouncer in the Kiev market?))
    6. nycsson
      nycsson 6 December 2013 09: 39 New
      +3
      Yeah! Lived a pancake ...... crying
    7. host
      host 6 December 2013 11: 33 New
      +4
      While Ukrainians have not decided on their future and will not fight for the future for it in practice, not in words, any HELP is useless.
      Russia alone is holding back the fall of "civilization" in HELL, and it still has its own people.
      1. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 6 December 2013 16: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: master
        Ukraine will have its own “Ukrainian Putin”. Who will become them - we will not guess

        It is hard to believe that an independent president will appear in Ukraine, and not a puppet, as usual.
    8. Ascetic
      Ascetic 6 December 2013 11: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: FC Skif
      It is advisable without the introduction of troops, otherwise this can lead to blood and moral defeat of Russia.


      There are several petitions registered on the White House website that relate to the situation in Ukraine. In one of them, they call on the country to send peacekeeping forces and international observers. The document has already been signed by more than 1 thousand people, reports Interfax.

      Another petition calls on the American side to help "overthrow anti-people’s power by all means available." “Please declare the president of Ukraine, members of the government of Ukraine and the Party of Regions criminals and help the people overthrow the anti-people regime of Yanukovych with all available methods, including the use of force,” the text says. This petition has collected more than 2 thousand signatures.

      The third option calls for helping Ukrainians deprive the current President Viktor Yanukovych of their powers military intervention. He scored more than 8 thousand supporters. Another petition with 5,5 thousand signatures calls introduce military intervention in Ukraine.
      In the United States collect votes for the introduction of troops in Ukraine

      S. Lavrov on the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine 4.11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 December 2013 19: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: FC Skiff
      It is advisable without the introduction of troops, otherwise this can lead to blood and moral defeat of Russia. Power actions only in response to actions, and a petition in response to a petition.


      Don't be afraid, you need to be bolder. It's still elementary. An airborne brigade disembarks at the airport in Kiev, and the next day there are no longer any Maidans and other crap. Then it also happens in all major cities. The Airborne Forces suppresses the active names of the homeland, the local troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all who turn up at hand. At the same time, the odious Galitsians and representatives of the "democratic" press disappear in between. A week is deadline and Ukraine is united and healthy.
    10. Ah1ll
      Ah1ll 8 December 2013 18: 15 New
      0
      you all want Joseph Visarionovich! And one without the other is not conceivable
  2. Volkhov
    Volkhov 6 December 2013 07: 56 New
    0
    Two Putin "is a victory

    In Russia, at least 3 Putin-it is quite possible to share with Ukraine ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 10: 10 New
      11
      Quote: Volkhov

      In Russia, at least 3 Putin -

      But can I see everyone?
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 6 December 2013 12: 58 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But can I see everyone?


        Yes, some ... posted on YAPLAKAL three photos of Putin, there people are sitting and discussing this crap
        Three different Putin
        And now the shit will begin to boil over the next stuffing that Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are subject to amnesty, although the State Duma has not yet considered this issue and there is only a draft resolution developed
        The Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights(there are such personalities as Svanidze, Gusev, Khakamada, Parfenov for example)
        link
        And now "Kommersant" is in a hurry to "please"
        judging by the draft, the accused under Part 1 of Art. 293 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (negligence) - she is currently being charged with the ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. Also, the opportunity to retrain the amnesty case remains with the defendant in the Oboronservis case, Yevgeny Vasilyev.

        link
        And there was a wave of guan against Putin, which was INSTRUCTED by this Council to prepare a draft resolution on amnesty, which will be (before the end of the week) submitted to the State Duma for discussion and will take a FINAL VIEW only after discussion by the deputies and amendments.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 13: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: Ascetic
          And a wave of guanas raced against Putin, who was INSTRUCTED by this Council to prepare a draft decree on amnesty

          You shouldn't have written this Stanislav, Yarosvet and Valkyrie are already carefully working on your links. Tomorrow we are waiting for "revelations" laughing
          П hi rivet
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 6 December 2013 14: 47 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            You shouldn't have written this Stanislav, Yarosvet and Valkyrie are already carefully working on your links. Tomorrow we are waiting for "revelations


            Already desperately press the fan button.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 8 December 2013 00: 52 New
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              Already desperately press the fan button.

              - I'm somehow not afraid laughing Let them try to throw it - I have the same unit, I threw it at them yesterday, I can throw them as much without problems as they do - they’re going to rake them. laughing
    2. Canep
      Canep 6 December 2013 10: 30 New
      10
      Quote: Volkhov
      In Russia, at least 3 Putin-it is quite possible to share with Ukraine ...

      When you double, you need to drink less, and when you triple it is to the doctor.
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 6 December 2013 11: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Volkhov
      In Russia, at least 3 Putin

      Name two more. Very interesting......
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 11: 26 New
        +6
        Quote: nycsson

        Name two more.

        Well, it says three Putin! Putin, Putin and Putin again laughing shorter bite is necessary.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 6 December 2013 11: 48 New
          +8
          Putin
          Total 4
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 13: 07 New
            +5
            Quote: klimpopov
            Putin
            Total 4

            No Klim there are five of them! Fifth moves imperceptibly laughing
            1. Canep
              Canep 6 December 2013 14: 03 New
              +2
              Ta-ah-ak! Alexander can’t pour it anymore. It’s already Friday evening in the Far East, it seems he’s gone through it too, Klima too, it seems that they are already walking in the Stavropol Territory. am
              laughing laughing drinks
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 6 December 2013 15: 03 New
                +2
                Ta-ah-ak! Alexander can’t pour it anymore. It’s already Friday evening in the Far East, it seems he’s gone through it too, Klima too, it seems that they are already walking in the Stavropol Territory.

                Only in anticipation. We have a Moscow))))
                drinks
                1. Canep
                  Canep 6 December 2013 15: 06 New
                  +3
                  We started about the two Putin and judging by the post below there is already their whole matrix
                  Quote: smprofi
                  there in the column behind each of the 4 along the front ... (military secret! shh! feel)

                  Imagine the face of Barak Huseynovich if he sees a whole crowd of GDP, I think he will cease to be a black for a long time wassat , and if he dreams about it in America, then mourning. crying
                  1. smprofi
                    smprofi 6 December 2013 15: 14 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Canep
                    will see a whole crowd of GDP

                    eh ... how much can you say! GDP crowd does not go! exclusively in order or rebuilt into battle formation !!!
                  2. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 6 December 2013 15: 16 New
                    +1
                    in Stavropol

                    By the way, I just noticed)))))
                    In real life, we have been talking in the Stavropol Territory. Not fundamentally, of course, absolutely, but somehow more consonant or something)))))
                    Well, I'm so, I was just a little surprised that they say in the Pavlodar steppes in the Stavropol region)))))
                    Although much of the tagged went with accents, he is notable for the speech of a Russian cavern with accents, laughing prepositions, adverbs and the like
                    1. Canep
                      Canep 6 December 2013 15: 39 New
                      +2
                      Then someone on the site wrote (I don't remember who) that Russians in Kazakhstan are more Russian than Russians in Russia. Therefore, in the Stavropol Territory, in Ukraine, in the Altai Territory, it is not "for" you (and us) to go, but in Altai for some reason, maybe because it is a mountain range on it "up the mountain". Although I am not a philologist, but an engineer, I may be wrong. They also say that we speak with a weak accent, of course not as pronounced as in the Volga region where my parents are from, or Uzbek Russians (they say there). In general, a Kazakh dialect has emerged.
                      1. smprofi
                        smprofi 6 December 2013 15: 47 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Canep
                        Then someone wrote on the site

                        I don’t know, I haven’t met. but in the good old days we met in practice with students from Leningrad and somehow a dispute arose: who speaks more correctly in Russian, guys from Leningrad or Kiev. in general, calmly, without screaming and scuffle, we came to the conclusion that they were speaking more correctly from Kiev. and, to a large extent, this decision was just the guys from Leningrad.
                  3. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Canep
                    Imagine the face of Barak Huseynovich if he sees a whole crowd of GDP

                    I greeted one, negotiated with the second, dined with the third, signed documents with the fourth, and the fifth present at that time was fishing laughing
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  We have a Moscow)))

                  Klim, Moscow time, and salaries wassat
                  1. Canep
                    Canep 6 December 2013 15: 40 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Klim, Moscow time, and wassat salaries
                    Do not hit Klim on the patient. This is against site rules. laughing
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 54 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Canep
                      Do not hit Klim on the patient. This is against site rules.

                      Yes, Klim will withstand it, but when Yarosvet looks here and sees how many Putin we have here, a minimum heart attack, a maximum flees the country laughing
                      1. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 6 December 2013 16: 07 New
                        +1
                        why run away from the country? oligarchs are running, for example, I’m not for Putin and I’m not going to run
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 16: 55 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Soldier's grandson
                        oligarchs are running, for example, I’m not for Putin and I’m not going to run

                        And Yarosvet against Putin laughing
                    2. Ascetic
                      Ascetic 6 December 2013 17: 13 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Yes, Klim will withstand it, but when Yarosvet looks here and sees how many Putin we have here, a minimum heart attack, a maximum flees the country


                      The more Putin. The more Gesheft Yarosvet. Especially since I threw a bone here yesterday that Putin was going to rule before the age of 30, no one was led, apparently they began feverishly counting how much they would earn on it during this time ...
          2. smprofi
            smprofi 6 December 2013 14: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: klimpopov
            Putin
            Total 4

            No Klim there are five of them! Fifth moves imperceptibly

            fir-trees! But the Koran forbids using technical intelligence tools and seeing the depth of the system? yes there in the column behind each of the 4's on the front ... (military secret! shh! repeat )
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 6 December 2013 15: 08 New
              +3
              fir-trees! But the Koran forbids using technical intelligence tools and seeing the depth of the system? yes there in the column behind each of the 4's on the front ... (military secret! shh!
              1. Canep
                Canep 6 December 2013 15: 18 New
                +3
                Liberal nightmare !!! And how many of these Putin units are you still cloning?
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 6 December 2013 15: 23 New
                  +2
                  Photoshop is still open. Do you need skills?)))) We will throw aircraft to the rear.
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 34 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Canep
                  !!! And how many of these Putin units are you still cloning?

                  In each city, the house is access via Putin. Our mayor hangs first laughing
                3. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 6 December 2013 17: 17 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Canep
                  Liberal nightmare !!!


                  A liberal’s nightmare

              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 32 New
                +7
                Preparations for the 2014 Victory Parade. They will go in the first box. laughing
              3. Just Vasilich
                Just Vasilich 6 December 2013 20: 38 New
                0
                About Putin’s system from Klim:

                And each of them has its own team of "Petersburgers", "siloviks" and ... Serdyukovs, Chubais and others and so on ...
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 6 December 2013 15: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, it says three Putin! Putin, Putin and Putin again

        "Very witty"!
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        shorter bite is necessary.

        Unlike you, Romanov, I do not drink and do not smoke!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 15: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: nycsson
          Unlike you, Romanov, I do not drink and do not smoke!

          Shaw health does not allow recourse Well I'm still in my prime wink
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 6 December 2013 16: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Shaw health does not allow

            My health allows me to do kettlebell lifting. And also on 40 laps in the stadium to run 2 once a week.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well I'm still in my prime

            No comments......
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 17: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: nycsson
              My health allows me to do weight lifting

              Nuuuu, something like that wink
            2. Angry reader
              Angry reader 7 December 2013 01: 51 New
              +1
              16 km 2 times a week .. not trandi .. kettlebell swimming with a barbell))))
        2. smprofi
          smprofi 6 December 2013 16: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: nycsson
          I do not drink and do not smoke!

          it is, of course, everyone’s business to choose ...
          Looking at a person who doesn't smoke or drink. inevitably, you ask yourself: "Isn't he a bastard?"

          © A. Chekhov
          He is either sent to us, or from us

          © M. Zhvanetsky
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 6 December 2013 16: 22 New
            0
            Quote: smprofi
            Looking at someone who does not smoke or drink. inevitably, you ask yourself: "Isn't he a bastard?"

            Chekhov will not write this! laughing
            Quote: smprofi
            He is either sent to us, or from us

            This statement is controversial, to say the least.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 17: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: nycsson

              This statement is controversial, to say the least.

              Exposed to say the least wassat
  • shinobi
    shinobi 6 December 2013 08: 01 New
    +6
    If Yanyk doesn’t begin to crush the Maidan now, he’s a political corpse and resignation is a technical issue. He will show stiffness, the shooting will very likely begin. In this option, the troops will have to be sent in. And it seems to me that this is the true plan of the puppeteers sitting very far from Europe.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 6 December 2013 09: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: shinobi
      In this version, the troops will have to enter.

      Russian Ukrainians themselves will cope. Power is in the truth. And the truth is Russian in Ukraine.
    2. domokl
      domokl 6 December 2013 09: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: shinobi
      If Yanyk doesn’t start pushing the Maidan now, he’s a political corpse and resignation is a technical issue

      I’m afraid that he became a corpse much earlier. At one time he was warned-you can’t sit on two chairs ... his pants will tear. Here and are torn. With his fawning on the West all the years of his presidency he averted those who supported him in the east of the country, and not by signing - those who supported in the west ...
    3. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 6 December 2013 09: 36 New
      19
      Yanukovych leader? Just an agreed puppet of oligarchic clans. Only these true holders of Ukraine exchanged fights with each other. Yanukovych rushed between them in order to maintain his toilet, as a result of the most intense moment of the confrontation. was sent to temporary isolation in China soldiers to look out of clay. The first persons of China did not meet him and did not extend their hands. Put in the hands of the governor of the province. Business meeting? I requested money. They didn’t give our happiness. And if they gave it on conditions of one and a half billion dollars and for every dollar in Chinese. The port decided to build in the Crimea. Half-loaded stand idle. Southern can be developed and developed. In Donuzlav, to deepen to 25 meters. in the sea the island can be built. Sand mostly. The Chinese that pay money. They will build a tunnel from China to Mizhegiri. They and the Bosphorus will deepen for capes. But the grief of Ukraine is that there is no worthy replacement for the hetman. So collective management is necessary, so that the nonsense and theft of every public one is. Parliamentary republic, federal. 23 years have shown that they built not a state, but a thieves den of vice.
      Well, about the puppeteers. There is definitely. And they’re not sitting overseas. We will find out soon.
      1. complete zero
        complete zero 6 December 2013 10: 35 New
        +1
        plus Captain sovereignly said (without sarcasm)
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 6 December 2013 12: 25 New
        +4
        The captain said not bad, but the puppeteers are still not in Russia, the Poles are very interested in this.
  • Normal
    Normal 6 December 2013 08: 02 New
    -6
    The appeal of Sergei Smolyaninov is somewhat reminiscent of the letters of Patriarch Germogen ......
    This will mean that Ukraine will have its own “Ukrainian Putin”


    Well, since the exalted deputy (he is in Ukraine, in Russia, in the European Parliament or in the representative bodies of the United States, as the practice of their statements shows, is the same everywhere; the language is half a meter, but there is no brain) resembles Germogen. Yanukovych - the second Putin, then who is the author of the article? Goebels does not reach, but there is a desire.
    Although ... As for the comparison of Yanukovych with Putin .... There is something in it. Both express the interests of a friendly oligarchy. Both of them are not from the capital. Both that and another interests of the population of the country to the bulb; the main profit is from the enterprises seized by friends.
    The difference is that "Ukrainian Putin" will leave, will not go anywhere. But ours is unlikely
    1. complete zero
      complete zero 6 December 2013 09: 00 New
      14
      (normal) - what do you let all the dogs go to Putin, why!? - did he carry out privatization, as a result of which the very fucking oligarchs appeared? -Putin gave Germany something, betrayed Serbia, started the war in the Caucasus ? PS-it is far from ideal, but Putin didn’t allow such catastrophes as in 90! Maybe (you’ll excuse me for banality) should you look at yourself in front of the mirror? Maybe it’s worth working (so as not to give the guest workers a chance?) in the gateways and throw cigarette butts past the ballot boxes?
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 6 December 2013 09: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: complete zero
        (normal) -What do you put all the dogs on Putin, why!

        Because he has brains in place, unlike .......
        1. complete zero
          complete zero 6 December 2013 10: 11 New
          +1
          Apparently your brain is not "ice" (you are not Chegevara for an hour ... revolutionary)
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 10: 14 New
          +8
          Quote: nycsson

          Because he has brains in place, unlike .......

          Niksson, so who do you want to see instead of Putin? Although there is a scenario, to overthrow Putin, and others will come for him. Will it be better? -I don’t think, but the chaos will be for sure, because whoever comes would defend his interests and his environment. So we get a redistribution of spheres of influence at all levels and no more.
          1. complete zero
            complete zero 6 December 2013 10: 43 New
            -1
            Mr. Romanov, I respect your Cynicism (for me this word is not a dirty word), we went through "These changes-reforms" (further not censored) ++++++
            1. Gecko
              Gecko 6 December 2013 11: 19 New
              -3
              full zero - full zero
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 6 December 2013 10: 51 New
            -1
            Quote: complete zero
            revolutionary

            I am not a revolutionary, I am a patriot of my Motherland! If there is a revolution in Russia (God forbid), then our "friends" in the west will scream with delight when our brother goes against brother. I recommend reading Starikov's book "Revolution or Special Operation".

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Niksson, so who do you want to see instead of Putin?

            The one who will think about the people, and not about his pocket and oligarch friends. For example, Kasatonov or Boldyrev. There are many worthy people in our country. Is not it?
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Although there is a scenario, overthrow Putin, and others will come for him.

            Yes, do not overthrow him. God forbid from such a scenario. He is the legally elected President, but he is acting not in the interests of the people.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , because whoever comes, will protect his interests and his environment.

            And here you are mistaken. We have many worthy people in our country who will protect the interests of the people, first of all, the country, and then everything else.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            So we get in the end the redistribution of spheres of influence at all levels and no more.

            we need to redo everything in the direction of the people.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 11: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: nycsson

              The one who will think about the people,

              Hmm, are there any?
              Quote: nycsson
              . For example Kasatonov or Boldyrev

              Believe not mine, but your life experience. When people come to power, they very quickly turn from worthy to sedimentary.
              Quote: nycsson
              we need to redo everything in the direction of the people.

              this is possible only with the advent of the revolution, and this is chaos and return to square one hi
              1. 31231
                31231 6 December 2013 14: 37 New
                0
                Alexander, in words they are all patriots and care for the country.
                Yanyk also blurted out his tongue before the election.
                And when they come to power and they will not succeed, then there is only one option to "pull up the good" for themselves and their children for the rest of their lives and dump them over the hill, because they will not be elected in the next elections. And the new team will start to squeeze out the gains of the former tsar with "back-breaking" work.
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 6 December 2013 15: 58 New
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hmm, are there any?

                I am sure there are.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Believe not mine, but your life experience. When people come to power, they very quickly turn from worthy to sedimentary.

                Not all.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                this is possible only with the advent of the revolution, and this is chaos and return to square one

                Or a general understanding of what is happening in the country. hi
            2. complete zero
              complete zero 6 December 2013 11: 45 New
              0
              one of the Country’s patriots was P.A. Stolopin (for some reason I can’t remember anyone else, although there were really worthy people), the patriots of their countries are Churchill, Pinochet, De Gaulle, Hitler .... and you and I (sorry for the sincerity ) -patriots of the same Maidan level not higher
            3. Sandov
              Sandov 6 December 2013 12: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: nycsson
              The one who will think about the people, and not about his pocket and oligarch friends. For example, Kasatonov or Boldyrev. There are many worthy people in our country. Is not it?

              Rokhlin was a worthy man, scum removed.
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 6 December 2013 16: 05 New
                0
                Quote: Sandov
                Rokhlin was a worthy man, scum removed.

                And Petrova too!
    2. RussianRu
      RussianRu 6 December 2013 09: 02 New
      +6
      That’s strange. Stand on your head and read the article again. Maybe a friend will understand the article. The author does not at all assign the role of the second Putin to Yanukovych. If Putin expressed the interests of the oligarchy, then there wouldn’t be a swamp. You can relate to Putin as you like, but at least, as an adult, look at things with an objective look.
      1. Normal
        Normal 6 December 2013 16: 04 New
        -3
        Quote: Russian
        That’s strange.

        Here is the hamlo.
        Quote: Russian
        Stand on your head and read the article again. Maybe you’ll understand a friend’s article.

        You need to get upside down and re-read my comment. I have almost no hope that I will understand anything.
        Quote: Russian
        The author does not at all assign the role of the second Putin to Yanukovych.

        The title of the article ..... read?
        Quote: Russian
        If Putin expressed the interests of the oligarchy, then there wouldn’t be a swamp

        Yes, ah .... And you, my friend, are not from simple, but from rare, I would say, collectible .... copies.
        So, were the oligarchs going to the swamp?
        And tell us, oh fount of wisdom, whose interests Putin expresses, observes and defends
    3. Victor-M
      Victor-M 6 December 2013 09: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: Normal
      As for the comparison of Yanukovych with Putin .... Something is in it. Both express the interests of a friendly oligarchy. Both of them are not from the capital. Both that and another interests of the population of the country to the bulb; the main profit is from the enterprises seized by friends.

      Well, you’re directly a model of decency, only now you yourself think a lot about people in everyday life, when shopping, standing somewhere in line, driving a car, if any? Probably you let everyone go ahead, pick up the rubbish you left after the picnic and remind other vacationers of this? Or is it still not?
      1. Normal
        Normal 6 December 2013 21: 43 New
        -1
        Quote: Victor-M
        Well, you’re directly a model of decency,

        Yes, I am like this. yes
        Quote: Victor-M
        only now you yourself think a lot about the people

        I will stand at the window at night.
        And stand all night without sleep
        And all the thoughts about Russia
        How is she poor?

        In the morning I smear a sandwich
        Immediately thought, but as a people?
        And caviar doesn’t go down my throat
        And brandy does not pour in your mouth
        Quote: Victor-M
        pick up the rubbish you left after a picnic and remind other vacationers about it? Or is it still not?

        Quote: complete zero
        Maybe it’s worthwhile to work (so as not to give a chance to gastrobeiters?) not to get drunk in the gateways and throw cigarette butts past the ballot boxes?

        So you guessed both
        Normal RU October 4, 2013 08:51 | Analytical program of Mikhail Leontiev "However" October 01, 2013
        Well, this is not at the address ..... I do not sit out with my opinion at home - I am not a theorist. Even when I’m standing in a traffic jam, I’m not lazy to get out of the car, pick up the goby from the asphalt and throw it into the window of the car from which it was thrown.
        ..... Owners of bulls are very "surprised" laughing
    4. nycsson
      nycsson 6 December 2013 09: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Normal
      Both express the interests of a friendly oligarchy. Both of them are not from the capital. Both that and another interests of the population of the country to the bulb; the main profit is from enterprises seized by friends.

      Golden words! hi
      Quote: Normal
      The difference is that "Ukrainian Putin" will leave, will not go anywhere. But ours is unlikely

      Wait and see!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 10: 16 New
        +8
        Quote: nycsson
        Wait and see!

        Putin's regime comes to an end! This is how each of his interviews with Harry Caspar begins over the past 13 years. laughing
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 6 December 2013 10: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is how each of his interviews with Harry Caspar begins over the last 13 years.

          Kasparov is not credibility for me. As for the 13 of recent years, your GDP also says a lot, but things are still there. More truly, the situation is only getting worse every year.
          And further. Romanov! You're not taking me for that. hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 11: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            And further. Romanov! You're not taking me for that.

            Niksson, I do not know you for the first day, so wink
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 6 December 2013 16: 15 New
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Niksson, I do not know you for the first day, so

              You know better.....
              Quote: xan
              Ie when EBNe was better than now?

              I didn’t say that. Although, if you take the economy as a whole, the army, then of course it was better. Take an interest in what and how much Russia produced then and now.
              Quote: xan
              Are you an alternative, or from a psychiatric hospital?

              Romanov and I are talking to us. We "know" each other for a long time. They argued more than once, etc. But this is the first time I come across YOU. So let's go to YOU ​​and no rudeness. am
          2. xan
            xan 6 December 2013 15: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: nycsson
            As for the past 13 years, your GDP also says a lot, but things are still there. More truly, the situation is only getting worse every year.

            Ie when EBNe was better than now?
            Are you an alternative, or from a psychiatric hospital?
            1. 31231
              31231 6 December 2013 16: 32 New
              0
              Bgggg. No, well, maybe a specific person calling himself on the Internet the former American president was better.
              Then Khodorkovsky and Gaidar were better. Even Zyuganov will probably say that he lived better. How many people - so many opinions.
        2. largus886
          largus886 6 December 2013 12: 05 New
          +1
          Garik the chess player sees the game for 35 moves or years ahead! Ha ha ha
    5. Gecko
      Gecko 6 December 2013 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Normal
      The difference is that "Ukrainian Putin" will leave, will not go anywhere. But ours is unlikely


      Nothing lasts forever, calm down.
    6. Stanislas
      Stanislas 6 December 2013 13: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Normal
      As for the comparison of Yanukovych with Putin .... Something is in it.

      There is nothing in it. Yanyka is better to compare with EBN. For some reason, it seems to me that Yeltsin at the end of his reign realized that after his death no one would bring flowers to his grave, but the people would spit in his direction. And he really wanted someone to say a few kind words about him (no one knows for sure, but what if we can hear them after our death). For this, he took Putin out of the political non-existence as a successor who would let him die peacefully, but would not serve the interests of Russian oligarchs and their Western masters, but would serve for the good of Russia. Maybe this is just my fantasy, but I would like Yanyk to do so. Then there will be two Putin who can agree among themselves for the benefit of their peoples.
  • Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 6 December 2013 08: 04 New
    +2
    In order for troops to enter Ukraine, the Russian Federation does not have enough strength, bearing in mind those truncated quick reaction brigades? There is no way to mobilize, and is it possible under current conditions? So that appeals and desires are one thing, the realities are completely different.
    Special Forces will simply be isolated. We need a real force that has the will to win in Ukraine itself, otherwise nothing.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 6 December 2013 11: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      In order for troops to enter Ukraine, the Russian Federation does not have enough strength, bearing in mind those truncated quick reaction brigades?

      NATO will not precisely enter its ground forces, the worst is the Libyan option. The formation of the SUA (free Ukrainian army). And in this case, Russia does not make sense to introduce full brigades with heavy weapons, only special units are needed, which the Ukrainians themselves will provide with equipment.
  • Keeper
    Keeper 6 December 2013 08: 06 New
    +2
    If the Ukrainian authorities did not border back and forth, but clearly commanded: "We don't need such European porridge!" and on central television they clearly explained their position - why they decided not to sign the association - There would be no Maidans and riots, and there would be no need to write letters to Putin!
    And here - "do not moo, do not calve" - ​​what to want ?!
    Power is needed even with a "democratic choice"! Strong, indestructible and extremely concrete!
    ... "- They said to my mother, so to my mother" (c)
  • makarov
    makarov 6 December 2013 08: 18 New
    0
    ".. This will mean that Ukraine will have its own 'Ukrainian Putin'. We will not guess who they will become. But when he appears, the 'two Putin' will easily agree with the West on truly equal conditions for 'association' ..."

    And if two of their own "Putin" appear in Ukraine at once, then there may be trouble ... although V.S.V. claimed otherwise: - For three it was invented not in vain, for three it was invented not in vain ...
  • saved
    saved 6 December 2013 08: 26 New
    +2
    It was not Putin who needed to write the letter, but Lukashenko is better at getting the order in place.
  • os9165
    os9165 6 December 2013 08: 40 New
    15
    President Yanukovych has only a bad option. But Ukraine has two: bad and good.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 December 2013 11: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: os9165
      President Yanukovych has only a bad option.

      Pretty boy. good
  • fennekRUS
    fennekRUS 6 December 2013 08: 41 New
    +4
    Putin, not Putin, but Zhirinovsky they already have their own, it turns out, there is. All neighbors are muddy, oh muddy.
  • Ols76
    Ols76 6 December 2013 08: 48 New
    +1
    Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 6 December 2013 09: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Ols76
      Eastern Ukraine and Crimea with Russia forever!

      We need all of Ukraine, in its entirety!
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 6 December 2013 09: 34 New
        +8
        "We need peace! Preferably the whole ..." V. Margelov
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 10: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Onyx
        We need all of Ukraine, in its entirety!

        it’s an American who covered himself with the flag of the USSR.
      3. largus886
        largus886 6 December 2013 12: 09 New
        0
        YES to hell with us Zapadenskoe Bandera brothers, let them share Europe (Poland, Hungary, Romania).
  • pluginigor
    pluginigor 6 December 2013 08: 55 New
    +1
    All this I have already seen somewhere: Egypt, Syria, Libya. Now in Ukraine, the stage of the deepened Bolotnaya Square, then the stage of the Caucasus, the stage of Egypt and God forbid the stage of Syria.
  • major071
    major071 6 December 2013 08: 56 New
    +5
    Not, while Ukraine is far from its own Putin, while it turns out to grow only some kind of "humpty chatters", stagger from side to side and talk all sorts of nonsense, but there is no benefit. laughing Maybe a charismatic leader is growing up somewhere in the outback, but we don’t know this. hi
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 6 December 2013 08: 59 New
    +2
    Where to get the second Putin to Ukrainians? He is the only one and only here! Is it bad, is it good, but it is ours! Honest, demanding, gentle to thieving officials, but a patriot. There is no second such politician in the world! This was recognized even by our enemies. And where will they get this? Klitschko is a good guy! Our, Kazakhstan! But he is spoiled by money and fame! Plus, I got well in the brain. He has money in Germany. He will not pull the role of Putin, although he would like very much! He is brave, makes quick decisions. By nature, the person is positive. But not ours! Spoiled him!
    1. oaziss
      oaziss 6 December 2013 10: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: indifferent
      Honest, demanding, gentle to thieving officials,

      Don't you think that these are mutually exclusive epithets, how can an "honest and demanding" person be "soft to thieving officials"?
      Quote: indifferent
      Klitschko is a good guy! .... He has money in Germany. He will not pull the role of Putin, although he would like very much!

      Do you seriously think that Putin keeps his money in Sberbank of Russia? lol
    2. complete zero
      complete zero 6 December 2013 10: 56 New
      +3
      then it’s better than Blokhin (he got the Golden ball) and they didn’t hit him on the head)))
  • saag
    saag 6 December 2013 09: 11 New
    +6
    Quote: indifferent
    Klitschko is a good guy! Our, Kazakhstan! But he is spoiled by money and fame! Plus, I got well in the brain.

    You can’t put in power a man who has been beaten in the head for twenty years
  • smprofi
    smprofi 6 December 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    on the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine to protect the country from the "US Army and its NATO aggressors"

    Oh!
    In the near future, Russia and Greece plan to develop military and military-technical cooperation. The parties secured their intention by signing the corresponding intergovernmental agreement on December 2 in Athens, where Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu arrived on a working visit the day before.

    fully:
    http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1288044/

    1. spd2001
      spd2001 6 December 2013 14: 23 New
      +1
      But what about NATO? Since 1952 there. Although, NATO, as an alliance, has long been discredited. And against the background of the cancellation of the Warsaw Pact, it began to catch the eye.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 6 December 2013 09: 15 New
    0
    The article is good, but it’s already somehow tired of discussing the same thing, so we are waiting for the second Putin, Yanyk has a great chance to become a normal person, or to go down below the baseboard.
  • Christian
    Christian 6 December 2013 09: 16 New
    -3
    If Russian patriots were in power, they would certainly have entered! But Putin ...
    1. 31231
      31231 6 December 2013 14: 43 New
      +2
      Can you go to your wife "enter"?
      Masters like you only incite and provoke.
      Although, I can offer you my TOZ and go ahead, enter Ukraine.
  • alexxxxx
    alexxxxx 6 December 2013 09: 17 New
    -2
    Let’s introduce the troops, and NATO will send their troops. Kiev will be like Berlin in 1946 divided, and then ....
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 6 December 2013 09: 17 New
    +5
    If a civil war starts in Ukraine, I think it will be necessary to send troops. To the lands inhabited by Russians.

    There is a precedent - the war in Ossetia.

    But it’s better that there is no war !!!
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 6 December 2013 09: 28 New
    +3
    Why send troops? They are already there. In Sevastopol, for example, our fleet and marine brigade (or regiment) are based. And so that the United States does not send troops into the territory of Ukraine, Ukraine needs to conclude an agreement with Russia (following the example of Belarus). And then without introducing our troops, we can protect the inhabitants of Ukraine from NATO attacks with the full power of the Russian Armed Forces (including the Strategic Missile Forces). Is a weighty argument true?
  • Denga
    Denga 6 December 2013 09: 30 New
    0
    Yanukovych recently signed a law prohibiting people living abroad from running for president, I think this is one of a number of other reasons why people like Klitschko actively support riots. Either they will overthrow the current and very unpopular government, or some people will not participate in the presidential elections in 2015. It would be nice if they passed a law similar to the Russian one banning civil servants from having bank accounts and property abroad, although this is unlikely.
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 6 December 2013 09: 32 New
    +4
    If Ukrainians want peace, then it is urgently necessary to decide: either unconditionally lay down under Europe, or enter into all possible alliances with Russia, especially the military.
  • DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 6 December 2013 09: 42 New
    +9
    The entry of troops of the Russian Federation? O_o
    Ofonarely ?! But what would our guys die for someone again?
    They want order, let them bring it themselves!Nothing to kick forever at someone who would come, protect, feed and pat on the head. And then they will spit in our back ... they passed.
    Think nothing wrong, but we owe them nothingas they are to us (true they constantly forget about the first).
    1. oaziss
      oaziss 6 December 2013 11: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      Ofonarely ?! But what would our guys die for someone again?

      Apparently, those who wish this scenario are absolutely sure that their families will not be affected, and the soul does not hurt for strangers.
      1. complete zero
        complete zero 6 December 2013 11: 54 New
        +6
        (oasis) - yes, no, it's just that many members of the forum started playing the game "Tanks"
        1. oaziss
          oaziss 6 December 2013 13: 16 New
          +2
          It can be seen.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 6 December 2013 14: 43 New
        0
        Quote: oaziss
        Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
        Ofonarely ?! But what would our guys die for someone again?
        Apparently those who wish this scenario are absolutely sure that their families will not be affected,

        In our country, according to the law, only contractors are sent to hot spots, I often talked with people who, during the time of the second Chechen, wanted to go there under a contract, but few people were taken, there were much more people who wanted it than that. And such people know very well what they’re going to .
  • stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx 6 December 2013 10: 03 New
    +3
    Not to answer us with "input" to their "input", if Ukraine nevertheless joins the EU, our army has not frightened them for a long time. And we have a combat-ready one and a half units of the Black Sea Fleet, believe me. They will drown at once. We won't have time to snap back, sadly, but it is. Anyone who has / was related to the USSR Armed Forces and now the Russian Federation will understand me.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 6 December 2013 10: 59 New
      0
      I have no direct relationship, but I agree. Not yet able to RF Armed Forces with NATO butt. Over the course of 20 years, it has been plundered and reduced, and the first steps towards restoration are just being taken. So for now, our destiny is diplomacy.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 6 December 2013 12: 58 New
        +1
        So for now, our destiny is diplomacy.
        Strong diplomacy does not happen without a strong army. wink
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 6 December 2013 15: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: stas-21127
      We will not have time to snap back, regrettably, but it is so


      Not so simple.
      No one will kick a little dog if she’s on a leash at the muzzle negative
  • Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 6 December 2013 10: 30 New
    +1
    On the Maidan, 3-5 percent ideological, the rest for money and sausage methane. The city is crowded with buses with the unemployed, and this is unnerving.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 6 December 2013 11: 31 New
      -1
      On the Maidan, they don't like politicians and listen to their speeches. Basically, the Maidan is apolitical. People came out to show the gangster authorities how they got them, this is primary. The bandit power can only preserve itself by force. Lieutenant, don't be nervous. Cornet Obolensky will pour you some wine. "... the city is overcrowded with buses with unemployed ..." Berkutovites ".
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 12: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        . People came out to show the gangster authorities how she got them, this is primary.

        I hope Berkut will disperse all this trash of the Mayidan loafers, which instead of working the revolution in Ukraine stirs up.
        1. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel 6 December 2013 13: 22 New
          +2
          Alexander! You "stubbornly" fail to notice that not only students and "Bandera" members have risen in your understanding. Ukraine is rising against the bandits of the authorities and their minions-punishers. What warriors they are. what soldiers. Sadistic punishers. To protect the weak and the unarmed. veterans of Afghanistan and other hot spots arrive on the Maidan. And not just veterans, but combat special forces of the Airborne Forces, PV, Berkut veterans of the late 80s and early 90s, who fought against organized crime groups, and not those paid by the bandit authorities. Take a serious look at what's going on. That, the people are so stupid and do not see how Putin and Yanukovych are screwing each other up. Whose mill are the most "independent" mass media in Russia. You have no moral right to call the people of Ukraine trash, idlers, and maydanuty. But the whole world called the bandits in the form of a golden eagle sadists. Brutalists, beating up their own people at the behest of holding on to the impudence and power of power, with a rating and authority below the floor. You and your bandits in your Vladivostok will sort it out. They captured everything. Were last year. It is not the border guards and customs officers who are in command in the port, not the port authorities, but "brothers". Our cargo did not arouse their interest. We were lucky. Or don't you "see" this either?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 13: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            th. What warriors they are. what soldiers. Sadistic punishers

            Sadistic punishers are the UPA and the other trash that the SS respects in disguise in their uniforms. Tyagnibok, Natsik finished there on your maidan or not?
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            You have no moral right to call the people of Ukraine a lousy,

            This is SCRUMP !!!!
            1. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 6 December 2013 13: 50 New
              +4
              Such a seam and you have more than enough. Thanks for all your clarifications. I realized that you did not serve in the army and the concepts of officer HONOR, dignity and conscience are not clear to you. You live by the concepts. I have the honor. A discussion with you is like screaming in the ear of a deaf person and explaining to a blind person with your fingers.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 14: 19 New
                0
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                Such a seam and you have more than enough.

                We have, but not a lot, but she’s sitting in parliament with you.
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                I realized that you did not serve in the army

                Yes you are right, I did not serve in the army, I served in the Navy wink
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                the concepts of officer HONOR, dignity and conscience are not clear to you.

                Is it known to you Honor and conscience? So that you lied tutt on the site when you wrote about the columns of armored vehicles And?
                Quote: Captain Vrungel
                I have the honor

                you don’t have honor, but a lie and an attempt to justify yourself when you are caught on it. You are a LIAR!
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 December 2013 13: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            But the bandits in the shape of a golden eagle, the whole world called sadists.

            Yeah, the EU and the US for you the whole world.
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            It is not the border guards and customs officers who are in command in the port, not the port authorities, but the "brothers". Our cargo did not arouse their interest. We were lucky. Or don't you "see" this either?

            In the port of lads wassat There the lads already stopped appearing in 2000. Especially at the terminal, where special cargoes are constantly loaded from Moscow Region. Lucky for you, they have long forgotten what a roof is wassat
            1. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 6 December 2013 15: 36 New
              0
              Yes, calm down, Alexander, calm down. Here I got up. He does not like the truth. Engage in a discussion with you? I guarantee, never with you. Not interesting.
          3. 31231
            31231 6 December 2013 14: 48 New
            +1
            And what Ukraine is not able to rise in the elections ?! Be sure to maidan ?!
            Peacefully then you can’t solve the problem ?!
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 6 December 2013 12: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Poruchik 90
      On the Maidan, 3-5 percent ideological, the rest for money and sausage methane. The city is crowded with buses with the unemployed, and this is unnerving.

      God forbid, on our own to stop the Lyakhovsky litter in Little Russia.
    3. smprofi
      smprofi 6 December 2013 14: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Poruchik 90
      the rest for money and sausage throwing.

      Yes! of course! I met on the forums this position:
      - if I went, then at this rally everything is exclusively for the idea
      - if I didn’t go, then everything there is exclusively bought
      So, when answering the question “Why are you on the Maidan now, and what are you protesting against?”,
      55,9% of respondents said they support the resignation of the President and the government,
      27,9% - for signing an Association Agreement with the EU,
      18% - for the right to a decent life in a normal country,
      11,7% - to protect their children (against violent actions).


      Next come is
      my civic duty (8,1%),
      for the future of our children (4,5%)
      and support the opposition (0,9%).
      Difficult to answer 0,9% of respondents.

      © UNIAN with reference to Gorshenin.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 6 December 2013 10: 38 New
    -4
    [i] "Deputy of the Sevastopol City Council from the faction of the Party of Regions of Ukraine Serhiy Smolyaninov [! / i] -th ohuel ....... hi
  • LaPoT
    LaPoT 6 December 2013 11: 06 New
    +5
    plan to overthrow the legitimately elected president of Ukraine. ”
    This is about the prezik of Ukraine with the persecutor of HAM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS2kHFJ6HjQ but please note that this clan was born in such a lovely east of Ukraine, Danbas parazhnyak does not drive
    make it difficult to see yourself to the end, this is the power that the citizens of Ukraine who do not degrade want to overthrow. Regarding GDP, I agree to 100% Ukraine needs such a strong leader!
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 6 December 2013 11: 11 New
    0
    Of course, in order to see how the European liberals will convulse hysterically, you can bring a couple of tanks to the border, but no more, all these alien interventions in internal problems have never led to anything good, of course you need to pull the blanket over yourself, but not in the open because the side that will be the first to show military aggression is half considered to have signed its own impotence, so let NATO be the first to enter, and then we.
  • veteran56
    veteran56 6 December 2013 11: 18 New
    +3
    The introduction of troops into a sovereign state, although Slavic, is nonsense! Issues related to the political situation in Ukraine need to be decided on the basis of realities, and the realities are very disappointing. In order to distract the West from Ukraine, it is necessary to provoke political instability in one of the countries of Europe.
    And such countries can be Greece, the problems associated with Kosovo, the riots of immigrants from Africa in England, in France, the increasing migration from North Africa to Italy, etc., especially since the popularity of national democrats in Germany is growing. .Exporting "color" revolutions can be a boomerang for them. Unfortunately, our special services do not know how to use such provocations. But in vain! Why not reciprocate with them? For some reason they do not disdain anything. And we answer them at the level of diplomats. Now emissaries from the West have flocked to Ukraine, like flies in the city ..., they will declare Yanukovych a criminal and then a well-known scenario. Then the situation may get out of control , and again we will be left at the trough, and diplomacy will be powerless! These are the pies!
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 6 December 2013 11: 36 New
    0
    This will mean that Ukraine will have its own “Ukrainian Putin”.

    So far, nothing has hinted at this ... but it is true that in 1999, too, nothing was hinted at by Putin.
    BUT!
    Putin is also a kind of half measure. Although the two evils choose the lesser.
  • Narrator.tales
    Narrator.tales 6 December 2013 11: 36 New
    0
    As soon as the citizens of the Russian Federation in Ukraine begin to die, they will have to send in troops, as it was in South Ossetia, plus if the Ukrainians themselves begin to die. The main thing here is to occupy the Crimea and all.
  • tomas.09
    tomas.09 6 December 2013 11: 40 New
    +4
    Tired of these graters about Ukraine. Let them go anywhere, with anyone. In general, let them do what they want. Only so that later they would not crawl back and scream how poor they are, etc., etc. Who will yell the Ukrainian authorities or the people do not care. Let them live independently and do not ask for anything.
  • Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 6 December 2013 12: 03 New
    0
    In Ukraine, the situation now is similar to the situation in Russia between the last Duma and presidential elections. The Orange, led by the fifth column, organized a sabbath on Bolotnaya Square, and then on Sakharov Ave. and power in Russia staggered. The reason for those events was the rigging of the parliamentary elections, although fair elections were not needed on either side. In Ukraine, the same situation is now and the reason for the Sabbath was a possible association of Ukraine with the EU. Unlike Ukraine, in Russia at that time there were sound patriotic forces and patriotic leaders. Having gathered a 140-strong rally on Poklonnaya Hill, they stopped the bacchanalia and saved Russia. Unfortunately in Ukraine there is not enough healthy patriotic forces, and most importantly there is no worthy authoritative leader. In this situation, Ukraine will face difficult times, and possibly disintegration. Solovyov’s broadcast yesterday showed vividly in the discussion between Krasheninnikova and Khakamada on whose side the people are.
    1. xan
      xan 6 December 2013 15: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir65
      The Orange, led by the fifth column, organized a sabbath on Bolotnaya Square, and then on Sakharov Ave. and power in Russia staggered.

      What kind of power, if it staggers from such garbage.
      Do not wishful thinking.
      In France, half a million against LGBT people came out, and nothing staggered there.
      1. Vladimir65
        Vladimir65 6 December 2013 21: 16 New
        0
        And why did power in 1991 stagger and collapse?
  • zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 6 December 2013 12: 22 New
    +5
    The deputy really fucked up ...
    What kind of bastard do you have to call other troops into your own country?
    And these mongrels asking NATO? Is that patriots? No, it's scum ... and half of them do not even live in Ukraine.
    Any deployment of troops that are Russian, that of NATO, will only lead to civil war, devastation, famine ...
    Moreover, for Russia this option is not acceptable at all, since it is immediately accused by all world media of aggression. But is it necessary? Not. To nobody.
    The only way is an internal coup, when the police and the army will be with the people.
    And Yanyk has already exhausted his limit. Completely. I am silent for the oppa. They did not score a limit. Zero they are without sticks.
    1. xan
      xan 6 December 2013 15: 37 New
      -3
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      What kind of bastard do you have to call other troops into your own country?

      This is strangers to you, Ukrainian. This land is not Ukrainian, so there is no need for unnecessary patriotic pathos. Protect your land, only who needs your land?
      In Crimea, the Ukrainian occupier
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 6 December 2013 15: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: xan
        This land is not Ukrainian

        By what criteria do you determine Russian whose land?
        Quote: xan
        In Crimea, the Ukrainian occupier

        and Russian in Chechnya
  • tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 6 December 2013 12: 28 New
    0
    the government will be able to “equidistant” its oligarchs from power, as V. Putin did in Russia in the “zero years”.

    to remove the relative concept, and only the socialist (-communist) system can remove oligarchs from power. In which the entire key economy of the country is in state ownership or under strong control, and in the private hands of medium and small businesses. Thus, there is simply no large private business that inevitably seeks power.
    Therefore, with regard to the influence of big business on power, Ukraine and Russia are absolutely identical. The only difference is that the business of the Russian Federation is protected by its state and army, while Ukraine has neither one nor the other and they need to climb under whose wing. Under whose wing - is understandable.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 6 December 2013 13: 04 New
    +1
    They have to figure it out themselves. If they want to decide who they live with, let them hold a referendum. And if the country is divided again, then the Ukrainians should already decide whether they can continue to live together or better apart and not torment each other, people will benefit from this and this is important.
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 6 December 2013 13: 42 New
    -1
    Neighbor Belarus.
    Purely stupid provocative statement "a la Zhirik". Long ago moved away from Chechnya? And who won is not clear. Chechens go to the State Dura with golden pistols and beat their faces. And the broken ones only wipe the snot, and thank "that they did not kill."
  • Djubal
    Djubal 6 December 2013 13: 51 New
    +1
    mmm ... Now I would hear from Yanyk "I'm tired, I'm leaving" and, by analogy, would introduce someone standing to the public :) Maybe a new tradition would appear :))) Are there efficient siloviki? :)
    1. Docent1984
      Docent1984 6 December 2013 16: 46 New
      0
      You can send them our Ivanov to earn money, as an anti-crisis manager, years on 5, and then the elections.
  • LaPoT
    LaPoT 6 December 2013 14: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Djubal
    mmm ... Now I would hear from Yanyk "I'm tired, I'm leaving" and, by analogy, would introduce someone standing to the public :) Maybe a new tradition would appear :))) Are there efficient siloviki? :)

    Yanek so simply will not leave, it’s not Kuchma who was responsible. This is a rat cornered and it is very dangerous + lackeys dug in the law enforcement agencies of Ukraine. Today, the commander of the special forces Bars in Kharkov floor resigned. Igor Salyutin there is hope that there are still honest officers who do not want the blood of their people! Believe me, this revolution is not against Russia, it is a revolution against a gang of scumbags who usurped power in Ukraine. the terrible thing is that everyone understands that without blood, the yanyk will not go away
  • makeev.dmitry
    makeev.dmitry 6 December 2013 14: 48 New
    +3
    Let's dream: in the West, many people already suck in the stomach from one Putin, and if there are several of them ... We had one more Person who was feared or respected by all his contemporaries, and he did not go anywhere, "he disappeared into the future ". I think these are individuals of the same scale. A quote from Hitler approximately: "... The Russian people must be destroyed for the ability to generate individuals of this magnitude ...".
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 6 December 2013 15: 59 New
    0
    In the summer, guests came from Ukraine, so I started a conversation with barbecue that they were waiting for unity with Russia? the answer stunned me, I expected the opposite, so they said: "nah you are needed with your Putin who plundered the country with his team and we do not need Yanuca because there are no real cases from him." do they see the West invests money in infrastructure in reality, they see more benefits from there than from us, they build road gardens, etc.
  • Viktor Shmagin
    Viktor Shmagin 6 December 2013 16: 01 New
    0
    Of course, the Poles benefit from this mess, suctioning with the EU, then by decree of Brussels. The watercresses are sprouting, will go to Poland, they can’t accept that they are part of Ukraine. And it will be according to Gogol ,, Well, that they gave you these Poles son ,. And such as the bull Vitalik will mek and bek, and what kind of brains can be after such a long boxing career
    1. uhjpysq1
      uhjpysq1 6 December 2013 18: 39 New
      -1
      not to the Poles, but to their masters, USA. they want to cut off Europe from our energy sources. They will drive their own oil shale to them. And they will overhaul Poland.
  • archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 6 December 2013 17: 32 New
    +2
    Yes, you're right, I did not serve in the army, I served in the Navy (Alexander Romanov)
    Well, yours, spruce !!!! :-) :-) :-) laughing
  • Lexsir
    Lexsir 6 December 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    Not “two Putin”, but one “Stalin” - this is Victory.
    By the seventeenth year should appear.
  • Const
    Const 6 December 2013 19: 53 New
    0
    Quote: FC Skif
    It is advisable without the introduction of troops, otherwise this can lead to blood and moral defeat of Russia. Power actions only in response to actions, and a petition in response to a petition.

    It was the entry and the troops. I don't think there will be serious resistance before arriving at the site. At this time, there will be serious consultations with "patriotic" organizations, and then young people will appear with simply terrible discontent with the Russian invasion, and so on. etc.
  • homosum20
    homosum20 6 December 2013 20: 01 New
    +1
    Yanukovych himself provokes his own overthrow, allowing directly and cynically to break the orange laws. After all, even a reason to look is not necessary. Laws violate everything. The crowd on the roadway is a violation of the rights of motorists. Crowd on the sidewalk - violation of pedestrian rights. Noise and fires at night - a violation of the rights of citizens to rest.
    For some reason, they always think about the rights of the opposition. But most live a completely different life. And the president must protect the rights of the majority. If the violators do not understand the words - by force. For this, power organs are created. There is no self-confidence - invite strangers. We will help.
  • tomich
    tomich 6 December 2013 20: 20 New
    +1
    Let's dream: in the West, many people already suck in the stomach from one Putin, and if there are several of them ... We had one more Person who was feared or respected by all his contemporaries, and he did not go anywhere, "he disappeared into the future ". I think these are individuals of the same scale.

    Stalin and Putin can only compare id ... t
  • tomich
    tomich 6 December 2013 20: 34 New
    0
    In 2005, under the guise of allegedly "clarifying" the Russian-Chinese border, Putin quietly sold to China three primordially Russian islands, two under Khabarovsk on the Amur River - the islands "Tapabarov" and "Bolshoy Ussuriysky", as well as the third island "Bolshoy" in the Abagatui region on the Argun river in the Chita region! Total for a total of 367 sq. km. Russian land! President Putin, the Government, the Foreign Ministry, the State Duma (309 deputies) and the Federation Council (157 senators) committed a serious criminal offense - the illegal transfer of Russian territories to another state. This crime, according to the current law, falls under article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - "high treason to the Motherland."
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