Especially for Ukraine. It is better to see once ... How Bulgaria dies in the arms of Eurosodom

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Especially for Ukraine. It is better to see once ... How Bulgaria dies in the arms of Eurosodom

Do you want to know how you will live in the EU? Go to Bulgaria. Just not to rest, to walk along the promenade from the restaurant to the restaurant. This mask is a facade. Go a little, for several tens of kilometers, inland. You will see the ruins of factories, you will see the poverty that prevails around. You will see the economy crushed by the European Union, you will see people who are trying in vain to find a job.

How Bulgaria dies in the embrace of the EU. What you will not see is the happy young people, as some of them left temporarily to work, while others left for good. It seems to be freedom of speech, and it is possible to scold the government, but not much - in order to avoid problems at work. And if you still, God forbid, use the words Russia, Putin - note the time: in a week you will receive a “wolf ticket” to nowhere. Immediately branded a spy, an accomplice, accused of all mortal sins. It seems to be open borders - you can go to rest in Western Europe, but only who will go? Unemployment at 18%, which the authorities cheerfully report to, is a blatant lie! In reality, two times more! At least every fourth able-bodied person cannot find a job. Who can - leaves, the good of the border is open. But who are they there? Maybe managers, technologists, engineers? .. No, they are laborers, dishwashers. Migrant workers! This is what the European Union gave us - the opportunity to leave without a visa in order to engage in unskilled labor.

European Bulgaria

Yes, we entered the European Union, only the European Union did not enter us. We still have the same corrupt government, the same corrupt officials, multiplied by strict standards, rules, methods of the European Union. We were destroyed, crushed by the European Union. Yes, they give us some kind of tranche for development, but no one knows where this money goes. Everything settles in the pockets of officials, and even if it reaches somewhere, it is only under “its” and “its” projects.

The mediocre government gained loans from the IMF, which began to dictate its new economic policy. Tough conditions were imposed, which ultimately destroyed the country's economy.

All industry was methodically destroyed, for nothing, everything that was possible was privatized and cut into scrap metal. Fully destroyed agriculture. Destroyed system of higher education. Many universities have been born, which give out higher education diplomas for bribes. All that we can offer for export is cheap unskilled labor.

In Bulgaria, the population from 9 million decreased to 7. Young couples stopped having children. Who can - leaves. There is a gap of generations. A huge number of people working in the West. Children raise grandparents. Children do not see their parents. This is the price that Bulgaria paid for the EU. We wanted a different life, but not like that. We were cruelly deceived. We were drawn into this EU without asking people. We are watered with Western propaganda. We hoped that by joining the EU, we would live better.

Not! Life has become unbearable!

What did an ordinary person get? Joining the EU was beneficial to a handful of oligarchs who earned from squandering the national economy. Very few people live well in Bulgaria. Most barely make ends meet. 36-year-old photographer, mountaineer and revolutionary with the romantic name Plamen, when things went really tight in mild Bulgaria, made a public self-immolation on the square in front of the city hall of Varna. In protest against poverty, corruption, injustice and neglect of the authorities. If his country is dying - why then should he live?

This death was not the only one. Five more people flashed live torches at the end of a painful winter. Among them - the father of five children 53-year-old Ventsislav Vasilev, who lost his job (bailiffs had to describe family property on account of debt for communal - 219 euros for water) and unemployed Trayan Petrov (he was only 26 years old).

“This has never happened in the Bulgarian stories! - the legend of Bulgarian journalism Valery Naidenov exclaims with bitterness. - We are a Christian country, not familiar with radicalism and fundamentalism. Self-immolation of people - something unexpected and shocking. For Christians in general, political suicide is unacceptable. And we have no doubt that these suicides are political. If you want to kill yourself, there are lots of other, painless ways. During self-immolation, a person does not die immediately - these are two weeks of torture and agony. ”

What happened to Bulgaria - once fertile, prosperous land? What happened to the Bulgarians - the most patient and accommodating people of Europe?

REFRIGERATOR WINS TV

“In January we had a very tight time,” sighs my friend Svetla. - People received electricity bills that doubled their pensions. If the pensioner even stops eating, he still will not be able to pay the bill. ” When it came to the real threat of hunger and cold (many apartments are heated by electricity), tens of thousands of people across the country took to the streets. The "electric revolution" began. As one local politician put it wittily, “an empty refrigerator has finally won the TV.” It is impossible to feed people with speeches about “European democratic values”. Spring came and the TV seems to be winning again.

EXIT ONE - RUN FROM COUNTRY

Anger ahead of the awareness of the problem: people came out to protest not as citizens who have clear values, but as angry consumers. They waved, shouted and tired.

Bulgarians prefer to escape one by one. A joke is popular: "Bulgaria has two ways out of the crisis - the 1 terminal and the 2 terminal at the airport." Young, talented and stubborn people pack and run without looking back, leaving the elderly to die in the villages. The north of the country, where unemployment is (according to official data) 60% (!), Was depopulated. Rare tourists compare it with the Chernobyl zone. Over the past 20 years, 2 million people have left the country. The country has lost more people than in two world wars, but this is not the limit. The economic crisis coincided with a horrendous demographic catastrophe. By 2060, the population of Bulgaria will be only 5 million, of which 1,5 million are Roma. Bulgarians as a single people with the oldest Orthodox culture are doomed.

“Last year, all 62.000 children were born,” said TV reporter Ivo Hristov. - This is the lowest birth rate since 1945. Bulgaria is melting faster than all European countries. The result is worse only in Estonia. Throughout its 1300-year history, our country has never been so close to decay. ”

“WE HAVE BEEN USED TO WAIT WHEN SAVE US”

- Is now worse than under the Turks? - I'm surprised.

- Worse. Demographic and economic crises coincided with moral decay. Society is now much more deeply corrupted than during the time of the Turkish yoke, when the people united the idea of ​​the struggle for liberation. And what do you want from us? Bulgarians are a quiet people - in the eyes of the well-known publicist Svetoslav Terziev there are gleams of irony. “We had a Turkish yoke for five hundred years.” We are used to. Then came Russia and freed us. Later we sang with the Germans, but they turned out to be bad allies. The Red Army freed us from them. Together with it came the USSR, which in 90-e years, freed us from ourselves. What is our future? Why think about him? They survived the day until the evening, and it is not bad. Bulgarians are accustomed to sit and wait for them to be rescued.

HOW THEY REACHED TO LIFE SUCH

At the beginning of 90, when the empire of the USSR collapsed and the Eastern European bloc fell into pieces, CAPITAL observed the process intently and triumphantly with cold, greedy eyes. Before the monopolies opened new exciting prospects. First, the financial crisis has been postponed for as many as twenty years. Secondly, the collapse of the Iron Curtain opened the way to world domination of the oligarchy under the sauce of “globalization” and “market freedom” (the so-called “Washington consensus” 1989 of the year).

The owners of transnational corporations rubbed their hands with pleasure and anticipation - in front of them lay huge, defenseless territories with naive, duped by slogans about freedom by the population. The plan of the oligarchy was as simple as the plan of some conqueror like Attila: the territory was to be captured, subdued, humiliated, ruined, sucked out of them all the juices, and the population turned into eternal slavery. Yes, the plan was simple, but the methods are much more sophisticated. At that time we were so busy with our own tragedy - the collapse of the Soviet Union, that we were not very concerned about the fate of Eastern European countries. Yes, there was Poland, which took the collapse of the USSR with glee — as deliverance from the hated Russian domination. But there were also countries such as fraternal Bulgaria, which existed at the expense of the deal of the century: oil in exchange for tomatoes - and suddenly lost its guide and breadwinner.

Oh, WILD, NEW WORLD!

At the beginning of the 90s, American economic advisers and consultants arrived in batches in the CIS, Eastern Europe and Russia. They were well-mannered and dressed-up, energetic people of mature years, all in their views are one and all - convinced right-wing libertarians. (Libertarianism in economics is one of the most inhuman theories that completely negates the welfare state, as well as any state intervention in the economy. In essence, this is economic Darwinism: let the strong survive in free competition and the weak disappear.

The state should refuse to finance healthcare and education, and at the same time taxation, and pension funds should only become private. If you yourself have not postponed for old age, then blame yourself. And if you are poor and sick - cry at the door of charitable foundations. Your children are only your problem, do not fool the head of the state.)

In the decent countries of Western Europe with a strong social policy, libertarians at that time and close did not allow government control (they would have been trampled by militant trade unions), and in the ex-socialist land of frightened idiots they were honored. They were not just applauded and looked into their mouths - they were also paid for consultations. Local politicians stood in front of them on their hind legs, spellbound with phrases about “market reforms”.

ORE - BELGIANS, WATER - FRENCH

“Under Tsar Simeon II, the electricity distribution networks were sold to Czechs, Austrians and Germans, the French got water and sewage, and copper ore was rumored to go to the Belgians,” says Angel Dzhambazka, one of the nationalist leaders. - These were the secret conditions for Bulgaria’s accession to the EU. All the old powers were bargaining to sell their consent at a higher price. Thanks to the treachery at the very top, Bulgaria was kicked off. ”

“From the beginning of 2000, Bulgaria lived as a cheerful widow after the death of a rich husband,” says journalist Valery Naidenov. - She sells houses, land, all the property of her spouse and for five years she lives much better than before. And then the stupid woman remains on the beans and asks for alms on the porch. Before 2005, Bulgaria showed excellent GDP growth (any purchase and sale transactions were taken into account). That is, we sold off national assets, and in GDP this was reflected as our income. Everyone was happy: oh, what a foreign investment! The authorities destroyed the national economic science and dispersed serious institutions. And all the studies commissioned by the government for taxpayers' money are conducted by pro-Western NGOs. ”

By 2013, Bulgaria lost 60% of jobs, became deserted and became a colony under the political control of the EU. The world's best tomato republic has even stopped producing tomatoes!

FUNERAL OF BULGARIAN PEPPER

The recipe for the famous shop salad now includes Turkish (or Jordanian) “plastic” tomatoes, “Bulgarian peppers” from Holland and Macedonia, onions from China, and French brynza. In the local market there are no more Bulgarian tomatoes, but Dutch dam. 80% of all fruits and vegetables - imported. Having buried the Bulgarian pepper with a tomato, the EU encroached on the holy raki (production of alcohol in the private sector), but then subsided. It was clear that even timid Bulgarians would not demolish such abuse of feelings. Raki (salvation for the soul!) Is being driven in home cubes - cauldrons - all over Bulgaria. “A village without a cauldron is like a village without a church,” proverb says.

NEIGHBORS

“According to opinion polls, 70% of the Bulgarian population are Russophiles, but at the same time Russia lost the political and media battle in Bulgaria. Paradox! - exclaims journalist Ivo Hristov. - Why has Russia ceded to the West? The dominant ideas in the media are throwing in so-called local think tanks (“brain trusts”, “thought factories”), which are funded by American (less often European) funds.

All these institutions self-quote each other and necessarily have something “democratic” in their name — the Foundation for the Study of Democracy or the Institute for Liberal Strategies. They never advertise their pro-American orientation. ” People in captivity Russophobic hysteria. All arithmetic was erased from the board and written in large letters

"Energy dependence on Russia." This is such a European horror story for children. And the new Bulgarian pro-Western elite parasitizes on irrational fears. What is today's Bulgaria? This is a sacrificial pawn on a chessboard. Her role is to be a blocking pawn for all Russian projects. We serve the interests of others, spoil relations with Russia and lose money for the transit of oil and gas. And American friends clap the Bulgarians on the shoulder and say: “Well done, guys! You have a democracy! ”One Bulgarian satirist very precisely defined what democracy is:“ This is not the power of the people — this is the power of the democrats. ”
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  1. vladsolo56
    +96
    6 December 2013 07: 35
    Yes, this is not an example for the "smartest" "Ukrainians" because there are always those who stumbled or blind or rotozei. You will listen to them like that without them Europe is simply suffocating without Ukraine, it is simply impatient for Europe to help Ukraine raise its economy. After all, Ukraine is not Bulgaria, and not the Baltics, or Poland, it is a chosen people without which Europe is not Europe.
    1. alex popov
      +76
      6 December 2013 08: 44
      Here is the same story-loss in the information war ... "Putin is bad", "Putin wants" the USSR, "imperial ambitions", "Ukraine without Putin" (that's insanity, isn't it?) And so on. From the outside it is funny, but local Bendera frankly believe in it. I understand that some people do not like it at the genetic level, they are the descendants of the OUN underdogs. But what's going on with the rest ??? Russia has not been with them for 22 years. Well, long ago, if only they could, they would have achieved everything ...
      Honestly, you are amazed. Neither 2004, nor an example of the closest neighbors, is a lesson for the especially stubborn ...
      1. 755962
        +8
        6 December 2013 08: 59
        Ukraine’s reserves are at dangerously low levels, lagging behind almost all developing countries

        According to data published by Bank of America Merrill Lynch on Wednesday, based on monthly import requirements and suitable debt maturities, Ukraine’s reserves do not look good compared to almost all other developing economies.


        http://mixednews.ru/archives/45012
        1. +30
          6 December 2013 09: 58
          Quote: 755962
          Ukraine’s reserves are at dangerously low levels, lagging behind almost all developing countries


          in general, Ukraine is not a "developing country", but rather a "degrading" one, played in Ukraine with farm patriotism
          1. +24
            6 December 2013 14: 43
            Quote: seller trucks
            in general, Ukraine is not a "developing country", but rather a "degrading" one, played in Ukraine with farm patriotism

            This is exactly, I immediately recall:
            This one is a strong business executive.
            Two Ukrainians - a partisan detachment.
            Three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor ............
          2. 755962
            +1
            6 December 2013 16: 31
            Quote: seller trucks
            in general, Ukraine is not a "developing country"

            Actually, I quoted from an article wink
          3. +2
            7 December 2013 16: 04
            They will enter into a gay robe and there will be no farms left.
        2. +33
          6 December 2013 11: 14
          hi
          It was a year ago in Bulgaria - everything is as it is, as written in the article ...
          1. rolik
            +5
            6 December 2013 11: 23
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            It was a year ago in Bulgaria - everything is as it is, as written in the article ...

            In addition to pepper in Shopsky salad, pepper there, all the same, is Bulgarian.
          2. +17
            6 December 2013 12: 39
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            It was a year ago in Bulgaria - everything is so,

            And also in Slovenia, Slovakia, Romania, Hungary, almost the same in the Czech Republic and further on the list.
            The picture does not apply to people. Neither to Russians, nor to Ukrainians, nor to others. Well, you understand ...
          3. AVV
            +20
            6 December 2013 13: 16
            And this is not an argument for Ukraine ??? in order to survive and increase what you have earned, turn on your brains !!! For the West, you need more faceless, serving, unpretentious bio mass, consuming them, for the time being cheap products !!! But when the industry is independent it will collapse completely, European manufacturers will begin to raise the price of their goods and set their conditions !!! Then independence will come to an end !!! A paradise will come like Bulgarian or Estonian !!! For Estonians this is permissible, they are still genetically frostbitten, and Ukraine is all the same, the southern outskirts of the former USSR !!! I even admit that many Bendery offspring in the west of Ukraine have genetically filled brain vessels with fat from cholesterol !!! But why do the Southeastern regions of Ukraine, the Color of Science and the pride of industry, so passively observe this integrator of Euro-integrators or they don’t care where the track leads !!! ???
            1. retvizan
              +3
              6 December 2013 21: 56
              to many, even to the majority, it does matter, of course. but the current government has so discredited itself with its lawlessness and impunity in everything that no one wants to intervene for them
            2. +3
              8 December 2013 20: 16
              Because people from the Southeastern regions do not want to be like Maidan rabble with its Bandera slogans. Therefore, they quiet down, because they know one thing for sure: Russia will not leave them in trouble
              1. bwo
                bwo
                0
                12 December 2013 21: 36
                An interesting thesis. "Bendara" can and go out to the square with their own demands.
                Believe me, in many ways fair. But those who brought the twice-not convicted ZK to power are quiet. In other words, bz ... t. To a normal person who should be nicer?
          4. 0
            12 December 2013 12: 23
            How would our banderlogs from the Maidan be sent there, forcibly ???
      2. +21
        6 December 2013 13: 30
        I agree in the absolute! Unfortunately, the orange Maidan of Ukrainians did not teach anything ... Then in one of the tents (orange naturally) they interviewed one young guy, aged 18-20, I was struck by his stupid conviction - WE WILL NOW BEAT AND WE WILL EVERYTHING WILL BE IMMEDIATELY !!! And suddenly! And today's talks with young animals are not any better - THEY ARE GOING TO WIN AND FREE TO TRAVEL THROUGH EUROPE !!! And no one exactly read the association agreement with Europop - there is not a word about visa abolition there !!! Since 2004 insanity only grows stronger ... alas.
        1. +4
          6 December 2013 20: 40
          Quote: wulf66
          I agree in the absolute! Unfortunately, the orange Maidan of Ukrainians did not teach anything ... Then in one of the tents (orange naturally) they interviewed one young guy, aged 18-20, I was struck by his stupid conviction - WE WILL NOW BEAT AND WE WILL EVERYTHING WILL BE IMMEDIATELY !!! And suddenly! And today's talks with young animals are not any better - THEY ARE GOING TO WIN AND FREE TO TRAVEL THROUGH EUROPE !!! And no one exactly read the association agreement with Europop - there is not a word about visa abolition there !!! Since 2004 insanity only grows stronger ... alas.


          And what do you want, the virgin untouched brain of modern youth, brought up in the spirit of the motto "we live only once."
          1. +2
            8 December 2013 20: 18
            But once they were the forge of the Union. They built carrier cruisers and tanks, produced magnificent helicopter engines.
      3. +10
        6 December 2013 13: 57
        Quote: alex popov
        Here is the same losing story in the information war


        why lose? the war did not end ....

        the critical mass is accumulating - soon everything will return to square one.

        Quote: alex popov
        for especially stubborn


        and in fact there are not so many of them - they are simply organized ...

        and as far as Ukraine is concerned, ordinary people see and feel that the authorities live by their selfish impulses without thinking about the welfare of the people — hence the discontent.

        this can be attributed not only to Ukraine, for example, it’s difficult for me to name at least one statesman (including in Russia), about whom one could say with 100% certainty that he would take care of the prosperity of his people.

        The Slavs are accustomed to think with their hearts - they feel hypocrites even with TV, you can’t hide a lie from them ....
        1. 0
          12 December 2013 12: 27
          God forbid, it’s a pity that our power is castrated and corrupt
      4. The comment was deleted.
      5. -6
        6 December 2013 16: 20
        Quote: alex popov
        Here is the same story-loss in the information war ... "Putin is bad", "Putin wants" the USSR, "imperial ambitions", "Ukraine without Putin" (that's insanity, isn't it?) And so on. From the outside it is funny, but local Bendera frankly believe in it. I understand that some people do not like it at the genetic level, they are the descendants of the OUN underdogs. But what's going on with the rest ??? Russia has not been with them for 22 years. Well, long ago, if only they could, they would have achieved everything ...
        Honestly, you are amazed. Neither 2004, nor an example of the closest neighbors, is a lesson for the especially stubborn ...

        Until they have a normal politician (which, according to the outskirts mentality is not possible), there will be no state.
        They have complete slavery or prostitution in their blood.
        Freedom is only in the blood of the Russians. (large territory, the owner did not like it - goodbye).
        On the outskirts there were four options - slaves to the Psheks, Turks, their goat army, or the slaves of Russia.
        Most chose Russia.
        Now the choice has not changed.
        Which choice
        1. +2
          8 December 2013 20: 23
          And here you are wrong. Ukrainian people are simply fooled by geyropeyskoy propaganda and some agree to any ending - if only this horror would end. But they don’t have slavery in blood, honest working Ukrainian people are ready to fight to the end for real freedom. That's only the descendants of the unfinished Bandera sticks are inserted into the wheels
          1. -2
            12 December 2013 15: 17
            Quote: Basarev
            And here you are wrong. Ukrainian people are simply fooled by geyropeyskoy propaganda and some agree to any ending - if only this horror would end. But they don’t have slavery in blood, honest working Ukrainian people are ready to fight to the end for real freedom. That's only the descendants of the unfinished Bandera sticks are inserted into the wheels

            There is no such thing as an "honest working Ukrainian people". There is either Russian or a cross.
            A sovereign state cannot be called the Outskirts, even on the Pshekskaya mov. A sovereign state cannot have a borrowed coat of arms and a flag and anthem.
            And Kievan Rus was not invented by Russians. There was Novgorod (Ladoga) Russia. And Kiev is just a trading city, which then surrendered its position to Moscow merchant
            But in the introduction of the Jewish faith, Kiev played a big role.
        2. +2
          9 December 2013 09: 09
          Quote: Vasya
          They have complete slavery or prostitution in their blood.

          Vasya, Vasya ... Similar statements marked another local fascist with a pirate nickname Edward Tich.
          "Goat army" you obviously call the Cossacks, free Russian people who fought with arms in hand for their freedom, thus protecting your ancestors from the Poles and the Basurman, and pushed the borders of Russia to the Far East.
          If a bowsprit (according to legend, a pirate ends his life) hang two of your microcephalic heads, then they will look like empty, not leaving offspring Hitler's eggs.
          1. -2
            12 December 2013 15: 25
            Quote: Stanislav
            Quote: Vasya
            They have complete slavery or prostitution in their blood.

            Vasya, Vasya ... Similar statements marked another local fascist with a pirate nickname Edward Tich.
            "Goat army" you obviously call the Cossacks, free Russian people who fought with arms in hand for their freedom, thus protecting your ancestors from the Poles and the Basurman, and pushed the borders of Russia to the Far East.
            If a bowsprit (according to legend, a pirate ends his life) hang two of your microcephalic heads, then they will look like empty, not leaving offspring Hitler's eggs.

            Excuse me, but I cannot call the Cossacks, at least the Zaporozhian ones, "free Russian people."
            Because it is known that they were sold to everyone who pays the most. And not only Russians were accepted into the Cossacks, but also Turks and Africans.
            How many Cossacks raids in Russia did? Whom did they support during the Time of Troubles?
            Su..i, they are s..and corrupt.
            While Moscow fed them - they are Orthodox. Stopped - ready for Catholicism, or circumcision do
      6. +1
        6 December 2013 16: 37
        Explain to me that if there are more than half of the statistics for European integration in Ukraine, then do they really think that if they sign this association, they will heal right away ... Or how?
      7. 0
        8 December 2013 20: 12
        In general, this is all very significant. The betrayal of the people by the government has never led to good
      8. lapo32
        0
        11 December 2013 10: 56
        The funniest thing is that the guides of these ideas do not understand - once you lie, you can’t stop, they’ll endure frost frosts, and the same thing still exists
    2. +41
      6 December 2013 09: 36
      Quote: vladsolo56
      After all, Ukraine is not Bulgaria, nor the Baltic States, nor Poland, it is a chosen people without which Europe is not Europe.

      Yes, this Ukraine needs Europe, like a dog’s fifth leg. And 45 million additional laborers are also not needed ... I'm not talking about industry and agriculture ...
      Europe is self-sufficient, it may well serve itself and still remain for Africa and others like them. And what color of the mug at the janitor is not particularly important.
      Ukraine needs the EU as a factor in destabilizing the Russian economy. Just imagine how much money is needed for reorienting industry, for equipping new borders, for building replacement enterprises, etc. Russia's budget will simply not be able to withstand such costs at the same time. This means that funds for social programs will be reduced , for armament, for development. And Russia will swallow both European missile defense, and European troops on its borders, and American activity in the east ...
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 10: 18
        Quote: domokl
        .And 45 million additional laborers are also not needed ..

        And here I do not agree, I think the Europeans will be better if the tremors will be cleaned ho .. Ukrainians than the gypsies (though I did not notice them at such a job laughing ) or Muslims from Libya, Syria, Algeria, Morocco, etc.
      2. +8
        6 December 2013 10: 59
        All that you have listed is living water for the Russian economy. Orders, work, work, orders ... a dream. Reorientation of enterprises - new equipment, jobs, expansion of the range. What does the budget have to do with it? For such matters, you can take a loan, huge volumes, in the same Europe (you can’t get a loan from us, if we were already the second world economy for a long time) the loan will be given by food from happiness. For Russia, all this would be a huge plus; expanding the domestic market at the expense of our own enterprises is great.
        1. MVV
          MVV
          +2
          6 December 2013 18: 12
          Quote "For Russia, all this would be a giant plus, expanding the domestic market at the expense of its own enterprises is great."
          Euro-integrators will suck all the juices from Ukraine and then they will give us with an unhappy mine to raise the economy.
          1. +1
            6 December 2013 19: 09
            Why do we need to raise the Ukrainian economy after the EU? Did the Germans and the French do what? That's right. We removed the competitors. Will we have to do the same? And it is profitable to invite specialists from Ukraine to work.
            1. +4
              6 December 2013 19: 18
              We just need to invite the guys from the Yuzhnoye design bureau. To create ALL conditions for themselves and their families! More precisely, transport, grant citizenship (if they want)
              1. 0
                8 December 2013 20: 29
                Yes, ours have already offered the Ukrainians the Customs Union, outlined the prospects ... Only the vile-zonal Ukrainian government sees in this only "those who are sworn to her" and nothing more
              2. lapo32
                0
                12 December 2013 15: 55
                I agree, there is an elite, but we cannot influence
        2. +1
          7 December 2013 00: 21
          Quote: Mikhail3
          All that you have listed is living water for the Russian economy. Orders, work, work, orders ... a dream. Reorientation of enterprises - new equipment, jobs, expansion of the range.

          Some kind of "pioneer dawn" in your "one place" is playing, where are you going to take money for the above? IMF loans? Or voluntary investment from the West to boost Russian industry? Are you out of your mind at all? They destroyed the industry of all countries of Eastern Europe, and will they revive ours? fool
      3. rolik
        +15
        6 December 2013 11: 26
        Quote: domokl
        Yes, this Ukraine needs Europe, like a dog’s fifth leg

        Here are two reasons why Europe clung to Ukraine.
        1- A decent market for European products
        2- Crap Russia, this is holy for rear-wheel liberoids
        Well, mattresses are for, because shitting Russia is a sacred thing for them, and NATO is very close to Russia's borders.
        1. +4
          6 December 2013 11: 36
          Priorities would be more correct:
          1 - To spoil Russia, this is sacred for rear-wheel liberoids
          2 - A decent market for European products
        2. +2
          6 December 2013 12: 38
          The main reason is to weaken the economic ties of the Young Europeans, but they are not going to take Ukraine to Europe for the foreseeable future.
    3. +38
      6 December 2013 10: 12
      I corresponded with a friend from Bulgaria, says rallies and demonstrations they hold every day, and on weekends there is a gay parade. Unemployment is universal, she herself cannot find work. True, the correspondence ended after my mail-acquaintance sent me to the bathhouse, for the phrase: "Your government should have licked the Americans' ass less, and thought more about the interests of the people" laughing
      1. +6
        6 December 2013 13: 46
        Quote: Canep
        True, the correspondence ended after my mail-acquaintance sent me to the bathhouse, for the phrase: "Your government should have licked the Americans' ass less, and thought more about the interests of the people"


        it is understandable, since they naively believe, in spite of everything, in the "kind overseas master", and all the blame is placed on the local selfish "kings".
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      3. +2
        6 December 2013 14: 51
        But what kind of government will think about its people when the greens fly into their pockets. request
    4. +12
      6 December 2013 10: 15
      "Bulgaria lost 60% of jobs, depopulated and turned into a colony under the political control of the EU"
      Organize mass tours to Bulgaria for Ukrainians under the name "Bulgaria is a guest from your future".
      1. rolik
        +5
        6 December 2013 11: 29
        Quote: Veteran's grandson
        Organize mass tours to Ukrainians in Bulgaria

        They decently arrives in Bulgaria in the summer, a lot of cars with Ukrainian license plates. So that they themselves see everything.
        1. +10
          6 December 2013 11: 39
          Everyone hopes that this is exactly what will not happen to him.
        2. 0
          12 December 2013 12: 45
          So they go to resorts, what can you see there, hotels, taverns? It's like about Egypt only to judge Hurghada.
      2. +3
        6 December 2013 14: 56
        Yes good idea! Let them see how they fought for freedom and independence from Russia and how they will become slaves for Europe.
    5. +27
      6 December 2013 10: 18
      I saw an interview with a young fool from euromaidan ..
      - Why do you need Euroassociation?
      - So that you can go to Europe and look at life.

      What time! In general, this is killing me .. the purpose of life is to ride around the world and see what, where and how .. ((
      1. +13
        6 December 2013 10: 20
        Quote: Mairos
        - So that you can go to Europe and look at life.

        But they didn’t ask him - what shisha did he gather for in Europe? hitchhiking in Europe?
        1. +6
          6 December 2013 15: 00
          Previously, they walked with a staff and asked for food. For that they will see how people live. laughing
      2. rolik
        +5
        6 December 2013 12: 46
        Quote: Mairos
        What time! In general, this is killing me .. the purpose of life is to ride around the world and see what, where and how ..

        In order to ride around the world, this "prodigy" Maidan will need denyushki. And where will he earn them? So, standing and shaking snot on the Maidan ???)))
        1. +3
          6 December 2013 15: 05
          Yeah! And they will remember how the fat was fried on barrels. laughing But it turns out that the Maydans were promised 50 hryvnias to pay, but they never received from the sponsors. They blew them! bully Cheap, they sell their homeland to Amers and Eureka. recourse
          1. rolik
            +2
            6 December 2013 16: 48
            Quote: Simon
            promised 50 hryvnias to pay,

            They evaluate themselves in such an amount)))))
            In our country, after the last presidential election, 500 rubles were given to herds so that they would tie white bandages on their sleeves and go down the street. Wishing there were not very many, most likely almost no)))) They are greedy these maydauny with swamps)))))))
      3. +4
        6 December 2013 15: 36
        Quote: Mairos
        So you can go to Europe and look at life.
        To paraphrase one heroine, To make it better to dress.
        Quote: Mairos
        it kills .. the meaning of life is to ride around the world and see what, where and how .. ((
        I agree. You need to live, not look at life.
      4. +1
        6 December 2013 21: 22
        And now, a tourist visa is not a problem, just in the pockets it’s very quiet in most.
      5. Jeremy Xren
        +2
        10 December 2013 15: 51
        What is your purpose of life? Sitting on the rubble and writing comments?
    6. +21
      6 December 2013 10: 21
      Zapadentsam poh. on these arguments. Yesterday I argued with one. He of course recognized. that there is no industry in the West, but they do not cry from it. 5-10, well, maybe 15 years of work over the hill, and in the West, for example in Bukovina, each 2 hut:



      The main thing for them is that it is more convenient to travel abroad, although there is no such clause in the contract. They are not patriots of their native land.
      1. +7
        6 December 2013 15: 12
        England is already howling from such workers. Yes In general, he should have been asked, are they waiting for these "patriots" in Europe? There is competition to take out one pot of shit! For this pot you will have to fight with Africans and Asians. angry
      2. 0
        6 December 2013 22: 49
        Б
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        5-10, well, maybe 15 years of work over the hill, and in the West, for example in Bukovina, each 2 huts:

        Poor house then (about 10 thousand euros at local rates), and this is for 15 years of work over the hill, they worked as maids there. We earn 60-90 thousand rubles per month from Ivano-Frankivsk on logging.
        1. st.lt
          0
          10 December 2013 21: 03
          Of course, maids, and by whom else?
    7. +6
      6 December 2013 12: 21
      "Bulgarians are used to sitting and waiting to be rescued." that says it all...
    8. +9
      6 December 2013 12: 45
      I still remember Bulgarian vegetables. Just the charm of what it was. Sorry for the little brothers. Puppeteers continue their dirty work wherever there is a chance to destroy an independent and independent state.
    9. Pinochet000
      +3
      6 December 2013 13: 11
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Yes, this is not an example for the "smartest" "Ukrainians"

      I’ve been wondering for a long time what is the reason for such idiocy of the whole nation (a significant part of it), degeneration? After all, this is not a stranger to us, where do they get it from?
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 16: 48
        Departure from faith in God and, as a consequence, the loss of values
    10. +4
      6 December 2013 15: 29
      Quote: vladsolo56
      After all, Ukraine is not Bulgaria, nor the Baltic States, nor Poland, it is a chosen people without which Europe is not Europe.

      They have a painfully large opinion of themselves, but in reality Ukrainians, like Bulgarians, constantly "walked" under someone.
    11. +13
      6 December 2013 15: 41
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Yes, this is not an example for the "smartest" "Ukrainians" because there are always those who stumbled or blind or rotozei. You listen to them like that without them Europe simply suffocates without Ukraine, it is simply impatient for Europe to help Ukraine to raise its economy. After all, Ukraine is not Bulgaria, and not the Baltics, and not Poland, it is a chosen people without which Europe is not Europe

      - And I think, what does Europe remind me of? Remember the siren myth? The creatures that sing so sweetly - and when you come to their wonderful singing - so they ate you wassat In-in! Bulgaria has already been eaten, so at least Ukraine can be kept, you can even force it for its own good! Ay, Ukraine, there is an siren in ambush!
      I like this: "“The empty refrigerator finally defeated the TV”, “Bulgaria has two ways out of the crisis - terminal 1 and terminal 2 at the airport” “This is not the power of the people - this is the power of the Democrats”.. While the people are joking, he is alive. And why such jokes? Because Odessa is nearby? Or is this the city where the scarecrow cat is cut off every year? By the way, the city is just this Bulgarian, the capital of Bulgarian humor, but I don’t remember the name. laughing One feels the old tradition in these jokes, it is not from scratch that they joke like that, aptly and witty. I like. So far in Bulgaria to the point that everything is lost.
      And also - why the author of SABZh told about tomatoes, but not a word about cigarettes (I started smoking from the Rhodope, a flight attendant, Opal, Edelves and Kenton) and not a word about electric cars with which I began my labor activity. By the way, both cigarettes and punishments were very good! Really about "Antonov", dviglah "Motor Sich", and tanks from the Plant to them. Will we remember Malyshev in the same way as I now remember Bolgartabak and Balkancar? Nu-nu, not fun. I want to joke, not joke.
      1. kaktus
        +4
        6 December 2013 16: 28
        Gabrovo! There was a monument in the river. laughing eh eh eh what
        1. +2
          6 December 2013 17: 12
          Quote: kaktus
          Gabrovo! There was a monument in the river.

          - for sure, he is the most! A plus! No, brothers, joke, we will return Bulgaria to their homeland, where it has a place and their enterprises, we will return them to them, give me a deadline.
          1. mnn_13
            +7
            7 December 2013 02: 26
            In reality, the struggle of Russia for Bulgaria has begun. The previous government of Bulgaria was withdrawn after protests organized by pro-Russian forces behind which stood Russian energy interests (South Stream and NPP Belene). The new government is much more pro-Russian oriented. the Americans and their allies counterattacked, but the protests they provoked did not comprehend anything because there was not and there is no popular support for them. People have been fed up with words like "democracy", "freedom" and so on.
            Russia launched an offensive in Bulgaria and the chances of success are more than good ...
            1. +1
              8 December 2013 01: 00
              Bastards Gorbi and Yeltsin sold everything and everyone. Do not worry, Slav brothers: we will help out this time too.
      2. 0
        12 December 2013 13: 04
        Oh, my brother reminded me, it just skipped a beat, in the first year I changed Express to the Rodopi and Tu-134, in the 2-3 year I already had BT and Stewardess in a hard pack. Gay mattresses Philip Maurice, destroyed all the tobacco factories in all CMEA countries. The same European tolerasts destroyed Bulgaria.
    12. +2
      6 December 2013 16: 08
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Yes, this is not an example for the "smartest" "Ukrainians" because there are always those who stumbled or blind or rotozei. You will listen to them like that without them Europe is simply suffocating without Ukraine, it is simply impatient for Europe to help Ukraine raise its economy. After all, Ukraine is not Bulgaria, and not the Baltics, or Poland, it is a chosen people without which Europe is not Europe.

      It is not necessary to compare one God-chosen with another artificially created. Although they have a lot in common. One Khazar Kaganate is worth it.
    13. Walker1975
      -9
      6 December 2013 17: 40
      Eurocode, Gay Europe ... what words. But who will answer me, why then Putin and many of his associates send their children there and not be afraid for them? Suddenly, Putin's daughters enter into a same-sex marriage? What should Lavrov say?
      1. +6
        6 December 2013 17: 43
        Quote: Walker1975
        But who will answer me why, then, Putin and many of his associates send their children there

        Oh people, new info on Putin’s daughters. They are in Europe laughing The previous info that they are in Korea. Mozambique, USA and Brazil, please consider invalid wassat
      2. +3
        6 December 2013 17: 49
        And who told you that they are in Europe? Is there evidence? Or because that's what "everyone" says?
    14. wow
      0
      6 December 2013 22: 13
      We have all these "charms" available without gay union and in abundance !!!
    15. 0
      7 December 2013 16: 03
      They are right, without them Europe simply cannot survive at the same level. Because everyone has already been robbed, there is nothing to live on, it is necessary to rob others. These "others" include Ukraine. Gay rope cannot survive without Ukraine.
    16. +1
      8 December 2013 10: 17
      We have two options:
      1) Give them accession to the EU and let them slander the shit there until they get out of their ears. What would they then think about Europe for another 200 years
      2) Bring them home by force.
    17. catapractic
      0
      9 December 2013 19: 48
      smart learn from the mistakes of others and fools from their own. The question is, are the suburban Maidan workers smart? request sad what fool
      1. 0
        12 December 2013 13: 09
        Wrong, the full version of the saying "the wise learn from the mistakes of others, the smart from their own, and the fools never learn," and they always step on a rake, like that.
  2. +11
    6 December 2013 07: 38
    Everything is like in a joke about a traitor:
    - And the fat did not eat, and in front of friends is not convenient.
    1. Luger
      +15
      6 December 2013 08: 16
      Probably more precisely as in the joke about "Malchish Kibalchish", when the bourgeoisie threw Malchish Plokhish, he scratches his head and says: "Neither cookies, nor jam, and with a friend it turned out badly."
      1. +24
        6 December 2013 09: 18
        Quote: Luger
        "No cookies for you, no jam, and it turned out badly with a friend."

        It is approximately similar. When we rested there, we looked .... A depressive feeling almost evokes from the whole life of Bulgaria (not regarding tourists). In everyday life, the older generation remembers the USSR, Todor Zhivkov, quietly regrets. They say that probably now it is easier for young people to find themselves in Europe, but only tourists buy delicious peppers, tomatoes and watermelons. We’ve made golf clubs along the coast, the British and ours are hanging out there with bulging pockets ... Bulgaria has become a servant country, meek and powerless. And this is not an exception to the rule - this is the IRON rule for the countries of Eastern Europe. And Ukraine there too ...
        1. +3
          6 December 2013 15: 43
          Quote: Akhtuba73
          Bulgaria has become a servant country, meek and powerless

          it’s a pity that it happened, well, if so, use it to the full — let Ukraine at least look and see, maybe it will change its mind in Europe. Cruel, but clear.
  3. +8
    6 December 2013 07: 38
    As a counter-propaganda, let's hire the Bulgarians with EU anti-agitators, you can still organize tours for especially kriklmvy Maidanists to organize the ruins of the Bulgarian economy. It seems to me that this will be stronger than Glazyev’s interview.
  4. +91
    6 December 2013 07: 40
    From one of the sites of Ukraine. Author unknown.

    We will come back to you, Motherland!
    We will be back one day, Russia,
    Under your age-old wings
    From my freedom weakened
    That cleansed us naked.
    From delusional desires
    Under the whoopsy western howl
    We will come and rest on our knees
    Uncovered with his head.
    Winning the battles of epoch,
    About the humiliated brothers of sorrow,
    You felt sorry for both near and far,
    Never sparing myself.
    You carry this burden to the people
    Like a crown of thorns
    Putting for someone else's freedom
    Millions of their sons.
    How much were these victories
    Blood, sweat, courage, labor,
    If from the West - Germans and Swedes,
    Golden - from the east - Horde!
    If we were a wordless servant
    With a hardened crust in a handful
    If you don’t put on chain mail
    And did not get in their way.
    Having suffered from "beautiful life"
    By its naive simplicity,
    We will be back one day, Russia.
    This happens in adult children.
    In a sign of remorse and purification,
    Recognizing perversity and fornication,
    We openly ask for forgiveness
    For their possessed Judas.
    People’s servants played
    Alone sharing pies!
    How old are our children and grandchildren
    They will give out our debts!
    We will point our democrats
    Long way to debt prison.
    It’s better to be a "little brother" in Russia,
    Than a serf in a strange tower.
    We’ll cover the tables with delicious food,
    Pour gold goblets of wine
    We’ll arrange for the wake
    We will sing our best songs.
    We were cut off and not asked
    Is it necessary to protect us from you?
    And when we get back, Russia,
    You forgive. You know how to forgive.
    1. +3
      6 December 2013 16: 20
      No matter how tired of forgiving everyone.
    2. +3
      6 December 2013 18: 25
      The poem touches to the depths of the soul, a line of despair.
      1. 0
        6 December 2013 19: 57
        Maybe instead of writing poetry you have to go out and get down to business? And do not ask for help.
  5. Candy wrapper
    +17
    6 December 2013 07: 42
    We got it already with this Eurosodom, we have the same fag in power ... they sit, nothing is better. So the choice of the oligarchs is not enviable, they are either robbed by European oligarchs, or Russian. The Russian oligarchs seem to be less promising to rip off, but the Western ones promise to integrate into the world capitalist fraternity, and they both love to lie and steal, and they are rushing around as if they were threshing in an ice hole.
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 13: 17
      Quote: Fantik
      Already got with this eurocode


      Who now remembers how coolly the gay drills broke off two years ago? But the dough was spent inordinately.

      Will Kiev do it now?
    2. +3
      6 December 2013 16: 30
      Quote: Fantik
      We got it already with this Eurosodom, we have the same fag in power ... they sit, nothing is better. So the choice of the oligarchs is not enviable, they are either robbed by European oligarchs, or Russian. The Russian oligarchs seem to be less promising to rip off, but the Western ones promise to integrate into the world capitalist fraternity, and they both love to lie and steal, and they are rushing around as if they were threshing in an ice hole.

      Ours became almost "home".
      A little more and they will give everything "voluntarily".
      Prokhorov is still resisting, but his mobiles are not yet visible.
  6. +11
    6 December 2013 07: 46
    Not a single state of the Warsaw Bloc and the Former USSR, as a state, has taken place. And the Bulgarians have always been against Russia, which always surprised me. Ukraine learn from the mistakes of others, and don’t make your own!
    1. GDP
      +6
      6 December 2013 09: 44
      Not always, but only when Russia no longer needed it ...
      1. +9
        6 December 2013 10: 29
        Quote: GDP
        Not always, but only when Russia no longer needed it ...
        I mean, at critical moments, she was always opposed. After gaining independence in 1877, always, the First World War, the Second World War, and the collapse of the USSR, not only became independent, but darted into the camp of the enemy.
      2. +2
        6 December 2013 15: 19
        Yes! They, the Western Slavs, always lived on their own. And when it was tight, then they fled to Russia, and Russia without mercenary, helped everyone, to whom with the army, and to whom with weapons.
    2. -1
      6 December 2013 12: 45
      Not a single state of the Warsaw block and the Former USSR, as a state, has taken place.


      This is not true. Another question is how much better it became for the citizens of these countries.

      Although on the other hand - To what extent they can defend their sovereignty, against the inclinations of "senior partners".
    3. +4
      6 December 2013 14: 03
      Quote: bomg.77
      Not a single state of the Warsaw Bloc and the Former USSR, as a state, has taken place. And the Bulgarians have always been against Russia, which always surprised me. Ukraine learn from the mistakes of others, and don’t make your own!

      The Bulgarian people have always been Russophile, and politicians are inclined towards the future, as this gives them the opportunity to rob their people and their country. In Belarus and even in Little Russia, I think the people are mostly with Russia so far. Everything is in the hands of the people: they can shake themselves from hibernation, he will nominate leaders from his ranks, take power into his own hands, put Judde robbers in his place, and then the country will rise again. Russia's debt is to facilitate this process.
    4. +2
      6 December 2013 14: 44
      Quote: bomg.77
      Not a single state of the Warsaw Bloc and the Former USSR, as a state, has taken place. And the Bulgarians have always been against Russia, which always surprised me. Ukraine learn from the mistakes of others, and don’t make your own!

      Well, what do you want, Amer embassies exist for that. Everywhere their makfol are sitting.
    5. -3
      6 December 2013 14: 55
      Quote: bomg.77
      Not a single state of the Warsaw block and the Former USSR, as a state, took place

      What do you mean - did not take place? didn’t turn into a superpower - and so they were not even before that
      Expand the answer, please


      Quote: bomg.77
      And the Bulgarians have always been against Russia, which always surprised me

      I would not say . been in Bulgaria xnumx times.
      1. +1
        6 December 2013 16: 38
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: bomg.77
        Not a single state of the Warsaw block and the Former USSR, as a state, took place

        What do you mean - did not take place? didn’t turn into a superpower - and so they were not even before that
        Expand the answer, please
        Didn't turn into INDEPENDENT states
        Quote: bomg.77
        And the Bulgarians have always been against Russia, which always surprised me

        I would not say . been in Bulgaria xnumx times.

        There are politicians whom Bulgarians elect, but there are Bulgarians themselves.
        S.ki corrupt.

        We give them freedom from the Turks, and they are against us in 2 world wars.
        In the Balkans, you can normally communicate with the Montenegrins. The rest have already betrayed.
        1. mnn_13
          +2
          6 December 2013 23: 34
          М
          They are free from the Turks, and they are against us in 2 world wars.
          In the Balkans, you can normally communicate with the Montenegrins. The rest have already betrayed.

          Young man,
          Teach more history so that such a false statement is not written. Bulgaria did not fight Russia in World War II. She fought for the USSR and lost tens of thousands of soldiers. Read and learn more before writing such abominations that they put on a product only of your ignorance of history.

          There are politicians whom Bulgarians elect, but there are Bulgarians themselves.
          S.ki corrupt.

          Darling, be careful. Apparently you do not know who Boris Nikolayevich is, who chose him several times and what this alcohol lover did ...
          1. +2
            7 December 2013 00: 37
            Quote: mnn_13
            Apparently you do not know who Boris Nikolayevich is, who chose him several times and what this alcohol lover did ...

            How dare you call the first president of Russia? In the alcohol business he is PROFESSIONAL.
            1. +1
              7 December 2013 00: 58
              Quote: Setrac
              In the alcohol business he is PROFESSIONAL.

              Then he both terms clearly did not correspond to the vocation.
              And it should be called "The first and unique SOMELIE of Russia".
            2. mnn_13
              +1
              7 December 2013 01: 12
              Sorry Comrade General, you are quite right. I will not make this mistake a second time.
          2. bwo
            bwo
            0
            12 December 2013 22: 32
            This is where and when Bulgaria fought in WWII for the USSR and lost TENS of THOUSAND soldiers? I would be very grateful for the link.
      2. 0
        6 December 2013 20: 25
        Quote: atalef
        Expand the answer, please
        Independent in my understanding, it is a strong economy, a worthy army, with an understandable policy.
        Quote: atalef
        I would not say . been in Bulgaria xnumx times.
        I have an apartment there with 2010. in the city of Varna, though not quite close to the sea. People are good, but I'm not talking about ordinary people, but about the state as a whole.
        1. mnn_13
          +1
          6 December 2013 23: 38
          The state is what the new rulers from the West want. They wanted to do the same thing, and from Russia they didn’t get there ...
  7. +16
    6 December 2013 07: 48
    A revolution is made by those who have nothing to lose but their chains. V.I. LENIN

    Europe is inevitably awaited by hunger riots. Have you already forgotten what it is? Soon, remember.
    1. +4
      6 December 2013 12: 16
      Quote: shinobi
      A revolution is made by those who have nothing to lose but their chains. V.I. LENINEurope inevitably awaits hunger riots. Have you already forgotten what it is? Soon, remember.

      "A ghost is haunting Europe. The ghost of communism"
      It starts with hunger riots, then with the unification of those who have nothing to lose. But Europe still does not know about it.
      1. +5
        6 December 2013 12: 48
        Quote: Ustas
        "A ghost is haunting Europe. The ghost of communism"
        It starts with hunger riots, then with the unification of those who have nothing to lose. But Europe still does not know about it.


        Ice through tsat. I urge you to solve your problems now, and not wait until your neighbor's "cow dies"
      2. +1
        6 December 2013 14: 54
        Quote: Ustas
        Quote: shinobi
        A revolution is made by those who have nothing to lose but their chains. V.I. LENINEurope inevitably awaits hunger riots. Have you already forgotten what it is? Soon, remember.

        "A ghost is haunting Europe. The ghost of communism"
        It starts with hunger riots, then with the unification of those who have nothing to lose. But Europe still does not know about it.

        Spengler wrote about this in The Decline of Europe. predictions are starting to come true.
  8. +24
    6 December 2013 07: 56
    Well, how much can you believe that someone will come and make your life better. Only the USSR could do this, and probably no one else ever.
    1. +8
      6 December 2013 14: 04
      In the spring of 1996, in a conversation with a Russian businessman, Vanga said: “Russia is the progenitor of the Slavic powers. Those that separated from her, return to her in a new capacity. Russia will not turn from the path of reforms, which, in the end, will make the country strong and powerful. ” The Soviet system, in which Vanga lived half her life, did not burden her, although she grew up in poverty, and she lost her sight due to the poverty of her relatives. One day she had a conversation with a famous Bulgarian journalist, to whom she said: “Socialism will return in a new form. There will be the Soviet Union again, but a new one. There will be cooperative farms. And Bulgaria will overcome difficulties. Bulgaria will only move forward with Russia - it is our mother. Russia was and will be a great power ... Write about Marx and Lenin, youth should know them. Why are you ashamed of them?
      1. -1
        6 December 2013 14: 59
        Quote: 123dv
        In the spring of 1996, in a conversation with a Russian businessman, Vanga said: “Russia is the progenitor of the Slavic powers. Those that separated from her, return to her in a new capacity. Russia will not turn from the path of reforms, which, in the end, will make the country strong and powerful ”

        Of course, there’s no Vanga, and now he seems to be asking no one. And whose reforms did she mean in 1996

        Quote: 123dv
        Write about Marx and Lenin, youth should know them. Why are you ashamed of them?

        And why Engels forgot.
        It reminds me of translations and comments on Nostradamus - everyone comments as he wants, it is impossible to check everything equally. laughing
      2. +1
        6 December 2013 16: 43
        Quote: 123dv
        In the spring of 1996, in a conversation with a Russian businessman, Vanga said: “Russia is the progenitor of the Slavic powers. Those that separated from her, return to her in a new capacity. Russia will not turn from the path of reforms, which, in the end, will make the country strong and powerful. ” The Soviet system, in which Vanga lived half her life, did not burden her, although she grew up in poverty, and she lost her sight due to the poverty of her relatives. One day she had a conversation with a famous Bulgarian journalist, to whom she said: “Socialism will return in a new form. There will be the Soviet Union again, but a new one. There will be cooperative farms. And Bulgaria will overcome difficulties. Bulgaria will only move forward with Russia - it is our mother. Russia was and will be a great power ... Write about Marx and Lenin, youth should know them. Why are you ashamed of them?

        Those. Stalin's policy will return when there were both cooperatives and state. enterprises and collective farmers had their own farm. The enterprises received not only from production, but also from savings, i.e. from rationalization.
        1. +1
          6 December 2013 17: 17
          I think that while moving you need to look forward, not backward.
          In order not to fall, not to stumble, and so as not to curl your neck.
          How to do better, experience will tell, but also on the situation, on the situation ...
    2. +1
      6 December 2013 20: 51
      In Slovakia, the older generation still recalls how good it was with the Russians.
      1. +1
        7 December 2013 02: 05
        Quote: slovak007
        how good it was with the Russians
        ...
        Understand, we would like, really want them to be with us, and not with us.
        If this significant difference was understandable and understood, much would change in the world for the better, believe me.
  9. makarov
    +12
    6 December 2013 08: 03
    "Do you want to know how you will live in the European Union? Go to Bulgaria ..."

    Yes, I’ll get there on my pension, and how (?), After the bride? Nabos there in Bulgaria, the people became impoverished, even on the porch will not serve. I’ll watch on TV, maybe they’re not zombie.
    P.S. Or maybe Yanukovych specifically appoints such pensions that they would not go and watch? How to know ....
    1. 0
      6 December 2013 16: 49
      Quote: makarov
      "Do you want to know how you will live in the European Union? Go to Bulgaria ..."

      Yes, I’ll get there on my pension, and how (?), After the bride? Nabos there in Bulgaria, the people became impoverished, even on the porch will not serve. I’ll watch on TV, maybe they’re not zombie.
      P.S. Or maybe Yanukovych specifically appoints such pensions that they would not go and watch? How to know ....


      Come on. You have pensioners living well in the Russian Federation. Many did registration near the border, but live on the outskirts.
      In the Far East, the same thing, only instead of the outskirts of China
  10. -11
    6 December 2013 08: 03
    Why giggle over Bulgaria - they themselves are the same. And Russia expects the same.
    Our energy resources allowed us to die longer ...
    1. +14
      6 December 2013 09: 14
      Quote: Leader
      Why giggle over Bulgaria
      Where and who giggles ???
    2. +6
      6 December 2013 14: 56
      Quote: Leader
      Why giggle over Bulgaria - they themselves are the same. And Russia expects the same.
      Our energy resources allowed us to die longer ...

      No one giggles at the little brothers. On the contrary, we are worried.
  11. Luger
    +29
    6 December 2013 08: 10
    Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, Serbs are directly some sort of systematic destruction, moreover, on a scale of countries inhabited by the above-mentioned peoples.
    Some people write correctly, there is a struggle of civilizations, and in general, our positions in this struggle are not the best. Therefore, no matter how the decadent moods in Russia have multiplied over the fact that everything is bad with us, we need to find the strength and somehow resist all the negativity, otherwise we are expected to take into account Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, and maybe even worse, for some reason It seems that finishing with us will be with great pleasure, and with great care.
  12. +19
    6 December 2013 08: 32
    Yes, we have almost the same in Russia and without the Eurosodom thanks to the liberals from the government and the iPhone - a vivid example of the "reform" of health education, etc., we need water and electricity consumption rates and a monthly salary that exceeds the annual income of the average Russian state fool just recently I read it) was concerned about fire safety - they made a proposal to discuss the ban on fireworks - that's how fellow citizens will probably soon introduce a tax on air and the norms of its consumption hi
    1. +5
      6 December 2013 13: 26
      And the freshest "anecdote" from the new settlers "EvroDurDoma" you want:
      December 5, 2013, "Registered karutsu (cart) - joined Europe"
      Carts, strollers, sledges and other vehicles with live traction will be registered in accordance with the Model Rules approved by the government.
      With this method, in my opinion no one has ever mined!
      http://point.md/ru/novosti/obschestvo/zaregistriroval-karucu---priobschilsya-k-e
      vrope
      1. +1
        6 December 2013 16: 54
        The idea of ​​lowering the price of Russian gas for Ukraine in exchange for joining the Customs Union seems naive, said Alexander Medvedev, Gazprom’s deputy chairman of the board in an interview with the British business newspaper Financial Times.
        Without the intervention of doctors, you will restore your masculine strength

        “We are not in the market. Such a question could not even be on the agenda. The idea to buy Ukraine’s loyalty is primitive, ”a top manager said, RIA NEWS reported.
  13. +9
    6 December 2013 08: 41
    The only sensible bloc that, alas, thanks to the Anglo-Saxons did not take place, is the Russia-Germany alliance (now it’s too late, Germany has long been a Turkish woman) now there’s no one to be friends with China anymore ... otherwise this whole pack will somehow fall on us, Russia it's not only the reserves of Hydrocarbons, but more importantly, the reserves of Freshwater, etc.
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 12: 51
      This pack is petty mongrel, Europe itself is not a fighter against us.

      Quote: full zero
      Now there is no one to be friends with China


      China, if something happens, will not help us in anything - only Siberia is chopping off.
      1. 0
        6 December 2013 14: 45
        complete zero
        Now there is no one to be friends with China.


        Another group of tourists from China was not long in coming. Boredom on the faces of the Chinese was replaced by animation. Increasingly louder and louder they began to shout: “Look, look! The Russians themselves admit that Primorye once belonged to us, the Chinese! Russians are invaders! Let me complete asshole get out of here! ” In addition, the group was accompanied not by a Russian guide, but by a Chinese one. Perhaps - a PLA political worker practicing anti-Russian propaganda. He heated up the protesters. In Vladivostok in 2003, I saw that the Russophobic bacchanalia in the Museum does not stop. The tactlessness of the Chinese visiting him was still the same.
        "In Moscow, a scandal erupts between the Committee on Tourism and the Chinese
        tour guides. During a sightseeing tour of the Moscow Kremlin
        tour guides talk about Russia as “a barbarian kingdom that illegally took the Far East and Siberia from China,” the Echo of Moscow reports. The behavior of Chinese guides caused concern in Rostourism.(Gusev O. M. "Ancient Russia and the Great Turan")
    2. +6
      6 December 2013 13: 17
      There is such an anecdote about "Turkified" Germany:
      They go in one compartment American, Chinese, German and Turks. Well, they decided to show how rich their countries are. The Chinese man went to the window, opened and poured out a bag of rice. -We have a lot of him. The American went to the window, pulled out a pack of bucks and, with the words “We have a dofig, also threw it out the window.” At this time, the Turk leaned towards the German and whispered in his ear: - Or maybe you should not boast?
  14. +10
    6 December 2013 08: 41
    "This is not the power of the people - this is the power of the democrats."
    golden words, eh to find out who said them, otherwise the search doesn’t give anything out, and there should be a smart person to read the author.
  15. +9
    6 December 2013 08: 55
    The whole industry was methodically destroyed, everything that was possible was privatized for nothing and cut into scrap metal. Agriculture completely destroyed. The system of higher education has been destroyed. A mass of universities has multiplied, which issue bachelors of higher education.
    How familiar this all is.
    1. GDP
      +2
      6 December 2013 09: 49
      Right! The demo privatization methods seem to be the same everywhere. But we still somehow got out ... Although there is still a crawl and crawl before the bright future, but compared to the neighbors, the solvency level of the population is two to three times higher, with the exception of Belarus ...
      1. +3
        6 December 2013 11: 28
        Where did we get to? What schools began to give normal education to children free of charge, to get to the doctor without a month’s record in advance, utility bills, not to mention the decrease, stopped growing? Maybe s / f has revived by at least 30%? The list can be continued endlessly ... I am not a pessimist, but I see deterioration only in basic life parameters. As long as we rule this is a bunch of young talents who sweetly sing and smile sweetly, but at the same time who sell the country, there will be no good. Bulgaria will be delayed by 50 years. Or until we change our minds, we wouldn’t be too late ...
        1. +3
          6 December 2013 12: 56
          Quote: evgenm55
          As long as we are ruled by this handful of young talents, sweetly singing and sweetly smiling, but at the same time trading in the country, there will be no good.


          For five years now they have not bothered to sing sweetly - everything is bad, the economy is in the anus, but we are struggling, and naturally all the problems are not our fault and moreover not the fault of Solntseliky. it is now the favorite motive of bureaucracy.
        2. Algor73
          +1
          6 December 2013 13: 26
          And you, my friend, are not a patriot. It is not worth writing such comments.
        3. +1
          6 December 2013 17: 02
          “We are for the abolition of visas for Ukrainians, but this requires reforms by the Ukrainian government,” Sikorsky said.

          He noted that the EU foreign ministers would not agree to abolish the requirement for Ukraine to comply with the technical conditions for the abolition of visas.

          “As soon as Ukraine fulfills the technical conditions, that is, the intention is to introduce a visa-free regime,” the minister added.
      2. +7
        6 December 2013 14: 59
        I have many friends in Belarus, everyone is happy and they praise the Old Man. And they do not need a geyrop.
  16. +16
    6 December 2013 09: 00
    was in Bulgaria a year and a half ago, in the outback. Horror. Reminded Russia of the early 90s. The houses are all old, still Soviet-built.
    All the people have such sad eyes, the girls are standing along the highway. You need to live on something ...
    I don’t know about tomatoes, somehow I didn’t look, but local peaches and watermelons are sold for a penny.
    Turks walk in local restaurants and Turkish music is played. So, between the hammer (EU) and the anvil (Turks)
  17. +36
    6 December 2013 09: 35
    Bulgarians are so tearful because life sucks. And they become Russophiles because they want to eat. And ten years ago, proudly and arrogantly looked towards "Asian Russia" and considered the question of demolishing monuments to Russian soldiers. God turned away from the traitorous country and the destiny of Bulgaria drag out a miserable existence.
    1. +5
      6 December 2013 10: 29
      Well, I don’t know by water 10 years ago (how they looked at us), but about 20 years ago, it’s normal, I would say they were nice to Russia (Tyumen certainly)
      1. 0
        6 December 2013 20: 33
        Quote: complete zero
        (to Tyumen for sure)
        Everything is well related to Tyumen)) there is oil and gas bully
        1. 0
          6 December 2013 22: 31
          Between Tyumen and oil and gas fit not even the smallest European states.
    2. mnn_13
      0
      7 December 2013 01: 24
      Young man, I don’t know what your problems are with Bulgaria. I can assume that the priestess of love did not give you or perhaps you didn’t get any more, but when talking about betrayal more carefully. Mikhail Sergeyevich sold both the USSR and Bulgaria, therefore he is very frivolous on your part and speaks of betrayal in this way. Bulgaria is in this catastrophic situation for two reasons - it was executed because it was the USSR’s most faithful friend and the second - its destruction is being prepared and its large territories will come under Turkish control. If you had enough brain, you would understand that you are gloating, you have no reason.
      1. +1
        7 December 2013 14: 23
        Quote: mnn_13
        If you had enough brain, you would understand that you are gloating, you have no reason.

        This is not gloating; it is frustration with the behavior of former allies. There is such a Russian proverb - a friend is in trouble. The trouble showed who is Russia's friend and who is not.
        1. mnn_13
          -1
          8 December 2013 22: 45
          In this case, how would you comment on the fact that the KGB and the CIA fought together with pro-Soviet and pro-Russian forces in Bulgaria? Together they ousted a person from power who in the 60s proposed on his own initiative to annex Bulgaria to the USSR? What do you think of the sale and betrayal ...?
  18. roller2
    -8
    6 December 2013 09: 38
    It is strange to read such articles and comments to them. Indeed, not so long ago, on this site, Russian comrades convincingly proved that Ukraine will not be taken to the EU, comrades from Ukraine agreed with these arguments, statements by comrades from the EU were even published that said they would NOT take Ukraine to the EU.
    At the Vilnius Sumit, Ukraine did NOT sign an association agreement.

    And it is completely unclear why such articles?
    Moreover, the article was written in black and completely without any facts.
    Especially on a site with a military bias.
    1. GDP
      +7
      6 December 2013 09: 54
      So Ukraine is not offered full membership of the EU ... In fact, they are predicting to become a colony, so that, God forbid, do not fall under the wing of Russia ... They are promoting extremist sentiments and are actually calling for a coup. And this is geopolitics and it corresponds to the theme of this site. So now the West is fighting, not from the outside so from the inside.

      Europe plays with fire, to it these Euro-Maidan, Syria and Libya are still oh how they come around. Enough for them to stumble a bit and all the ulcers of Europe to multiply - all national, ethnic and interclass conflicts.
      And sooner or later this will happen, because developing countries begin to actively drag the blanket over themselves, forcing Europeans out of the world market ...
      It will no longer be possible to trade in "glass beads", "negros" will learn to make them themselves ...
    2. mnn_13
      +4
      7 December 2013 01: 29
      The article is all right. I am from Bulgaria and I know this for sure. I can only tell you that during the CMEA we were in a demographic wake. Now, year after year, we are setting new and new birth control records. It is an officially recognized statistical fact and not a speculative opinion.
  19. +8
    6 December 2013 09: 40
    It all depends on Moscow. I recall that the collapse of Bulgaria and all of Eastern Europe began after the betrayal of Gorbachev and K.
    If people in Russia take power and think about the interests of the whole people, and not narrow oligarchic circles, then all that is lost will be quickly restored.
    So far, the capitalists in Russia are too afraid to quarrel with their "class brothers" and silently register their defeats.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 12: 45
      Quote: Odyssey
      It all depends on Moscow. I recall that the collapse of Bulgaria and all of Eastern Europe began after the betrayal of Gorbachev and K.

      It all depends on the greed of countries such as Bulgaria and Ukraine, their loyalty is too expensive for Russia.
      1. mnn_13
        +2
        7 December 2013 01: 33
        No. It all depends on the betrayal of the Soviet ruling elite. Blames little Bulgaria for the biggest betrayal in history, mankind is complete madness.
  20. Corporal
    +4
    6 December 2013 09: 53
    Joseph Brodsky. Poems and poems
    On the independence of Ukraine (1994)

    Dear Charles XII, the battle of Poltava,
    Thank God, lost. As said burr,
    "time will show Kuzkin's mother", ruins,
    bones of posthumous joy with a taste of Ukraine.
    That is not green-quit, spent by isotope, -
    the black-and-white flying over Konotop,
    tailored from the canvas, Canada has in store.
    It’s free without a cross, but Khokhlov is not necessary.
    Goy you, a rushnyk, karbovanets, seeds in full shit!
    It is not for us, ka.tsapam, to blame them for treason.
    Sami under the images of seventy years in Ryazan
    with drenched eyes lived as under Tarzana.
    Let’s tell them, the loud mother paused pause strictly:
    good riddance to you, and a rushnyk road!
    Come from us in zhupan, without saying - in a uniform,
    at the address in three letters, in all four
    side. Now let the hans in the hut in chorus
    with lyakhami put you on four bones, heathens.
    How to get into the loop - so together, choosing the path in more often,
    and to bite chicken from borsch alone is sweeter.
    Farewell, lived together - that's enough!
    Spit, perhaps, in Dnipro, maybe he will roll back,
    disdaining proudly us, as fast, jam-packed
    leather corners and age-old resentment.
    Do not remember dashingly. Your bread sky
    us, we choke on cake and kolob, not requiring.
    There is nothing to spoil the blood, to tear clothes on the chest.
    Ended, to know, love, since there was a midway.
    What to poke around in vain in ragged roots with a verb?
    You have given birth to earth, soil, chernozem with a podzol.
    Fully swing right, sew us one thing, another.
    This land does not give you, kavuns, peace.
    Oh yes Levada-steppe, stealing, a chestnut, a dumpling!
    Go ahead, lose more - more people than money.
    Somehow interrupt. And as for the tears from the eye -
    there is no decree on her, wait until another time.
    With God, eagles, Cossacks, hetmans, warriors!
    Only when you come and die, bulls,
    you will wheeze, scratching the edge of the mattress,
    lines from Alexander, and not nonsense of Taras.
    1. 0
      6 December 2013 19: 05
      Joseph Brodsky:
      Quote: Efreytor
      Not for us, ka.tsapam

      wassat laughing wassat
  21. +7
    6 December 2013 09: 54
    To be honest, Ukraine has also been living for a long time ... well, maybe a little better and more beautiful ... but really quite a bit
  22. +3
    6 December 2013 10: 11
    Quote: Andrey 447
    God turned his back on the country of the traitor and Bulgaria’s destiny to eke out a miserable existence.

    Yes. probably such a share of Judas. Bulgaria, now the Baltic states, "brothers" x-okhly slender rows towards the aspen twig ...
    1. mnn_13
      0
      7 December 2013 01: 35
      Yes, always others are to blame for everything ...
  23. +3
    6 December 2013 10: 28
    Bulgaria is one example of the fact that not every state can be really independent. Even in the G-XNUMX, not everyone is such, and even more so countries like Bulgaria. They just can't do it. In any case, their policy will be determined by external forces, with all the ensuing consequences. Ukraine, too, will never be an independent state. However, this is not what they are fighting for on the Maidan.
  24. Troy
    +12
    6 December 2013 10: 28
    We have lost and we continue to lose information wars wherever possible. We are losing it even inside the country, allowing such channels as "Dozhd" and "Echo of Moscow" to conduct their propaganda.
    1. mnn_13
      +1
      7 December 2013 01: 40
      In my opinion, Russia does not lose this war simply because it does not even participate in it. As a result of another two decades, Bulgaria can completely lose its Slavic and Orthodox identities. For better or worse, think for Russia yourself.
  25. ed65b
    +6
    6 December 2013 10: 31
    but at nass in Russia they can stop in time and cast a glance back to change everything. this is what we distinguish from the rest of the world. and let the Euro-integrators and Euro-liberals not rejoice and groan. Russia they do not eat a piece in the throat will not fit choke.
  26. +4
    6 December 2013 10: 33
    Later we sang with the Germans, but they turned out to be bad allies.

    And you, Bulgarians, good allies, or what? During the German counterattack, Hungary fled at an incredible speed. Barely then collected ...
  27. DuraLexSedLex.
    +13
    6 December 2013 10: 48
    Yes, forum users will forgive me.
    But I sincerely wish Bendera’s geeks, and the zigzagging OUNites just such a life.And to them and their descendants, and also I I wish you closed tight for "those who truly chose the EU" Russian borderso that they could only come here on a tour and see what they exchanged for what.Sanctionthat would not a single product from "Nezalezhnaya" hit the Russian counter profitable for manufacturers. And sincerely wish gas valvethat would be not only hungrybut холодно.So comes faster.
    But knowing the "brothers of the Slavs" when they find themselves head over heels in the derme, they will blame the Russian Federation for this, the eternally discontented and abandoned "brothers".
    1. +11
      6 December 2013 12: 38
      yeah ... because of the crowd of "stupid"?
      The crowd does not judge everyone. They do not judge the capital by country!
      Nobody supported them here, on the contrary, they got all of them and will not receive any support.
      Certain representatives of western Ukraine, of course, can be desired, but not within the country.
      1. +1
        6 December 2013 12: 50
        Chrisie, what is it to us that no one supported them? As long as you endure, it’s also not painful for you to scratch yourselves, except for the already very critical case when war becomes inevitable.
        1. 0
          6 December 2013 15: 25
          All the same, it’s very good that there are sensible citizens in Ukraine. Yes
      2. DuraLexSedLex.
        +6
        6 December 2013 13: 23
        Just Ukrainians do not want help from Russia, but that would Russia and the Russians come and do something for them)
        Help is: you do(yourself), but you does not work, you are missing something, money, qualifications, experience, and they give it to you.And YOU get eventually.This is help.
        А Ukraine wants what would someone cameand instead Ukrainians themselves something did.Instead.
        But they themselves will sit and say that they got these same ones, and these devils came that they did, the occupiers again oppress.
        Raise the 5th point и Drive this booth yourselfif he got you nobody will help you until they see that YOU need it yourself!
      3. +1
        6 December 2013 15: 09
        Quote: Cristall
        yeah ... because of the crowd of "stupid"?
        The crowd does not judge everyone. They do not judge the capital by country!
        Nobody supported them here, on the contrary, they got all of them and will not receive any support.
        Certain representatives of western Ukraine, of course, can be desired, but not within the country.


        Zapadentsev rule the ball with the Poles. Western embassies muddied the water all clear. But the Russians themselves need to think not to go for carrots.
  28. +2
    6 December 2013 10: 48
    Now they sat remembering how delicious the oblong Bulgarian tomatoes were, others did not take. Eh. And maybe not the topic WHERE promised Syrian tangerines? We are waiting, tired of the bad taste of Turkish truth!
    1. Luger
      +1
      6 December 2013 11: 08
      It’s not up to the mandarins now to the Syrians, they themselves have nothing to eat there (read the Syrian press).
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        +6
        6 December 2013 11: 26
        There was news on the site, dear Luger, that Syria pays off citrus fruits with the Russian Federation, and that Syria buys the necessary humanitarian aid for money from the sale of citrus fruits in the Russian Federation. Baby food, things, medicines.
        Quote: Military Review
        “In connection with the blockade of Syria and the sanctions against its economy by the West, the United States and most Arab countries, our country is in a difficult position.
        Our state has signed contracts for the supply of fruits and vegetables to Russia, and these contracts involve the exchange of goods, that is, Russia will pay for its fruit with its own goods - milk formulas, medicines and other important goods necessary for the survival of the population of the whole state.
        In November, deliveries of citrus fruits to Russia should start, which we have a lot of.
        Therefore, I want to appeal to everyone: buying tangerines, oranges, please take Syrian ones.
        Please support the Syrian people, children, farmers.
        Buying Syrian fruits, you do not support any side of the conflict, but only give hope to the Syrian people for the future, which they are trying to take away from them.
        I appeal to you again. Syrian fruits are no worse than Turkish, Spanish, and maybe better, so when buying, please ask only them.
        Further goods such as olives and olive oil will also be received.
        And the last. Please spread this information so that a maximum of people can find out about it. Thanks in advance for your help.
        P.S. This year Syria has a record citrus harvest. The 400-500 thousand tons will be exported. ”


        Link to an article on VO, read carefully do not miss.
        http://topwar.ru/35799-geopoliticheskaya-mozaika-siriyskaya-oppoziciya-reshila-u
        chastvovat-v-zheneve-2-a-john-kerri-obyasnil-mirovomu-soobschestvu-chto-amerika
        cy-ne-slepye-i-ne-glupye.html
        1. Luger
          +4
          6 December 2013 12: 07
          Really! all that remains is to rejoice at their desire to work, and not to lose to the end what they have. In this connection, I take my words back about "no time for tangerines." hi
          1. DuraLexSedLex.
            +4
            6 December 2013 12: 46
            Quote: Luger
            it only remains to rejoice at their desire to work,

            I join)
            1. +1
              10 December 2013 14: 24
              Sochi. It seems that the Kuban is nearby (as they say "the breadbasket of Russia"), and Abkhazia with its citrus fruits, and for some reason Polish potatoes are on sale, tomatoes of unknown origin (by strength like an apple, after a bite on the pulp, traces of teeth remain), eggs They bring us from Siberia (under 60 rubles, and domestic ones - 100 rubles for a dozen). In general, it is possible to find a domestic product on the Sochi market, but it is not a fact that imported wood will not be sold under the brand "our".
    2. +2
      6 December 2013 12: 12
      Quote: tolan_petrovich
      Now they sat remembering how delicious the oblong Bulgarian tomatoes were

      Why only tomatoes? A good (and, in Soviet times, excellent) electric tool from Bulgaria, and typewriters? Yes, remember - it was quite an industrial country. I even recall something, that somewhere I crossed paths with Bulgarian computers ... But here I can ... If anyone is in the know, tell me. And the Bulgarian radio parts came across, sort of. Hungarians were definitely ... Here is our Dear Appleon ( hi May God grant him health! ... feel ) A very interesting infographic spreads. Interesting: is there an infographic on the degradation of industrial production in Bulgaria? It seems to me that a very interesting document would turn out! SW Apollo! Can you take it?
      1. Drosselmeyer
        +9
        6 December 2013 14: 58
        You forgot the most important thing: drinks
        1. +1
          6 December 2013 15: 41
          Of course, they don’t argue about tastes, but in my opinion it was rare d-mo
          1. catapractic
            0
            9 December 2013 23: 09
            SO ALTERNATIVES THAT IS NOT SPECIAL drinks IT WAS
        2. +2
          6 December 2013 16: 07
          And now the Bulgarians have such a scum laughing
          1. +1
            6 December 2013 16: 18
            Hi, Dan! I didn’t watch the video (and judging by the screen saver I won’t watch), but what’s amazing --- I simultaneously wrote everything that I think about Bulgaria, synchronously with you (I apologize for you), but I don’t seem to be strangers drinks
            1. +1
              6 December 2013 16: 21
              Hi Alexey, I haven’t neighing for a long time (about the video). drinks Brooded the country bro
              1. 0
                6 December 2013 16: 47
                [quote = Den 11] I haven't laughed like that for a long time (about the video). [/ quote] stop No, No, I like solid rock or something Soviet-military patriotic, okay, I persuaded, I'll take a look and the review will be broken for you.
              2. +1
                6 December 2013 21: 53
                But they have progressed in democracy.
              3. mnn_13
                +1
                6 December 2013 23: 48
                But they punished this punishment for the fact that we ourselves were a faithful friend of the USSR from all countries of the Warsaw Pact. To defeat Orthodoxy in the Balkans, Bulgaria is a key factor as the geographical center of the Balkans.
                1. 0
                  7 December 2013 00: 04
                  Ivan, maybe you should unite again? What do you think?
                  1. mnn_13
                    +3
                    7 December 2013 01: 49
                    I think Comrade General that cynicism and arognity will not lead to anything good. If you had more brain, you would understand that the destruction of Bulgaria does not bring anything good to Russia. And this is clear to every Russian patriot.
                    Are you really Russian?
                    1. 0
                      7 December 2013 02: 00
                      I am really Russian (with a German cross) and I really want us to be together (honestly, from the heart). You better explain everything to our Ukrainian brothers.
                      1. mnn_13
                        0
                        8 December 2013 01: 55
                        I am sure that we will be together again. The enemies of Slavism and Orthodoxy are also confident in this, who are trying to end us or cause maximum damage to the Bolagra people.
                        Wang said that it would be like that. And the fact that I know from personal observation gives me reason to think that it was a real phenomenon.
                      2. 0
                        8 December 2013 02: 07
                        Hi friend. Do you really want to become the 16th republic again?
                      3. mnn_13
                        0
                        8 December 2013 22: 59
                        Provocateur? :) I hope that you will earn good money and what you do on a personal plan helps you.
                        And those who pay you tell me that all the same we will be together again (understand this as you want ...), despite who and how much money they pay.
          2. +1
            6 December 2013 16: 49
            Quote: Den 11
            And now the Bulgarians have such a scum

            He is a gypsy and a hunchbacked mountain! There are a lot of them in Bulgaria!
            1. +1
              6 December 2013 19: 05
              Quote: ayyildiz
              He is a gypsy and a hunchbacked mountain! There are a lot of them in Bulgaria!
              Datycha, but the truth is shtol))) HAHA, I know one humpback mountain, I watched a movie about it, and do you know where I watched this movie? On the Stara Zagora street, in the Shipka movie theater. Do you know why such Bulgarian names in Samara ? Because SHIPKA is the mountain of our glory and the Samara regiment defended it. Here is the banner of the volunteer Samara regiment, it stood on Shipka, and now in the museum. Do you know why? Because all the pr-rs remained under that mountain, and the banner with honor went to the museum.
              1. +3
                6 December 2013 19: 24
                .................................................. ..............................
                ..............................................
          3. +3
            6 December 2013 17: 49
            Fu, damn it --- when this bearded woman sang me I jerked and pressed "stop". Sorry, it's not mine. Better spread the WWII movie guns, but these ... But I understood your sarcasm and your teaching --- sodomites with The West is advancing (this is a fact), and what is interesting --- Sharia people are advancing, a black shadow, underground creatures. [Media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = sQIZmHs81II] They say that
            about in the secret prisons of the CIA, Muslim terrorists were tortured by Mr. Metallika, and for me, raspberries are given life --- they give me a hawk, and even under my beloved group I’ve sausage all day wassat
            1. +1
              6 December 2013 17: 56
              Don’t apologize. I laid it out for laughs. I myself didn’t make a mistake. Would you like to go to Europe? --- here, hoot. They’ll throw you such a silo
              1. 0
                7 December 2013 00: 18
                Quote: Den 11
                I laid it out for a laugh.

                Look, I’ve thought of something, Deniska .... To laugh him ..... What a naughty man ....
                Women on him bareno good.
                Take away this shame from the respected community, to take it quickly.
                Yes, do not rummage around in those places where entom shame in abundance.
                It always starts like this "with a look", then you want to make some fun, and then you look and spike with might and main .... With a laugh ...
                It's not good, it's not good ...... laughing
                1. +1
                  7 December 2013 00: 28
                  Come on, old, you and I are far from this current one. The main thing is not to interfere with your children in life (I have two of them), is that right?
                  1. +1
                    7 December 2013 01: 05
                    Quote: Den 11
                    The main thing is not to interfere with your children living in life (I have two of them) - is that right?

                    What does "not interfere" mean? Yes, they need help.
                    I also have two and so far "snotty", but we are thinking of kneading more, least, one (one).
                    That the "old" disagrees. Recently, only 38 rolled.

                    Well, when compared with the life of the ciliates, it’s not just old, but retro, even vintage .... laughing
                    1. +1
                      7 December 2013 01: 18
                      And I’m 40-ket. In general, somewhere close in understanding. No offense to the old man?
                      1. +1
                        7 December 2013 01: 21
                        Oh sure. Do we live in sadness .....
                        What are our years! drinks
                      2. -1
                        7 December 2013 01: 32
                        I’m interested in people with whom you can talk on the topic. But you understand with a nameless forehead.
            2. 0
              6 December 2013 20: 37
              also not a bad song
          4. 0
            6 December 2013 18: 29
            NUTRITION Well come to us In Rostov-on-Don on August 2 we will organize such a reception
          5. +1
            6 December 2013 19: 29
            Well, here they are laid out
            Well, pipts ...... this is the rate of degeneration .... fucking! It's not even insanity .... it's the brain that has developed to a state of "like a ciliate's shoes." But under the USSR it was a good country ...
        3. +3
          6 December 2013 16: 36
          Quote: Drosselmeyer
          You forgot the most important thing:
          How could I!! fool
          Quote: Den 11
          Of course, they don’t argue about tastes, but in my opinion it was rare d-mo
          You shouldn't be so Den! This drink (very democratic, by the way ...) was held with us under the code: "Student cognac". After 3 glasses, the third eye opened in full breadth! Yes
          1. 0
            6 December 2013 16: 50
            Hi Jura. My body categorically refused to accept it. No.
            1. +3
              6 December 2013 17: 05
              Quote: Den 11
              Hi Jura. My body categorically refused to accept it.

              Hi Dan! hi We had to train the body! N. Zabolotsky also wrote:
              The soul must work am ! And day and night, and day and night!
              White Stork, everyone could ...
      2. +2
        6 December 2013 16: 33
        There were very good electric loaders "BALKANKAR", storage batteries.
        1. +1
          6 December 2013 16: 39
          Quote: Andrey 447
          There were very good electric loaders "BALKANKAR"

          Right! I remember.
        2. 0
          6 December 2013 17: 09
          Quote: Andrey 447
          rechargeable batteries.
          yellow-red sticker, we immediately with her father on the rear window of our 11th, then she flew with us on all roads, swallow ..! fellow
          Quote: retired
          Right! I remember.
          Yuri, I read the forum yesterday for technical reasons, but the word couldn’t be inserted, .. the MTS modem, ruff your copper --- a thousand reasons (all as advertisements), but it’s all gusli, and most importantly: They passed the exam ? (I don’t ask about the state of polishing logs - this is your bear meadow, spud it yourself)
          1. 0
            6 December 2013 17: 24
            Good evening Alexey! Yes!!!!! Passed it! Already noted drinks 4 days taught! But in half an hour I passed. A great weight off one's mind! It’s just that without a Rostekhnadzor’s certificate they won’t let a cannon shot at objects of the oil and gas industry. And there is money ... feel Yes. I look at your avatar and think: "How can I adapt it for polishing logs?" what No options yet ... No. drinks
      3. +1
        9 December 2013 10: 36
        Quote: retired
        somewhere with Bulgarian computers intersected

        The Pravets computer is an analogue of IBM XT. My first computer with a 5 MB hard drive: at the sunset of the USSR it seemed that so much disk space was enough for the rest of my life.
  29. Peaceful military
    +7
    6 December 2013 11: 06
    All but one. The author says that their borders are open. NO! Bulgaria is not in Schengen, so there is no question of any freedom of movement around Europe.
    Only ukr_am is all this to one place, where they apparently have a mental apparatus.
  30. +4
    6 December 2013 11: 25
    Nehai Bulgarians vybyayut prey Philip Bedrosovich Kirkorov, and begin to work.
    1. +8
      6 December 2013 11: 47
      They will have a president who is not smart, but vociferous wink
      1. +9
        6 December 2013 13: 54
        Vocal - is it that walks with bare sys (ki) kami? wassat
      2. +3
        6 December 2013 14: 46
        Quote: gecko
        They will have a president who is not smart, but vociferous

        he will teach them Russian as that journalist laughing
      3. +1
        6 December 2013 15: 27
        Yeah! All Ukraine will sing. belay
        1. +2
          6 December 2013 16: 05
          Quote: Aeneas
          Nehai Bulgarians vybyayut prey Philip Bedrosovich Kirkorov, and begin to work.
          Aeneas, Phil. Bed.Kir .--- it is a cocainized homosexual motor substance, Bulgarians (and they are there) --- do not give a single vote for this semblance. They named me in honor of the monument to Alyosha and I smell this connection. I know that young Bulgarians are brought up in a spirit of hostility towards Russia (as elsewhere, on the facets of the EU --- NATO), but we will still sing and stand.
          1. kaktus
            +1
            6 December 2013 16: 36
            Your words to God’s ears! good
            1. 0
              7 December 2013 03: 53
              Quote: kaktus
              - God’s ears!
              May God rule heavenly justice and don’t hear this, without departing from it at all, with his help we will always be able to fill the ears of the EU-NATO with the volume-vacuum sound of Stalin’s organs. [Media = http: // http: //www.youtube .com / watch? feature = player_embedded & v = pz7
              jOry30f4]
  31. a
    a
    +9
    6 December 2013 11: 35
    One conclusion can (and should) be drawn from all this: we do not know how to fight for the minds of the inhabitants of other countries. yes, in the West, the science of "hanging noodles" has been practiced for centuries. and we still believe that they will take our word for it. no, it's time to understand that our word has long been slandered in the West. and no one will believe him just like that. even people close to us. therefore, you need to rebuild your propaganda machine, in the best sense of the word. based on modern perception. only in this way can we win the battle for minds. this is how the USSR won battles.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 15: 11
      Quote: uno
      One conclusion can (and should) be drawn from all this: we do not know how to fight for the minds of the inhabitants of other countries. yes, in the West, the science of "hanging noodles" has been practiced for centuries. and we still believe that they will take our word for it. no, it's time to understand that our word has long been slandered in the West. and no one will believe him just like that. even people close to us. therefore, you need to rebuild your propaganda machine, in the best sense of the word. based on modern perception. only in this way can we win the battle for minds. this is how the USSR won battles.

      +++ When it reaches the elite.
    2. +1
      6 December 2013 17: 08
      Quote: uno
      One conclusion can (and should) be drawn from all this: we do not know how to fight for the minds of the inhabitants of other countries. yes, in the West, the science of "hanging noodles" has been practiced for centuries. and we still believe that they will take our word for it. no, it's time to understand that our word has long been slandered in the West. and no one will believe him just like that. even people close to us. therefore, you need to rebuild your propaganda machine, in the best sense of the word. based on modern perception. only in this way can we win the battle for minds. this is how the USSR won battles.

      I agree, but everything needs to be done on time and in moderation.
      At the moment, it’s easier for us not to do ANYTHING.
      On the outskirts of the Russians. The more you can’t, the more you want.
  32. +7
    6 December 2013 11: 36
    Well, I have no desire to feel sorry for the "brothers": ingratitude and unconsciousness have become the main character traits of the Bulgarians. Who freed them from the Ottoman yoke-Russia and how they repaid7 Having accepted "European values" who was elected king of Bulgaria, and Whose side were they? And in World War II they were Hitler's allies. That is why Europe always used them, and then threw them away as unnecessary garbage! A similar fate awaits Ukraine. Woe to the family if the father is an alcoholic and the mother is a prostitute. And no Putin in this it's not his fault that he has few worries of his own!
  33. +4
    6 December 2013 11: 40
    What is there to be surprised at? "Enlightened Europe" always viewed the Slavs as slaves ... Over the past centuries, nothing has changed. In wars, they did not succeed, they took them by bribery and deception. Now the slave does not have a collar, the slave is simply kept without funds (and this is more abruptly than the collar), therefore, for the sake of any "penny" he voluntarily agrees to everything ... here is such a "new" form of slavery. And in Ukraine, they have been raising such a slave for a long time, for 20 years ... they have such a mentality, they themselves want slavery under the sauce of "beautiful life" and imaginary freedom.
  34. +4
    6 December 2013 11: 48
    Yes, about 4 years ago, coming to ski in Bulgaria,
    there they fed Shopska salad, agnieszk and poured a glass of delicious brandy.
    Ehhhhh ...
    Everything was his own. The year before last, the owners sadly shrugged their hands and
    grieved for Dutch tomatoes, Greek cheese and Greek "Bulgarian" pepper ...

    And they were so hoping to get to Schengen ... And they were wrapped, in my opinion, by Germany.
    Like you have corruption there and it is not clear what ...
    Sooo revealing sad history of the country.
    Stoop by the way. The Bulgarians themselves are allowed to enter with valid Schengen visas.
    So that.
    European integration.
  35. misham
    +2
    6 December 2013 11: 53
    In Ukraine, everything is the same as in Bulgaria .......... and without any European Union. Everything is like the author’s (and about factories and about poverty and about education)
    It's just that our people are tired of living in G..NE and expecting a "PARISH". People on the Maidan are not for abstract Evroppu (and its type of value) but against the authorities.
    1. +5
      6 December 2013 12: 00
      If people are against the existing government, as you say.
      You yourself chose her.
      And very violently, on the same Euromaidan. Yushchenko was still there.

      And further. I do not understand, again.
      There, on the Maidan, now - what are you fighting for?

      I repeat. Against whom - it is clear.
      But for what?
      It's just that Nenya personally has the concept of "Ukraine's European choice" that is being discussed by the media now
      firmly associated with the concepts of "Eurorepair", "Euro-lining", "Eurodrova" (Yes, yes! There is such idiocy).
      It is sad to see how empty, lying through and through, essentially treacherous slogans act on hamsters. And how they act!
      ...
    2. +1
      6 December 2013 12: 17
      vague doubts torment that there they cherish for the people (on the Maidan), there they rather fight for a place at the trough in the geysouzou. Those who are against the government (who had the strength and resources) have long voted with their feet and dumped from Ukraine. The rest are either satisfied with what they have, or they hope to adapt to the new conditions, or they are all already cool ...
  36. Clegg
    -33
    6 December 2013 12: 14
    Now the Russian people are massively dreaming that Ukraine will live in the same shit as Russia. Sometimes this dream is formulated in beautiful and smart words. More often than just insults. They say that Ukrainians have not yet grown up, they are climbing across the dad, nobody needs them in Europe, they will all use them and almost rape them in the literal sense of the word.

    Russia is the first! Russia is the best! And Ukraine is the backyard. Russians like to compare it with Albania, Moldova, Romania. Like, those, like Ukraine, are underdeveloped. And Ukraine will be in their company. In all of this there is a mixture of two things: envy (nobody calls Russia anywhere) and the desire that everything would be worse for a neighbor. Better to burn his house than build your own steeper! This is the national Russian idea. They say they can’t find her. But she is. Here she is!

    It was written by Russian, not me))) Excerpt from the article
    1. +23
      6 December 2013 12: 38
      He is the same Russian as you are. None of the Russians wish evil to Ukraine, none of the Russians ever humiliated Ukrainians, and in principle no one ever saw any differences between Russians and Ukrainians (Maloros) - this is the same difference as between Voronezh and Novgorodians and Pskov ... The Ukronationalists themselves created a myth about their exclusivity and their European nature ... and that they are not related to Russians.

      I am writing this to you, a fucking Ukrainian who knows what generation Alexander GLUSHCHENKO is.
      1. Clegg
        -10
        6 December 2013 14: 06
        Quote: Sochi
        He is the same Russian as you are.


        Can you read?
        What kind of Russian am I?
        I never said that I was Russian. I respect all nations with respect. And to the Russians, and to the Ukrainians and to others. But I am Kazakh, this is not a reason for pride and not a reason for shame. This is a statement of fact.

        I never attached myself to the Russians, and henceforth I am not going to.

        All claims about the comment to the author of the article.

        According to the rules of the site, you can’t make copy-paste for the entire article, so I gave an excerpt.

        Link attached

        http://www.art-blog.com.ua/articles/?id=71

        I appeal to all Russians, if you really love the Ukrainians, let them go. Do not discourage them.
        1. +8
          6 December 2013 14: 34
          Quote: Clegg
          I appeal to all Russians, if you really love the Ukrainians, let them go. Do not discourage them.

          Yes, no one would interfere, but Ukraine has little freedom, it needs Russian gas, a Russian market, and Russian loans! So in your opinion, let them be taken away without hindrance? What kind of freedom are we talking about? Paid by the State Department?
          1. Clegg
            -12
            6 December 2013 14: 55
            Quote: Setrac
            Yes, no matter how no one interferes,

            Truth? What about liliputin?
            1. +5
              6 December 2013 19: 46
              fat impudent smelly troll (underline as necessary)
              1. +1
                7 December 2013 00: 25
                fat impudent smelly troll
                So can you only? what laughing

                Only I did not feel it and did not smell.
                But I trust you! love feel
        2. +5
          6 December 2013 14: 38
          Quote: Clegg

          I appeal to all Russians, if you really love the Ukrainians, let them go. Do not discourage them.
          ... Achtung, Achtung, Germany says! ... Ukrainians, real Ukrainians, I respect their life, BUT, can you see who galloped in an organized manner in the first days of this Zamyatnya? In the forefront, not sparing my precious Aryan blood? And I it’s like I saw the sight on the Yu-tube in the panorama .. Boys in a variety of military ammunition, but combined their blindfolds. Yellow blindfolds. And on each such blindfold the emblem of the ss das reich division is black! I will not let go of these guys, the war continues. the rest --- Learn
        3. +1
          6 December 2013 15: 09
          Yopti, are you back?
          1. Clegg
            +1
            6 December 2013 17: 34
            Quote: IOwTZ
            Yopti, are you back?


            Yopta who addressed?))))
        4. their
          +2
          6 December 2013 15: 18
          Quote: Clegg
          I never attached myself to the Russians, and henceforth I am not going to.


          To whom should you stick on yours then?



          Quote: Clegg
          I appeal to all Russians, if you really love the Ukrainians, let them go. Do not discourage them.


          Whoever holds them, let them go to the EU. Putin and his team have already said that Ukraine must decide and choose. Kazakhstan is so beneficial for Ukraine to join the EU, you can take their market in Russia.
          1. Clegg
            +1
            6 December 2013 17: 08
            Quote: sus
            To whom should you stick on yours then?

            At will))) But I personally don’t attach myself to anyone. But when they write to me he is as Russian as you. I have to answer
          2. +1
            6 December 2013 19: 54
            Quote: sus
            Whoever holds them, let them go to the EU. Putin and his team have already said that Ukraine must decide and choose.



            "If you want to make sure that something belongs to you, let it go. If it's yours, it will come back to you. If it doesn't come back to you, then you never had it."
            (Obscene offer, old movie)
        5. +2
          6 December 2013 16: 39
          We have already let go of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, the Baltic states ...
          Also were all so national of themselves.

          They talked about a national breakthrough in a separate and terribly now independent state.

          The result is visible for a long time. And with the naked eye.
          1. Clegg
            -4
            6 December 2013 17: 33
            Quote: f4b2
            We have already let go of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, the Baltic states ...

            And Glory be to Allah)))
          2. 0
            7 December 2013 00: 17
            Quote: f4b2
            We have already let go of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, the Baltic states ...
            Also were all so national of themselves.

            They talked about a national breakthrough in a separate and terribly now independent state.


            and now that we are lying on the pavement and dying of hunger? we live like everyone else, we don’t complain. There are problems, and who doesn’t have them?
        6. +4
          6 December 2013 17: 37
          [quote = Clegg] [quote = Sochi] He is the same Russian as you. [/ quote]
          Can you read?
          What kind of Russian am I?
          I never said that I was Russian. I respect all nations with respect. And to the Russians, and to the Ukrainians and to others. But I am Kazakh, this is not a reason for pride and not a reason for shame. This is a statement of fact.
          I never attached myself to the Russians, and henceforth I am not going to.
          What is Kazakh different from Russian?
          In the Kazakh, the basis is the clan, and in the Russian community (society), which is a higher degree of community organization.
          That is why progressive Kazakhs were drawn to Russians and occupied a worthy place in Russian society (community). At the same time, traditionalists (who are the majority at the moment in the political community of Kazakhstan) deny the positive influence of the Russians on the tribal relations of the Kazakhs, their influence on the traditional nomadic Kazakh culture.
          The Russians deprived the Kazakhs of pasture, but created cities in their place.
          The Russians destroyed the Zaporizhzhya Sich (traitors who sold to those who paid the most), moving them to the Kuban, and then to the Terek.
          Russians are to blame for creating the Baltic states and instead of Bukhara Kokand slave khanates created republics
          Let us not make all decisions to residents of capitals, as it was in 1991, but to the population of the entire territory in a referendum (voting)
          1. Clegg
            0
            6 December 2013 18: 01
            Quote: Vasya
            and the population of the entire territory in a referendum (voting)

            Any referendum on Kazakhstan joining Russia or creating a new union is an unconstitutional act. Naturally I am against this Vasya)

            Quote: Vasya
            In the Kazakh, the basis is the clan, and in the Russian community (society), which is a higher degree of community organization.

            I will not argue

            Quote: Vasya
            That is why progressive Kazakhs were drawn to Russians and occupied a worthy place in Russian society (community)

            progressive ?!)) This is Mustafa Shokai who knew 7 languages ​​not progressive?))))

            Quote: Vasya
            At the same time, traditionalists (who are the majority at the moment in the political community of Kazakhstan) deny the positive influence of the Russians on the tribal relations of the Kazakhs, their influence on the traditional nomadic Kazakh culture.

            I’m probably a traditionalist by your logic, but I don’t deny the positive things that we have adopted from you.
            1. 11111mail.ru
              0
              6 December 2013 18: 43
              Quote: Clegg
              progressive ?!)) This is Mustafa Shokai who knew 7 languages ​​not progressive?))))

              Read your own writings yourself and answer yourself! Do not shine emotions for nonsense.
        7. 11111mail.ru
          +3
          6 December 2013 18: 38
          Quote: Clegg
          to all Russians, if you really love Ukrainians, let them go. Do not discourage them.

          Where are you from? Do you know what year it is? According to my information, 2013 so far, and not 1990. 22 years as they released. Only now does the shining fraternal country shine not letting go, but LOWERING is a qualitatively different process. And Russia stated that it does not want this for Ukraine ... For starters, read the article!
        8. 0
          6 December 2013 19: 34
          It seems to you that it’s time to London you are unaware you are our .......
          1. Clegg
            +1
            7 December 2013 00: 18
            Quote: I am
            you are unaware .......

            ahahhah, yes I deeply purple to your respect or disrespect)))
        9. +1
          8 December 2013 23: 38
          Oh, my Kazakhs, my poor people!
          The mustache, who did not know the razors, hides your mouth.
          Blood behind the left cheek, fat behind the right cheek.
          Where is good and where is evil, will your mind make out?
          Face to face friendly and kind, but then,
          As a shopkeeper, you change face immediately.
          Not listening to others, you say your own,
          And your empty chimes rattle with your tongue.
          Do you own good? Forget about it
          Day gloomy, at night you can’t fall asleep.
          He who is envious and free of will is always
          Lightweight in anger or joy be.
          All insignificants rave about worldly glories,
          Fuss, make noise, disturbing peace.
          I doubt very much your correction,
          If your will has become a will of others.
          Because of the little things, the neighbor is touchy forever,
          As if God deprived a person of reason.
          There is no unity, no accord, no truth in the soul,
          Therefore, your herds melt like snow.
          Everything is not for the future: wealth, and mind, and kinship,
          Only envy eats your nature.
          Get rid of this old vice, or not
          You will tear yourself into rags.
          You competed with other minds and goodness,
          You will tear yourself in such a contest.
          If you can’t fix your defect in time.
          You will remain low always and in everything.
          And you will never be comforted from now on
          If the slides you can’t overcome on the way.
          Everything is changeable, there is no support in anyone.
          Well, tell me, what is the use of such fun?
          If a wise mentor comes, his
          Blackened behind a secret whisper.
          Verse of Kazakh Abay!
    2. +2
      6 December 2013 12: 39
      Well, partly true. We build bricks ourselves, cement give the lime media.
      In the head grows the great Slavic wall.
    3. +8
      6 December 2013 12: 47
      Quote: Clegg
      It was written by Russian, not me))) Excerpt from the article

      The one who wrote it
      1) Hates Russia
      2) Not friends with the head.
      The whole text is absolutely vicious nonsense.
      The very first phrase is enough.
      I have not met any Russian who would like to harm Ukraine. And about living in such "shit"
      GDP per capita PPP in 2012 according to the World Bank. Russia-23549 $, Ukraine-7418 $. The difference is more than 3 times.
    4. +4
      6 December 2013 13: 50
      Quote: Clegg
      Now the Russian people are massively dreaming that Ukraine will live in the same shit as Russia.

      Quote: Clegg
      It was written by Russian, not me

      Well ... How is Gorin-Schwartz in "To Kill the Dragon":
      Don't look like that, it's not about me. We young people were taught that way, understand? So taught.
      Everyone was taught, but why were you the first student?

      Sk about TIN and you are Skittle! Wash shoulder straps from the holy form and turn opu to the west. From there the truth will descend on you ... Where are you riveted?
      1. Clegg
        -17
        6 December 2013 14: 08
        Senior citizen advice to you, watch the zombie and endless TV shows. You probably will do it much better.
        1. +1
          6 December 2013 19: 49
          recommend urgent death, not sure, but your illness should help
          1. Clegg
            +1
            7 December 2013 00: 22
            Quote: I am
            recommend urgent death, not sure, but your illness should help

            But how dare you take a nickname in the language of enemies, eh?)))))))
    5. +2
      6 December 2013 15: 18
      Quote: Clegg
      Now the Russian people are massively dreaming that Ukraine will live in the same shit as Russia. Sometimes this dream is formulated in beautiful and smart words. More often than just insults. They say that Ukrainians have not yet grown up, they are climbing across the dad, nobody needs them in Europe, they will all use them and almost rape them in the literal sense of the word.

      Russia is the first! Russia is the best! And Ukraine is the backyard. Russians like to compare it with Albania, Moldova, Romania. Like, those, like Ukraine, are underdeveloped. And Ukraine will be in their company. In all of this there is a mixture of two things: envy (nobody calls Russia anywhere) and the desire that everything would be worse for a neighbor. Better to burn his house than build your own steeper! This is the national Russian idea. They say they can’t find her. But she is. Here she is!

      It was written by Russian, not me))) Excerpt from the article


      I'm not going to make excuses, but this nonsense to read? Little Russia, Belarus and Great Russia are one people.

      Yes, as if they lived well with the Kazakhs.
    6. +4
      6 December 2013 15: 34
      It was not Russian that was written, but a good one. Russian would never begin to humiliate so not himself and not Ukrainians. fool
    7. 0
      6 December 2013 19: 32
      Repeat - uncle piglet ..... (excerpt from a nursery rhyme)))))))
  37. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    +4
    6 December 2013 12: 14
    Hoping to be grantososy and cho in the end -! And look, on-line: "WE HAVE GOTTEN TO WAIT WHEN WE WILL SAVE"
  38. Peaceful military
    +6
    6 December 2013 12: 40
    DELFI in Kiev: Urmas Paet gave an interview in the middle of the camp at "Euromaidan"
    http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/estonia/delfi-v-kieve-urmas-paet-dal-intervyu-posredi-
    lagerya-na-evromajdane.d? id = 67391818
    What is this individual doing there? Who invited him? Can you imagine how much the stink would be there if the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia, or Belarus?
  39. +2
    6 December 2013 12: 49
    Here you are, comrades and the European choice!

    It's sad to read all this ...

    The economies of all Eastern European states collapsed (maybe, with the exception of the Czech Republic).

    And they (Poland, the Baltic states, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc.) so wanted this!

    However, they asked, they wanted to - get it, sign it.

    I will not be surprised if homosexual marriages are legalized in these countries soon ...
  40. +38
    6 December 2013 12: 55
    from the last interview with Slobodan Milosevic
    1. Clegg
      -3
      6 December 2013 14: 11
      Why did the most pro-Russian politician from the Serbs, Tomislav Nikolic, after coming to power, forget about you?
      1. 11111mail.ru
        +1
        6 December 2013 19: 12
        Quote: Clegg
        Why did the most pro-Russian politician from the Serbs, Tomislav Nikolic, after coming to power, forget about you?

        For some reason, all politicians after coming to power are preoccupied with other problems! It would be interesting from you to hear how Nursultan Abishevich made happy the peoples and nationalities living in Kazakhstan? After all, he certainly cares day and night for his beloved Kazakh people?
        1. Clegg
          0
          7 December 2013 00: 33
          Do you think I'm a fan of Nazarbayev? No, he must leave. I do not like his politics, and especially his foreign policy. Too close to you.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            +1
            7 December 2013 11: 12
            Quote: Clegg
            Too close to you.

            N.A. Nazarbayev pursues a foreign policy based on the interests of your country. If your interests do not coincide with the state line - these are your problems! You have the right. Russians and Kazakhs are better friends (after all, Russians are the second largest in your country).
            1. Clegg
              +1
              7 December 2013 12: 55
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              N.A. Nazarbayev pursues a foreign policy based on the interests of your country.

              Khan Nazarbay pursues a policy based on the interests of his pocket and the pocket of his people. The policy pursued by Nazarbay has nothing to do with the interests of the Kazakh national state.

              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              Russians and Kazakhs are better friends (after all, Russians are the second largest in your country).

              There is no friendship, love, etc. between peoples and countries, this is nonsense. Friendship, love, etc. is between people
              1. 11111mail.ru
                0
                7 December 2013 21: 19
                Quote: Clegg
                Friendship, love, etc. is between people

                Well, love someone! Obama for example.
      2. 0
        6 December 2013 19: 55
        Jeśli cena sprzedaży zwierzę. Zgubić, nie maliny powietrze swoim zapachem nie wykształcony przekupny i dobra nie wspomina
        1. 11111mail.ru
          0
          7 December 2013 21: 16
          Quote: I am
          i dobra nie wspomina

          Yak Polish there, has it not perished yet?
  41. +5
    6 December 2013 13: 02
    Quote: - ......... only the European Union has not entered us
    Here it is that he has entered you, to the very peppers!
    1. +1
      7 December 2013 00: 32
      Quote: Bort Radist
      he then entered you, to the very chillies!

      And the pregnancy goes well.
      Soon either childbirth or the dead will fall out ......
      й
  42. +4
    6 December 2013 13: 11
    These stories will not help. For them, despite all the facts and arguments, like our liberals, they have one answer: this is Surkov’s propaganda. The dog understands that you can’t run across the road without looking, only after it gets under the car. Then she starts whining and snapping. Or just tightens the tail.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 18: 24
      Some, who were just intimidated, begin to catch up and try to bite the wheel, or tear the number with their teeth.
  43. +3
    6 December 2013 13: 28
    Of course, it’s a pity to Bulgaria. But when did she-Bulgaria live differently? When did the USSR feed it?
    As for electricity - that’s how she lives on an imported one, she hardly produces it herself. Yes, and in fact I felt uneasy when an Israeli resident was worried that the heat from the refrigerator caused a lot of electricity, which was expensive and it was in a prosperous country.

    And does anyone really think that if Bulgaria didn’t join the EU, would it be better?
    Unfortunately, capitalism is ruthless.
  44. +3
    6 December 2013 13: 31
    I guess I'm an evil person. A nation living only with hopes that when they feel completely bad, Russia will come and save them, and then they will "throw" it once again - is doomed. no pity. there were "brothers", but they all came out.
  45. +3
    6 December 2013 13: 39
    Brothers were torn, torn, that’s what they got!
    And NATO is getting closer. Bases in Ukraine, too, they would be good to fuck.
    There is not only economic or political kneading, here they have very far-reaching plans!
    Then they will have a lie! And the corridor to Georgia, to Central Asia.
    They are in a hurry to get out there before China grabs everything in this region.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 16: 14
      Quote: Dan Slav
      And the corridor to Georgia, to Central Asia.

      Why does NATO need another "corridor to Georgia" if they already border on it? Turkey is a NATO member. And Ukraine does not border on Georgia. And Georgia has no meaning for NATO. Otherwise, they would not have handed it over in 2008, as unnecessary trash.
      And why is NATO a corridor to Central Asia if they already have troops in Afghanistan? And how can one get through Ukraine to Central Asia? From Ukraine to Central Asia - a pair of tire mounts on the map ...
      1. 0
        7 December 2013 15: 40
        It seems to me that Turkey is such a frail corridor for NATO. The Turks themselves would like to play an independent role in the region. It may be the hands and capabilities of NATO.
        Well, Afghanistan must be supplied through Russia and Central Asia. This is not even a springboard, but a pain point that constantly requires attention and strength.
        Kiev and Georgia, nevertheless, against the backdrop of Afghanistan, stable, quiet areas within reach.
        And so that the enemy (Russia) did not get it.
        IMHO!
  46. Grandfather Vlasov
    -2
    6 December 2013 13: 47
    Let them climb out of the pit into which they climbed. Bulgaria has always been the poorest Slavic country.
  47. +4
    6 December 2013 14: 47
    Geyropeysky and Amerikosovskie concerns do not forgive such a lot of money in advertising democracy. And Ukraine turns out to have not forgotten how. It is clear why the agreement with the EU so worries Americans, they lose the market that was almost in their pocket. They have divided everything for a long time.
  48. -2
    6 December 2013 14: 59
    Article minus. I'm not interested in knowing how bell peppers live in the EU now (let them feel nostalgic for the USSR) and it is not clear why to write "especially for Ukraine". Let the hohly go get burned and understand on their own skin that they went in the wrong place. Crimea and the eastern part have always been, is and will be pro-Russian. That's when factories, enterprises, etc. begin to close, that's when they will finally come to their senses and kick out the traitors from the government and knock on us, themselves ... on the bent ones. Give them "freedom", do not bother them, including with such little articles.
    1. Ustas77
      -6
      6 December 2013 15: 54
      I am from the East. We are not pro-Russian. Do not flatter yourself.
      1. 0
        6 December 2013 23: 59
        Of course you tried, but wrote huetu
  49. +3
    6 December 2013 15: 21
    Yanukovych is selling. With his submission, all this shitty mess with the European Union was brewed. And now back down, like it's not profitable for us, the Europeans want to "throw" us! And when he pulled the country into this Euro swamp, did not he understand the obvious? Before talking, you moron!
    It seems to me that way, though, maybe I'm not quite right.
    1. -1
      7 December 2013 00: 22
      Quote: Galich Kos
      Before talking, you jerk!


      however, this moron was supported by Russia and those in power when the moron was eager for power.
      1. +1
        10 December 2013 16: 17
        What a bad fashion. How boiling which one is Russia to blame! Russia did not support him so that he would pull his sting to Europe. If the Ukrainian president behaves like a saleswoman, whoever pays the most will do so, then to Russia, what questions may there be?
        1. bwo
          bwo
          0
          12 December 2013 22: 50
          Before supporting, understand XU from XU.
          He’s Zek in the presidency of ZK.
  50. garlik
    +1
    6 December 2013 15: 30
    Here is an article about the so-called "titushki" http://kornilov.name/evrozveri-anatomiya-proevropeyskogo-bespredela/
  51. 0
    6 December 2013 15: 45
    I wonder who put the downvote? probably maydowns laughing
  52. Ustas77
    -14
    6 December 2013 15: 53
    But even Bulgaria is not at all striving to join the Taiga Union.
    They understand that it's a complete mess.
    And they are not shouting about leaving the EU.

    Very similar to a Soviet fairy tale about the decaying West. Who is author? Clown Lentyev?
    1. +5
      6 December 2013 16: 36
      Quote: Ustas77
      But even Bulgaria is not at all striving to join the Taiga Union.

      Was she invited there?
    2. 11111mail.ru
      +1
      6 December 2013 19: 16
      Quote: Ustas77
      But even Bulgaria is not at all striving to join the Taiga Union.

      According to the joke, it’s just the opposite: she was already in the SS, so she’s not needed in the CP.
  53. +1
    6 December 2013 16: 01
    Quote: Sandov
    Westerners rule the roost

    If you mean Galicia, then this is 11% of the population of Ukraine.
    If we add the rest of the western regions to Galicia, it will be 27%. Not even a third is gained.
    There is no need to reduce Russophobia in Ukraine exclusively to the western regions. And Yushchenko is not a “Western”, and Kuchma, and Petliura was not one either.
  54. +2
    6 December 2013 16: 09
    work
    Quote: Clegg
    Clegg KZ Today, 12:14

    Now the Russian people are massively dreaming that Ukraine will live in the same shit as Russia. Sometimes this dream is formulated in beautiful and smart words. More often than just insults. They say that Ukrainians have not yet grown up, they are climbing across the dad, nobody needs them in Europe, they will all use them and almost rape them in the literal sense of the word.

    Russia is the first! Russia is the best! And Ukraine is the backyard. Russians like to compare it with Albania, Moldova, Romania. Like, those, like Ukraine, are underdeveloped. And Ukraine will be in their company. In all of this there is a mixture of two things: envy (nobody calls Russia anywhere) and the desire that everything would be worse for a neighbor. Better to burn his house than build your own steeper! This is the national Russian idea. They say they can’t find her. But she is. Here she is!

    It was written by Russian, not me))) Excerpt from the article

    This was written by frostbitten Russophobe, common man Kirill Shchelkov
    this is what he writes about himself
    26/11/2013
    Days when it's a shame to be Russian
    The adequacy of Russian citizens can be tested by their attitude to what is happening in Ukraine
    Kirill Shchelkov
    Kirill Shchelkov
    OTHER ARTICLES BY THE AUTHOR
    You will answer for the whore!
    The Soviet herd is ready to start
    Who stuck out of the hole there?
    Wherever you spit, Serebrennikov is everywhere
    The Smell of the Motherland and Blumenthal's Manifesto

    I wanted to write about dogs today, so that there would be something kind, pure, bright, that does not cause controversy, discussion and mutual sending to the male genital organ!

    There will be no dogs. There will be Ukraine!

    I am a citizen of Russia. According to your passport. I haven’t lived in Russia for a long time. Am I Russian? Russian is my language, I have many friends from Russia, I love Russian films (some) and books. In this regard, I am Russian.

    I don’t miss birch trees. I don't give a damn about them. My friend Stepan said: “An alarming symptom.”

    Do I love Putin? Russian rotten and wretched government? Idiot deputies, zombie people who dream not of their own well-being, but of killing Caucasians, fagots and various liberals? Arrogant Russian emigrants who believe that they should not assimilate, but should adapt to them? I hate it. So, I'm not Russian. And even a Russophobe.
    source http://www.art-blog.com.ua/articles/?id=71
    1. kaktus
      +2
      6 December 2013 16: 43
      +5 to you, and let the author drink poison! wassat
  55. Ustas77
    -5
    6 December 2013 16: 10
    In our country, we ourselves want to rule the roost, dear. Without smart people from the north and leaders from overseas. Get up from your knees first, become a world economy, become a superpower, then you will be smart and explain.
    Don’t meddle with your charters in other people’s monasteries.
    1. +4
      6 December 2013 16: 21
      Quote: Ustas77
      In our country, we ourselves want to rule the roost, dear.

      I will believe this if your external debt begins to decrease even a little. For now, there are no prerequisites for this.
      You will never rule the roost in your own country; you have no more chance for this than Moldova or Armenia. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter. I’m not interfering with your monastery; my own is enough for me. But that doesn't mean someone else won't fit in. You will still be someone's controlled territory, simply due to the laws of nature and economics.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      +1
      6 December 2013 19: 29
      Quote: Ustas77
      then you will be clever and explain

      Let me explain to you: to explain (but not to explain) is to engage in buffoonery.

      Quote: Ustas77
      world economics


      What is this, Okonomics, and even global economics? Eye in Russian is eye. Nomos in Greek means “something taken, formed, ordered, organized.” Did you mean ophthalmology?

      Quote: Ustas77
      Don’t meddle with your charters in other people’s monasteries.


      Apply to yourself first. Learn to speak and write words correctly first.
    3. -1
      6 December 2013 19: 58
      flaga w ręce!!! Tylko my granicę zamknięcie i gaz nie sprzedamy.
    4. retvizan
      0
      7 December 2013 00: 59
      want to rule the roost in this so-called country? so let's hold a referendum and see what we want. a bunch of Westerners on the Maidan are not all of us
  56. Peaceful military
    +1
    6 December 2013 16: 11
    In a "pancake" ... Ruslana threatens to burn herself on the Maidan if the demands of the protesters are not met
    http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/abroad/ruslana-grozit-szhech-sebya-na-majdane-esli-tre
    bovaniya-mitinguyuschih-ne-budut-vypolneny.d? id = 67394706 fool
    1. kaktus
      +6
      6 December 2013 16: 44
      Don't bother her
      1. +2
        6 December 2013 17: 10
        Quote: kaktus
        Don't bother her

        It’s not a sin to help such an impulse of the soul! I can suggest charming napalm. Inexpensive... feel
        1. +2
          6 December 2013 20: 00
          fiiiiii. napalm is so cute)))) show some sympathy!!!! Treat these comrades for free))))))))
        2. bwo
          bwo
          0
          12 December 2013 22: 56
          I have no doubt that you have a lot of this goodness. Do you work at a napalm factory?
    2. +2
      6 December 2013 17: 04
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Ruslana threatens to burn herself on the Maidan if the demands of the protesters are not met
      Stupid...they won’t appreciate it, and there will still be those of her “companions” who will warm their chilled hands over her burning body.
  57. +2
    6 December 2013 16: 17
    [quote=IOwTZ] and they will knock on our door, themselves... half-bent.
    The desire to look down on your (half-bent over) brothers is some kind of TERRIBLE crap (((, this is something “unconscious” (from S. Freud), i.e. You were either kissed a little in childhood or, on the contrary, “kissed”, " unconscious" devil whose life has been beaten and humiliated since childhood ((((
    immediately blacklisted like this - God is the judge
  58. Troy
    +1
    6 December 2013 16: 36
    Quote: Peaceful military
    In a "pancake" ... Ruslana threatens to burn herself on the Maidan if the demands of the protesters are not met
    http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/abroad/ruslana-grozit-szhech-sebya-na-majdane-esli-tre

    bovaniya-mitinguyuschih-ne-budut-vypolneny.d? id = 67394706 fool

    For God's sake! It’s better to fence off the entire Maidan and burn it down.
    1. +2
      6 December 2013 16: 42
      Quote: Troy
      For God's sake! It’s better to fence off the entire Maidan and burn it down.

      Well, why do that? Let them live. They don't bother me at all. Sometimes it’s even interesting to look at this circus.
  59. their
    +1
    6 December 2013 16: 45
    Quote: f4b2
    We have already let go of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, the Baltic states ...
    Also were all so national of themselves.

    They talked about a national breakthrough in a separate and terribly now independent state.

    The result is visible for a long time. And with the naked eye.


    Against this background, Kazakhstan looks decent and is not completely dependent on Russia. Still, GDP per year per capita is 40% lower than Russia’s. There are not millions of guest workers, and the investment balance between countries is reversed. Kazakhstan invested more money in Russia in 2013.
  60. +1
    6 December 2013 16: 47
    IN NO WAY YANUKOVYCH BENDED... BUT HE EVEN INVITED TO Kyiv ON A VISIT!
    China has made it clear that it does not intend to provide additional financial assistance to Ukraine. The question about the possibility of new loans to the republic was asked today at a briefing at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China, but the official representative of the department, Hong Lei, avoided a direct answer, notes Reuters.
    The day before, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych arrived in China on a state visit. Ukrainian media write that he came “to ask for new loans.” Let us recall that $10 billion has already been provided to Kyiv since last year.
    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/economics/04/12/2013/892853.shtml

  61. +4
    6 December 2013 17: 23
    Having read the entire article and the comments to it, I come to the conclusion that Russia should urgently buy up technology all over the world, urgently revive agriculture, gather the peoples who have not yet been deceived and urgently, URGENTLY erect an iron curtain!
    It feels like the apocalypse is just around the corner....... the second flood is approaching, and Russia will be Noah's ark.
  62. +1
    6 December 2013 17: 34
    I didn’t see the most important thing: what do the Bulgarian comrades present at the forum think about all this?
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 17: 46
      Yes, they don’t think anything. They are chomping in their pigsty that the gentlemen from Brussels will throw it in. Let them chom on further. Soon they will stop self-identifying. There was a smart guy from Bulgaria here on the site. Maybe he will appear?
  63. Kopeck
    +23
    6 December 2013 17: 46
    Hello.

    If you allow me, I’ll explain a little what’s what here in Bulgaria.
    Regarding the article, it appeared recently and has already been shown on several resources.
    In principle, everything described in it is, to a greater or lesser extent, true.
    Regarding vegetables, I can confirm to you that if you want to buy good ones, prepare 3-4 leva per kilogram of tomatoes (those that have a taste). You understand that with a minimum salary of 270 levs, few people buy this. The rest, which cost 1-2... are rubber.

    Let's move on to the housing and communal services tariffs. My personal consumption was less than all the tariffs and taxes that are added to the bill. It really was funny. Example - the bill is 90 levs. 50+ of them are taxes and additional tariffs, the rest is really how much energy you used.
    What was sold to whom is not important (I mean, now and not in principle) But in reality, as it was before, it was an ass (infrastructure, garbage collection, etc.) and so it remained. Several highways have been added that are already being repaired.... It will take too long to describe everything, and I probably won’t be able to describe everything.
    As the comrade above put it, in the outback, there is simply total degradation, I mean, towns with a population of 10 thousand, and in the villages, simply, without comment. The people themselves are already kind of evil, I personally am 25 years old and among my peers there are still normal people with whom you can communicate and those with whom you should be friends, but in general, the population (both older and younger) is in total depression and is simply doesn't know what or where he wants.
    The main thing is that everyone looks at you, either with an angry look (like, why are you looking at me, I would like you... well, you understand) or looking very sadly at the point.
    Another thing is that everyone is lazy and everyone is waiting for happiness to just come to them from somewhere.... I personally have been working since I was 16 years old, but I have friends (one of my former co-tenants) who for 4 years while we have been together lived, never looked for a job, but had the audacity to complain... that’s how Bulgarians are now, I mean, a lot of them, of course there are exceptions.
    If you come, then only to the sea or to the mountains (in Bulgaria the weather is incredible, in places where it has not yet been trashed).
    You can drive through Sofia to see what the European capital looks like.
    Please excuse the vagueness. Good luck everyone :)

    I doubt that everyone in Ukraine will be happy if they join the European Union. This is just ridiculous and I hope that people will not fall for this.


    Sincerely
    1. 0
      6 December 2013 17: 58
      Quote: Kopek
      The main thing is that everyone looks at you, either with an angry look (like, why are you looking at me, I would like you... well, you understand) or looking very sadly at the point.
      Another thing is that everyone is lazy and everyone is waiting for happiness to just come to them from somewhere....

      Unfortunately, there are enough of these in Russia too.
      Some of them unsubscribe here on the forum. They usually suggest “shooting everyone.”
      And this is precisely our main problem. The rest are derivatives of it.
    2. +1
      6 December 2013 18: 07
      I DO NOT BELIEVE! This is all a provocation of the FSB! Are our Ukrainian friends true?
  64. +1
    6 December 2013 18: 34
    Joining the EU is easy, as they say with euphoria, but getting out of this sadistic nightmare will not be possible without the blood of ordinary people, believe me, the West and the United States are far from Russia.
  65. +1
    6 December 2013 19: 04
    If a person - this is for a long time. And if a democrat - forever.
    Apparently there are too many democrats in Ukraine.
  66. 11111mail.ru
    +1
    6 December 2013 19: 42
    It’s sad, I remember T.S. Shaov’s “39,1”:

    Heap of garbage smells, a bully tormenting a dog ...
    Is this what life teaches us?
    Yes, she does not teach anything!
  67. +3
    6 December 2013 20: 08
    Quote from another forum (a resident of Ukraine writes):
    "Kolyan locksmith

    Nothing special)) In the city everything is as usual, ordinary life goes on everywhere, but I have never been in the center. I actually found out about all this crap by chance, there was a TV in the kiosk, and that’s where the news was broadcast))

    Ordinary people, for the most part, don’t really care. We’re already used to it, now one rally and then another, either for Yulka, or for the language, or for Europe. Well, think about it, would a normal person go to a rally and go to a rally not even for something specific, such as salaries, benefits, taxes, but for the sake of some kind of Europe? That’s how it was at first until 30/11 - well, they gathered the ideologically crazy people from the grave, gave lavender to the infantry (price 100 UAH/2 hours), brought people from the west to the capital to see, called a rally, and shouted. PR responded by collecting her own. So everything would have died down - they yelled and parted ways, well, with that Europe, but someone needed to get the ball rolling and Berkut was given the order to brutally crush them. and a mess began to swirl in the center.

    and then everyone got pissed. and Yanyk, who leaked his own cops (who were simply following orders), and three clowns (like, this is not us, this is not us, then finally we are provocateurs and we are peaceful rabbits). From somewhere there came foreign nits that began to untwist everything. Right now everything has calmed down and gone as usual - bullshit on TV, journalists being hysterical, round tables and other political nonsense. In short, nothing like this will happen.

    Yanyk pissed and threw. It’s okay to cheat voters, they’re all like that. But he cheated and dumped the security forces, the cops, whose golden eagles have now been made extreme. He would like to really restore order; he would have done so long ago.

    Ocia is a circus of freaks. As soon as the movement started, it was like we have nothing to do with it.

    People don't care. Well, discuss in the smoking room and after 100 grams for politics and that’s it. No one will really go for Yanyk or the opps."

    So, something doesn’t add up between what’s on TV and what’s written here.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 23: 00
      I ask my brother, did you go to the rally?
      When I go, who will Julia do the work for me?
    2. +2
      7 December 2013 11: 00
      Another quote: "Kolyan is a mechanic

      I climbed around the center, was in the Kiev City Council. City Hall is like a train station in a regional center: a shelter, a canteen, a shelter, crowds of people. Face control at the entrance. The inscription at the entrance "Popov -" (this is true)))

      The impressions are different. Firstly, the topic of Europe and finally “where to join or not” is not in the first place (as it was at first), the main thing is “Yanyk poshol nah”.

      Secondly, oppo-clowns are not in authority. That is, they can drive something and push into the microphone, but they don’t look at them like Yusch in 2004. and that’s right...

      Thirdly, there are a lot of people from the right movement, and they are ready to repeat the power option. Few people like cops anyway, but here’s another reason.

      The general impression is that the moment has been missed. If there is no bullshit again, from either side, everything will probably calm down. he knows what Yanyk will (not) agree on with the entire European community, oppas, Gazprom and the Chinese.

      PS. Popov is the mayor of Kyiv."
  68. Stasi
    +1
    6 December 2013 20: 28
    Yes, Bulgaria is a good country, as it is sung in one song. We had the same situation in the dashing 90s, when half the country shuttled to earn a living. I wonder if the Alyosha monument has survived in Bulgaria? They say that it was also demolished, like many other monuments to Soviet soldiers. Are Bulgarians Russophiles? These Russophiles twice took the side of the enemy in the First and Second World Wars, against Russia. And when NATO was tormenting Yugoslavia, Bulgaria did not make the slightest attempt to stand up for it. As for Ukraine, sooner or later Ukrainians will understand everything and make their own choice about how and with whom to live. Let them choose.
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 21: 12
      Have you lost your mind? (no offense). Would Bulgaria have gotten into a fight for Yugoslavia? --- When Russia refused and dumped a friend. Who were and are we and who are they? By the way, give an example when Bulgarian military units entered direct combat with Soviet units
    2. +1
      6 December 2013 22: 35
      Quote: Stasi
      And when NATO was tormenting Yugoslavia, Bulgaria did not make the slightest attempt to stand up for it.

      It’s an understatement to say that Bulgaria did not allow the Russians through its territory, but Yugoslavia could have been defended.
      1. retvizan
        0
        7 December 2013 00: 33
        Who would defend this, Boris Nikolaevich? not funny at all. we ourselves were a little better than Bulgaria back then
      2. Stasi
        0
        8 December 2013 11: 35
        Of course, it was possible to protect Yugoslavia. This required will. But our then-alconaut president had no will; he was an obedient puppet in the hands of the Americans. If he decided to lead a different line, the Yankees blocked all the accounts belonging to his Family and property in the West. This is the reason for the surrender of Yugoslavia. To the credit of the Russians, many of our volunteers fought on the side of the Serbs. They repeatedly suggested to the Serbs: “Let’s blow up NATO airfields and bases, hangars with airplanes and barracks with pilots. After all, we have gone through so many wars from Afghanistan to Chechnya, we have a lot of experience.” But the Serbs always refused, saying that we are not aggressors and are fighting in a civilized manner. But if the Serbs decided to start a sabotage war, they could thus give NATO an asymmetrical response. But even without this, Milosevic could have won: the Serbs were already close to finishing off the Kosovars. But the West threatened Milosevic to confiscate the accounts that belonged to him. And Milosevic surrendered. The result is known to everyone.
      3. mnn_13
        +1
        8 December 2013 23: 14
        If Bulgaria had not been sold and abandoned by those who sold and abandoned both the USSR and Russia, then everything that happened in Yugoslavia would not have happened.
        The most interesting question is how did it happen that traitors to the system managed to reach the highest level of power? One explanation is that the Soviet centralized system of government suffered from a systematic tendency towards gerontocratization and in the last years of the USSR it was completely gerontocratized. But is this the only reason?
  69. fumanchu
    +1
    6 December 2013 20: 32
    Of course, it’s a little dramatic, but generally correct.
    The fact that qualified Bulgarians work as laborers is not true. Well, where does this even happen?

    A stream of gypsies and prostitutes poured mainly to the west from Bulgaria. In Germany, for example, they were faced with a serious problem of what to do with these scumbags. They steal, rob, deceive social services. system and cover entire areas.
    It seems to be tolerance, etc., but people still grumble. It has already been prohibited to use the word gypsy in any combination. It's going to be absurd. For example, “Gypsy chops”, or “Zigeunerschnitzel”, were renamed.

    But normal Bulgarians have no problems with integration. Especially doctors or engineers.

    But the butt in Bulgaria is complete. That's for sure.
  70. retvizan
    +5
    6 December 2013 21: 51
    In general, it’s written very truthfully, I know it first-hand and not from the media. My friends live in Sofia, so in the capital the average salary is 600 leva, i.e. approximately 400 dollars. it's in the capital. you can imagine what is going on in the provinces. There are practically no villages left. in stores - Italian grapes, Danish milk, etc. But for some reason our Ukrainian European integrators always forget about the example of Bulgaria and point to Poland...
    1. +1
      6 December 2013 23: 39
      Poland was “elected” as a gendarme, they are entitled to rations....
  71. +1
    6 December 2013 22: 13
    Especially for Ukraine. It is better to see once ... How Bulgaria dies in the arms of Eurosodom

    I WILL SIGN UNDER EVERY WORD IN THE ARTICLE!!!
    At the moment, Ukraine is being sold to Europe and there can be no talk of integrating vassal and master.
  72. +1
    6 December 2013 22: 27
    In short, guys, you know what I’ll tell you --- I have a woman, my first (truly) love in Minsk. I still communicate with her - What did she tell me? - Even if our salary is not the same as in Russia, but we We see what happened to you and we don’t want this(!). Let the Ukrainians go wherever they want, when they leave, they’ll understand, they’ll come to their senses, they’ll come! This is the honest truth! These are Irka’s words! Although they also have well-fed “oppositionists”
  73. retvizan
    +1
    6 December 2013 23: 29
    Now, if Lukashenko really appeared on the Ukrainian political horizon, no Euromaidan would be comparable to the support of such a leader, everyone has already been driven to the extreme in this country. the trouble is that the Akhmetovs and Firtashs won’t allow anyone anywhere near the feeding trough
  74. +2
    6 December 2013 23: 36
    “Over the past 20 years, 2 million people have left the country. The country has lost more people than in two world wars, but this is not the limit.”

    Apocalypse. Planned and clearly verified, Apocalypse.
    1. mnn_13
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      8 December 2013 23: 18
      A well thought out plan for the destruction of the Slavic and Orthodox elements in Bulgaria with the subsequent destruction of the state and annexation to Turkey.
  75. 0
    7 December 2013 00: 25
    For centuries, the Bulgarians sat and waited for freedom, the Bulgarians are now sitting and waiting for things to get better. It’s not surprising that the bell peppers disappeared. But didn’t the fellow Bulgarians try to work?
    1. retvizan
      +2
      7 December 2013 01: 30
      Bulgarians are hardworking people. What do I mean by work, work, and not selling oranges
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  77. HF
    +2
    7 December 2013 00: 30
    I probably won’t say anything new, but I’ll still quote the words of an intelligent and wise man:
    "Thoughts of the great Russian writer from the diary of 1877.
    According to my inner conviction, the most complete and irresistible, Russia will not, and never has had, such haters, envious people, slanderers and even outright enemies as all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them as liberated ...

    After their release, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely by asking themselves to be given the pledge and protection of their freedom from Europe, England and Germany, and even Russia will be in a concert of European powers, but they will protection from Russia and will do it.

    They will certainly begin by declaring to themselves, if not directly out loud, that they do not owe Russia the slightest gratitude; on the contrary, that they were barely saved from Russia’s lust for power at the conclusion of peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not if Europe had intervened, Russia would have swallowed them immediately, “meaning the expansion of borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs to the greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe”...

    It will be especially pleasant for the liberated Slavs to express and trumpet the whole world that they are educated tribes capable of the highest European culture, while Russia is a barbaric country, gloomy northern colossus, not even pure Slavic blood, persecutor and hater of European civilization ...

    These people of the earth will forever quarrel among themselves, forever envy each other and intrigue against each other. Of course, in a moment of some serious trouble, they will all certainly turn to Russia for help. No matter how they hate, gossip and slander us to Europe, flirting with it and assuring it of love, they will always feel instinctively (of course, in a moment of trouble, and not before) that Europe is the natural enemy of their unity, was and will always remain so, and that if they exist in the world, it is, of course, because there is a huge magnet - Russia, which, irresistibly attracting them all to itself, there holds back their integrity and unity."
  78. fedval7560
    +1
    7 December 2013 13: 56
    We need to scatter copies of this article in leaflets over the Maidan. It would be nice to read in our universities and schools. It is necessary to kick out the idealization of the EU and the endless criticism of Russia.
    1. Jeremy Xren
      +1
      10 December 2013 16: 08
      Believe me, no one is touching your Russia, who told you that? From your screens they pour worse dirt on Ukraine.
  79. +2
    7 December 2013 14: 23
    I subscribe to every word of the article. For several years he regularly visited Bulgaria. Traveled all over the country from west to east. I have been to both big cities (Sofia, Plovdiv, Burgas, Varna) and small towns and villages. I communicated with many Bulgarians through work. It’s really not easy for them to live. Those factories that were not sold to foreign companies either no longer exist or are barely surviving, and even then in those places where it is unprofitable for “enlightened” Europe to get to. The only thing they did was the roads. But I cannot say that Bulgarians really love Russians. The relationship is just like ours between our own. In the years after the collapse of the USSR, our mafia still distinguished itself there, so there is no special love.
    If older people remember the Russian language, then young people, mostly, no longer know it, and have no desire to learn it. The most desired job is a manager in a foreign company somewhere in Sofia. No one is optimistic about the future of the country.
  80. +1
    7 December 2013 15: 59
    With this approach of Europe and the USA, they can completely arrange a fun life like they arranged for us in Chechnya. 60% unemployment, people want to eat. Give them only MANPADS, ATGMs and a machine gun and they will go take theirs from the same French. And Europe will already begin to flood them with money, just so that they calm down. Sooner or later, the right person will appear. Yes, and for us such fin. Eurolord losses are very profitable.

    Personally, I don't feel too sorry for them. You must have your own head on your shoulders. It’s not like Ivan is carrying everything on himself, either the Russian Empire or the USSR, and when he gets tired, everything falls apart. I think our people at the top think the same about this whole thing. There is some kind of sadistic pleasure in watching fascist Estonians die from their own stupidity.
  81. rocketman
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    7 December 2013 17: 53
    I think the article is 100% true. It’s just not clear where the cons came from
  82. +1
    7 December 2013 19: 59
    “According to sociological surveys, 70% of the Bulgarian population are Russophiles, but at the same time Russia lost the political and media battle in Bulgaria. Paradox!
    But why do we have to constantly “fight” with someone, for Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, etc., we have already gone through this. And to Europe you ran ahead of the locomotive with curses against Russia. But now, our brothers, we will wait for you to turn 180 degrees just as together.
  83. +3
    8 December 2013 13: 21
    The article is good and not only Bulgarians should think about it. You might think that all other countries are not rushing to join the same European Union. Russia joined the WTO like it was a pile of crap. And this is even worse than European integration. All former republics also look in the same direction. For everyone, the sun rises in the West.

    Only the Iron Curtain can save us all. Nationalization of all resources and sales abroad only according to quotas and for gold. No dollars, euros or yuan. Cancellation of the free circulation of the dollar in the country. Cancellation of the exchange rate for ruble, manat, som, etc.

    But this requires enormous political will and determination. And we need a strong army. Because the war will start immediately. Small or big, it will begin. These are all methods of destroying the Western economic model.

    There is nowhere to retreat. We all have our backs against the wall and have to make a choice.

    PS Today I read that following the results of the plane crash in Kazan, the Russian Prime Minister said that it is necessary to invite experienced Western pilots. During the disaster in Ulyanovsk, he said that it was necessary to buy Boeings and Airbuses. And now he wants to invite pilots. The Russian Prime Minister under no circumstances wants to have either a good aviation industry or good pilots in Russia. The article for treason against the Motherland is literally written on his forehead.

    PPS Bulgarian saw in Malta in the dock. All laborers were from Bulgaria. They will never return to themselves. And this was 2006.
  84. +1
    8 December 2013 15: 19
    Smart people learn from other people's mistakes, fools from their own, but they learn nothing at all. Let's see who will be who later.
  85. +3
    8 December 2013 18: 20
    In Lithuania, everything is the same, some are brainwashed and are not allowed to think logically, other puppets carry out tasks, others, having escaped from the impossibility of living, wash pots, and others are trying to make ends meet without the prospect that anyone will hear them. But in general, sobering up is coming slowly.
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  87. slybeast
    +1
    10 December 2013 13: 12
    Bulgaria should take the initiative in relation to Russia to conclude agreements in terms of economic cooperation, for example, to buy the same tomatoes or bell peppers from them, which is bad, and then establish cultural cooperation and you see, the people themselves will throw off their Western nesting dolls. and maybe it will be possible to snatch this country from the clutches of the ESE
    1. TT68
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      11 December 2013 15: 03
      And Bulgaria is a member of the European Union and, according to the obligations it has assumed, does not have the right to subsidize agricultural producers, which makes OUR tomatoes, peppers, parsley and so on more expensive than those from Turkey, Poland, Greece, even Egypt. So, the market economy dictates who will buy what and from where, and here Bulgaria’s initiative is useless!
  88. Jeremy Xren
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    10 December 2013 16: 06
    Oh, Kisilev has washed your brains! Why are you all clinging to gays? All of Europe is gay! Is there really nothing more to learn from Europe? There are problems everywhere. The people of Ukraine are tired of what is happening in the country. What about in Russia? Yes, the same thing: corruption and theft! Moscow and St. Petersburg were given to the blacks. Plus Putin’s long-term “brotherly” policy towards Ukraine. So the last hope remains for Europe, maybe they will teach at least something.
    1. Chemicalin23
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      11 December 2013 10: 59
      I fully support it! We cannot restore order in our country, but we are still trying to teach others how to live correctly. These “others” have their own heads and there is no need to impose your will on them. And if you want to restore order in your country, do everything humanely, follow the laws, migration legislation, fight corruption, start building roads cheaper than in Germany, and much more, it’s impossible to list them all at once...
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        11 December 2013 11: 08
        Quote: Chemicalalin23
        These “others” have their own heads and there is no need to impose your will on them

        In general, I agree with everything that has been said, except for one thing - we should not be indifferent to what and how in countries bordering us, only the policy and work there should be very reasonable, careful, active... and pragmatic. And in relation to Ukraine , we must also add “over”...
  89. TT68
    +1
    11 December 2013 13: 48
    Greetings from Bulgaria! I came across the site a little by accident, but it became interesting!
    The article is 100% correct. But I registered to respond to those who accuse Bulgaria of betraying Russia. First of all: Yes, Russia liberated Bulgaria from the Turkish yoke. But were it only Russian soldiers who liberated us? Here we talked about Shipka. There, the main burden was borne by the BULGARIAN MILITICIANS, under the command of General Stoletov. The same thing in the battles near Stara Zagora - the rank and file - BULGARIAN MILITICIANS and the Russian commanders. So, a lot of Bulgarian blood was shed for the Liberation.
    However, at the Berlin Conference, as a result of the war, RUSSIAN DIPLOMACY FAILED what the Russian, Finnish, Romanian and BULGARIAN soldiers shed their blood for, allowing the British, Austrians, French and other European civilizers to gut and divide the country into two dwarf states, the VASAL of Turkey!
    And that’s nothing else! When in 1885 the Bulgarian people announced the Union of Bulgaria, the Russian Emperor declared AGAINST!!!
    Later, when Serbia attacked the young Bulgarian state, Russia FORBIDDEN Russian officers serving in the Bulgarian army from helping ours. And the war was won by the young CAPTAINS without a single battle behind them.
    The same thing happened in the Balkan War of 1912-13. Russia is again working AGAINST Bulgaria.
    The First World War follows. Guess which side Bulgaria will fight on!
    Still, a notorious Russophile like Radko Dimitriev, the former Chief of the General Staff, goes into Russian service and fights under the command of General Brusilov. For which he was shot after the Revolution.
    World War II. Despite the allied obligations and the harsh onslaught from Hitler (as a result, Tsar Boris III died of either a heart attack or poison), NOT A SINGLE BULGARIAN SOLDIER WENT TO THE Eastern Front. Of all the countries where Russian troops entered, which one greeted them not with guns, but with flowers and kisses? Not a single Russian soldier died on Bulgarian soil in combat.
    Then Bulgaria provided TWO ARMIES to participate in the war as part of the XNUMXrd Ukrainian Front. And as a token of gratitude, Bulgaria was left on the list of countries defeated in the war and once again territories were torn away from us in favor of Serbia.
    AND HERE THEY SAY THAT IT IS BULGARIA BETRAYED TO RUSSIA????
    IT IS RUSSIA NOT TO VALUE AND DOES NOT RESPECT ITS ALLIES! Just look at what happened to Serbia. Who, after this, will trust and respect Russia.
    We say: “Before you teach your neighbor, look in your yard to see if everything is in order!”
    That's it! Sorry for the verbosity, but it became a shame for the Motherland!
    1. Jeremy Xren
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      11 December 2013 14: 07
      That’s right, Russia has always behaved like an empire and, in pursuit of its interests, crushed those it didn’t like, forgetting that it was losing allies.
    2. Jeremy Xren
      0
      11 December 2013 14: 07
      That’s right, Russia has always behaved like an empire and, in pursuit of its interests, crushed those it didn’t like, forgetting that it was losing allies.
  90. sanuchek
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    17 December 2013 08: 39
    Having read the article and comments, in any case, I don’t want SUCH a future for Ukraine, therefore, if an agreement is signed, I will be the first to go to Kyiv to smash the Rada and establish democracy in a new way.

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