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Zakhar Prilepin: Give us our Stalin

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Zakhar Prilepin: Give us our StalinZakhar Prilepin is considered one of the best representatives of the new generation of Russian writers, “Bitter of the Third Millennium”. This definition is quite appropriate, since his works characterize a lively and biting language, a tendency to develop social themes, to denounce the plagues of society. His Russia is inhabited by angry young people from the outskirts of the country, soldiers sent to the war in Chechnya, victims and executioners, poverty and violence reign in it. In his novel "Black Monkey", just published in Italy, tells about the new generation of children, ruthless killers. The hero of the novel, reflecting on the origin of this chilling "mutation", discovers a world without hope: there are many houses inhabited by alcoholics, there are corrupt and brutal police, girls become station prostitutes. This Russia is not even Gorky, but rather Dostoevsky. Possessing outstanding charisma Prilepin is not only a Russian writer, but also a journalist, TV host, actor, musician. Adhering to another established Russian tradition, he became a commentator and politician, close to the National Bolshevik Party, Eduard Limonov. A year ago, he made a noise with his letter to Stalin, in which he thanked him for turning Russia into a powerful state, and accused the liberals of having squandered former glory.


Anna Zafesova: Who is Stalin for Russian 38 years, how are you?

Zakhar Prilepin: This is a figure that confronts the colossal mistakes of neoliberalism. 70 of millions of people were in the abyss of poverty, the war in Chechnya was unleashed, Yeltsin fired on parliament in 1993 year. All this is justified by the fact that "under Stalin it would be even worse." From the left demanded repentance in the past. Stalin made the scum of social Darwinism in the past twenty years. Of course, this is not about justifying cleaning. Stalin is a symbol of order, severity, ruler, without any admixture of hedonism. He left behind only a military overcoat and a pair of boots. It was dedication and something religious. As Joseph Brodsky said, “God is violence. And that is exactly the God of the Old Testament. ”

- In this decision?

“The solution is a new elite that will be elected not because of money: a new military, spiritual, scientific, and also religious aristocracy. We must change the paradigm: cultivate courage and intelligence, not indulge in human weaknesses, but try to overcome them.


“But where does all this come from?”

- Of course, we need a revolution: a new power, cultivating the metaphysical aristocracy, an army of educated and trained children. Enough 20-years and 3% of the population. It is necessary to abandon the liberal matrix, the idea that the individual is primarily a member of society, that your freedom ends where the freedom of your neighbor begins. Liberalism can work in the greenhouse conditions of a protected Europe. In Russia, it does not work.

- Do not you think your arguments are a reprint of a very old dispute between Slavophiles and Westernizers and the idea that Russia cannot be a “normal country”?

- And why should she become so? We are told that we continue to wander in the wilds instead of taking the main road. And, actually, why can't we stay in the wilds?

- The idea of ​​social engineering is also not new.

- In fact, liberalism, like socialism, presupposes the formation of a new person, only the individual must be guided by the worst instincts in the quest for profit and success.

- But who will bring up your new aristocracy, because the world of adults, about which you write, consists of alcoholics, corrupt officials, rapists, liars and those who are eager for profit?

- There are young people born and raised in the USSR. She 90-s turned into a generation that did not get anything at the division of Russian wealth. They are 30-40 years old, they are not hypocrites like the Soviet people, but they do not have liberal illusions either.

- And those who come later?

- They have no Soviet ideals, in general there are no ideals. Those who preserved ideals in those days were not reproduced. Everyone then worked on eight jobs, traded, moved from place to place, everyone earned money, because we were told that it was necessary. Parents experienced convulsions of the country in search of their identity, they could not give anything to their children, they did not have time for that.

“But if the population of the USSR had ideals, then why did the country so quickly disintegrate, and no one mourned her at the time?”


- Any empire sooner or later falls apart. Our country was ruled by old men, they introduced ridiculous bans. Many at first did not realize the importance of what had happened. My father returned home and said, "Something strange is happening." And my mother replied: "You will see that everything will remain as before." My father shook his head and said: "I'm afraid not." It was Soviet idealism and immaturity, people believed that nothing bad could happen, that everything would work out. But it is still better than liberal hedonism.

- What are you offering?

- The nationalization of natural resources. It is also necessary to transfer the capital from Moscow to the Urals, to the part of the country that is losing population, and after all, on the other side of the border is China, whose government allowed families to have a second child.

- Putin does not match your model?

- The trouble is not in Putin's authoritarianism, but in neoliberalism. Putin is not a dictator, he is trying to demonstrate his strength, because he knows that this is what the people want. Indeed, there are political prisoners in the country, and it is impossible to form real opposition parties. But he is not a real dictator, it’s only from Europe that he spends time shooting journalists. The modern Russian elite has all the interests, money, homes, children, dogs, mother-in-law — outside of Russia. This is not the Russian elite.

- The solution is nationalism?

- Absolutely not. The problem is not ethnic, but social.

- I did not understand whether there will be elections in your new Russia?

- I think not. Other my colleagues think they should be. Oh, my God, as I think about Gorbachev and about this whole generation of idiots ... Stalin solved the problem by destroying them, although God forbid such a thing to us. Maybe elections are better.

- And how about Stalin should be told in schools?

- Just as now, not avoiding light and shadows, as about any other historical and political personage. Enough cults.
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  1. PSih2097
    PSih2097 5 December 2013 06: 18
    18
    - Nationalization of natural resources. It is also necessary to move the capital from Moscow beyond the Urals, to that part of the country that is losing population

    a very wise quote, especially since bureaucrats will see real Russia, and not within the Moscow Ring Road, now there will be cries ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 5 December 2013 09: 53
      16
      The current ones will not go for nationalization, but at least a mechanism for squeezing out excess funds must be created to begin with, to lead offshoreization by returning business to Russian jurisdiction ...
      Here is Medvedev with the liberal government steers with might and main that year. So what? Growth rates go into negative territory ... Where is the unprecedented rise? Where is the triumph of the liberal model? Zilch there, zilch there, zilch everywhere ... There is not enough money for anything, social programs are being phased out, although energy prices are not falling ... How long can you tolerate such helmsmen? And their salaries are also doubled, when the whole country, except for state employees, is halved ... There is no word ... Their model does not work, it does not work in any way ... That which is imprisoned only for "buy and sell" will never work. ..
    2. Very old
      Very old 5 December 2013 10: 00
      +9
      ALEXANDER, there are examples of this!
      Brazil is far from us, close Kazakhstan ...
      Moscow today is associated only with negativity, and it is itself to blame.
      (Muscovites will explode now - most of them are on the forum)
      The capital, i.e. the government and the main institutions and ministries should be removed from Moscow.
      And where is the geographical center of the Federation?
      And so that with ready-made communications ...
      This is Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Krasnoyarsk ... There is a choice
      But Babylon is already unusable
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 5 December 2013 11: 47
        +3
        Tomicham balm for the soul. I am for. City of the young.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 5 December 2013 14: 33
          0
          Where did most Muscovites come from? Do not explode, take away, but who to give.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 5 December 2013 19: 10
        +1
        Quote: Very old
        Muscovites will now explode - most of them on the forum)
        The capital, i.e. the government and the main institutions and ministries should be removed from Moscow.


        I am only for, with both hands! In addition to the banks,
        offices of state corporations. VEGETABLE BASES AND GUESTERBUSTERS
        And there are not so many Muscovites here.
  2. makst83
    makst83 5 December 2013 06: 24
    36
    Stalin is eternal. Piss traitors.

    “Many of the affairs of our party and people will be perverted and spat on, above all, abroad, and in our country too. Zionism, striving for world domination, will cruelly avenge us for our successes and achievements. He still sees Russia as a barbaric country, as raw appendage. And my name will also be slandered, slandered. Many atrocities will be attributed to me.

    World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The aggravation of the struggle will be directed, first of all, at breaking this friendship, at breaking off the outskirts from Russia. Here, I must admit, we have not done everything yet. There is still a big field of work.

    Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise. Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.

    In general, in the future development will go more complex and even frantic ways, the turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East will be particularly upset. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.

    And yet, no matter how the events develop, time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the deeds and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past "

    I.V. Stalin. November 1939
    1. T80UM1
      T80UM1 5 December 2013 06: 55
      17
      It sometimes seems to me that Stalin is from the future, or he was a soothsayer ...
      1. Civil
        Civil 5 December 2013 07: 02
        +9
        Well hold on to Zahar! Right now you are professionally overwhelmed with feces that pro-Putin, that liberals.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 5 December 2013 08: 57
          16
          Quote: Civil
          Well hold on to Zahar! Right now you are professionally overwhelmed with feces, that pro-Putin, that liberals

          - Why should the pro-Putin people speak negatively here? Did he say something against Putin? The trouble is not Putin’s authoritarianism, but neoliberalism. Putin is not a dictator, he is trying to demonstrate his strength, because he knows that the people want this. Indeed, there are political prisoners in the country, and it is impossible to form genuine opposition parties. But he is not a real dictator, it is only from Europe that he seems to spend time shooting journalists. The modern Russian elite has all interests, money, homes, children, dogs, mother-in-law - outside of Russia. This is not the Russian elite.
          as is, he said so. Putin is not a dictator (sometimes it is a pity that he is not a dictator when you see some completely insolent "bureaucrats"), and the elite is really not Russian at all, this is the elite of the country where there are deserts, on which once a year it is customary to walk in snow-white robes. I just don't understand why the elite of this country, which has already covered itself with the blood of the Arabs, who already yesterday began to insolently populate other people's Palestinian lands concurrently took the place of the Russian elite?
          The control over the media of the Jewish diaspora is also striking. For some reason I thought that General Makashov was a terrible Nazi and his place in prison. Because it was presented like this by Komsomolskaya Pravda, Moskovsky Komsomolets, AiF, and all television. Even in the internet Makashov is presented as a Nazi on all resources! Here I accidentally read his interview - somewhere in the farthest corners of the Internet his interview was preserved, it turns out that he is an adequate man! He asks the same questions that I have been asking on this resource for three years now, only he started asking them in the dashing 90s. And they gave him a label in response and that's it!
          In general, Prilepin is right here; Putin has nothing to beat him for. But the liberals - they can fill up with feces, they are even obliged. The stone is in their garden, so let them fight off feces, they can’t get used to it.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 5 December 2013 19: 45
            +2
            Quote: aksakal
            I don’t understand why the elite of this country, which had already soaked up the blood of Arabs, already yesterday began brazenly settling foreign Palestinian lands in combination with the place of the Russian elite? What are the reasons for this?


            None .. They themselves appointed themselves an elite and convinced everyone through the media that they belonged that it should be so. The very concept of elite was replaced by Protestant and Judeo-Christian values. For Jesus also drove money changers out of the temple and this was the “last straw” that led the Pharisees and high priests to the decision to kill the Son of God. And now money changers imagined themselves rulers of the world. It is enough to recall how Martin Luther and other Protestants energetically began to fight the infection of usury and acquisitions within the Catholic Church. And it ended up with the fact that in the bosom of Protestantism this infection ceased to be considered a disease and even became a sign of "God's chosen people." How can one not recall the words from the Gospel about the fact that one demon can be expelled, and ten even more evil demons will take its place. Two thousand years ago, ordinary Jews came into contact with the unbridled rampant profiteers and traders only in the limited space of the courtyard of the Jerusalem temple, and this is a touch for a simple Jew, as a rule, it happened only once a year. Every day, modern people have to deal with all kinds of traders and money changers, while they filled our entire living space and made our life unbearable.
            With his deed, Christ challenged the Jewish elite, which in fact organized a commercial-usurious business under the roof of the Jerusalem temple and fabulously grew rich in this business. The merchants and money changers in the narthex of the temple were only a small part of that ramified financial and trading system that went beyond not only the temple, but also Jerusalem and all of ancient Judea.
            Alas, the story is repeated, involuntarily you will believe in the second coming and the Last Judgment.
            Как lightning shines in the sky from east to west (and immediately visible is everywhere), so (apparently for everyone, all of a sudden) will be the coming of the Son of God.

            Lightning probably means warheads of Russian missiles carrying a cleansing fire to the global satanic nest.
      2. fisherman
        fisherman 5 December 2013 07: 08
        10
        or he was a soothsayer ..


        no it's ordinary wisdom

        they become wise people when they get tired of being smart (i.e., make mistakes, then learn from these mistakes, then make new mistakes, then learn from these mistakes again, and so on)
      3. Mhpv
        Mhpv 5 December 2013 09: 43
        11
        Quote: T80UM1
        It sometimes seems to me that Stalin is from the future, or he was a soothsayer ...

        It’s just that Stalin constantly developed his knowledge in all areas and wanted all Soviet people to be that way — smart, healthy and happy !!!
        Stalin is the son of the people and the father of the peoples!
        1. alone
          alone 5 December 2013 19: 20
          -1
          Quote: mhpv
          Stalin is the son of the people and the father of the peoples!


          I don’t have any complaints about the son of the people, but about the father you obviously overstepped the map.
          You want to say that the Russians and others as a people created Stalin? Th for nonsense.
    2. tungus
      tungus 5 December 2013 07: 40
      14
      Yes, Iosif Vissarionovich saw the situation for decades to come. And all of his so-called "bloody atrocities" are a reaction to attempts to destroy the country.
      I have a strong feeling that today's fifth column was there then, it also came to power during the collapse of the country, it also destroyed Russia and surrendered everything and everything in the same way. And the methods of fighting Stalin with this fifth column are probably the most correct. Stop these Germans, Chubais, Novodvorsky and others can only be physical destruction.
      But I have one claim to Stalin ... Yes, he created a great state with a large margin of safety. After his death, the West took 40 years to destroy the USSR. But why, understanding how events will develop in the future, he didn’t do anything to continue his course? Why didn’t you bring up the receiver? Why were people in power who destroyed the Stalinist system?
      1. air defense veteran
        air defense veteran 5 December 2013 08: 46
        15
        It is much more difficult to "educate" a successor than a son, for example. He must first be distinguished from the entire numerous environment.

        Stalin did not make his decisions alone. He was never a dictator. It was only thanks to a system of open party discussions that it was possible to get rid of Trotsky and condemn his supporters, transferring the country from the idea of ​​a "world revolution" to building socialism.
        Especially during the war, all state problems were discussed (GKO) with the involvement of industry and army leaders. Stalin's strength was in the ability to organize a collegial leadership of the country with personal responsibility for the assigned areas of work. The main measure was RESULT, and not personal devotion to the leader.
        Stalin was a genius. But he was not God. That is why Khrushchev, a "repentant" supporter of Trotsky, managed to "look like a fool devoted to the party" to hold out in power until the early 50s, and then lead a coup d'etat, destroying Beria and replacing the "dictatorship of the people" with "the dictatorship of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU ...
        By the way, it was Beria, who raised Georgia to an unprecedented height in the 30s, stopped repressions and rehabilitated the innocent before the war, headed the most responsible directions of the GKO during the war, carried out atomic and missile projects after the war, could have been an ideal successor to Stalin's cause. And the "simpleton" Khrushchev understood this very well. Alas.
        Therefore, the bulk of the "de-Stalinization slop" fell on Beria.

        Fortunately, the truth about that time is beginning to gradually make its way to the minds and hearts of our people.
      2. Valkyrie
        Valkyrie 5 December 2013 09: 39
        13
        He brought up. Only when Khrushchev came to power they were all destroyed or slandered and mixed with mud, like Stalin himself and everything that was connected with him. And they themselves reigned over everything ready, lying on the stove. Stalin's mistake was not that he did not bring up a successor, but that he did not discern and destroy all the vile traitors. And they, like a cancerous tumor, have metastasized and are now devouring our country.
      3. Che Guevara
        Che Guevara 5 December 2013 10: 18
        +2
        Tungus
        Stalin then saw all this, and took steps to remove party functionals from power, and give them only ideology, and bring managers (industrialists) tested in wartime into the government, i.e. completely change the system and structure of power, but did not have time, was poisoned by Khrushchev and the top of the Central Committee, his successor Beria was shot dead almost immediately after the leader’s funeral. Briefly, in general, read Bushkova, N.V. Starikova, very informative
  3. demotivator
    demotivator 5 December 2013 06: 24
    18
    And that, Prilepin correctly reflected everything in his letter. Everything that was plundered and that is being eaten now, all this was created not by the current "reformers", but by generations of Soviet people even under Stalin and after him.
    “We settled in your socialism.
    We divided the country you created. We have earned millions in factories built by your slaves and your scientists. We bankrupted the enterprises you built, and stole the money received for the cordon where we built our palaces .... We are trying very hard and in no way are we able to waste and let your inheritance, your name, replace the bright memory of your great achievements with a black memory of your, yes, real, and, yes, monstrous crimes.
    We owe everything to you. Damn you".
    But are they able to create at least something useful for the country and for the people?
  4. fisherman
    fisherman 5 December 2013 06: 28
    +4
    It’s necessary to change the paradigm: cultivate courage and mind,


    courage and mind are wonderful qualities, but insufficient

    honesty must always be a priority

    then many Russian problems will move from the category of nationwide first to the category of local, then to the category of minor
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 5 December 2013 07: 21
      +1
      courage and mind are wonderful qualities, but insufficient


      besides, as human history has shown, both courage and mind tend to "deteriorate" over time

      in our country, almost everyone has already become very smart, everyone wants to receive only a higher "office" education, but for some reason the "decay" has not gone anywhere
  5. Grif
    Grif 5 December 2013 06: 30
    14
    All of the above points are Soviet ideology. There is no need to invent anything new. We have the richest Soviet experience and we have something to compare with. About 30-40 year olds is absolutely true. We are especially hurt for unfulfilled hopes and unfulfilled dreams.
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 5 December 2013 06: 32
    +4
    - What are you offering?

    - Nationalization of natural resources
    The nationalization of natural wealth is good in words, but in reality what are the mechanisms, Zakhar? To send all the oligarchs to London (or build New Moscow outside the Urals)? Russia is built into the world ecological order and nobody will give away anything easily. Oligarchic capitalism - a bow of big capital and the state apparatus. They can’t find the final owner at the Moscow airport, but here Gazprom well, etc. Our elites will not go for such nationalization, but if we start from the bottom, 17 years, civil war, intervention, devastation Well and further on the list.
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 5 December 2013 06: 35
      +7
      “But where does all this come from?”
      - Of course, we need a revolution: a new power, cultivating the metaphysical aristocracy, an army of educated and trained children. Enough 20-years and 3% of the population. It is necessary to abandon the liberal matrix, the idea that the individual is primarily a member of society, that your freedom ends where the freedom of your neighbor begins. Liberalism can work in the greenhouse conditions of a protected Europe. In Russia, it does not work.

      He answers you very clearly.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 5 December 2013 07: 00
        +4
        Quote: Oskar
        Need to abandon the liberal matrix
        What will be the mechanisms, well, practical, of this refusal? Our Duma members will adopt the decree, and the President will sign? On paper, such an important issue is not resolved. In Russia, a class of large owners has formed and they will fight for their "blood" in the same Duma and in the Kremlin. How the Nanai boys will fight.
        Quote: Oskar
        need a revolution
        I wrote it down with a post above, but this is a way out and a method, but only much bloodier than in the 17th. Nowadays, all world wars and social reconstructions become more terrible and sophisticated every time. Our dear neighbors will simply tear us to pieces.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 5 December 2013 07: 20
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          and if you start from the bottom, the 17th year, the civil war, intervention, devastation and then on the list.

          Plus, it's a pity that only one system accepts, I would like to deliver them to 100500. You are absolutely right, one more "to the ground, and then" the country may not stand it.
          1. Valkyrie
            Valkyrie 5 December 2013 09: 56
            +4
            Why to the ground? The Trotskyists needed to the ground so that there was no chance for "and then". "And then" it happened due to the fact that the leadership of the country fell into the hands of Stalin, who was able to "build our new world," which was not part of the plans of those who came to power in October 1917. And then, don't you think that they are trying to destroy us again "to the core" only in peacetime, quietly, and are almost close to the goal? Fundamental changes are needed to stop this.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 5 December 2013 11: 29
              +2
              Quote: Valkyrie
              Trotskyists needed to the foundation

              Trotskyism, as such, did not exist in 1917. He appeared later when the struggle for power that was dropped by Lenin began.
              Quote: Valkyrie
              "And then" it happened, thanks to the fact that the country's leadership fell into the hands of Stalin, who was able to "build our new world"
              Yes, here the country was specifically lucky. Under Trotsky’s rule, the 1930s purges would have seemed innocent childish pranks. And Bukharin would not be better. Barrels are rolling on Stalin that the regime rested on violence - I personally believe that, in many ways, through the efforts of Stalin, violence was reduced to the minimum necessary level, or even below the minimum.
              Quote: Valkyrie
              And then, don't you think that they are trying to destroy us again "to the core" only in peacetime?

              No, it doesn’t. Just the vast majority, from the oligarchs to the very bottom, are trying to snatch their piece in proportion to their capabilities (see Ingvar 72 comment below). I dare to assure you, neither American imperialism, nor world Zionism, nor aliens flying in skeet, the destruction of Russia is not required. It’s another matter that they will not invest in preventing it either, because charity and international politics do not go together, and in case of benefit they will not fail. But to whom this destruction is unequivocally profitable and who exactly can push the process to snatch pieces for itself is China and the Islamists.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 5 December 2013 07: 24
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          We will simply be torn into pieces by our dear neighbors.

          To tear, as in the 17th, we will be ourselves, under friendly accusations on the one hand, and to applause on the other. The revolution in the direct sense of the word, we do not need. hi
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 5 December 2013 07: 43
            +2
            Political competition and the struggle against monopolies. At least to start from this, and there, you look, we’ll ride uphill at the first cosmic speed. do not hi hi
            1. dmb
              dmb 5 December 2013 09: 33
              +2
              Dear colleagues, I hope you are writing sincerely, and not at the request of one of those "efficient large owners". But who is against changing the existing order of things peacefully, well, perhaps the "frozen" Limonovites, who are most important to "bang". But when it comes to the implementation of this path, no one can give specific ways, because they simply do not exist. Here is the respected Stormbreaker, it seems, and speaks about them in general phrases (very similar to those that were used in the unforgettable 90s: Borya the drunkard, Yegorka the chatterbox and the red-haired Tolik). But what this recipe leads to, we have already seen from our own experience. And therefore, the same Prilepin and the mass of citizens, foaming at the mouth of the Communists (not to be confused with the Communist Party of the Russian Federation), and glorifying Stalin as if he were the main anti-communist, are actually talking about a return to socialism. And a return to it by peaceful means is impossible, for you are right; "effective owners" will bite their throats for their property. And it is also impossible to leave everything as it is. The desire of the owner to bypass the competitor is feasible only due to the unfair division of the created goods. So the revolution is an objective process and little dependent on our wishes.
          2. I do not care
            I do not care 5 December 2013 10: 17
            +1
            Does anyone really think that after the nationalization of any plan, our oligarchs
            with their guards menacingly go to storm the Kremlin laughing After this, the people will carry the president in their arms, and our elite will dump the first flight to the geyropu.
            95 percent of compatriots feel cruelly deceived in 90.
            So there will be no revolution, there will be a restoration of justice. And to lose some
            assets over the hill are not scared, it is worse to lose industrial production in the homeland in a compartment with education.
            my opinion
        3. BOB48
          BOB48 5 December 2013 11: 30
          0
          these will not fight - it’s easier for them to get down!
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 5 December 2013 11: 57
            0
            Quote: BOB48
            these will not fight - it’s easier for them to get down!

            Who will need them there if their property - the main one that brings income - is nationalized? Well, that is, they probably have a couple of dollars each in Swiss banks "for a rainy day", but being a simple millionaire, not an oligarch, opening the door to the highest offices with their feet - many will not stand it. Vaughn Berezovsky soaped the rope out of grief. What? You say he was helped to get into the noose? So you can help others too.
    2. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 5 December 2013 09: 45
      +1
      Either go to drastic changes, or continue to live in the position of slaves, we have all gone through this, the main thing to take into account mistakes here.
  7. Sunjar
    Sunjar 5 December 2013 06: 35
    +4
    Stalin is currently the most outstanding ruler of our state. But I'm wondering after the death of Ivan the Terrible, they did not say: "Ivan the Terrible is not on them! That he would definitely put things in order!" AND?
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 5 December 2013 07: 01
      +2
      There is one great fantasy writer. So he has a wonderful line.

      "This is now being said by the Protector, the Liberator and other flattering nicknames ... Yes, in his presence they called him the offspring of the demon and cursed, but did anyone reach such heights and do they remember those who kissed during his lifetime what he did."
  8. Oskar
    Oskar 5 December 2013 06: 37
    +5
    - But who will bring up your new aristocracy, because the world of adults, about which you write, consists of alcoholics, corrupt officials, rapists, liars and those who are eager for profit?
    - There are young people born and raised in the USSR. She 90-s turned into a generation that did not get anything at the division of Russian wealth. They are 30-40 years old, they are not hypocrites like the Soviet people, but they do not have liberal illusions either.

    As if I’ve read my thoughts, already goosebumps ... good
  9. Oskar
    Oskar 5 December 2013 06: 47
    +1

    Zakhar about the national idea, the demographic situation, and more.
  10. bomg.77
    bomg.77 5 December 2013 06: 53
    -2
    Some kind of an article with foul-smelling, everything seems to be correctly written, but the feeling that it is not so much for Stalin as it is against the current government and specifically Putin. Minus put just in case, you never knownegative
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 5 December 2013 07: 02
      -2
      Well ... I have the opinion that the loudest shouting about theft is the one who did not get a piece with this theft, but he wants to grab a piece. This is our "test" for the campaign in the majority.
    2. Lindon
      Lindon 5 December 2013 09: 53
      +1
      Yes, there are doubts - the author uses Stalin as a flag to receive dividends of popularity. Perhaps the next conjuncturist wants to go on someone else’s glory.
      1. Valkyrie
        Valkyrie 5 December 2013 10: 00
        +5
        What he offers is correct and will be a way out for the country. And if you sit, do nothing and see the trick in everything, we will lose the country and bury the future of our children.
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 5 December 2013 10: 36
          +1
          Quote: Valkyrie
          What he offers is correct and will be a way out for the country.


          Nationalization of natural resources. The new elite. The capital beyond the Urals. Here it is the solution to all problems. And how could we not have guessed before?
        2. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 5 December 2013 15: 44
          0
          Quote: Valkyrie
          What he offers is correct and will be a way out for the country. And if you sit, do nothing and see the trick in everything, we will lose the country and bury the future of our children.

          Yes, yes - let the revolution and other attributes be healthy. Remind the lope of the earth fell off the Russian Empire after the revolution and how much blood was there after 1917? 6 years! 6 years cut each other for a good purpose. And who came to visit us and how pleasant it was? How many of those children for whom you "stand up" died and turned out to be street children? All to the altar.
          It’s easy to destroy, but building is very difficult. 20 years after the revolution, the country simply rose from its knees. Yes, she rose, but for the sake of this, it was not only the people who had to make human efforts, but also such efforts to make that a simple worker could not even dream of. Why do you think JV Stalin had a stroke at the end of his life?
          Now everything is not easy, even then it was not easy. After all, the one who entered the house where there is bread, salt and beer will not just leave it. Do you think someone will support us as we support Syria? Yes, the Yankees will be the first to take the Arctic together with western Siberia. East and Vladivostok will be divided between Japan and China. The European part of Turkey and the EU will drink. And we will be left with the "capital" in the Urals as they wanted. If you're lucky. And do you still think that we need a revolution that will somehow result in a civil war?
        3. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 5 December 2013 15: 48
          0
          You can scream endlessly. But, most importantly, But what have you done for the country, other than kneading the troubles (where - choose yourself) sitting on the couch and troll forums?
        4. Nikolay D.
          Nikolay D. 5 December 2013 20: 03
          +1
          Quote: Valkyrie
          What he offers is correct and will be a way out for the country.

          He does not offer anything, an ordinary cheap populist, trying to get out on "love for Stalin" (they have recently been crawling out mushrooms in the fall, and all of them are shouting: nationalization, revolution, Stalin; the trend is to love Stalin, and under cover to make their dark deeds, got tired of the fact that each of them thinks that the people are "censored" and will go to whatever they want to the sweet speeches about patriotism and Stalin, well, they do not know that those who worship Stalin are educated people and understand very well that where, from this it follows that it is not necessary to throw slogans, but to do things). Proposes and makes Kurginyan (this one is the most of the patriots), Starikov, the same Fursov.
      2. IS-80
        IS-80 5 December 2013 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: Lindon
        Yes, there are doubts - the author uses Stalin as a flag to receive dividends of popularity. Perhaps the next conjuncturist wants to go on someone else’s glory.


        I have the same impression. He wants to see being the ruler of the doom, so he decided to leave on the rising wave of interest in Comrade Stalin and his era.
  11. smel
    smel 5 December 2013 06: 57
    +2
    Stalin is a symbol of order, severity, ruler without any admixture of hedonism.
    Article PLUS. The author said what a normal person thinks. And although his thoughts are not new - still the author is well done. It remains only to add that his definition of Stalin is far from complete. Positive epithets can pick up dozens.
  12. Revolver
    Revolver 5 December 2013 07: 15
    10
    - And how about Stalin should be told in schools?

    - Just as now, not avoiding light and shadows, as about any other historical and political personage. Enough cults.

    Stalin is too ambiguous, but even in his ambiguity is great.
    Shot? Yes. And, judging by some facts that had just begun to surface in the post-Soviet era (and by the way, facts or fabrication - I’m not an expert to say it unambiguously), I shot a little.
    Will history forgive him on June 22, 1941 and the subsequent terrible defeats? Could it have been otherwise before and after? We do not know, or maybe our grandchildren will not recognize. But the name of Stalin is inseparable from the Great Victory of 1945.
    Like someone or not, but of all the leaders of the last century, he was the greatest, all the others against the background of Stalin - "wretched, insignificant persons"*, maybe with the exception of two - Beria and Andropov, but they did not have time to turn around.
    As Pierre Kurtad said very correctly, "Stalin is not a thing of the past, he has disappeared into our future."


    * I. Ilf, E. Petrov "Golden Calf".
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 5 December 2013 10: 42
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      Will history forgive him on June 22, 1941 and the subsequent terrible defeats?


      Have history already forgiven the defeats of Czechoslovak, Polish, French, English and American leaders?
    2. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 5 December 2013 13: 14
      0
      Regarding Andropov, let me disagree ... there are a lot of blank spots .. history has not yet given him an assessment ... his role in the Gorbachev case has not yet been considered and is he not Judushka's "own father" ...
      1. Nikolay D.
        Nikolay D. 5 December 2013 20: 18
        0
        Quote: plotnikov561956
        is he not Judas' "own father"


        No, there Yakovlev seems to be involved, the one who headed the propaganda department. Although Andropov made a considerable contribution.
  13. makarov
    makarov 5 December 2013 07: 21
    +2
    The author has analogues.
    Tommaso Campanella - City of the Sun.
    And also Utopia, the name of the genre comes from the work of the same name by Thomas More - “The Golden Book, as useful as it is funny about the best state system and the new island of Utopia”
    Utopia. Where is it on the map of reality today?
    DOCMobile Seal “Knowledge is Power”, 1989, No. 9
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 5 December 2013 16: 24
      0
      In the same place where the city "Rapture" (Bioshock);)
  14. saag
    saag 5 December 2013 08: 08
    -9
    "Zakhar Prilepin: Give us our Stalin"
    And also liqueur "Kurdamir", fildekos stockings and the warm tube sound of the radio :-)
    To all lovers of the mantra about Stalin, you would instantly lose a lot for reasons:
    1.Worship of the West
    2. Collaboration with foreigners
    3. counter-revolutionary activity (cybernetics was recognized as pseudoscience)
    this is at least, and the consequences would not be pleasant
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 5 December 2013 10: 33
      +4
      Quote: saag
      fildecos stockings
      Better filperpersovye.It is about the Personality.And not about returning to 60-70 years ago.
      Quote: saag
      To all lovers of the mantra about Stalin
      The mantra is a lie about Stalin and that period of time.
      Quote: saag
      2. Collaboration with foreigners
      Spied. I quote: "... Everyone in the USSR was so afraid to communicate with foreigners that the doorman did not even let them into the hotel, so they looked for housing through the newspaper (and did not find it). Foreigners had to live in parks and squares, because They were not allowed to enter the station either. Those foreigners who ran out of money could not get a job and tried to earn some money by teaching foreign languages ​​(but they were afraid of foreigners and no one came to them). So all foreigners in the USSR died of hunger . The truth about the famine of foreigners in the USSR is still hidden by the KGB ... "
      Quote: saag
      Worship of the West
      It was, initially, not about ideology in the literal, proper sense of the word, but about the situation in the natural and technical sciences.
      Quote: saag
      (cybernetics was recognized as pseudoscience)
      Another deceitful mantra. "Cybernetics is a bourgeois pseudoscience" - the phrase was used about some completely vague philosophical speculations, and not about research in the field of computing technology, control theory, etc. By the way, the project of the first digital computer in the USSR was developed in 1948 by Bashir Iskanderovich Rameev and Isaak Semenovich Brook. In 1951, the first computer in continental Europe, MESM, created by a team headed by Sergei Alekseevich Lebedev, was put into operation in Kiev. Here's the bullshit, Stalin caught them and punished them. Scientists promised more Not to do so. And then, "contrary" to the course of the party, they accepted the old.
  15. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 5 December 2013 08: 13
    +7
    I am not a Stalinist and am not delighted with the "methods" of Joseph Vissarionovich. But sometimes it seems that it would not hurt us to return to HIS methods of government for five years. To set brains and restore order in the country
    1. d_trader
      d_trader 5 December 2013 12: 48
      0
      Contradict yourself
      1. Galich Kos
        Galich Kos 5 December 2013 14: 53
        0
        And where did you see the contradiction "on your own"? Enlighten, if not difficult.
  16. Azzi
    Azzi 5 December 2013 08: 39
    +4
    Ambiguous feeling from the article. The impression is spoiled by the constant hint of Zakhar, like - "God forbid, of course, like under Stalin, but something needs to be done." 20 years old and 3% of the population is an unsubstantiated myth. Stalin's methods are a harsh reality, you can't put things in order with white gloves, you need to realize that you can only come to the RESULT through blood / sweat / and so on. Zakhar cannot accept this through his intelligence, he is trying to find some kind of compromise, and thus echoes the liberals.
    Summary - plus for personal bold (I hope not calculated PR), minus for lack of decisiveness of thought.
  17. ImPerts
    ImPerts 5 December 2013 08: 43
    +2
    It was interesting to listen to Zakhar Prilepin.
    Bragging. The result of a short conversation with him)))
  18. yan
    yan 5 December 2013 10: 11
    0
    Stalin - This is a figure who is opposed to the colossal errors of neoliberalism.
    very true definition. Prilepin as a whole has a very extraordinary approach.
  19. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 December 2013 10: 12
    +2
    This is the main trouble of all these new, "suddenly" "saw the light" neo-poztreots, like Prilepin, in their half-heartedness. When you start pressing them and asking "head-on" - are you for "white" or for "red" ?, so they immediately start to play up and go away from the answer. As they say, "I want to, but also pricks." None of all these poztreots wants to sacrifice their little philistine happiness in the name and for "general welfare", and therefore all their cries about "poztreotizm", "revolution" are just bunches into emptiness, for they are not backed up by any deeds. They live by the proverb: "I crowed, but there, at least don't bloom." Like: you, now "light up" with our pseudo-poztreoticheskikh speeches, go to the barricades, and we will look from the side. Yeah, of course, they scattered.
  20. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2013 10: 14
    +4
    It is not worth returning to Stalinism in this way and it will not work to restore the methods of government of the 30-40s of the last century ... The era was an alarming, troubled, great depression, the collapse of the last colonial empires, there was an active redivision of the world and it went through active militarism. ..Now you need to be more flexible in terms of ideology, and the new nomenclature must be cleared out more boldly, or else they’ve stolen, they’ve attached it here ... They don’t let their people drown, although they cannot swim ... ... It’s direct that it is not autocratic ... Putin’s bad thing is that he doesn’t play his boyars badly ... Serdyukov-Vasiliev, casino prosecutors and other corruption he will always remember the people ...
  21. viborzanami
    viborzanami 5 December 2013 10: 41
    0
    - What are you offering?

    - Nationalization of natural resources.

    Even Zyuganov already realized that the nationalization of natural resources had already been carried out, and Prilepin kept repeating the Communist Party mantra:
    State-owned Rosneft is now not only the largest oil company in Russia, but already the BIGGEST OIL COMPANY OF THE WORLD!
    The largest gas company in the world - Gazprom this year became the state (50% + 1 share)!
    - The trouble is not in Putin’s authoritarianism, but in neoliberalism.

    Liberals do not carry out nationalization, they rely on the invisible hand of the market and privatize state property.
    The liberals do not provide political asylum to the whistleblower Snowden, on the contrary - they, in violation of the Vienna Convention, land and search the Bolivian President’s plane to find the former NSA officer and hand him over to his master.
    Liberals do not shoot down US democratic missiles over the Mediterranean Sea; on the contrary, they help Uncle Sam to overthrow the bloody dictators and to democratize their countries.
    Liberals do not break social relations with the EU, they blame bloody Putin for the pressure exerted on Ukraine.
    Article minus.
  22. fisherman
    fisherman 5 December 2013 11: 01
    +2
    I read the comments and put the advantages to everyone, because everyone is right, albeit partially, but everyone is right

    but we don’t have unity, we disagree both in basic methods and in trifles, and in our history it has happened so that they shot for trifles

    such joyless things
  23. lexe
    lexe 5 December 2013 11: 02
    -4
    Stalin, of course, was an outstanding politician and perhaps one of the great reformers if not for ...
    22 June. It was an exam. And all the previous five-year plans and successes in all branches of life were only separate chapters and paragraphs of the instruction manual for graduation. The preface to this instruction manual was 1917 ...
    Yes ... an outwardly first-class student (USSR) knowing the subject "excellently" ... swam immediately after 1 questions and tasks. But what if, for example, you do not have (after the defeat on June 22) the Air Force? the country before the war just lived in the sky ...
    And now the enemy is already in Moscow. It’s good that there was a cheat sheet-the Russian people! Which eventually corrected all the jambs of the leader.
    Only what grade did the tormented student get? The minimum-pass rate. And beyond that grade, millions of people, the best people! Who put their heads together, telling the leader where he was wrong ...
    To return a person who will lead us well, and then, on June 22, after a short silence (more than a week), the Brothers and Sisters will sound? ...
    I’m afraid in the modern conditions of the war, the Brothers and Sisters may no longer sound, they won’t give a long thought as before. And the price for this is the life of the people ...
    Although there is much to learn from Stalin (there is no talk of repression). Stalin was well versed and in sufficient detail in many matters, but in some matters he needed narrow specialists who should be trusted. And the more such people the better.
  24. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 5 December 2013 12: 03
    -1
    I did not like the interview, evolution and no revolutions, that is what will lead to the development of society in the right direction. Or did someone forget how it was?
    Close to Eddie Limonov's party, who in his autobiographical book "It's Me, Eddie" fucked a black man under a bridge in New York, read whoever has not read, and now he has become a National Bolshevik, having lived in the Uyeva states for a cloud of years, teaches Russia how to live. And this hack is close to his party))) Anything to think about?
    http://tululu.org/read66642/27/
    1. garlik
      garlik 5 December 2013 12: 13
      +1
      As for Limonov, you’re grossly mistaken. They simply got it with this black man. It was a LYRIC CHARACTER. Read other books. There are great stories, just great SMRT
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 5 December 2013 12: 25
        +1
        What a lyrical character is getting fucked up with, here everyone is screaming a geyrop, fools are forbidden to be shot, and here he fucks with men on every page - this means lyrics and high art)))
        1. garlik
          garlik 5 December 2013 12: 40
          -2
          The novel was written in 1975 by an unknown hungry, persecuted immigrant. I needed a shocking start in my writing career. Those who know Limonov know that this is a desperate love of women. Once again I say read other great things.
          1. viktorrymar
            viktorrymar 5 December 2013 15: 40
            +1
            It wasn’t horseradish to migrate, tea wasn’t a crane, and then everyone came back and cut grandmothers on naive Soviet people, that chanson prostitutes, that political ones like Solzhenitsyn, the sufferers were bad
  25. saag
    saag 5 December 2013 12: 06
    0
    Quote: Be proud.
    It is about the Personality. And not about returning to 60-70 years ago.

    A person is inseparable from his time, outside his time it will be a completely different person, to match the current time, to the masters actively minus, do not build illusions, live in the present
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 5 December 2013 14: 51
      0
      Quote: saag
      do not create illusions, live in the present
      There are no illusions, however, as well as "longing for a strong hand." Illusory is an attempt to deny the past, and when the attempt fails, the past is distorted, and in a grotesque, or rather a deceitful form. And about "living in the present" .., we live by it .Just the present, inseparable from the past and from the future. "Butterfly effect", however.
  26. garlik
    garlik 5 December 2013 12: 10
    -2
    - There are young people born and raised in the USSR. In the 90s, it turned into a generation that did not get anything when dividing Russian wealth. They are 30-40 years old, they are not hypocrites like the Soviet people, but they also have no liberal illusions. 100% hit.
  27. garlik
    garlik 5 December 2013 12: 28
    0
    Here’s what I’d like to say here: Stalin destroyed a lot of people. Okay. A great country was built, competitively moving forward Russian civilization. Unfortunately, not everyone understands its value. And these dead people, all different from the overrated Tukhachevsky to the last miserable convict not by sighted VICTIMS. They formed the basis of an enormous affair. Yes, cruel. But they all died not in vain! And now all these Yakovlev, Gorbachevs, Sakharov’s activities have DECREASED these victims, destroying the whole Civilization. And now they have made them miserable dung.
    1. lexe
      lexe 5 December 2013 12: 41
      -2
      .
      And these dead people, all different from overrated Tukhachevsky to the last miserable convict, were not sighted VICTIMS

      But what about the victims of WWI? The memory of which was simply trampled into the mud after 1917? But Russian civilization was ...
      And then how many times were the loss figures reviewed? Why did Stalin conceal the initial figure? Here, under the tsar in WWI, the statistics of losses were kept open-no one hid anything.
      So
      PRECAUTED these sacrifices destroying the whole Civilization.

      much earlier, even before the collapse of the USSR.
      Or do you think that missing is real memory?
      1. garlik
        garlik 5 December 2013 12: 56
        0
        Well, that’s the story with us. Each Russian life fell on the altar.
  28. polly
    polly 5 December 2013 13: 11
    0
    "Parents went through the convulsions of the country in search of their identity, they could not pass on anything to their children, they did not have time for this."
    Beautifully said about identity! Only in my seaside mono-town, tied to the defense industry, I was not looking for identity then, it wasn’t there before, and after baking bread, the children baked bread from a half-bag of flour given at the enterprise instead of a salary! am
  29. Taoist
    5 December 2013 13: 11
    0
    Personally, I posted this interview here not at all so that for the millionth time we grappled to find out "the role of personality in history" - and even Prilepin's personality does not have any meaning. The main (IMHO of course) is this formulation:
    "The solution is a new elite that will not be elected because of money: a new military, spiritual, scientific, and also religious aristocracy. It is necessary to change the paradigm: cultivate courage and intelligence, not indulge human weaknesses, but try to overcome them." (with)
  30. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 5 December 2013 13: 46
    0
    Pleased with Zakhar Prilepin. good I did not read it, but only heard this name at the last meeting with Maxim Kantor. It’s just that over the past 25 years squeamishness towards young authors has developed. It is nice that some of them are beginning to see clearly, such as, for example, Yu.Polyakov.
  31. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 5 December 2013 14: 33
    +2
    The community was our Stalin. Personality for ages. That is why those who love to kick a dead lion - the liberals and the Semites - are so afraid of him. It is also not surprising that he was not included in the project "100 Russian Generals". Well, it will break all the ratings! But Trotsky appears there. General, * fuck. Prilepin - respect for his position and views.
  32. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 December 2013 15: 19
    0
    Quote: Taoist
    "The solution is a new elite who will not be elected thanks to money: a new military, spiritual, scientific, and also religious aristocracy. We need to change the paradigm: cultivate courage and intelligence, not indulge human weaknesses, but try to overcome them." (from)

    Again the "elite" ... Well, how can it be without the elite. Go "subject" and ranks among the elite. And the rest, then who is the "serious seed" or byd ... oh? Oh well. Or the subject had something like, in the form, like "SS" in Germany in the 30-40s?
    1. Taoist
      5 December 2013 17: 29
      +1
      Unfortunately, the "time of liberalism" devalued not only people but also many concepts. The term "elite" including.

      "The elite is different. In essence, this is a layer of society, which performs only one function in it: to create patterns and rules for their consumption. And in this sense, if some pop singer, shocking athlete, scandalous journalist, holo actor or socialite has enough imitators, then they are clearly an elite. The whole question: which one? Because there is an elite and an elite. There is an elite, so to speak, peasant or petty bourgeois, who entered this stratum essentially in the same way as rich peasants, millers, and small merchants of long gone eras became. Just getting rich and recklessly demonstrating his wealth. For for a person with the psychology of a tradesman wealth and the ability to scam him - this is a dream to strive for. However, at that time she occupied a fitting place for her, being an elite only within the framework of a certain social stratum or group. And in the same way breaking hats in front of the nobility. And there is that part of the elite on which the development and the very existence of society depends.

      It is very easy for society to get a simple, so to speak, peasant elite (although I always didn’t like to use this word that way, it’s painfully humiliating towards people who grow bread). It is enough for some part of society that has wealth to start imitating those whom your society considers to be great. Other societies, other countries, other planets, which are considered more successful from the point of view of the ideas prevailing in your society. But this path can only lead to the fact that your society will simply become part of that large, in your opinion, society on the rights of not even a junior partner, but a servant. Only the appearance of a true elite or nobility can give your own society a chance. And this task cannot be solved by simple imitation. "(C)
  33. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 December 2013 18: 35
    0
    Why not "invent" neo-bourgeois scribblers in order to "screw up" the brain of the layman. Everyone "carries" what his mind and experience are enough for, so to speak: brings the general "basis" for his "tuning". However, the whole history of mankind says only one thing - "Well-fed, hungry does not understand." Back in the 19th century, Vidocq believed that the eternally existing thieves' world with its life "according to concepts" and a simple law: "live and let another live", the most just alternative to any state system. As it turned out, only Lenin was right with his "class approach" to the structure of society. "Elite", you say ... well, well.
    1. Taoist
      5 December 2013 19: 55
      0
      Is it possible to create a thieves world apart from living in terms of concepts? You did not notice a simple thing ... The elite only then real elite when it creates, and with this creation sets the purpose and meaning of life for the whole society.
  34. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 December 2013 21: 25
    0
    "Thieves' world" creates, first of all, statehood, law and order. Everything else exists already within this, obeying the laws of this "thug" superstructure. "Elite" may not create-parasitize, as in our case (I mean modern Russia). Even earlier, for example, in the "tsarist time", the "elite" did not particularly want to work and did not seek to create, trying to parasitize on their benefits and rights. Haven't you read Russian classics?
    Yes, by the way, I have to travel a lot for work and climb into the truly "bear" corners of our vast Motherland, and so there are places in the depths of Russia where people have long been, since the collapse of the USSR, cut off from everything, desperate to find support and the care of modern authorities is lived "according to concepts", "truth". And almost all, on the walls of the huts, there are photographs of long-gone relatives, icons and among them, necessarily, cut out from old magazines and newspapers, portraits of Lenin and Stalin. And why would it ...
  35. Ross
    Ross 5 December 2013 22: 31
    +1
    Quote: T80UM1
    It sometimes seems to me that Stalin is from the future, or he was a soothsayer ...

    Stalin had serious teachers ...
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 5 December 2013 23: 53
      +1
      Quote: Ross
      Stalin had serious teachers ...

      One Ivan the Terrible, which is worth. It is known that on the margins of his work about Ivan the Terrible, JV Stalin wrote "Teacher!" But the point is not only this, but also the fact that J.V. Stalin was a super diligent and creative student.
      JV Stalin both from his present and from, I hope our future. And his opponents are clearly out of timeliness.