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Who and what are they going to teach in Moscow centers of tolerance?

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Moscow thought about how to integrate migrants more intensively into the metropolitan community. To this end, it was decided to start an experiment on the opening of the so-called special centers of tolerance at the Moscow libraries. According to representatives of the Central Library Administration of the Central Administrative District of the capital, today 7 centers for migrants living in the Russian capital have already been opened as a kind of sample in the Central Administrative District. In 2015, there should be at least thirty such centers in Moscow. And all thirty, which is remarkable, in the central part of the capital - in the reading rooms of the Central Administrative District libraries.


In the "centers of tolerance" it is planned to conduct course training in the following areas: teaching the Russian language, seminars on the study of the rights and duties of visitors, talks about stories and the culture of Russia, classes with applied orientation (as an example is given such an option as teaching migrants to use the Moscow metro and a story about the features of the Moscow subway device). Over time, such centers will be celebrated and celebrations of particularly revered all-Russian and national holidays, - this is also reported by employees of the Centralized Library System of the Central Administrative District of Moscow.



If you believe the representatives of the Central Library System of the Central Administrative District of the Russian capital, now the tolerance centers are visited by 40 people (each) at the same time, and the migrants express a keen interest in what they teach.

On the one hand, the idea of ​​raising the level of education among those who come to Russia in general, and Moscow in particular, is humane and correct. Obviously, the higher the level of knowledge of the Russian language, Russian culture, Russian traditions, the laws of the Russian Federation in the migrant environment, the less problems for traditional (local) society migrants will create, the less will be the very possibility of their involvement in various extremist groups, less chance embark on criminal ways. This is all rational, and looks very effective work. However, the other side of this issue is clearly present. What is it?

Representatives of the Central Library System of the Central Administrative District of Moscow state that the currently open 7 tolerance centers operate solely on the enthusiasm of the CBS staff. In other words, this initiative is not at all state or even municipal, and therefore, sooner or later, its implementation will require external funding. The Centralized Library System confirms the fact that, without budget financing, the centers of tolerance will not be able to survive for a long time, and they note that already from next year they hope from the Moscow authorities to get approximately 300 thousand rubles to finance each of these centers. In this case, special emphasis is placed on the fact that 300 thousand rubles (the amount seems to be completely non-astronomical) will be needed to create new manuals. By simple mathematical calculations, you can get the amount of budget funding for 30 preparing for opening in the Central Administrative District of the capital of tolerance centers in 9 million rubles. For the Moscow budget, again, the amount cannot be called very heavy, but the fact is that the budget of the capital (as well as the budget of any other settlement of the country) is filled at the expense of the labor activity of the residents of this city. To this amount, obviously, you will have to add a percentage to the salary for those library employees who will be forced to conduct classes with migrants. After all, the visitors of the library are not part of the duties of an ordinary library employee to teach people the Russian language, history, culture and law. And if so, then the amount of financing of the centers of tolerance, as they say, you want - you do not want, but you have to increase, because you can’t get very far from bare enthusiasm alone.

In this regard, a rather strange situation emerges. The average resident of Moscow, who is already forced to share workplaces with representatives of the migrant environment (and often share in such a case, when the migrant has a clear handicap - no need to pay taxes to the treasury), will face the need to also raise the education level from his own pocket. guests of the capital. " That is, the message is something like this: a Muscovite, do you want the migrant to be more educated and tolerant, pay a little more ...

But even if we assume that the same average Muscovite is ready to finance the initiative to create special centers of tolerance for migrants, how tangible is the return on the work of such centers? If we again refer to the words of the CBS representatives that the centers are visited by 40 migrants, the return at this stage is clearly not impressive. Why? Yes, if only because the total number of migrants in Moscow is by no means a 40 person and not even a 40 thousand. The real number is several millions! Therefore, even if we assume that the libraries of the Central Administrative District will produce only an educated contingent, then its volumes will be negligible compared to the total number of migrants in the same capital.

By the way, it is worth referring to the question of for which migrants in the Central Administrative District of the capital those very “tolerant centers” are now open. To put it mildly, the opening of a center for migrants from Belarus in the Veresaev Library causes a slight oddity ... At least, the opening of a tolerance center for migrants in the Central Administrative District causes attention, from Komi, Chuvashia and the Republic of Mordovia. Honestly, you can hardly imagine “intolerant” Belarusians who come to Moscow without knowing either the Russian language or our common history and in addition set their own rules, keeping entire Moscow neighborhoods at bay ... And shooting Chuvash weddings or, God forgive me, Has anyone seen “Mordovian lawlessness” on the streets of Moscow? .. Well, it's good that Moscow did not have time to open centers of tolerance for Voronezh, Belgorod or Khabarovsk people ...

So, there is an initiative to create special centers of tolerance, there are first ideas and plans, but in order for such a system to become a real, there is little enough of one enthusiastic librarians. It is necessary, at least, to highlight the main areas of work and attend to the influx of investment. In determining the main areas of work, it is necessary to single out those migrant groups (national and confessional) that today create more problems than others in society, and it is for them to place the main emphasis. Well, and these groups are well known to all: people from the Caucasus (including from the North), “guests” from Central Asia. To increase the efficiency of the centers, called centers of tolerance, it would be worthwhile to attract (and especially to finance) the diaspora. And then in the same Moscow, the national diasporas turned into tightly knit clans, the activities within which are almost a taboo for the “uninitiated.” Diasporas, if they position themselves as law-abiding structures, obviously should not stand aside from the development of centers in which the “listeners” will learn more about the legislation of the Russian Federation and the traditions of Russian (Russian) society. Funding for the centers of Islamic culture or centers for learning Arabic is enough, why not attend to the funding of centers for the study of Russian culture and the Russian language? ..

It would be nice to attract for financing and development centers and embassies of those states whose citizens in the capital, to put it mildly, a lot. So far, on a voluntary basis ... In such a multilateral manner, the work would have gone much better.
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  1. Onotollah
    Onotollah 5 December 2013 07: 38
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    The initiative is certainly good, but wouldn't it be better instead of the question "how can we arrange the life of migrants?" attend to the question "why are they needed here?"
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 5 December 2013 08: 02
      16
      Quote: Onotolle
      to attend to the question "why are they needed here?

      In order not to bother with the question "what to do with them?"
      We have to repeat ourselves for the umpteenth time. Russia again does not learn from the experience of others. Already how many such centers have been built in Europe. "Assimilate" the money of local responsible taxpayers. And then they stamp articles and discuss the results of this "hopeless" in parliaments.
      How many programs and means are invented by "smart people", but migrants frankly "score" on them, and do not want to "integrate" into any ...
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 5 December 2013 09: 23
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        Quote: Ptah
        In order not to bother with the question "what to do with them?"

        add. them, their children, their donkeys, their auls with which they will move here over time ... Toleraia plaque-fly am
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 5 December 2013 09: 36
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          Quote: RBLip
          add. them, their children, their donkeys, their villages with which they will move here over time.

          As far as I remember, the German SDP (Social Democratic Party) has the following slogan - "Today you will save a couple of euros on your salary by giving them to an emigrant. Tomorrow your children and grandchildren will pay with their blood!"
          And for this (including) they want to ban them with the wording "foshism". If you and I agree with the slogan, then we should also be "banned".
          Or it is easier to "dilute" to such an extent that even thoughts do not arise in my head.
        2. Reasonable, 2,3
          Reasonable, 2,3 5 December 2013 13: 34
          +7
          I don’t want to pay for this idiocy. Even if Azerbones say “There are too many Asians in Moscow.” The point of no return has already been passed. My idea is this. Allow us Muscovites to carry weapons and issue quotas for shooting Asians. 100 people a year. In my opinion, very even tolerant.
      2. Heccrbq.3
        Heccrbq.3 5 December 2013 14: 48
        +3
        It’s not Russia that doesn’t learn the lessons, it’s those who have chosen firsthand that they don’t learn anything!
    2. Airman
      Airman 5 December 2013 10: 18
      15
      Quote: Onotolle
      The initiative is certainly good, but wouldn't it be better instead of the question "how can we arrange the life of migrants?" attend to the question "why are they needed here?"

      Instead of centers of "tolerance" centers of "urgent deportation" are needed, there will be more sense. And let them learn tolerance at home.
    3. avt
      avt 5 December 2013 10: 40
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      Quote: Onotolle
      attend to the question "why are they needed here?"

      And also to attend to the question. If in the USSR the Russians were "occupants" who infringed upon the national consciousness and imposed their language and alphabet through school education, according to the new historical research of the newly formed great and ancient states, then after the exodus of the Russians from their countries, who finally returned to the historical path of development and stopped to the roots of their culture. Who the hell is there to teach them anything at all? Those who want to learn should get basic knowledge at home before leaving the country. At the request of the leadership of their country, you can help them there, nothing more. And all these games of tolerance have not led to anything good anywhere and will not lead anywhere. It is better to take care of the diasporas and their leaders, who are in fact ethno-criminal gangs. So for the Olympics they took and shook the rookery under the auspices of the Dagestani brothers in Biryulyovo and the Azeri brothers polished that Sadovodom shopping center. Moscow ", shopping center" Evropeyskiy ", yes," Golden Babylon ", they rule, at once a lot of interesting things surfaced. Yes, and terror ists in the Caucasus have sharply diminished money.
    4. Airman
      Airman 5 December 2013 10: 54
      +4
      Quote: Onotolle
      The initiative is certainly good, but wouldn't it be better instead of the question "how can we arrange the life of migrants?" attend to the question "why are they needed here?"

      Almost no one goes to libraries, any book can be read electronically, so they (librarians) came up with a job so that they would not be dispersed, and they even decided to cut the dough a bit.
    5. Very old
      Very old 5 December 2013 13: 56
      +5
      Silent glancing, slowly ...
      Someone from Russia wants to make very tolerant - either Holland, or France (very tanned, very tanned)
    6. realist
      realist 5 December 2013 14: 26
      +3
      the authorities have already taken care of - illegal migrants are going to amnesty - like welcome for those who have already spit on the law of our country.
    7. datur
      datur 5 December 2013 20: 27
      +4
      [quote = Onotolle] The initiative is certainly good, but wouldn't it be better instead of asking "how can we arrange the life of migrants?" to attend to the question "why are they needed here? - and how did these chebureks end up here?" am and also, why the hell are we so many monkeys that even in Russian can’t say me! Yes, not that they can’t, they also don’t want to teach our GREAT LANGUAGE- am(censor you're wrong) wink
    8. datur
      datur 5 December 2013 20: 27
      +1
      [quote = Onotolle] The initiative is certainly good, but wouldn't it be better instead of asking "how can we arrange the life of migrants?" to attend to the question "why are they needed here? - and how did these chebureks end up here?" am I clicked a site glitch 1 time, and registered 2 times?
  2. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 5 December 2013 07: 49
    +8
    how to more intensively integrate migrants into the metropolitan community
    Or maybe it's better to go home? To mom dad? So that the wives later do not apply to the migration service - return the husband.
    already now, tolerance centers are visited by 40 people (each) at the same time, and migrants express a keen interest in what is taught in them.
    Well, why not? Maybe they also feed them there, so as not to scatter ... But I wonder how many free children's centers have been opened during this time?
  3. Denis
    Denis 5 December 2013 07: 51
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    Moscow thought about how to more intensively integrate migrants into the metropolitan community
    Question: At whose expense?
    Like most people, they didn’t look at me anywhere. Do they need someone whose construction sites they work on, or so few powerful people parasitize and steal. When did Moscow become full of gastric? Yes, yes, in the meadow. Although this deceitful mayor-scum mayor had no construction companies of his own ...
    And the beautiful wife?
    We have achieved that there is no NVP at school, but they conduct tolerance lessons
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 5 December 2013 08: 16
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      Quote: Denis
      They are needed for the one on whose construction sites they work, otherwise the so-so-powerful people are parasitizing and stealing.

      Denis, one line in the law will change everything radically. Among other things, of course. Share responsibility for offenses for Russian citizens and non-citizens. Of course, in the direction of an increase of 2-3 times for illegal immigrants.
      Stole a can of beer - get a "patch", not a zone, but "chemistry" on "people's construction sites of the country." I pulled off the woman's earrings in the courtyard in the evening or squeezed the phone off the kid - keep the ten "in the mines."
      Came to "work" - so build some "channel" or BAM. It is also possible at city construction sites (for violation of the passport regime), only with a mandatory deduction of 50% to the treasury or to the victim.
      And since this horde can no longer live in a different way, in six months or a year almost everyone will scatter.
      It would be a desire and lawmakers ......
      1. Denis
        Denis 5 December 2013 08: 44
        +3
        Quote: Ptah
        It would be a desire and lawmakers ......
        Here they need Gastric. They themselves are certainly poor and honest, and their cousins?
    2. complete zero
      complete zero 5 December 2013 08: 25
      +6
      Yes, if only in Moscow and near Luzhka (I would somehow survive) Muscovites themselves do not want to work in the places that are occupied by Gastrobeiters, the trouble is that they are already everywhere! -An example from a personal: After the field season (October-May) I decided for the summer period (in his city) he will get a job as a road worker, at the employment center, they politely refused, under the pretext that I am "a local with a residence permit and all the necessary social services" and they have quotas only for residents of Central Asia))) - they are to blame This is the local authorities who turn a blind eye to the dishonesty of enterprise managers at the forefront of putting above profit and not employment of their indigenous population ...
      1. Denis
        Denis 5 December 2013 08: 47
        +4
        Quote: complete zero
        business leaders at the forefront putting over the profits and not the employment of their indigenous population ....
        It is believed that all these leaders are not indigenous, but sent from another planet or enemy
        1. RBLip
          RBLip 5 December 2013 09: 25
          +1
          Quote: Denis
          and from another planet or enemy sent

          in a word, complete devotees.
  4. complete zero
    complete zero 5 December 2013 08: 08
    +7
    Well, yes, imbued with Great Russian literature, the guest workers in a hurry will accept Orthodoxy, inflame with fraternal love for the Russians, and so on .... nonsense!
    1. Lapotnik
      Lapotnik 5 December 2013 10: 30
      +6
      I would like to note that the majority of Russian citizens do not know the culture of their country, history. Hence the question - what is she for a migrant? I think most of them go there not to get acquainted with Russian culture - on the territory of Russian cities there are already many "china cities" where they establish their own rules, but in order to get one more check mark for legalization.

      If we talk about joining the culture, then this should be done not by creating such centers for migrants, but by pursuing a large-scale policy for the whole country, and in the world. To know and respect.

      PS I am in awe of what they teach in schools - Russian children almost despise their country, history ... Yes, they stupidly do not know it, AND WHAT DOES THEIR CENTERS OF "TOLERANCE" MAKE ??
  5. Humpty
    Humpty 5 December 2013 08: 19
    +3
    Hunchback ... even I split up. And this program is painfully muddy, just right for stealing money.
  6. makarov
    makarov 5 December 2013 08: 20
    +4
    Again, all the same "rake" that comes.
    They give the officials "gifts" and "gratitude", they will receive crusts as "the most tolerant", and - "walk, lads, my mother got a pension !!" Live at ease in the state of Moscow, this is exactly what not a small fraction of the people consider it to be.
  7. shpuntik
    shpuntik 5 December 2013 08: 22
    +4
    ... classes with an applied orientation (as an example, such an option is given as training migrants to use the Moscow metro and a story about the features of the Moscow subway structure).

    I don’t understand anything. What to do, how to deal with it? Who is promoting this for our money? Want to grow new Breiviks?
    These ladies are the most dangerous:
    1. IGS
      IGS 5 December 2013 09: 41
      +3
      This is in what madhouse filmed? Or is it a joke that Europe has taken seriously? And so I see the Orthodox Jew kissing the Arab with pace, somewhere on the Dutch heights. laughing
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 5 December 2013 09: 43
      +2
      Ssssuka!
      But for some reason I am not surprised by either her nationality or her calls. But it wasn’t in Israel. They have not yet implemented this plan, but they already want "world domination".
      Doesn't remind of anything?

      "Greater Israel": A Zionist Plan for the Middle East.

      www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east
  8. erased
    erased 5 December 2013 08: 29
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    The center of tolerance is a border checkpoint where this tolerance will be checked quickly. All attempts to humanize real migrants from Central Asia, the Caucasus and citizens of the country from the Caucasus are worth little, while businessmen benefit from an influx of cheap and disempowered labor force, and bureaucrats and policemen have a passion for the Caucasians. While all this is beneficial, nothing will be fixed.
    On the streets, in the gates, in the houses, not ordinary bureaucrats and Kremlin sitters are killed and robbed, but ordinary people. And this is also beneficial for someone. To whom - everyone already knows.
  9. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 5 December 2013 08: 33
    13
    )) to introduce them to the highly developed Russian culture) he doesn’t know his culture either. and then right away from the smelly village and into civilization. He didn’t even wash his ass. And you about how spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater.))) suitable houses are attached, and scum stretches here.
    1. complete zero
      complete zero 5 December 2013 08: 49
      +3
      about "space open spaces" wherever it went, but about the device of the subway (you can count the water utility and so on) - a terrorist's dream!))))
  10. Nickanor
    Nickanor 5 December 2013 08: 35
    +9
    To freight wagons and home! For they are like a malignant tumor. am
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 December 2013 08: 45
    +9
    To this end, it was decided to begin an experiment to open the so-called special centers of tolerance at Moscow libraries


    Why are they needed there, spend money on them. If they are so needed, wouldn't it be easier to "select" before crossing our border?
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 5 December 2013 09: 22
      +5
      aszzz888 (1) RU Today, 08:45 AM New
      Why are they needed there, spend money on them. If they are so needed, wouldn't it be easier to "select" before crossing our border?

      Of course, it’s easier on the border, for this it is. There is a visionary policy, two or three generations ahead, and even further. Russians are poor to resist. Money can only be countered with money. If to be civilized.
      Here is a good selection, there is a fragment of Soviet documentary cinema:
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 5 December 2013 09: 47
        +4
        Hi Roma!
        Another one? Do you collect files? Are you making death lists?
        Do not be late with the implementation.
        No shame, no conscience, no honor for this little man ...

        Quote:
        - ... In fact, the Tajik family survived the mistress of her house.
        Gerber:
        - Oh well...
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 5 December 2013 10: 45
          +4
          Lieutenant
          Ptah SU Today, 09:47 ↑ New
          No shame, no conscience, no honor for this little man ...

          Hi Vadim! Yes, what conscience is already there, there is a struggle not for life, but for death.
          Yes, there are no lists here either; they themselves signed up there. That's just we are scattered, I am sorry about this.
  12. kafa
    kafa 5 December 2013 08: 51
    +8
    suitcase station aul am and tolerasts there too
  13. complete zero
    complete zero 5 December 2013 09: 01
    +5
    Laughing Laughing men, but this is not a shit .. but not funny
  14. Mhpv
    Mhpv 5 December 2013 09: 11
    16
    Who are you going to attach to Russian culture? Have you ever seen one Asian migrant in a museum?
    Was at the exhibition of the Romanovs, and so my wife immediately says "did you notice that not a single chu ... and?" indeed there were a lot of Russians and not only Muscovites, buses came from different cities, a lot of young people and even children, foreigners even get involved without living or working, but these are the same !!!
    They only need work, and even better citizenship and all, and they live according to their own laws.
    These centers of enthusiasts remind you: give me a drink, otherwise I feel like there is no place to spend the night, we decided to help, but now we need money.
    These centers should be established in those countries from which these citizens come and cross the border, having on hand a certificate of completion of data courses or pay for training in Russia at the entrance, and they must receive work permits at the Russian consulates, and not in Moscow, per night the whole district.
    1. complete zero
      complete zero 5 December 2013 09: 20
      +5
      Yes, we do not need them at all! not with what centers to survive them to the truth or not, or we will receive soon as in France (taking into account the Russian peculiarity)
  15. buzer
    buzer 5 December 2013 09: 14
    +7
    1) whoever wants to be tolerant, know and respect the language and customs of the people on whose territory he is staying, all these centers are not needed for him. 2) the majority of migrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus, for the most part, are quite young people who, in the absence of influence and control from the older generation, simply simply "lose their shores" 3) and to be honest, most migrants in Russia feel like "temporary workers" and therefore they are not going to change. So I see no reason to teach guest workers and spend budget funds on them. But if this migrant worker accepts citizenship, then they must be driven into these centers with "sticks" ...
  16. umah
    umah 5 December 2013 09: 31
    +6
    Doubtful measure. The opening of Russian secondary schools in the countries of the USSR and the priority in hiring those who graduated from such a school would have a greater effect. But this is a strategy with an eye on years to come, and our government officials have trouble with strategic thinking.
  17. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 5 December 2013 09: 52
    +5
    Libraries for "centers of tolerance"? Who came up with this? am Or did Muscovites stop visiting them at all? And if so, let’s fill them with migrants, we will kill all the birds with one stone. Let them live thereafter, five thousand each, so that they don’t be late for studies, we didn’t forget the classics of Russian literature in pictograms along the way.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 5 December 2013 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: Doctor Evil
      Libraries for "centers of tolerance"? Who came up with this?

      If these are libraries in the ITC or in the zones, then it’s normal ...
      Better yet, "SMU Library No. 3764" on the construction of the Barents Sea-Sea of ​​Okhotsk canal.
  18. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 5 December 2013 10: 06
    12
    It is not necessary to open centers, but to close borders. They dig into the brazen grave before our eyes, and are urged to be tolerant of such.
  19. Andreitas
    Andreitas 5 December 2013 10: 09
    +7
    What are tolerance classes? Sweep them out of here. And the more, the better.
  20. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 5 December 2013 10: 24
    +1
    center for migrants from Belarus ... At least, the strangeness of the Central Administrative District of a special center of tolerance for migrants causes attention, at least ... from Komi, Chuvashia and the Republic of Mordovia.

    Actually, strangeness is so weird, and what is interesting to the Russians they teach there.
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  22. kirgudu
    kirgudu 5 December 2013 10: 42
    +6
    For me the word tolerance tantamount to geefilia, pedophilia, immorality and softness.

    Why do not we need migrants, there are enough people already. But if the government buys the love of the Central Asian gods, letting migrants here - we need to think such a government and how we can influence the gods without causing damage to the Russian Federation.
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  24. USNik
    USNik 5 December 2013 11: 09
    +9
    I apologize that the picture is a bit vulgar, but in my opinion, it fully reflects the essence of the "tolerasts"
  25. Svyatoslavovich
    Svyatoslavovich 5 December 2013 12: 01
    +2
    Tolerance is alien to man in essence, and its opposite xenophobia (rejection of strangers) is the basis for the conservation of the species and is inherent in us by nature. Despite this, the joint coexistence of different cultures and peoples is possible, an example of this is the USSR, respect for each other, equality, taking into account mutual non-penetration.
  26. Svyatoslavovich
    Svyatoslavovich 5 December 2013 12: 34
    +2
    Unfortunately, the migration problem has several other roots. The fact is that the main consumer of human resources, in this case migrants from neighboring countries, are cities, and large ones in particular. The fact is that the city is not capable of self-reproduction of human resources, families that form in urban conditions, do not give birth to more than one child on average, and this leads to a decrease in the number of inhabitants, while the city must constantly grow for a successful existence. Previously, cities in Russia were replenished at the expense of rural settlements, but since life in the countryside was reduced to a state of impossible and hopeless by the efforts of the authorities, the villages were empty and no longer provide the population for the cities. So a situation arises in which the republics of the former union become the only residential area from which "people" can be drawn.
  27. Jack122
    Jack122 5 December 2013 13: 05
    +6
    If you cut down the costs of educating Russian children, you can spend much more on migrants. In Russia, migrant people love that they cannot live without them. People do not want migrants to hell, people want migrants to be educated and assimilated in society. And we are ready to spend any money on the craziest initiatives. By the way, Russian children have already gathered to teach the culture and traditions of the peoples of Central Asia from the kindergarten. Well, without sarcasm: I have a reasonable question, who assimilates whom? It feels like we need it most of all and, in general, all of Russia has moved to Dushanbe. Why should a Russian child study their national characteristics if a Russian child lives in Russia? Could it be logical in Central Asia to introduce Russian language and culture in schools in case they want to go to Russia at the expense of Central Asian countries? So no, they cut the Russian language everywhere and removed its study. It’s just that the whole situation annoys me very much. Theater of the absurd
  28. Owl
    Owl 5 December 2013 13: 18
    +5
    Tolerance for "quiet" occupiers? Education and medicine guest worker at my expense? All these proposals and borders, open for "citizens of the near abroad", from those who are sitting in the government or in the Duma, can afford to fly to Hawaii for the weekend, buy a yacht, and at the end of "work for the good of Russia" leave to live in the USA, Israel or Great Britain.
  29. dengy12
    dengy12 5 December 2013 13: 37
    +1
    Quote: buzer
    But if this migrant worker accepts citizenship, then they must be driven into these centers with "sticks" ...

    not better this way: if you want citizenship, go through training and pass the exam. well, it's like in the movie "pulp fiction" in an episode of ide, tarantino asked the maid as the full name of the 13 or 27 president of the united states
  30. Forest
    Forest 5 December 2013 13: 47
    +3
    Let us recall the last tolerant campaign campaign - they suggested that migrants visit museums for free (for a local fee), but they didn’t want to visit for free, they asked 500 rubles for visiting the museum http://www.rus-obr.ru/days/24234
    These cents are another fiction and everyone understands this, only no one is responsible for squandering the state budget.
  31. not good
    not good 5 December 2013 13: 52
    +5
    All these centers of tolerance are squandering of taxpayers' money, and responsible officials will earn money. In order to pay off the issue of hostility towards state workers, it is first necessary to introduce double taxes for employers for every foreign worker and prohibit legislative employment by a foreigner bypassing the labor exchange. And while there is black the labor market of state workers will be imported in heaps and there can be no talk of any tolerance.
  32. voin777
    voin777 5 December 2013 14: 19
    +7
    to hell with these migrants, the USSR is over, now they can’t be allowed into Russia, and in general I don’t understand HOW can you be tolerant to migrants if they build us death statistics?
  33. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 5 December 2013 15: 12
    10
    All this event can be safely called according to one Russian proverb - "Pea wall"...
    Those who are educated, who respect a foreign culture and know how to behave correctly, such centers are somehow unnecessary. They already show themselves worthy and are respected by others ...
    And those who have show-offs and ostentatious toughness prevail in behavior, who understand only brute force and submit only to it, who can’t correct and re-educate those who live on the centers among whom they live ... Like, for example, the deputy from Chechnya Mr. Delimkhanov ...
    So, in my opinion, this is a window dressing and a waste of time and money ...

    Chechen deputy Adam Delimkhanov. Neither a cell phone, nor a suit, nor a position made him a normal person. Do you think tolerance courses can do this? ..
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  35. mithridate
    mithridate 5 December 2013 16: 27
    +2
    But interestingly, in Paris, too, at first there were centers of tolerance?
  36. Savva30
    Savva30 5 December 2013 16: 35
    +5
    We will come to the two of you, me and my neighborhood ...
    Sobyanin: migrants must go home
    30.05.2013 11:06
    Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin spoke about the city's migration policy. According to the mayor, he does not welcome permanent residence of migrants from Central Asia in the capital. “I am opposed to these people just staying. If you leave someone, then, first of all, Russian-speaking, with a culture adequate to our traditions.
    Change your mind ???
  37. kaktus
    kaktus 5 December 2013 17: 18
    +4
    Almost everyone is right, only “whoever needs it” does not understand this. angry
    1. DS22
      DS22 5 December 2013 19: 33
      +2
      And she will never understand! It is beneficial for them to pursue such a national policy, to keep our society in constant tension, to replace deep social problems with the problem of migrants! It is much easier to bleed Russians with h ... mi, x ... mi, f ... mi and other, other .... and, by the guise, also identify and neutralize the passionate people who pose a real threat to the regime. No need to see the root of evil in the newcomer population, this is a consequence, and the reason is inside the country.
  38. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 5 December 2013 20: 14
    +4
    Tolerasts are like terrorists and n **** in one person.

    For undermining the labor market, threatening the employment of the local population, creating and legitimizing the conditions for illegal border crossing, identify the entire structure of the organizers, and bring them to trial.
  39. voliador
    voliador 5 December 2013 21: 53
    +5
    Moscow thought about how to more intensively integrate migrants into the metropolitan community.

    Yes, it is not necessary to integrate, but to deport!
  40. demotivator
    demotivator 6 December 2013 06: 14
    +4
    Why no one asks us, the indigenous people of Russia, about whether we want to see these migrants in our country at all? Why is no one from the authorities interested in our opinion on this issue, and on other, equally important issues, too? First, they organized a mass import of these migrants, then, when it became clear that the population rejected them, they began to impose tolerance. And what will happen next? Probably our children will be forced to learn the Tajik language - why not tolerance?
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 6 December 2013 14: 17
      0
      The reason is at a glance: the service responsible for preventing border violations is completely corrupt.
      The people are drunk, sleeping.
      Who doubts that the people are drunk, sleeping - go to roi.ru and see the scanty number of awakened people who advocate one or another effective initiative. Hundreds, rarely thousands. It is not even clear where the loafers roaming the rallies have gone.
  41. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 6 December 2013 12: 29
    +3
    The Russian proverb says: How many wolves do not feed, he still looks into the forest.
    Nothing sensible will come of this venture.
    My position of all illegal immigrants out of the country.
    Strengthen the border with a system of fortifications and engineering barriers, and guard it normally (that’s what you had to spend money on, and not on any Olympics, etc. crap).
    In the village, peasants always began to build the estate with a fence, and then they built everything else (here it is the wisdom of the ancestors).
    And our rulers still do not understand this elementary thing (or do not want, because it is beneficial for them).
    If all this is done (there is little to go under the bullets and on the mines of hunters), then there will be no illegal migration and the flow of heroin, etc. rubbish to our country.
  42. RPD
    RPD 6 December 2013 23: 44
    +2
    it seems to me that these centers will turn into Wahhabi cells