Long-term strategy for the destruction of the Russian people

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The war against Russian civilization

The origins of the demographic catastrophe are to be found in the policy that the liberal forces that captured Russia in 1991 year, which in their essence are the agents of the West’s long-term strategy to destroy the white race and Russian civilization, are still pursuing.

The masters of Western civilization - the so-called. “Financial international”, “world backstage”, the union of the old aristocratic families of the Old World and usury clans, create a new world order on the planet. They need to get full control over man and humanity - up to the introduction in the future of "electronic collars." And for this it is necessary to destroy the natural division of humanity into races, civilizations, language groups, ethnic groups. The ideal slave should not have racial, linguistic, cultural, civilizational and national roots. This should be Homo economicus - a man of economics. A person who lives only profit, instincts, seeking maximum profit, selfish and ruthless. Such a person will be a “brick” of a huge non-slave-owning civilization.

Within the framework of this strategy, it is necessary to solve the “Russian question” - to destroy the main geopolitical enemy on Earth, the Russian civilization and the superethnos of the Rus. By virtue of the fighting qualities of the Rus, Russian civilization has a spiritual and military potential, the ability to become the "king of the mountain", to lead the globalization process. Moreover, Russia can create a different model of world order on the planet, which will allow preserving racial, ethnic and cultural diversity. The masters of the West want to clear the Earth of "excess biomass" in order to restore ecological balance. Future "gods" want to live in a pure world. For decades, huge resources have been invested in biotechnology, the search for technologies to achieve active longevity, when the rich will live two or three hundred years and in the long term achieve "immortality."

However, Russia in 1930-1950-ies showed a different image of the future of mankind. In this future, it is not necessary to carry out the utilization of “excess biomass”, on the contrary, people are necessary for the creation, cognition, development of the near, and, in the long term, of deep space. Under Joseph Stalin, Russia showed the whole of humanity the way to the golden age, where material values ​​are diverted to second and third plans, and people are filled with energy not of buying and consuming, but of creative creation. The main values ​​of such a society are to serve the Motherland and to build, accumulate comprehensive knowledge. Comprehensive education and high morality were the goals of Soviet society. Material goods were a form of means, not a goal. Suffice it to recall the dream of the iron leader, which he expressed at the XIX Party Congress: each Soviet man had to have two higher educations. And in 1952, Joseph Vissarionovich suggested that in the future Soviet people should devote no more than 4-5 hours a day to work, and he can devote the rest of the time to self-education, culture, creativity and physical culture.

Stalin needed an educated and spiritually developed civil society. With such people, it was possible to build a “golden age society”. That is why in Stalinist USSR, managers, creators, warriors and workers were promoted to the first roles. It is they, not the merchants ("business elite"), actors and jesters, "stars" who do not come down from the TV screens, make up the real elite of civilization. Stalin's architecture (new imperial style), cinema (pre-war, military and post-war films), art, educational policy - everything was aimed at the formation of a man with a capital letter.

If the USSR had continued to move along the main road that Stalin had outlined for two or three decades, the planet would have seen the birth of a new civilization capable of leading humanity to the stars. Even after Stalin’s removal, Khrushchev’s “thaw” (the first attempt at “perestroika”), Brezhnev’s “stagnation” in the USSR, one could see the germ of this civilization. Its manifestations are Gagarin, Korolev, Keldysh, spaceships like the Buran, magnificent space and military developments, due to which modern Russian military-industrial complex retains its place in the group of world leaders.

The masters of the western project, possessing a conceptual power and will, saw and felt all this perfectly. They closely followed every step of Stalin's USSR. For the destruction of the Stalinist project, Hitler was nurtured and the infernal Third Reich was created. The Nazis were allowed to use psycho-technologies, which in a few years turned the Germans into an excellent fighting vehicle. Almost all of Europe was given to Hitler, and his legions were abandoned to eradicate the germ of the “golden age society”. Germans in this stories acted as a "fool", which was used as a tool. But Russian superethnos cannot be won in open battle. Russians are the people of creators and warriors who for thousands of years, from the time of the Aryans and Scythians (the direct ancestors of the Rus), have dominated Northern Eurasia. The battle of the titans ended in Berlin and Prague. A Soviet soldier drove his bayonet into the lair of the beast. The military aggression of the united Europe against the Soviet civilization failed. Moscow gained control of Eastern, Southeastern and Central Europe, having pushed back defensive lines to the west.

The organizers of the aggression realized that it was impossible to defeat the USSR-Russia using military strategy. So, it is necessary to change the strategy and persist in moving towards the goal. The information (“cold”) war began. Part of this strategy would be building a consumer society, this was discussed in the previous article of this cycle (What is the reason for such a pitiable demographic state of the Russian people? Part of 2), and the launch of self-destruction mechanisms of the people. After the elimination of Stalin, the USSR was able to move on the path of self-destruction. Refusal to build a just society (formally it was not, but in fact the process was stopped) and reconciliation with evil (talking about the concept of peaceful coexistence of the two systems: socialism and capitalism) predetermined the degradation and rebirth of the Soviet "elite", the death of the Soviet Union. At the time of Khrushchev and Brezhnev, Soviet society became essentially consumer, deprived of higher guidelines and values.

Since 1991, the destruction of another USSR achievement has begun - science and education. Soviet education retained the potential for building a just society. Suffice it to recall the statements of some Russian officials, including the leaders of the Ministry of Education and the honest admission of the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, that there should be as little as possible literate people with higher education in Russia, since they can start a new revolution. They can be understood. The more educated and smarter people are, the higher their claims to the state. Fools and drunkards are much easier to manage. True, such a society ultimately awaits destruction.

You can pay attention to the fact that under Stalin in the USSR thousands of seven-year and middle (complete) schools were built. In every village, even a small one, there was a seven-year-old. Thousands of technical schools were opened throughout the country. In fact, under Stalin, a magnificent Soviet high school was created. Like mushrooms after rain, institutes, universities, academies appeared all over the country. At the same time, a system of creative houses, houses of culture, music and art schools was created. There were thousands of urban and rural libraries, museums. Most importantly, education was free and affordable. For students built a hostel, helped financially. Adults could attend evening schools. All conditions were created for on-the-job study - the system of correspondence education. The Soviet education system was the best in the world, like science. The results began to be felt very soon: in 1954, the world's first industrial nuclear power plant in Obninsk was launched; 1957, the USSR launched the world's first artificial earth satellite, in the same year in the Soviet Union launched the world's first surface ship with a nuclear power plant, the nuclear icebreaker Lenin; in 1971, the Soviet people launched the world's first manned orbital station, Salyut-1, and in 1986, the world's first orbital station of the modular type Mir (Salyut-8). The Soviet Union was the first person to go into space: on April 12 of YNGX, Yury Gagarin flew; in the same year, German Titov became the second person in space and the first person to complete a long space flight (more than 24 hours); in 1961, Valentina Tereshkova became the first woman astronaut in the world; in 1963, the first multi-seat Voskhod spacecraft in the world flew in the world, there were three people in the crew - Vladimir Komarov, Konstantin Feoktistov and Boris Egorov; in 1964, Alexey Leonov was the first in the world to go into outer space.

The last more than two decades of the history of the Russian Federation have been almost wasted. There is nothing to be proud of. Even military developments - completely modernizing Soviet projects. The current advertising Olympiad-2014 only emphasizes the wretchedness of being of modern Russia and the brilliant Soviet past. A consumer society and a society of creation and knowledge are like two different universes. Tens of billions buried and stolen for fun. Thousands of schools, kindergartens and other educational, educational and cultural institutions are “optimized” (destroyed). Thousands of settlements have disappeared from the face of the earth.

It was 1991 that year, when liberal forces seized power in the country, led to a catastrophe in the field of demography. In the 1990-ies, the people were subjected to a real attack, socio-economic, drug, alcohol and tobacco genocide. The consequences of the “reforms” (the purposeful destruction of the life support system) became worse than the Nazi invasion. Can say that the reduction of the population of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus is not natural, but man-made. The liberals acted as if following the strategy of Hitler, created for the occupied territory. In 1942, the foundations of the occupation policy in the seized eastern territory were formed. In his brief directive, Adolf Hitler wrote: “It is necessary to reduce the Slavs to sign language. No hygiene, no vaccinations. Only vodka and tobacco. In the occupied territory, the conquered population did not rely neither schools, nor teachers, nor cinema - only vodka and tobacco, and also dance and music (pay attention to the orgy of various "factories of stars," dances with stars "on TV). Liberals act as real occupiers, seize (privatize) those productions that can bring profits to their accomplices - oligarchs, destroy those systems that cannot bring them quick profits, “optimize” science, education, culture. At the same time, the population is subjected to drug, alcohol and tobacco genocide. The criminal and sexual revolution completes the occupation process. The program "sex, drugs and rock and roll" has worked well on the decomposition of the white civilization in the United States and Western Europe, and since 1991, it began its destructive work in Eastern Europe, in the post-Soviet republics.

Liberals in fact, consciously or unconsciously, implemented in Russia a long-term program of destruction created in the West. They created a “pipe economy” that can be served by two or three tens of millions of people, the rest of the population is “unpromising”, “excessive” and “economically unprofitable”. According to some reports, the former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher once said that Russia has enough 15 million people to serve the extraction of natural resources, their transportation to the West, to provide repair of communications. It must be said that in the sphere of economics the liberals did not invent anything themselves, but only realized the program of Nazi Germany. In Goering's “Green Folder” there is an entry from 15 July 1941goda: “The use of the areas to be occupied should be made primarily in the field of food and oil industries. To get as much food and oil as possible for Germany is the main economic goal of the campaign. ” Liberals implemented this program: Russia for two decades has been turned into a raw materials appendage of the West and the East. Oil, natural gas, metals, timber, grain, everything that is necessary for the development of Russia itself, is sold for cut paper. They take out everything that is necessary for the normal life of many generations of Russian citizens. Resources are exchanged for paper, and then goods are bought for it abroad. Hazardous food, drinks, goods of light and electronics industries (domestic industry killed), luxury goods, etc., are being brought to Russia.

A terrible blow was dealt to children and adolescents. Their pure consciousness poisoned skillfully and carefully. From the doctrine of the director of the CIA A. Dulles, 1945 year: "We will strongly support and raise the so-called artists who will implant and hammer into the consciousness the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality." The result is terrible. Beer, champagne and wine, often with the support of parents, children begin to try in 10 years, they smoke from 11-12 years, from 13 years they begin to know "doggy sex" (you can't call it love, purely animal manifestation). Russia leads in terms of adolescent smoking among Eastern European countries. Up to a quarter of Russian teenagers 13-15 years smoke, and 90% - passive smokers who are forced to inhale tobacco poison at home and in public places. The level of beer consumption in the adolescent environment is very high: 50-60% of adolescents consume beer on holidays, a third - once a month, half - once a week, 10-15% several times a week (in fact, already beer alcoholics).

I will give an example from life experience. He taught for three years in the cadet class: all the boys tried alcohol, a third constantly smoked, several people drank, including vodka and moonshine, every week, one or two were already on the verge of alcoholism. Moreover, from 20 guys there was not one completely healthy, all of them had any deviations, from mental problems to problems with eyesight, heart, gastrointestinal diseases, etc. All of these are consequences of the 1991 geopolitical catastrophe of the year.

Russia in the 1990-ies took one of the first places in the world in terms of mortality, especially among men of working age; by the number of murders and suicides; on the scale of consumption of drugs, alcohol and smoking; by the number of abortions; in terms of infertility both among women and men; low birth rate; by the number of orphans and children deprived of parental care; in terms of crime, corruption, prostitution, etc. Each item took tens, hundreds of thousands of lives.

So, only abortions take 1,7-2 million annually. According to unofficial data, the figure is even worse - up to 6 million lives. Every fourth artificial abortion on the planet is made in Russia. According to this indicator, we are the absolute leader in the world. Only by introducing a ban on abortion, as under Stalin, we would solve the demographic problem. It would begin to increase the population at the expense of the indigenous population. Liberals and in the field of abortion became the guides of Hitler’s strategy to destroy the Russian people. In the 1942 year, a directive of one of the leaders of the Third Reich, Martin Bormann, was issued, it said: “If women and girls in the occupied eastern territories have abortions, then we should only welcome this. German lawyers should not object to this. According to the Fuhrer, intensive trade in contraceptives should be allowed in the occupied eastern regions, since we are not interested in the growth of the non-German population. ”

During the post-Yeltsin period, the situation has not fundamentally changed, although the third five-year plan for Vladimir Putin’s power will soon end. There are some positive developments, but they are not of a fundamental nature. The authorities of the country de facto recognized their inability to solve the demographic problem, giving the "green light" to the mass importation of migrants. Otherwise, you will have to recognize the criminal nature of the actions of a number of prominent leaders of the USSR-Russia over the past decades, carry out demonstration processes over the "enemies of the people", change the concept of Russia's development from unfair to fair, change the value priorities of society in a country where capitalism and the "golden calf" won . Putin has repeatedly said that revising the results of privatization is impossible, which confirmed his loyalty to the comprador bourgeoisie. Obviously, such a burden is beyond his power.

In Russian society, the feeling of infidelity of the course of the current Putin-Medvedev tandem is already growing. Thus, according to the latest poll by Levada Center, Vladimir Putin’s actions as president have reached the maximum rejection rate for 12 years: 31% of Russians do not support the actions of the head of state. Up to 29%, the proportion of citizens who describe their current impression of Vladimir Putin as mostly unfavorable has grown. These figures are two times higher than during the first and second presidential terms of Vladimir Putin, then the level of rejection reached only 9-15%. The main reason for the growth of negative attitudes towards the president is the lack of clear prospects for the development of the state. In particular, who will now recall the “Putin’s plan” that was advertised in the election campaign of the United Russia party on the eve of the parliamentary and presidential elections in 2007 and 2008 respectively? Shouted, promised, and forgotten. No great goals and horizons for the country were announced by Vladimir Putin. The presence of spectacles - the Olympics in Sochi, the World Cup and so on - does not redeem the lack of real achievements and victories, the lack of a goal. You can not endlessly leave to save the country from the collapse of the 1999-2001. and "stability." In order for Russia to survive a global systemic crisis — and the second wave is approaching, which may be followed by a serious regional conflict and an even more serious outburst of violence all over the planet — it is necessary to return the ship called “Russia” to the Stalinist course of building a society of creation and cognition. A consumer society will not survive the global storm.

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  1. +7
    4 December 2013 08: 18
    Within the framework of this strategy, it is necessary to solve the “Russian question” - to destroy the main geopolitical adversary on Earth, Russian civilization and the superethnos of the Rus.


    In history there have already been such "figures" who wanted to destroy the Russians, remember Hitler, well, and how he ended up so - remember.
    1. +22
      4 December 2013 09: 08
      Quote: ... Author Samsonov Alexander
      since the time of the Aryans and Scythians (direct ancestors of the Rus), dominated in Northern Eurasia.


      And I do not want to be a "true Aryan", after that, as a rule, loyalty to some Fuhrer or party follows.

      Quote: ... Author Samsonov Alexander
      In Russian society, a sense of infidelity of the course of the current tandem of Putin - Medvedev is already ripening


      What a tandem, what are you talking about:
      - The current president, Putin, sets tasks for the future Prime Minister Putin?
      1. +1
        4 December 2013 17: 53
        Yes, the author needs to show that the whole country is against Grandpa Pu, so he talks about how much he is rated poorly, tactfully silent that many more people rate him positively.
        commonplace manipulation of opinion, at what cheap.
        the main thing is to insert more loud phrases into the text and put pressure on pride.
      2. -8
        4 December 2013 22: 16
        There is a tandem, albeit unequal.
        Yes, if it were equal, then the matter would go to a split in Russia.
        Medvedev is therefore valuable to Putin for not betraying.
        Putin gave him power for a while. Medvedev returned power without any problems when the time came and thereby strengthened his position.
        Medvedev after Putin, if he does not make mistakes and proves himself in solving economic problems, will be Putin's successor.
        1. +12
          5 December 2013 00: 36
          If Medvedev is Putin’s successor, then this is a disaster for the country. IMHO
          1. 225chay
            +8
            5 December 2013 07: 24
            Quote: demel2
            If Medvedev is Putin’s successor, then this is a disaster for the country. IMHO

            The topic of the article is "long-term strategy for the destruction of the Russian people"
            Absolutely reflecting the true state of affairs!
            There is a veiled genocide of the Slavic people
      3. Uhe
        Uhe
        +2
        5 December 2013 23: 57
        What does the "true Aryan" have to do with it? It is like saying whether someone is the true son of his father or not. All Caucasians are the descendants of Arius, as well as the Slavs are the descendants of Sloven, who, in turn, is also a descendant of Arius :) But the Nazi delirium remains nonsense. There the Jews are the descendants of Adam, and they are not ashamed of this, but on the contrary.
    2. +19
      4 December 2013 09: 36
      Hitler is not entirely indicative, this is an external enemy, but against an external enemy, our country has always been united by the USSR, it was a single camp, now, alas, society is divided, both in terms of wealth and mentality (the younger generation is completely different with different values), yes and such territorial unity is not observed ("the love of the regions for Moscow") and so on ... so the article is correct in Russia there are serious problems that are "like a balm for the soul of our enemies" ...
      1. +4
        4 December 2013 17: 58
        when trouble comes, everyone unites, and do not underestimate the current generation, as everyone laughed at the Pepsi generation, but it showed itself well in Chechnya.
      2. mnn_13
        +8
        5 December 2013 02: 34
        Very interesting, I think it would be for you to get acquainted with what was happening in Bulgaria. Those technologies that, as a whole, in Russia failed all the same in Bulgaria have achieved full success as a result of the collaboration of the corrupt ruling elite.
        The result is a demographic catastrophe, the value degradation of the younger (and not only younger), comprehensive degradation and devaluation of the educational system, the collapse of the healthcare system, the unlimited looting of the country's human resources (more capable young people go to the West, and external NGOs make sure that this robbery does not stop) . And all this against the background of continuous and systematic anti-Russian propaganda.
        The goals are visible - often the territory of the country will be given to Turkey and the healed population will lose their Slavic identity. In order to achieve the latter, Satanization of Russia and the presentation of history are important.
    3. +30
      4 December 2013 09: 38
      It is impossible to destroy Russia by military means.
      It can be destroyed from within by transferring power in the state to traitors like Judas Gorbachev, puppets like drunkards Yeltsin.
      And what is the situation in Russia now? Who is Putin now?
      When
      No great goals and horizons were declared before the country by Vladimir Putin. The presence of spectacles - the Olympics in Sochi, the World Cup, etc. - does not atone for the lack of real achievements and victories, the absence of a goal.
      You can not endlessly travel to preserve the country from the collapse in 1999-2001. and "stability." (from article)

      Who is Putin and where is he leading Russia?
      To the creation of a single Eurasian state from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine - I agree!
      I do not agree to the further consolidation of oligarchic capitalism in Russia and, accordingly, the degradation of Russia and its people!
      And this disagreement with Putin’s domestic policy, I think is the reason for the legitimate replacement of Putin in power during the next election.
      1. -1
        4 December 2013 10: 02
        Vladimir, and who to change? look at the leaders of the opposition ... and catch yourself thinking, let Putin be forever!
        1. +41
          4 December 2013 10: 30
          Quote: complete zero
          look at the leaders of the opposition ... and catch yourself thinking, let Putin be forever!

          How convenient, isn't it? So maybe this situation is created artificially?
          1. -5
            4 December 2013 11: 38
            Ingvar is convenient or not rhetoric, and the facts are that there is simply no option to replace Putin with anyone today, if you want my opinion, there is a desire that a professional economist would be at the helm of the country (where are these professionals?) not just another peep .. for some MASS! -Well, or such a leader (patriot of the country) as Winston Churchill or Augusto Pinochet (this is my opinion)
            1. +25
              4 December 2013 11: 54
              Quote: complete zero
              like Winston Churchill or Augusto Pinochet (this is my opinion)

              Or Lukashenko. I absolutely agree, there is no alternative to Putin now, but is this not worrying you? Most people here are thinking, and they will not change the bad king for the worse. In my opinion, the government artificially created no alternatives, cutting off potential patriotic leaders and slipping controlled opposition. hi
              P.S. I consider Navalny and Udaltsov to be provocateurs specially created in order to delay some of those who disagree with the authorities.
              1. cenych
                -10
                4 December 2013 12: 01
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                In my opinion, the government artificially created no alternatives, cutting off potential patriotic leaders and slipping controlled opposition. hi

                In order to cut them off, do they have to somehow light up, or did we have telepathy in order to immediately replace them with thoughts?
                1. +13
                  4 December 2013 12: 30
                  Quote: cenych
                  To cut them off, they must somehow light up.

                  Well, for example, here, on the site, we are all here glowing with our bright thoughts. Or don't you believe in Snowden's "fairy tales"? Everything else is described in the catechesis of the Jews, and step by step. hi
                  1. 3.7.964
                    +7
                    4 December 2013 15: 55
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Everything else is described in the catechism of the Jews, and step by step.

                    Oh, by the way, where's the Judeanut? Here the crown is such, but they are not there, and I want to settle the scandal. laughing
                    1. +9
                      4 December 2013 16: 29
                      Quote: 3.7.964
                      Oh, by the way, where's the Judeanut?

                      They are now on the Ukrainian topic. They also "RULE" there. As Lermontov said- "He speaks in all dialects, most likely that it is .... um, miser"laughing
                  2. cenych
                    0
                    4 December 2013 23: 27
                    Our glow here, solid "bunches in the air", there are a lot of heroes on the Internet, but only in it. Should shine on the political arena of Russia.
                    1. fisherman
                      0
                      4 December 2013 23: 30
                      Shine on the political arena of Russia.


                      it is necessary to shine among the people, in the regions, in the outback

                      and on "armored cars" let the modern Bolsheviks shine, this is a classic :)
              2. 0
                4 December 2013 14: 45
                Well said.
              3. +4
                4 December 2013 18: 04
                but can you tell me an alternative to Minin and Pozharsky?
                To Prince Donskoy? Zhukov?
                but that is the opinion that history itself brings Russia the right person when standing at the edge of the abyss.
                1. +8
                  4 December 2013 18: 18
                  Quote: just explo
                  that history itself brings Russia the right person while standing at the edge of the abyss.

                  Hope in God, but Himself not be bad. Minin and Pozharsky are sitting with us. The financial elites will not let the situation go by itself. Moreover, they have leverage.
                  1. +1
                    4 December 2013 20: 50
                    tell the walker, laugh together.
            2. +12
              4 December 2013 12: 29
              Yeah! Liberal economists malovoy something!
              A statesman is needed! Who Russia and its peoples will faithfully SERVE.
              But Putin doesn’t allow such people a mile away from power, just as someone would turn up for mayor, so after a year of his dear little white hands in a pre-trial detention center.
              1. +10
                4 December 2013 12: 33
                Quote: Duelist
                his dear little white hands in jail.

                Or heifers in the bath slipped. Nothing human is alien to real peasants. laughing
            3. 3.7.964
              +17
              4 December 2013 14: 44
              Quote: complete zero
              Ingvar, convenient or not, is rhetoric, and the facts are that there is simply no option to replace Putin with anyone else today,

              Have you tried to search the prisons? Well, for example: Kvachkova or Khabarov?
          2. +7
            4 December 2013 17: 12
            Ingvar 72, yes, of course, artificially, and this has been observed in Russia throughout the post-perestroika period. Remember the "elections" of Gorbachev and Yeltsin and remember their rivals in the "elections". So, after all, there is no one to look at - one peel. Were specially selected. No one gives up power so easily, especially after 15 years. For a rival adequate to Putin in terms of political weight to appear, a corresponding party must appear. And any party means, first of all, money and big money! Very big. For example, in Ukraine, who gave the money for their Maidan? This is how many people toil there and how many days! And how many more days will there be? And every day, each head gets its own money. There is a struggle for power over Ukraine and that says it all. Well, and the Russian population clung to Putin for only one reason: "We live and thank God, no matter how it gets worse. This one at least lets you breathe."
          3. Pinochet000
            +6
            4 December 2013 18: 49
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            So maybe this situation is created artificially?

            Of course, artificially. And to Alexander Samsonov is a separate Blagodary.
        2. 0
          4 December 2013 15: 01
          Quote: full zero
          Vladimir, and who to change? look at the leaders of the opposition ... and catch yourself thinking, let Putin be forever!


          If GDP is a fan of Russia, then it is necessary for him to prepare for any generational change. There is nothing eternal in order to survive under the onslaught of the West, one must be strong.
          1. olviko
            +11
            4 December 2013 16: 14
            "If GDP is rooting for Russia, then it needs to prepare a generational change anyway."

            The former head of the military counterintelligence of the Bundeswehr, General Kamosa, published the book "The Secret Games of the Secret Services", where he directly writes that according to the post-war German-American agreements, each new German Chancellor who comes to rule the country must immediately after the elections come to the United States and sign a document called "Chancellor-Act". The term for the end of the "Chancellor Act" is 2099.
            A political columnist for Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Faenko, six months ago, in one of his articles, posted his "bomb" ... He writes that in the United States, many prominent political figures and big businessmen are unhappy that Russia does not adhere to the unspoken agreements that were signed by it leaders. So what did our leaders sign in 1991?

            More details: http://russview.ru/read/623-yurij-drozdov-vsyo-uzhasnoe-dlya-rossii-tolko.html
            1. Yarosvet
              +4
              4 December 2013 16: 51
              Quote: olviko
              So what did our leaders sign in 1991?

              Contract with the Anunahs laughing And what? The version is no worse than the version of Camos.
            2. +4
              4 December 2013 18: 07
              An ideal slave should not have racial, linguistic, cultural, civilizational or national roots. It must be Homo economicus - an economic person. A person who lives only by profit, instincts, strives for maximum profit, selfish and ruthless. Such a person will be the "brick" of a huge non-slavery civilization.

              I do not want such a future, even to the liberal west, especially Russia.

              Evil empires speedy self-destruction.
          2. +1
            4 December 2013 21: 31
            Quote: Sandov
            If GDP is a fan of Russia, then it is necessary for him to prepare for any generational change

            So he had already prepared one small .... Then the hair must have been torn under the armpits ....
        3. +1
          4 December 2013 15: 04
          Quote: complete zero
          Vladimir, and who to change? look at the leaders of the opposition ... and catch yourself thinking, let Putin be forever!

          Me! (Pull my hand) -Me! laughing
          I will make everyone happy at once. And who does not want to ... angry
        4. +3
          4 December 2013 18: 02
          Life will push when it begins. We don’t know these people yet.
          1. +2
            5 December 2013 10: 12
            Life will push when it begins. We don’t know these people yet.

            On an empty land a good spike does not rise, one weedy grass.
      2. Yarosvet
        +5
        4 December 2013 16: 45
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Who is Putin and where is he leading Russia?
        To the creation of a single Eurasian state from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine - I agree!
        I do not agree to the further consolidation of oligarchic capitalism in Russia and, accordingly, the degradation of Russia and its people!

        And with the creation of a single Eurasian state from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, with the consolidation of oligarchic capitalism in it? - this is the answer to the question of where it leads, if that ...
      3. +2
        4 December 2013 18: 01
        and who ever said that the oligarchic system awaits us?
        Why do you think they didn’t close the opposition right away but gave free rein so that they could kick the bureaucrats?
        why does a bunch of sites open where ordinary people can see how budget money is spent?
        and this, under Putin, I don’t remember a single billionaire from mining in the bowels, mainly traders and so on.
        1. +5
          4 December 2013 18: 45
          they simply do not shine, and the corruption monster of modern Russia is a collective oligarch
    4. Airman
      +21
      4 December 2013 10: 03
      Quote: aszzz888


      In history there have already been such "figures" who wanted to destroy the Russians, remember Hitler, well, and how he ended up so - remember.

      Hitler is an enemy from outside, an alien, and the whole people stood up to fight him, and these are internal enemies, and they are in power, and the WHOLE REPRESSIVE machine is in their hands, and this is a terrible external intervention.
      1. +13
        4 December 2013 13: 13
        Quote: Povshnik
        the enemies are internal, and they are in power, and the WHOLE REPRESSIVE machine is in their hands, and this is more terrible than external intervention.


        I agree, you can add to this:
        During the post-Yeltsin period, the situation has not fundamentally changed, although the third five-year plan for Vladimir Putin’s power will soon end. There are some positive developments, but they are not of a fundamental nature. The authorities of the country de facto recognized their inability to solve the demographic problem, giving the "green light" to the mass importation of migrants. Otherwise, you will have to recognize the criminal nature of the actions of a number of prominent leaders of the USSR-Russia over the past decades, carry out demonstration processes over the "enemies of the people", change the concept of Russia's development from unfair to fair, change the value priorities of society in a country where capitalism and the "golden calf" won . Putin has repeatedly said that revising the results of privatization is impossible, which confirmed his loyalty to the comprador bourgeoisie. Obviously, such a burden is beyond his power.


        those. For the last 15 years, frightened by a possible revolution - an explosion of popular anger in a country that possesses (so far) nuclear weapons (I definitely cannot give them in hand), they decided to slowly but surely finish .......... for this they even created the illusion of a full life in some cities.
        It is a pity for people who do not understand that their well-fed life can end in one hour, who do not understand that in the west they hope they are not needed - they are used until .....
        1. +13
          4 December 2013 14: 59
          It is a pity for people who are convinced that their well-fed life will never end. It is a pity for our children who will live with the country that we requested ... if.
          1. Airman
            +2
            4 December 2013 21: 13
            Quote: Valkyrie
            It is a pity for people who are convinced that their well-fed life will never end. It is a pity for our children who will live with the country that we requested ... if.

            That's right, it's YOU, Muscovites, pros ... or. You lived "badly", and YOU wanted a BETTER life. And the fact that the people were against EBNatik, you were our FOUNDATION.
        2. Airman
          0
          4 December 2013 20: 21
          Quote: APES

          It is a pity for people who do not understand that their well-fed life can end in one hour, who do not understand that in the west they hope they are not needed - they are used until .....

          I want to finish the phrase, yet ... the USA and the West need them, and then they will be thrown out, like waste material or slag.
    5. +5
      4 December 2013 14: 58
      Quote: aszzz888
      Within the framework of this strategy, it is necessary to solve the “Russian question” - to destroy the main geopolitical adversary on Earth, Russian civilization and the superethnos of the Rus.


      In history there have already been such "figures" who wanted to destroy the Russians, remember Hitler, well, and how he ended up so - remember.


      I agree with you, and yet you can’t rest on our laurels. Raise the industry (I mean all the technologies, including agricultural). Only in this case, the geyropa and the evil empire break their teeth.
      1. fisherman
        +3
        4 December 2013 17: 18
        I agree with you, and yet you can’t rest on our laurels. Raise the industry (I mean all the technologies, including agricultural). Only in this case, the geyropa and the evil empire break their teeth.


        you need to work hard and give birth a lot

        but here you are prompted an easier way: just change the king :)
    6. +3
      4 December 2013 15: 04
      Just before, every Russian man was preparing to repel a foreign attack. And now? How much can you take from your ancestors and do nothing yourself? Are you sure that Russian power will answer those who do not fasten and grow it every day, like their ancestors?
      1. -2
        4 December 2013 18: 54
        the author mixed cockroaches with cutlets in one dish.
    7. +3
      4 December 2013 20: 01
      Not to be "Ivan, not remembering kinship" - it's up to us.
    8. +3
      4 December 2013 21: 26
      Quote: aszzz888
      In history there have already been such "figures" who wanted to destroy the Russians, remember Hitler, well, and how he ended up so - remember.

      And now we are destroying ourselves, and with tenacity worthy of another application
    9. Yoshkin Kot
      -4
      5 December 2013 12: 11
      like, apparently, Judo-Bolshevik experiments with executions of Russian people, starving them, destroying the Russian K (x) Christian family, had a positive effect on population growth? recession began in the ussr
    10. +2
      6 December 2013 08: 09
      Therefore, We, the Slavs, must carry a healthy lifestyle, multiply and multiply, do not mix blood and prepare as always for war. And then relaxed. And return to paganism, because Christ is a specially trained Jew. And they came up with Christianity just to conquer and subjugate our minds!
      1. 0
        6 December 2013 14: 10
        So he was sent to only Jews, and then cunning money-grubbers dragged the horror story further.

        Paganism, a word that is terrible for other zombies - but this is reverence for our own ancestors.
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  2. Valery Neonov
    +27
    4 December 2013 08: 19
    Liberosov on the lanterns and in the zones, depending on the degree of disgust in relation to Russia, the rest of the "marsh" will be dumped for the cordon and will become EXPLICIT ENEMIES OF THE RUSSIAN STATE. And this is not secret, you always know what to expect from him. WHAT IS ALL EVIL FOR US. hi
    1. -2
      4 December 2013 09: 38
      Do you propose a revolution, smoothly turning into a civil war? PS-Well, then I'm sorry in the forest (good in my area there are not enough of them)
    2. +15
      4 December 2013 09: 48
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      .BUT TO START IT IS NECESSARY WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND GD.TAM ALL EVIL

      You speak right.
      So who does this government appoint with us?
      It is necessary to start with it.
      1. +19
        4 December 2013 10: 47
        Quote: Yarylo
        So who does this government appoint with us?


        According to the Russian scenario, the government appoints the president, he then appoints himself prime minister, and then he is elected as president and all over again ....
      2. +4
        4 December 2013 15: 01
        It appoints itself in us. And you don’t know.
        1. fisherman
          0
          4 December 2013 17: 21
          why do you go to the polls? :)
    3. +12
      4 December 2013 10: 34
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Liberosov on lanterns and in zones depending on the degree of disgust towards Russia

      The whole cabinet? And the deputy corps too? Excuse me, dear, who will rule us? laughing Joking as a joke, but judging by our government not by words but by deeds, then it should be in full force where you said it. hi
    4. Yarosvet
      +7
      4 December 2013 16: 57
      Quote: Valery Neon
      Liberos on the lanterns
      Start ...
      1. fisherman
        0
        4 December 2013 17: 26
        and where does such a craving for the liberal press come from?

        "neoliberalism is another re-edition of Bolshevism" (J. Stiglitz)

        what is the exact diagnosis, isn't it? :)
      2. +1
        4 December 2013 18: 08
        you can say anything, Putin's "liberalism" is as different from Western liberalism as Stalin's communism from Trotsky's communism, and here and there communism, red flags and so on, but the matter is different.
        1. fisherman
          +1
          4 December 2013 18: 28
          But the thing is different.


          because the pockets are different :)

          over time, private interests always triumph over the public

          therefore any light, kind, beautiful-minded slogans, for example, "Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood", always lead

          to new human inventions, for example, to the invention of the guillotine :)
          1. +1
            4 December 2013 20: 52
            different influence groups, this millennium war, Rome and Carthage and the same song, with which they are not the first, history is an example.
    5. +2
      4 December 2013 18: 47
      No, dear, you need to start not with the president or with the State Duma, but with yourself ......
      1. Pinochet000
        +2
        4 December 2013 19: 04
        Quote: DS22
        and myself ......

        It is true, for a start, wake up from an obsession, allow yourself to look at the world around us not from the matrix ...
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    1. makarov
      +8
      4 December 2013 08: 31
      It is high time ..... mother, MIND RUSSIA understand.
      И.Г.
      1. +13
        4 December 2013 09: 44
        Here is a real patriot of Russia, he has long formulated the cultural and patriotic development of Russia! Academician Vernadsky was a true patriot of Russia, a citizen of the Soviet Union and a faithful son of planet Earth, taking care of its happy future. He always closely linked the development of science with the progress of his native country in all directions, with the solution of important tasks of economic, social and cultural development, ensuring the independence and security of Russia. In 1918, he refused to accept Ukrainian citizenship from hetman Skoropadsky, because considered himself a Russian person and was against the renaming of the Little Russians - Russian people, invented by the Austrian special services - Ukrainians. As the first president of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences (1918-1919), he considered his main cultural and social task - the preservation of Russian culture in Ukraine. Despite disagreements with the Bolsheviks, V.I. Vernadsky did not become an emigrant, but devoted his life to the development of Soviet science. For his fruitful work, in 1943 he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor and awarded the Stalin Prize.
  4. +17
    4 December 2013 08: 25
    Taxi out. Again, contrary, but we will taxi out. Good conquers evil. or at least survives a battle with him. We are surviving the whole story like this, we will break through now.
    1. +25
      4 December 2013 08: 46
      Quote: FC Skif
      Taxi out

      Under one condition, SKIF. If the course of power changes and Putin begins to destroy the system he created.
      Let's see next year will show how the situation will turn.
      Putin will begin to change, will sit until the age of 18. He will not begin, his career will end in 2015.
      1. +6
        4 December 2013 09: 26
        GDP as a project ran out of steam, even despite the physical (obvious)) replacement of humans performing the "role" of alpha males, submersible divers and catchers of "fish")))
        "stability" the imperious Wait will be violated, the electorate will be shown something "new" ...

        Only now the people have changed)))))) It will be interesting, see the boom)))))))
        Well, who wants to go deep))) here is the insinuations on this subject
        after taking cognac (to expand consciousness))))
        A Tale or a Story about Putin (explaining everything)) ...
        http://vserusskie.ru/group/topic/?id=6c6dd63f1ea84de2858fdb7551ef658e#Topic
        1. +9
          4 December 2013 09: 31
          Quote: Asgard
          GDP as a project ran out of steam

          You think a trick, Asgard?
          Maybe you are not so far from the truth.
      2. +17
        4 December 2013 09: 30
        Quote: baltika-18
        If the course of power changes and Putin begins to destroy the system he created.


        I'm not sure about the system. But the BZHRK station MIR, Lourdes and Camran destroyed.

        For reference, one BZHRK division, with only 4 trains, is comparable in power to three Topol divisions 135 tractors
        1. Valery Neonov
          +3
          4 December 2013 12: 31
          Well, Camran returned:Vietnam decided to return the Kamran naval base to Russian sailors.
          see http: //www.tpp-inform.ru/analytic_journal/4091.html hi
      3. fisherman
        +1
        4 December 2013 17: 34
        Let's see next year will show how the situation will turn


        nothing will change

        the change of the king will not lead to deep (mental, but not superficial) changes in public life

        "everything will be as it was before"

        that's why such wonderful ideas as the Unified State Exam and "the replacement of thieving generals with honest girls from the tax department" will lead to a large number of obscene words in all Internet spaces :)

        although they started with rave reviews and tossing women's hats in the air)
    2. +3
      4 December 2013 11: 15
      It’s well said, of course, it’s all too expensive for our country, we’ll only have time to fight off external enemies, and cleanse the scum from the world’s half, we’ll start to recover our Jews, fed up by the state depot and other external enemies of Russia.
  5. +10
    4 December 2013 08: 25
    For our people, stagnation is really contraindicated by God. As we begin to linger and immediately fall, we constantly need a leader who makes a drive. The article is good, half in the style of the film Spirit of the Time.
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  7. +12
    4 December 2013 08: 29
    Not everything is as bad as the author writes, slowly comes to people the realization that they are not united by bread and circuses.
    1. Airman
      +19
      4 December 2013 09: 20
      Quote: bomg.77
      Not everything is as bad as the author writes, slowly comes to people the realization that they are not united by bread and circuses.

      It came to normal people a long time ago, or rather it didn’t pass, only those in power think differently. And they deliberately destroy the Russian people, relying on Asian migrant workers.
      1. +15
        4 December 2013 09: 59
        Air Defense Officer (2) SU "This came to normal people a long time ago, or rather did not pass, only those in power think differently. And they purposefully destroy the Russian people, relying on Asians-guest workers."
        -------------------------------------------------- ----------------
        I fully share your opinion! One could recall many negative things now, but I think this is already known. I will give only such an excerpt from the article:
        In Russian society, a sense of the incorrectness of the course of the current tandem of Putin-Medvedev is already ripening. So, according to the latest Levada Center poll, Vladimir Putin’s actions as president reached a maximum rejection rate in 12 years: 31% of Russians do not support the actions of the head of state
        And now I will express such a "seditious" thought. Yes, people see everything and understand a lot. How to stop the decline in the popularity of government officials among the people? Our ENEMIES need this current power Here and NOW! Therefore, it must be somehow supported to continue its destructive activity INSIDE the country. Here's one possible trick. To organize a "victory" at the international level !? Why not an option? Here is this "VICTORY" - in SYRIA! Putin's prestige around the world, as they write to us, RISE, got what "they" wanted! All joyful and contented, and the events inside the country have faded into the background! And the destruction CONTINUES!
        This is only one of the possible options, but it seems plausible to me!
        1. +5
          4 December 2013 13: 27
          bred like kittens
      2. +3
        4 December 2013 12: 04
        Quote: Povshnik
        And they deliberately destroy the Russian people, relying on Asian migrant workers.
        Pvoshnik so agrees with the comment, but as for the Gostarbeiter Asians, I doubt that this is not the force that can destroy the Russian people, the enemy is on the other side. We have a conflict with the Asians, but with the West we have War. hi
    2. fisherman
      +1
      4 December 2013 17: 38
      Not everything is as bad as the author writes, slowly comes to people the realization that they are not united by bread and circuses.


      it yes

      but the problems have not gone away, and the author correctly does what reminds of them

      Here are just the conclusions did not sound, some hints :)
  8. makarov
    +6
    4 December 2013 08: 29
    The author, taking care of the readers, tried to "sort out everything on the shelves. In reality, in the very first paragraph, he clearly stated his position:" All the blame is on the liberals who seized power in 91 and are still tearing the Russian people up. All the troubles come from them, and the worst trouble for the people of the Russian Federation, so he lives shit and dies in disgrace.
    I repeat the famous slogan: - IPRАTH & PИSAT, THESE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.
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  11. +9
    4 December 2013 08: 33
    Russia survived in past troubles while the institution of the family was strong, which is now greatly undermined. The main reason is the enrichment of women. When a woman ceases to live in the interests of the nation, such a nation is not viable "
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  15. -3
    4 December 2013 08: 56
    WRITING AND WRITING ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. It’s great to hiccup the guilty, uncle come rye sow, otherwise we want to eat, but laziness comes down from the oven!
    1. makarov
      +6
      4 December 2013 09: 39
      You are a nice person. I see third dreams when I start working. In Ukrainian time at 03/00 in Moscow 05/00. I think you can’t.
    2. 0
      4 December 2013 11: 41
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (and so on)
  16. +5
    4 December 2013 08: 58
    However, Russia in the 1930-1950 years showed a different image of the future of mankind. In this future, it is not necessary to dispose of “excess biomass”, on the contrary, people are necessary for the creation, knowledge, development of the near, and in the distant future, deep space. Under Joseph Stalin, Russia showed the whole of humanity the road to the golden age, where material values ​​recede into the second and third planes, and people are filled with energy not of acquisition and consumption, but of creative creation. The main values ​​of such a society are service to the motherland and creation, the accumulation of comprehensive knowledge.

    Actually, it started much earlier. Stalin only raised this banner.
    You forget that the basis of the spiritual core is Orthodoxy. By the way, Stalin also brought Orthodoxy back to life.
  17. +3
    4 December 2013 09: 11
    Damn what happens with the site, trying to answer a person, throws to the beginning of the article
    1. +2
      4 December 2013 09: 33
      Quote: bomg.77
      Damn what happens with the site, trying to answer a person, throws to the beginning of the article

      Clean the browser.
    2. +2
      4 December 2013 09: 40
      Quote: bomg.77
      trying to answer a person, throws to the beginning of the article

      What browser?
    3. +2
      4 December 2013 13: 25
      ctrl + H - history. You can also clear the cache there. in theory should help. This applies to Chrome, Yandex browser. in Opera I don’t remember where exactly ... in the general settings it seems.
      If internet Explorer, close it and never open it again lol
      1. 0
        4 December 2013 14: 17
        Quote: silver_roman
        This applies to Chrome, Yandex browser

        What about Mozilla?
        1. Alex 241
          0
          4 December 2013 14: 19
          Whatever the browser, just refresh it.
        2. +1
          4 December 2013 16: 40
          ohh, I don’t remember with Mazila. did not use it, because she was braked before.
          But the essence is the same: just clear the cache and download history. Do not touch the main cookis files, because all passwords stored in the browser will fly hi
  18. -4
    4 December 2013 09: 15
    Quote: radio operator
    By the way, Stalin also brought Orthodoxy back to life.

    Yes, he returned when the Germans took his ass.
    1. -1
      4 December 2013 10: 57
      For your information, Stalin didn’t oppress Orthodoxy, and churches were turned into warehouses or destroyed only because they were not in demand, the number of believers greatly decreased after the revolution ..
      1. +3
        4 December 2013 11: 30
        For your information, in our village a mosque was in great demand, but at the direction of the district committee they demolished the minaret and made it a house of culture. I think in Russian villages the situation was similar. Take, for example, the occupation, with the advent of the Germans, the work of churches was everywhere restored and services began. Why's that?
        1. +2
          4 December 2013 15: 24
          Quote: bairat
          For your information, in our village a mosque was in great demand, but at the direction of the district committee they demolished the minaret and made it a house of culture. I think in Russian villages the situation was similar.

          Honestly, it’s hard to believe that if there were believers, they would be deprived of a temple, everywhere throughout the USSR there were churches and mosques and people did not lack them. Perhaps your case is an exception, maybe the mosque’s mentor quarreled with the local authorities ..
          In general, I’m wondering what genius invented the symbolism of the Hammer and Sickle, but he also united two faiths with this symbol - Christianity and Islam ..
          1. +2
            4 December 2013 17: 57
            Honestly, it’s hard to believe that if there were believers, they would be deprived of the temple,

            If you do not know that churches were closed in the USSR, you simply do not know your story. The entire period of the existence of the USSR is permeated with the struggle against religion, starting with the execution and exile of clergy as an alien class, the seizure of values ​​and ending with various restrictions and taxes.
            1. grafrozow
              0
              4 December 2013 19: 47
              Quote: bairat
              If you do not know that churches were closed in the USSR, you simply do not know your story. The entire period of the existence of the USSR is permeated with the struggle against religion, starting with the execution and exile of clergy as an alien class, the seizure of values ​​and ending with various restrictions and taxes.
              +++++ A great example is Solovki, that's where religion flourished.
            2. +2
              5 December 2013 15: 02
              Quote: bairat
              If you do not know that churches were closed in the USSR, you simply do not know your story.

              I already wrote to you why they were closed, even in those temples that there were few people working, where are there even more to leave them?
              Quote: bairat
              starting with the execution and exile of the clergy as an alien class, by weaning

              And did you find out for what reason the execution sentences were handed down? Maybe you will find out first and then you will write about the struggle with the church. They shot for real crimes, and many priests themselves were lynched, because the dominance of the church was very strong. Well, values ​​were confiscated again in favor of peasants and workers, or do you think that priests bathe in luxury and people die of hunger?
          2. Beck
            0
            4 December 2013 18: 14
            Quote: DEfindER
            For your information, Stalin didn’t oppress Orthodoxy,


            YES ?!

            Well, to what level of primitivism, ignorance of one’s history it is necessary to slide down to assert, without taking an ear, without blinking an eye and scratching a turnip, that Stalin not a gram did not oppress religion. So it was on his personal instructions that the Temple of the Savior was blown up.

            Blood from blood, flesh from flesh, the Bolshevik Stalin, was a product of Bolshevism. And the fundamental doctrine of communism is that there is no god and religion is opium for the people. Hence all the persecution of the Bolshevik authority of the church. Persecution is the most inhuman.

            The basis of the godlessness of the Communists is that in religion they saw the competition to his savage teachings. And God according to their understanding should be alone.

            There is no god. There is no Allah. There is Karl Marx.

            There is no Koran. There is no gospel. There is Marx's Capital.

            No jesus. There is no Muhammad. There is Lenin.

            There is no Devil. There is Stalin.
            1. 11111mail.ru
              +3
              4 December 2013 19: 03
              Quote: Beck
              There is no Devil. There is Stalin

              Did you draw it from the Bald Cucumber or is this pearl the fruit of your own long-term thoughts?
              Quote: Beck
              So it was on his personal instructions that the Temple of the Savior was blown up.

              Here is more likely a question for Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich, the best friend of all metro builders ...
              1. fisherman
                +2
                4 December 2013 19: 32
                Here is more likely a question for Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich, the best friend of all metro builders ...


                the king is good, these are bad boyars


                :)
            2. +1
              5 December 2013 15: 18
              Quote: Beck
              So it was on his personal instructions that the Temple of the Savior was blown up.

              At that time, the whole of Moscow was being rebuilt from a medieval city into a city of the future with wide avenues and modern infrastructure. And if the vector of development of the country has changed from religious to progressive, then the temple was removed, although of course they could have left the monument, but who does not make mistakes?
              Quote: Beck
              And the fundamental doctrine of communism is that there is no god and religion is opium for the people.

              Agree
              Quote: Beck
              Hence all the persecution of the Bolshevik authority of the church. Persecution is the most inhuman.

              I don’t agree, where did you get this? All my ancestors were believers, and they calmly went to church and no one ever oppressed them anywhere. The only thing that happened at that time was that too religious people could not hold the highest posts.
              Quote: Beck
              The basis of the godlessness of the Communists is that in religion they saw competition to their savage teachings.

              What kind of competition is it, the Bolsheviks, on the contrary, played on the hatred of ordinary people for Church ministers, steeped in corruption ..
              1. Beck
                -1
                5 December 2013 20: 32
                Quote: DEfindER
                At that time, all of Moscow was rebuilding from medieval cities to the city of the future


                In a hundred years Moscow will also be rebuilt. And if the last of Stalin is in power, then he may well blow up medieval kremlinto build an ultramodern city block.

                Quote: DEfindER
                I don’t agree, where did you get this?


                Where, from where? I took it from the ceiling. I invented all this, and threw all the documentary sources of the return to the landfill.

                Quote: DEfindER
                What kind of competition is it, the Bolsheviks, on the contrary, played on the hatred of ordinary people for Church ministers, steeped in corruption ..


                The most banal competition. If a person believes in God and in the future Paradise. He will no longer believe the Leader and will not believe in Communism (an analogue of Bolshevik paradise).

                What about corruption? Name at least one type of human activity where this or that corruption is impossible. On occasion, the janitor will take a bribe, and the secretaries of the district committees, regional committees, territories, and even more so.
        2. +4
          4 December 2013 15: 35
          Yes, because religion is opium for the people.
          In the same way, now, around built temples, different, including minarets. Regular worship is a daily routine.
          However, the general cultural level continues to fall down, and spiritual self-awareness is nothing more than a myth for modern man.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            0
            4 December 2013 19: 08
            Quote: 123dv
            overall cultural level continues to tumble down

            What, again, is Stalin to blame?
            1. 0
              4 December 2013 19: 19
              And don’t think about seconds down.
          2. Pinochet000
            +1
            4 December 2013 19: 42
            Quote: 123dv
            and spiritual self-awareness is nothing more than a myth for modern man.

            Modern man is so dumb that he is unable to comprehend spiritual development without religion, for this purpose the biblical project, Islam and others were launched as a candle at night, now it’s dawn and they are no longer needed.
            What is spiritual self-awareness and what do you mean by that? Why are we on this earth? Why do you think we are here?
            1. fisherman
              0
              4 December 2013 19: 57
              Why do you think we are here?


              very interesting

              and why, in your opinion, are we here?
              1. Pinochet000
                +1
                4 December 2013 20: 14
                Quote: fisherman
                and why, in your opinion, are we here?

                You are a Jew, answer a question with a question? And I apologize, not a question has been asked of you.
                Development is the goal, why are we needed there stupid, selfish, tormented by our own demons (valgale, paradise, irii)? Unless of course you believe in an immortal soul.
                1. fisherman
                  -3
                  4 December 2013 20: 38
                  You are a Jew, answer a question with a question? And I apologize, not a question has been asked of you.
                  Development is the goal, why are we needed there stupid, selfish, tormented by our own demons (valgale, paradise, irii)? Unless of course you believe in an immortal soul.


                  no, I'm an ordinary Russian pensioner

                  you have such pathos, apparently, someone told you that you are very smart,

                  "spit in his face and you will find out the truth"

                  You dared to assert that religion is not needed in the modern world, which is why I became interested in your pathos :)

                  I will answer your question: we are not needed there, and therefore we will not be there :)
                  1. grafrozow
                    -1
                    4 December 2013 20: 54
                    Quote: fisherman
                    you have such pathos, apparently, someone told you that you are very smart,

                    "spit in his face and you will find out the truth"
                    +++++ No comments.
                  2. Pinochet000
                    +2
                    4 December 2013 20: 56
                    Quote: fisherman
                    You dare to claim

                    Well, I think so. It only prevents people from waking up and looking around. And angry slightly that they do not understand.
                    1. fisherman
                      -1
                      4 December 2013 21: 18
                      It only prevents people from waking up and looking around.


                      yes, that's life, some, for example, use vodka instead of "opium"

                      to forget

                      the use of this "opium" promotes the death of neurons, the brain begins to "slow down"

                      the world around is no longer so bad

                      "do not kill ... do not steal" is also a kind of brake, only not personal, but social

                      therefore, the value of this brake (sometimes give an example from electrical engineering, with negative feedback, which prevents the system from self-destruction due to an avalanche-like resonance) is difficult to overestimate
                      1. Pinochet000
                        0
                        4 December 2013 21: 46
                        Quote: fisherman
                        "do not kill ... do not steal" is also a kind of brake, only not personal, but social

                        Just not very slow, he answered below.
                      2. fisherman
                        0
                        4 December 2013 22: 14
                        Just not very slow, he answered below.


                        of course

                        because just telling your child, for example, common truths is a necessary but not sufficient condition

                        he may follow them, or maybe not
                  3. Pinochet000
                    +2
                    4 December 2013 21: 22
                    Quote: fisherman
                    you have such pathos, apparently, someone told you that you are very smart,

                    "spit in his face and you will find out the truth"
                    The transition to personalities also doesn’t affect you, there is something to say on the topic, say. Everything Else Trololo
                    1. fisherman
                      -1
                      4 December 2013 22: 08
                      Switching to personalities doesn’t affect you either,


                      Modern man is so dumb


                      while the rest of modern humanity is bashfully silent, I decided to check how modern you are :)
        3. Pinochet000
          +3
          4 December 2013 19: 19
          Quote: bairat
          Why did it happen?

          For me, any religion is a means of control.
          1. fisherman
            +1
            4 December 2013 19: 52
            For me, any religion is a means of control.


            You are absolutely right

            "do not kill ... do not steal ..."

            what is it if not controls? :)

            with the help of these levers social cells are created in which so closely freedom-loving revolutionaries, such as: waiters, speculators, artists, farcers, dissidents, marginals, dudes ... and other creative personalities :)
            1. Pinochet000
              +1
              4 December 2013 20: 29
              Quote: fisherman
              "do not kill ... do not steal ..."

              Quote: fisherman
              with the help of these levers social cells are created in which so closely loving revolutionaries

              Well what can I tell you, these cells of yours did not help the Russian Empire avoid the revolution, but the Russian Federation of theft ... The king was killed, the Minister of Defense is a thief. What else is not clear?
              1. fisherman
                -1
                4 December 2013 21: 30
                Well what can I tell you, these cells of yours did not help the Russian Empire avoid the revolution, but the Russian Federation of theft ... The king was killed, the Minister of Defense is a thief. What else is not clear?


                Well, what can I tell you, this is the hidden logic of the historical process, so any unstable elements will decay

                The Russian Federation and now is not a standard of stability, however, compared with 1905 (or today's Ukraine), we have a very good situation

                I am glad that not only you, but also the tsar, and even, imagine, a very noticeable part of society is interested in "spiritual bonds"

                these clamps are much more important for our statehood than all material things, such as milk yields, what else, smelting per capita, the number of Olympiads held, doubling the mileage of roads, doubling the GDP and the like

                "a face of democratic appearance" this expression belongs to L. Tostom

                as you know, he had a difficult relationship with the Russian Orthodox Church, including because of this expression :)
                1. -1
                  4 December 2013 21: 45
                  Quote: fisherman
                  What is spiritual self-awareness and what do you mean by that?

                  So, spiritual self-awareness is self-awareness as a spiritual being, not corporeal, living eternal life. As indicated by all the great philosophers of all time.
                  1. fisherman
                    -1
                    4 December 2013 22: 23
                    living eternal life.


                    Sobornost

                    among temporary workers (i.e., people living not in eternity, but in time) this word causes hiccups :)
                2. Pinochet000
                  +1
                  4 December 2013 22: 02
                  Quote: fisherman
                  I am glad that not only you, but also the tsar, and even, imagine, a very noticeable part of society is interested in "spiritual bonds"
                  What kind of king are you talking about? One is skrep for our language, I don’t believe in other sources ... Are you interested in the staples? So dawn now, spiritual insight ... I will write IMHO, otherwise accuse me again of pathos.
                  1. fisherman
                    -1
                    4 December 2013 22: 21
                    What kind of king are you talking about? Skrep one at all, our language, I do not believe other sources ..


                    about the current king

                    try to raise your worldview not only over the scope, but also over the tongue

                    remember the civil war of 1918 - 1920s
                    1. Pinochet000
                      0
                      4 December 2013 22: 38
                      Quote: fisherman
                      remember the civil war of 1918 - 1920s
                      So the night was religion, language was not even considered a spiritual bond ... On the one hand, white and Christianity, for which the pagans were enemies, on the other, red and a new ideology, which, by the way, was one of the first decrees to remove the letters from the language. So the example is unsuccessful, in my opinion.
                      1. fisherman
                        -1
                        4 December 2013 22: 52
                        So the example is unsuccessful, in my opinion.


                        language as a spiritual bond was not even considered.


                        of course, this is a bad example, with the language, you just didn’t think

                        language can be a unifying beginning

                        the only problem is that unifying incentives may not always be spiritual bonds of statehood ("flies from cutlets")

                        that is why relying on our native language, hoping that there will be no more civil wars - this is naivety

                        "who thinks clearly, he clearly expounds"
                      2. Pinochet000
                        0
                        4 December 2013 23: 06
                        Quote: fisherman
                        the only problem is that unifying incentives may not always be spiritual bonds of statehood ("flies from cutlets")

                        I am sure that our language also has incentives and clips, moreover, the Russian language is a system of knowledge ... We just need to remember it.
                      3. fisherman
                        0
                        4 December 2013 23: 15
                        I am sure that our language also has incentives and clips, moreover, the Russian language is a knowledge system


                        necessary but insufficient condition (see categories: "necessity and sufficiency)"

                        one more example: the non-Russian tsar speaks not only the Russian language :)
                      4. Pinochet000
                        +1
                        4 December 2013 23: 40
                        Quote: fisherman
                        necessary but not sufficient condition

                        Verbiage is. In the language of axiomatics of life. Do you know at least one elementary truth?

                        Quote: fisherman
                        the current tsar speaks not only the Russian language
                        The knowledge of languages ​​only helps to understand the genius of the Russian language, and it is not a king.
                        You are not interesting to me, all the best.
                      5. fisherman
                        -1
                        5 December 2013 00: 06
                        Verbiage is. In the language of axiomatics of life. Do you know at least one elementary truth?


                        it’s not verbiage, verbiage is speculation, speculativeness, substitution of concepts, sophistry ... and so on

                        as for the necessary and sufficient conditions, this is ordinary life, i.e. You can always encounter them, for example, when your employer pays you a lower salary, i.e. will fulfill the necessary condition, but will not fulfill the sufficient

                        the same applies to your pseudo-intellectual confidence, in very simple terms, "there is a lot of ambition, but no sense"

                        of course, I know a lot of elementary truths, for example: "knowledge is power"

                        in order to understand that this is not an elementary truth, but an ordinary myth doesn’t have to live much and know Confucius

                        thoroughly deal with the Pushkin maxim:

                        "there is no happiness in the world, but there is peace and will"

                        I suggest: the encyclopedic knowledge of an alcoholic about the molecular composition of alcoholic liquids and the harm to human health of these liquids in no way contribute to the attainment of happiness to him or his relatives

                        Thank you for the attention :)
                      6. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 00: 36
                        How People Think: To Us He Speaks Peace
                        Understand the issue, fish, otherwise you won’t catch))
                      7. fisherman
                        -1
                        5 December 2013 00: 56
                        How People Think


                        I prompt again:

                        as soon as your employer (in response to your legitimate question about reducing wages) begins to carry out a blizzard about production efficiency, reducing energy costs, and in general, what is most important for you (as an employee) is a necessary condition (i.e. the same money, only in smaller quantities), know

                        that he does verbiage, exactly the same as you do

                        but you will immediately understand the importance of the SUFFICIENT condition :)

                        Moreover, I’m sure that this condition will suddenly become the most important for you :)

                        that is life
                      8. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 21
                        Quote: fisherman
                        I prompt again:

                        It’s good to drive a blizzard)) It’s enough language to understand that there is a payroll in front of you. Like his level.
                        Ps I will insert a picture so that the koment information carries.

                        Abundant Life on Earth, Harmonizes with the Universe and the Community, creating the Tree of the Universe (life on earth only develops when everything is in harmony: community and individual)
                      9. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 32
                        Ace of God Knows the Verb Good, that there is Life (existence)
                      10. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 35
                        As Lives As The Whole Word Has Decreased and Hardened Everywhere
                      11. fisherman
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 35
                        Enough language


                        no one forbids you to have your own private (subjective) opinion, and think about people all that your deep inner world suggests :)

                        but as for Objective knowledge:

                        Always ask the truth from the people


                        not with me, not at home, but among the people ... good luck? :)

                        I remind once again the most important thing for you: no one has the right to forbid you to carry this cute teenage snowstorm :)
                      12. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 52
                        Quote: fisherman
                        no one has the right to forbid you to carry this cute teenage snowstorm :)

                        Well, you do not get sick ...)
                      13. fisherman
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 58
                        Well, you do not get sick ...)


                        Thanks, as you can see, in order to find at least some "points of contact" in a dispute, deep knowledge of the language is absolutely not required :)

                        And yet, before you bring to the masses knowledge about the alphabet, look at your Internet name :)

                        God give you health
                      14. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 02: 23
                        Quote: fisherman
                        to find at least some "points of contact" in the dispute

                        In fact, there is nothing in common, we speak different languages ​​and it’s not about the level of intelligence and not the amount of information in our head ... That’s what you need to throw it out to begin to distinguish .. reliable (worthy of faith, you still need to check) information and a lie (lying on top).
                        All the best.
                      15. fisherman
                        -1
                        5 December 2013 02: 33
                        we speak different languages


                        "who thinks clearly, he clearly expounds"
                      16. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 02: 45
                        Quote: fisherman
                        "who thinks clearly, he clearly expounds"
                        Just remember that there are no authorities .. everything needs to be checked)
                      17. fisherman
                        0
                        5 December 2013 06: 52
                        absolutely right

                        why I undertook to check you :)

                        think better, why not only the ABCs so far have not been able to maintain statehood within their former borders?

                        this is your homework :)
                      18. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 07: 30
                        Himself a Russian teach-in-two, useful. True, it is understandable only to human children.
                      19. fisherman
                        0
                        5 December 2013 08: 39
                        Himself a Russian teach-in-two, useful


                        Before teaching someone, try to do as much good as possible in this life, at least something useful not for yourself, but for society

                        Then they will listen to you

                        it is possible that they will reach you

                        ordinary people will be drawn, not spies and scouts, who perfectly know a foreign language, a foreign mentality, acting on a foreign territory

                        In the meantime, you are an ordinary student, in fact :)

                        "logic, and only logic"

                        "who thinks clearly, he clearly expresses"
                      20. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 09: 02
                        Quote: fisherman
                        In the meantime, you are an ordinary student, in fact
                        The fact of the matter is that in modern Jewish (also in fact) civilization, it will not work out differently .. only self-education, because everything is false ... science, religion, history, etc. The vector of development of the Russian world must be changed from Jewish to Russian, and the key to understanding how to do this in the language, that’s all.
                      21. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 01: 42
                        more details about the language http://avega.net.ua/avega/index.php/poznavatelnoe/632-old-russian-language-forgo
                        tten-depth-images-of-ancient-drop-caps.html
                      22. Pinochet000
                        0
                        5 December 2013 02: 12
                        To understand how the system works, to destroy the Russian people, see Sergey Danilov's lectures.
                        No one can be trusted, including Sergey, everything is necessary check
  19. +1
    4 December 2013 09: 28
    The masters of Western civilization - the so-called. “Financial international”, “world backstage”, the union of the old aristocratic clans of the Old World and usurious clans, create a new world order on the planet. They need to get full control over man and humanity.

    While the "creators" of the Western project will be called "tolerantly" and vaguely, nobody knows who the enemies of humanity are.

    And you tell me specifically what kind of organization, maybe you know the names, and who are these people by nationality and religion? Are there such people in Russia?
    1. +6
      4 December 2013 10: 38
      There are such people in Russia. For example, a member of the Bilderberg club Chubais.

      Nationality and religion can be learned from open sources
    2. 0
      4 December 2013 15: 12
      Everyone knows the answer, but do you want a person like Kvachkov and Khabarov to take and engage under white hands in places not so remote?
  20. calocha
    +11
    4 December 2013 09: 37
    It is necessary to study the experience of Stalin. Take the best and implement. The current rulers are struck by the fact that they are small against such a figure as I.V. STALIN. They did not think of anything better than how to pour Genius of the XNUMXth century with mud.
  21. 0
    4 December 2013 09: 41
    Quote: baltika-18
    Clean the browser.
    For two weeks I bought a computer, what to clean there!
    1. +2
      4 December 2013 10: 15
      Quote: bomg.77
      For two weeks I bought a computer, what to clean there!

      Cache and cookies. Go to your browser settings.
      1. +1
        4 December 2013 10: 47
        Quote: baltika-18
        baltika-18 (3) Today, 10: 15 ↑ New
        Quote: bomg.77
        For two weeks I bought a computer, what to clean there!
        Cache and cookies. Go to your browser settings.
        Baltika everything seems to have normalized the site itself!hiThanks for participating!
        1. +1
          4 December 2013 12: 03
          Quote: bomg.77
          Baltika everything seems to have normalized the site itself! Thanks for participating!

          Please. hi
  22. +1
    4 December 2013 09: 44
    I also can not answer posts, throws up. the browser was scum.
  23. +11
    4 December 2013 09: 46
    PUTIN’s domestic policy is very weak, because on whom does he rely on his people in his reforms?
    No, of course - the reforms are carried out by officials commissioned by the OLIGARCHS of Russia and foreign clients of big business, and such reforms often meet with misunderstanding and rejection of the people.
    Moreover, such personality reforms, such as DIMON, CHUBAIS and other negative characters, are leading.
  24. +1
    4 December 2013 09: 50
    Quote: bairat
    I also can not answer posts, throws up. the browser was scum.

    Quote: Asgard
    Well, who wants to go deep))) here is the insinuations on this subject
    after taking cognac (to expand consciousness))))
    Asgard all three photos, one person, since everyone’s earlobe is identical! Doubles are common practice.
    1. +9
      4 December 2013 10: 55
      Quote: bomg.77
      Doubles are common practice.

      Look at the nose, Lips, eyeballs, the blood mesh on the forehead ..... well, and the ears)))) are not the same at all, except maybe two .... both on the right and left))))

      Then these doubles bazaar something there, like the Head of STATE?!?!?!

      Let's draw an analogy ........ with Peter, when he returned from a "business trip" from Holland)))
      Immediately he removed his wife to the monastery, Vova divorced))))
      Peter walked around accessible women, "Kobaev" and does not lag behind here))))
      -U Petrusha surrounded by Thieves and the attributed victories and dubious construction sites on the banks of the Neva, did not have FRIENDS, flooded Russia with FOREIGNERS, made People FORTRESS .....
      -With Putin surrounded entirely by "bad boyars", dubious construction projects of the Olympics, Most, South and North Streams (for which we do not have gas)) for 13 years he has not created a team of like-minded people, in ROSNEFTI the head is DADLI (foreign) guest workers, and Russian People became CREDIT)))))
      -Petra was poisoned))))
      -Putin ...........
      1. +5
        4 December 2013 10: 58
        And what is there to compare in the pictures PUTIN (plowed like a slave) to galleys, to galleys, after galleys.
      2. 0
        4 December 2013 11: 33
        [quote = Asgard] Look at the nose, Lips, eyeballs, blood mesh on the forehead ..... well, and the ears)))) are not at all the same, except maybe two ...., and to the right and left))) ) [/ quote] I won’t argue with Asgard, for me they are the same except for one that is slightly swollen, it can be from some drugs, because the person is not young.
        [quote = Asgard] Let's draw an analogy ........ with Peter, when he returned from a "business trip" from Holland)))
        Immediately he removed his wife to the monastery, Vova divorced))))
        Peter walked around accessible women, "Kobaev" does not lag behind)))) [/ quote] You missed one moment, Peter traveled for 2 years and the only ones who saw him are those who went with him, and Putin is always in sight.
        [quote = Asgard] -Putin is surrounded entirely by "bad boyars", dubious construction projects of the Olympics, Bridge, South and North Streams (for which we do not have gas)) Why dubious construction projects? Everything is clear and logical! The Olympics are the development of the Caucasus and investing money in a specific project, and not stupidly dating. The North Stream for diversification of the gas flow and not depend on Ukraine, the same is about the South. The APEC pursued the same goals, the development of the Far East. As for the boyars, He has loyal people and his team (Lavrov, Shoigu, Ivanov, Zubkov) is not a lot, but there is.
      3. +3
        4 December 2013 12: 12
        Quote: Asgard
        -Petra was poisoned))))
        -Putin ...........

        The analogy is interesting.
        Quote: Asgard
        dubious construction sites on the banks of the Neva

        And you know, Asgard, Peter is a very interesting city. There is a lot of inexplicable and incomprehensible things. There is a very interesting version that Peter did not build the city from scratch, but simply cleaned and repaired what was inherited from the previous civilization. At least she (version) explains something.
        1. +3
          4 December 2013 12: 23
          Quote: baltika-18
          And you know, Asgard, Peter is a very interesting city. There is a lot of inexplicable and incomprehensible things. There is a very interesting version that Peter did not build the city from scratch, but simply cleaned and repaired what was inherited from the previous civilization. At least she (version) explains something.
          The Baltics, you are about the city of Jupiter and the Statues are antique. If about this, I also liked the version and it is quite convincing.
          1. +2
            4 December 2013 12: 41
            Quote: bomg.77
            The Baltics, you are about the city of Jupiter and the Statues are antique. If about this, I also liked the version and it is quite convincing.

            Yes, about it. Very convincing. If you dig there specifically, you probably would have found so much interesting. In Kronstadt, there were interesting finds, but nothing about them.
            1. +2
              4 December 2013 14: 10
              Quote: baltika-18
              Yes, about it. Very convincing. If you dig there specifically, you probably would have found so much interesting. In Kronstadt, there were interesting finds, but nothing about them.
              Yes, I think that if you dig deeper and the Sumerians seem like a young civilization!
              1. +6
                4 December 2013 15: 16
                Quote: bomg.77
                Quote: baltika-18
                Yes, about it. Very convincing. If you dig there specifically, you probably would have found so much interesting. In Kronstadt, the finds were interesting, but silent about them. Yes, I think that if you dig deeper and the Sumerians seem like a young civilization!


                http://atlantida-pravda-i-vimisel.blogspot.ru/2012/07/blog-post_4128.html
                Here read comrades, reference, I Guarantee a Feast for the Mind ...
                A friend of my friend writes))))) But in general, Peter is the old city of VENED of our ancestors, then it was called the New City (NOVGOROD))
                By the way, and New York was built on the site of NOVGOROD (our civilization from the belt of the Mother of God)))
                Well, this is from the field of special Knowledge (in secret)))) You will not find such a thing on any site))))
                Quote: Boris55
                The role of the Jewish Wives Institute


                He is also familiar, in general, Jews are an interesting people, for a researcher))))
                Although they deny the fact of the influence of the "guide" on their life, however, It can be seen from the outside undeniably ...
                A NORMAL Jew lives in Murmansk (if you can write it that way))) and watching his "transformations" since the 80s, you are amazed))))) and he behaves with me adequately (I am more powerful than his guide)))) and here with People - in every way in different ways ... that is, somewhere they have a mechanism like the "bees" settings according to the "MATKA Hive of Jews" ....

                In general, when we win, we will build a laboratory, and study the boom)))))
                1. +2
                  4 December 2013 17: 04
                  Quote: Asgard
                  http://atlantida-pravda-i-vimisel.blogspot.ru/2012/07/blog-post_4128.html
                  Here read comrades, reference, I Guarantee a Feast for the Mind ...
                  I already walked on it and this version and had in mind good Asgard, is there anything else like it?
                  1. +2
                    4 December 2013 18: 15
                    P O P I T A Y K A

                    http://masterkosta.com/load/tkan_mirozdanija_valerij_kondratov/1-1-0-115
                    He speaks in a voice not too courageous, but very close to the truth and he came ....

                    http://slavruss.narod.ru/osnown/AM8.htm
                    Here, in general, over and above CONSCIOUSLY, I’m a couple of peasants like these I know that they do, to all Nobel Laureates ........ in general, parallane reality))))

                    http://masterok.livejournal.com/1450096.html
                    Also interesting and informative collections, you have to travel back)))) He respects a guy, lives in Belgorod, by the way there WAS recently, my feeling is the ONLY CITY IN RF-where something is being done))))

                    So far, that's all))) There is a common blog on the VseRusskie social network, where a guy makes interesting collections - they are called Saturday read ... Sometimes there are "PEARLS")))
                    1. fisherman
                      +2
                      4 December 2013 18: 35
                      In the social network VseRusskie there is a common blog, there the guy makes interesting selections - called Saturday reading.


                      if even Asgard blows the roof, then you must definitely read)))

                      so, just write in the search engine "Saturday read"?
                    2. +1
                      4 December 2013 19: 00
                      Quote: Asgard
                      P O P I T A Y K A
                      Thanks, I read hi
      4. -1
        4 December 2013 13: 23
        Asgard, and you yourself, after a hangover in the mirror saw? laughing

        The role of the Jewish Wives Institute

        "Historical facts prove that the ancient Egyptian priesthood succeeded in successfully implementing the previously described global plans, transforming into the tribe of Levi and for many centuries to form a whole system of supranational government of countries and peoples on planet Earth, called in the COB the Global Over Judaic Predictor. In this system of government everything is hierarchical. : at the top are modern Levites in the form of a world occult government, below the Rabbinate is the ideological government, even below is the Jewry itself as the periphery and the blind instrument of its masters.This system became understandable on the basis of numerous sources, including secret KGB documentaries that became available after 1991 of the year.

        To expand the social base, the ethnic origin of the Jews is determined by the maternal line. Indeed, in societies that included Jews, nationality was determined by the father. In the case of a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew, their children were perceived in this society as "their own", "blood" (and not outsiders of the Jews), which allowed such children to advance in the service without special restrictions. On the basis of this principle, the so-called. "Institute of Jewish Wives". If a Russian muzhik has a Jewish wife, then the son (daughter) from this marriage among the Jews is considered a Jew (Jewess) with all the ensuing consequences. Each reader can give examples with conclusions himself. I will only note a very important moment in the history of Russia, connected with the fact that the Kiev prince Vladimir - Krasno Solnyshko was the illegitimate son of Prince Svyatoslav and the Jewess Malka. So, Vladimir's initiative to baptize Rus into Judo-Christianity with the simultaneous destruction of the Russian national priesthood was not born out of nowhere. What this led Russia to is evidenced by the history of our Motherland, filled with a continuous series of civil strife, discord, wars and suffering of the people. And the so-called. the "Jewish question" like the sword of Damocles hangs continuously over every rebellious head. "

        An excerpt from the book by K.P. Petrov - "Secrets of Mankind Management".
      5. fisherman
        +1
        4 December 2013 17: 52
        Asgard, thank you for being, I always read you with great pleasure :)
    2. Yarosvet
      +3
      4 December 2013 17: 15
      Quote: bomg.77
      Asgard all three photos, one person, since everyone’s earlobe is identical!

      I am not a supporter of this hypothesis, but ... wink
      1. 0
        4 December 2013 19: 33
        Quote: Yarosvet
        I am not a supporter of this hypothesis, but ...
        Yarosvet, yes here, the ears are different, but he has doubles.
        1. +2
          4 December 2013 21: 07
          Ears are not different, sorry.
          There are concepts - angle, lighting, brightness, contrast, shadow, and other things ...
          Kozma Prutkov to help you all.
          1. 0
            5 December 2013 05: 46
            Quote: 123dv
            Ears are not different, sorry.
            This is understandable in terms of angle and lighting, but the first ear doesn’t look like 2 and 3 there is no earlobe, but you can’t explain it with angle and light hi
            1. 0
              5 December 2013 12: 54
              The first shot has a view from below, and the second from above.
              He who has eyes, let him see.
              You can fornication further on health.
      2. 0
        6 December 2013 15: 35
        Which is, first and foremost, unconstitutional.
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  25. 0
    4 December 2013 09: 55
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What browser?
    Chromium! two weeks old
    1. +2
      4 December 2013 10: 17
      Quote: bomg.77
      Chromium! two weeks old

      You can take a shit in a day by looking at which sites to climb.
      1. +3
        4 December 2013 10: 56
        Quote: baltika-18
        You can take a shit in a day by looking at which sites to climb.
        Well, not the first day I’m using, as if whatI'm only on VO and on "but sites)) well, and gaming machines, but nowhere else laughing
        1. +4
          4 December 2013 11: 02
          Quote: bomg.77
          I'm only on VO and on "but sites))

          So this is the most interesting in the internet wassat
          1. +1
            4 December 2013 11: 11
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            So this is the most interesting in the internet
            So I'm interested wassat
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        2. +1
          4 December 2013 15: 23
          "by" but by sites "- that's where all the crap comes in.
  26. +11
    4 December 2013 09: 56
    No great goals and horizons were declared before the country by Vladimir Putin. The presence of spectacles - the Olympics in Sochi, the World Cup and more - does not atone for the lack of real achievements and victories, the lack of goals. You can not endlessly travel to preserve the country from the collapse in 1999-2001. and "stability."

    He always said that the money stolen for the "organization" of these events would be spent on a program for the resettlement of compatriots from abroad and on the treatment of seriously ill children.
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  28. +10
    4 December 2013 10: 02
    “Where are you going, country?”
    - I'm going quietly on ...
    - To work? Do you study?
    - Just na, without specification.
    1. 0
      4 December 2013 11: 28
      Quote: Alexandr73
      “Where are you going, country?”
      - I'm going quietly on ...

      So it was until November 20 2013 year. The concept of Russia has been announced (where to go). The process has begun.
  29. 0
    4 December 2013 10: 07
    You can not endlessly travel to preserve the country from the collapse in 1999-2001. and "stability."
    Here I agree with the author! Something needs to be radically changed and urgently! First you need to clean the power from the licking of thieves and traitors and hard! The imperious deck has long been frayed and stained .. While Serdyukov’s chubais, etc. They’re sitting in such areas as the military-industrial complex, energy, science, Russia is waiting for another bloody turmoil!
    I think Putin understands this. that’s why it’s hesitant ..? (today infa slipped that some kind of anti-corruption department was created (not a commission or committee, but a department) Oh Russia ..!
  30. +5
    4 December 2013 10: 08
    Russians with their blood wrote the history of the whole world.
    1. +1
      4 December 2013 16: 18
      Quote from DiViZ
      Russians with their blood wrote the history of the whole world.

      Hopefully we WRITE and this is not the last chapter ...
      1. catapractic
        +1
        8 December 2013 11: 50
        to write history is necessary with the blood of our enemies; this is only the most reasonable policy.
  31. +1
    4 December 2013 10: 17
    Quote: bomg.77
    Quote: bairat
    I also can not answer posts, throws up. the browser was scum.

    I have the same crap. I checked on 3x computers with different versions of Firefox, it’s buggy everywhere.
    1. +1
      4 December 2013 11: 00
      Quote: Nagan
      Quote: bomg.77
      Quote: bairat
      I also can not answer posts, throws up. the browser was scum.

      I have the same crap. I checked on 3x computers with different versions of Firefox, it’s buggy everywhere.
      I kind of recovered hi
      1. +1
        4 December 2013 19: 31
        Quote: bomg.77
        I kind of recovered

        Me too
        hi
        1. 0
          5 December 2013 10: 35
          The problem is not in the browsers, but in the site.
  32. +8
    4 December 2013 10: 25
    Author Samsonov Alexander
    In Russian society, a sense of the incorrectness of the course of the current tandem of Putin-Medvedev is already ripening.

    Russian society has long matured that the course must be changed. Medveput's government only does what makes fun of the people. They bury billions of rubles in various stupid projects, steal the budget in billions, spend billions to support impoverished oligarchs, and save on social programs, on veterans. This government remains in power thanks to the running machine of fooling the people through the media, administrative levers, and the adoption of the necessary laws with the help of the United Russia party.
    The people are tired of liberals and librarians of shift workers of all stripes, they need a bright pro-Russian leader that everyone would follow. We need a government that would take care of its people.
  33. +11
    4 December 2013 10: 30
    Comrade Stalin was right: "cadres decide everything." Fixated on a greasy "liberal" deck of managers, Putin signed a verdict for himself and the entire country.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +1
      4 December 2013 19: 16
      Quote: navodchik
      greasy "liberal" deck of managers

      No, swap the uppercase letters in the "KOLODE" and remove the small lowercase letters between them, it will be more accurate!
  34. cenych
    0
    4 December 2013 10: 33
    Quote: MIKHAN

    I think Putin understands this. that’s why it’s hesitant ..? (today infa slipped that some kind of anti-corruption department was created (not a commission or committee, but a department) Oh Russia ..!


    The department will prepare proposals to the president on combating corruption in state bodies and other state bodies, local authorities and organizations, as well as resolving conflicts of interest.
    In addition, the department will participate in the preparation of bills submitted by the president to the State Duma, draft decrees, orders, instructions and instructions of the president on issues within the competence of the structure, as well as in taking measures to identify and eliminate the causes and conditions conducive to a conflict of interest in public service in the presidential administration.

    As you can see, the administration is not just anti-corruption, in fact it is for adoption and, most importantly, for controlling adopted laws.
    Well, according to the article ... Stalin did not immediately appear, he handed over the reins of power and Lenin helped the opposition, and Stalin could not completely uproot it. So, IMHO, everyone is ahead, they are already talking about changing the Constitution, the pace of strengthening the army is increasing and we are starting to play a role in foreign policy.
  35. -3
    4 December 2013 10: 34
    They are trying to destroy Russian civilization as long as it exists. Cyrus, Darius, Alexander, who were allowed to seize half the world and concentrate enormous military resources in their hands, were crushed by the fortitude of the "wild scattered tribes" of the northern land. Then there was Napoleon, Kaiser, Hitler ...

    Now, under the green banners of Islam, another raid on Russia is being prepared ... The war against us never ends. In the 90's, we lost the battle, but not the war as a whole.

    War goes on all the points of common means of controlling mankind. It only goes from cold to hot ...

    http://cs11079.userapi.com/v11079984/c3a/n5Uy4Q2ge24.jpg
    (even nonche forum is buggy not childish ...)

    On the 20 of the day, Vladimir Putin announced our concept of development, thereby summing up the conceptual uncertainty of the post-perestroika period. Conceptual power is the highest power in society. Proceeding from the concept, an ideology is formed, proceeding from ideology, laws ...

    Russia is reborn again.
    1. +1
      5 December 2013 10: 38
      He announced it, but the words are wind. Do it.
  36. +7
    4 December 2013 10: 37
    It seems to me that we cannot be destroyed, the war does not work, so now they are trying to replace us with values ​​and morality, but this will not take us, we will survive and spit it out and do it our way wassat
  37. Sovman
    +10
    4 December 2013 10: 37
    The worst thing is that over the years after the collapse of the Union and all kinds of education reforms, a generation has grown up in the former fraternal republics that does not feel like a single people. The upbringing of patriotism is completely absent, nationalism is instilled in its place (in Ukraine this is so). And this education system is one of the lines of the strategy of the destruction of the Russian people. As a result, what is happening in Ukraine now.
  38. +1
    4 December 2013 10: 55
    Here are the actions of the chicks of Putin's "vertical of power". The moment of truth with Karaulov
    1. -3
      4 December 2013 11: 02
      Quote: K-36
      Here are the actions of Putin's chicks "power vertical".

      You have strange ideas about power. She has power or not. Are you for anarchy? For the collapse of Russia?
      Remember the tale about a broom, which is not possible to break, but on a branch - easily.
  39. Oskar
    +6
    4 December 2013 10: 57
    And I do not want to be a "true Aryan", after that, as a rule, loyalty to some Fuhrer or party follows.
    Vadivak
    There is a risk that denying Russian nationalism, we get Islamic ... God forbid!
    1. olviko
      0
      4 December 2013 17: 22
      "There is a risk that by denying Russian nationalism, we will get Islamic"

      Of course, nothing happens, the emergence of all these fascisms means only one thing — that is necessary! The history of the 20th century shows that the Judeo-Protestant liberals are stubbornly eager for world domination. To do this, they unleashed 2 world wars, hoping that the Russians and Germans, equally hated by world plutocracy for their historical greatness, will bleed each other in war. And then it will be possible to end both at the same time. It is no longer a secret that the "Hitler project" was consistently prepared by Judeo-Protestant bankers. How many Russians and Germans were destroyed in these massacres? The most interesting thing is that both of them sincerely considered each other's enemies, not suspecting who in fact is their common mortal enemy.
  40. wanderer_032
    +7
    4 December 2013 11: 01
    I see that people understand the situation as a whole, and the author is well done.
    A vital question in another.
    Here we all see this whole mess. So why are we sitting and whining like beaten dogs.
    Or that we will wait until the next bone "benefactors of the people" will throw us, when yesterday it was necessary to act.
    And act without delay and compromise.
    I understand scary, but think about this. What awaits our children and grandchildren tomorrow?
    Isn’t you even more afraid of this thought?
    Are we, who are responsible for them today, let the different rats make them slaves.
    I think we need to prepare and then act.
    In small steps at first, and then under the "farewell of a Slav", a combatant, over the bones of these reptiles.
    To begin with, I think it is necessary to explain, to convince people that it is impossible to put up with it further.
    And then little by little everything will move off the ground.
    I also want to add, study military affairs, those who served remember your skills, remember equipment, weapons. I think that everything will be needed soon.
    And remember, no one will do this for us.
    Nobody will bring us a free, normal life on a plate with a blue border.
    We must do this for the sake of our descendants.
    Show determination, win!
    We will sit and whine, they will erase us into powder.
    No middle ground.
  41. Peaceful military
    +6
    4 December 2013 11: 01
    Alas, but this is already a "voice crying in the wilderness", for the most part, all on the "drum", for various reasons, but on the "drum" and already for the order of years. If, somehow, it does not stop, then all the described "delights" will come.
  42. +1
    4 December 2013 11: 02
    http://moment-istini.ru/ Судебная система, правоохранительная система, ФСБ. "Вертикаль власти", запрограммированная на бабло. И ей ***** и курс страны , да и сама страна. Смотрите и делайте выводы, дорогие соотечественники.
  43. sasska
    +8
    4 December 2013 11: 05
    Quote: baltika-18
    Quote: FC Skif
    Taxi out

    Under one condition, SKIF. If the course of power changes and Putin begins to destroy the system he created.
    Let's see next year will show how the situation will turn.
    Putin will begin to change, will sit until the age of 18. He will not begin, his career will end in 2015.


    quote: "Putin has said more than once that revising the results of privatization is impossible, thereby confirming his loyalty to the comprador bourgeoisie. Obviously, such a burden is beyond his strength."
    too much needs to be changed. as well as the guilty to punish. most likely nothing will be done.
  44. +7
    4 December 2013 11: 11
    Maybe I give a "clumsy" comparison. In general, something like this (metaphorically):
    Russia (Rus) is like a high mountain, steep slopes and inaccessible. And they all climb on it, climb and climb. They are trying to conquer, reach the top and hoist the "flag". Along the way, they build "camps", "bases" (NGOs and all kinds of other trash). They are trying to gain a foothold in the "crevices", they are trying to undermine this MOUNT at the very foundation (demography, export of resources, destruction of production). And she, the MOUNTAIN, stands in spite of everything, no one reached the top, and those who could catch on the edge of the top. The MOUNTAIN "shuddered", came down with avalanches and rockfalls, and cleared its slopes from all unnecessary. But there remained, there were those who huddled in the crevices, sat in the holes. And again they climbed, again trying to conquer the "top". Only it is in vain. This is apparently not in the power of mortals, it is higher. Russia as "a load on the scale of the world", a counterweight, a balance of the world. The collapse of Russia (of everything that is included in this concept) means the collapse of the whole world.
    Something like this. Though a bit clumsy. A tablet, a bus, going to work, angry people around. That rolled.
    1. +1
      5 December 2013 10: 46
      Great comparison. But even a great mountain can be pulled apart by grains of sand.
      They took out one grain of sand, and we have to add two, a hundred or a thousand - only then will our mountain rise.
  45. 0
    4 December 2013 11: 12
    The author began for health, finished for peace. It seems that I wanted to focus on one thing but forced to do another.
  46. +2
    4 December 2013 11: 18
    And who serves Putin, the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers? We started to be destroyed in the beginning of 17 years, Finnish, First and Second World War, Afghanistan, 90s, Chechnya, chips, hamburgers, milk which does not turn sour for half a year.
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  48. +1
    4 December 2013 11: 30
    Quote: full zero
    Vladimir, and who to change? look at the leaders of the opposition ... and catch yourself thinking, let Putin be forever!


    Change the leaders of the mass party, defending the interests of the whole people, the active role of the state in the economy, i.e. party socialist orientation.
    And surely a party leader, and not just a populist of political PR slogans.
    1. cenych
      0
      4 December 2013 12: 09
      Heh, how vague is it possible? Specifically: such a party, such a person, and something such figures are not visible in the Russian field.
  49. SIT
    -3
    4 December 2013 11: 52
    The eternal Russian questions - who is to blame and what to do. The whole article is devoted mainly to the first issue, which is generally revealed in a populist form without a deep political and economic analysis, which would be really interesting now. And the fact that Chubais is to blame for everything, we already hear which year. Who are Chubais, Abramovich and other Deripaska? You look at their physiognomy. This is at best pawns and sixes. The answer to the question of what to do in the whole large article comes down to only one line - to return to the Stalinist course. AS!? How to do it? Iron curtain from the west to build? So 1% of the country's food imports. Revive your Stalinist methods? Who will go to the collective farms to work hard with the workdays that the meter draws as he wants? Step forward! At the same time, we pass the passports to the village council and without permission before the collective farm they will not be given to anyone. Without a passport, you won’t go anywhere. At the same time, agricultural prices will fall every year by decree from above, regardless of labor productivity. Who was eager to plow on the ground? Here's a pity on the collective farm. The Stalinist control system is unthinkable without the NKVD. Recreating this machine? And shoot its leaders regularly every few years with their entire team? Such questions are the sea. Where are the beautiful solutions for the Stalinist course for real solutions in all spheres of society?
  50. +6
    4 December 2013 12: 07
    <<< In the occupied territory, the conquered population was not supposed to have schools, teachers, or movies, only vodka and tobacco, but also dancing and music (pay attention to the bacchanalia of all kinds of "factories of stars," dancing with stars "on TV).> >>
    How can a Great Russia be built if the Libesrals have DISRUPTED the system of training qualified personnel for the economy and even the defense industry is experiencing difficulties in recruiting specialists, and the media, incl. government officials, instead of promoting the importance and urgent need for such specialists and attracting young people to this important area, fill the heads of young people with advertising for the beautiful carefree glamorous life that the pro-Western show industry provides, inviting it to various castings, contests, "evezd factories"! Libesrals don't care about the economy and the greatness of Russia, they need SPECTACLES!
  51. moskal68
    +12
    4 December 2013 12: 07
    I have always wondered why a book in a store costs on average 250 rubles, and a bottle of vodka costs 70? Not a conspiracy theorist, but it's a fact.
    1. +3
      4 December 2013 12: 20
      Quote: 68
      ... why does a book in a store cost on average 250 rubles, and a bottle of vodka costs 70? ...

      Tooting. The attack on Russia is coming in all directions.
      If drugs, alcohol and tobacco are "harmful to health" then why are they not only easily available but also heavily advertised? If the white population is decreasing and being replaced by other races, then why do phenomena that reduce the birth rate continue to be cultivated? The film answers these questions:



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    2. Peaceful military
      +4
      4 December 2013 15: 01
      Quote: 68
      I have always wondered why a book in a store costs on average 250 rubles, and a bottle of vodka costs 70? Not a conspiracy theorist, but it's a fact.

      Interesting note. I never thought about it. True, our proportions are even steeper. 1/2 liter of cheap vodka 5 euros, a decent book from 15 and above.
      I remember Soviet times, decent books cost less than a bottle of vodka.
      1. +4
        4 December 2013 22: 28
        Quote: Peaceful military
        I remember Soviet times, decent books cost less than a bottle of vodka.

        But at the same time, there was a problem of shortage of decent literature. It was possible to purchase the same Pikul or Dumas only with coupons (issued after handing over a certain amount of paper), or by exchanging for something of equal value at book “piles”.
        1. fisherman
          -1
          4 December 2013 22: 41
          there was a problem of shortage of decent literature.


          In no case do I want to offend anyone, but there were on free sale: “Malaya Zemlya”, “Virgin Land”, other works, in the end you could buy “Materials of the 24th Congress of the CPSU” :)
          1. Peaceful military
            0
            4 December 2013 23: 18
            Quote: fisherman
            In no case do I want to offend anyone, but there were on free sale: “Malaya Zemlya”, “Virgin Land”, other works, in the end you could buy “Materials of the 24th Congress of the CPSU” :)

            Yes, complete foolishness... hi
            1. fisherman
              0
              4 December 2013 23: 34
              Yes, complete foolishness...


              Are you familiar with the institution of holy fools in Rus'? do you know the subject?

              Didn't you like my joke? This joke is my life, and yours too :)
              1. Peaceful military
                0
                5 December 2013 01: 10
                Quote: fisherman
                Are you familiar with the institution of holy fools in Rus'? do you know the subject?
                Didn't you like my joke? This joke is my life, and yours too :)

                I know him and I know him, that’s why I reacted to your remark the way I did. hi
                1. fisherman
                  0
                  5 December 2013 01: 20
                  I know and know


                  perfectly

                  a) in this case, tell me the traditional object of their criticism?

                  b) who, in this case, should be called holy fools on this page? :)

                  "who thinks clearly, he clearly expounds"
                  1. Peaceful military
                    0
                    5 December 2013 01: 54
                    Quote: fisherman
                    I know and know

                    perfectly
                    a) in this case, tell me the traditional object of their criticism?
                    b) who, in this case, should be called holy fools on this page? :)
                    "who thinks clearly, he clearly expounds"

                    You have narrowed the concept too much to throwing feces at government officials. There everything is wider and deeper, and throwing one’s own excrement at government officials is not the biggest part of the life activity of holy fools.
                    In addition, they were both natural and professional, and even from different, so to speak, parties.
                    1. fisherman
                      0
                      5 December 2013 02: 02
                      You've narrowed the concept too much


                      I did not narrow the concepts, and I did not define holy fools

                      I asked two very simple questions to the point

                      I remind you: “he who thinks clearly, speaks clearly” (Boileau)
            2. 0
              5 December 2013 10: 56
              Peaceful military (2) EE Yesterday, 23:18 ↑

              Quote: fisherman
              In no case do I want to offend anyone, but there were on free sale: “Malaya Zemlya”, “Virgin Land”, other works, in the end you could buy “Materials of the 24th Congress of the CPSU” :)

              Yes, complete foolishness... hi

              No foolishness - the bitter truth.
              My parents, in order to give me a two-volume edition of Pushkin for my 16th birthday, signed up for the waiting list when I was only 11 years old.
              But they received it a year late.
              1. Peaceful military
                0
                5 December 2013 12: 37
                Quote: Kahlan Amnell
                No foolishness - the bitter truth.
                My parents, in order to give me a two-volume edition of Pushkin for my 16th birthday, signed up for the waiting list when I was only 11 years old.
                But they received it a year late.

                I sympathize, but your particular case does not illustrate anything, except for one thing, it was accessible, albeit not always instantly, because of this, motivation was perfectly tested and the patience necessary for character was developed.
                I have the completely opposite experience, which to this day results in a rather impatient nature. hi
        2. Peaceful military
          +1
          4 December 2013 23: 16
          Quote: Tersky
          But at the same time, there was a problem of shortage of decent literature. It was possible to purchase the same Pikul or Dumas only with coupons (issued after handing over a certain amount of paper), or by exchanging for something of equal value at book “piles”.

          Well, I never considered historical storytellers like Pikul and Dumas to be decent literature, just fascinating reading.
          But what you didn’t mention, maybe you forgot, or maybe you didn’t find it - various kinds of subscription publications and series were available, although they weren’t cheap, and they abounded in decent literature. Yes, and handing over waste paper for coupons for interesting books is not so ridiculous.
          Maybe they will say again that, well, it’s here in the Baltics. However, I served in more than one garrison in the outback and I don’t remember a single family of colleagues that did not have a decent library. It is clear that the basis was made up of books donated by the parents of the lieutenants, but, as my parents told me, this was also collected for me.
          So there was no problem.
          1. Beck
            0
            5 December 2013 08: 32
            Quote: Peaceful military
            I remember Soviet times, decent books cost less than a bottle of vodka.


            Quote: Tersky
            But at the same time, there was a problem of shortage of decent literature.


            Quote: Peaceful military
            But what you didn’t mention, maybe you forgot, or maybe you didn’t find it - various kinds of subscription publications and series were available, although they weren’t cheap, and they abounded in decent literature.


            I can add my spoon, and let others decide.

            As always, phenomena of the past are forgotten, embellished, and acquired a certain halo. Yes, there were coupons, there were subscription publications, there was a certain excitement for good literature (with good calico and a solid cover). And now there is an opinion that previously almost the whole country read, but now, when books are freely standing on the shelves, no one reads. They say the country is deteriorating.

            In fact, there is no country with 100% reading enthusiasts. Reading enthusiasts are much less than 50% in any country in the world, maybe 10, maybe 20%. It’s like there can’t be all the fishing enthusiasts. It cannot be that the whole country read and then stopped reading.

            In the USSR, there was a stir in the 70-80s. The book has become not a thing of reading, thinking, experiencing, but has become a thing of Prestigious Scarcity. IT WAS FASHIONABLE AND SOLID to have shelves with books in the house. This explains all the rush demand for the book. Lovers of show-offs filled the shelves with books, not only without reading them, but without even opening them even once. Several times, in such houses, I took a book from the shelf and discovered that the pages were stuck together in many places. It was more important for lovers of show-offs to list and show world authors in respectable collencores with a meaningful air than to read them.
            1. Peaceful military
              0
              5 December 2013 12: 44
              Quote: Beck
              It was more important for lovers of show-offs to list and show world authors in respectable collencores with a meaningful air than to read them.

              And this was, which absolutely does not illustrate anything, because I know a lot of people/families with decent libraries, which, as they were read then, continue to be replenished with the aim of reading and introducing future generations to it.
              If you are unlucky with your social circle, then, again, this does not illustrate anything.
              It seems to me that the percentages and generalizations you indicated were just made up. hi
              1. Beck
                0
                5 December 2013 14: 27
                Quote: Peaceful military
                because I know a lot of people/families with decent libraries, which, as they were read then, continue to be replenished with the aim of reading and introducing future generations to it.


                So I made a special reservation that there are 10-20% of people who love reading in any country. And I didn’t say that during the Soviet era absolutely everyone bought books just because of the Hype. And I also knew people who bought the book truly for reading.
  52. sasska
    +6
    4 December 2013 12: 15
    Russia is a special world. There are officials and everyone else. Officials in Russia are a community of yeast. This yeast is food confident. In her regular arrival. At $70 a barrel the yeast is starving.

    And they will always reproduce - a little slower than before, but they are confident that they will always be transplanted to new soil. Therefore, they eat without looking back.

    How does this threaten Russia? The first is the collapse of the ruble. Then those who trade in oil will win, and the yeast will receive food. The second is an increase in taxes. This always happens in countries where yeast rules. ... That's the whole scenario. When it will be? This could be in two hours or any time within ten years.

    Alexander Pokrovsky, 2009
  53. +4
    4 December 2013 12: 19
    Loved it - Thanks for the article!
  54. +3
    4 December 2013 12: 23
    Again questions that cannot be answered. We must love our wife, give birth to children no matter what, raise them in the traditions of our great ancestors, work...... and then no one will be afraid of us
  55. +4
    4 December 2013 12: 27
    The strategy is in action, it's noticeable. Their task is to separate the three fundamental people of Russian civilization. An intelligent (educated) person will not succumb to this. So let's ignore the action of the "strategy to destroy the Russian people." Let them rip their throats out. We will act as our grandfathers and great-grandfathers taught us.
  56. +1
    4 December 2013 12: 52
    Quote: SIT
    The eternal Russian questions - who is to blame and what to do. The whole article is devoted mainly to the first issue, which is generally revealed in a populist form without a deep political and economic analysis, which would be really interesting now. And the fact that Chubais is to blame for everything, we already hear which year. Who are Chubais, Abramovich and other Deripaska? You look at their physiognomy. This is at best pawns and sixes. The answer to the question of what to do in the whole large article comes down to only one line - to return to the Stalinist course. AS!? How to do it? Iron curtain from the west to build? So 1% of the country's food imports. Revive your Stalinist methods? Who will go to the collective farms to work hard with the workdays that the meter draws as he wants? Step forward! At the same time, we pass the passports to the village council and without permission before the collective farm they will not be given to anyone. Without a passport, you won’t go anywhere. At the same time, agricultural prices will fall every year by decree from above, regardless of labor productivity. Who was eager to plow on the ground? Here's a pity on the collective farm. The Stalinist control system is unthinkable without the NKVD. Recreating this machine? And shoot its leaders regularly every few years with their entire team? Such questions are the sea. Where are the beautiful solutions for the Stalinist course for real solutions in all spheres of society?

    I almost completely agree with you, the author does not mention the negative side of the Stalinist system, it is only partly acceptable to us. It must be used in a highly modernized form, taking into account all its errors. Then it will no longer be Stalin’s, but another system similar to it. Our people may not be able to withstand the harsh measures of those years now. We need something more flexible, without a planned economy, but with the nationalization of the extraction of basic resources and industry. We need a tax system, not a parody of it, a single state bank - a 90% monopolist of banking services, provided: a bank for the state, and not vice versa. Reform of the judicial system, criminal and civil legislation in general. Education reform = popularization of blue-collar, applied professions (otherwise there will soon be only managers and economists whose hands are growing out of wits). Not abolition, but encouragement of private property by the state with its strict control: “if you want to have capital, think about how to earn it honestly, and don’t steal! The state will help (not for free, of course).” “If you want to work on the land: we create the conditions - you produce ECOLOGICALLY CLEAN products, if we can help” (and as it is now, you won’t drive anyone into the village! Not for any money, if there is no future.). etc. etc.....You can list a lot of things as you would like, as it would be... but for now there are only WOULD.
    1. SIT
      +6
      4 December 2013 13: 17
      Quote: Little Saturn
      We need something more flexible, without a planned economy, but with the nationalization of the extraction of basic resources and industry

      Here in this part you can think about using elements of the Stalinist system. The state and government, through nationalized natural monopolies, can regulate the direction of market movement in the direction necessary for the country, but those who will be at the head of the management of these natural monopolies must bear the corresponding responsibility. Write in the Constitution that natural monopolies are the basis of the country's security and then in the Criminal Code, in the article treason, add a paragraph for crimes in the sphere of natural monopolies. Even for trying to build a palace like Yakunin’s, you are immediately sent to the White Swan for life. With an annual salary of 27 million. dollars a year as it is now for the president of Rosneft, receiving a kickback should become deadly. All his subordinates must also understand that it is impossible to get away from the article of treason against the Motherland for any kickback money, because kickback in their field of activity is not negligence or even an economic crime with a suspended sentence, but an immediate dismissal without any options.
    2. +1
      4 December 2013 13: 37
      It's a pity that only one plus can be given. They just read my mind.
    3. Angry reader
      +2
      4 December 2013 23: 28
      “Give the state 20 years of internal and external peace, and you will not recognize Russia!” - I just want to add with regret... They won’t give it and don’t hope, and I.V. Stalin, it seems to me, understood this very well, hence all the distortions and rigidity, because otherwise... it would have been like until recently.
      "When criticizing a friend, think about what you would do in his place"
  57. Angry reader
    +3
    4 December 2013 13: 08
    “The last two-plus decades of the history of the Russian Federation have been practically wasted. There is nothing to be proud of. Even military developments are entirely modernizations of Soviet projects. The current advertisement for the 2014 Olympics only emphasizes the wretchedness of modern Russia and the brilliant Soviet past.”
    To the author... For the last 2 decades, Russia has been struggling with where it was driven, including the author. In general, rarely does anyone recover from such disasters... but thank God we are the exception. And we can at least be proud that we live in the same country. And to see the negative... everyone sees what they want to see.
    Comparison with the USSR is inappropriate - everyone screwed up. The author should not separate himself from the rest.)
  58. +1
    4 December 2013 13: 32
    At first glance, Putin is not bad when it comes to foreign policy. As a KGB graduate, he is focused on solving such problems, but in terms of building an internal organization, there are obvious slippages.
    As for me, he would not be a bad foreign minister, but who will lead the country as a whole then? We also need strong-willed people with extensive knowledge and understanding of the RUSSIAN (non-Russian) people.

    Recently, Putin had a meeting with students of Moscow State University. I personally didn’t like the fact that he is practically against changing the constitution. I agree that it needs to be changed very carefully, consistently and extremely thoughtfully. But the fact is that a dozen amendments in it are clearly anti-RUSSIAN in nature and are aimed at destroying the Russian Federation.
    Don’t judge strictly, I can’t name them all (amendments), but at least about the INF Treaty, priority over foreign policy compared to domestic policy. Of course, not quotes, but the meaning is close.

    p.s. By the word "RUSSIAN" I do not mean any racist themes...
    p.p.s. It also seems to me that Putin is not an enemy for the Russian Federation (as many claim), he has simply exhausted himself, or it will sound more beautiful: he did everything he could. And what he could have been summed up by historians in a couple of decades!
    1. 0
      4 December 2013 13: 51
      Quote: silver_roman
      ... Recently, Putin had a meeting with MSU students the other day. I personally didn’t like the fact that he is practically against changing the constitution...

      As far as I remember, Putin spoke out against the infringement of the constitutional rights of citizens. That's all!
      I haven’t heard that he is against changing the constitution.

      "Therefore, it is understandable that some adjustments need to be made.. But there are things, I spoke about this at the very beginning, they are fundamental - the rights and freedoms of the citizens of our country. They are unshakable. And these are things of a fundamental nature. This needs to be treated with the utmost care. I wouldn't touch it at all."

      link to video: http://news.kremlin.ru/video/1666

      Don't trust the media. They don't belong to us. Use primary sources.
      1. 0
        4 December 2013 16: 46
        I'm talking about this article: http://vz.ru/news/2013/12/3/662543.html

        I re-read it today after your comment.
        I didn’t express myself correctly: Putin is not exactly against it, but is not particularly ready to change the constitution - he treats this with great caution.

        Putin:"
        The rights and freedoms of citizens must remain unshakable, although changes to the Constitution are possible
        "

        Those. as I understand it, he says that in principle it can be changed, but when this will happen and whether it will happen at all (under his presidency) he does not answer.

        in my subjective opinion, it is with the constitution that we should start. The topic with its correction has been discussed for a long time, but things are still there.
        1. +1
          4 December 2013 17: 21
          Quote: silver_roman
          Those. as I understand it, he says that in principle it can be changed, but when this will happen and whether it will happen at all (under his presidency) he does not answer.

          And he can’t do it any other way. According to the constitution, he is its guarantor. To openly say that the constitution needs to be changed is to give the “Bolotnaya” a legitimate reason to demand his resignation. This also needs to be taken into account... so he chooses streamlined shapes...
          1. +3
            4 December 2013 17: 50
            Quote: Boris55
            That’s why he chooses streamlined shapes...

            The Russian language is rich and powerful... you can speak as much as you like, as long as you back it up with actions.
            I just can’t understand how Putin feels about changing the constitution.
            He should know and understand how critical this issue is in terms of Russia’s survival!
            1. -1
              4 December 2013 18: 01
              I believe that Putin is for changing it. The Constitution, written in 93 by liberals under the dictation of the amers, does not allow Russia to develop. I think an article about the constitution will appear on the site, especially since its 20th anniversary is coming soon...
              1. 0
                5 December 2013 16: 54
                God grant that it be so.
                There is already an article on VO, but unfortunately this doesn’t mean anything yet.
    2. Angry reader
      -4
      4 December 2013 14: 27
      Justify that you are exhausted..
      1. 0
        4 December 2013 16: 49
        Quote: Angry Reader
        Justify that you are exhausted..

        I’m not “exhausted”, but I’m working! Unlike YOU, my personal time is limited by many things that do not concern you!
        1. Angry reader
          -2
          4 December 2013 18: 23
          Do you hear, Papa Carlo, I’m actually talking about explosives...)))
          take into account punctuation marks (absence of a comma and question mark) or learn when it is not limited)
          1. 0
            4 December 2013 18: 35
            I didn't understand your message at all then.
            if you want people to understand you, then learn to express your thoughts correctly, and do not point out who should teach what.
            Quote: Angry Reader
            I'm talking about explosives in general..)))

            what does it mean?
            Are you suggesting that Putin argue something?

            and what do you mean by
            Quote: Angry Reader
            Папа Карло
            ??
            I’m just asking and not drawing conclusions about your personality for now!
            1. Angry reader
              -2
              4 December 2013 18: 41
              .. I proposed to argue the thesis that BB has run out of steam... they misunderstood me only because you don’t remember the punctuation on the letter.) They completely forgot, I don’t even consider not knowing

              Quote: silver_roman
              Quote: Angry Reader
              Justify that you are exhausted..

              I’m not “exhausted”, but I’m working! Unlike YOU, my personal time is limited by many things that do not concern you!


              Do you have any questions about P. Karla? and assessment of my personality, or to unravel?
              By God, children..., -there’s nothing to answer, they’re minus)))
              1. -1
                4 December 2013 19: 23
                I'm not minus you.
                Question about item Karla!
                I don't need grades...
                As for the children, there are so many of them here.
                Regarding punctuation: you can highlight my words and click “quote”. then I will at least understand what you want to hear my argument about. It's not about knowledge...
                exhausted: foreign policy dominates domestic policy, which is not right. When I came for my first term, the “bourgeoisie” immediately tucked their tails between their legs. now for some reason it has stopped...are there really no places in prisons or have the thieves disappeared?

                I repeat: he is a KGBist, his strong point is precisely foreign policy issues, and at which he excels. what to do inside???
                1. Angry reader
                  0
                  4 December 2013 20: 47
                  “What we cannot understand today will not necessarily remain incomprehensible tomorrow.”
                  There is no internal without the external, and there is no external without the internal.

                  Regarding the vectors of work of the Prime Minister and the First (in domestic cuisine), the First is on the outside, the Prime Minister is on the inside. (Leave comments about the professional suitability of DAM, it’s out of place, he’ll serve out his time and go off to head the arbitration Themis)
                  By the way, that’s why they received the final scolding.
                  If you don’t know, then the external processes taking place, if you ignore them .. can oh how quickly they affect the internal one, and the internal one then HELL how can you help
                  ps about quotes, this is my third day on the forum, so I’m getting the hang of it.
                  1. 0
                    4 December 2013 21: 14
                    Quote: Angry Reader
                    There is no internal without the external, and there is no external without the internal.


                    the proportion must be kept within reasonable limits... of course towards the internal because why do we live?
                    Quote: Angry Reader
                    If you don’t know, then the external processes taking place, if you ignore them .. can oh how quickly they affect the internal one, and the internal one then HELL how can you help


                    It is indisputable.
                    It’s just that when something goes wrong in our own garden, we go to other people’s gardens.
                    Russia has always been a counterweight to the “West”. The USSR proposed its own model, which was supported by many. Russia is the heir and one of the last “lines of defense.” Now it cannot offer anything, because she herself follows the Western path, or she would like to believe in what she pretends to do in the Western way.

                    An example of foreign policy: the situation in my “independent” Ukraine. It’s trite if (I don’t want to offend my fellow countrymen, but some are just asking for it...Maidan activists) they saw that there are a lot of good things in Russia, then the issue with the association would have been resolved or would not even have arisen. Whatever you say, you still think about your own skin . The Russian Federation has a lot of good things that are close to Ukraine - two parts of one whole, it just needs to be shown and developed. You should have heard what kind of mud they sometimes throw at the Russian Federation here. I'll start fighting soon angry

                    p.s. a lot of offtopic, but it hurts. I think my position is clear.

                    p.p.s. and besides, the stronger the country is inside, the less external factors will affect it!
                    1. Angry reader
                      0
                      4 December 2013 22: 08
                      you know, in the USSR in the 70s. an experiment was carried out, the meaning was as follows: a group of students (medics) were shown a photo identikit of a person, and the leader of the experiment made the introduction: the person is a photo maniac, in general, that kind of person, and asked the students to tell the students what they think about him.
                      And the second part of the experiment, the same sketch, other students and the introduction that he is a genius-philanthropist and just a darling
                      The result is that adult Soviet people, unclouded by all the nastiness of the information war, clearly told by facial features (by eyes) in 1 case that it was easier to shoot him; 2 - that his eyes betray his genius..
                      The video is on YouTube. and this is me on the question of the nasty things said in our direction.
                      well, not everything is so bad again... here the question is whether the glass is full, the question is half empty, or half full)))
                      about the beds... imagine the situation... not everything is going well in your vegetable garden, but from the neighbor’s vegetable garden you are simply sprouting a ton of weeds, risking destroying what can still be fixed..- will you climb??)))
                      A stronger country means less action, the country of Cuba, is it talking about something??))
                      1. Angry reader
                        +2
                        4 December 2013 22: 57
                        who can explain the disadvantages??..or “my revenge is terrible?”)))
                      2. fisherman
                        +1
                        4 December 2013 23: 25
                        if you allow, I will try to explain... my advantage :)

                        the thing is that people with subtle humor always evoked positive emotions in me, even if they defend the opposite point of view, they always rely on logic and not on emotions, apparently this is due to the fact that a sense of humor is directly related with the work of the brain, not other members :)

                        and in the army environment they are familiar and very useful

                        besides, I don’t give minuses at all, except once, it was too bad for me

                        let people give downvotes, don’t be angry with them, many of them feel better at heart, they become kinder :)
                      3. Angry reader
                        +1
                        5 December 2013 00: 02
                        Thank you for the plus and point of view. I'm not angry)),
                        I don’t pretend to be the ultimate truth, truth is born in a dispute, that’s why I urgently ask you to explain them in at least three words, their disadvantages are disagreement with my position. There are a lot of people and opinions.
                        After all, the forum is a discussion, not a rating of articles.
                        With respect. hi
                        PS and order... yeah it seems)) 3 days on the forum, I didn’t expect that I would come across it so quickly...)
                      4. +1
                        5 December 2013 01: 22
                        I put a plus as a counterbalance, because I encountered this myself. In terms of minuses, a herd feeling works: when a person sees red (minuses), he also sculpts it involuntarily, without reading the post, and without delving into the essence.
                        This is the cruel reality)))
                      5. Angry reader
                        0
                        5 December 2013 02: 28
                        Rather, it is “revenge” on a little “unwound” trolls and their ilk. There is one)
                      6. 0
                        5 December 2013 01: 20
                        Quote: Angry Reader
                        about the beds... imagine the situation... not everything is going well in your vegetable garden, but from the neighbor’s vegetable garden you are simply sprouting a ton of weeds, risking destroying what can still be fixed..- will you climb??)))


                        I think we are repeating ourselves. if they come from outside, then of course you need to hold the defense, but at the same time do not forget purely internal issues. Now there is no longer black or white, everything is relative. Your words about the glass being full confirm this (similarity with my opinion). Sometimes the solution to one issue requires action both on the external front and on the internal one. But I repeat once again: the proportion should be in favor of the internal organization of the state. Then there will be a foundation in foreign policy and the opportunity to always retreat. Otherwise it turns out to be a colossus with feet of clay.

                        Quote: Angry Reader
                        A stronger country means less action, the country of Cuba, is it talking about something??))

                        If it’s not difficult, could you write more openly, otherwise I can’t always remember what we talked about before. I answer many people and besides, I also have personal questions besides the forum).
                        It would be funny if I hadn’t heard of Cuba. You probably think I’m an idiot)).
                        Was Cuba a strong country? it enjoyed the support of the USSR, but due to the fact that it was under the belly of the states, there was no time for jokes. Does the Cuban missile crisis mean something?)) and it’s not about the strength of Cuba...
                      7. Angry reader
                        +1
                        5 December 2013 02: 25
                        Thanks for understanding,
                        More details about the garden bed:..)
                        The situation as I see it (I'm a 3-star gardener): You planted tomatoes in the ground, water (water is limited and let's say you pay dearly for it)... water and water... and part of the water feeds the neighbor's weeds. - goes time, you understand that soon you need to “tie them up”, and the tomatoes are sick, yellow, limp, dry... and... you’ll go to your neighbor and send him to hell... (because you’ve lost a lot of strength and time for tomatoes, and the weeds have spoiled everything) water the weeds with Nitrophos (I think that’s what it was called)... otherwise water it or not..
                        I definitely don’t consider you an idiot (rest assured)..Cuba was and is strong in terms of community, strong in people, that’s what I’m talking about. In principle, there is no other force other than social bonds. No matter how they climbed into Cuba, those who climbed are still there.
                      8. +1
                        5 December 2013 11: 11
                        However, you are a lover of metaphors))). It's even fun.
                        let's talk about the fact, since we touched on this topic...and without the "tomatoes and evil neighbors."
                        Our internal problems caused by the actions of “liberal” traitors cannot be solved solely by external influences. No, of course, if you wipe the USA, Great Britain, the Gulf monarchies, Israel, China and half of Europe from the face of the Earth, then maybe for some time some of the problems will disappear. Chubais will transfer and become a communist))).
                        I really support Putin in terms of the law on NGOs. This greatly cuts the ground from under the traitors' feet. We need to act further and more while the same states are dealing with their internal problems. There is a reserve of time.
                        That's why I'm talking about the constitution. I personally am very impressed by Evgeny Fedorov. He (if you haven’t heard of him yet, which I doubt) is actively making proposals for internal reformation of both the constitution and other equally important aspects that directly affect our sovereignty!
                        If you want, I can send you a couple of links. The videos are about 1.5 hours long. That or just search on yoytube and you’ll find everything.

                        Cuba is indeed strong in spirit, but it is because of its leader that it is strong. Now Raul is on the “throne”, but the essence has not changed. What will happen when the dynasty leaves power? if he leaves...
                      9. Angry reader
                        +1
                        5 December 2013 11: 52
                        ...so the domestic liberal is strong not in spirit, but in money)) the law on NGOs is a small step, rather an internal one, and if conditions are created in the external environment.. that the sponsors will have no time for our liberals.. - they will dissolve in six months, because- without grants, the “Euro-liberal” light is off))
                        Fedorov is a fake, and NOD, if you look at the highest council of the movement, you will see there the name of Dvorkovich, Arkasha’s brother))
                        So I mean the same thing.. Society is strong, but it is effective with a strong leader.. and stronger or weaker ones will interfere..
                        but you don’t need to wash it..it’s enough..-place the flags..-like on a hunt.
                      10. Angry reader
                        +1
                        5 December 2013 13: 27
                        I repeat, but “Give the state 20 years of internal and external peace, and you won’t recognize Russia!”... - they will never give you the external, they will wash down the rutabaga with milk, but they won’t give it if you focus on the interior at the expense of external fuss
                      11. 0
                        5 December 2013 13: 43
                        wait, wait... I’m not saying to completely “forget” the external appearance... just the proportion so that it is, well, let’s say roughly 40 to 60!
                      12. 0
                        5 December 2013 13: 34
                        Quote: Angry Reader
                        the law on NGOs is a small step, rather an internal one

                        internal of course.

                        This is just how I see the situation you describe:
                        We spend a lot of energy to create a problem for the main sponsor of our problems. there is logic in this. but are we still strong enough to give such a serious rebuff?
                        it’s still easier to act within the country: here you have the support of the people, and it seems like you can SOMETIMES enact laws in the interests of the state.
                        But on the front line, behind enemy lines, everything is much more complicated: there is no such room for maneuver.
                        It’s like going to work when you’re sick: you seem to be there, but you’re not much use: your efficiency is low.
                        But when you recover, then the results will be better.
                        I am still in favor of establishing order within the country as a matter of priority.

                        But what I agree with you is that we must definitely attack the enemy on all fronts when we establish relative order inside.
                        I always considered the USSR to be a great country, but it lacked something...aggression...in short, we are kind...not such vile animals as the Anglo-Saxons. And now we need to take advantage of the moment especially quickly while the beast is wounded!

                        ahh, about Fedorov: to be honest, I wasn’t interested in where he “came from,” but I like what exactly he says! There is meaning and logic in his words. And again: as far as I know, he does not have a motorcade of Mercedes, a country villa, which is already saying something in our country. Although he may very skillfully hide it all offshore... but it seems like the government is not allowed to keep funds offshore? Did they pass this law or not? do not know?
                      13. Angry reader
                        0
                        5 December 2013 14: 01
                        Strong resistance is a relative concept. It is not necessary to rush to the tanks with a fork; what is being done is enough.
                        I don’t argue with you at all about the importance of the inside, but, once again, sometimes moments happen when you need to focus on the outside, otherwise we simply won’t be able to handle the inside.
                        If you remember, the creation of an exchange for rubles was announced, where is it? - I’ll answer, the position of external factors is strong
                        There has already been an attempt to link the Central Bank to the state, again external factors are responsible.
                        So the point is that by sowing discord and disrupting the plans of the “neighborhood weeds,” we automatically undermine the position of their guides here at home.
                        Otherwise, we end up like Don Quixote and the mill.
                        According to Fedorov, yes, he says, but again the presence of Dvorkovich, and as a consequence, the money for the whole party?...I. please remember the emergence and development of such a comrade as Navalny, straight from publications with Transneft starting... Honestly, all this brings me to parallels
                      14. 0
                        5 December 2013 14: 21
                        An exchange for rubles is a direct challenge to the Federal Reserve System of the states and, as a result, the depreciation of the dollar due to a decrease in its turnover.
                        and the Central Bank is a matter of changing the constitution, which Fedorov insists on.
                        Regarding the “roots” of Fedorov and the appearance of Navalny, I don’t know much about this topic, unfortunately!
                      15. Angry reader
                        0
                        5 December 2013 14: 47
                        And the Central Bank is no longer a challenge, but a kick from the Fed, and a very noticeable one.
                        Accordingly, external appearance 1, at the moment, otherwise...explain why we are Don Quixote??)
                        Fedorov as an unconscious talking head. Find it, don't get lost
                        video on YouTube NOD and Dvorkovich. (nod is Fedorov), will make you think.


                        You yourself have now confirmed my statements)
                      16. 0
                        5 December 2013 15: 39
                        Quote: Angry Reader
                        You yourself have now confirmed my statements)


                        and I didn’t speak out particularly strongly against them. I'm just saying that you need to act carefully. kicking the Fed means slapping the states in the face with a glove.
                        Are we ready for this? and the Olympics and the 2018 World Cup are just around the corner...no one has canceled the terrorist attacks. By the way, there is an opinion that after the Olympics Putin’s hands will be untied)). Let's see what comes of this...
                        And again, as for me, it is much more important to “return” our Central Bank to its homeland than to try to bite the Fed! Do you disagree with me???

                        As I understand it, your intentions are to drive the last nail into the coffin of the states (or at least the first)???
                        Let's ask ourselves what the collapse of the states threatens for Russia?
                        I personally don’t undertake to calculate...there are too many factors.
                        We can say with confidence that after the 08 crisis, Russia began to build a more independent financial and other policy, which is undoubtedly correct. But while the United States is alive, our financiers also want to make a profit from the same dollar. Everything is much more complicated!
                      17. Angry reader
                        0
                        5 December 2013 16: 26
                        I repeat, read the brief principle of Byzantine diplomacy, about enemies (XNUMX lines) - this is me about the nails in the lid.
                        Without biting the Fed, without distracting its attention, I think it will be difficult to pin down the Central Bank. (And if it does bite, make some noise, and while it’s figuring out “Fuck is..?”, we’ll do our business gently)
                        But regarding financiers - speculative capital, we return exactly to the topic with which we started, “Has Putin run out of steam?”)))... - I think you don’t need to explain that in this retrospective, only BB and his team, these financiers, “will go on vacation for a while”...)
                      18. 0
                        5 December 2013 17: 49
                        Quote: Angry Reader
                        Let's just return to the topic with which we started

                        That's for sure. We guess and assume, but we don’t really know the facts.
                        so I think we'll stop there...
                      19. Angry reader
                        +1
                        5 December 2013 18: 06
                        good) hi drinks I was glad to discuss..)
                      20. +1
                        5 December 2013 18: 25
                        like drinks
                        I think not the last time!
        2. Fortnite
          0
          5 December 2013 16: 24
          REM Generally Angry reader about Putin...
          1. Angry reader
            0
            5 December 2013 16: 42
            ?) hi who is this for?
            1. Fortnite
              0
              5 December 2013 17: 10
              2 silver_roman Yesterday 16:49
  59. +1
    4 December 2013 13: 58
    Only by introducing a ban on abortion, as under Stalin, would we solve the demographic problem. The population would begin to increase due to the indigenous population. Liberals in the field of abortion also became the conductors of Hitler’s strategy to destroy the Russian people.

    Bans on abortion would indeed partially solve this problem; permission for abortion is possible only in cases of violence against a woman, or when there is a threat to the woman’s life and health. It is also important to create a job within walking distance and a stable, good income. Substantial state assistance to provide housing for large families.
    THE WORST thing is that SIGNIFICANT MEASURES HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN TO IMPROVE DEMOGRAPHY IN RUSSIA, although these steps are simple and possible on the part of the state.
  60. makeev.dmitry
    -3
    4 December 2013 14: 08
    Without a conclusion about Putin, everything is true, with a conclusion about his incapacity - a call to rebellion, which is what the enemies of Russia need. Over the past 13 years, the foundation for development has been laid, signs of a patriotic elite have appeared among the completely treacherous liberal elite. The country has been systematically destroyed since 1953. and you want to fix everything in a matter of years? Even a king or dictator is not capable of this, especially without the support of the population. Putin is not a king. And what kind of support? half of Muscovites voted in a referendum in 1991 against preserving the USSR - their homeland! Personnel decides everything! Where can you get them, competent patriots with a fighting character? wherever you spit, there are only pseudo-liberals, anti-advisers or eloquent ones. It is not necessary to build barricades, but to rebuild the country’s economy, slowly winning back the Motherland meter by meter from the occupiers, using our advantages and eradicating our shortcomings. In my opinion, this is what Putin is doing. It is not for nothing that in his name he OWNS THE WORLD twice and shows the WAY. I think so.
    1. wanderer_032
      +4
      4 December 2013 15: 47
      Tell me, dear, then why does he encourage moronic laws to which he puts his signature on the approval, why does he keep ministers and other officials who clearly cannot cope with their duties, and some of them cause irreparable harm to the country and people by their actions?
      1. Fortnite
        +1
        5 December 2013 16: 28
        In fact, the radiant one should be impaled for signing the Decree alone on the inviolability of drunkenness with the camarilla...
        1. Angry reader
          -2
          5 December 2013 16: 48
          Well, with the EBN, this is a signal .. that BB can be trusted at the initial stage (do you know how much trust is required), and as for the camarilla - everything has its time .. a bargaining chip for not supporting the newly-minted liberals
    2. -1
      4 December 2013 15: 54
      At least one is alive, thank God!
      Reading the writings of brainwashed lads is tiring.
      1. wanderer_032
        +2
        4 December 2013 15: 56
        And ours for you with a brush.
      2. Angry reader
        +3
        4 December 2013 21: 19
        You are our everything, Oracle, with a pure and clear brain)))
        1. wanderer_032
          0
          6 December 2013 18: 04
          I don’t claim to be the ultimate truth, I just expressed what I think.
          Those who think otherwise, this is their choice (just like the choice in March 12th, no matter how they would have to regret it, washing themselves with bloody tears and wiping themselves with bloody snot)
  61. +3
    4 December 2013 14: 19
    If the KGB overlooked Gorbaty with all his trips abroad with his wife and rapid career growth, then I’m already silent about these days. clean not clean!!, anyway, someone will come up. After the liquidation of Lavrenty Palych, everyone there suddenly relaxed.
  62. sasska
    +6
    4 December 2013 14: 35
    Quote: Goldmitro
    <<< In the occupied territory, the conquered population was not supposed to have schools, teachers, or movies, only vodka and tobacco, but also dancing and music (pay attention to the bacchanalia of all kinds of "factories of stars," dancing with stars "on TV).> >>
    How can a Great Russia be built if the Libesrals have DISRUPTED the system of training qualified personnel for the economy and even the defense industry is experiencing difficulties in recruiting specialists, and the media, incl. government officials, instead of promoting the importance and urgent need for such specialists and attracting young people to this important area, fill the heads of young people with advertising for the beautiful carefree glamorous life that the pro-Western show industry provides, inviting it to various castings, contests, "evezd factories"! Libesrals don't care about the economy and the greatness of Russia, they need SPECTACLES!


    Can I have an amateur's opinion?
    In general, it’s strange that Putin did not close the Country with the Iron Curtain. here, either there is a fear that this will cause an aggravation in the rest of the world and - as a consequence - a war, or this is a mistake bordering on a crime.
    Russia is self-sufficient: there are resources, energy, whatever, but an army. why sell resources for cut paper? Are Blend-a-med toothbrushes not enough for complete happiness?? Is margarine with E-additives not enough for development and prosperity? Well, why, no matter how rubbish is in the hole, so - to our shore?
    Are demographics suffering? ban abortions and send the Gasters to their villages to “Benya’s mother” - let them build a better life at home. There is, after all, experience on how to grow a society with heroes of its time - workers, engineers, officers, and not buffoons like Baskov and others like him.
    in 1941 the industry experienced evacuation and restoration of production in a new location. and now a pack of Deripaskas and other Abramovichs rule there, which has become more dangerous than fascist bombings. Well, that was the practice in the 30s, How fight this pestilence. Yes, the West will howl about “violation of human rights” and other unknown bullshit, so what? Yes, nothing - they’ll dry it off at that, “the dog barks, but the caravan moves on.”

    somehow like this.
    1. fisherman
      0
      4 December 2013 18: 23
      Can I have an amateur's opinion?
      In general, it’s strange that Putin did not close the Country with the Iron Curtain.


      can I ask a question from an amateur?

      to travel in the world of the Internet Do you use a domestic computer or a foreign one? :)
      1. Angry reader
        0
        5 December 2013 16: 59
        Don’t ask them that, such questions break their patterns. But the problem right now is that there are not enough training manuals. They begin to rave and talk. Have pity on the orphans..))
      2. Pinochet000
        0
        5 December 2013 19: 15
        Quote: fisherman
        to travel in the world of the Internet Do you use a domestic computer or a foreign one?

        I don’t know where it was made, but it is based on the hexadecimal number system; in Rus' Pud=16,3804815 is the exact value from Wikipedia, divide by 16 we get 1.02378009375, that is, 1024g. There are no such coincidences!
        More from Wikipedia for general development:
        In computer technology there are form factors (sizes) that are easier to measure in inches than in inches - 3,5 inches = 2 inches, 5,25 inches = 3 inches. A unit, a modern unit of width and height for electronic equipment enclosures, is exactly equal to an inch. And when two coincidences, what is it?
    2. Pinochet000
      +1
      5 December 2013 18: 43
      Quote: sasska
      somehow like this.

      Well said, well done!
  63. +6
    4 December 2013 14: 49
    Barrymore, who is this walking through the swamp with fire? - The Russians have the Olympics, sir!
  64. vadutc
    +3
    4 December 2013 15: 09
    Quote: 68
    I have always wondered why a book in a store costs on average 250 rubles, and a bottle of vodka costs 70? Not a conspiracy theorist, but it's a fact.


    Well, I can just add, why do they advertise shampoo and McDonald's, but don't advertise books?
  65. +1
    4 December 2013 16: 12
    Our people have always risen in times of trouble, making another breakthrough. It has always been this way. It will be so, history is an example of this.
    Western opinion about our army (not very new, but decisive) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKvf39-stnk
    the latest film about our army http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bad4fCdVF0s
  66. Beck
    +1
    4 December 2013 16: 24
    Conspiracies, plans, collusion, behind the scenes, Zionists, aliens, otherworldly forces.

    If you look at it soberly, these are all symptoms of a mental disorder.

    In delirium, the primary defeat of thinking itself is Rational, objective comprehension is affected, the distorted judgment is consistently supported by a number of subjective evidence, which has its own system called CROVE LOGIC. At the same time, other areas of the psyche can remain intact. However, when discussing items related to the delusional plot with the patient, affective tension is noted, which can be supplemented by emotional lability.
    This type of delirium is extremely persistent and significant resistance to treatment, a tendency towards progression and systematization [1]: “evidence” is put together into a subjectively coherent system (and everything that does not fit into this system is simply ignored), More and more parts of the world are being drawn into a delusional system.


    If you read the article carefully, it is true.

    There are NO racist, misanthropic theories and systems in the world now that would threaten genocide even to the smallest people, let alone the Russian people. Glorious for its history and contribution to world civilization.
    1. olviko
      +2
      4 December 2013 18: 14
      "There are NO racist, misanthropic theories and systems in the world now that would threaten genocide even to the smallest people,"

      Dear, don’t be offended, I’ll say one smart thing now! You seem to have forgotten what is happening in Syria, most recently what was happening in Libya. A few numbers, for comparison, Libya under Gaddafi:
      - GDP per capita is $14 - The state pays $192 in subsidies per year for each family member - $1 is paid for each newborn - Newlyweds are given $000 to buy an apartment - Education and medicine are free - Buying a car up to 7% paid by the state, militia fighters - 000%. - Gasoline is cheaper than water. 64 liter of gasoline - $000 - Unemployment benefit - $50 - A chain of stores for large families with symbolic prices for basic food products - There is no rent - There is no electricity payment for the population, etc., etc. This probably doesn’t exist in Kazakhstan either.
      What now ? You can search for yourself on the Internet. The most interesting thing is that no one guarantees that the same thing cannot happen to the Russians and Kazakhs. Not because our people are somehow bad, but we simply have a lot of oil, gas and other pleasant things that we have there are no others, but I really want it, preferably for free... So dear, no nonsense. As they say, nothing personal, just business.
      1. Beck
        -2
        4 December 2013 18: 40
        Quote: olviko
        Dear, don’t be offended, I’ll say one smart thing now! You seem to have forgotten what is happening in Syria, most recently what was happening in Libya.


        Not expensive, why be offended when there is no smart thing.

        You read one thing, drew conclusions from others and wrote what the hell.

        I wrote about theories and doctrines. Where is the theory that it is necessary to destroy the Syrian or Libyan peoples? There is none of them.

        Historical development, starting from the end of the 18th century, raised the question of the impossibility of the further existence of monarchies, sultanates, dictatorships. And starting from the 18th century, humanity gradually got rid of them. Now there are only a few countries left where monarchs have full power - the Sultan of Brunei, the King of Jordan, etc. Today's European kings are without power, they are an attribute of history and in some cases perform representative functions, for example, the Queen of England.

        Dictatorships are absolute evil. Monarchs at least had the prerogative of heredity. Dictators have nothing. Only the vanity of personal power.

        No one in the world called for the destruction of the Iraqi, Libyan, Tunisian, Chilean, and Spanish peoples. There was a desire to reset dictators Hussein, Gaddafi, Ben Ali, Pinochet, Franco. And they were deprived of power by their own people.

        That at this moment there is no Iraqi people, even though Hussein is not? Also, no one is calling for the destruction of the Syrian people. There is a civil war going on there, not genocide from outside.
  67. +8
    4 December 2013 17: 02
    And Stalin is all bad..... this is said by those who were bought by the West a long time ago, and the destruction of the country began immediately after Stalin’s death.
  68. lucidlook
    +2
    4 December 2013 17: 08
    In general, I agree. But I want to especially focus on the fact that from the moment the foundations of socialist labor were undermined, when social inequality and the exploitation of man by man were first consolidated de facto (with the advent of Khrushchev), and then de jure (with the advent of Yeltsin), - here It was from this time that a smooth slide began, first into stagnation, and then into degradation. Moreover, degradation in minds and hearts came first, and only then in the economy and society.

    Putin's plan today is a plan for enrichment. There is no need to expect fundamental changes; only cosmetic work is being done, and sometimes just the appearance of this work in terms of the social structure of society. Billions in revenue are still considered the main achievement. How exactly these billions were obtained is not so important. At the same time, the priority is to enrich the minority at the trough, as well as all those who are too strong and arrogant, so much so that it will not be possible to send them to jail. Obviously, 95% of the population is not included in this cohort (although they are included in the average statistics).

    Personally, I believe that there are simply no alternatives to socialism in its unperverted form. Although, perhaps all those Russians will not agree with me... many hundreds of thousands of Russianswho inhabit Russian communities around the world (see London, San Francisco, Houston, Chicago, etc., etc.)
  69. 0
    4 December 2013 17: 30
    Well, we need to do something. Why just talk?
    1. +2
      4 December 2013 17: 53
      It is necessary to drain the water or change the head... With such telpukhs and balabols as you now have at the helm, Russia will not last long... unfortunately...
      1. fisherman
        0
        4 December 2013 20: 11
        Now at the helm Russia will not last long... unfortunately...


        here articles about newly-minted prophets and oracles, as well as their forecasts from 2005 and 2006, just began to appear

        Don't disappear for long either, you will be interested to see the result yourself :)
  70. +1
    4 December 2013 17: 36
    I've been watching Putin for a long time! You can’t speak for 4 hours in front of an audience and lie and clown all the time! This will definitely be visible! He can't see it! He says what he thinks. And he is a normal statesman. In the conditions where he is, he does what he can. I'm absolutely sure of this. We should not forget about his environment, where not all of his “friends” are. He has neither the power nor the authority of Stalin. Therefore, one should not expect Stalinist decisions from him. It's naive.
    Politics is the art of the possible and he masters this art brilliantly.
    You do not forget about the influence of Jewish and American circles in Russia. They are the richest and most powerful. They can buy everyone. As soon as they feel that they are under attack, they will create such a Bolotnaya Square that Putin will be torn to pieces like Gaddafi.
    So waving your fists behind your back is one thing, but standing alone against the world mafia is another. And yet, Putin is holding on! Well done! You can give me a dozen minuses!
    1. lucidlook
      0
      4 December 2013 19: 03
      Quote: indifferent
      You can’t speak for 4 hours in front of an audience and lie and clown all the time!

      Why not? Wasn’t this taught at the Foreign Intelligence Academy? I think that 4 hours is absolutely dust for these guys! And where, how and in front of whom the graduate will use his skills depends on these... what's their... circumstances.
      1. 0
        4 December 2013 21: 12
        UUU how scary they are!!!!
        Be afraid!!!
        wassat
  71. Christian
    +3
    4 December 2013 17: 59
    Yeltsino Putin’s line is disastrous for the country and the people. Few people doubt this. But a Russian person must start with himself, his family, even now when the government is hostile to its people. First of all, the faith of our ancestors, raising children in the tradition of Orthodoxy will give their results - God will send us a Tsar-Liberator, the Empire and spirituality will be restored.
    1. +5
      4 December 2013 18: 13
      Quote: Christian
      God will send us a Tsar-Liberator

      But you can’t make a mistake yourself. With such media, it is impossible to raise normal children, and it is impossible to save a family. And the authorities at the same time say beautiful words and support the liberal race, which corrupts Our People. I am not calling for a revolution, now We have only one way out, to open the eyes of the blind. otherwise the People will miss Your king, like the Jews of Jesus. hi
      1. fisherman
        0
        4 December 2013 20: 21
        I am not calling for a revolution, now We have only one way out, to open the eyes of the blind. otherwise the People will miss Your king, like the Jews of Jesus.


        Do you doubt folk wisdom? :)

        It seems to me that your fellow revolutionaries will curse you if you continue to deviate from the party line, i.e. call not for a change of king, but for “cleaning the scales from the tail” :)
        1. +2
          4 December 2013 20: 46
          Quote: fisherman
          that your fellow revolutionaries will curse you if you continue to deviate from the party line, i.e. not to call for a change of king

          I am amused. lol And what is the name of our party? belay I did not call for a change of king, I said that the king was not adequate. fool If there had been a worthy candidate for the holy place, perhaps such a call would have been made on my part. And now I have to grind my teeth and put up with what is. hi
          1. fisherman
            0
            4 December 2013 21: 38
            I said that the king is not adequate.


            You are a completely normal person :)

            I want to say right away that we will all be unhappy with the next tsar, to put it mildly, because we are all normal Russian people :)

            and it will always be like this

            "The main thing is not to forget about the main thing"
  72. Unisonic
    +2
    4 December 2013 18: 03
    The origins of the demographic catastrophe lie at the door of 1917. The way of life of the Russian people, which allowed the population of the Russian Empire to grow by more than 20 million people over the last 40 years of the Empire, was curtailed. It is not surprising that in the Soviet state by the 60s there was an obvious trend towards a decrease in the birth rate of ex-Orthodox peoples. By 1991, the process was already obvious and could not be stopped. The once deeply spiritual people, wise, who built a huge Empire and populated it, were relegated to the category of a labor herd, working in workshops, drinking vodka after work and living in gray empty houses, where there is a newspaper Pravda and a speech by the Central Committee on TV.

    And what happened next is simply monstrous. The process of decline in the birth rate among Russians, natural for Soviet society, was phenomenally intensified by the absolute chaos that enveloped Russia after 91 years. And there... All the evil you can imagine, from the complete destruction of the social sphere to the alcohol and drug genocide of the people.

    But the worst is yet to come. Now the demographic situation is improving, because now the generation of 87-92 is giving birth, back then there were 2-3 children in families, and despite everything, the children were healthy for the most part.
    Can you imagine what will happen when it’s the generation of the late 90s and 2000s’ turn to give birth? Not only were catastrophically few people born then, but their lifestyle would also affect those born. A mother who started eating chemicals in the form of chips at age 10, smoking at age 13, and drinking jaguars at age 16 is unlikely to give birth to a healthy child at age 24. So take heart and get ready.
    1. +3
      4 December 2013 18: 23
      Quote: Unisonic
      Can you imagine what will happen when it’s the generation of the late 90s and 2000s’ turn to give birth?

      Scary. Agree with you.
  73. I. Timofeev
    +1
    4 December 2013 18: 43
    The comment does not appear - it says: The message contains text that is unacceptable for publication. There are no swear words. I don't understand anything
    1. +2
      4 December 2013 18: 51
      Quote: I. Timofeev
      There are no swear words.

      Some words are still considered unacceptable. Think and correct the doubtful ones. I also sat and thought in confusion hi
  74. FormerMariman
    +1
    4 December 2013 18: 43
    Quote: Beck
    Conspiracies, plans, collusion, behind the scenes, Zionists, aliens, otherworldly forces.

    If you look at it soberly, these are all symptoms of a mental disorder.

    In delirium, the primary defeat of thinking itself is Rational, objective comprehension is affected, the distorted judgment is consistently supported by a number of subjective evidence, which has its own system called CROVE LOGIC. At the same time, other areas of the psyche can remain intact. However, when discussing items related to the delusional plot with the patient, affective tension is noted, which can be supplemented by emotional lability.
    This type of delirium is extremely persistent and significant resistance to treatment, a tendency towards progression and systematization [1]: “evidence” is put together into a subjectively coherent system (and everything that does not fit into this system is simply ignored), More and more parts of the world are being drawn into a delusional system.


    If you read the article carefully, it is true.

    There are NO racist, misanthropic theories and systems in the world now that would threaten genocide even to the smallest people, let alone the Russian people. Glorious for its history and contribution to world civilization.

    Just an emotional article! In general, introduce a tax in case there are less than 1-2 children in the regions (Oryol, Novgorod, Pskov, etc., except for the North Caucasus), and swearing. raise capital.
  75. makeev.dmitry
    +1
    4 December 2013 18: 44
    Dear comrades. Don’t you think that such topics are being raised with the aim of channeling our patriotic fervor? Instead of working for the good of the Motherland, improving our qualifications, acquiring new knowledge and skills (including managerial ones). Instead, we engage in graphomania during working hours? Is this of great benefit to the suffering Motherland? I wish everyone to realize their good thoughts to the greatest extent possible and in practice.
  76. makeev.dmitry
    0
    4 December 2013 18: 44
    Dear comrades. Don’t you think that such topics are being raised with the aim of channeling our patriotic fervor? Instead of working for the good of the Motherland, improving our qualifications, acquiring new knowledge and skills (including managerial ones). Instead, we engage in graphomania during working hours? Is this of great benefit to the suffering Motherland? I wish everyone to realize their good thoughts to the greatest extent possible and in practice.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. realist
      +2
      4 December 2013 19: 46
      that is, you propose that everyone sit in their places, work for the benefit of the oligarchy and not even try to ask questions about why everything is going into the abyss? Yes, this is just a dream of certain circles.
      1. fisherman
        -1
        4 December 2013 20: 25
        you invite everyone to sit in their places and work for the benefit of the oligarchy


        What oligarch do you work for?
  77. +3
    4 December 2013 19: 22
    My wife was writing a PhD in medicine. The age group of those studied was 14-16 years old. I somehow spied... In the sports column, everyone has a dash. In the chronic diseases column, out of 10 people, 7 have chronic diseases.

    I don’t know what course we are taking, if you read the national security strategy of the Russian Federation until 2020, then our goals and those of our commanders are good... but when I go out into the street, I remember the saying: Judge people by their actions...
    1. 0
      4 December 2013 20: 05
      Quote: Savva30
      read the Russian National Security Strategy

      More correct - Public safety concept.
      Do you want everything to change in two weeks (the COB was announced on November 20.11.2013, XNUMX)?

      Concept:
      1. A system of interconnected and resulting from one another views on certain phenomena.
      2. The general idea, the main idea of ​​something.


      Based on the concept, an ideology is built to promote the intended plans to the masses, legislation is changed, incl. and the constitution. This is not a matter of two weeks...
    2. fisherman
      -1
      4 December 2013 20: 29
      Judge people by their actions...


      rightly

      One thing is not clear: what people are you talking about, and what actions did you mean?
  78. 0
    4 December 2013 19: 23
    THE AUTHOR IS A FIVE WITH A PLUS, AND OURS WITH A BRUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P INDOES AND ALL ALL sorts of .....ISTISTS AND...ASTS, ONLY THEY ARE SLEEPING AND SEEING HOW TO ERADICATE US AND TAKE OUR EARTH WITH ITS RICHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  79. FormerMariman
    0
    4 December 2013 20: 29
    All forums are reduced to one thing: “sorting out the relationship between forum members”! It's a pity that this site is no exception!
    1. wanderer_032
      0
      4 December 2013 21: 25
      In a dispute, truth is born, dear.
      The people are tired of the Chetlans and do not want to make Etsilop three times in the near future, and for our seas to be processed for fuel.
      That's it, dear.
  80. +1
    4 December 2013 20: 36
    [quote=spirit]If the KGB overlooked Gorbaty with all his trips abroad with his wife and rapid career growth, then I’m already silent about these days. clean not clean!!, anyway, someone will come up. After the liquidation of Lavrenty Palych, everyone there suddenly relaxed.[/quote
    did you look at it or did someone have to?
  81. +2
    4 December 2013 21: 16
    Are there really any doubters about such a program? First off, questions:
    What are they feeding us today? Do they drink? Are they treating? And who does it? Where do supplies come from?
    Yes, we are definitely being destroyed. Methodically and purposefully.
    It is a fact. And there are many examples of this. This is a tragedy for the entire Russian people, which few people are concerned about...
    I can't give the facts. Site format. And there are countless of them.
    1. Yarosvet
      +1
      4 December 2013 22: 50
      Quote: Samsebenum
      What are they feeding us today? Do they drink? Are they treating? And who does it? Where do supplies come from?

      The question is who allows...
      1. Fortnite
        0
        6 December 2013 18: 51
        Alas! Displaying a “poster” with grammatical errors for public viewing is bad manners. Not comme il faut, so to speak... Was there really no editor at hand? lol
  82. EdwardTich68
    +2
    4 December 2013 21: 35
    I have my own point of view on demography. Our great-grandparents had 5-6 children, our grandparents
    3-4 children, our parents 1-2, we 1. This is connected primarily with the structure of the economy. In 1961 in the USSR, as a result of the development of industrial production, the urban population exceeded the rural population. The population of the country, no matter what it was called, was growing at the expense of the village. In rural areas it is easier to build or purchase housing for a growing family and women are not as emancipated as in the city. At the same time, the city gives individuals more chances for self-realization, as a result the population flowed to the cities. Now Russians live in cities where it is much more difficult to find funds for expanding housing with an increase in offspring. In rural areas, approximately 15% of the population remains, mainly old people and pensioners returning from cities. At the same time, observing the numerical growth of Muslim regions, many do not notice the main thing: all Muslim regions are predominantly rural. It is in the revival of the village, where children are just a necessity - like helpers and not an expensive toy like in the city and
    Demographics will begin to change for the better. This requires enormous support from Mr. By the way
    Russia is not alone in its trouble, all industrialized countries, including Japan and the United States, have similar, if not worse, problems, their population is increasing (which is extremely rare) due to migrants from
    underdeveloped countries with a rural population. And politics has nothing to do with it, economics has everything to do with it.
  83. Megre
    -1
    4 December 2013 21: 41
    About the alternative.
    1. cenych
      0
      4 December 2013 23: 24
      So what, all of YOU will sit in the president’s chair? There is only one chair, but there are many YOU, so choose the most worthy one, then we’ll talk.
      1. wanderer_032
        +1
        6 December 2013 18: 10
        And if you do nothing, then soon there will be no one to choose from.
  84. +2
    4 December 2013 22: 21
    Quote: Vadivak
    And I do not want to be a "true Aryan", after that, as a rule, loyalty to some Fuhrer or party follows.

    Aryans are not Aryans. The fact that Hitler perverted does not mean that you need to reject your ancestors.
    1. +1
      10 December 2013 12: 32
      what are arias?
      1. Beck
        0
        10 December 2013 13: 25
        Quote: ser86
        what are arias?


        If serious.

        3,5-4 thousand years BC, the core of the Indo-European community, located in its ancestral homeland, central Europe, began to fragment with the capture of parts of Eastern and Southern Europe.

        Iranian-speaking Indo-European tribes - the Aryans - moved to the east. They settled as far as the Volga. 3 thousand years ago BC, part of these Iranian-speaking tribes began to settle in the vast territory beyond the Volga. This is modern Kazakhstan, Central Asia, Southern Siberia to the Yenisei. The remainder became the ancestors of the Scythians and related tribes. Having passed through Central Asia, the Aryans split into two streams. One stream went to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Northern India and, having assimilated with the local Dravidian tribes, is now called Indians. Their ancient language is Sanskrit, related to European languages. That is why when linguists in the 19th century studied Sanskrit, they gave science the definition of Indo-Hebrew peoples and Indo-European languages. Another stream, having passed through Central Asia, turned west to the Iranian plateau. He mixed with local Semitic tribes and gave rise to such people as the Persians, modern Iranians. And again, linguists studying the Iranian language came to the conclusion that it is of European origin and gave the entire group of related languages ​​the name - Iranian-speaking languages ​​of the Indo-European group.

        The Iranian-speaking tribes that remained beyond the Volga, in Kazakhstan, Central Asia, and Southern Siberia (Sakas, Hephthalites, Sarmatians, Habomai, Massagetae and many others) were eventually assimilated by the Turks. In the 1st century, part of the Turkic-speaking Huns, from their ancestral homeland of the steppes of present-day Mongolia, moved to Xinjiang and Southeast Kazakhstan where they assimilated the Iranian-speaking Indo-Europeans - the Aryans. Before that, they assimilated the Aryans of the Yenisei. In the 2nd century, another part of the Huns moved to Northern Kazakhstan, the Volga region, and the Urals, where they assimilated other Aryans. In the 4th century, part of this crossbreed, under the Europeanized name Huns, began to destroy Europe. The Aryans who remained in Central Asia were assimilated by the Turks of the Turkic Kaganate in the 6th century.

        In modern Turkic languages, about 25% of words are of Iranian origin, but not of modern Iranians, but of those Iranian-speaking Indo-European tribes - the Aryans, who once inhabited vast territories beyond the Volga. And of course there was blood.

        With little erudition, Hitler, hearing the ringing, but not knowing where it came from, classified only Germanic tribes as Aryans and created his own racist theory.

        In general terms, something like this.
  85. moskal68
    0
    4 December 2013 22: 36
    Quote: vadutc
    Quote: 68
    I have always wondered why a book in a store costs on average 250 rubles, and a bottle of vodka costs 70? Not a conspiracy theorist, but it's a fact.


    Well, I can just add, why do they advertise shampoo and McDonald's, but don't advertise books?
    Well, what kind of Dontsova are they advertising? There are all sorts of bubblegum, like, Blind against the cops and similar nonsense. Here they are advertised.
  86. sasska
    +1
    5 December 2013 02: 05
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: Peaceful military
    I remember Soviet times, decent books cost less than a bottle of vodka.

    But at the same time, there was a problem of shortage of decent literature. It was possible to purchase the same Pikul or Dumas only with coupons (issued after handing over a certain amount of paper), or by exchanging for something of equal value at book “piles”.


    Yes it was. I carried the waste paper myself to the collection point. for 20 kg of waste paper a coupon was given for the purchase of a Book.

    PS: it was easier to buy vodka (Andrey, don’t blame me - I collected a good library then.)
    1. Peaceful military
      +1
      5 December 2013 03: 36
      Quote: sasska
      Quote: Tersky
      Quote: Peaceful military
      I remember Soviet times, decent books cost less than a bottle of vodka.

      But at the same time, there was a problem of shortage of decent literature. It was possible to purchase the same Pikul or Dumas only with coupons (issued after handing over a certain amount of paper), or by exchanging for something of equal value at book “piles”.

      Yes it was. I carried the waste paper myself to the collection point. for 20 kg of waste paper a coupon was given for the purchase of a Book.
      PS: it was easier to buy vodka (Andrey, don’t blame me - I collected a good library then.)

      Hi Sasha!
      I mean the same thing! This is respected Tersky, something got twisted. soldier
  87. +6
    5 December 2013 19: 49
    there is an opinion that history itself brings Russia the right person at a time when it is standing on the edge of an abyss.
    IT TURNS OUT THAT HISTORY ITSELF IS AGAINST RUSSIA, IF IT HAS GIVEN IT SURPRISES SUCH AS GORBACHEV AND YELTSIN
  88. 0
    5 December 2013 21: 10
    A very correct, timely and impeccably maintained article.

    In some places there is a fairy tale, but there is a hint in it, otherwise some people began to forget what their ancestors fought for.
  89. 0
    7 December 2013 15: 22
    The article is correct, about the plan for the destruction of the Motherland, everything is clearly described. Only statements and criticism have never led to any rise in the country. There is a party that has set itself the goal of doing this - clearly and directly. Look for her and help. Don't cry.
  90. EdwardTich68
    +1
    7 December 2013 19: 25
    They hang red flags on themselves, but this is a mistake, everyone should speak on their own behalf. smile
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  92. Apologet insane
    +2
    8 December 2013 09: 10
    The most important victory of the world behind the scenes is the reduction in the intelligence of the population of the world and Russia in particular to such a level that people believe in nonsense like this article. Congratulations.
  93. 0
    10 December 2013 12: 30
    The masters of Western civilization - the so-called. “financial international”, “world behind the scenes”, the union of the old aristocratic families of the Old World and usurious clans are creating a new world order on the planet.

    the Jews are to blame for everything; they should give money just like that - for beautiful eyes; you can’t take interest on borrowed money; that’s what the Jews do; the whole world economy of the past and the future is built on this, it doesn’t matter))
  94. 0
    11 December 2013 01: 32
    Quote: Beck
    it was central Europe, with the capture of parts of Eastern and Southern Europe, that began to fragment.

    Iranian-speaking Indo-European tribes - the Aryans - moved to the east.

    this is already strange for me
    Iranian tribes are coming from Europe to Iran..
  95. Beck
    0
    11 December 2013 10: 00
    Quote: ser86
    this is already strange for me
    Iranian tribes are coming from Europe to Iran..


    And this is natural, which is strange for many, because many of us were brought up in the spirit that Asia is a dense slumber.

    The Iranian-speaking Aryan tribes of the Indo-European group were fair-haired and blue-eyed, gray-eyed. Archaeologists have excavated hundreds of their settlements and burials in the territories of the Trans-Urals, Trans-Volga region, Kazakhstan, Southern Siberia, Central Asia, Afghanistan, the Swat Valley in Pakistan, and one of them is Arkaim. Which Fomenkovites for some reason correlate in a straight line only with Russians. And in all these Aryan burials it is Indo-Europeans. And assimilation occurred gradually. And that is why among the Turks of Kazakhstan there are often red-haired and gray-eyed people, and that is why the founder of Buddhism, Buddha, 500 years BC was still fair-haired and gray-eyed.

    And the Iranian-speaking Aryans are, of course, very different from today’s Iranians. Modern Iranians are a cross between ancient Aryans and Semites, but their language remains Indo-European. Just like the Indian language.

    What does all this mean? Only that there are no pure peoples on Earth, we are all Humans and have long been obsessed with blood. Only without knowing history can you become a nationalist and racist.

    And the word Aria sounded differently - and Ari, and Aria, and Iri, and Ir. Hence Iran.
  96. 0
    11 February 2020 07: 45
    The most important destroyer of the Russian people is our STATE!!! And every nation has the government it deserves.
  97. 0
    April 5 2022 09: 04
    We need 1937, Steel has already purged the enemies of the state and VV Putin needs to do this

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"