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For the first time in the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan Region, she took up the test-combat duty of the radar over-the-horizon detection "Container"

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For the first time in the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan Region, she took up the test-combat duty of the radar over-the-horizon detection "Container"

Today in the Republic of Mordovia for the first time the radar station of over-the-horizon detection (container radar ZGO) “Container” of a new generation of reconnaissance and warning system for aerospace attack launched the test-combat duty.


This is the first in the composition of the command of the air defense and missile defense (ADE-PRO) of the Aerospace Defense Forces (WKO) Radar ZGO, designed to detect and determine the coordinates of various air targets at a distance of more than 3 thousand km.

The radar ZGO “Container” is one of the means of the reconnaissance and warning system for an aerospace attack. The station’s capabilities make it possible to monitor the air situation in the zone of responsibility, to reveal the nature of combat operations aviation the enemy and warn of an air attack.

The ceremonial ritual of interception on experimental combat duty of the radar ZGO "Container" was held under the leadership of the commander of the air defense and missile defense forces of the EKR Major General Andrei Demin.
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  1. Airman
    Airman 3 December 2013 09: 21
    15
    This is good news. Over-the-horizon radars are best (based on the theory of propagation of radio waves) put on the coast. It is interesting in which direction it is oriented, because Mordovia is almost in the center.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 December 2013 09: 30
      10
      More photos on a given topic.
    2. Andrey57
      Andrey57 3 December 2013 09: 35
      +8
      The first over-the-horizon radar in the USSR was located near Chernobyl, in Ukraine, and the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was built there, not least from the calculation of providing the radar with energy, the then radar "ate" energy in very impressive quantities.
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      2. studentmati
        studentmati 4 December 2013 00: 30
        0
        Quote: Andrey57
        the then radar "ate" energy in very impressive quantities.

        At the same time, the nuclear power plant was covering. It was good to everyone.
      3. SPACE
        SPACE 4 December 2013 03: 32
        +2
        At half the power of the Arc in the USA, strange phenomena were observed, static electricity, atmospheric discharges, people were in pain, the US leadership was even forced to informally appeal to the USSR leadership with a request to reduce the radiation power. Therefore, the Arc was never used at full capacity. What would happen when the "Brain Burner" is running at full capacity is anyone's guess! Who knows, maybe the explosion of the reactor at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is not at all accidental and the main purpose of the sabotage was precisely the Duga ...?!
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    3. fisherman
      fisherman 3 December 2013 09: 36
      +4
      I wonder in which direction it is oriented,


      I can only guess

      since we and "our strategic partners" disagree about the direction of real threats, then, most likely, to the north and northwest :)

      but at the expense of "almost in the center", so the depth is 3000 - 3500 km, and ship tomahawks will be uncomfortable :)
      1. Airman
        Airman 3 December 2013 09: 52
        +3
        Quote: fisherman


        I can only guess

        since we and "our strategic partners" disagree about the direction of real threats, then, most likely, to the north and northwest :)

        but at the expense of "almost in the center", so the depth is 3000 - 3500 km, and ship tomahawks will be uncomfortable :)

        Yesterday he laughed at Kaptsov in an article about Tomahawks. He placed over-the-horizon radar in the states on balloons, having no idea about the size of the antenna system.
        1. fisherman
          fisherman 3 December 2013 10: 04
          +2
          it is possible that Oleg simply foresees the future, a very distant future :)
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 4 December 2013 03: 48
            0
            Somewhere on the Internet I found information about the possibility of installing the ZGRLS radar on the ships of the Orlan project, on the sides of the vessel. But Oleg questioned this idea, arguing that this is not possible and just because of the dimensions of the antenna.
    4. Edward
      Edward 3 December 2013 09: 56
      +2
      it is logical to assume, based on the station’s operating distance, that almost all of Europe is covered in the western direction, including part of the Mediterranean, Turkey is from the south, possibly Syria is covered, as well as partially Iran, Afghanistan.
      but it is more likely that the main goal is Europe, where they want to build anti-Russian missile defense facilities
    5. AVV
      AVV 3 December 2013 14: 05
      +2
      The ice has broken !!! We are waiting for great news on similar topics !!!
  2. Andrey57
    Andrey57 3 December 2013 09: 31
    +5
    Finally, we compensated for radars of this type near Chernobyl, very wonderful! hi
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 3 December 2013 09: 43
      10
      Quote: Andrey57
      Finally, we compensated for radars of this type near Chernobyl, very wonderful! hi

      And then the radar near Chernobyl? The arc is a missile attack early warning radar. It only allowed to record the fact of the launch of missiles at a range of up to 10000 km. Now this task is performed by satellites. By the way, in the photo in the article - this is not the Container, but the ZGRLS Wave is still Soviet-built
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 3 December 2013 09: 39
    +3
    I look for air defense, aerospace defense undertook thoroughly! It seems that resources are sent there first of all ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 December 2013 09: 52
      15
      Quote: retired
      I look for air defense, aerospace defense undertook thoroughly!

      Yes, no, what are you talking about. Nothing is being done in the country for defense, but the country itself is being destroyed laughing
      That is why those who squeak, that the mustache is gone, do not get into such topics in the country of the khan?
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 3 December 2013 09: 56
        10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        That is why those who squeak, that the mustache is gone, do not get into such topics in the country of the khan?

        There are people on this military site whose only task is to criticize Putin, accompanied by some idiotic pictures.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 December 2013 10: 05
          +4
          Quote: Onyx
          whose only task is to criticize Putin, accompanied by some idiotic pictures.

          CJSC - Yarosvet and company laughing
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 3 December 2013 10: 16
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        That is why those who squeak, that the mustache is gone, do not get into such topics in the country of the khan?

        Or maybe they have already died? whatWell, in the sense that HANAam and got to them crying .
      3. Heccrbq.3
        Heccrbq.3 3 December 2013 14: 53
        -1
        And why are they "squeaking"? Judging by your nickname, you should be in the ward with Napoleon laughing
  4. Takashi
    Takashi 3 December 2013 09: 43
    0
    weird. ZGRS near Chernobyl and Komsomolsk showed their full inefficiency at a distance of more than 3000 km.
    What for us still it?
    Isn’t it easier to build - Dnieper \ Daryaly \ Voronezh?
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 3 December 2013 09: 49
      +3
      Quote: Takashi
      weird. ZGRS near Chernobyl and Komsomolsk showed their full inefficiency at a distance of more than 3000 km.
      What for us still it?
      Isn’t it easier to build - Dnieper \ Daryaly \ Voronezh?

      It is possible to build Voronezh, but for those tasks that are assigned to the Container they are not suitable, because Voronezh is an over-the-horizon radar for an early warning system, and the Container is an over-the-horizon radar, it allows you to track enemy aircraft even at an airfield at a distance of about 3000 km, cruise missiles, including including low-flying ones, etc. The container will be used to create a continuous radar field INSIDE the country, first of all, and Voronezh is located near the borders and they "look" out
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 3 December 2013 10: 02
        0
        Quote: Onyx
        onteiner - beyond the horizon, allows you to track enemy aircraft even at the airport at a distance of about 3000 km
        Interesting: what falls under the radius of 3000 km. from where the "Container" stands? Tell who knows, otherwise
        too lazy to get the globe ... And I won’t find the compasses anymore ...
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 3 December 2013 14: 26
          +1
          Within a radius of 3000 km falls London, Sardinia, Cairo, Iraq, Kabul, part of northern China.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 3 December 2013 16: 57
            0
            Quote: Tektor
            Within a radius of 3000 km falls London, Sardinia, Cairo, Iraq, Kabul, part of northern China.

            hi hi
      2. Airman
        Airman 3 December 2013 10: 21
        0
        Quote: Onyx
        and the Container is over-the-horizon, allows tracking enemy aircraft even at an airfield at a distance of about 3000 km, cruise missiles, including low-flying ones, etc. The container will be used to create a continuous radar field INSIDE the country, first of all, and Voronezh is located near the borders and they "look" out

        I doubt it is possible to track planes at the airfield at a distance of up to 3000 km. At the surface of the earth, there is a lot of dissipation and absorption of EM energy. Above the water surface the EM wave seems to "stick", scattering and absorption are minimal, and therefore it is possible to detect ships on the water, and aircraft at low altitudes. This is theory. In practice, the radar did not work on the ZG.
        1. Onyx
          Onyx 3 December 2013 10: 45
          +5
          Quote: Povshnik
          Track planes at the airport at a range of up to 3000 km - I doubt it

          This information was taken by me from the words of the gene. designer of the container developer Sergey Saprykin: "This is a new generation of over-the-horizon stations. Such radars detect any aircraft, everything that moves, starting from acceleration along the runway and further throughout the airspace at the distance of the first over-the-horizon jump at a distance of up to 3000 kilometers."
          According to him, Saprykin, the capabilities of the "Container" radar make it possible to track even small aircraft. “I myself, sitting in the receiving position of such a station in Mordovia, watched how Dutch pilots were learning to fly on small sports planes”
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 3 December 2013 11: 09
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            Quote: Onyx
            This information was taken by me from the words of the gene. Sergey Saprykin, the designer of the container developer

            I want to believe that new stations with new software and software provide this.

            Earlier, my colleague, a specialist in early warning radar, spoke ironically about Zg radar.
            As I remember the problems:
            -unstability of receiving signals
            -weak noise immunity.
            But, then the hardware and computing capabilities did not allow.
            If anyone in the subject, share ...
            1. Airman
              Airman 3 December 2013 13: 15
              +2
              Quote: Rus2012
              Quote: Onyx
              This information was taken by me from the words of the gene. Sergey Saprykin, the designer of the container developer

              I want to believe that new stations with new software and software provide this.

              Earlier, my colleague, a specialist in early warning radar, spoke ironically about Zg radar.
              As I remember the problems:
              -unstability of receiving signals
              -weak noise immunity.
              But, then the hardware and computing capabilities did not allow.
              If anyone in the subject, share ...

              I don’t know how on this radar, but the stability and range of target detection depends on the state of the ionosphere, and it changes. And while we can’t stabilize the ionosphere. It is possible to amend the state of the ionosphere, but it must be monitored.
          2. Airman
            Airman 3 December 2013 13: 05
            +1
            Quote: Onyx
            Quote: Povshnik
            Track planes at the airport at a range of up to 3000 km - I doubt it

            This information was taken by me from the words of the gene. designer of the container developer Sergey Saprykin: "This is a new generation of over-the-horizon stations. Such radars detect any aircraft, everything that moves, starting from acceleration along the runway and further throughout the airspace at the distance of the first over-the-horizon jump at a distance of up to 3000 kilometers."
            According to him, Saprykin, the capabilities of the "Container" radar make it possible to track even small aircraft. “I myself, sitting in the receiving position of such a station in Mordovia, watched how Dutch pilots were learning to fly on small sports planes”

            This means that the entire locator screen will be "packed" with marks from trucks. They also move. It is clear that digital signal processing is underway, therefore, it was accepted for trial operation.
  5. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 3 December 2013 09: 50
    +4
    A keen eye is on guard of the homeland, the right thing.
  6. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 December 2013 09: 59
    +5
    If from this point of detection they begin to produce the results of real flights of Europeans, here the "partners" will screech! "The rights of honest citizens are being violated!" "I'm flying wherever I want", "The Russians are going to shoot everyone down!"
    So they need with their American missile defense! Aware, then armed!
  7. Flinky
    Flinky 3 December 2013 09: 59
    +2
    Great news.
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 3 December 2013 10: 05
    +2
    So the war is not a hunt, but it would not hurt to give any jerking and unjust freaks in the cabbage soup.
  9. Corporal
    Corporal 3 December 2013 10: 16
    +1
    Maybe someone will explain to me, I served in the air defense, quit in 94, and then we already had over-the-horizon radars, R-14, I think. What is the container "for the first time" and "finally" in?
    1. Airman
      Airman 3 December 2013 10: 31
      +1
      Quote: Efreytor
      Maybe someone will explain to me, I served in the air defense, quit in 94, and then we already had over-the-horizon radars, R-14, I think. What is the container "for the first time" and "finally" in?

      I think you are talking about the P-14 radar with a detection range of up to 600 km at high altitudes. This is not an over-the-horizon radar.
      1. Corporal
        Corporal 3 December 2013 20: 54
        +2
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Горизонт

        The distance to the horizon for a standing person is only 5 km, for an airplane 357 km, so that 600 km is quite beyond the horizon, about which the officers hummed our ears about us
  10. ImPerts
    ImPerts 3 December 2013 10: 44
    +3
    Quote: Onyx
    I look for air defense, aerospace defense undertook thoroughly! It seems that resources are sent there first of all ...

    This makes me happy. I hope schools and academies will be restored.
  11. Russ69
    Russ69 3 December 2013 11: 24
    +3
    Quote: ImPerts
    This makes me happy. I hope schools and academies will be restored.

    Tver Academy of Air Defense, it feels quite normal now. In the year 14, she was given additional funding.
  12. sub307
    sub307 3 December 2013 11: 30
    +2
    The right "contraption". "He who is forewarned is armed."
  13. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 3 December 2013 11: 39
    +1
    The new over-the-horizon radar will be perfectly combined with the Voronezh high-availability early warning radar.
    This means that in fact the strategic requirements for creating a continuous radar field in Russia in different ranges of heights and frequencies are being met.
  14. Ustian
    Ustian 3 December 2013 12: 25
    +2
    Maybe (in addition to the sounded) "Russian Woodpecker" of the Nth generation ??? winkThat is to say, as opposed to "haarpu" + performing other tasks. Our Designers have always been distinguished by their ingenuity ... yes
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 3 December 2013 12: 50
      0
      Quote: Ustian
      "Russian Woodpecker"

      This is the new generation ...
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 December 2013 13: 13
    +2
    It is not clear why some ---- alarmed? Everything is very simple: our leadership has finally opened its eyes to the problems of air defense / aerospace defense and this is good, and no need to lament, everything is going in the right direction! Real steps are not to our liking some of our "partners", but how can we carry out a "preventive" strike on Russia, so a wave of stench has risen!
  16. eagle11
    eagle11 3 December 2013 13: 21
    +1
    This station looks west, northwest. She does not see above her territory, this is the territory of the leap. In the minuses, a large measurement error, depending on the state of the Earth’s atmosphere.
  17. VADEL
    VADEL 3 December 2013 13: 54
    0
    Quote: eagle11
    This station faces west, northwest

    And what gets into the "field of vision"? One Poland or even the Vikings with the Ottoman Empire to see?
  18. Leshka
    Leshka 3 December 2013 15: 46
    +2
    Tremble enemies am
  19. Slotxnumx
    Slotxnumx 3 December 2013 18: 43
    +2
    Russian woodpecker! good
  20. studentmati
    studentmati 4 December 2013 00: 34
    0
    Today in the Republic of Mordovia for the first time the radar station of over-the-horizon detection (container radar ZGO) “Container” of a new generation of reconnaissance and warning system for aerospace attack launched the test-combat duty.

    Judging by the photos presented, the issue price has decreased significantly!
    1. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 4 December 2013 17: 18
      0
      Quote: studentmati
      Today in the Republic of Mordovia for the first time the radar station of over-the-horizon detection (container radar ZGO) “Container” of a new generation of reconnaissance and warning system for aerospace attack launched the test-combat duty.

      Judging by the photos presented, the issue price has decreased significantly!

      Do you judge by the volume of welded fittings and the amount of paint used?
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  22. kelevra
    kelevra 18 December 2013 23: 02
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    Very pleased with the range of work!