Russian tsars: view from the West. Part of 1: Stalin

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“However” opens the special project “Russian Tsars: View from the West”. This topic is interesting primarily because Russian leaders have always been the embodiment of their country for the Western elite and the townsfolk. And in relation to the “king” figure, one can judge which image of Russia was in demand in the West at one time or another.

It should be noted that most of the portraits in our gallery are “holographic pictures”. After all, when it was beneficial for Western politicians to conclude a tactical alliance with Moscow, the king was portrayed as a wise ruler capable of pragmatic deals, when the need for an alliance with the Russians fell away, the picture was shown from a different angle - traditional Russophobic stereotypes were reborn, and the king turned into a "cunning Byzantine" , an unpredictable despot or a mindless comedian.

If we talk about the current epoch, the image of Putin, like the image of his predecessors, in the West is constantly transforming depending on the foreign policy conjuncture. (However, in the Medvedev period, the existence of a tandem facilitated the task: the portrait of one leader was served in light, the second - in dark colors). In most cases, however, Western portrait painters operated with exactly “holographic pictures”, occasionally turning them with the right side: “wolf - hare”, “hare - wolf”, as in Soviet stickers based on “Well, wait a minute”.

“Holographic” is somewhat different kind, when the Russian tsar (and, consequently, our country) is viewed by researchers from different eras. It is easy to see that contemporaries evaluate people and events in the system of values ​​and concepts of “time of action”, and historians of later periods unobtrusively approach the past with the criteria of the future - when out of good motives, and when out of all the same applied ones.

By the way, we should remember about such a “holographic feature” when, for some internal political considerations, Russian adherents of various ideologies trump these or those quotes that characterize “objective Western evaluations”.

In our special project, we just want to consider how the “holographic portrait” of this or that Russian tsar plays with various colors depending on times and circumstances.

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Perhaps the most striking example of such a holographic technique is the image of Joseph Stalin, who, of course, is the most ambitious figure in the Russian stories XX century. In the West, he appeared then ruthless "Kremlin Highlander", then turned into a good mustache "Uncle Joe." True, after Stalin’s death, the Western elite began to actively gloss over his portrait with black paint, hoping to preserve the image of a “bloody tyrant” and “paranoid” in history. Indeed, as one of the most shrewd American political scientists Zbigniew Brzezinski taught, “in order to bring down the ideological support of Russia, Stalin must be equated to Hitler”.

It is no coincidence that today, arguing about the personality of Stalin, Western historians do not stint on epithets. “In his cruelty the Soviet dictator did not yield to Hitler,” wrote the author of the book “Stalin: the court of the red king” Simon Montefiore. “Former seminarian was no stranger to religious fanaticism, and his instructions to the executioners are reminiscent of the times of the Holy Inquisition.”

"A wise leader who raised Russia from its knees"

However, in the middle of the 30 for many in the West, the Soviet leader was neither a fanatic nor an inquisitor. On the contrary, he was perceived as a pragmatic prudent politician who overcame the chaos that occurred in Russia after the civil war and managed to build a powerful nationally-oriented state.

“After the horrors of the revolution,” said Konstantin Melnik-Botkin, head of the French special services under De Gaulle, “a positive period began in Russia that is associated with the name of Joseph Stalin, who raised the country from its knees.”

In the 1936 year, after the trial of the Zinoviev and Kamenev bloc was completed in Moscow, an article by Winston Churchill appeared in the London Times, stating that the Soviet Union had finally become a country with which to deal.

For the West, the defeat of the left globalists, who dreamed of a world revolution, was of great importance. Many anticipated Stalin's turn from communist utopias to traditional imperial politics. “And when the imperial paraphernalia appeared, the West reacted positively to it,” says a former official of the SVR, Mikhail Lyubimov, “for the Western powers, the Comintern paraphernalia was much more dangerous: the world revolution, we will inflate the world fire on all bourgeois.” They were afraid of this, and it was quite possible to conduct a dialogue with Russia, the reviving traditions of the tsarist times. ”

Understanding in the West reacted to the struggle of Stalin with the party nomenclature. In contrast to the racial purges organized by the Nazis, Stalin’s repressions, according to Western contemporaries, were fully justified: the stagnant party apparatus interfered with the accelerated development of the country. Some experts even argued that the events of 1937 of the year were explained by the rebellion of the bureaucracy against the attempt of democratization carried out by the Soviet leader, and they praised the Stalinist Constitution.

As for the victims, it was believed that Stalin simply had no choice. Just as, for example, there was no choice for Churchill, who during the Second World War gave the order to drown the French fleet in Oranta so that Germany would not get it. Politicians who lived in the era of world wars were convinced that if it was in the interests of the state, the most stringent methods could be applied.

Practically no one in the West doubted the veracity of the accusations made in the Moscow trials. “When the trial of the right-wing terrorist bloc was underway,” Russian historian Roy Medvedev says, “However,” Roosevelt sent his special representative, Joseph Davis, to Moscow. And Davis was present at this trial and reported to the president that the defendants are in fact enemies of the people who wanted to form an alliance with Hitler. ”

Davis's book Mission to Moscow was a real apology for Stalin. “Lawsuits,” wrote Davis, “allowed the Soviet government to defend its power not only from an internal upheaval, but also from an outside attack. The purge put things in order in the country and freed her from treason. ”

The same opinion was shared by the German writer Lion Feuchtwanger, who visited Moscow in 1937 year. “They were state criminals,” he wrote, “and all my doubts were dissolved, like salt in water, under the influence of direct impressions of what the defendants said and how they said it.” Stalin Feuchtwanger described as "the great organizer, the great mathematician and psychologist."

On the side of the Soviet leader were European leftist intellectuals, especially the Communists. Their accolades for him were not inferior to the best examples of Soviet propaganda. Louis Aragon called him "a wise and great leader," HG Wells assured that he had never met a more sincere, decent and honest person. And Bernard Shaw, who visited Moscow back in the 1931 year, argued that "Stalin is a giant, and all Western leaders are pygmies."

"Pragmatic and very necessary ally"

Stalin became a villain for Europe and the United States only in the 1939 year (and then only for a short time) when he concluded a non-aggression pact with Germany - and thereby made radical adjustments to the scenario of world war advantageous for the West. Political cartoons appeared in the newspapers, in which the theme of “rapprochement between two European dictators” was played up. The Washington Star, for example, published a cartoon depicting the wedding of Stalin and Hitler. The elegant bridegroom Adolf leads the black-sided bride of Joseph to the altar. The wedding cake is decorated with sickles, hammers and swastikas. “I wonder how long the honeymoon will last?” The author asks maliciously.

Meanwhile, it is well known that throughout the 30s, the Western allies themselves actively flirted with Hitler, the leading concerns willingly carried out German military orders, and in 1938, Paris and London went to the Munich Agreement with the Nazi regime.

After Germany attacked the USSR and began negotiations on the creation of an anti-Hitler coalition, attitudes towards Stalin changed overnight. From the dictator and friend of Hitler, he became a close ally, mustache uncle Joe. “When the British give diminutive nicknames,” said Viktor Sukhodrev, a personal translator of Khrushchev and Brezhnev, in an interview with “However,” this indicates special respect. For example, they tenderly called Winnie Churchill Winnie the war leader. ”

A mustache, a pipe, a tightly-fastened tunic ... On the one hand, Stalin was a mysterious giant for the West, embodying the will of the people, who with unimaginable losses, but nevertheless emerged victorious in world war. On the other hand, Western leaders saw him as a pragmatist who, unlike Hitler, never made decisions under the influence of emotions and considered the situation a few moves ahead. They could speak with the Soviet leader in the same language, negotiate with him about spheres of influence and discuss the post-war world pattern.

“Stalin had enormous authority, and not only in Russia. He knew how to “tame” his enemies, not to panic when losing, and not to enjoy victories, ”General de Gaulle wrote about him.

Austrian political scientist Joseph Schumpeter, in his book Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy, published in 1945, insisted that there is no leader in the modern world who is equal to Stalin in intellect.

In 1943, the American Time magazine called Stalin the man of the year, giving him an extremely flattering testimony: “This son of a shoemaker and a laundress is a real nugget. He has outstanding intellectual abilities. He quotes whole paragraphs from the Bible and the writings of Bismarck, reads Plato in the original, writes his own speeches and articles. Moreover, its style is simultaneously distinguished by clarity and sophistication. ”

Such an ode to a Soviet leader in an American magazine now seems to be something of a fantasy. However, one should not forget about the special relations that have developed between Stalin and US President Franklin Roosevelt. During the “Big Three” meetings, Roosevelt constantly sought ways to meet Stalin alone, forcing Churchill to feel like a third person.

“Stalin made an indelible impression just by his presence at the meetings of the“ Big Three ”,” Sukhodrev says, “something about him was so hypnotic. He charmed the people around him like a cobra mesmerizing the mouse. ”

According to a number of historians, Stalin skillfully played on the contradictions of the Anglo-Saxons and, if it were not for Roosevelt's death, perhaps the story would have turned differently. At least in April 1945, the American president planned to make a landmark speech about relations with the USSR and once again emphasize the role of the Soviet generalissimo in the Allied victory.

It should be said that Churchill also gave Stalin his due. After the war, the British prime minister said that he was a great leader who accepted Russia with a plow and left with an atomic bomb.

At first, the Soviet leader made a positive impression on the successor of Roosevelt Harry Truman. “I like Stalin,” he wrote in his diary after the first meeting with the leader of the Soviet Union in Potsdam. “He’s straight but damn smart.” He knows what he wants and is ready to compromise when he cannot get what he wants. ”

"New Genghis Khan"

However, it soon became apparent that the Anglo-Saxons needed the Eastern ally only to crush Germany, and they could not find a place for him in the new picture of the world. It was no accident that the US naval minister, James Forrestal, declared that America now puts an equal sign between Hitlerism, Japanese militarism and Stalinism, and called for a preventive war against the Soviets, "which should be started before they can recover the war-torn economy."

And 5 March 1946, at Westminster College in Fulton, USA, Churchill, who left the premiership, delivered his famous speech that marked the beginning of the Cold War: “From Stettin on the Baltic to Trieste on the Adriatic, the iron curtain was lowered across the continent” - Churchill proclaimed and blamed the USSR.

The image of Stalin in the West has changed radically. The smiling uncle Joe turned into a new Genghis Khan, who terrified American and European inhabitants. “Stalin is an indescribable Russian dictator,” proclaimed Truman. “And I also liked this little son of a bitch!”

Popularity became the parable-story of George Orwell's “Animal Farm,” in which Stalin appeared in the form of a pig named Napoleon, who perverted revolutionary principles and established a one-man totalitarian dictatorship.

"Not a thing of the past, but dissolved in the future"

And although it was this image of the Soviet leader that was now established in the West, historians sometimes recall the reverse side of the holographic portrait created by Stalin’s contemporaries. They note that the USSR had enjoyed the results of socialist modernization carried out in the Stalin era for a long time, and called Stalin a “personification of Soviet power”.

According to the University of London professor Jeffrey Hosking, “this Georgian ruler turned out to be the most successful Russian nationalist. And, despite the mass repressions, executions and the Gulag, in the epoch of his rule, the neo-Russian empire reached its apogee. ” Like Peter the Great, Western realist historians say, Stalin lifted Russia upside down, proving that genius and villainy are two things quite compatible.

“Stalin did not become a thing of the past, he disappeared into the future,” de Gaulle proclaimed at the time. And, apparently, the holographic portrait of the Soviet leader will in the West more than once turn at different angles.
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  1. +37
    3 December 2013 08: 19
    If we consider Stalin from the point of view of modern tolerant Europeans, then he is of course a bloody dictator. And if you look at it through the prism of the geopolitical situation prevailing in Europe at the end of the 20s, then he is a leader who managed to maintain the independence of the USSR. Collectivization? - All Europe has now come to such a method of agricultural production. In the USSR, this allowed a large number of people to be liberated for industrialization, without which the USSR could not have won the war under any circumstances. It is difficult to find a leader who would do more for Russia. His name is on a par with Peter the Great. Putin is far from Stalin.
    1. +6
      3 December 2013 10: 05
      Quote: Canep
      ... His name is on a par with Peter the Great ...
      One launched Europe into the bins of the Motherland, the other - covered this shop.

      Quote: Canep
      ... Putin is still far from Stalin ...
      Both Stalin and Putin are Bolsheviks, they are for the "happiness" of the majority.
    2. +9
      3 December 2013 10: 30
      Quote: Canep
      Putin is far from Stalin.

      Stalin also did not immediately become that Stalin who went down in history. So, Putin still has a chance. A little one, but there is. But for what has been done under Putin, one must also give him his due. Well, there’s also something to scold. But he is a worthy ruler. And surely he respects Stalin. Openly does not speak about it, but ... feel
      1. ozs
        ozs
        +2
        3 December 2013 22: 13
        Thank you, as I understand it, you need to continue for the monuments of ebn, stool, golikovyh, Fursenkov, Baltic states in NATO?
        1. -1
          3 December 2013 22: 34
          Quote: ozs
          Thank you, as I understand it, you need to continue for the monuments of ebn, stool, golikovyh, Fursenkov, Baltic states in NATO?

          Go on. I'll sleep for now ...
        2. Angry reader
          -1
          5 December 2013 14: 59
          The tsunami in Tailada and the chapel)) is he too?))
    3. Angry reader
      +12
      3 December 2013 13: 00
      Does anyone dare to dispute that the Name of Victory is IV Stalin? ..
      And it doesn’t matter at all that in the survey version, I.V. does not participate, it is important that we know this and we remember it.
      Humbly beg your pardon, for excessive confusion hi
      1. +5
        3 December 2013 14: 19
        Quote: Angry Reader
        Does anyone dare to dispute that the Name of Victory is IV Stalin ?.

        Their task is different, everything is the same - divide, bleed and conquer.
        Everyone won, from an ordinary to a generalissimo, from a snotty kid at a machine tool to a scientist in KB. Victory was shared.
        Choosing the winner from different historical eras is generally schizophrenia.
        1. Angry reader
          +1
          3 December 2013 17: 16
          ... The meaning of the hedgehog is understandable, much more worthy representatives are cut off from participation ..
          But without diminishing the merits of some, we will not forget about others.
          In my opinion I.V. this is our immediate past, I fully agree with you about the common victory of each and every one, but IV was the "contractual figure" of society, not forgetting, of course, Zhukov, Rokossovsky, etc. And this seems to me worth remembering. And with regards to Syvorov, Kutuzov, not to mention Apraksin, I'm afraid the young society of 16-20 years does not know so well.
        2. Angry reader
          0
          4 December 2013 23: 32
          No, the task is to distract society from hidden retouched, but suddenly re-emerging personalities of the past. Pull from IW to anyone only pull. Because no matter how they watered, they didn’t denigrate, but people either remember or understand.
    4. Dezzed
      -12
      3 December 2013 15: 37
      I understand that you yourself were not a participant in the triumph of collectivization?
      1. +11
        3 December 2013 16: 21
        My ancestors were participants in the triumph of collectivization. A fascist collectivization that would have been waiting for all of us if not for Soviet collectivization. And no one ached, even in retirement age.
        PySy And you are just a troll.
        1. Dezzed
          +2
          3 December 2013 20: 16
          "Forgot that the cavalry attacks, necessary and useful for solving
          tasks of a military nature, unsuitable and detrimental in solving collective farm tasks
          construction, organized in addition to the alliance with the middle peasant.
          This is the root of the mistakes in the peasant question. "

          J.V. Stalin. ("Answer to comrades collective farmers" v.12 p. 203.)
      2. +4
        3 December 2013 17: 06
        Quote: DezzeD
        I understand that you yourself were not a participant in the triumph of collectivization?

        If you have witnessed collectivization, then I am waiting for your testimonies; in 90% of cases, the unification of peasants into collective farms was calm.
        1. Dezzed
          -9
          3 December 2013 18: 49
          Quote: Canep
          in 90% of cases, the union of peasants into collective farms was calm.


          "Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933 (In Ukraine, officially [1] called the" Holodomor "[2] [3] [4] [5]) - a mass famine in the USSR on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, BSSR [4] [6] [5 ], The North Caucasus, the Volga region, the South Urals, Western Siberia, Kazakhstan, which has entailed significant human casualties (according to various estimates, from 2 to 8 million people). "
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Голод_в_СССР_(1932—1933)

          By that you mean "calm"?
          1. Yarosvet
            +11
            3 December 2013 19: 07
            Quote: DezzeD
            By that you mean "calm"?
            1. Dezzed
              -4
              3 December 2013 19: 33
              Comrade, when people die of hunger, this cannot be called "calm", no matter what language they die in, Russian or American.
              1. Yarosvet
                +2
                3 December 2013 20: 19
                Quote: DezzeD
                when people die of hunger

                Exactly - from hunger, not from collectivization.

                Remind me how many hungry years were from 1900 to 1917?
                1. Dezzed
                  -7
                  3 December 2013 20: 44
                  "Collectivization" is not a disease. symptoms of collectivization (e.g. hunger) can be fatal
                  1. Yarosvet
                    +2
                    3 December 2013 21: 17
                    Quote: DezzeD
                    "Collectivization" is not a disease. symptoms of collectivization (e.g. hunger) can be fatal

                    Quote: Yarosvet


                    Remind me how many hungry years were from 1900 to 1917?
              2. The comment was deleted.
              3. +1
                3 December 2013 20: 46
                Quote: DezzeD
                "Collectivization" is not a disease. symptoms of collectivization (e.g. hunger) can be fatal

                "Nefig on the mirror to take if the very face is crooked" proverb.
                Jewish fascism. The destruction of Jenin. Part 1.

                "Photo from the resource Palestinemonitor.org. This mother and her three children were doused with gasoline and burned alive. The photographer who took this picture had thousands of the same terrible pictures (10 gigabytes on the hard disk), but his disk" burned out ", and all captured the history of his crimes was irretrievably lost to him. I have only a few pictures of him. "

                More:
                http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sostavlyayuschih-jizni-obschestva/zd
                orove-cheloveka-orujie-genocida / 3115-jewish-fascism-the-destruct
                1. Dezzed
                  0
                  3 December 2013 22: 42
                  Quote: Boris55
                  but his disk "burned out"


                  very comfortably.

                  "In the Jenin camp, at least 18 Palestinians, of which up to half could be civilians, and 52 Israeli soldiers, had been killed by the time the troops left and the curfew was lifted on April 23."

                  "Between 1 March and 7 May 2002 and immediately thereafter, 497 Palestinians were killed and 1447 wounded."

                  (REPORT OF SECRETARY-GENERAL ON RECENT EVENTS IN JENIN, OTHER PALESTINIAN CITIES)

                  http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SG2077.doc.htm


                  Borya! For God's sake do not get carried away at night propaganda of suspicious origin!
          2. +5
            3 December 2013 22: 10
            Quote: DezzeD
            Famine in the USSR 1932−1933

            These tragic events would have been created by the Ukrainians themselves who did not want to give their state away, as a result, the population destroyed food itself.
            Exactly the same thing happened in the United States, and the period of depression, in about the same period, unless the reasons differ, in the United States it was the economic collapse of the rich, for which 8 million people paid, approximately, there is no exact figure since it is carefully hidden .
  2. +5
    3 December 2013 08: 41
    Any figure that has left a mark in history cannot be unambiguously evaluated, much less such as Stalin. You cannot be good for everyone. The head of state has one task - the state must live and go in front! And Stalin coped with this task!
    At the same time, I do not want to be a "splinter" that will fly when cutting wood. Here is the simplest reasoning that shows the complexity of all discussions.
    And the title of the article is somehow not clear. Its meaning can be expressed in other words.
  3. DZ_98_B
    +25
    3 December 2013 08: 51
    STALIN !!! I'm not a fan of his, but many of his decisions are simply brilliant. The agreement with Germany, Churchill wrote that the West itself pushed the USSR to sign this agreement. Stalin repeatedly proposed to England, France to unite against the Nazis, but ...... Under an agreement with Germany, the USSR received new equipment, weapons for study, technology. Stalin was often directly involved in the adoption of weapons. Cannons, tanks, planes. , were taken under the leadership of Stalin. T-34 to adopt the personal order of Stalin "There are a lot of shortcomings, but there are no more time." Stalin broke off one cannon with words at the KV model tank, and one is enough. At the gun Grabin asked to increase the height of the armor shield. According to Grabin himself, Stalin asked some tall general to stand at the cannon and load the cannon. In the words of the need to take care of the soldiers, he asked to increase the height of the armor shield. those around him began to advise on 30-40 cm. Stalin cut them off, the designer himself sees, enough for four fingers. Stalin is an incredible person in our history. Sorry for the confusion.
    1. smersh70
      +9
      3 December 2013 10: 42
      Quote: DZ_98_B
      The gun Grabin asked to increase the height of the armored shield

      ... also at his request, handrails were welded on the T-34 towers ... so that the fighters would hold onto him while riding. and much more .... hi an outstanding personality was ... good had a lot of life experience .. in various matters ... prison .... robberies ... charity ... determination ... burned for the sake of the country .... and even threw the family into the background. for the sake of the country ....
      ...
      1. Andof odessa
        +6
        3 December 2013 15: 24
        Well, like handrails were attached to the towers at the request of Katukov. When Stalin at the meeting asked to tell the tankers what they would like, he recommended that the engineers and plant directors present listen to their wishes. like a trifle but as demonstrated by the ability to see a lot in little things.
    2. +16
      3 December 2013 11: 07
      Quote: DZ_98_B
      Stalin's personality is incredible in our history. Forgive me for the confusion.
      Here is what Gevorg Vartanyan writes: “When the Tehran conference ended, the only one of the three leaders of the world powers - Joseph Stalin went to express gratitude to the young Shah of Iran Mohammed Reza Pahlavi for the reception, and the British expelled Reza Shah from the country. Of course, the young Shah was not ready for this There is a film about it, but it is not shown.When Stalin entered the Shah's chamber, the young Tsar jumped up from his throne, ran up, knelt down and wanted to kiss Stalin's hand, but the leader of the USSR did not allow this and raised the Shah from his knees. The very event, that Stalin expressed gratitude for the reception of the head of Iran, had a huge resonance. Neither Roosevelt, nor Churchill did so. I think that Stalin's act can be considered a very smart and thoughtful gesture, since he received a wide response ... "



      1. 0
        4 December 2013 17: 31
        Quote: bomg.77
        There is a movie about it,
        Hello. Can you tell me the name of the movie?
        1. 0
          4 December 2013 17: 43
          Quote: Be proud.
          Quote: bomg.77
          There is a movie about it,
          Hello. Can you tell me the name of the movie?
          Gordey, I don’t know what kind of movie! I brought an excerpt from one of the last interview of Gevork Vartanyan, these are his words about the film. hi
          1. 0
            4 December 2013 19: 24
            Thank you.
  4. +8
    3 December 2013 09: 05
    By the way, Alexander Bushkov called S. Stalin "The Red Emperor" for his style of thinking, management and decision-making. In my opinion, this is one of the most accurate characteristics. Well, and the scale of the personality, of course, in the 20th century in Russia, there is no one to put up next.
    1. +2
      3 December 2013 11: 56
      Not every emperor possessed such thinking.
    2. +3
      3 December 2013 15: 28
      not a "red emperor" but a "red monarch"
    3. 11111mail.ru
      +3
      3 December 2013 15: 37
      Quote: user
      By the way, Alexander Bushkov called S. Stalin "Red Emperor"

      No, AABushkov's "Red Monarch" is qualitatively different. The Roman Republic is the emperor - "(military) commander", literally a military leader. Among the Greeks, mona is one and archia is power, literally a single ruler (leader). Bushkov's definition is more precise!
  5. predator.3
    +15
    3 December 2013 09: 25
    “Stalin did not become a thing of the past, he was dissolved in the future”- proclaimed in due time de Gaulle.


    You can’t say more precisely! hi good
  6. +10
    3 December 2013 09: 27
    Yes, perhaps "Red Emperor" is very suitable for Stalin.
    1. +8
      3 December 2013 10: 31
      And he was the EMPEROR. In fact, not by name.
  7. +10
    3 December 2013 10: 14
    Good photo of Stalin. He was a product of his time and did what was required of him by the situation before the great war.
  8. +10
    3 December 2013 10: 24
    Wonderful article! The de-Stalinizers must shut up, for there is nothing to cover, unless you lie, as usual.
  9. +8
    3 December 2013 10: 25
    “Stalin had tremendous authority
    Stalin at meetings of coalition leaders always appeared last. And everyone got up. Churchill somehow decided not to get up. And so Staolin came in. Churchill absolutely involuntarily stood up with everyone. Cursed at heart and decided that the next time he certainly would not get up. Schazzz ... I got up again. He himself described these episodes ...
    1. kazssr
      +6
      3 December 2013 14: 13
      I read that Church decided not to insert it anyway, but when Stalin came in he (most likely because of his obesity) got up with a chair (stuck smile )
    2. +6
      3 December 2013 23: 28
      Quote: retired
      Stalin at meetings of coalition leaders always appeared last. And everyone got up.

      Roosevelt, on a wheelchair, and then on his hands he got up hi
  10. +6
    3 December 2013 10: 27
    the greatest personality, if he still causes discussions and various disputes .............. when will there still be someone who cares about the future of the people !?
  11. +5
    3 December 2013 10: 51
    One of the poems written by the hero of the article in his youth:
    He walked from house to house,
    Knocking at other people's doors
    With an old oak panduri
    With a simple song of his own.
    And in his song, and in the song -
    How the sun shine is clear
    Great truth sounded
    Sublime dream.
    Hearts turned to stone
    Managed to beat
    Many woke up his mind,
    Dozing in deep darkness.
    But instead of the greatness of fame
    People of his land
    Outcast Poison
    Presented in a bowl.
    They told him: "Damned,
    Drink, drain to the bottom ...
    And your song is alien to us
    And your truth is not needed! "
    1. Hudo
      +6
      3 December 2013 21: 55
      A little gray, like a silver poplar,
      He stands, taking the parade.
      How much did Sevastopol cost him,
      How much did Stalingrad cost him!
      And on blind frosty nights
      When the front swept the blizzard,
      These clear, bright eyes
      We spotted the enemy to the end.
      These black, hard years
      All hope was on him
      What super-mighty rock
      Did Nature create it?
      Winning in military science,
      Having stained snow with enemy blood
      He is in the people mighty hands
      Insolent took the enemy.
      And when the vandals approached
      To our ancient capital of the fathers,
      Where did he find such generals
      And such legendary fighters?
      He raised them. Over their education
      He thought a lot of nights and days.
      Oh what storm tests
      They were prepared!
      And in the battles for the Fatherland harsh
      Walked fearlessly to death for him,
      For his fair word,
      For the great Truth of him.
      How high he raised the Power
      The leader of the Soviet peoples-friends,
      And what world fame
      He created for his homeland!
      ... the same look. The same speeches are simple.
      The words are also mean and wise ...
      Over the military map of Russia
      His head turned gray.


      Alexander Vertinsky
  12. -11
    3 December 2013 11: 02
    praise however, for some reason it is forgotten that Soso was still second in history
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +3
      3 December 2013 15: 46
      Quote: saag
      Soso was still second in history

      Share information with the public: who was Soso first? Question number 2 in whose story? More specifically, please!
  13. +7
    3 December 2013 11: 10
    It is necessary now, Mother Russia of Stalin for a couple of years ....
    1. +8
      3 December 2013 12: 38
      And not only Russia, and not for a couple of years!
    2. vardex
      +6
      3 December 2013 13: 14
      not for a couple, but for 20 years because Russia is very big .....
    3. +6
      3 December 2013 16: 15
      Quote: siberko
      It is necessary now, Mother Russia of Stalin for a couple of years ....

      I agree with a small amendment - for a couple of decades ...
      I respect Joseph Vissarionovich very much ...
  14. soviet_ua
    +9
    3 December 2013 11: 54
    Why a couple? For many years. Then the country will once again become a Great Power
  15. -9
    3 December 2013 12: 44
    And what can the Communist Stalin do in the current capitalist society, devoid of ideas?
    1. vardex
      +10
      3 December 2013 13: 17
      Such as Stalin will always find what to do, and an idea will be found.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        +1
        3 December 2013 16: 35
        Quote: vardex
        Such as Stalin

        Such as I.V. Stalin, unfortunately, and m. fortunately - will not be! Well, in fact, imagine yourself: Mussolini - Zhirinovsky; Khrushchev - Gorbachev; ets
    2. +6
      3 December 2013 14: 58
      execute all thieves for example, especially state thieves ...
      1. 11111mail.ru
        +5
        3 December 2013 16: 29
        Quote: T80UM1
        execute all thieves for example, especially state thieves ..

        Wrong, the persons you mentioned should be forced to compensate for the damage caused to the Russian Federation (full and multiple) and also to lose the rights of the near circle of the scoundrel's relatives (+3 years after compensation for the damage), etc.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      3 December 2013 16: 52
      Quote: saag
      what communist Stalin can do in the current capitalist society, devoid of ideas

      Dear, you have equal parts of cutlets and flies in your plate. The idea of ​​capitalism (if you continue to call the modern Russian social system "capitalism") has always consisted of making the most of the money invested in some kind of fraud. A passionary oriented, like JV Stalin, towards building a state with his face turned to man, can unite Russian society to overcome the filthy pit of the last 23 years.
  16. +10
    3 December 2013 13: 23
    The best leader ever. And even with a subtle sense of humor.

    Stalin once asked one of the leaders of the weather service what their accuracy of forecasts was.
    He, cautious and not wanting to look like a bouncer, said: -Honestly, it is small, Comrade Stalin. Based on the testimony of existing instruments and our experience, only 40%.
    Then Stalin, thinking, said: -And vi (a feature of Stalin’s pronunciation) say the opposite, then the accuracy will be 60%.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      3 December 2013 15: 52
      Quote: bya965
      -A vi (the peculiarity of Stalin’s pronunciation) say the opposite, then the accuracy will be 60%.

      Do not stir up the discussion! The justification of forecasts for the Air Force of the Red Army (USSR) from 1942 to 1945 was above 85%! Therefore, take an interest in the fate of the meteorologist who issued the forecast for June 24, 1945 in Moscow.
  17. -3
    3 December 2013 13: 45
    Quote: vardex
    Such as Stalin will always find what to do, and an idea will be found.

    No, they’ll act with him simply by putting Zyuganov in his place, so that he doesn’t interfere with the budget, so that he can do something, he needs another person who can organize the masses in order to take and maintain power in the minority and his surname is completely different
    1. +7
      3 December 2013 14: 20
      So Stalin did this at the time - he took and retained power in the minority. The fifth column in the country was defeated by almost one person. This is not Zyuganov's puppet, who was put on the sidelines on a toy-type communist chair, like a rag doll.
  18. major1976
    +9
    3 December 2013 14: 27
    Also, Generalissimo I.V. Stalin was a modest man in everyday life! After his death, when security officers sorted his personal belongings, they were surprised at his modesty and believed that each of them would be richer than a leader! The current leaders with their multi-billion dollar fortunes are an example (not in money is happiness and not in their quantity)! Sooner or later, the wind of history will carry all the rubbish that used to fill his bright name before and even now!
    1. +9
      3 December 2013 15: 55
      You shouldn’t be so, my friend (with squinting). There are things that he had a lot of - BOOKS!
    2. Dezzed
      -5
      3 December 2013 20: 52
      I think the security guards looked a bit narrow.
      Stalin was the king, the Idea and the whole country was his. there is no need to shove the excess into the king’s room.
      1. 0
        17 December 2013 18: 10
        Quote: DezzeD
        Stalin was the king, the Idea and the whole country was his. there is no need to shove the excess into the king’s room.

        What is bad? Besides him, everyone else used it.
  19. -3
    3 December 2013 14: 53
    Quote: Valkyrie
    So Stalin did this at the time - he took and retained power in the minority

    No, this was done by Vladimir Ulyanov-Lenin in 1917
    1. Uhe
      Uhe
      +4
      3 December 2013 15: 49
      The Bolsheviks occupied the majority at all levels of the Soviets;) That is what gave them the legal right to remove the Provisional Government by decision of the Congress of People's Deputies as an unnecessary and inoperative structure.

      Stalin personally took part in the preparation and implementation of the October Revolution, in other words, the revolution, leading the headquarters of the uprising. In all the elections of the soviets, as well as in preparation for the revolution, Lenin did not take part, since he was abroad, unlike Stalin, who played an important role both there and there. So in some ways the Valkyrie is right :)

      Lenin was a great man, but he did not need to be endowed with those merits that he did not have. He already has so many of them that the extra ones are simply not needed :)
    2. 11111mail.ru
      +4
      3 December 2013 16: 21
      Quote: saag
      No, this was done by Vladimir Ulyanov-Lenin in 1917

      Figures, this operation was carried out on January 5-6, 1918! This action was called the dispersal of the Constituent Assembly, which led to the outbreak of the civil war in Russia.
      The main merit of J.V. Stalin is overcoming the inclinations to the world revolution, L.D. Trotsky's favorite toy. Then the subsequent removal from the party of LD Trotsky by the hands of the "leaders of the world revolution" Zinoviev (Radomyslsky-Apfelbaum) and Kamenev (Rosenfeld). Then, in the pacification (repose) of the bloody ghouls in the Red Army and the NKVD, Trotsky's henchmen (Tukhachevsky, Yakir, Yagoda, etc.). And, finally, the execution of the sentence to the ideologist of the permanent revolution by R. Mercader! ONLY after the elimination of Trotsky, J.V. Stalin was able to fully lead the USSR. Hey! Minus, Yeltsinoids!
  20. +6
    3 December 2013 15: 22
    Big seen in the distance. It would seem an objective postulate. BUT. In the case of Stalin, his greatness was better and clearer seen by contemporaries, and for some reason * distinguishes most descendants very poorly.

    * It seems to me that "historians" and writers / journalists are to a large extent to blame for currying favor with everyone who ruled the country after Him (history is written by the winners, in this case - the heirs). In addition, there is a place to attribute everything that happened / was done by the performers to one person. And this is the main focus.
    1. +3
      3 December 2013 16: 18
      Quote: _Are_
      * It seems to me that "historians" and writers / journalists who curry favor with everyone who ruled the country after Him are largely to blame

      That's right. There are memories of this:
      “... in the book“ Stalingrad ”published in 1961, Marshal A. I. Eremenko argued that he, then colonel general and member of the Military Council, N. S. Khrushchev, was the initiators and main executors of the plan to defeat the Germans in the Stalingrad region. At the same time, it belittled the contribution to the victory at Stalingrad, Zhukov and Vasilevsky, not to mention Stalin. Zhukov in his memoirs condemned such bias Eremenko. And years later, he still asked Eremenko how he could write such a story about the Battle of Stalingrad. To which Eremenko replied: “Khrushchev asked me”
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  22. +12
    3 December 2013 15: 48
    For the sake of justice, his followers tried to create the image of Stalin - a tyrant. Take, for example, N.S. Khrushchev. Being an accomplice of mass repressions, he "poured" all the dirt to shield himself. These were the "followers" of Stalin. These are our rulers. And it's not for nothing that today, seeing what is happening in the country, older people say: Stalin is not on you!
    1. +3
      3 December 2013 19: 19
      In my opinion, the mistake of the communists is that a normal mechanism for the transfer of power to the next generation has not been created. All sat in chairs either until their death, or they were shifted. If they were cultivated and led from the very bottom to the very top. And so we got the armchair Gorbachev. A pure apparatchik - he would have to tinker with pieces of paper in the archives, and not run the country. He would have to work out three pounds of sweat on the ground or in production. I like how the Chinese feel about this. Quietly, without a fuss, they handed over power to the "younger", the "elders" control them for some time. And the younger ones are already looking for and selecting candidates to replace them - they load them with work, watch how they cope. And while the authorities prepare a replacement for themselves, choose worthy ones - there is time, work and results will show who is worthy and who is not. Such an attitude towards the next generations would not have allowed the USSR to be destroyed. And so those who know how to chat and suck up will climb out. Yeltsin's only merit is Putin. How did he guess ?! A riddle for historians. hi
  23. +4
    3 December 2013 16: 35
    There are no political figures like Stalin anywhere in the world. Stalin is a product of his era. The era is different now
  24. amigo1969
    +7
    3 December 2013 16: 52
    Quote: kirgudu
    Good photo of Stalin. He was a product of his time and did what was required of him by the situation before the great war.

    Quite right! We are now looking at his actions from the perspective of the 21st century. Then the world was completely different: after the United States declared war on Japan, all American citizens of Japanese origin (3 million people) were sent to concentration camps, the Italians gassed Ethiopians, we can talk for a long time about the "humane" British ..... Against their background, "bloodthirstiness" Stalin somehow fades. But only a few can boast of building a powerful industrial power in a short time. IMHO - the personality, deeds and actions of Stalin have not yet been properly studied.
  25. 0
    3 December 2013 17: 32
    Quote: Boris55
    Both Stalin and Putin are Bolsheviks, they are for the "happiness" of the majority.

    I never knew that "Bolshevism" is for the happiness of a certain majority!
    Well, if Putin is Bolshevik now too !!!!, I won’t be surprised that by his coming of age (at the age of 18 at the helm) he will become the FATHER OF PEOPLES !!!
  26. 0
    3 December 2013 17: 32
    Quote: Boris55
    Both Stalin and Putin are Bolsheviks, they are for the "happiness" of the majority.

    I never knew that "Bolshevism" is for the happiness of a certain majority!
    Well, if Putin is Bolshevik now too !!!!, I won’t be surprised that by his coming of age (at the age of 18 at the helm) he will become the FATHER OF PEOPLES !!!
  27. 0
    3 December 2013 18: 05
    Quote: 11111mail.ru
    Figures, this operation was carried out January 5-6, 1918

    bad, really bad, sir, with both culture and history, there was originally an arrest of the Provisional Government in Zimny, well, they also shot at Krasnaya Presnya, it was a seizure of power, and the Constituent Assembly only later, it was the organization at the right time to take power in their own hands, with preliminary work among the masses in factories, such as the organization of party cells, the publication of newspapers, work with the Petrograd garrison, the Baltic crew and other troops
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      3 December 2013 20: 07
      Quote: saag
      bad, really bad sir, with both culture and history,

      There was no phenomenon of the October coup, there was a planned surrender of power by Comrade. A.F.Kurensky to comrade V.I. Ulyanov-Lenin. Where were the Bolsheviks after the July 1917 riot? That's right, some are in Razliv, some are in jail, but politically in a railway station! Who put pressure on Alexander Fedorovich, so that he would surrender General Kornilov Lavr Georgievich and armed the workers under this sauce. What carrot to attract opponents to allies? Pretend to be fools and promise free elections to the Constituent Assembly! Lenin @ Trotsky, having lost the elections to the Constituent Assembly, treated the country like Ostap Bender in Vasyuki (the comparison is not mine, but very accurate). It is not necessary, dear, for the night "History of the CPSU" ed. 5 to re-read!
  28. +1
    3 December 2013 18: 24
    Quote: Uhe
    Stalin personally took part in the preparation and implementation of the October Revolution, in other words the revolution, leading the headquarters of the uprising

    He was a member of the Military Revolutionary Committee, but did not lead, the organizers were Lenin, Sverdlov, Trotsky, Antonov-Ovseenko, Podvoisky also participated directly in the leadership ...
  29. Yarosvet
    +5
    3 December 2013 18: 34
    The ambiguous feeling from the article ...

    The next attempt to link Stalin with almost unlimited power (which he never had), the USSR with the empire (which he never had), and the current period and the country's leadership with the Stalin period and leadership are striking.
    Someone really wants to create a similar stereotype and fix it in the consciousness of society.
  30. +3
    3 December 2013 19: 06
    Thanks to Stalin and grandfather for our glorious victory
  31. +6
    3 December 2013 20: 52
    Could and insert a color
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  33. 0
    3 December 2013 21: 13
    tells “However,” Russian historian Roy Medvedev. Roy Medvedev)) Something with something)
  34. DZ_98_B
    0
    3 December 2013 21: 24
    And today my wife was killed ... And we are sitting with our sons and crying, what should I do?
    1. Hudo
      +6
      3 December 2013 22: 08
      Quote: DZ_98_B
      And today my wife was killed ... And we are sitting with our sons and crying, what should I do?

      Sasha, I'm sorry that you, go to church, put a candle, your grief is immense, but you must survive the grief.
      My sincere condolences from the bottom of my heart.
    2. +5
      3 December 2013 22: 23
      To live on. Your task is to raise sons to educate them correctly. Make them real men! In no case do not allow something like this to ever happen again. Do not make rash acts that will put an end to your life and the lives of your children (I mean revenge) It all depends on you!
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    4. Yarosvet
      +8
      3 December 2013 22: 44
      Quote: DZ_98_B

      Condolences ... Strength
    5. +8
      3 December 2013 23: 21
      I bring you and your sons the most sincere and deepest condolences. I understand and sympathize with all of you. There is such an expression, children remain orphans after the loss of the Mother. Your sons and you, including you, are not alone, We are all together as one. From myself I wish you perseverance . God help you. Amen.
    6. +5
      3 December 2013 23: 50
      Quote: DZ_98_B
      And today my wife was killed ... And we are sitting with our sons and crying, what should I do?

      Find the killer, and then ... you decide and act.
    7. +5
      4 December 2013 04: 34
      Hold on Sasha. We must survive ...
  35. +7
    3 December 2013 22: 18
    Quote: DZ_98_B
    And today my wife was killed ... And we are sitting with our sons and crying, what should I do?

    Lord What can I do about it! I don’t even have enough words to express everything that I felt after reading your post! Demand that they find the killers! To bury ... this is not all advice. But be sure to tell the children that mom might be better now. She was a bright man and went to LIGHT! She will always be with you as long as you remember her. And it may even be able to answer you if you ask her for advice. And the pan will be punished! Sure! Hold on!
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  37. Alf
    +4
    3 December 2013 22: 31
    Quote: saag
    And what can the Communist Stalin do in the current capitalist society, devoid of ideas?

    A lot of things ! Now our people are not so divided by capitalism, as it is represented in the media. More and more people think and look back every day. And this is not 50-60 year olds, but already young people studying now. And more and more often the voices of young people are heard about the greatness of the USSR and the name of Stalin connected with this name. And if Stalin appears now not as Stalin, but as a person who professes the worldview and spiritual and moral qualities of Stalin, then the people will rise from a nightmare and follow him.
  38. Current 72
    +5
    3 December 2013 23: 04
    Stalin - steel, titanium - but corrosion does not adhere to these metals. And no matter how verbiage they were, and they poured dirt on STALIN, his face will always remain bright and clear !!!
  39. +6
    4 December 2013 00: 00

    Avro Lancaster BI (e.g. ED382, board. SR-J). UK Royal Air Force 101 Squadron, Holme-on-Spalding-Moor, England. 4 May 1943 year. The flight commander, flyin’s office worker Don Austin, was so impressed with Stalin’s personality and the scale of the hostilities on the Eastern Front that he decided to draw a portrait of Stalin on board the plane and write his name: “Joe”.
  40. +2
    4 December 2013 00: 09
    The picture shows the English 4 motor bomber Avro Lancaster. It is most likely that the aircraft from the 463-th heavy bomber squadron of the Royal Air Force of Australia. On board Lancaster, a ballot paper is schematically drawn. The candidates on the newsletter list are political leaders during the Second World War:
    John Curtin, Prime Minister of Australia;
    Ian Christian Smuts, Prime Minister of the Union of South Africa;
    Joseph Stalin, Chairman of the GKO, SNK and NPO of the USSR;
    Winston Churchill, Prime Minister and Secretary of Defense of Great Britain;
    Mahatma Gandhi, political and ideological leader of India.
    In front of the ballot is the inscription: "Vote for Joe." Joe - short for Joseph, in Russian - Joseph, that was the name of Stalin in the English-speaking world. "Extra" - the personal name of the aircraft, given to him by the crew. Asterisks - bombardment sorties (Australians in Europe worked mainly on targets in Germany and France).
  41. DZ_98_B
    +1
    4 December 2013 01: 13
    FORGIVE ME!!
  42. +1
    4 December 2013 20: 22
    It made me so angry that my daughter no longer has a "Diary of a Russian Schoolboy"!
  43. 0
    4 December 2013 21: 31
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: DZ_98_B
    The gun Grabin asked to increase the height of the armored shield

    ... also at his request, handrails were welded on the T-34 towers ... so that the fighters would hold onto him while riding. and much more .... hi an outstanding personality was ... good had a lot of life experience .. in various matters ... prison .... robberies ... charity ... determination ... burned for the sake of the country .... and even threw the family into the background. for the sake of the country ....
    ...

    A request ?! His "requests" were fulfilled so that those who performed the race ran and try not to fulfill such a request! Not at all like now there are no guilty ones ...
  44. bubble82009
    0
    5 December 2013 02: 18
    Stalin himself said that he would be appreciated after centuries. He organized the Victory in the Second World War, and not Shalamov and Solzhenitsyn.
  45. +1
    5 December 2013 08: 20
    This is especially for the "handshake" individuals of our country:
    http://aloban75.livejournal.com/263337.html
    "... Yesterday at Honest Monday, Mr. Barshchevsky shouted about his shot grandfather. At the same time, he is silent about his grandmother.
    And the grandmother of Barshchevsky, the wife of that same grandfather, Tatyana Alpert was a very interesting person. At first she served in the Cheka in Ukraine. Started, Ukrainian friends? Remember what the curly KGB officers did? And in the 30's Tatyana Alpert was deputy. Moscow prosecutor. Yeah.
    Barshchevsky’s grandfathers have a big problem. There were actually two of them. And both are husbands of the Alpert KGB. And both, by a strange coincidence, came under execution.
    Barshchevsky recently stated that his grandfather was killed on the personal order of Stalin. So this is clearly not about his own grandfather, Dmitry Barshchevsky. That was executed in 1935. And after that, Alpert becomes deputy. prosecutor in the capital.
    She is even a wife and an ex, but it does not happen. Probably, fellow lawyer Barshchevsky was shot under another article. I can be mistaken, but, in my opinion, for speculation with a piece of gold, for example, execution was also relied on. In addition, his descendant, sort of like “the son of an enemy of the people”, quite successfully finished law school and worked in Stalin's time (do not laugh) as an investigator of the prosecutor's office.
    .. "
    Read, it will be interesting)))
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +1
      5 December 2013 20: 07
      Quote: ImPerts
      Barshchevsky recently stated that his grandfather was killed on the personal order of Stalin.

      Moishenka Yurievich was diagnosed with "mania grandiosa"! It's time to find an appropriate clinician who is able to sign an epicrisis. A pimple dreaming on the scale of a mountain ridge: the scale of a slipper is a continent! Well, really, imagine: DBB: Stalin, yes you ..., fuck you ... so that ... I.V.S. Well, of course, zasr "Yenets, comrade Yagoda, take it into development! He is very dangerous for me personally!

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