Arson churches in Tatarstan recognized the attacks

A series of arson churches continued in Tatarstan. On the night of November 29, unidentified persons burned down two Orthodox churches - in honor of the Nativity of St. John the Forerunner in the village of Albay of the Mamadyshsky district and in honor of the Life-giving Trinity in the village of the Baptized Kazyl of the Rybno-Slobodsky district of the republic. A week earlier, two more churches were burned in Tatarstan. The prosecutor's office intends to qualify the crimes as terrorist acts.

The parishioners of the temples set on fire on the eve of the church were Kryashens, a subethnos of the Tatar people, baptized Tatars. As NG has already reported (see number from 19.11.13), a week in Tatarstan two more Orthodox churches were burning.

The first, in honor of St. Dmitry Solunsky in the village of Lenino in the Novosheshminsky district (the church was completely destroyed), the second in honor of the new martyrs and confessors of Russia in Chistopol (this church was saved). The prosecutor's office of Tatarstan described the events as terrorist acts and ordered the initiation of criminal cases under the relevant articles. At an emergency meeting last Friday, the head of the department, Ildus Nafikov, said that the arsons are not random, and law enforcement agencies are obliged to give an adequate response to attackers who are counting on destabilizing the situation in the region.

According to "NG", the priests who served in the temples affected by the fire, put a round-the-clock police guard.

Figures of the Russian national-patriotic organizations of the republic are convinced that the burning of Orthodox churches in Tatarstan is the work of terrorists, moreover, radical and Islamic. This is, in particular, said in an address to the public by a well-known in Tatarstan scholar, chairman of the Society of Russian Culture of Tatarstan, professor Alexander Salagaev. In his opinion, the passivity of the authorities regarding extremists in Tatarstan allowed them to commit lawlessness over the past 15 years. “In 1990, there was an attempt to destroy the foundation of St. Tatiana’s church under construction in Naberezhnye Chelny. At the beginning of 2010, the arson of the priest’s house in the village of Bazaar Mataki was set on fire. In September and November, two chapels in the Trans-Kama region were set on fire. 17 November set fire to two churches in Chistopol and with. Lenino Novosheshminsky area and today two more temples - the church in the village. Albay Mamadysh district in honor of the birth of St.. In. The forerunner (the temple was built in 1873) and the church in the village of the Baptized Kazyly of the Rybnoe-Slobodsky district of Tatarstan in honor of the Holy Trinity, ”Salagayev lists in his address to the public (the letter’s features have been preserved. -“ NG ”).

According to Salagaev, religious extremists declared war on Orthodoxy. At the same time, the Tatarstan metropolis, according to Salagayev, “instead of sounding the alarm”, “with stingy lines states events or simply calls them“ outrageous cases of vandalism ”. “Why do we need such a metropolis and such a metropolitan who cannot even say a word in defense of their flock? Now the Orthodox in Tatarstan can only hope for the protection of Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill, ”the leader of the Society of Russian Culture of Tatarstan is sure. His opinion is shared by analysts of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, who are confident that “in 2013, Tatarstan risks entering all the world reports of Christian human rights organizations as a stress point.”

Yesterday, the head of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of Tatarstan, Mufti Camille Samigullin, expressed concern about the burning of Orthodox churches, in particular, stating that "certain forces" are trying to destabilize the situation in the republic. “We sincerely regret what happened and hope that the law enforcement agencies will find the perpetrators and they will be duly punished. We urge to unite our society against the forces that want to bring discord in relations between different nations and denominations, ”said the mufti.

Comments

[Gregazov]

Received another greetings from Saudi Arabia. The problem must be solved politically and economically, blocking the channels of money.

[Bosk]

GOD is one and for the arsons of temples all arsonists will receive in full after ... and even during their lifetime, these defilers will suffer a great deal!

[DAGESTAN333]

That's right!

[tilovaykrisa]

Better let them get it now, and not when there after their scummy life, which quite possibly will not be so short, one article in the case excited a serious, and not some sort of hooliganism or vandalism like our law enforcement officers like.

[AVV]

Yes, and the authorities need not stay out !!! And on the site of one burnt temple to build two, three !!! And equip surveillance cameras with cameras, and normal security !!! War, there is war !!!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AVV

! And in place of one burnt temple to build two, three !!! And equip surveillance cameras with cameras, and normal protection !!! War, there is war !!!

It was precisely this reaction that the arsonists expected. This is a provocation for certain actions. Again the wedge is driven in. The attention of the society is drawn to the fact that all Muslim migrants who are not beloved are Muslims, and ALL Muslims, including our Tatars, associatively fall under the common comb. The common ground of religions has always been used by manipulators. Lebanon, the Caucasus, Ireland, there are many such examples.

[Airman]

Quote: Bosk

GOD is one and for the arsons of temples all arsonists will receive in full after ... and even during their lifetime, these defilers will suffer a great deal!

Yes, it’s forgotten - an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, stop turning your cheeks.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bosk

and in life, these defilers are tormented by the big!

Hope for God, but don’t be fooled.

Quote: GregAzov

Received another greetings from Saudi Arabia.

Namely, excessive softness is burped in relation to religious emissaries.

[alone]

Moral U.rody! These people are Satanists! Hurry to send them to Hell!

they are jackals hiding behind religion, doing what is forbidden by religion !!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Explain to me from Ukraine. In Tatarstan, it seems to be full of military-industrial complex enterprises and ordinary factories that are loaded with orders. Are there really a lot of unemployed youth on the streets who are so easily amenable to vvahabism Or, after a working day and a machine, the Tatar proletarian, right from the factory entrance, wiping the sweat from his forehead, goes to burn the Church?

[Scarte]

No, just especially lazy and brainwashed. Everyone loves a freebie, but if you pay for it, they’ll do it with pleasure. Well, the thing was not without mishandled Cossacks.

[Baboon]

Still, school-age teenagers who still do not work are always more violently behaving, blood still boils. and they have more intolerance. At the age of 15-18, it is quite and possible to do such things. Well, married, gave birth to a child, somehow cool.

[nik6006]

There is no need to blame teenagers here, it is clear that these are targeted actions, it is necessary to find and indicatively punish, and moreover, Muslims themselves must do this!
The Orthodox people are patient, but do not look for the limits of this patience. It is necessary to restore order in the republic, urgently to investigate it, otherwise it will blaze in the center of Russia, it is not necessary for the Tatars and the Russians. This will greatly weaken both Russia and Tatarstan. It seems to me that extremists think in some categories from the Stone Age.

[n-kama]

but it is necessary to conduct comprehensive work with adolescents, not to give them time and energy to do such things.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

There are a lot of migrants from the Caucasus and Turks with Arabs, too, but a little bit there.

[nik6006]

Well, this is already a question for the authorities of Tatarstan, whom they host there. I heard a lot about Turks and Arabs, but I have to work with it this way, I don’t think that they really want to have problems in their homeland like with Chechnya.

[DEfindER]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Is it really full of unemployed youth on the streets, who so easily succumb to Wahhabism?

The problem seems to me that there is no our system of religious education, and everyone who wants to make a religious career in Islam, is going to study in Saudi Arabia, coming from there already by Wahhabis. Then they create a cell where they recruit the most uneducated and near-minded people, and they have excellent funding .. All this can be easily defeated, you only need the will of the authorities of Tatarstan, which for some reason is not visible. Either the authorities there are not coping with their duties, or have some kind of interest in fueling a conflict in Russia ..

[Gecko]

Units are being recruited, the trail stretches from Saudi Arabia, as some receive a theological education there.

[alex-s]

Here's something I am tormented by vague doubts that these are far from unemployed young people! Rather, these are well-paid "friends" of our country !!!

[alex86]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

which are loaded with orders.

The factories of the military-industrial complex - aviation, engine-building - mostly barely survive, the equipment is sold out, there is no one to work, gunpowder - everyone thinks whether to live or not, the tochmash - does something, but without enthusiasm (this is Kazan). In the oil regions, on the one hand, it is easier - salaries are high, but the opportunity to get a good job is determined by family ties. Therefore, employment does not correlate with Wahhabism. It is rather a trace of Islamic education in Saudi Arabia, etc. places where the guys are directly attuned to (conditionally) terrorism. What can I say, if the main newly built mosque in the Kremlin was given to the Wahhabis (now, it seems, under the guise of repairs, they were kicked out), and this is a stone's throw from our "president". And Wahhbiism is secretly supported by the authorities in order to have a scarecrow for Moscow - when money is needed, it (the scarecrow) is pulled out.

[starshina78]

The metropolis of the Orthodox Church is not to blame for this, but the republican and partly federal authorities. Local authorities are turning a blind eye to Wahhabism in the Republic, and the federal government is afraid to interfere in the affairs of Tatarstan, since there may be an outbreak of radicalism among the population, which is already fueled by these very radicals from Islam. An example of the fear of Tatarstan by the federal government is in the history books newly developed, the mention of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, the capture of Kazan by the army of Ivan the Terrible, was withdrawn. The liberal policy of the federal center towards Tatarstan can lead to terrible events, such as a civil war, the expulsion of Russians from the republic, terrorism, and much more. It is time for the feds to pay close attention to Tarastan, Bashkiria, and other republics in which the influence of the Wahhabis is strong.

[Yuri Y.]

The parishioners of the temples set alight on the eve of the temples — kryashen — are the subethnos of the Tatar people, baptized Tatars.

At the same time, Islamists consider baptized Tatars a kind of traitors. Another confirmation of the denseness of the Islamists. The roots of these Christians are in Mongolia. The Golden Horde has already come to Russia with its Christians. I'm not saying that then the official religion was paganism, there was still no talk of Muslims. In local conditions, they converted to Orthodoxy in our form.

[Ptah]

Quote: Yuri Ya.

The Golden Horde has already come to Russia with its Christians. The roots of these Christians are in Mongolia.

What are you !?
Read, or look for yourself?

barkar-82.narod.ru/bulgaria.htm

bibliofond.ru/view.aspx?id=533888

open-volga.ru/tourist_route/volga_bulgaria/

[Yuri Y.]

And here it is. I'm not saying that the Golden Horde was Christian. It included tribes of the Kereits, Merkits, Naimans, Uyghurs who lived in the territories where it came from, and among them there were many Nestorian Christians. The Kereites, for example, adopted Nestorianism in 1007 long before Genghis Khan. Or the Golden Horde did not affect the Tatars.

[starshina78]

The metropolis of the Orthodox Church is not to blame for this, but the republican and partly federal authorities. Local authorities are turning a blind eye to Wahhabism in the Republic, and the federal government is afraid to interfere in the affairs of Tatarstan, since there may be an outbreak of radicalism among the population, which is already fueled by these very radicals from Islam. An example of the fear of Tatarstan by the federal government is in the history books newly developed, the mention of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, the capture of Kazan by the army of Ivan the Terrible, was withdrawn. The liberal policy of the federal center towards Tatarstan can lead to terrible events, such as a civil war, the expulsion of Russians from the republic, terrorism, and much more. It is time for the feds to pay close attention to Tarastan, Bashkiria, and other republics in which the influence of the Wahhabis is strong.

[nemec55]

Well, that's what I said WHERE Orthodox extremists ????, they are not !!! Why? Because this faith does not suggest and does not lead to violence by ancestors. Contemplation and humility, love and goodness are the foundations of Orthodoxy, and no matter how an atheist a person sits in it, the root of his grandfather is Orthodox.

[Christian]

Foreign directors and their fifth column in Russia are doing everything to foment an interethnic, interfaith war. You don’t have to succumb to law enforcement. You need to fight with law governors.

[nemec55]

Quite right, but the question that remains open Why is it easier for Muslims to dirt their brains? Or did these brains themselves want this?

[wk-083]

Where are the brains from? And the metropolis will begin to scream when they burn the metropolitan!

[bairat]

The nationality and religion of the arsonists is unknown, I ask you not to draw far-reaching conclusions. I myself note that peaceful life in Tatarstan is haunting many, any minor incident in the media is inflated to universal proportions, it is necessary not to oppose peoples and religions but to find and judge provocateurs.

[Christian]

Because the Russians, in general, do not want to know anything about the faith of their fathers — neither truth nor fiction.

[DEfindER]

Quote: nemec55

Why is it easier for Muslims to dirt their brains?

Apparently from the fact that Islam is a younger religion and is now at the stage of radicalism that was in Christianity (Catholic) during the Crusades, when all non-baptized people were either baptized or cut out .. Our Orthodoxy never fell to radicalism, just like our Islam has differences from that Asian aggressive Islam. The main thing is not to let it radicalize, as we did not allow our Catholics to radicalize our Christians at one time ..

[catapractic]

Wahhabis need help - help them meet with Allah and the Guris in paradise faster

[avg]

Yesterday, the head of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of Tatarstan, Mufti Camille Samigullin, expressed concern about the burning of Orthodox churches, in particular, stating that "certain forces" are trying to destabilize the situation in the republic. “We sincerely regret what happened and hope that the law enforcement agencies will find the perpetrators and they will be duly punished. We urge to unite our society against the forces that want to bring discord in relations between different nations and denominations, ”said the mufti.

Well, finally, at least one woke up.

[bairat]

And at the first arson, the DUM immediately outlined its condemning position.

[FunkschNNX]

Here's how to be, believers offend believers, whom to punish for insulting the feelings of believers?
But in fact, this is some kind of redneck to burn religious buildings. Although what to take a herd from them, it is a herd.

[alex-s]

The believer will never go to the arson of the temple!

[FunkschNNX]

Nevertheless, the churches were burned down or are they militant atheists ???

[alex-s]

Rather, it’s militant fuck ** sti!

[Semurg]

Quote: alex-s

Rather, it’s militant fuck ** sti!

after the Pussy Wright incident, several crosses were cut. I wonder who did this Muslims, atheists, fuck *** st? the authorities need to find arsonists and judge if this is not the situation will worsen.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Semurg

the authorities need to find arsonists and judge if this is not the situation will worsen.

Absolutely agree. But from the opportunity to play fried, some of the same government will not refuse.

[predator.3]

Quote: bairat

The nationality and religion of the arsonists is unknown, I ask you not to draw far-reaching conclusions. I myself note that peaceful life in Tatarstan is haunting many, any minor incident in the media is inflated to universal proportions, it is necessary not to oppose peoples and religions but to find and judge provocateurs.

That's right, someone wanted to take control of Tatneft and other petrochemical enterprises of Tatarstan! In Bashkiria, we have already passed this!

Quote: starshina78

. It is time for the feds to pay close attention to Tarastan, Bashkiria, and other republics in which the influence of the Wahhabis is strong.

Dear, please show me at least one Wahhabi in Ufa, there are plenty of Gaster and blacks, especially this year, they roam around the city in whole schools.

[Humpty]

In our city 2,5 years ago, a crowd of drunken Kyrgyz - Muslims came to rob and burn down the church. They were expected, not a priest (he ran away), but simple guys who do not really understand the practical meaning of "turn one cheek, then the other." The arsonists did only what they did not count on.
None of the Muslim policemen and passers-by tried to stop their crazy co-religionists.

[Ptah]

Quote: Humpty

None of the Muslim policemen and passers-by tried to stop their crazy co-religionists

Only those who have lived in the so-called can agree with this statement. "Muslim" regions and knows the temper of Muslims not from tolerant programs and festive sermons of imams on TV.
Including me. Others will say "about the religion of good" ...
A Tatar (Bashkir, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, etc.) will never go alone to slaughter a neighbor's family of "infidels". Well, unless he is "hinted" by the imam or the local "aksakal". In a crowd, it's a different matter. But the prerequisites must be formed for this. We understand what ...

One of the burning churches in Chistopol is visible from the windows of my brother’s house. In the photo he is in early spring. Now there are walls and domes.
I won’t tell you about other churches, I don’t know the details, but they talked about this with relatives last week. Yes, I personally know the current abbot.
The arson was done without preparation! Some "bearded students". They used the remnants of raw (!!!) boards lying nearby, pieces of roofing material and a bunch of construction waste, doused with either gasoline or white spirit, that turned up under the arm. They fired it right on the porch, at the door - so they saw the hearth almost immediately from the road and threw wet mud.
We would like to deliberately burn - we would prepare something like napalm from a mixture of a solvent and the polystyrene dissolved in it. A bunch of recipes in tyrnets.
The cops need to look for all the cars that passed in that area on the surveillance cameras and shake them for connections. They will find (if they want) a lot of "savory".

Threat. Only those temples that were not under video surveillance burned. Recently, many others have been built and equipped with security and fire alarms. They do not encroach on them.

[FormerMariman]

"In our city 2,5 years ago, a crowd of DRUNK KIRGIZ - MUSLIMS rushed to rob and burn down the church" Alexander themselves understood what they wrote that? So how many "Orthodox" criminals will be counted (they have crosses and churches gouged out on their bodies)! No provocations needed! Yours faithfully!

[Humpty]

Only now I finally realized that it’s not the people I have indicated that I gave a brief description of provoke actions whose consequences are unpredictable. It is I myself who provoke them to set fire to enterprises, churches, attacks on ambulance stations, set fire to apartment buildings and more serious crimes. Thank . I will consider. Sincerely .

[FormerMariman]

Dear Alexander, I meant that you do not need to call wild drunk Kyrgyz people Muslims, because this is wrong and can be a provocation for Islamophobes!

[asadov]

It's time for the churches to find fists

[asadov]

It's time for the churches to find fists

[NKVD]

The fist of the church will not save. The unity of Christians and Muslims will save. God is one and one country.

[FormerMariman]

Only those who have lived in the so-called can agree with this statement. "Muslim" regions and knows the temper of Muslims not from tolerant programs and festive sermons of imams on TV.
Including me. Others will say "about the religion of good" ...
A Tatar (Bashkir, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, etc.) will never go alone to slaughter a neighbor's family of "infidels". Well, unless he is "hinted" by the imam or the local "aksakal". In a crowd, it's a different matter. But the prerequisites must be formed for this. We understand what ...
I live in such a country and you are wrong here! Do not be lazy, go to http://www.zakon.kz/4586570-musulmanskie-lidery-rk-prizyvajut.html

[FormerMariman]

Only those who have lived in the so-called can agree with this statement. "Muslim" regions and knows the temper of Muslims not from tolerant programs and festive sermons of imams on TV.
Including me. Others will say "about the religion of good" ...
A Tatar (Bashkir, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, etc.) will never go alone to slaughter a neighbor's family of "infidels". Well, unless he is "hinted" by the imam or the local "aksakal". In a crowd, it's a different matter. But the prerequisites must be formed for this. We understand what ...
I live in such a country and you are wrong here! Do not be lazy, go to http://www.zakon.kz/4586570-musulmanskie-lidery-rk-prizyvajut.html

[Heccrbq.3]

Moreman, I have one expression for you --- don’t pi .. and!

[Byordovvv1]

It seems to me that Tatar law enforcement officers are on the side of the Islamists.

[FormerMariman]

Quote: Humpty

Only now I finally realized that it’s not the people I have indicated that I gave a brief description of provoke actions whose consequences are unpredictable. It is I myself who provoke them to set fire to enterprises, churches, attacks on ambulance stations, set fire to apartment buildings and more serious crimes. Thank . I will consider. Sincerely .

Dear Alexander, I meant that you do not need to call wild drunk Kyrgyz people Muslims, because this is wrong and can be a provocation for Islamophobes!

[FormerMariman]

Quote: Humpty

Only now I finally realized that it’s not the people I have indicated that I gave a brief description of provoke actions whose consequences are unpredictable. It is I myself who provoke them to set fire to enterprises, churches, attacks on ambulance stations, set fire to apartment buildings and more serious crimes. Thank . I will consider. Sincerely .

Dear Alexander, I meant that you do not need to call wild drunk Kyrgyz people Muslims, because this is wrong and can be a provocation for Islamophobes!

[vlad0]

[Quote from starshina78]

The metropolis of the Orthodox Church is not to blame for this, but the republican and partly federal authorities. Local authorities turn a blind eye to Wahhabism in the Republic, and the federal government is afraid to intervene in the affairs of Tatarstan, since there may be an outbreak of radicalism among the population, which is already fueled by these very radicals from Islam. An example of the fear of Tatarstan by the federal government is in the history books newly developed, the mention of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, the capture of Kazan by the army of Ivan the Terrible, was withdrawn.


Over the past 20 years, the leadership of Tatarstan has tried in every possible way to note the exclusiveness of the Tatars in relation to the rest of the peoples living in the republic and to maintain a special status in relation to other subjects of the Russian Federation. All this was accompanied by loud propaganda actions of local nationalists (for example, the TOTs-Tatar Public Center), who, upon a signal from the Kazan Kremlin, organized speeches to demonstrate to Moscow mass discontent and readiness to "arrange a second Chechnya." And Moscow believed and was afraid, and is still afraid, following the lead of the local elite. We will hardly know what the Shaimiev projects like the 1000th anniversary of Kazan and the Universiade 2013 cost Russia. And on the nose is the 2018 FIFA World Cup.
But behind the struggle for their own exclusiveness and the "revival of national identity" control over pseudo-religious movements and organizations, which quickly felt comfortable and safe in Tatarstan, was completely lost. And now no one in Tataria can say for sure how many mosques and prayer houses of different caliber there are, how many currents and sects live in them, and even more so, how many followers.
But now no one there wants to admit their mistakes and miscalculations (in fact, in Tajikistan, the leadership has not changed for 20 years). Feigned surprise at what is happening and questions like: "Who did it ??? !!!" demonstrate that today's Tatarstan elite is not ready to recognize the scale of the problem and, moreover, to eradicate it. This means that the activation of radical manifestations in the republic is inevitable in the near future.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: vlad0

And Moscow believed and was afraid, and is still afraid, following the lead of the local elite.

It's not about fear. Bend the local elite for five minutes. The culture of small nations is raised as opposed to Russian culture, which is spreading rotten on the contrary, this is done purposefully, and the goal is a multicultural state.

[FormerMariman]

No direct intervention needed! It is enough to certify all the Muslim clergymen of Tatarstan (all without exception from the rural mosque to the main Kazan), in this way to separate the flies from the cutlets with their own hands! The Russian Muftiate should prohibit non-passing certification to occupy the corresponding dignity (respectively, to engage in any religious activity).

[RPD]

those muslims, not those muslims, one ..... they support each other, some are smiling, others are fighting, and someone is setting fire .... there is no faith for you

[RPD]

what did we have from the Turks and have ??? what to be friends with them ???? you can’t re-educate the beast

[n-kama]

what kind of atrocities? it is necessary to fight with such a manifestation of extremism, fight fiercely so that they would not dare to raise their heads

[Kazan]

COMPATRIOTS! What are you discussing? The burning of churches .... on Sunday December 01 of this year, an imam from Kazan took part in Solovyov's program. Who watched, remember his statement? Arsons occurred, but after fires flew over the fence towards the mosques. So that's it! Apparently this is in revenge for the fireworks. What else can you discuss? And please note that only one imam was invited and no one else, especially from the side of the church minister! Why would he suddenly start arguing and God forbid demanding proof that someone threw fireworks! So after all, they can suddenly shut their mouths. BUT DO NOT SHUT UP! In Tataria, they burn not only churches, but have been exterminating RUSSIAN families for a long time, and all this is under the "roof", and simply refusing to investigate crimes against the Russians, the Prosecutor's Office, the Investigative Committee, the UFSSP, the administration of Tatarstan. For the PROOF, see Yu-Tube "Vyacheslav Vladimirovich Mamzikov" and the Russified translation into "Vyacheslav Mamzikov" and always with comments. See how friends are shot, family members are killed, property is robbed ... Horde habits. Eight years of bullying .... NOT FORGIVING !!!!!