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What is the reason for such a pitiable demographic state of the Russian people?

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What is the reason for such a deplorable demographic state of the Russian people, although relatively recently, with historical point of view, was our people one of the healthiest and fastest growing on the planet? Many researchers, especially those who are critical of the Soviet period in the history of the Fatherland, say that it is a matter of political and socio-economic disasters that fell to Russia in the first half of the 20th century. Indeed, the First World War, the 1917 revolution of the year, civil war and intervention, a big wave of emigration from Russia, red, white and green terror, two big famines, the Great Patriotic War claimed tens of millions of lives. Indirect losses, taking into account the unborn citizens of Russia - even higher.


As a result, researchers, admiring the “old Russia”, the Russian empire, seeing the ideal in it, accuse the Soviet authorities and the Soviet system of the fact that it was he who destroyed the Russian village (collectivization and disclosure), drove people to the cities (urbanization and industrialization). After 1917, a “mine” was laid on the Russian birth rate and family institution. In particular, in Russia, the first in the world to legalize abortion, abolished the church marriage, pushed people into extramarital cohabitation, liberalized divorce. Killing children is no longer a sin. Part of the Bolsheviks (the “Trotskyists”) generally proposed to abolish the family institution. The USSR in the years of NEP was overwhelmed by the first wave of the sexual revolution. Under Stalin, abortion was banned, but after his death was allowed again. In addition, industrialization and the growing role of women in society have undermined the housewife’s institution. Women were not up to the children. As a result, the country lost the year for 1920 to 2010 only because of abortions, according to estimates by the Director of the Institute for Demographic Studies Igor Beloborodov, about 240 million lives. This first led to a fall in the birth rate, and then an excess of mortality over the birth rate. Therefore, researchers conclude that it is the Soviet civilization that is to blame for the current demographic problem in Russia.

Obviously, the two geopolitical disasters that Russia experienced in 1917-1920 and 1941-1945 bore a serious blow to Russian demography. Russia has missed millions of people. However, it is obvious that this is not only the case. For example, in 1944-1945, during the war years, the birth rate in the country was higher than in recent years, rather well-fed and calm. Yes, and the population in the USSR is constantly growing. Thus, it can be said that, despite all the problems, the Soviet system cannot be blamed for undermining the demographics of the nation. Although in the late Soviet period there were already serious negative trends. This was due to the degeneration of the Soviet system, the party nomenclature, which eventually led to the collapse of the USSR. It is obvious that the problem of fertility is not connected with the Soviet system.

Thus, in the Russian Federation a significant part of the Soviet achievements was destroyed. Russia in 1991 experienced a third geopolitical catastrophe in the 20th century. In the economic sphere, capitalism was restored. In the spiritual sphere, the Christian church, Islamic organizations and other religious structures received complete freedom. Other attributes of “free Russia” have also returned. However, in the field of morality and demography, modern Russia shows much worse indicators than Soviet civilization.



Other researchers say that The demographic crisis in Russia is associated with the so-called “white civilization” crisis as a whole. At the beginning of the 20th century, it seemed that white Europe, Russia and the United States would be the eternal leaders of the planet. Western civilization almost completely controlled humanity. Europeans controlled Latin America through finance and economics. Almost all of Africa and Asia were divided into colonies and spheres of influence. Huge India, with the inclusion of modern Pakistan and Bangladesh, was a colony of Great Britain. Decentralized China was a semi-colony, with decaying, corrupt central and local authorities, a dependent economy. The Ottoman Empire, the Islamic world as a whole, was under the control of the Western powers. Only Russia was an autocratic (sovereign) power, but it was, though special, but part of the “white world”. Economically, scientifically and technologically, Europe has become so detached from the rest of the world that the alignment of the development of individual regions of the planet seemed unthinkable.

The dominance of the white race rested on a solid demographic foundation. In 1900, the population of Europe numbered 408 million, in North America lived 82 million people (the Europeans had full numerical superiority over Native Americans - "red"), and in Africa - 133 million people. In 2000, Africa already overtook Europe: Europeans - 727 million, in Africa - 795 million. And the gap was rapidly growing: already in 2005, the Europeans - 724 million, Africans - 887 million. To date, the population of Europe has grown by several million people, and the population of Africa is already more than 1 billion people. The population of other regions of the planet - Central and South America, Asia is growing rapidly.

At the beginning of the 20th century, the share of the European population in the global percentage was 25%, and taking into account the populated mainly by Europeans and their descendants by territories - 36%. Thus, the white race was more than a third of the world's population. The Russian Empire, as already noted in the first article on the subject of demography (Demographic problem as a threat to Russian civilization), was the third region on the planet in terms of population, second only to China and India. Over the course of a century, a demographic change has taken place, and the share of Europeans in the world has halved. In the future, according to experts, the share of Europeans in the global population will continue to decline. Demographic statistics show that while all of Africa, almost all of Asia, all of America, Australia and Oceania, continue to grow, in most European countries, as well as in Russia and Japan, the indigenous population continues to decline.

The demographic crisis has covered Europe in the second half of the XX century. Moreover, its consequences were felt by both the Catholic and Protestant countries, and the Orthodox, both economically developed, representing the “core” of the capitalist system, and peripheral states. The first wave of demographic crisis has covered the countries of the Old World. After the collapse of the USSR and the socialist bloc, the countries of Eastern Europe and the Slavic republics of the Soviet Union were in the worst position. In Russia, even appeared the terrible term “Russian cross”, meaning low birth rate and high mortality. The fertility rate, that is, the ratio of the number of women of childbearing age and children, has dropped below 1,5, and for the reproduction of the population, the coefficient 2,1-2,2 is required. A very difficult demographic situation in Northern Europe: in Germany, Sweden, Norway and Finland.

The main reason for the failure in the field of demography, as a rule, is called the so-called. the effect of a “demographic transition” when a transition from an agrarian to an industrial society occurs. Indeed, statistics say that in the 20th century, as urbanization increased, the reproduction rate of the population decreased. It is proved that the townspeople prefer to start no more than 1-2 children, that is, the urban population is not self-replicating. The housing issue, parental employment, high external pressure, lack of time - all this undermines the process of childbearing. In addition, experts pay attention to the factor of alcoholism. Stresses of the urban lifestyle lead to an increase in the consumption of alcohol and other drug addicts. All this leads to an increase in mortality. Experts even found a direct link between the increase in the level of alcohol consumption and the increase in mortality. Alcohol leads to an increase in mortality in a number of indicators, from cardiovascular diseases to injuries, death due to accidents, domestic homicides, etc. At the same time, the life expectancy of men, who are the main consumers of alcohol, decreases (especially this difference between men and women). was noticeable before). This is especially evident in large cities. So, at present, the share of the urban population is 74%. And the trend towards the growth of megacities and the reduction of rural settlements continues to gain momentum. It is believed that adverse demographic changes begin at a time when the share of the urban population in the country rises to 60%. Thus, if this theory is correct, then about 40% of the country's citizens should live in the countryside.

At the same time, opponents of the theory of urbanization as the main culprit of the demographic crisis of the “white civilization” cite as an example a number of interesting facts that are not well combined with this theory. So, the UK as a whole went through the process of urbanization by the middle of the XIX century. There, the peasantry was actually destroyed as a class. However, the natural population growth there continued along with the active colonization of other regions of the planet for more than a century. In Russia, urbanization reached the current level in Soviet times, but in the USSR the population grew until the collapse of the state. It did not prevent a high degree of urbanization and the rapid growth of the population of Argentina and Brazil, the largest Latin American countries. So, in 2008, 86% of the Brazilian population was urban. The country's population is growing rapidly: 1980 year - 122 million people, 1990 year - 151 million, 2000 - 175 million, now - more than 200 million people. The forecast for 2030 year - 222 million. In Argentina, 92% is the urban population. The population is growing rapidly: in 2001, there were 36,2 million people, in 2010 - 40,4 million people. A similar picture can be seen in Uruguay: the urban population is 92%, the population is constantly growing. In addition, we can note the growth of the urban population and large cities in many countries of the world, but at the same time their population is also growing. Thus, urbanization cannot be called the main reason for the extinction of the white race.

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  1. Strashila
    Strashila 2 December 2013 07: 35
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    All the wars affected the Russian people ... the last decade of Soviet power, the Russian people prevailed in highly intellectual and high-tech industries ... which gave a high income and a guarantee of the future, for the last twenty years the country has been dropped to the level after the civil war of the last century. Migration policy, with millions the state is striving to invite unemployed its citizens millions of times large millions of streibreikher ... selecting the last opportunity to earn their citizens.
    The Russians have always survived due to the quality of their future generation, and not the quantity of anything insignificant descendants ... everything, as in nature ... it is the degenerate species that follow the path of quantity, not quality of offspring.
    Migrants are a slowed-down bomb of degeneration ... in which country people are disabled with intelligence ... and there it’s just differently, they clearly showed it under the Soviet regime ... now it’s completely uncontrolled.
    Give the future to your people ... and it will begin to grow numerically.
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 2 December 2013 08: 20
      11
      Absolutely noticed - pure biology and nothing more. If rats are many times more than humans, this does not mean that Rattus norvegicus will supplant Homo sapiens. The biosphere is too small to fit an unlimited number of dominant species, and nature is smart enough. Therefore, it is not worth worrying strongly about the number of Caucasians - we dominate qualitatively. But the decline in our quality superiority cannot be allowed in any way, and this depends on us ourselves.
      1. Kolya
        Kolya 2 December 2013 10: 12
        +6
        As for quality superiority: when a person enters an urbanized environment, this person. subconsciously shifts from quantitative to high-quality reproduction, since he feels that only “better” children will receive an advantage in survival in conditions of dense population and high competition. Comparing different countries by analyzing the effect of urbanization, as the author of the article does, is absolutely incorrect, since the effects of confounding factors and the effect of modifiers are ignored (for example: the effect of the culture of the people on the issue of childbirth, religion (position of a woman), government policy (legislation stimulating fertility), income level, wars, confidence in the future, etc.). If we compare, then we need the urban and rural population in one separate country, for example, the number of children in families.
        As for the Russian problem, this is like the principle of Anna Karenina: happy families are all the same, but each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. There is no one reason, there is a complex of problems, and in order to be a plus, you need to solve them all. Problems: a small part of the rural population (and statistics do not tell the truth because many young people living in the village do not see the prospect of staying in the village. And positioning yourself is more important than physical presence), lack of resources, inequality (a very serious problem!). These are basic.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 10: 54
          +3
          Thus, urbanization cannot be called the main cause of the extinction of the white race.
          Here it’s a little wrong to cite the example of a country of Western civilization. the Russian mentality is very different from the western. From time immemorial in Russia, the birth rate in the village was higher, and the city has always been a minus in terms of birth rate. What in Peter's times, as now. Rural youth, not all, but pronounced passionarity, always sought to the city, to dream, to glory. Lomonosov, Zhukovsky, Gagarin, etc. were village boys.hi
          1. DimychDV
            DimychDV 2 December 2013 14: 46
            0
            And this one, like her - well, that asks to let her go to the Himalayas - also from the hinterland, she sings - I was born in Siberia!
            But in patriarchal times, peasants traveled to the city, and in ours - the good girls and the ladies are beautiful.
        2. Starina_hank
          Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 00
          +3
          It's simple: we take 2 test tubes, bacteria multiply in one, but not in the other, well, at least crack it! Why? The tubes are the same, the corks are the same, but the effect is the opposite! It's just that in one test tube there are conditions for reproduction, and in the other not! A vivid example: a young family, both have "in-demand" professions. He is a young engineer, she is a foreman. The salary is 15 tr. and 10, respectively, there is no apartment, help from parents for various, even valid reasons, is insufficient. Who can be born in such conditions and lope? And in the village it is even cooler, from the benefits of civilization there is only electricity, to the regional center 10-15-20 versts in some places off-road, there is also a doctor, and police, and "culture". She is on the farm, he gets an average of 10. Are there children?
    2. 225chay
      225chay 2 December 2013 08: 23
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      Quote: Strashila
      For the last twenty years, the country has been thrown back to the level after the civil war of the last century. Migration policy, with millions of unemployed citizens, the state seeks to invite millions of times as large millions of streibreikhers ... selecting the last opportunity to earn money for their citizens.

      Probably from the time of Gorbachev’s perestroika for a decade, the authorities have been pursuing a policy of slander, trampling into the mud, and humiliation of the indigenous, mostly Slavic people ... And at the same time, the uncontrolled migration of millions from Asia encouraged by the authorities ...
      What is it, freeing up space for the arrival of new meek Asian slaves who will serve those in power for a handful of rice?
      But then is this a hidden genocide of the indigenous population or am I mistaken?
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 December 2013 09: 30
        11
        All these are acts of the perestroika bastards.
      2. DimychDV
        DimychDV 2 December 2013 14: 46
        +2
        And you think for yourself, hidden or explicit. Will it be an answer? The exploiters are not interested in nationality. They will cut out one another - he will bring new slaves to these same huts. Those will not have to pay at all ...
    3. yurii p
      yurii p 2 December 2013 09: 43
      +3
      "The Russians have always survived at the expense of quality" .... what kind of Cossacks, who in the Voronezh region do not blame stupidity, the Cossacks ended in a civil war, and now they are mummers who exist only to make money, an example of the Cossacks of the Vornezh region.http: // www .onlineon.ru / 2013-02-12 / article / 7563 / here's a link, and recently the chief ecologist and chieftain of the Cossacks were arrested for extortion from companies that conduct geological exploration in the region, were detained red-handed with tens of millions, why are they better than the extortionist bandits and it is not necessary to stir up the nats.rozn this is not a nationalist site, but a site of the country's patriots.
      1. rereture
        rereture 2 December 2013 10: 07
        +3
        In Strashila's Comment nothing is said about the Cossacks. Read carefully, it says quality.
      2. Small Saturn
        Small Saturn 2 December 2013 13: 42
        +4
        I do not agree with you about the Cossacks "who exist only to profit ..".
        And the whole story with the red-handed arrest during the transfer of money ... and then the detention of the Cossack ... all this is somehow well adjusted. Like, "here they are the defenders of Khopr, they also covered up." In general, it smells like a setup, I would even say it stinks.
        1.This guy with glasses who is an ecologist or whoever he is, is not such a navel of the earth to prohibit building or exploration of something there, he can write as much as he wants to the authorities ... but there is no prohibition! He extorted money, they say, is he "walking" ?! If he cannot impose a sanction or seriously annoy him with compromising evidence - what kind of extortion he is !? How to extort something?))). That's the problem.
        2. A Cossack with money is sitting on the bus, so what !? He just made an offer from which he could not refuse. So to say "either-or".
        This is my subjective opinion.
        Those guys who are behind the development of nickel in our area just like that will not refuse this tidbit. It has long been rumored that theoretically this nickel was simply heaped up with us, but it is very difficult to get it (too deep) but possible. So they came, it’s not necessary to carry Norilsk with a steamboat-motor ship, the climate is again more comfortable, everything is close by. And people, what are people? Who thinks about them, about people. They will be as they are, but they will not be in any way!
        And I won’t believe that it’s for the benefit of the state, production will go and people will fix and build everything, slave. they will give places, I won’t believe that they will be mined by the most-most environmentally friendly methods, I won’t believe that they will not cause harm to nature / people. It will cost a pretty penny, and no one knows what the return will be, that's all. And it will be like in the North, only there is the tundra, and then villages and cities. I believe that he can lie until better times this nickel))).
        Regarding the "Cossacks in the Voronezh region", the phenomenon is not quite usual for our region, well, these innovations that appeared in the early 90s as "the revival of the Cossacks" I do not take - this is a separate conversation.
        At the turn of the XlX-XX centuries before WWI and Civil War, many would be surprised at this phrase. I cannot say that there were no Cossacks at that time on the territory of the province, this is a delusion, but the fact that they constituted a significant part of the population and "here is the Cossack land" is even more untrue. At that time, they made up a small percentage of the population, and then mainly the descendants of the Zaporozhians inhabiting the south-west of the region, who did not even attribute themselves to the Cossacks. If we talk about the Don Cossacks, then their share in the population of the province was even less (we are talking about purely Cossack settlements of both the Don and the descendants of the Zaporozhye Cossacks), tk. By this time, the territory of the Don Cossacks' residence was already clearly marked, and they clearly carried out the division "friend or foe". By the way, Sholokhov wrote about this in "Quiet Don". Cossacks even frightened the local population if a semblance of an uprising or riot was brewing, apparently they were used by the state as a military force to pacify the rebels. The old people told me about this. Therefore, in our places (the south of the region) they were openly disliked, but they went to hunger and laborers "to the Don region," so to speak. But all this was still in the "Russian Empire" and in the "revolutionary" time before collectivization. So those Cossacks who have appeared with us now, I don't know WHAT are these Cossacks? True, I don't know, maybe real ones ...
        1. DimychDV
          DimychDV 2 December 2013 15: 00
          +1
          The Union of Cossacks of Russia is like a public organization, supports old traditions, way of life, educates its own in the spirit ... and so on. But the registry somehow more focused on cash income. Well, they earn - and thank God, if only the customers - summer residents or garage workers - were satisfied. But, sometimes it is audible, and they have a hope to get to budget funds. I did not delve deeply, but I think that budget support is needed in educational Cossack programs - and in settlement ones. Moreover, militarily, state policy in relations with the Cossacks should be clearly structured. And every Cossack establishment - with hard-earned money!
      3. DimychDV
        DimychDV 2 December 2013 14: 53
        +3
        That's it. From the point of view of the peasant and the working man, today the Cossack is a burdened loafer, mainly from retirees and other security officials. By the way, for the hard worker and small entrepreneur, stripped of bribes and taxes, all these structures, including the army, are the same burials. Only a Cossack can even go with shafts - he is still outlawed, but you will not go for sovereign people very much.
    4. Civil
      Civil 2 December 2013 09: 49
      +1
      The composition of land mapping has changed many times,
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 2 December 2013 11: 26
        +1
        Let's start with the main thing - in nature there is no such thing
        Quote: Strashila
        as in nature ... it is degenerate species that follow the path of quantity, not quality of offspring.

        the quality in nature of living organisms is due to natural selection, the quantity is by the capabilities of the host landscape and the amount of food.
        With regard to demography, the listed factors (politics, economics, wars, etc.) play a role in demography, but there is one more factor, ethnogenesis. Anyone interested in this aspect, I advise you to get acquainted with the works of L.N. Gumeleva, especially "Ethnogenesis and the biosphere of the earth"
      2. bazilio
        bazilio 2 December 2013 11: 26
        0
        Let's start with the main thing - in nature there is no such thing
        Quote: Strashila
        as in nature ... it is degenerate species that follow the path of quantity, not quality of offspring.

        the quality in nature of living organisms is due to natural selection, the quantity is by the capabilities of the host landscape and the amount of food.
        With regard to demography, the listed factors (politics, economics, wars, etc.) play a role in demography, but there is one more factor, ethnogenesis. Anyone interested in this aspect, I advise you to get acquainted with the works of L.N. Gumeleva, especially "Ethnogenesis and the biosphere of the earth"
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 2 December 2013 13: 18
          +1
          Quote: bazilio
          in nature there is no such thing
          Exactly. Why would a fish or a fly be called a "degenerate species"? They will also survive our species. According to this logic, the elephant has the highest quality offspring, because there is only one elephant, and people have several twins. And how can you compare the quality of fly and human offspring? You can talk about fertile animals and animals adapting ...
    5. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 2 December 2013 20: 31
      0
      Yes, not the future is needed, but the present. If there are no conditions for the birth of children now, tomorrow it will be too late to create these conditions. Now there’s nowhere for young people to live, and a man often can’t feed his wife and child for his salary. And this is a moronic allowance for giving birth to 2 children, which often creates more problems than help? In my meager minds, children should be born of love, and not in order to increase material wealth. The desire of the leadership of our state to increase the population is absolutely not visible, and the hell needs this growth when there is nothing to occupy the existing people with?
      1. iConst
        iConst 2 December 2013 22: 03
        0
        Quote: Starina_Hank
        a man often cannot feed his wife and child for his salary

        Well, stop lying. Man always feed his wife and children. But it is unclear who, who wants everything to fall from the sky and at the same time sit around to drive toys - for sure, he will not be able to.
        He will whine and refer to problems.

        I don’t like Amerikos - but I can’t take it away - my paws rustle when necessary. There are several acquaintances.

        And the "Russians", it turns out, have degenerated, since they can only cry ...
  2. Edward
    Edward 2 December 2013 08: 02
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    The demographic crisis is easy to explain: there is no strength to feed the family.
    The people are barely making ends meet.
    That’s the whole truth.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 2 December 2013 08: 23
      +2
      ... by taking loans, and trying to live "no worse than others", like on TV. Who does not want to look for reasons. recourse
      1. Edward
        Edward 2 December 2013 08: 49
        +2
        How many children do you have?
        1. Kolya
          Kolya 2 December 2013 09: 39
          -5
          Ask your wives if they know the exact time of their ovulation. Women, unlike all females of other species without exception, do not know the time of their ovulation! God hid it from them! What a woman wants, God just does not want!
      2. sergey32
        sergey32 2 December 2013 08: 54
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        Wealthy citizens are also not particularly fertile. The other day I was talking to one. At first, my wife and I developed a business, it was not up to the children, she had several abortions. Now she can’t get pregnant, as she learns that one of the acquaintances in a position begins a tantrum. You have to pay for everything.
        Strength, the core in many people have disappeared. They can not resist the difficulties. Of course, it is easier to have an abortion than to strain later. 240 million killed Russian unborn children, Hitler never dreamed of. The main enemies themselves. I don’t understand why the alarm is not heard from the Russian Orthodox Church, where is the weighty word of the shepherd?
        1. Dejavu
          Dejavu 2 December 2013 10: 22
          0
          And what's the point? Juvenile baits as having been in contact with 14 years and aborted, and continue this business. A shepherd, even with a tambourine around the dance, will not attract them.
          1. sergey32
            sergey32 2 December 2013 10: 49
            +9
            And where do parents look at these blankets? Abortion should be prohibited except for medical evidence. Flew in, let him give birth. She will not bring up foster parents. An innocent child cannot be deprived of the right to life.
            1. Dejavu
              Dejavu 2 December 2013 11: 56
              +2
              Parents are sometimes quite adequate people. You see, many parents do not even suspect that their "sweetheart daughter" already knows that and how, only she did not know that this could lead to children. Both the upbringing of these individuals and the educational side suffer. In schools, this topic is not discussed with children. At least as far as I know, but I know a lot in this regard.
              1. Starina_hank
                Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 08
                +2
                At the last parental meeting, we were informed that the school is no longer involved in the education of students, and is not responsible for their behavior.
            2. Lapotnik
              Lapotnik 2 December 2013 15: 06
              +2
              First of all, it is necessary to ban contraceptives advertising, as well as clean up the media broadcasts.

              This is a complex problem, and not only financially, legislatively, but first of all morally it is necessary to correct the situation. The basis of the problem is in the heads, internal moral standards.

              Remember the famous phrase - in the USSR there is no sex! Everyone was laughing ... But that was the birth rate.
              And now everyone knows about sex, they are engaged from a young age, but there is no birth ... Many probably remember how in high school they interpreted the charm of non-binding relationships, distributed contraceptives, and so on. etc....


              The desired children, the future oprah of parents, the homeland and the state are born of love and love. IMHO.
            3. Russlana
              Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 19
              +1
              Are you kidding me? TV, radio, Internet, cheap little books - everything says that it is NECESSARY to fuck. From 10 years old. And the more partners, the better. The Church rejects the commandments as well, supposedly obscurantists. But then they start to cry, how so? How did my child grow so much?
        2. Russlana
          Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 17
          +1
          The alarm rings. Who needs to hear. Church against abortion, did not hear? Only the Church still claims that abortion is murder. And only the Church says that the child is ALIVE from the moment of conception.
        3. iConst
          iConst 2 December 2013 16: 32
          +2
          Quote: sergey32
          Wealthy citizens are also not particularly fertile. The other day I was talking to one. At first, my wife and I developed a business, it was not up to the children, she had several abortions. Now she can’t get pregnant, as she learns that one of the acquaintances in a position begins a tantrum. You have to pay for everything.
          Strength, the core in many people have disappeared. They can not resist the difficulties. Of course, it is easier to have an abortion than to strain later. 240 million killed Russian unborn children, Hitler never dreamed of. The main enemies themselves. I don’t understand why the alarm is not heard from the Russian Orthodox Church, where is the weighty word of the shepherd?

          There is only one reason - EGO to the highest degree. People have changed values ​​and goals. The white nation must leave, as it violated the Law of Nature. And for this punishment is the highest.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 2 December 2013 20: 12
            +1
            Quote: iConst
            The white nation must leave, as it violated the Law of Nature. And for this punishment is the highest.
            What are you, like Negro African American? And if not, then why is such gloating?
            1. iConst
              iConst 2 December 2013 21: 56
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              Are you like a black African American? And if not, then why is such gloating?

              Well, hello, my offended American guest.
              This topic shouldn’t even f ... you, sorry, concern ...
              Sit yourself in the states and sit what to meddle with.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 2 December 2013 22: 20
                -1
                Quote: iConst
                Quote: Nagan
                What are you, like Negro African American? And if not, then why is such gloating?

                Well, hello, my offended American guest.
                This topic shouldn’t even f ... you, sorry, concern ...
                Sit yourself in the states and sit what to meddle with.

                You may not believe me, but me "for power hurt"*. Although from a purely material point of view, as you correctly noted, I "this topic should not f ..., sorry, touch". But, believe me, not everything is measured in bucks.


                * © Luspekaev as Vereshchagin
                1. iConst
                  iConst 2 December 2013 22: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Nagan
                  You may not believe me, but I am "sorry for the state" *. Although from a purely material point of view, as you rightly noted, "this topic should not e ..., sorry, concern me." But, believe me, not everything is measured in dollars.


                  * © Luspekaev as Vereshchagin

                  Uh, e ... for the power ... Let's better talk about the abstract - there are enough snot.

                  In what state are they warmed up?
        4. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 2 December 2013 22: 36
          +1
          Quote: sergey32
          I don’t understand why the alarm is not heard from the Russian Orthodox Church, where is the weighty word of the shepherd?

          And try to say a word to the Church, it will "fly in" a hundred in response. Even here on the site, as soon as an article appears about the church's view, a bunch of "critics" will immediately draw up with comments like: "What do the priests need here, sit in churches and preach there."
      3. Russlana
        Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 16
        0
        Does television broadcast broadcasts from another planet? Who is planting this damn cult of consumption? Martians, apparently ...
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 21: 33
          0
          Political Correspondent West, irresistibly striving for Muslim submission
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 2 December 2013 09: 15
      +9
      Quote: Edward
      The people are barely making ends meet
      And in Afghanistan and India they live so richly ... Compare Moscow and the North Caucasus, and your ends will definitely not meet.
      1. Dejavu
        Dejavu 2 December 2013 10: 23
        +2
        And in Afghanistan and India they live so richly ... Compare Moscow and the North Caucasus, and your ends will definitely not meet.

        5 points smile
      2. Lapotnik
        Lapotnik 2 December 2013 14: 44
        +4
        We compared the ass to the finger. The level and way of life still compare, the quality of the same life. In Afghanistan, India, so many give birth so that at least one later helps in old age, taking into account mortality and so on. etc. In China, and in all Asian countries, this is exactly how they give birth so that at least someone will take care of them in old age, and they have a gulkin's nose. In the UK there is support for clans and families, if you do not "enter", ass to your family, aul the ultimate dream. Or a trip to us here, one hell of nothing to lose.

        By the way, China, in order to develop efficiently, and not spend all its energy on feeding biomass, legally limited the birth of children to a family, and only now this law was removed.

        And by the way - take an interest in what is the dependence of birth rates in families on income levels in India, Afghanistan, and so on. etc.

        PS It’s easy to get used to good things, but to refuse - to hell. Put you in conditions of India, North Caucasus, Afghanistan - looking at what you spawn there.
        1. Edward
          Edward 2 December 2013 22: 21
          +2
          You are completely right, I will just add a couple of strokes.
          About the birth rate in Afghanistan - I will not say. Just as no one will say this, for there is no information. I can only guess what is unsweetened there, since poppy fields, which used to be rice, wheat, carrot and all kinds of other food fields, will not soon return to natural crops.
          About India.
          There, a stick gives a crop twice a year), as in China.
          About Chechnya (or as the North Caucasus is customary to say) - I'm sorry, any region of the Russian Federation with such subsidies, no taxes, lowered loans will flourish. Plus also fraternity, etc. in the form of financial jihad - tax collection from everyone, and a simple gop-stop.
          .........................

          Children, who among you personally have many children, are there such?
          1. montemor
            montemor 3 December 2013 05: 33
            0
            two, is that a lot? laughing
      3. Russlana
        Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 21
        -1
        Yes, just compare the percentage of believers here and there and in our country. That’s the whole story.
    3. Dejavu
      Dejavu 2 December 2013 10: 11
      +9
      I know more than one rich family. They have a maximum of 2 children. More often 1. Ends with ends are of course important, but the root cause is more likely in the lifestyle of modern people, or rather in their desire to live carefree rather than in the financial component. Children fit into the concept of "carefree" with a creak.
      1. Airman
        Airman 2 December 2013 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: dejavu
        I know more than one rich family. They have a maximum of 2 children. More often 1. Ends with ends are of course important, but the root cause is more likely in the lifestyle of modern people, or rather in their desire to live carefree rather than in the financial component. Children fit into the concept of "carefree" with a creak.

        Not with a creak, but with a baby cry, even at night.
      2. Russlana
        Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 21
        -1
        Fine, to the point.
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 December 2013 16: 35
        0
        Quote: dejavu
        Children fit into the concept of "carefree" with a creak.

        Only if there is a lack of confidence in the future.
        1. Dejavu
          Dejavu 2 December 2013 16: 52
          +2
          Nothing like this. My good friend is very confident in the future, getting about 150t.r. month, while working for show, only to not sit at home. One child she does not want to think more. To give birth?! Stretch marks, sleepless nights, genitalia tear / Caesar, do not go anywhere properly, again diapers, bottles, a mess .... well, what the hell ...

          And what does confidence in tomorrow have to do with it?
      4. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 18
        0
        And where will the rich rebel children? Tomorrow they can either plant or God forbid bang, that’s not giving birth, not life, but sheer stress!
      5. Edward
        Edward 2 December 2013 22: 01
        0
        How many children do you have?
    4. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 2 December 2013 12: 00
      +4
      Quote: Edward
      The demographic crisis is easy to explain: there is no strength to feed the family.
      The people are barely making ends meet.
      That’s the whole truth.

      And who and when reckoned with people?
    5. Russlana
      Russlana 2 December 2013 16: 15
      -1
      Absolutely right.
    6. alone
      alone 2 December 2013 20: 44
      +3
      Quote: Edward
      The demographic crisis is easy to explain: there is no strength to feed the family.
      The people are barely making ends meet.
      That’s the whole truth.


      alcohol and drugs can be added to this. Look at the statistics of deaths between the ages of 14-29 and you will understand that it is youth who are specifically destroyed.
      1. Edward
        Edward 2 December 2013 22: 40
        0
        I am already at that age when, instead of statistics, you can look into your memory. You are terribly right.
  3. shpuntik
    shpuntik 2 December 2013 08: 09
    11
    Thus, urbanization cannot be called the main cause of the extinction of the white race.

    Here you can get confused about the reasons. School mathematics: fewer than three children in a family - there is a decrease in the population.
    The truth, tested over centuries, the commandments of God: be fruitful and multiply.
    Who is a Christian? This is the warrior of Christ. Who is he fighting against?
    "Our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against the spirits of wickedness in heaven" (Eph. 6,12).

    Temptations come through people: traders in alcohol, drugs, women. A person should know from childhood what awaits him. In the Union, atheists, weaned us to think, to understand the nature of things, we forgot to understand the economy.
    Let me cite literature and poetry as an example: the "golden" (Pushkin) age, "silver", "bronze" (Soviet), "wooden" (post-Soviet). We can see on what soil what has grown.

    1. alone
      alone 2 December 2013 20: 50
      +2
      Golden words. All that remains is to take off his hat to the priest hi
  4. Neighbor
    Neighbor 2 December 2013 08: 10
    +2
    Russians simply do not see a decent future for their children.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 December 2013 09: 12
      -3
      Well why, there is one future. Almost from early childhood, my parents said to me "Study well, you will be an intelligent specialist. Learn languages ​​to easily communicate with foreigners. And at the slightest opportunity, dump abroad!" In Soviet times, no one thought about this.
      1. Kolovrat77
        Kolovrat77 2 December 2013 09: 38
        +7
        Quote: Greenwood
        And dump abroad at the slightest opportunity!


        Yes, good upbringing, Mr. Greenewood, but what about you on the next branch telling what kind of radish Vladimir Putin, with such upbringing, how can you believe? Or maybe you are running a dickhead? AND?
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 2 December 2013 16: 57
          +1
          Quote: Kolovrat77
          good upbringing
          I can't complain about upbringing. Of course, I listened to my parents, but I also drew my own conclusions. Perhaps my idea was misunderstood, so I'll make a reservation: I have never agitated anyone to leave. I myself am NOT planning to go anywhere yet. I still love my hometown, where everything is so dear, familiar from childhood. Native hills, sea, Japanese cars, cruiser "Varyag" at the embankment.
          Quote: Kolovrat77
          Or maybe you are running a dickhead? AND?
          Be careful with expressions next time.
          1. Kolovrat77
            Kolovrat77 2 December 2013 17: 16
            -1
            The next time will not be because I have nothing to talk about with you. If I were describing my city, I would never have inserted into the descriptions how I love geliki and beshki, and this already says a lot. Good luck.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 9 December 2013 17: 06
              0
              For Vladivostok, the auto industry is of much greater importance than for other cities. It is one of the pillars of the city's economy, and one of the associations that arise when the city is mentioned. You don't need to be so painful about it.
    2. Armata
      Armata 2 December 2013 09: 49
      10
      Quote: Neighbor
      Russians simply do not see a decent future for their children.
      And what do you think is a decent future? Chasing the dough? Rags for Ntsi thousand, so as not worse than others? My senior proudly puts on his uniform in the morning and goes to the academy, although our family is by no means rich.
      1. Neighbor
        Neighbor 2 December 2013 11: 00
        +6
        I used to go to work with pride; I worked as a welder. And now there is nowhere to work, except for a bourgeois for a cheap price. And then you have to pay more for a welder in the Pension Fund, register as a mechanic. But for 6 thousand it is better as a watchman than in a specialty.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 11: 07
        +7
        Quote: Mechanic
        Chasing the money? Clothes for twenty thousand, so as not worse than others?

        This is what the majority of young people think. In our zomboyaschiku other ideals are not shown. Our government would not hurt to learn from the Chinese, talk shows and many other things were banned there, and no one in the West squeals about violations of freedom of speech. Tales about the fact that Putin is alone, and he does not have time to do anything, have already gotten tired. No one to instruct? Nonsense, who from his entourage would risk not following a direct order? It's the same with abortion. This is all purposeful policy. am
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 21: 42
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          This is all purposeful policy



          This is a strange policy. As I do not look, so WHITE children are crossed out on all advertisements of "childfreeds".
        2. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 21: 44
          +1
          Neither black nor yellow - is this a kind of tolerance?
      3. sergey32
        sergey32 2 December 2013 11: 36
        +4
        I agree with the Mechanic, money is far from the main thing in life, although it is necessary.
        Something sad I forgot about the main thing, today my eldest daughter 18. It’s a pity I won’t see her today. In Moscow, he is studying computer security in Bauman. It is necessary to congratulate and toss money on the card. Although it came to the budget, but they didn’t give the hostel, we rent a room.
      4. Igor39
        Igor39 2 December 2013 14: 46
        +3
        They have already raised a creative class, the main consumers of grub, clothes and loans, they have no other values, it becomes already scary, but if something happens?
      5. Greenwood
        Greenwood 2 December 2013 16: 58
        0
        Quote: Mechanic
        goes to the academy
        Now imagine that one day the academy will be closed by the decree of the next Taburetkin, as it has repeatedly happened in past years.
        1. Armata
          Armata 2 December 2013 17: 01
          0
          Quote: Greenwood
          Now imagine that one day the academy will be closed by the decree of the next Taburetkin, as it has repeatedly happened in past years.
          Well, imagine. + 1500 enemies will gain VVP.
    3. Dejavu
      Dejavu 2 December 2013 10: 30
      +4
      And why not see? - now are the times of complete self-realization. A person can choose almost any profession and be wealthy. Until recently, I believed that a professional plumber is a bummer from the next doorway. But when he arrived at my house in the country in a BMW, the world was shaken in my eyes. However, the confusion was not long. Indeed, for my 80 squares, on which it was necessary to lay plastic pipes, he asked for 40.000 just for the work. I called a neighboring city, at least 60000. So there is no need to talk about an utterly dark future. Everything is fine with us, but you do not need to be an economist and a lawyer, but an engineer, a plumber or something else like that.
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 2 December 2013 11: 02
        18
        Stretch plastic pipes in your house in the village for a maximum day of work yourself. Do not mind the money? You do not know how to look in tyrnet. Previously, any man did home repairs with his own hands, his sons studied. And now what will the son’s father teach him to sit on the couch with beer?
        1. Dejavu
          Dejavu 2 December 2013 12: 03
          0
          Of course it's a pity! Yes, I would be glad to do everything myself, but it is not so easy to stretch out pipes from the folded stove with a boiler, install an expansion pipe on the roof, and even so that the system works as it should, without really having any tools or experience. But the point is different. The question is in the earnings of people who have devoted themselves to a seemingly low-prestige profession. This is all to the question of the hopeless future of our country. There are opportunities to make money in one word, there are children too.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 2 December 2013 16: 45
            +2
            Quote: dejavu
            There are opportunities to make money in one word

            Yeah - at the expense of others, and this is a pyramid, the foot of which will vegetate in poverty.
    4. iConst
      iConst 2 December 2013 22: 12
      0
      Quote: Neighbor
      Russians simply do not see a decent future for their children.

      Well, nifiga-se! So what? What thought is there, neighbor? Well then, maybe just a yadu - or is your gut thin? Why suffer something! laughing

      And what then is the meaning of being, Khvilosophist?
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 2 December 2013 08: 11
    11
    the topic without demagoguery is as clear as day, no work, no housing, people do not want to produce poverty.
    1. Skiff_spb
      Skiff_spb 2 December 2013 12: 41
      +2
      I would say so - now you are losing too much by having a child. After all, this money and time can be spent on yourself.

      And in those countries where there is nothing to lose and the birth rate is appropriate. From the principle - why not.
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 December 2013 22: 53
      +1
      Well, don't procreate. Uzbeks, Tajiks and others of the same kind will be "begetting poverty", and you will walk around the courtyards full of little Russians of "Central Asian style."
      1. corn
        corn 3 December 2013 00: 53
        0
        How many children do you personally have? We can't check it anyway.
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 2 December 2013 08: 25
    14
    nowhere to live ........ while living. you’ll earn an area, already health for conception is not enough (((
  7. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 2 December 2013 08: 35
    +4
    I agree with the authors above, it's scary to breed in modern Russia! Every sane person a thousand times should think about how to give life to a new person, a person who will be higher than his predecessors. It is scary to look at migrants who reproduce like cattle, each of their subsequent generations is not development, but degradation, but it is even more terrible to look at Russian families of alcoholics and drug addicts, procreate on the "fly" and, people, the duty of each family is not just to give birth to a child and give to educate schools, and educate him ourselves, make him a worthy member of society! In my opinion, the development of mankind is only evolution, so to speak, the desire for the stars, that is, the desire to escape from the cradle of the Earth, and the degradation of society is only the right to destroy this society!
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 2 December 2013 09: 25
      0
      Our ancestors before the revolution or during Stalin's time lived so calmly and peacefully, or were they not sane, multiplied "like cattle"? What nonsense!
    2. Dejavu
      Dejavu 2 December 2013 11: 20
      0
      What nonsense? Scary in modern Russia? I may not understand something, but why does my grandfather have 9 sisters and brothers? They lived in the village, went to school in turns - there were no shoes at all. Modern Russia is a completely normal place for the birth of children. It's just that the people live with stereotypes, and they are imposed on us, it seems to me, by force. Well, who has not heard the phrase: "produce poverty." And this is sometimes said by people who have enough income for 5 children. Yes, they will not have iPhones and not everyone will be able to enroll in ballroom dancing circles. But these will be Russian children who will love their country if they are raised as patriots. I do not understand what the groans about poor Russia are about. Sheer nonsense.
      1. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 26
        +1
        Obviously, this is written by the father of a large family. Or its theorist? Have you tried to live like this yourself?
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 2 December 2013 22: 15
          +2
          Correctly he writes everything, I have a large father (four), consider subscribed to his words.
          1. iConst
            iConst 2 December 2013 22: 35
            0
            Quote: sergey32
            Correctly he writes everything, I have a large father (four), consider subscribed to his words.

            Taking off my hat!
    3. iConst
      iConst 2 December 2013 16: 45
      0
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      I agree with the authors above, it's scary to multiply in modern Russia! Every sane person should think a thousand times how to give life to a new person,

      ABOUT! Favorite otmaza "thinkers"! What's so terrible? Nut-ka intelligibly answer, outline, so toss, the "nightmare" of new life: stock up on popcorn ...

      At the beginning of the twentieth century, five were normal in the family.

      These are very clever "thinkers" only and remained. laughing
      1. 225chay
        225chay 3 December 2013 07: 00
        0
        Quote: iConst
        At the beginning of the twentieth century, five were normal in the family.

        Before the revolution in Russian peasant families and 8-10 children were in the order of things
    4. Angry reader
      Angry reader 2 December 2013 18: 41
      +1
      Afonya, with this position, there will be more and more migrants. Nature abhors a vacuum.
  8. Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 08: 39
    +7
    When I saw the photo on the main page I thought at last that at least someone came down to the Russian village, read it ... crying .
    Generalized information about demography. I hope in subsequent articles the author will deal directly with Russian demography and the factors that influenced it. For general information +.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 2 December 2013 08: 46
      +4
      And we Germans also diminished (and not only because of the departure) Previously, the German family had 8-12 children Schia 1-2
  9. nemec55
    nemec55 2 December 2013 08: 41
    14
    The biggest misfortune of the inhabitants of Russia is the Russians, or, as in my case, the Germans of Russia and the Ukrainians of the Belarusians, the Latvians of the Kazakhs, etc., in hostility towards each other, not on a national basis, but just like that, we are angry at each other, people have no good in their eyes and actions Only a person got power so the first agenda is something spiz = t And set up your work on the channel of helping people (yes, well, not according to concepts) This is where the trouble of demography is that some do not give birth to steal, first, others do not give birth to hell from whom you will wait for help shed, as in the photo, you do not give birth to much And if you want to build a house, then you will get bogged down in a bureaucratic routine that not only give birth, but you don’t want to live.
  10. dmn2
    dmn2 2 December 2013 08: 47
    +5
    The demographic situation is bad, because For more than 20 years, genocide has been waged against our people in various forms (alcohol and tobacco, GMO + vaccinations and other drugs that do not cure, but cripple, as well as economic genocide - when demographically determined needs are satisfied according to the residual principle, but all kinds of rubbish described above - within walking distance - just reach out). There is nothing to say about life in cities, and especially in megacities - there people wither and mutate, in a bad sense of the word. Well, doctors and pharmaceutical companies do business on the unfortunate.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 2 December 2013 09: 10
      +8
      We ourselves are genocidal to abstain at not John or Hans came to us to do badly at our home-grown bastard bureaucrats Will do everything so as not to do anything
  11. dmn2
    dmn2 2 December 2013 08: 47
    0
    The demographic situation is bad, because For more than 20 years, genocide has been waged against our people in various forms (alcohol and tobacco, GMO + vaccinations and other drugs that do not cure, but cripple, as well as economic genocide - when demographically determined needs are satisfied according to the residual principle, but all kinds of rubbish described above - within walking distance - just reach out). There is nothing to say about life in cities, and especially in megacities - there people wither and mutate, in a bad sense of the word. Well, doctors and pharmaceutical companies do business on the unfortunate.
  12. Sanyht
    Sanyht 2 December 2013 08: 53
    +3
    the village is a delicate matter !!! so that the guys do not get drunk, they need to be dealt with! they must have a dream! and for this the state could, at least build normal houses for them, with all the conveniences and give all our breadwinners a jeep - free of charge (having previously confiscated cars from the dumb city * elite * ...
    1. lukke
      lukke 2 December 2013 10: 15
      +5
      Yes, half of the rural population will release all these gifts in a week immediately. The house and the jeep need to be monitored and this requires hands and money, and if the consciousness of an alcoholic, and even there is no work ... A competent policy for the development of regions is necessary.
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  13. Sanyht
    Sanyht 2 December 2013 08: 53
    0
    the village is a delicate matter !!! so that the guys do not get drunk, they need to be dealt with! they must have a dream! and for this the state could, at least build normal houses for them, with all the conveniences and give all our breadwinners a jeep - free of charge (having previously confiscated cars from the dumb city * elite * ...
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 09: 23
      +5
      Quote: Sanyht
      give all our breadwinners a jeep - free of charge (having previously confiscated the cars from the dumb city * elite * ...

      Eco you hawati ... but how will you get a not a foolish city dweller? "Take away and divide" is an insidious slogan. Moreover, those who survived in the village and live (from the able-bodied population), if not "jeeps", but "parquet flooring, our cars" are quite good.
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: Eugeniy_369
        hawati ...

        Sorry for the mistake repeat .
        .. grabbed .... wink
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 2 December 2013 10: 31
        +5
        Quote: Eugeniy_369
        "Take away and divide"

        This has already passed. For the future did not go. But it is necessary to interest the peasant. To tame world-eating bankers, and to reduce the rate (%) on loans to peasant farms, preferential taxation, or even exemption from them. Let the peasant enter the market, because now the agricultural producer is forced to hand over his goods to dealers at a ridiculous price, they will not let him into the market, the same people sit there, so to speak, who will lay down their bones, but they will not let anyone go to the trading place, charging prices 100-200%. They call it business, although there is a more precise wording-speculation. State subsidies for fuels and lubricants and agricultural machinery. Help the peasant a little and he will feed the whole country. Do not want to help, so at least do not bother, let him survive on his own. Well, something like this.
        1. Eugeniy_369
          Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 11: 27
          +3
          Quote: novobranets
          Let the peasant enter the market, because now the agricultural producer is forced to hand over his goods to dealers at a ridiculous price, they will not let him into the market, the same people sit there, so to speak, who will lay down their bones, but they will not let anyone go to the trading place, charging prices 100-200%. They call it business, although there is a more precise wording-speculation. State subsidies for fuels and lubricants and agricultural machinery. Help the peasant a little and he will feed the whole country. Do not want to help, so at least do not bother, let him survive on his own. Well, something like this.

          I agree with you. But that's just .... now the number of medium and small entrepreneurs, farms, peasant farms working on the land is very sharply reduced. There is a displacement of small ones. I think a lot of capital, the oligarchy realized that the land can bring profit, especially since all the sources of natural resources are divided and if somewhere you can snatch a "little bit of talk" then you can get it on snot.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 2 December 2013 12: 40
            +3
            Quote: Eugeniy_369
            But just .... now the number of medium and small entrepreneurs, farmers, and peasant farms working on the land is very sharply reduced.

            Unfortunately this is the case. Moreover, the crowding out of some farmers from the land is a complete crime. Threats, blackmail, arson and violence.
            1. Eugeniy_369
              Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 15: 39
              +3
              Quote: novobranets
              Unfortunately this is the case. Moreover, the crowding out of some farmers from the land is a complete crime. Threats, blackmail, arson and violence.

              I know not by hearsay, it doesn’t seem like a serious one, but
              Threats, blackmail
              is in "full volume" ... am
              1. Walker1975
                Walker1975 2 December 2013 19: 26
                +1
                And where are law enforcement agencies looking? Don’t poke a problem - long ears of corruption peep
        2. Starina_hank
          Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 29
          0
          Your words, yes to God in the ears.
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  15. sashka
    sashka 2 December 2013 08: 54
    +1
    When at the main cemetery Countries organize shows and fairs and skating rinks with suitcases .. What is it all about?
    It’s strange. Why two comments? One spare?
  16. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 2 December 2013 08: 54
    +3
    So we have long sold all of Russia to the West.
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  18. Stanislas
    Stanislas 2 December 2013 09: 03
    +2
    It is proved that the townspeople prefer to have no more than 1-2 children, that is, the urban population does not reproduce itself.
    This, to put it mildly, is not true. You can compare the birth rate statistics in a Russian or English village and in the city of Grozny or, say, in the Indian city of Delhi. Where the sexual revolution takes place, the birth rate plummets both in the city and in the countryside. In the city, the destruction of traditional norms occurs a little faster due to anonymity (people often do not know each other). Here we can distinguish two factors that lower the birth rate in comparison with traditional society: 1) freedom of sexual relations, which leads to family instability and 2) equality of partners (destruction of patriarchal relations in which the male dominates), leading to a decrease in sexual desire. Free sexual intercourse entails fear of being left without the support of a spouse with several children, contraception and abortion. The dominance-submission relationship is a condition of sexual attraction even in animals; in humans, this is noted not only by sex therapists, but also by sociologists who compare groups with traditional and "feminized" relationships between a man and a woman. Patriarchal norms reinforce a man's confidence and prevent the emergence of a power struggle in a couple, and their destruction contributes to the development of impotence, family breakdown and the emergence of LGBT communities.
  19. Dejavu
    Dejavu 2 December 2013 09: 05
    +6
    As long as we say "we want to live for ourselves," we will die out. While in the villages it will be unprofitable to keep your cow, pig, chickens, because it is stupidly expensive today, we will die out. And most importantly, as long as our society remains a consumer society and "you deserve it" - we will die out. It is necessary to change consciousness, society and economy. This solution should be comprehensive, and not so that they gave 300t.r. for the second and goodbye. Like they took care of demographics. Neither put in your pocket, nor lived. conditions to improve and grow it as you want in our not cheap times.
    1. Fin
      Fin 2 December 2013 10: 32
      +6
      Quote: dejavu
      This solution should be comprehensive, and not so that they gave 300t.r. for the second and goodbye. Type took care of demography. Neither put in his pocket, nor lived. conditions to improve and grow it as you want in our not cheap times.

      I agree with you. I know how to grow 3, without any help. In addition to 300 tr need to run a housing program 4 children-4 com. sq., 5-5 com. sq .... + hedgehog. allowance of at least 5 tr for each. Upon request, relocation to the village with interest-free payment. home loans.
  20. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 2 December 2013 09: 07
    +6
    Reproduction is a fundamental function of man; he does not need to be helped in this, it’s enough just not to interfere or destroy the conditions for this. Given a well-organized life and confidence in the future, demography will naturally improve. But instead of social events, it’s easier to simply replace your people (workforce) with others, moreover, cheaper ones.
  21. cat 1970
    cat 1970 2 December 2013 09: 15
    +5
    + I am not a Nazi. but remember or watch Riefenstahl’s films, the Germans are a great nation, every child is a hero, and now we have ******, they mostly give birth to homeless people because of the allowance, we need a national idea, for example, roads, though not 6 million US dollars, where 80% kickbacks, and maybe it is necessary as in Germany about tickets on the bus ?????
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 2 December 2013 12: 53
      +6
      Quote: cat 1970
      + I am not a Nazi. but remember or watch Riefenstahl’s films, the Germans are a great nation, every child is a hero,

      In order for the white race to start regaining its strength again, men must start earning so much that their women can afford to sit at home, give birth to children and raise older ones. It was like that before: white colonizers robbed colonies, and their wives sat at home and raised children at the expense of loot (I exaggerate, but I hope the idea is clear). Then came the capitalist, who is always not enough, and in order to increase the consumption of women, they were equal in rights with men and sent to work. A woman earned money and spent it. The capitalist is satisfied. There are no children to give birth and bring up, white the nation is dying. We just had to do the same, there was a big war on the nose, hands were sorely lacking. But! We had what the capitalist did not have — faith in the future, the hope that the children would live better than their parents. It’s thanks Our faith grew in numbers. Yes, and life got really better, and quite quickly. Great sacrifices began to bear fruit. These fruits were even managed to take advantage of the generation nia, which at one time sacrificed themselves for the future. It seemed that life was getting better ... and then the capitalist came. Kirdyk. The family needed to send their mother to work, and all those who could. To survive, there was no one to bring up children Families with many families are either homeless or very wealthy, where the father provides a decent life, and the mother runs a house and raises children. So everything is just a return to the Soviet model with that protection of motherhood, or the income of a working husband should allow the family to live with dignity, to free a woman from work (by the way, in the Reich they understood this). And since none of these options is acceptable for our authorities, the indigenous population will die out and the authorities will hypocritically moan about the damned demographic crisis. And let migrants who have enough earnings for their wives to sit at home and give birth and raise their children.
  22. Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 2 December 2013 09: 16
    +1
    The main question of our time is not how the crisis arose, the main question is how to overcome it.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 2 December 2013 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: Maximus-22
      The main question of our time is not how the crisis arose, the main question is how to overcome it.

      It’s like a cure for the symptoms, but not a cure for the disease.
  23. Known who
    Known who 2 December 2013 09: 20
    -2
    An increase in the nation’s identity and a decrease in fertility form an interchangeable pair. Therefore, in order to increase one, it is necessary to reduce another or to take the third path - to call for migrants (thereby lowering the level of education and diluting national self-awareness)!
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 2 December 2013 13: 41
      +2
      I didn’t know that the “highest” self-awareness is among glamorous idiots with a fashion for childfree (childlessness) and homosexuals
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  25. schta
    schta 2 December 2013 09: 22
    +1
    Turn off the Internet all over the country and fertility will skyrocket
    1. clidon
      clidon 2 December 2013 10: 40
      +1
      An abortion number will skyrocket and condom sales ...
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 2 December 2013 16: 01
        0
        Bullshit. Close the pick-up facilities, and unload the condoms with a pitchfork. laughing
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 16: 06
          +2
          Quote: novobranets
          . Closing houses close

          It is high time. We have one woman’s health center located 50 meters from the school. And all the children know that there is an abortion. am
        2. kaktus
          kaktus 2 December 2013 17: 26
          +2
          there will be criminal abortions negative
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 18: 05
            0
            Quote: kaktus
            there will be criminal abortions

            Equate a criminal abortion to a murder, and I'll see how many will be willing to sit. And there is a group of people, plus a preliminary conspiracy. Ten pulls. hi
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 2 December 2013 10: 40
      +3
      Quote: schta
      Turn off internet all over the country

      And the light. laughing
      1. alone
        alone 2 December 2013 20: 52
        +1
        Quote: novobranets
        And the light.


        Blame Lenin with his GOELRO program)) laughing
  26. kopcan
    kopcan 2 December 2013 09: 23
    +2
    Novoselov in his book on the main roots of the demographic problem very intelligently laid out everything on the shelves, in Western society, matriarchy was essentially established, this leads to a low number of passionaries in the white race, and of course the state adds fuel to the fire, because it was always beneficial for him to have a large labor mass with low potential energy, which would ensure its non-exchangeability and the possibility of unlimited parasitism. And as for Asians and other fast-breeding races, you are wrong, over time, always the quantity goes into quality
  27. Greenwood
    Greenwood 2 December 2013 09: 23
    10
    The country is worthless living conditions. This is the main cause of demographic problems in the country.
    The problem of housing alone is worth it. A young family will either need to toil in rented apartments and dormitories, or to get into bondage called "mortgages". The spending on children is astronomical. Baby food, clothes, diapers are expensive. Sending a child to kindergarten is a whole problem. Excessive extortions in schools too. And so in everything. I am already silent about utility rates, rising prices and so on. People do not have a sense of security, a sense of confidence for tomorrow. We live every day as if on a powder keg. On TV, we are shown chic stars who are disgusting with their lifestyle and stupid outhouse shows like House-2 and other Comedy Clubs. All this is diluted with news about another high-profile murder, a terrorist attack, a stolen official who is given a suspended sentence, another cut of budget money, etc. etc. Tons of negativity are poured onto us every day from all sides and from all holes. What incentive should one have in such conditions to give birth to children ?!
    1. kopcan
      kopcan 2 December 2013 09: 31
      +3
      The incentive is the preservation of their civilization, in Russia it has always been difficult, but families of 5 children were at a minimum, the main thing is desire, there are opportunities.
  28. Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 2 December 2013 09: 25
    +3
    Quote: Maximus-22
    The main question of our time is not how the crisis arose, the main question is how to overcome it.

    I personally know only one way laughing . Well, even cloning.
  29. yurii p
    yurii p 2 December 2013 09: 28
    +5
    "What is the reason for such a deplorable demographic state of the Russian people?" ,,,, the only reason is the anti-people policy of the government, which works for large monopolies and oligarchs, and all laws are adopted only for their prosperity and, accordingly, against the people, take at least the tariffs of natural monopolies, only this year, Putin limited the growth of tariffs within inflation, and before that inflation was happening 7-8% and tariffs were growing by 15-20%, this clearly shows how the government works to impoverish the people, motorists should know how the government helps insurance companies and so in every area of ​​our life.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 2 December 2013 15: 13
      +5
      Well, inflation, strife, inflation .. The eggs went up 2 times, or Milk, and they all have 6-7%. Over the new year, electricity consumption standards will be introduced. But who thought that with a small child, the washing machine almost never turns off? Where is the manger? Why the cost of gardens they want up to 7 thousand rubles raise? For some reason, what used to be done for free - music classes and stuff, now already stands on 500p. per month per referral? And the quality has never risen, compared with free classes?
  30. saag
    saag 2 December 2013 09: 29
    -5
    Yes, turn off the light in the region for three days, I bet you will have a baby boom, there will be no distractions in the form of TV shows, social networks and network games :-)
    1. Armata
      Armata 2 December 2013 09: 53
      +4
      Then it’s better to turn off the lights in Moscow, and also gas and water, so let’s look at the innovation. The experiments are performed on individual individuals, and not on the bulk.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 December 2013 17: 03
      +1
      There, in the 90s, every day without light, water and heating sat for several hours. Something I do not recall the birth rate boom in those years.
  31. Odysseus
    Odysseus 2 December 2013 09: 29
    +4
    There are two reasons:
    1) Market reforms that led to the collapse of the economy.
    2) The introduction of bourgeois-liberal values, values ​​of "consumption at any cost"
  32. Stinger
    Stinger 2 December 2013 09: 50
    +6
    Firstly. the title of the article does not match the content. The article is about the peoples of the country, and not about the Russian people. (It is known that the population growth of the USSR was due to the peoples of the Central Asian republics)
    Secondly, no one has studied the demography of individual nations, and the conclusion about Russians is at the level of assumptions.
    Thirdly, do not look for one reason. A set of reasons affects demography. From religion and traditions to social order and level of culture.
    As for modern Russia, it would be strange to expect positive trends in the field of demography amid a deep decline in all areas. If we count how many people die at the hands of bandits, go missing, die from injuries at work and in car accidents, we will see that annual irrecoverable losses are comparable to losses in the Second World War during inactive military operations or throughout the Finnish war.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 2 December 2013 10: 15
      +4
      Quote: Stinger
      it is known that the population growth of the USSR was due to the peoples of the Central Asian republics
      Who told you so? My grandfather, a Kuban Cossack, had 10 children before the war, after the war only my mother, the youngest of all, survived. There is no need for such generalizations. Your statement is stretched to apply only to the later period of the USSR.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 2 December 2013 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: Stinger
      The article is about the peoples of the country, and not about the Russian people. (It is known that the population growth of the USSR was due to the peoples of the Central Asian republics)

      This is not true. The population growth in the RSFSR:
      1980 - 677 thousand people.
      1987-968 thousand people.
      But already in 1993, the population of the Russian Federation decreased by 750 thousand people.
      Comments are unnecessary .....
      1. nik6006
        nik6006 2 December 2013 12: 58
        +1
        What are these numbers, where did you get them, what are such 968 thousand people ??? In Moscow alone (and this was the capital of the RSFSR) in 1989 there were 8 967 232 people.

        The natural population growth (on 1000 people) in Moscow is 1,7, well, then in 1990 the growth is negative -2,3.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 2 December 2013 19: 45
          +1
          Quote: nik6006
          What are these numbers, where did you get them, what are 968 thousand people ??? In Moscow alone (and this was the capital of the RSFSR) in 1989 there were 8 people

          belay I mean what kind of numbers? I wrote, the growth of the population of the RSFSR (birth-death balance). And where does Moscow?
          Source-Goskomstat of the USSR "Demographic Yearbook of the USSR" 1990
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  34. ReifA
    ReifA 2 December 2013 09: 52
    +9
    Consumer society, war, the collapse of the institution of the family, general dance. I read somewhere, the Germans examined Russian girls in the occupied territories, from 16 to 20, almost all unmarried women were virgins. I don’t know if it’s true, but in our time it’s better not to check - it will be calmer.
  35. calocha
    calocha 2 December 2013 10: 12
    +4
    Work is carried out against us comprehensively. Everything is at a high level. He talked with a person so the doctor said that the drugs that are sold have become diverse and the heaps of new unknowns affecting male testes ... The scale is huge, but around .. silent. Prostitution is one of the problems . In the salons and brothels, the Russian seed + pornography disappears, which confuses the mind of the already stupid youth ..
    Everything lies in the SOCIAL SPHERE !!! From the Socialist Highway turned onto .. a gravel path. To stimulate the birth rate even more intensively, apartments for 4-5 children, bank loans at a low interest rate with repayment of the rate with the birth of a new baby + benefits (kindergarten, school , travel, institute) Prohibit the killing of children through abortion. Pay close attention to the Kindergartens to the State !!! Crimes in orphanages (committed by the leadership) are punished in the strictest way. CHILDREN OUR FUTURE!
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 2 December 2013 15: 18
      +3
      Quote: calocha
      To stimulate the birth rate of an even more intensive apartment for an 4-5 child, bank loans at a low interest rate with repayment of a new birth rate


      In private and semi state. banks in the board are the children of our managers. What are preferential loans? Not for that dad the minister licked his ass all his life so that he could deprive the children now. No, these, calling the loan preferential, three skins will be torn off.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 3 December 2013 22: 40
      0
      Prostitution is one of the problems.
      The other is dirt on the street, especially during the election. Putting them in robes, a shovel, a broom, and bags in hands, can the prestige of labor and fall in the eyes of young girls.
  36. CreepyUknow
    CreepyUknow 2 December 2013 10: 23
    -5
    I disagree. It is the February revolution and the beginning of the rule of the country by the Bolsheviks that must be blamed for the demographic crisis of our country. The Bolsheviks, in order to gain support from the masses, legalized whatever they liked. The flourishing of prostitution, drug addiction, alcoholism. The destruction of the institution of the family through free divorce, civil cohabitation and legal abortion. Plus the destruction of the Church as something that warned against all of the above, and the rejection of the people from the religious sphere. I agree that the situation has become "better" over time. But, you must agree; what can make a person have many children, if not the correct worldview ?? Nothing. Therefore, the people, who were once taken away from the Church and God, are now joining forces, dwindling in numbers and spending their lives in often meaningless jobs / deeds, just wasting their time of existence. Even though the Churches were allowed to act. This does not change the essence; people have lived according to their own laws since the 20s and still live. It is for this terrible experiment on the people of Lenin and Co. that I hate him and his associates, and I also have a cool attitude towards communism in general. Please do not minus. Just a cry from the heart.
  37. Kostjan
    Kostjan 2 December 2013 10: 27
    +2
    Do not whine. Everything is bad for you. And what did you do to make it better? Are you damn slaves or serfs? I have two children, although we don’t have any maternal capital there and I bring up nothing, not dodiks and whiners, but normal people who know who they are and who their ancestors are.
  38. Neighbor
    Neighbor 2 December 2013 10: 28
    +9
    I was born 12 years after the Victory. The country has just moved away from the destructive war. But life was constantly improving, people believed in the future, theirs and their children. In our rural school, in my class there were 42 people !!!!! Now in the same school in classes of 3-5 students. People, apparently, no longer believe in a brighter future. For industry and agriculture are so degraded ..... and education too, is a continuous exam.
  39. Bosk
    Bosk 2 December 2013 10: 33
    +2
    Now who is getting richer?, Not the one who produces or sells products in the same stores, for example, but the one who resells goods from the same manufacturers to the same stores ..., this is such a "bazaar" economy ...
  40. Christian
    Christian 2 December 2013 10: 40
    0
    The reason for the extinction of the Russian people is the rejection of Orthodoxy, as the basis and foundation of the moral and moral well-being of the nation. And the replacement of these Christian values ​​with a thirst for profit, pleasure with all that it implies ...
    1. Armata
      Armata 2 December 2013 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: Christian
      The reason for the extinction of the Russian people is the rejection of Orthodoxy, as the basis and foundation of the moral and moral well-being of the nation. And the replacement of these Christian values ​​with a thirst for profit, pleasure with all that it implies ...
      Do not measure everything on the church. Everyone has their own God, but the children go from the mother. The stronger the family (no matter whether they believe it or not), the more important the child becomes. And they give birth not according to the command of God, but according to the order of nature (drunks are not charitable, give birth to many foundlings and street children). And how could God allow them that? Yes, just how could God allow them to sleep and then make offspring (not to be called otherwise).
      1. Christian
        Christian 2 December 2013 12: 27
        0
        Here I am about the same. You are a Russian person, and you do not know the foundations of the faith of your People. Refusal from the roots, the death of the people ...
        1. Armata
          Armata 2 December 2013 15: 11
          +3
          Quote: Christian
          Here I am about the same. You are a Russian person, and you do not know the foundations of the faith of your People. Refusal from the roots, the death of the people ...
          Here I am about the same. I am 40 and I do not believe in anything other than my conscience. And you can bow to Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, only it will not unite anyone, but just the opposite. There is a conscience, this is the only god you should believe in, but everything else is a place to hang out to understand what you did against her.
    2. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 2 December 2013 20: 45
      -1
      Not in Orthodoxy, it’s just in the Second World War that the best died. The grandchildren of the heroes have already grown up with different views: on life, on patriotism, on spiritual values. (as an example, E. Gaidar, B. Yeltsin and others)
  41. clidon
    clidon 2 December 2013 10: 45
    -1
    Society aimed at satisfying the needs of the individual and maximum efficiency is already doomed to small families. Children are a serious burden on the family in all respects - career, hobby, etc. suffers.
    In addition, the process of urbanization and the destruction of the patriarchal system, in which the offspring supported old age and strengthened the situation in society, is going on in parallel. This has much in common with the first point.
    Plus, all this is superimposed in general, which is not a very good financial situation for the majority of citizens and uncertainty about the future.
  42. istemis
    istemis 2 December 2013 10: 53
    +7
    If you do not go back to history, then I, as a young guy, 24 years old, can say the following:
    I have a higher engineering education, which I received in our provincial town in the state branch. University, which is located not in Moscow, but in our regional center. An excavator driver who studied at the Professional Lyceum opposite our institute receives 2 times more. I am married, we will soon have a child, and I am not going to have a second and subsequent child for any money, so that I can hang out in all the rented apartments. Mortgage - robbery, education - just to have a diploma, work: Ivanov works as a director of a metallurgical plant, gets 100 thousand rubles, Petrov works as a foundry worker in this metallurgical plant, gets 15 thousand rubles, on average they both get 57,5 thousand . rubles.
    Yes, maybe I’m arguing somehow superficially, not in-depth, but the bottom line is that in addition to Moscow and regional centers there are small cities, they also have young families, and they look for decent work where it does not exist, and then their children will try to get an education in their provincial town, which will not be appreciated anywhere.
    Who ultimately wants in our time to have many children? Maximum of two. And if you give birth to two children each, this is not enough for demography in Russia to go uphill. Well then, at least you have to try to die less often in our country.
    1. Armata
      Armata 2 December 2013 11: 06
      +3
      I am also an engineer. At our factory, the turner gets more than me. And this is correct. The foundation of our country is in the hands of workers, and not in effective managers. I also live not in the capital. Koda began to work in the USSR, then in 18 years (just half a year before the army) as a young specialist he got more than an 5 discharge lathe for mastering CNC. So do not envy people who build houses with their own hands, make cars, unlike paperworms.
      1. Forest
        Forest 2 December 2013 11: 18
        +3
        This is wrong, the foundation of the industry is competent engineers, and you can teach a worker in 6 months. The engineer has been trained for life.
        And specifically - if the engineer does not explain to the worker what to do (and often how, at new facilities), the worker becomes an idler.
        1. Neighbor
          Neighbor 2 December 2013 11: 28
          +4
          A good worker himself must understand the drawings. Within his specialty, at least, there is.
          1. Forest
            Forest 2 December 2013 11: 39
            +3
            When a worker begins to read drawings at the engineer level, he becomes an engineer)
            1. Armata
              Armata 2 December 2013 15: 19
              0
              Quote: Forest
              it’s wrong, the foundation of the industry is competent engineers, and you can teach a worker in 6 months. The engineer has been trained all his life.
              And specifically - if the engineer does not explain to the worker what to do (and often how, at new facilities), the worker becomes an idler.

              Quote: Neighbor
              A good worker himself must understand the drawings. Within his specialty, at least, there is.
              So I look at all the statements and think. A blueprint worker can make a part intuitively. But the engineer drew and where then? It is not for nothing that the people have a proverb "Pindet, do not smear the wheels." Think scribblers like me. If there are no people who embody our ideas in metal (and other materials), why do we need all this paper? I have learned this, and therefore I do not strive to climb and twist the nuts together with the workers.
              1. Forest
                Forest 3 December 2013 08: 04
                0
                Our specificity is different, if the worker connects everything "intuitively" all work can go at a loss).
        2. 225chay
          225chay 2 December 2013 11: 34
          +5
          Quote: Forest
          This is wrong, the foundation of the industry is competent engineers, and you can teach a worker in 6 months. The engineer has been trained for life.
          And specifically - if the engineer does not explain to the worker what to do (and often how, at new facilities), the worker becomes an idler.


          Both ENGINEERS and QUALIFIED WORKERS must receive decent salaries no less than the same specialists in the USA or Germany.
          And we have traders in honor, and other effective managers - (furniture makers ...)
          1. Forest
            Forest 2 December 2013 11: 47
            +2
            They currently not only do not receive a decent salary, but in general often do not find work.
      2. Dimon-chik-79
        Dimon-chik-79 2 December 2013 12: 31
        +1
        And what did all this lead to? To the decline in the prestige of the profession, with a consequent shortage of personnel! The growth of jokes about unhappy poor poor engineers! We have all gone through this in due time!
        I completely agree with istemis When you rent a room, you get a worthless salary that allows you to barely barely make ends meet, you won’t think about demography in the country. And it’s not that the boss gets more, but that the workers are few. This is our misfortune, our poverty! You can, of course, like Asians, give birth to a dozen and do not worry how they will exist later, how much they die from hunger and disease, in what crowding and dirt they will have to live, whether they will receive an education.
        But we are mostly not like that, our children are dear to us, their future is not indifferent to us, and we wish them a happy life.
  43. Averias
    Averias 2 December 2013 11: 01
    +3
    Immediately apologize for the many letters. I want to give an example here:

    Let's just say, one distantly familiar person of 30 years (wow, such a person, I’ll tell you, and is not deprived of the mind). And he lives with "a representative of those regions from which migrants and market traders". Nationality is difficult to determine, she says that he is Armenian, but this is complete nonsense. In principle, it doesn't matter. So, this representative of the human race is dumb as a cork, constantly nasvay in the mouth, eyes like a smoky one (although he is 40 years old), it stinks. Cretinism and idiocy that pours out of his mouth, when speaking, defies description. He does not know how to do anything, he is nimble about something with the same as himself. But there is money.
    I ask her - and what for you such a miracle (she wants a child from him).
    The answer is he, these are only virtues.
    I ask - which ones?
    Answer - He doesn't drink. I tell her, so he eats "tons". Intelligence is zero, what kind of children will it turn out?
    The answer is that he is in every way better than RUSSIAN men. I tell her, yes it’s a fairy tale about our polls.
    The answer is no, they say, she has all her friends, and girlfriends have friends, men drink. I tell her, drinking and alcoholism are two different things. She rested her horn.
    He says he gives me presents. To the question, which ones?
    The answer is here is a Sony X smartphone of some kind, they say, dear. And then it turned out that she took a loan, and with that money he bought her a smartphone.
    After that, the conversation ended. And I finish my story the same, so as not to load.
    The only question is how to raise demography with such persons?
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 2 December 2013 12: 57
      +2
      Raise the demographics with others, such as you. If everything is as described, I doubt that this inkwell is not deprived of the mind.
  44. Forest
    Forest 2 December 2013 11: 07
    +3
    There was such a gardener practitioner Nikolai Goshe, and so he found that: "trees that are good (in abundance of nutrients and solar energy) do not give offspring, they just fatten, and trees that are going to die in an emergency throw away a lot of fruits trying to prolong themselves in offspring" ...
    Strange, but so similar to our life).
    1. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 2 December 2013 21: 46
      0
      Only on an emergency basis do they throw out the fruits for the last time, and a wild game grows from the root.
      1. Forest
        Forest 3 December 2013 07: 52
        0
        Gaucher disagrees with you). This theory was one of the secrets of his success.
  45. Forest
    Forest 2 December 2013 11: 07
    +2
    There was such a gardener practitioner Nikolai Goshe, and so he found that: "trees that are good (in abundance of nutrients and solar energy) do not give offspring, they just fatten, and trees that are going to die in an emergency throw away a lot of fruits trying to prolong themselves in offspring" ...
    Strange, but so similar to our life).
  46. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 2 December 2013 11: 27
    +1
    I think the reason for the decline in fertility is the natural processes taking place in the world.
    We live in the heyday of technocivilization, before the natural criterion for survival was high fertility in the territories occupied by different nations and peoples (tribes), this was due to the following factors:
    1. The need to defend their territories (to make up for military losses)
    2.Production of everything necessary for life (the use of a large amount of manual labor in all sectors and spheres of human activity)
    Nowadays, technology has replaced manual labor in many spheres of life.
    Consequently, the need for a large population to support life has disappeared.
    This mainly applies to technologically advanced countries.
    Russia in this regard is currently in an intermediate position, that is, we are standing between technologically developed countries and third world countries.
    Every year in our country there is an increasing mechanization and automation of production processes in all spheres of our life, including in agriculture. Outdated equipment is replaced by newer productive equipment, which leads to a reduction in jobs for people who find themselves on the street without work. ...
    There is also such a factor as low wages for employees, this reverse side of the coin arose as a result of unfair competition in the labor market, organized by “our” “businessmen” and the corrupt government, the massive import of illegal migrants (slaves).
    By this I want to say that the intermediate niche between technologically advanced production and outdated technologies should have been occupied by the local population, which would have given people the opportunity to live normally and plan their lives in accordance with reality (a necessary respite for retraining for another profession, family planning, etc.). ).
    Somehow I see this picture for today.
  47. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 2 December 2013 11: 27
    +1
    I think the reason for the decline in fertility is the natural processes taking place in the world.
    We live in the heyday of technocivilization, before the natural criterion for survival was high fertility in the territories occupied by different nations and peoples (tribes), this was due to the following factors:
    1. The need to defend their territories (to make up for military losses)
    2.Production of everything necessary for life (the use of a large amount of manual labor in all sectors and spheres of human activity)
    Nowadays, technology has replaced manual labor in many spheres of life.
    Consequently, the need for a large population to support life has disappeared.
    This mainly applies to technologically advanced countries.
    Russia in this regard is currently in an intermediate position, that is, we are standing between technologically developed countries and third world countries.
    Every year in our country there is an increasing mechanization and automation of production processes in all spheres of our life, including in agriculture. Outdated equipment is replaced by newer productive equipment, which leads to a reduction in jobs for people who find themselves on the street without work. ...
    There is also such a factor as low wages for employees, this reverse side of the coin arose as a result of unfair competition in the labor market, organized by “our” “businessmen” and the corrupt government, the massive import of illegal migrants (slaves).
    By this I want to say that the intermediate niche between technologically advanced production and outdated technologies should have been occupied by the local population, which would have given people the opportunity to live normally and plan their lives in accordance with reality (a necessary respite for retraining for another profession, family planning, etc.). ).
    Somehow I see this picture for today.
  48. buzer
    buzer 2 December 2013 11: 31
    +7
    my personal opinion about the "crisis of the white race" is the following: -the author is looking for a problem in the wrong place, it's not in the white race, by the way, the author mentions that in Japan there is a problem with fertility (and there seem to be Asians living there). The reason is simple in my opinion. The point is in the gender sphere of human development. Women give birth to children !!! And women decide to give birth or not to give birth too !!! And they are brought up by women !!! The man basically plays the role of the father-breadwinner of the family or just the father-producer. But in a civilization where a woman is first of all not a mother, but the same "man" or even worse, where a man is not a man, but some incomprehensible "sexless creature" equal to women, demographic problems begin there ... By the way, we have in Kazakhstan, Russian families are not inferior in fertility to Kazakhs, in the village, in the city ... The mentality, however
  49. saag
    saag 2 December 2013 11: 34
    -1
    Quote: Mechanic
    Experiments are carried out on individual individuals, and not on the bulk.

    Yes, such "experiments" were and are being staged, for example, the Grushevsky song festival, a hundred thousand with tents come to the banks of the Volga, they live there for three days, after which, as usual, many "children of the festival" appear :-) So the method has been tested for a long time
    Quote: CreepyUknow
    The Bolsheviks, in order to gain support from the masses, legalized whatever they liked. The rise of prostitution, drug addiction, alcoholism

    Alcoholism and prostitution were also under the tsar, read Kuprin's "Pit"
    Quote: CreepyUknow
    Plus the destruction of the Church as something that warned against all of the above, and the rejection of the people from the religious sphere

    And how the church can help the development of progress, for example, they replaced astronomy with God's law, no religion is opium for the people, without any religion in the mid-80s there was a boom in childbirth.

    Quote: CreepyUknow
    now he is poking around, shrinking in numbers and spending his life in often meaningless works / deeds,

    Interestingly, the work began to be a meaningless time spending? And what do you want to live on, eat, drink, dress, what to support children? Very surprising, however, you have a train of thought
    1. CreepyUknow
      CreepyUknow 2 December 2013 12: 48
      -1
      I agree that prostitution was always and everywhere, but flourished after the revolution and with the arrival of the Bolsheviks. Read Prishvin’s notes, he’s talking about a bunch of syringes on the main street of Sergiev Posad! Although next to her, but still not even Moscow.
      Now at the expense of progress. I'm not talking about him, but about what religion and the Church did everything to maintain morality. What does your progress have to do with it? It is not required for fertility - take Africa and Europe to figure it out. The "boom" of the 80s is dry law. The birth rate increased insignificantly on the scale of the state, and the "boom" did not last long. And further. Orthodoxy never opposes religion to science.
      And now about work. I mean those people who work, work, accumulate money, but all this is in the key of a consumer society. Earn not to live, but to buy something that is not needed. And such a society is opposed to high birth rates. And such a society will not be able to get out of this state until it joins religion.
  50. lexe
    lexe 2 December 2013 11: 40
    0
    The extinction of the Russian people is inevitable in the conditions of living in the city.
    Moreover, in cities built and imprisoned for life in the conditions of a socialist industrial race with total control of the population. Our cities are dead in spirit ... for those living in them, hence all the problems. After the collapse of the USSR, almost all cities turned into a kind of Chernobyl, in social and spiritual meaning. And how many stray dogs have become ... sometimes you think ... and after all, it’s our smallest brothers who are the most intelligent in the cities. In conditions of heavy traffic, four-legged animals unmistakably find their zebras laughing And people go blind before their eyes, not finding their "pointers" - in the broad sense of the word ...
    Only the Russian village will save us, in which children in the first turn became helpers to their parents, and not freeloaders like today. It seems that there are building technologies ... and there is the Internet for education ... So what was the problem? When was collectivization -industrialization ... The idea was simple enough - to create unbearable living conditions in the village in order to drive people to the city and put them at their desks ... by giving a minimum of housing. Such an educational cluster in the Soviet interpretation. Oh, how much we paid for all our successes in science ... LITERALLY! A LOT!
    The question of land should come to the fore. Of course, the village needs to be given the maximum that there is in the city, otherwise it will be an escape. And I am sure that the new Lomonosov will no longer have to stomp with fish to the city laughing Why? Progress has simplified many things.
    Well, if he drowns ... (and it’s better to buy a ticket for a high-speed train, passing the exam laughing ) then he would like to see new cities filled with the meaning and magnificence of the triumph of progress where everyone found his place and his own transition sign and a family for 2-3 children.