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Luftwaffe defectors

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About the traitors do not like to talk. Traitors - a shame for any country. And war, like a litmus test, sticks out the true qualities of people. Touching stories The Great Patriotic War, of course, more remember the Russian pilots who went over to the side of Germany. However, the same defectors were among the German Luftwaffe pilots. Now it is difficult to say who actually voluntarily crossed the border and surrendered, and who did it by force. But for some people, no doubt.


Luftwaffe defectors


Count Heinrich von Ainsiedel

The most senior among them is Count Heinrich Einsiedel, who was the maternal great-grandson of the "iron chancellor" Otto von Bismarck. In 1939, at the age of 18, he voluntarily entered German Aviation. When the war began, the count was a Me-109 fighter pilot of the elite von Richthofen squadron, where he was known by the nickname Graf. He shot down several British aircraft, together with other pilots thwarted a torpedo attack by British torpedo bombers on German ships. In June 1942, Einsidel was transferred to the Eastern Front as an experienced fighter pilot in the Udet squadron. In just a month of fighting near Stalingrad, he shot down 31 Soviet aircraft, for which he was awarded the German Cross in gold.

Lieutenant Ainzidel was captured by Soviet 30 prisoners on August 1942, his Messerschmitt 109F was shot down near Stalingrad, in the Beketovka area. In captivity, he wrote an open letter home, recalled the words of his grandfather Bismarck, said before his death: "Never go to war with Russia." The pilot was sent to the Krasnogorsk camp, where other German prisoners were. They were opposed to Hitler, and in November 1943, Ainsiedel joined the anti-fascist organization Free Germany. After the war, the count became its vice-chairman and propaganda commissioner, supervised the release of anti-fascist leaflets.

His mother, Countess Irena von Ainzidel, nee von Bismarck-Schonhausen, wrote a letter to Joseph Stalin asking her to release her son from captivity, and in 1947, he received permission to return to East Germany. The following year, when Ainzidel wanted to go to his mother in West Berlin, a scandal erupted. The count was arrested on charges of spying on the USSR. In the absence of evidence, he was acquitted, but relations with the Communists were rapidly deteriorating. Ainzidel remained to live in Germany, worked as a translator and journalist, published a book of memoirs "Diary of a German pilot: fighting on the side of the enemy." At home, he was considered a traitor to the end, and the Soviet Union was indifferent to him.

Franz-Josef Beerenbrock

Franz-Josef Beerenbrock was born in 1920 year. His mother was Russian and taught her son how to speak Russian well. Beerenbrock joined the Luftwaffe in 1938 and first served in the anti-aircraft forces. At the beginning of 1941, he graduated from flight training as a non-commissioned officer, and from June 22 he participated in battles on the Eastern Front. Beerenbroek was a real ace of the Luftwaffe. In just a few months of the war with Russia, he was awarded the Knight's Cross with oak leaves, and in early December he had 50 downed aircraft. In February, 1942, Franz Josef was given the rank of sergeant major, and in August, Lieutenant. By that time, the number of his “victories” exceeded one hundred. At the beginning of November, Beerenbrock was appointed commander of the 10./JG51 squadron.

11 November 1942 of the year near the town of Velizh, Smolensk region, he shot down three fighters, but in the same battle his plane was hit, the radiator would be affected. Beerenbrock had to make an emergency landing behind the front line, where he was captured. In total, he made more 400 sorties and shot down 117 aircraft. His comrades from the squadron realized that the pilot had gone over to the side of the enemy when they noticed that the Soviet pilots were using their tactical techniques. In captivity, Beerenbrock and Walter von Seidlitz (Walter von Seydlitz), the former commander of the 51 Army Corps and General of Artillery, were among the founders of the anti-fascist organization Union of German Officers, created by 12 on September 1943 of the year. Also in captivity, the Luftwaffe advised Soviet pilots on the tactics of conducting a destructive battle. Berenbroek returned to Germany from captivity in mid-December 1949, died in 2004.

Herman Graf

The son of a simple blacksmith, before the war he worked in a factory. In 1939 he graduated from a military flight school, entered the Luftwaffe and was sent to the first group of the 51 th Fighter Squadron, stationed on the western border. In 1941, he participated in the Balkan campaign, then was transferred to Romania, where he scored his first victory. By May 1942, the Count shot down an 100 aircraft, and Goering personally forbade him to participate in the battles, but the pilot did not obey and soon shot down another aircraft. 17 May 1942, the Earl was awarded the Order of the Knight's Cross with oak leaves.

He distinguished himself in battles at Stalingrad. September 26 The 1942 of the year, the Count among the first Luftwaffe aces, shot down his two hundredth plane. Since February 1943, he was appointed commander of the training group "East" in France. In March, 1943 was assigned the task of forming a special unit to fight the Moskito reconnaissance aircraft, called the Fighter Group South. From October 1944 to the end of the war, he commanded the 52 th Fighter Squadron, the most famous Luftwaffe unit.

8 May 1945, the Earl was captured by the US military and handed over to the Soviet command. In total during the war he made about 830 combat missions and shot down an 202 aircraft on the Soviet-German front. The count spent five years in Soviet captivity, collaborating with the Bolsheviks. Upon returning to Germany in 1950, he was expelled from the group of Luftwaffe pilots for his actions in captivity.

Harro Schulze-Boyzen

Harro Schulze-Boyzen was born in 1912 year in a rich family of German nationalists. His father during the First World War was the chief of staff of the German naval command in Belgium, and his mother came from a famous family of lawyers. From his earliest youth, Schulze-Boysen participated in opposition organizations, in the summer of 1932 he joined the circle of national revolutionaries in Berlin who opposed all political power. During the war he was a member of the anti-fascist organization "Red Chapel".

In 1936, he married Libertas Haas-Neye, and Marshal Goering himself spoke at the wedding. At the same time, Boysen began working at the Goering Research Institute, where he met many communists and began to cooperate with Soviet intelligence, passing on information about the course of the war in Spain.
Even before the war, Schulze-Boyzen was recruited by the NKVD and worked under the pseudonym "Sergeant". From January 1941, he served at the Luftwaffe Operations Headquarters with the rank of chief lieutenant, at the headquarters of Reichsmarshal Marsh Goering, where the most secret units were located. Then Schulze-Boyzen was transferred to a group of military air attaches, and in fact he became an intelligence officer. At a new location, a Soviet spy was photographing secret documents from the Luftwaffe attache at the German embassies abroad.

Schulze-Boysen had an excellent ability to make the necessary connections, and because of this he had access to a wide variety of secret information, including the development of new aircraft, bombs, torpedoes, as well as the losses of German aircraft. He managed to obtain information on the placement of chemical arsenals. weapons on the territory of the Reich. Schulze-Boysen was in a relationship of trust even with one of Goering's favorites, Erich Gerts, who was in charge of the 3 group in the training and instruction sector. The Soviet agent’s informants were the construction inspector, the head of the construction sector, and the lieutenant of the Abwehr department who was involved in sabotage.

Schulze-Boysen conveyed information about many reconnaissance flights of German ghost planes, but the Soviet leadership did not attach much importance to them.

The Germans uncovered a traitor, and 31 August 1942, Harro Schulze-Boysen was arrested. A few days later, the Gestapo also took his wife. A military court sentenced him to death, and December 22 Boyzen and his wife were executed by hanging in a Berlin prison.

Ebergard Carisius

Carisius was the first Luftwaffe to fall into Soviet captivity. During his first combat departure towards the USSR 22 on June 1941, five hours after the start of the war, the engine refused his plane and Carisius had to make an emergency landing in the region of Tarnopol. The navigator shot from fear, and the rest of the crew, led by Ebergard, surrendered. Carisius declared his "disagreement with the Hitler war against the Soviet Union." The rest of his crew died in captivity.

Later, the German pilot himself offered his services and arrived at the front in the winter of the 1943 of the year. With his knowledge of the German army from the inside, he helped the 7 section of the PU of the 3 of the Ukrainian Front to establish meaningful propaganda. With the active participation of Carisius, the 32 German prisoners wrote an anti-fascist appeal to the German population. He joined the participants of the organization "Free Germany", one of the main tasks of which was to conduct antifascist explanatory work among German soldiers at the front. Propaganda was carried out with the help of leaflets, newspapers, plates with records of speeches of leaders of the organization. The participants also had the right to talk with the captured German soldiers and involve them in cooperation.

After the war, Carisius graduated from the military academy in Moscow and then commanded tank formations of the German national army. He retired with the rank of lieutenant general and was awarded the Order of Karl Marx. He served in the Thuringian border police, rose to the rank of colonel and chief of police. He taught Russian in Dresden, where he died in 1980.

Willy frenger

Willy Frenger was considered the best pilot on the Northern Front, a real ace. By the time of the capture, he made 900 sorties, shot down 36 aircraft. He was awarded the German Cross in gold. Oberfeldwebel Willy Frenger, ace of the Luftwaffe from the 6 squadron of the 5 th fighter squadron was shot down by fighter pilot Boris Safonov in the Murmansk region of 17 in May 1942 of the year. He managed to jump on a parachute, and was captured. During the interrogation, Frenger willingly answered all questions, but at the same time he held himself confidently, and claimed that it was not the Soviet fighters who had shot him down, but his own. Gave valuable information about the deployment of German airfields.

In 1943, Frenger, as a saboteur, was thrown into the German rear to hijack the new Messerschmitt Bf109G, but as soon as Willy was on German territory, he immediately surrendered to his own. After checking and confrontation with the former commander, Frenger was reinstated and returned to service, transferring to the Western Front. The personality is rather dark and little is known about it.

Edmund "Paul" Rossman

Since childhood, who loved aviation, Rossman graduated from the flight school in 1940 and was enrolled in the 7 squadron of the 52 fighter squadron. Participated in the French campaign and in the battle for England, shot down 6 aircraft. In June, Rossman’s 1941 was transferred to the Soviet-German front, and by the end of this year he had 32 victories. He was wounded in his right hand, and could no longer conduct agile battles, as before. From 1942, Rossman began flying with a wingman, Erich Hartmann. Hartmann is considered the most productive ace of the Luftwaffe. By the end of the war, 352 won on his account, and nobody managed to beat this record.

9 July 1943, the Messerschmitt Rossman and Hartmann were shot down in the Belgorod area. By this time, Edmund Rossman had 93 victories on his account and was awarded the "Knight's Iron Cross." During the interrogation he willingly answered all questions, spoke about new models of German aircraft. According to Rossman, one of his pilots flew over the front line, and he made an emergency landing to pick up a pilot. But then the Soviet anti-aircraft gunners arrived and captured Rossman. However, according to another version, the flight across the border was made intentionally. Rossman actively collaborated with the Soviet authorities, was released from captivity in 1949. He died in Germany in 2005 year.

Egbert von Frankenberg und Proshlitz

Born in 1909 in Strasbourg, in a military family. He graduated from the flight school and in 1932, he became a member of the SS. He volunteered in the Spanish Civil War as commander of the Luftwaffe. In the year 1941, when Germany attacked the Soviet Union, Frankenberg was sent to the Eastern Front as a major, commodore.

In the spring of 1943, Frankenberg was taken prisoner and immediately agreed to cooperate with the Soviets. After some time, the Germans heard his speech on the radio, in which he called on German troops not to fight on the side of the “criminal regime”, but to unite with the Russians and together build a new, socialist life. Soon Frankenberg became one of the founders of the National Committee "Free Germany", as well as the "Association of German officers." Later both organizations played an important role in the development of the government of post-war East Germany.
Frankenberg returned to Germany in 1948, and until 1990, he was active in politics within the Democratic Party of Germany.

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Luftwaffe - a huge organization that includes not only fighter pilots, but also mechanics, technicians, engineers, radio operators, communications operators, and so on. In addition, anti-aircraft and airborne troops also belonged to the Luftwaffe. As part of this military organization, there were tens, hundreds of thousands of people. Here are only the most famous facts of the betrayal of the Germans, and how many were actually difficult to answer now. The personal files of many German officers are kept in the archives of the Ministry of Defense and can certainly provide many more interesting materials about the Great Patriotic War.
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  1. fennekRUS
    fennekRUS 2 December 2013 08: 46
    +5
    stored in the archives of the Ministry of Defense and probably can provide a lot of interesting materials about the Great Patriotic War - neither take away nor add. bow to all who seek the truth
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 December 2013 08: 54
    +1
    In just a month of fighting near Stalingrad, he shot down a Soviet aircraft 31, for which he was awarded the German Cross in gold.


    Was there such a cross? It seems he was called differently.
    1. Gamdlislyam
      Gamdlislyam 2 December 2013 09: 36
      +7
      I agree, dear colleague aszzz888, the article, to put it mildly, is illiterate. The author seems to have "heard the ringing, but does not know where he is." In any case, Maria Romakhina did not touch the archival documents. The article put a minus.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 December 2013 10: 13
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        but relations with the communists quickly deteriorated
        collaborating with the Bolsheviks
        The Germans revealed a traitor
        The person is quite dark, and little is known about him..
        Soviet anti-aircraft gunners arrived in time and captured Rossman

        For example, I can’t understand who the author of this article is and what views he holds, but the topic is certainly very interesting.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 15: 40
        +1
        I also didn’t like the article, defectors are a slightly different concept, and here we talk about those who were shot down and captured. Not a plus, not a minus, an article on a weak three. hi
      3. V. Musinsky.
        V. Musinsky. 2 December 2013 20: 32
        +2
        You softened the wording somewhat: in some places the article is just disgusting, its appearance also speaks of the editorial discretion.
        V. Musinsky.
        1. svp67
          svp67 2 December 2013 23: 24
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I also didn’t like the article,

          Quote: V. Musinsky.
          the article is just disgusting in some places,

          I don’t understand anything, okay, the fact that the article is “anti-Soviet” is also “anti-Russian”, the German pilots did not go over to our side, they remained Germans, leaving the ideology of National Socialism ...
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    3. Klim podkova
      Klim podkova 2 December 2013 12: 22
      +5
      Quote: In just one month of fighting near Stalingrad, he shot down a Soviet plane with the 31, for which he was awarded the German Cross in gold.

      Was there such a cross? It seems he was called differently. (End quote)

      FROM THE HISTORY.
      "Kriegsorden der Deutschen Kreuzei". Established on September 28, 1941 as an interim award between the First Class Iron Cross and the Knight's Cross. The designer was the Munich jeweler Klein. The award was issued in two types: the Gold German Cross for courage in battles and the silver - for achievements not related to open confrontation with the enemy. In 1942, the Gold German Cross with Diamonds was also established.
      The award could be received by both military personnel and employees of auxiliary institutions: police, railway workers, firefighters, civil administration employees in the occupied territories. When receiving the German Cross, SS troops were automatically awarded the "Dead's Head" ring. A cross was handed over in a place with a corresponding document in a black box, worn on the right jacket pocket.
      The Germanic cross was the most difficult in the production of German awards and consisted of five components.
      According to the latest information, 24204 was awarded a German citizen and at least 14 foreigners. The distribution is as follows: the ground forces are 14639 people, Kriegsmarine are 1481, the Luftwaffe are 7248, the police and the SS are 822.
    4. novobranets
      novobranets 2 December 2013 16: 56
      +1
      cross
      It was like that.
  3. malikszh
    malikszh 2 December 2013 09: 41
    +2
    interesting benefit was from the agitation of captured Germans to the howling Germans? or they saved their lives in such a way there’s no use but they’re eating like our soldiers
    1. V. Musinsky.
      V. Musinsky. 2 December 2013 20: 38
      +1
      Maliksha, the known benefit of such agitation was when a turning point occurred in the war. Once, to a surrounded group, ours released something about 600 prisoners. About 200 people returned, but they brought about 2000 people with them.
      V. Musinsky.
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  5. bairat
    bairat 2 December 2013 10: 05
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    I do not see a single defector, all were taken prisoner in battle. And there were those who flew over the front line and voluntarily sat on our airfields.
    1. V. Musinsky.
      V. Musinsky. 2 December 2013 20: 43
      +1
      Bairat, somewhere around Victory Day, our pilots encountered a group of pilots who clearly did not want to shoot. Our pilots led them to the airport. They sat down, got out of the cabs and sat on the planes. The airfield was German, captured by our troops.
    2. Archibald
      Archibald 2 December 2013 21: 06
      0
      It is unlikely that it was.
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  7. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 2 December 2013 10: 20
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    In just a month of fighting near Stalingrad, he shot down a Soviet aircraft 31, for which he was awarded the German Cross in gold.


    Was there such a cross? It seems he was called differently.

    Probably, I mean the so-called "scrambled eggs".
  8. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 2 December 2013 10: 32
    +1
    To be honest, I don't understand the meaning of this article. Show that they are not "superhumans" - as we already know it. Traitors have always been in all armies.
  9. Schmidt
    Schmidt 2 December 2013 10: 42
    +7
    Article minus: all in a bunch - both Herman Graf and Schulze-Boysen ... At least one "ran over" and then flew to the Air Force KA or, more precisely, flew over))) But our "falcons", some of the Bychkov type, even having fought before the 43rd and having received the title of GSS, they also managed to "fly" for the third Reich (((
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 2 December 2013 11: 58
      +1
      Something like about eighty people flew to the Germans during the war years, well, of course, from this it is necessary to take into account forced landings, most likely ... I wonder what the ratio was between them and our "pilots"?
  10. Nayhas
    Nayhas 2 December 2013 10: 44
    +8
    The author frankly confuses concepts. A defector is someone who voluntarily crossed the front line to surrender. Not the one who was forced to be surrounded or captured, but the one who did it out of personal conviction. The one whom the author wrote about ordinary traitors ...
  11. Nayhas
    Nayhas 2 December 2013 10: 44
    0
    The author frankly confuses concepts. A defector is someone who voluntarily crossed the front line to surrender. Not the one who was forced to be surrounded or captured, but the one who did it out of personal conviction. The one whom the author wrote about ordinary traitors ...
    1. V. Musinsky.
      V. Musinsky. 2 December 2013 20: 53
      +2
      Nayhas, you got it mixed up too. The prisoner was not yet a traitor, unlike Stalin's opinion. There were prisoners who, even after years, remained faithful to the fascist idea. There were also prisoners (and not only prisoners!), Who quickly realized that the fascist regime would lead Germany to catastrophe, and decided to fight it to save their country. What are these traitors !? By the way, some officers joined the "Free Germany" after making sure that this is a non-communist organization.
  12. Stas57
    Stas57 2 December 2013 11: 44
    +3
    Is Harro Schulze-Boysen a defector? wow, and where did he run away?
    Herman Graf, where did he run?
    etc.



    Quote: Nayhas
    The author frankly confuses concepts.


    Quote: Schmidt
    Article minus: everything in the heap, and Hermann Graf, and Schulze-Boysen ..

    absolutely true
  13. Schmidt
    Schmidt 2 December 2013 11: 57
    0
    What, for example, is the same Count "traitor"? It can be called a victim of propaganda, but in his native land in the local "Book of Wonderful Compatriots" his connection with the Nationalkomitee Freies Deutschland is mentioned, which means there was soil (given his social origin).
  14. Pooh
    Pooh 2 December 2013 12: 13
    +3
    Yeah ... With the author's knowledge of the materiel "not so hot")) .. I know, of course, about the existence of several parties in the GDR, except for the SED ... but I can't remember the Democratic Party of the GDR ...
    1. V. Musinsky.
      V. Musinsky. 2 December 2013 20: 55
      0
      Pooh, there were 4 games in the GDR. The Democratic Party of the GDR united ... former fascists.
      V. Musinsky.
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  16. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 2 December 2013 12: 28
    +3
    An officer who fought for a long time, and then, being captured and suddenly "regained his sight," and went over to the side of the enemy, does not command respect, whether he is Russian or German.
  17. lars
    lars 2 December 2013 13: 38
    0
    "The Luftwaffe is a huge organization that includes not only fighter pilots, but also mechanics, technicians, engineers, radio operators, communications and so on."
    In "and so on", it seems that bomber pilots and aerial reconnaissance should be included. Well, for a change winked
    1. igordok
      igordok 2 December 2013 15: 05
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      Quote: lars
      In "and so on", it seems that bomber pilots and aerial reconnaissance should be included. Well, for a change

      For a change you forgot to specify: punishers from airfield divisions (at least the 21 division), guards of prisoner of war camps (at least the Stalag-372 Pleskau).
  18. rennim
    rennim 2 December 2013 13: 43
    +3
    If you count all the Soviet planes shot down by the Germans in the Second World War, then their number will several times exceed the number produced during the entire time of Soviet power. Just some "heroes" ...
    1. iConst
      iConst 2 December 2013 15: 57
      +3
      Franz-Josef Beerenbrock

      ... In total, he made more than 400 sorties and shot down 117 aircraft.

      Quote: rennim
      If you count all the Soviet planes shot down by the Germans in the Second World War, then their number will several times exceed the number produced during the entire time of Soviet power. Just some "heroes" ...

      I read a study (I don’t remember which one) of a British historian who noted that the counting of victories in the Luftwaffe (with Goering's connivance) was clearly inadequate.

      So, the pilot could declare victory with no other evidence than his own story. "The officer's honor" was the guarantee.

      In addition, destroyed planes were recorded as victories, which left the battle and were not "finished off". But it is known that a significant part of such aircraft got to airfields or were forced to land on their territory, then returned to service.
      The planes "destroyed" on the ground were also counted, which also my grandmother said in two.

      Our pilots often had an underestimated score, because in order to fix the victory there had to be undeniable evidence: other pilots or ground services.
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 2 December 2013 16: 17
        0
        similar situevina on all sides, at certain stages, and options like-
        "after hitting, the plane went down heavily smoking, apparently it can be considered shot down"
        not rare.
        this is logical, when you turn your head on 360, you just have to look at who and how fell ...
        well, the landowners could ascribe to themselves, often reading documents found on 1 brought down 2-and even 3 applicant.
        and among tank crews as well, any participant in a combined-arms battle ascribes a tank to himself, because he shot and fired, and tankers and artillerymen and foot soldiers
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 18: 34
        +3
        Quote: iConst
        "The officer's honor" was the guarantee.

        As in the joke about Vasily Ivanovich - the Lord, we are all gentlemen here. Here I got into the cards and ...
      3. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 2 December 2013 23: 10
        0
        The number of engines on a downed aircraft was taken into account, a bomber shot down plus 2
  19. Black
    Black 2 December 2013 15: 20
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    [i] At home, he was considered to be a traitor to the end, and the Soviet Union was indifferent to him.
    [/ I]

    well then! saving the skin, he remembered the words of his grandfather, still very much repented, and ... deserved our love for life ??
    He is a bastard.
  20. Black
    Black 2 December 2013 15: 20
    0
    [i] At home, he was considered to be a traitor to the end, and the Soviet Union was indifferent to him.
    [/ I]

    well then! saving the skin, he remembered the words of his grandfather, still very much repented, and ... deserved our love for life ??
    He is a bastard.
    1. Angry reader
      Angry reader 2 December 2013 20: 47
      0
      Useful bastard.
  21. mithridate
    mithridate 2 December 2013 15: 42
    0
    the article recalls stories for children of the 70-80s. Somehow everything is primitive-popular
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  23. Snoop
    Snoop 2 December 2013 18: 10
    +2
    It seems that they wrote an article in the West - the Bolsheviks, the Communists)))))
    I also agree, where are the defectors? These are all captured, with the exception of Boyzen.
    And there were defectors, I read in the memoirs of our veteran pilots, but mostly German pilots began to fly over and land at our airfields in 44-45. smell fried)))
  24. catapractic
    catapractic 2 December 2013 18: 15
    0
    these are not defectors, here is Alfred Liskov the defector
  25. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 2 December 2013 18: 17
    +4
    Good evening !!!! There is a very nasty. for me personally, fact, the Nazis did not fight against their own. E. were talking, agitating. they helped, but did not fight. Also, all fascist veterans very much regret the war with the USSR ....... under the command of Hitler. Most fascists believe that Hitler is a bad military commander, so they lost to V.O.V. They do not regret or repent of all the atrocities that they caused to the Soviet people.
  26. Fitter
    Fitter 2 December 2013 20: 02
    +2
    The article is very similar to the "interlinear" translation of an article from a "foreign" magazine :). In terms of vocabulary and meaning.
    1. Pattern
      Pattern 2 November 2017 17: 30
      0
      Totally agree with you.
  27. Archibald
    Archibald 2 December 2013 21: 05
    0
    So I thought that among the German pilots not a single defector was not. All were captured after landing on enemy territory.
  28. basmach
    basmach 2 December 2013 22: 38
    0
    But what the hell did they have to run to us. The Luftwaffe pilots were pragmatic and prudent guys, well aware that they would be held captive in Russian for their deeds. Therefore, they preferred to run across to the Yankees. Examples: please;
    1. In the morning of May 8, the JG-54 "Grunherz" aircraft (with the "green asses" painted over since March 43) took off from the airfields of Courland and rushed to Hamburg, into the zone of the Anglo-American occupation, where they surrendered safely (with the exception of a few people who sat down in Denmark and Sweden and handed over to our authorities).
    2.Rudel, who took a risk and flew with his squadron to the Americans (moreover, almost all aircraft were deliberately damaged during landing) and surrendered to them (and who did not dare to fly and were poisoned in vehicles and without weapons were destroyed by "brave Czech partisans") So German pilots did not seek to fly to us, as in general, and die in battles for their homeland (not at the beginning of the war, and even more so not at the end), since, according to the testimonies and statements of many captured pilots, the war for them was a great hunt or sport , the main thing is to shoot more.
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  30. bublic82009
    bublic82009 2 December 2013 22: 59
    +1
    Well, this article is not really about defectors. they were captured and they agreed to cooperate. a real defector is when he sided with the enemy voluntarily with weapons in his hands.
  31. Fitter65
    Fitter65 3 December 2013 01: 26
    0
    In general, the material is not bad (just not bad), but it was presented very, very h.re.no.vo.In the 80s, when I first read about the descendant of Bismarck, in which I remember which magazine the article there was much more interesting and written in more detail .
  32. antibanukurayza
    antibanukurayza 5 December 2013 08: 29
    0
    the author correctly named his article "Defectors ...". Shot down, taken prisoner and ran towards the enemy. And if he himself turned away from the battle and voluntarily sat down on an enemy airfield, then the article would be titled "Flyers ..." lol
  33. Pattern
    Pattern 2 November 2017 17: 29
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    Once again I read the translation of "works" of foreign authors. He calculated the number of victories of German pilots ... It turned out that they five defeated the Red Army Air Force in 1941. Germany fought not with Russia, but with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I note a very big difference in definitions. The prisoners collaborated not with the Bolsheviks, but with the command of the Red Army. In the winter of 1943, the 3rd Ukrainian Front did not exist! In general, I summarize the article- HALTURE! Many readers of the Military Review website have the desire to see actual historical research.
  34. Semen_ku
    Semen_ku 3 November 2017 12: 59
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    "he commanded the 52nd fighter squadron"
    Yes, not a squadron (10-12 aircraft), but a squadron (about 106 aircraft).
    In general, the article knows what the hell. And there is not one defector here.
  35. Turist1996
    Turist1996 12 October 2018 20: 58
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    This passage in the article betrays all the author's subtleties: "The count spent five years in Soviet captivity, collaborating with the Bolsheviks."
    Just keep quiet ..
    Not only did the concept of "Bolshevik" completely lose its meaning during the Second World War, for there were no longer any "Mensheviks" from the CPSU in principle .. So also the very structure of the sentence: "spent in SOVIET captivity, cooperating with BOLSHEVIKS" clearly betrays Western narrow-mindedness in understanding the realities of the history of the USSR.
    It sounds something like to say about our captive: I held captive in Western countries, collaborating with capitalists.