The end of the lie about the "super-weapon"

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The end of the lie about the "super-weapon"


So often in recent years there has been a lie about “super-weapons"That the Japanese could not stand and stated - we are just starting to create what your technologically-lagging countries have allegedly been working for a long time.

Who are you, the Japanese are asking. You are technological technicians ...

Oranges will not be born from aspen, and therefore, it is easy to cope with technological lies: if a country does not produce components, computers, does not create new technologies - in communications (communications), aviation, computer science, is not able to use them for research in medicine, the creation of new types of materials - she is not able to create a "super-weapon."

The leader in terms of "technological lies" - Iran.

There was a time when the Persians created new missiles and anti-missiles weekly, Drones, airplanes.

Their characteristics are always the same - they are “no worse than” in the developed countries of the world, often “better”, and always “able to destroy the enemy in any part of the world,” not to mention that they, of course, reach the borders of Israel.

Iranian drones can even shoot down air-to-air missiles - this illiterate nonsense does not even want to comment.

The latest invention of Iranian lies - the drone is not worse than the United States, and they begin to mass production.

How? Not having a tooling?

The Persians do not care - it is enough for them to say something encouraging to their people.

And the December 2011 of the year was an encouragement for them, when the Americans lost their latest drone Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel ("Sentinel") over western Afghanistan.

Ironically, he fell into Iranian territory - fell in a forested mountainous area, “breaking his legs”.

Iran tried to extract maximum benefit from this state of emergency: first, a demonstration of the wounded Sentinel was held, and then it was announced that Iran would create the same plane.

Can Iran produce a copy of the drone? Not able to.

And not only Iran is not capable - no one is capable: a drone is miniature optics, electronic equipment and programs. PRO All this is not copied.

If someone is able to copy a high-tech weapon, that is unbeatable - an advanced aircraft, tank, telephone, computer, you can always buy.

Try, copy ...

Illiterate media said: all - the end of the Americans came to an end, their apparatus will now copy the Russian and Chinese.

It's almost 2, and where are the copies?

But Iran is not alone: ​​in the group of “technological liars”, all those who are not capable of creating modern weapons.

These are Turkey, North Korea, Venezuela, Syria, even China with its “best in the world” a tank».

In their set - rockets and drones that have become fashionable.

Russia stands apart.

Separately - since this country knew weapon success, for many decades it created advanced rocket technology, tanks, airplanes.

The USSR, in particular, was the ancestor of MANPADS - man-portable air defense systems designed for transportation and firing by one person.

The first samples of MANPADS were developed in the 1960-ies for the Egyptian army and were first used in hostilities in the 1969 year during the Arab-Israeli war.

But, as is known, neither MANPADS, nor tanks, nor Soviet-made airplanes, nor the Egyptians, nor the Syrians helped.

It was from that time, according to experts in the field of armaments, that Soviet weapons were no longer the best - both Americans, Europeans, and the Israelis themselves began to develop more effective weapons - based on new weapon technologies.

Today, the world leader in the overwhelming majority of weapons is the United States.

Israel is a leader in the creation and export of unmanned aerial vehicles, one of the leaders in avionics, equipment, small arms, tanks, radars, electronic protection systems, electronic intelligence and EW.

USA and Israel are competing today in the development of Stealth technology for unmanned aircraft.

The corporation Israel Aerospace Industries, which developed the unmanned aerial vehicles Heron and Eitan, intended both for remote reconnaissance operations and for attack of large objects, has created an unmanned aerial vehicle using the Stealth technology - the technology of "reduction of visibility".

This allows a large combat vehicle to be hardly noticeable in the radar, infrared and other areas of the detection spectrum.

When in one of the Russian TV reports, the commander of the newest installation, Triumph C-400, stated that he had shot down all the missiles and even stealth planes, including the pilotless, world gunsmiths at the exercises, smiled.

To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.

There are no other countries on this list - and, given the technological level of countries, there can be no others.

With all due respect to the gunsmiths of Russia - stories Soviet and Russian weapons, the technological level of the country does not allow the creation of opposition systems Stealth technology.

Moreover, Stealth technology itself is moving forward - today it is not at all like the one that was first used by Americans a quarter of a century ago.

By the way, the author of the physical fundamentals of low visibility is the Soviet theoretical theoretical physicist Peter Yakovlevich Ufimtsev, who moved to live in the USA, where he developed the theory of diffraction of electromagnetic waves. The logical end of the lie about the "super-weapons" backward countries put Japan, announcing that she has started to create a radar for detecting subtle aircraft.

After this statement, you will not find a single piece of "technological lies" in the triumphant reports of the Losers countries.

After the world technology leader, Japan, which is not yet capable of detecting and destroying “invisible beings,” it became inconvenient to make boastful statements.

True, gunsmiths much confuses and in the statement of the Japanese.

In particular, they point out that the new radar systems will be aimed primarily at detecting possible Chinese unobtrusive air targets, in particular, J-20 type fighters.

But J-20 does not possess the properties of an invisible aircraft - except in the boastful speeches of the Chinese themselves.

The development of the Japanese led the Japanese air control system radars located on Miyako Island to 13 in December. 2012 failed to detect a Chinese reconnaissance aircraft flying over the Senkaku archipelago claimed by China and Japan.

And in September, 2013, a Chinese unmanned aerial vehicle was not detected that invaded the air defense system recognition zone of Japan.

Detect drones can only while American and Israeli radar.

But they will also be powerless before the new technology of stealth, which has already been developed and is being tested in the USA for aerodynamic aircraft and ballistic missiles.

I deliberately do not comment on the statements of the opponents of the United States that they are creating weapons that, supposedly, are capable of breaking through any defenses of the enemy, and even after 40 years they cannot cope with these missiles.

Those who are a quarter of a century behind the developed countries declare it, and they simply cannot assume what the US anti-missile systems and other leaders will be in 40 years.

And, besides the ignorance of technology, the opponents of the United States make a grave mistake, believing that all these 40 years the United States will sit with their arms bound.

Now, when you hear boastful words that someone’s weapon is "at the level of the best world standards" or even "has no analogues", smile ...
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  1. +63
    2 December 2013 06: 15
    Wow! "What pё-e-lynchs, what bass and you can see the angelic voice should be" ...
    Yeah, I sang it so sang - I'll go shoot myself for hell ... after all, the polymers have come through again.)))

    As in that song of the Turkish woman in "pure" Russian in the chorus - "seem to be a feather, seem to fart"))) However, I checked it, but not everyone hears - they are dragged by foreign music ... fellow
    1. +34
      2 December 2013 06: 23
      Author Yuval Kraisky- if at the beginning of the article it was written it would not even read Yes
      1. Genera
        +30
        2 December 2013 06: 38
        It's just ... nonsense. "Even a fool when he is silent is considered a wise man" - this is advice to Yuval Kreisky.
        1. +23
          2 December 2013 06: 50
          sometimes it's better to chew than talk ...
          1. +3
            3 December 2013 05: 21
            today the newest over-the-horizon "container" radar took over on duty good
        2. +35
          2 December 2013 07: 50
          To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

          "Only the United States, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.

          There are no other countries on this list - and, given the technological level of countries, there can be no others.

          With all due respect to the gunsmiths of Russia - the history of Soviet and Russian weapons, the technological level of the country does not allow the creation of a system of confrontation with Stealth technology. "Into the furnace S-300, S-400, and in general everything is in the furnace, everything is gone, everything is gone (as you guessed I'm getting lost, the author is burning)
          1. +28
            2 December 2013 10: 02
            evgenii67 ... "Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France can create them.

            Why did you forget about Poland ?!
            1. +28
              2 December 2013 11: 02
              Quote: askort154
              evgenii67 ... "Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France can create them.

              Why did you forget about Poland ?!


              Georgia, Georgia more))))
              1. +9
                2 December 2013 14: 12
                Georgia, Georgia more))))

                And exhausted one republicaaa. No two. These are Estonia and Lithuania.
                1. +5
                  2 December 2013 17: 47
                  And what about Latvia? lol
                  1. +2
                    2 December 2013 22: 04
                    Quote: vlad767
                    And what about Latvia?


                    No, it's just that everyone is aware of the unusual properties of the VEF transistor in the right hands! laughing
                    1. 0
                      24 December 2013 18: 13
                      VEF with vertical take-off which? :)))))
          2. +12
            2 December 2013 11: 49
            Yes, I forgot to add, but it was not an old Soviet rocket that knocked down that super-duper "at that time" stealth technology plane in Yugoslavia (why "" because I don't think that the stealth technology has improved and the dispersion area has decreased dozens of times), if the Americans so cool, why do they buy rocket engines in Russia? Yes, in general, such a .. er from the author's side, he would also write "with spears, we are fighting with spears"
            1. +2
              3 December 2013 01: 57
              That's x ... what are we selling to the Americans engines and technologies that Chubys have not yet managed to sell (so that his parents hiccuped).
              1. 0
                24 December 2013 18: 16
                Rosoboronexport will deliver in the United States a billion rounds
                Friday, April 26, 15: 57
                Private US companies have signed a contract with Rosoboronexport for the supply of nearly a billion rounds. This was reported by the Izvestia newspaper. According to experts, the US domestic market is now experiencing a shortage of ammunition. This is due to the fact that the government, in the framework of military orders, bought a significant part of such products in bulk.

                Che there engines they do not have enough cartridges and you're talking about engines :)
          3. +7
            2 December 2013 17: 55
            In addition, the F-117 over Yugoslavia, were shot down by the "telegraph poles" of the C-75, so the author -> author -> author study materiel, cosmopolitan and you are our reader fool
            1. +5
              2 December 2013 19: 25
              Quote: Val_Y
              In addition, the F-117 over Yugoslavia, were shot down by the "telegraph poles" of the C-75, so the author -> author -> author study materiel, cosmopolitan and you are our reader


              F-117 shot down from the S-125, so that you would not hurt about the materiel. wink
        3. -4
          2 December 2013 14: 03
          Quote: Genera
          It's just .... nonsense.


          This is claimed by those who are a quarter of a century behind developed countries,

          This is not nonsense, but the result of "efficiency" from the transition to a capitalist system, with the corresponding consequences for the economy and defense capability of Russia. request
          1. ytqnhfk
            +2
            2 December 2013 17: 53
            A skeptic is against the backdrop of production (afar.oronezh t 50 su 34 development of a hangar. Shell. With 400 and many other things that you can’t take into account immediately))
            1. +2
              4 December 2013 18: 58
              Quote: ytqnhfk
              A skeptic is against the backdrop of production (afar.oronezh t 50 su 34 development of a hangar. Shell. With 400 and many other things that you can’t take into account immediately))


              This is against the background of collapsed production in the country and a huge reduction in productive forces, a significant reduction in the country's defense potential. And the fact that they haven’t completely collapsed can certainly be rejoiced.
        4. +17
          2 December 2013 15: 09
          An ordinary fighter of the information war, this Yuval from the Israeli Stop News ....
          Rather, not an ordinary private, but from the "junior command staff".

          Information Atelier-Agency Stop-News

          CEO: Boris Gelfenbuym

          Deputy General Director Vlad Khmelnitsky

          Editor-in-chief: Boris Stolyarov

          Editors:
          Alexey Berenius
          Igor Dmitrievsky
          Mikhail Malinsky
          Yuval Kraisky

          Analysts:
          Edgar Wereiski (Germany)
          Elijah Pletinsky

          Bureau of Political Expertise: Oleg Orlovsky

          Hydrocarbon Bureau: Alexey Berenius

          Bureau of Modern Arms: Yuval Kraisky

          Bureau of Science, Hi Tech, Internet: Leonid Dunaevsky-Berman

          Health and Diet Bureau: Solomon Key

          Bureau of Economics and Finance: Boris Gelfenbuym

          News Office:
          Vlad Landau
          Ivan Nikolaychuk (Moscow)
          Ilse Pauls-Bronstein
          Alex Varyan (USA)
          Lenik Weiss

          Bureau Arab East: Alim Mantullin

          Sports Bureau: Eduard Pribylovsky

          Bureau Auto World: Vadim Krylovetsky

          Life style:
          Agnia Netochkina
          Lydia Kaledina

          Editorial Processing Bureau: Svetlana Korik

          Legal support: Lawyer Irina Gelfenbuym

          Project development and technical support: Irina Khmelnitskaya

          Source http://stop-news.com/

          Everything falls into place as soon as you find out what kind of "expert" provides such analytics.

          "World arms manufacturers smiled! ..."
          Brad for the demented.
          1. 0
            2 December 2013 16: 42
            Well, yes, those same love (same) say that we have nothing to do in Venezuela.
            Yeah, give the richest oil reserves to the comrades in the USA from AIPAC.
            Members of the House of Representatives and Senate passed legislation that seeks to dramatically strengthen the strategic partnership between the US and Israel as they work to confront new challenges and threats in the Middle East. The US-Israel Strategic Partnership Act 2013 (HR 938 and S. 462) - Created by Members of the House of Representatives Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FZ) and Ted Deutch (D-FL) in the House and Senators Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Roy Blunt (R-MO) in the Senate - identifies Israel as "the main strategic partner "The United States. The bill expands US-Israeli cooperation in a variety of fields, including defense, intelligence, homeland security, energy, science, and commerce."
            http://www.aipac.org/learn/legislative-agenda/agenda-display?agendaid={D9F4B5E3-

            4883-4800-97FB-7D5655789AAA}
            ... there is a lot of this and about everything, this is just one quote.
            1. 0
              24 December 2013 18: 05
              But Israel is an ungrateful beast! Stalin tore the veins, climbed out of his skin for the sake of Israel ... But he sold himself to the Americans with giblets.
          2. +4
            2 December 2013 16: 47
            An excellent showdown of the mask of the former dissidents, I knew, their deceitful hands.
            They, it is they who are trying to influence our public consciousness, they have a whole industry doing this.
            Starting with trainee journalists and ending with the ministry, I forgot what it is called.
          3. +2
            2 December 2013 16: 49
            American Public Relations Committee Israel
            Non-profit organization
            Israel's American Public Relations Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israeli politics in Congress and the executive branch of the United States. Current AIPAC President Michael Kassen from Westport, Connecticut. Wikipedia
            CEO: Howard Cor
            Founder: Isaiah L. Kenen
            Founded: 1951
            Assets: 105100000 USD (2011)
            Income: 78790000 billion USD (2011)
            This AIPAC is just one of the most influential lobbying Jewish organizations in the US that actually already run foreign policy.
          4. +1
            2 December 2013 18: 42
            it seems he wanted a prize from his owners, since such a work is high ... oh, he popped it out. licked it, he licked it! now shsha and other developed countries can save a lot of dough on toilet paper lol
          5. 0
            3 December 2013 02: 24
            Lönick Weiss and Boria Gelfenbuym, Solomon Key and Izza Pauls-Bronstein ...
            why say something ??
      2. +4
        2 December 2013 08: 12
        Let's just say this in different ways, the question is not only in technology but also in proper application. We cannot create a drone, but here the question is in resources and not in the absence of technology.
      3. DimychDV
        +11
        2 December 2013 08: 44
        This is with us - world armourers. And gunsmiths from other countries of the world simply twisted a good face with a bad game. They sell their systems mainly due to PIAR technologies. Well, and not least - thanks to the good R&D costs. World (our) gunsmiths manage to achieve the same results - for those pennies that they have been paid so far. And if the country pays them more? ..
      4. +16
        2 December 2013 11: 42
        The author is whistling as if he himself was at the factories of Iran, China and Russia, and he personally saw the results of the developments, reasoning at the amateur level without any evidence.

        Europeans also thought about America in the 12-15th century, it is not there! - why? - because it is not on the map! brilliantly simple!

        what did Europeans think about nomads in the 13th century until the Mongols came to them?

        ffii! dirty pastoralists, can such savages create a large army, the best bow in the world, beat from afar to penetrate armor with incredible accuracy, can they create siege vehicles? take cities with a large population?

        as they say to underestimate the enemy - it’s similar to death, it’s also stupid to argue that others who do not create electronics can pile on you.

        let the United States think about Vietnam, the peasant army with Kalash and only defeated the Americans with their powerful fleet of weapons, aircraft. Nobody canceled the fighting spirit.
    2. +14
      2 December 2013 06: 38
      Strong blow, of course ....
      So far, we have enough brains to create nuclear missiles, with which we can erase everything into atoms, that’s what we are now standing for.
      And in geopolitics they gave odds to everyone, and we earn money against this background, and Venezuela with the largest oil reserves in the world is our client, and consider our oil, but for now there are no alternatives to oil, we will all pay money, and we will need the technology and steal it, and if we have money from oil, we’ll buy it.
      So there are prospects ... And not bad, and China, stealing technology by lawlessness, is our ally.
      1. DimychDV
        +7
        2 December 2013 08: 37
        And we’ll steal the Saudis from the staff! And whoever we want to have in 888, we have lope in the capitals of promising youth! Tomorrow we will whistle - the military registration and enlistment offices of all LGBT people will call - and then hold on, Western liberalists !!!
      2. rolik
        +1
        2 December 2013 14: 54
        Quote: mirag2
        China, stealing technology for lawlessness, is our ally.

        Let's just say trying to lyamzit them))))) And so, while stealing successfully, only the appearance.
      3. Walker1975
        +1
        2 December 2013 20: 01
        And why are there not enough brains to create a computer processor? RAM? Winchester (which hard drive)? Motherboard? good network routers are also something not Russian ... Yes, I just can’t create a normal car. A TV from its details ... So I think, why do Russians think that they can create something MEGA-MEGA, but they cannot create the simple things listed above?

        PS How many foreign components are there in the Superjet?
        1. +1
          2 December 2013 22: 16
          Quote: Walker1975
          And why are there not enough brains to create a computer processor?

          And who do you think created all these pentiums, celerons and other clones of the brainchild of Professor Pentkovsky? And how many Russian materials are there in a Boeing? Russia does not produce consumer goods? So what's wrong with that?
    3. +13
      2 December 2013 12: 17
      Quote: Tartary
      trudge from foreign music


      Poles, they are such Poles ...
      1. +5
        2 December 2013 12: 19
        Quote: Cherdak
        Poles, they are such Poles ...

        Yeah, the plane crashed in a symbolic place ... laughing It makes me think. drinks
    4. +1
      2 December 2013 17: 43
      With all due respect to Russia's gunsmiths — the history of Soviet and Russian weapons, the country's technological level does not allow the creation of Stealth technology opposition systems.

      I read it before and realized further it makes no sense to read.
      F-117 (80-ies) shot down a missile from the complex S-125 (60-ies) without even special radars
    5. +1
      2 December 2013 17: 55
      From the afftor: "Special radars are needed to shoot down stealth planes!" laugh out loud, let the author of this maxim to the Serbian lieutenant colonel tell you who, with a radar of the 1960s, with an S-75 rocket, filled up "invulnerable, invisible, well protected from detection and so on, and so on, and so on ..." F-117 in 1999 ... And we will all laugh together ...
    6. Angry reader
      +4
      2 December 2013 20: 05
      The next article probably announces the Polish Death Star)) ... PSHIK-1 (KURVA)
      1. Van
        +1
        2 December 2013 21: 10
        As the article says, you need to smile after each such statement about the different super-duper pieces there, well, well, we'll see who will smile last. wassat bully soldier
  2. +17
    2 December 2013 06: 28
    Okay, I can still agree about drones and some other weapons. But, our breakthrough missile defense technologies will be ahead of American efforts in this area for a long time.
    1. 77bob1973
      +2
      2 December 2013 12: 40
      As well as jamming technology. Well "author -> author -> avtor" (God forgive me) also put Russia apart and not all "inept" in one pile raked.
      1. vthrehbq
        +3
        2 December 2013 14: 20
        so take a pole ..
        it is amazing how he did not remember his Poland)))) such as the most advanced country)))))
        1. rolik
          +3
          2 December 2013 14: 56
          Quote: vthrehbq
          it is amazing how he did not remember his Poland)))) such as the most advanced country)))))

          Do you think the Poles would believe him ???))))
      2. vthrehbq
        0
        2 December 2013 14: 20
        so take a pole ..
        it is amazing how he did not remember his Poland)))) such as the most advanced country)))))
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  4. 10kAzAk01
    +12
    2 December 2013 06: 30
    In addition, Stealth technology itself is moving forward.

    With all due respect to Russia's gunsmiths — the history of Soviet and Russian weapons, the country's technological level does not allow the creation of Stealth technology opposition systems.

    F117 in Yugoslavia shot down with guns ??? ... about 5 years ago there was infa that Stealth is generally a dead end branch of development ...
    1. +23
      2 December 2013 09: 16
      The Russian scientist, on the basis of whose work the mattress makers were puffing over the creation of their stealth technology, returning to Russia from the mattress, wrote a paper with the theory of detecting the vaunted "stealth", so for our radars "stealth" did not exist and does not exist, about this, by the way , said the general designer of the S-300, 400, 500 systems laughing
      1. +9
        2 December 2013 09: 51
        the author is sure that mattress covers fly, ride and lay objects with lumpy neutrinos laughing And in Israel there is an invincible Iron bullshit-air defense of all time laughing
      2. andruha70
        +5
        2 December 2013 10: 02
        The Russian scientist, on the basis of whose work the mattress makers were puffing on the creation of their stealth technology, having returned to Russia from the mattress, wrote a paper with the theory of detecting the vaunted "stealth"
        here, here ... also, somewhere, I read - that this "technology" was specially snatched to them lol maybe one of those who know will enlighten about this feel and the second: stealth, stealth ... not noticeable on radars ... but what about the optical range (with super-duper-mega pixels)? and third:
        Oranges won't be born from aspen
        and Japs - it turns out - losers (Fukushima - confirmation of this tongue ) do not know that from a scorpion - potatoes will be born - killing a Colorado potato beetle ... and from a deep-sea flounder - tomatoes that are not afraid of frost minus 10 degrees wassat
      3. +3
        2 December 2013 14: 58
        Quote: Andrey57
        Russian scientist, on the basis of whose work mattress makers were puffing on the creation of their stealth technology, having returned to Russia from mattress, wrote a paper with the theory of detecting the vaunted "stealth",

        ... so for sure, I confirm!
        By the way, he wrote this work in the states, but he was not accepted ...
        In September 2007, Ufimtsev returned to Russia and now lectures on his theory to students of the Physics Department of Moscow State University.
    2. +3
      2 December 2013 11: 03
      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      In addition, Stealth technology itself is moving forward.

      With all due respect to Russia's gunsmiths — the history of Soviet and Russian weapons, the country's technological level does not allow the creation of Stealth technology opposition systems.

      F117 in Yugoslavia shot down with guns ??? ... about 5 years ago there was infa that Stealth is generally a dead end branch of development ...


      Tupikova, they were abandoned because of the fact that the line flies like, missiles of the 60s go astray, and still stands like a tank army ...
    3. rolik
      +5
      2 December 2013 15: 23
      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      . 5 years ago there was infa that Stealth is generally a dead end branch of development ...

      It is not that it would be a dead end, but it cannot create absolute stealth aircraft. As it turned out, back in the sixties in the USSR, studies were conducted on the effectiveness of the ideas proposed by Ufimtsev. Several aircraft design bureaus built aircraft models. Intensive experiments were conducted with them in the laboratories of leading research institutes, according to the results of which engineers came to the conclusion that the design of such machines using the technologies subsequently called by the Americans "stealth", for a number of reasons, is impractical.
      The "invisible plane", made according to the ideas of Ufimtsev, due to its shape has low speed and maneuverability. In fact, this is a hang glider, poorly adapted to combat maneuver and aerobatics. The car can be detected by special design radars. In addition, when opening bombs and in some flight modes, it is visible with conventional radars. This is about the same as painting your car in an inconspicuous gray color in the hope that no one will see it on the road. But at the same time go along it with the headlights on. "
      Ours went a little different way. Nonequilibrium plasma generators successfully passed state tests more than ten years ago. However, in transitional times, the introduction of the installation in aviation was significantly slowed down. “Perhaps there is some blame for this on the part of the institute’s leadership,” said Anatoly Koroteev. Not very actively promoted Baghp in life. It was a difficult time. Funding was declining, military issues were slowing down. ” A slightly different financing situation has developed now. According to rumors at the T50, nonequilibrium plasma generators will be standing, then it really will be stealth in the full sense of the word.
  5. +36
    2 December 2013 06: 30
    Well, well, for centuries we have been in the eyes of such "experts" as barbarians, incapable of anything.
    And for centuries, their army was pulverized.
    The dog barks, the caravan goes.
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  7. Laserson
    +3
    2 December 2013 06: 37
    Well, it would be strange that a country with such an arms budget would not be able to create advanced weapons. Although science is where money is and borrow any other country so much money, you can grow a high-tech drone manufacturer from Nicaragua.
    1. +5
      2 December 2013 10: 59
      The same thoughts visit me. I agree with you. If you inflate the military budget of half a trillion dollars, then you can make a Jedi sword out of your grandmother’s sticks.
  8. +31
    2 December 2013 06: 38
    I haven’t read such nonsense for a long time! he smiled so smiled! Krai sings the praises of Japan, which is so advanced that it can’t do its own plane! and China cherished ... and they went to the moon, they recently sent a lunar rover! and maybe it will work out! smile kraisky! ay! Do you remember in what year Buran flew on the "machine" ??? fool
    1. DimychDV
      +5
      2 December 2013 08: 33
      That's about Buran. And where did the brains of these brilliant developers implement? In 2003, on the Bitsevsky portal of the metro, I got into a conversation with a "grandfather" of about 58-60 years old, he was selling flower seeds. It turned out to be an engineer from the Buran project team. Have you saved any of them? ..
  9. +7
    2 December 2013 06: 39
    Complete nonsense, but the author himself is a technological excellent student, or a fan of American fiction ?????
    1. +8
      2 December 2013 08: 21
      He (the author of the article, or rather the outpouring of garbage from his head) is probably a relative of the "EURO-MAYDOWNS".
      1. Angry reader
        0
        2 December 2013 22: 42
        no, what are you ... he just got another prodigy wafer in his head ... or something else) he is shell-shocked and pours out on paper ..)
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    1. +19
      2 December 2013 06: 46
      proposal to Kraisky: get on the road, in "stealth", and fly to us! we will meet you with "Triumph" !!! then write off from the other world, what and how! laughing
      1. +4
        2 December 2013 08: 35
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        proposal to Kraisky: get on the road, in "stealth", and fly to us! we will meet you with "Triumph" !!! then write off from the other world, what and how! laughing

        I think the S-300VM will be enough with the Tungusok battalion especially for the ejected flyer
  11. +15
    2 December 2013 06: 48
    their campaign about Russia and other countries is such an idea
  12. +8
    2 December 2013 06: 50
    I will not talk about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of our and non-our types of weapons - something else worries - based on and cultivating myths about the presence of "superweapons" from our neighbors, the Americans are supposedly deploying "defensive" systems near our borders
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  14. +9
    2 December 2013 07: 01
    Let them think so, it will be easier for us to surprise them))
    But seriously, in the USSR, civilian electronics was very little developed, but military electronics for years to the front or level goes with bourgeois fillings.
    1. Astral
      +6
      2 December 2013 07: 32
      We percent appeared with hemp performance in the 80s, and amers only in the mid 90s. And only then when our developers left after the collapse of the USSR.
      1. DimychDV
        +2
        2 December 2013 08: 28
        Now, if you still knew for sure that WHERE WE NEED, we are able to implement these processors. And it’s neither patented nor implemented - and so is everywhere in Russia. Well, at least in the defense industry is this an order? ..
      2. stroporez
        +6
        2 December 2013 08: 52
        in in. In the early 2000s, Novosibirsk craftsmen came up with the old (286-386-486) ​​Amer processes in a cluster to collect .... and sho? Americans immediately banned the sale of these chips. I think if we really were such idiots - there wouldn’t be such a ban ......... otherwise it’s forever money, some technologies are not enough, so there’s folk wisdom - - the need for fiction is tricky ... so sho for tricky x .. we’ll forever think it over .. with a maze laughing
    2. +7
      2 December 2013 09: 58
      Quote: MolGro
      Let them think so, it will be easier for us to surprise them))

      Back in the 90s, it was infa that we created an Elbrus-2 chip with a performance 2 times higher than the best US one. Then the Union collapsed and we learned that we had 80 technologies and know-how that no one else in the world had. So, not everything is as bad as the author of the libel would like. And the point is this. the Americans have not done it yet, but are already promoting it as a fait accompli. Ours will do it and are silent, carefully "guarding military secrets." How the striped ones were chatting about the very best fighters. So what? Even the Indians in our SU-30MKI washed them with a devastating score. And about the MiG-29 GDR-ovsky remember? Therefore, to alarmists like Krasivsky I will say: watch the cartoon film "The Bremen Town Musicians" and remember the song, which contains the words "And we keep something in our bosom, do not come up to us, do not come up to us, but THEN WE WILL GET OUT!"
      1. vober
        +2
        2 December 2013 16: 20
        At one time, somewhere in the mid-80s, working in a research institute, I had to write a review about Elbrus, its configuration, command system, etc. He seemed very promising to me, and I unsubscribed. The only drawback of the project was the lack of proven software - there was only a macro assembler for its command system and that was it.
        But Elbrus is not dead - I recently read an article on the creation of military systems based on it.
        1. nikodeus
          0
          3 December 2013 18: 37
          Air defense system S-400. The controls include the Elbrus-90mikro CVC
  15. +21
    2 December 2013 07: 05
    They say they can create "invisibility" and avert their eyes to the side. And we say that we do not see them on our radars, and we also avert our eyes to the side.
    1. DimychDV
      0
      2 December 2013 08: 25
      And besides that, we can avert our eyes to someone else. In vain do we have a drain of psychics? Tomorrow we will throw a cry - "Psychics - in PeReO!" - and on the television cursors of foreign tomahawks in the last minutes, a cartoon bullet will appear, then an eye on * ope, and then - a board of its own carrier ...
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  17. IGS
    +21
    2 December 2013 07: 07
    What kind of nonsense?
    To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

    Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.

    This phrase alone says a lot. The difficulty lies not in detecting an invisible plane, but in defeating it, i.e. in aiming at a target in the final segment of approach with the target. We needed the plane that crashed in Yugoslavia to test its coverage and find out what range of waves it cannot absorb, no coating is capable of absorbing the entire range. And then he became useless. And what about radars is utter nonsense so far we keep at the level. Russia lags behind in the elementary base of computing electronics, but we have good mathematicians and programmers, we cover it. And for some reason the author is silent about our MANPADS in Vietnam. Shy, probably, or the religion "our loot everything" does not allow. MINUS. Morning coffee, B .. SINK IN THE MORNING!
    1. +6
      2 December 2013 18: 30
      Also about Yugoslavia immediately comes to mind ... But how the archaic S-125 was able to bring down the "stealth"? If we "lagged behind" forever, then why even our ancient and archaic weapons successfully click the most "advanced" samples? The same "barbaric" RPG-7 grenade launcher is still loved and in demand by informal armed groups, so to speak ... Let the same Raptor or Lightning version 2 undergo test real battles with planes of probable opponents - Russia, China and India, for example ... With all things dogfighting, early detection and missile combat, aerobatics ... Something the Americans do not strive for real tests, but rush into virtualism, adjusting the initial conditions of the battle to their advantage ... Okay, let's leave the technical side on our conscience the author of the article ... As for Israel, it owes its victories to the greater motivation of the soldiers, their greater professionalism and better organization of hostilities ... As for weapons, the Israeli generals said that they didn’t care what weapon to fight, the main thing is to develop good tactics application, and the T-72 tanks were not at all fiddling, but said that the Arabs stupidly walk head-on without maneuvers, like the Teutons on Lake Peipsi ... The author has a fat minus ... IDF and Heil-Avir plusfor hard work ...
    2. +1
      2 December 2013 22: 56
      Quote: IGS
      Russia lags behind elementary base computing electronics, but we have good mathematicians and programmers, we cover it.

      Igor, you have a mistake: not "elementary", but an element base. But this is by the way. On business.
      About our mathematicians and programmers. Young people win practically all Olympiads and contests, and then they are overbought with offers that their parents "cannot refuse". Therefore, to prevent this from happening, we need to create all conceivable conditions for our national geeks. But the enemy is cunning! So that the Russian land does not give birth to more Platons and "fast minds Newtons", Soros and K * decided to destroy first the education system, and then the Academy of Sciences and the entire academic science of the country. So the war is literally on the desks of our children! It is necessary to create incubators of geniuses, like the Novosibirsk mat. physical school. Then we will again have technologies and inventions that are 10 years ahead of their time. IMHO.
      1. IGS
        0
        4 December 2013 04: 27
        Thanks for the amendment. I said I lost my temper. laughing I disagree about the academy. It has already become a branch of the Soros Foundation. See who owns our scientific journals, and this is the citation index. Young scientists did not get anything from commercial activity at all. Remember what started the whole reform boom? With 5000 apartments for young scientists, for which they allocated money and sawed it off (young scientists received only about 300), including in Novosibirsk, more precisely, it is not at all clear whether they made it there. The young are for reform, but they cannot say anything, they are in the position of slaves. New developments somehow moved if they had a production order and money, and this is far from an academic science. To put it that way, the Academy of Sciences created such conditions that young people were completely dependent on grants from abroad. Whoever I talked to "in the kitchen" all "for", it will not get worse. And all the shouts here are the end of science, etc., have nothing to do with science, this is the dough cut by someone up there. And if after the reform, you do not have to buy at least reagents at your own expense, then the reform was a success. And also the vicious practice of co-authorship, which came from the Brezhnev era, and now just flourished in a stormy color. If you are talented three times now, you will remain on the outskirts, if you do not take a "co-author", and learned people do not like very much when his merits are appropriated, he is ambitious, so they run away. Academics have become "effective managers", having ceased to be interested in science. So we will not blame everything on the worldwide conspiracy, we ourselves will make it worse and faster, the "conspiracy theory" is resting. The country needs a technological breakthrough, the Academy of Sciences, in the form that it is now, cannot provide a base for it. And blame the lack of funding .. money for the mansion, etc. is. So, excuse me, but your mention of young scientists and the reform of the Academy of Sciences in a similar bundle, I consider wrong and harmful. Such statements are beneficial to those who sit at the trough and do not want to give it away, but has an indirect relationship to science, to which, I think, you do not belong. hi
        PS There is a good example, our atomic project, when scientists were engaged in science, and Beria was an effective manager (without quotes).
  18. +5
    2 December 2013 07: 13
    To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

    Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.
    But what about the "chain mail"
    1. IGS
      +14
      2 December 2013 07: 22
      What did you mean? He does not know what it is. This dweller wrote to ruin my morning! It’s like the neighbors hired my rock drill laughing
      1. +4
        2 December 2013 07: 33
        Quote: IGS
        . This dweller wrote to ruin my morning!
        I won’t save enough for all the morning guests))
        Quote: IGS
        It’s like the neighbors hired my rock drill
        laughing
  19. +5
    2 December 2013 07: 21
    Yes, everything is simple, the author fulfills his salary. He will not write something bad from those who transfer money to him. He will not mention that the Americans have problems above the roof and often cover up their shortcomings with carefully verified nonsense and lies, well, also by distributing the capabilities of their potential adversaries.
  20. +6
    2 December 2013 07: 27
    Ode to a Jewish genius.
    To the author: somehow it’s not so frankly necessary, or something ... And then everything in r ... not, Israel alone is in white ...
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  22. +2
    2 December 2013 07: 43
    Authors always have fun when the title of the article contradicts its content ... belittling one, praise the other.
  23. +7
    2 December 2013 07: 46
    much paid paid licked right up to the tailbone feel
    1. +2
      2 December 2013 14: 54
      C'mon, the Poles do it out of fierce love! The only thing is that you won’t destroy the shinkars anymore, the time has changed, you have to write Israel not as an enemy of the human race and Jews are no longer purses for a merry robbery. And so the song is old, completely disinterested, it’s just anger at the Russians strangling, so everyone who is against the Russians - well, demigods ...
      1. 0
        2 December 2013 22: 41
        Yes, he is not a Pole, he is Polish! Yes
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  25. Volodya Sibiryak
    +4
    2 December 2013 07: 49
    I can offer the author of this opus soap and a rope to stop the suffering of his sick mind.
  26. +10
    2 December 2013 07: 50
    "Special radars are needed to shoot down stealth aircraft."
    The author deliberately lies to anger the audience. Well, everyone succumbed. To shoot down invisible planes, you must have several radars (minimum 2). The reflected signal from the 1-th is caught by the 2-th radar. 2 radar induce missile. This was stated by the author of the physical foundations of stealth — the Soviet theoretical physicist Peter Yakovlevich Ufimtsev, who moved to live in the United States, where he developed the theory of diffraction of electromagnetic waves. And the Triumph C-400 and C-300 installations are precisely built on multi-radar warning and target tracking.
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  28. +2
    2 December 2013 08: 05
    Peremptorily and stupid, Schoolboy, did he write something? In the words of O. Bender, Krayevich had not yet reached the physics.
  29. +4
    2 December 2013 08: 05
    In 1941, the Germans also thought so.
  30. +11
    2 December 2013 08: 05
    Who are you, the Japanese are asking. You are technological technicians ...

    The author also hints at Russia. This is a pure provocation to further irritate the public. The author obviously forgot about the recently shot down 2 ballistic missiles launched on Syria at one of which the flight path was changed. Obama, Congress and the Pentagon were shocked by Russia's ability to send American missiles to America and instantly stopped official arms transfers and aggression to Syria. And before this incident, there were test launches of tomahawks towards Syria. These tomahawks shunned (were shot down). The Americans were surprised, but did not believe, and launched these 2 notorious ballistic missiles.
  31. +10
    2 December 2013 08: 12
    The author reminds me of my neighbors - they will come to look at my purchase: "But the Ivanovs are a hundred times cooler!" - Although they did not even dream of such as mine fellow
  32. DimychDV
    +2
    2 December 2013 08: 17
    While the triumphant Iranians carried the corps of the collapsed Sentinel around the cities and villages of the country, periodically stoning him, an intelligent Iranian programmer with a RUDN diploma sat inside him, analyzing, studying, and calling all kinds of schemes.
    And in response to the provocative statements of the Japanese - from the orbit, which had traditionally supposedly been nonexistent from the Soviet era, the old missiles that service their old missiles fell unobtrusively - but each in exactly two cable ships across the bow of all the warships of Japan. And what are we? We are nothing, we just dumped unnecessary trash, in vain with us, perhaps, Progress flew into orbit and in the calculated mode could not dock at all to the station. Somewhere he had been buzzing all this time? ..
    But jokes, jokes, and I want to believe that our space rocket troops do not earn bread alone with launches. That they have an aim from orbit from where and through what ...
  33. +8
    2 December 2013 08: 18
    Who are you, the Japanese are asking. You are technological technicians ...

    From my life experience I’ll say: The Soviet military industry produced flat monitors at the end of the 70's when nobody even stuttered about them. I saw them with my own eyes. In these years, microchips were produced for the army that weren’t in PCs or supercomputers. The USSR went in military production for 50 years ahead of the United States. They still haven’t caught up with us on the issue of a missile defense breakthrough. Apparently, the author dreams that the public will begin to boast of modern secrets - it will not wait!
    1. 0
      2 December 2013 09: 45
      Quote: Алексей_К
      From my life experience I’ll say: The Soviet military industry produced flat monitors at the end of the 70's when nobody even stuttered about them. I saw them with my own eyes. In these years, microchips were produced for the army that weren’t in PCs or supercomputers. The USSR went in military production for 50 years ahead of the United States. They still haven’t caught up with us on the issue of a missile defense breakthrough. Apparently, the author dreams that the public will begin to boast of modern secrets - it will not wait!

      In the videoconferencing, the main computing equipment was NEC (Japan) while the Soviet computers were on punch cards. Therefore, I don’t quite understand your version, if this wasn’t in the military space (the equipment you are talking about), then where was it? What’s ahead of the USA by 50 le and I dare to notice that 50 years have not passed since your service, So (in your opinion) are we still ahead of the States?
      1. +3
        2 December 2013 11: 35
        You are confusing something.
        The end of the 70s was the time of the beginning of the intensive use of computers of the Unified Series (EC computers). Data input from punch cards on them, of course, was, but basically work was carried out on monitors EC-7066, in which the screen looked flat. Only it was a protective glass, behind which stood an ordinary CRT. smile
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  34. +9
    2 December 2013 08: 29
    Yuval Kraisky

    It seems to me that the afftor is not a mysterious Yuval with a rare surname Kraiskiy, but quite a trivial Moysha Zingselshuher ...
    1. +2
      2 December 2013 09: 40
      There was a certain "Friend of Russia" on this site, who also extolled the United States and disappeared somewhere, even his comments podter. So I really think that he may well be the author of this article. He just changes his nicknames.
  35. +16
    2 December 2013 08: 35
    What a wonderful noodle!
    P. Ya. Ufimtsev developed the mathematical toolbox of stealth technology in 1962, being an employee of the Moscow Central Research Institute of Radio Engineering.
    And in 1990, he was invited to lecture at the University of California to help Americans understand their theory. Now he has returned and gives lectures to students of the physics department of Moscow State University (Moscow).
    In the same 90s, specialists in avionics of an easy-going nationality who graduated from Soviet schools and universities reached out to their "historical homeland". It is they who are now there who make the "most-most" UAVs in the world. laughing

    In general, the article looks like a joke. Suddenly some narrow-minded "patriot" will be offended and will start excitedly telling that no, they say, we have anti-stealth, such and such he has performance characteristics and is installed there and there. But, something suggests that you will have to somehow continue to trample without this information.

    About copy. What prevents the Americans from copying the Shkval missile-torpedo, having at their disposal a sample officially purchased almost 10 years ago? Maybe the highest level of technology, incompatible with the "antediluvian" technical solutions used in it?

    But in general it was fun! The level of education thoroughly dipped not only here. wassat
    1. +5
      2 December 2013 12: 18
      What prevents the Americans from copying the Shkval missile-torpedo, having at their disposal a sample officially purchased almost 10 years ago?
      1. rrrd
        +3
        2 December 2013 12: 48
        how many years since 300 they can’t copy, and you offer them a flurry! visible article with a stock! the injection is aimed at Russia, on the topic of monirovka, at first I thought that he was a professor, but no. even he won’t write such a fuck!
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  37. biglow
    +5
    2 December 2013 08: 42
    Soon the professor will come and tell us how technologically backward we are, but one small country on the Mediterranean coast has overtaken everyone ... laughing
  38. +6
    2 December 2013 08: 44
    In each tale, there is a share of the tale (relative to the article). Yes, any country in the world is in some ways a leader, but in some ways lagging. The information war also has a place to be, except how to patch holes in reality.
  39. +5
    2 December 2013 08: 46
    Hitler believed that the USSR was technologically unable to produce modern military equipment, since it had not mastered even basic toothbrushes. Life has shown how wrong he was. Let the modern "technology leaders" be firmly convinced that Russia does not have modern weapons.
  40. Dimkapvo
    +5
    2 December 2013 08: 50
    The usual inexpensive paid article. Rather, even a banal podliz zh.opki for citizenship. By the level of writing and illiteracy, it is simply a masterpiece - the delirium of a fifteen-year-old American schoolboy who has gone crazy on Captain America. Designed for the audience and intelligence of the Papuans. Reading is disgusting and not interesting. It is not even necessary to refute such nonsense, as they say - "Never make excuses - Enemies will still not believe, and friends do not need it."

    Do not underestimate even a weak enemy. Even a weak tribe can set fire to the forest.
  41. +3
    2 December 2013 08: 51
    Bullshit. In my opinion, this opus is not even worthy of discussion.
  42. HAM
    +2
    2 December 2013 08: 52
    With skill and "microwaves" enough to bring down "stealth".
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  45. +4
    2 December 2013 09: 07
    I understand the Information War !!! But this bomb is for whom ?! Ward No. 6 - definitely.
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  47. +4
    2 December 2013 09: 08
    from the Don.
    The hand was combed to give the author a ride! Some letters are Russian, Jewish thought!
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  49. HAM
    +2
    2 December 2013 09: 13
    Of course, I froze (about microwaves), but the author bought it painfully.
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  52. +2
    2 December 2013 09: 24
    Followed the link. Poleno writes to a Jewish website. That is, there cannot be even a hint of the truth.
    By the way, the “leaders of throwing dust in the eyes”, the Iranians, are enriching uranium. And during the HEU-LEU deal, I forgot how. “This is such a sad fact, citizens.” (With)
    It's a pity that the link and author's name are at the end of the article. If it had been at the beginning, I wouldn’t have wasted time.
  53. Alexander I
    +7
    2 December 2013 09: 33
    steals turn out to be very vulnerable in front of bayonet shovels laughing
  54. +3
    2 December 2013 09: 35
    Today the world leader in the vast majority of types of weapons is the United States.
    AND...
    Now, when you hear boastful words that someone’s weapon is "at the level of the best world standards" or even "has no analogues", smile ...
    Laughing laughing
  55. +6
    2 December 2013 09: 38
    What kind of clown bullshit is this on a serious site?
  56. +2
    2 December 2013 09: 40
    The author contradicts himself! It's disgusting to read! A complete amateur and came out with such a big article! "Glory to Israel"!
    1. HAM
      +4
      2 December 2013 11: 43
      Israel is not yet a mayor!!
  57. +2
    2 December 2013 09: 47
    This is the nonsense of a person who picked up information on the Internet, and regarding drones, let’s see how Israel creates a 20-ton tank, this will be the litmus test
    1. +1
      2 December 2013 13: 46
      Quote: Hilt
      This is the nonsense of a person who picked up information on the Internet, and regarding drones, let’s see how Israel creates a 20-ton tank, this will be the litmus test

      It’s not just the weight of the UAV; what Israel is now creating in terms of its performance characteristics is World War II level. A circle of skillful hands.
  58. +4
    2 December 2013 09: 48
    And not only Iran is not capable - no one is capable: a drone is miniature optics, electronic equipment and programs. PRO All this is not copied.

    Author, tell all this again to the Chinese, we’ll have a laugh with them laughing
  59. +3
    2 December 2013 10: 05
    Jewish article, well, let the F-117 or a drone fly into Russian airspace at least once.
  60. sxn278619
    +3
    2 December 2013 10: 35
    Anyone who does not believe that our radars see drones is a provocateur.
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  62. +2
    2 December 2013 10: 37
    hi The author forgot that a Soviet missile developed in the 60s shot down the vaunted “invisible” F-117 in Yugoslavia. The Yugoslavs joked: sorry Americans, we didn’t know that your plane was invisible.
  63. +4
    2 December 2013 10: 42
    Why the hell should we even chase after someone??? The USSR was chasing and chasing and everyone knows where it was catching up. The United States pays for its R&D with green candy wrappers, which they print themselves. Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised if they soon invent a time machine or whatever else is on the list of science fiction writers??? It is enough for us to have nuclear weapons in a tolerable condition and the means of delivering these gifts to any point in the mattress states. AND THAT'S ALL. Why the hell do we need drones?? Who are they going to scare? With Jews it’s clear. They get a kick out of chasing Arabs through the deserts with these miracle birds, but in our country the possible theater of military operations is covered by 80% of such forests that no optics will help. And we, thank our glorious God, are not Arabs. Another thing is that scientific developments should finally work for the benefit of the ordinary person. That's where the trouble is. Skolkovo has successfully spent 2-3% of the annual budget on energy-saving light bulbs alone. Nanochubaisiki are generally a separate topic for comedy clubs and other funny programs. In the field of information technology in deep ass....pe. We are raising money for the fucking AvtoVAZ all over the world so that we don’t end up paying it off. This is where sadness is so sad.
  64. +4
    2 December 2013 10: 49
    When in one of the Russian TV reports, the commander of the newest installation, Triumph C-400, stated that he had shot down all the missiles and even stealth planes, including the pilotless, world gunsmiths at the exercises, smiled.

    To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

    Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.

    I couldn't read this heresy any further. Not an article, but bullshit.
  65. +4
    2 December 2013 10: 49
    The end of the lie about “superweapons” - only Israel has superweapons, and a little bit the USA, funny opinion of the author.
    If we argue by contradiction:
    1. The United States has some kind of metaphorical “superweapon” - what are the chances that they won’t immediately use it to maintain the image of cool Sam? Close to 0 - remember Japan, as soon as the United States had an atomic bomb - they immediately used it.
    2. Israel has such weapons. Iran's chances of surviving another week are close to 0, but somehow it lives.
    3. Japan, hmm, you know that until recently they didn’t have an army at all, they couldn’t. And there is no need to sing songs about the fact that a personal computer or a robot cat can be stuffed into a tank.
    4. Russia. In general, we are a country of theorists: If you can make a superweapon, we can, well, okay, now we’re making frying pans. Although the approach is correct - we will either break it or lose it. Conventional weapons are enough for us - S500, for example;)
    5. China. Why, it’s easier to land a small force, about half a million, or assemble a couple of thousand ICBMs, there are no restrictions.
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  67. Kowalsky
    +3
    2 December 2013 10: 53
    It's been a long time since there was such an outright "order". Yes, the exact definition is heresy.
  68. +2
    2 December 2013 10: 54
    The article made me smile. The author of this opus showed complete ignorance of physics and ballistics.
    PS Regarding missile defense. A familiar Moscow Aerospace Defense Officer explained the situation to me as follows. ICBMs and their warheads fly along a certain ballistic trajectory at very high speed. Knowing the launch location, you can quite accurately calculate the point where the anti-missile should fly. Given the enormous speeds, there will be no time to restart. The surprise is that our BBs are capable of deviating from the calculated trajectory. And now it’s simply unclear at what specific point the anti-missile missiles need to be sent. The only way out is to shoot down at the initial stage of flight
  69. +4
    2 December 2013 11: 11
    The author lit it up. Inflamed, so to speak.
    The passage is about the fact that Israel is a leader in the production of small arms.
    Of course, they are developing it, and it doesn’t look as funny as, for example, Georgia’s attempts to invent something. But if they are such leaders in production... then why is their army running around with American M4/M16? In the photo, Galila and Tara are seen a hundred times less often.

    About China, which is not a leader in weapons... well, this is know-how comments. Even if China does not have super weapons... then given the size and equipment of their army, there will be enough for everyone if anything happens.

    Another question is that we, as a developer and manufacturer of weapons, are rapidly degrading. Both by quantitative and qualitative criteria. But there is a question of money. Those who sell these weapons need profit right now and more. And therefore, selling 100 Kalashnikovs is more profitable than developing a new aircraft and making a profit years later. I’m generally silent about the Armed Forces’ need for new weapons.
  70. +3
    2 December 2013 11: 32
    Modern man, i.e. a person who reads Wikipedia, not textbooks. In order to see stealth, elementary actions are enough, even the S-125 shot down the F117 in Yugoslavia. There are probably people who will ask, where is this?
  71. +10
    2 December 2013 11: 50
    Ah, I liked the article. The author “sees to the root” - we can’t do anything. And we never could. So I’ll go, drink vodka, feed the bear and go earn money for vodka. And in the evening, I’ll come to my shack, drink vodka again, beat my wife, play the balalaika, feed the bear and, wrapped in matting, fall asleep in the hayloft. Until the next morning... that’s how we are Russians.
    1. +10
      2 December 2013 13: 51
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      So I’ll go, drink vodka, feed the bear and go earn money for vodka.

      I won’t forget to melt the nuclear reactor, otherwise the vodka will freeze.
  72. avg
    +6
    2 December 2013 11: 52
    And, besides the ignorance of technology, the opponents of the United States make a grave mistake, believing that all these 40 years the United States will sit with their arms bound.
    Now, when you hear boastful words that someone’s weapon is "at the level of the best world standards" or even "has no analogues", smile ...

    If you want to smile again, then read the interesting statement of one of the American senators.
    -If we do not immediately change our approaches to teaching mathematics, then our universities will soon look like a place where Russian professors teach Indian and Chinese students. laughing
  73. +4
    2 December 2013 12: 05
    Thanks to the author of this opus. Neighing. I don’t even know if it’s worth commenting, because every paragraph is a pound of dust in the eyes. We should probably note only one thing - only Russia creates weapons FOR WAR, while the rest create peacetime services.
    How long will a tank loaded with electronics last on the battlefield? What about an airplane where the main weapon is the same thin and vulnerable radio electronics? What can stealth stealth systems do against dual-frequency radars? And so on...
    In general, don’t make fun of my slippers, otherwise you’ll have to buy new ones.
  74. BAT
    +2
    2 December 2013 12: 08
    I wish there were more articles like this in the Western media. Let them think we are stupid. dense, poorly educated and armed with outdated weapons... the more they present us like this, the better for us. And the more they will be shocked when, at the most inopportune moment, everything turns out not to be as they imagined.
  75. BAT
    +1
    2 December 2013 12: 08
    I wish there were more articles like this in the Western media. Let them think we are stupid. dense, poorly educated and armed with outdated weapons... the more they present us like this, the better for us. And the more they will be shocked when, at the most inopportune moment, everything turns out not to be as they imagined.
  76. ed65b
    +3
    2 December 2013 12: 10
    I read 10 lines, it was enough, as if I had entered a foreign language. Minus.
  77. +4
    2 December 2013 12: 11
    Yes, he’s just a provocateur and a stupid person! All their technologies are not worth a damn if their stealth stealth systems can even be seen by our radars of 50-60, and the statement of the cross-eyed (Japanese) that they are developing “super” weapons is a bluff and empty chatter. What kind of technological breakthrough are we talking about if the Japanese have all the nuclear power plants developed by the USA in the 60s, and what is this, you remember from Fukushima. I had the opportunity to work on the construction of the Bashnuclear Power Plant and we were informed of the opinion of Japanese specialists from METATE about its closure: " ...we are just going to develop a nuclear power plant of this project, and you are destroying the almost finished one! (I meant a station with VVR-type reactors) And all their “developments,” if you remember, were drawn from our magazine “Technology for Youth.” And also I want to add how they piss with boiling water when we begin to introduce the latest developments. A pathetic clown trying to discredit the achievements of our gunsmiths. They call the adoption of new IL aircraft into service a lie to combat their vaunted electronics, well, that’s good, let them think what they want, but they will get it as always to the fullest!
  78. +1
    2 December 2013 12: 11
    Yes, he’s just a provocateur and a stupid person! All their technologies are not worth a damn if their stealth stealth systems can even be seen by our radars of 50-60, and the statement of the cross-eyed (Japanese) that they are developing “super” weapons is a bluff and empty chatter. What kind of technological breakthrough are we talking about if the Japanese have all the nuclear power plants developed by the USA in the 60s, and what is this, you remember from Fukushima. I had the opportunity to work on the construction of the Bashnuclear Power Plant and we were informed of the opinion of Japanese specialists from METATE about its closure: " ...we are just going to develop a nuclear power plant of this project, and you are destroying the almost finished one! (I meant a station with VVR-type reactors) And all their “developments,” if you remember, were drawn from our magazine “Technology for Youth.” And also I want to add how they piss with boiling water when we begin to introduce the latest developments. A pathetic clown trying to discredit the achievements of our gunsmiths. They call the adoption of new IL aircraft into service a lie to combat their vaunted electronics, well, that’s good, let them think what they want, but they will get it as always to the fullest!
  79. +1
    2 December 2013 12: 30
    With all due respect to Russia's gunsmiths — the history of Soviet and Russian weapons, the country's technological level does not allow the creation of Stealth technology opposition systems.


    Eh... apparently the Yugoslav warriors did not know that their level of development did not allow them to shoot down the F-117

    Colonel Zoltan Dani commanded the 3rd Battery of the 250th Air Defense Brigade, which defended Belgrade. On March 27, 1999, thanks to Russian weapons and the valor of his subordinates, he shot down a supposedly invulnerable F-117.
    Read in full: http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_03_23/69380867/

    After 20.00 the NATO air raid began, we turned on the radar and soon noticed an approaching target. Requested permission from the operations center to act against this aircraft. At 20.41 we received permission. At 20.42 the target was shot down - it took us 18 seconds.
    Read in full: http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_03_23/69380867/

    - We used the Russian P18 radar with a meter frequency range.
    Read in full: http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_03_23/69380867/

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  81. +4
    2 December 2013 12: 33
    Chief, everything is gone, everything is missing, chief. Mr. (what's your name) author of the article. In the future, please do not shock the average person with statements of universal stupidity. And don’t write articles without backing them up with at least some technical information (performance characteristics, operating systems, etc.). Why did YOU, “respected” author, modestly remain silent about the problems with the Aegis, about the controllability problems of the F-117 and B-2 (the latter has a turning radius, an entire country in Europe). About problems with STEALTH coating (hard wear) at high speeds. About the fact that in STEALTH mode it is impossible to use weapon compartments, why? Why did they remain silent about what US pilots actually say about attack drones? Why are you silent about the vaunted missile defense system, which essentially does not pose a threat to us militarily? But purely geopolitically. And finally, about the F-35, why didn’t you describe all its “advantages”. Did you also miss the Bonig with the laser bullet on board, which was safely dismantled and standing in the hangar? Why don’t you talk about electronic warfare “Knapsack” - there are no analogues in the world and none are expected? Yes, there are many other reasons why.
    Don’t write, it’s not necessary, it’s not yours. After all, no one belittles American (or anyone else) weapons. Not at all, but there’s no need to tell fairy tales here.
  82. +3
    2 December 2013 12: 33
    To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.


    Tell that to the Serb who shot down the stealth in Yugoslavia.
  83. rrrd
    +1
    2 December 2013 12: 44
    "hmm! as soon as I read who the author was, everything went back to normal! I don’t want to comment on it. I hope there is someone worthy here who will build a battle for him (the answer to his nonsense) and that is nonsense
  84. +2
    2 December 2013 12: 53
    On the topic of whether there was electronics in the USSR, I would like to suggest that the author of the article first read the materials at these links: http://www.forbes.ru/tehnologii/tehnika-i-biznes/239086-pyat-rossiiskih-shpionsk
    ih-tehnologii-kotorye-pokupayut-na-zapade; http://versia.ru/articles/2013/aug/21/startsev_pugali_roboty; http://cccp-revivel.blogspot.ru/2013/07/utinaya-ohota-ili-o-prichastnosti-amerik
    ancev-k-sovetskoj-mikroelektronike.html#more; http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/806/sssr-i-evm, and I think it will be interesting for those who are interested in this topic. And now it doesn’t seem like all polymers have been wasted in this industry, they’re just not particularly advertised. Yes and why irritate “potential partners” “the less you know, the better you sleep” lol
  85. +3
    2 December 2013 12: 59
    Quote: DimychDV
    This is with us - world armourers. And gunsmiths from other countries of the world simply twisted a good face with a bad game. They sell their systems mainly due to PIAR technologies. Well, and not least - thanks to the good R&D costs. World (our) gunsmiths manage to achieve the same results - for those pennies that they have been paid so far. And if the country pays them more? ..


    in the early 2000s he worked in the criminal investigation department. There were no salaries then. and then one day a friend distant from the service said: “but if the operas’ salaries were raised several times, they would probably suppress crime by times! Right?”
    I answered him by saying that not much will change, since those who work conscientiously dedicate all their strength to the service, and those who are now struggling will do the same even with a normal salary.
    I think it’s the same with gunsmiths.
    although, of course, you should pay decently. but money is not everything.
  86. +3
    2 December 2013 13: 20
    Is it that the Russian Federation is unable to create anti-stealth technology? In fact, in some ways, the USSR was ahead of everyone and everything in the air defense system; it was forced to do so due to the lag with aircraft in the 50-60s, which was compensated for by missiles, and this superiority has not yet been covered. At the same time, the technologies here are very different from those needed to create a mobile phone.
    1. +3
      2 December 2013 18: 33
      Once, while communicating with one very knowledgeable person, I heard one interesting thing: supposedly the idea of ​​​​Stealth technologies was specially planted by the CIA, since the Union understood the high cost and unreality of this technology for combat use, i.e. our answer to their misconception with “Star Wars”. So they “planed” irons like B-2 and F-117, it’s expensive for them and it’s easier for us to “wet” them!
  87. +3
    2 December 2013 13: 35
    Quote: avant-garde
    Author Yuval Kraisky- if at the beginning of the article it was written it would not even read Yes

    In general, what kind of clown is this Krai? Does anyone know? Where does he get such speculation? complete nonsense!!!!! The article is a big minus!!!
  88. +1
    2 December 2013 13: 56
    I am an absolute novice in modern weapons, but I think that it’s not worth relaxing and engaging in mischief. As they say, it’s better to be safe than to scratch your head later.
  89. Chervonets
    +3
    2 December 2013 14: 22
    Quote: Kowalsky
    It's been a long time since there was such an outright "order". Yes, the exact definition is heresy.

    This is their auto-training, like: “I am the most charming and attractive”

    Only this is not a cartoon about a superhero, where the number of spells the enemy becomes weaker.
    What is this article for? For your own complacency? But isn't this pointless?

    Farther.
    1.
    There is no such thing as absolute stealth; only the detection distance changes.
    The detection range is proportional to the fourth root of the ESR value

    But. They also play a role and it makes sense to compare the “dueling” capabilities of the Su-35 and F-22A Raptor radar systems. A Russian vehicle equipped with an Irbis can detect a target with an EPR of 0.1-0.5 m2 (i.e., a Raptor) at a distance of 165-240 km. An American fighter “sees” its enemy with a much larger (about 1 m2) ESR, also at a range of about 200 km. Thus, the stealthy "Raptor" with its AFAR in terms of the onboard radar complex has no real superiority over the modernized "Sukhoi" in missile air combat at an "extra-visual" range! And this is precisely one of those most important parameters in which the American military counted on the unconditional advantage of the Raptor over any similar vehicles.
    With the PAK FA the situation will be even more positive.

    PS
    Even if we believe that the Raptor’s EPR is suddenly 100 times lower, then the record can only be in the frontal plane, with a dozen anti-radar layers and only in a certain frequency range, then this will not play a big role.
    100 to the power of 1/4 = 1,78
    The detection range is reduced by this figure

    2.
    Further. Here's a thread from 2007:
    http://guns.allzip.org/topic/71/223881.html
    At the international exhibition MILEX-2007, which took place at the end of May in the capital of Belarus, the Minsk Design Bureau "Radar" for the first time presented a new radar for detecting air targets "Vostok", which is especially effective in detecting stealth aircraft. It is a mobile solid-state digital radar of the meter range with an active seven-phase antenna array, designed to detect air targets within the radar coverage area, measure their range, azimuth and radial speed, as well as transmit radar information to the information network of the air defense system.
    The maximum viewing area of ​​the Vostok radar is 360 km, detection and tracking of targets is carried out automatically, the station's throughput is at least 120 targets, the detection range with a probability of 0.9 at an altitude of 10 thousand m for the B-52 strategic bomber is 255 km, for the F- fighter 16 - 133 km, stealth strike aircraft F-117A - 72 km
    1. Chervonets
      +3
      2 December 2013 14: 23
      3.
      Stealth signals are invisible only in certain frequencies
      The Americans' fascination with stealth technologies also gave impetus to the development of new radar methods. To compensate for the decrease in visibility, it is enough to increase either the transmitter power, or the receiver sensitivity, or both. Of course, everything is not so simple here - it is necessary to take into account interference and electronic warfare. The task is very difficult, but no more difficult than reducing the EPR of an aircraft. Actually, now there is a competition between the sensitivity and power of radars and stealth technologies of aircraft - an analogue of the struggle between armor and projectile in the history of tank building. That is why such importance is attached to new radar schemes, such as AFAR, which not only make it possible to increase the power of the emitter along with the sensitivity of the receiver, but also to track several targets at once, using digital signal processing, filtering out interference. But the most important thing is that AFAR allows you to scan space in different frequency ranges. And here we come to another important discovery. The fact is that the effectiveness of the stealth technologies used by the Americans is very dependent on the radar frequency range. They are mainly designed for the X-band frequencies, in which most modern (NATO only!) radars operate. This is a centimeter wavelength. Older air defense radar systems used the L-band frequencies (decimeter waves) and for them American stealth technologies are almost useless!

      4.
      Well, the above was an opinion on how just a couple of spaced radars solve all the issues
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  91. +4
    2 December 2013 14: 37
    Well, let’s just say there are other technologies for detecting subtle “stealth” devices. As it turned out, any flying object leaves behind a “wake” trail, so to speak, much like in the sea. Moreover, its size depends on the size of the object and its flight speed. Oddly enough, it remains in the sky from 3 minutes to 1 hour, depending on the flight altitude and the state of the atmosphere. They have already learned to detect this wake with special equipment installed on loitering AWACS aircraft and from satellites. No amount of stealth helps - even if the plane is not visible, its trace is recorded at the base of which the plane is located.
  92. +5
    2 December 2013 14: 48
    Well done author! I haven't laughed so much for a long time. There is no need to even comment on pearls about “special radars” and “technological equipment”.
    1. +1
      3 December 2013 12: 24
      I heard about radars, but there are “special radars” in Ward No. 6!
  93. +4
    2 December 2013 14: 49
    Apparently they didn't pay the scribbler enough! :) I threw the gag into the mix with Coca-Cola and hrs! :)

    Sentinel has fallen! :) Isn’t it funny yourself!? If this is the superweapon of his beloved Yankees, how did it fall into the hands of the Iranians!? :) Our specialists also worked here.

    They just create a radar to see planes built using stealth technology! And what!? The author probably doesn’t know that Americans don’t see their invisibles because their radars operate on other frequencies!
    The author probably doesn’t know, but our railway track is different! :)

    And our radars see their planes and drones quite well! In Nizhny, I visited the factory where these radars are made!

    there are no missiles that I can overcome missile defense!?

    Well, the author is just an ass. He does not understand that it is possible to intercept a missile flying along a ballistic trajectory, and when it is known that this is IT!
    And when the warheads are divided into real and decoys, and even maneuver, then there are simply no means of destruction - this is only for such high-speed and maneuverable targets, and there are not enough anti-missiles to hit all the targets!

    The author is an ass who was paid for something he himself does not know!

    And, probably, the author does not know that the Americans use Kevlar body armor. And we are with armored plates! Ours is heavier and more inconvenient! Yes. But why!? Because American body armor can only hold their own ammunition, but our ammunition will cut through them like a hot knife through warm butter.
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  95. Kowalsky
    +3
    2 December 2013 14: 51
    Everything becomes clear if you look for a little information about the author)
  96. +4
    2 December 2013 14: 57
    And here is our author “hero”.

    Information Atelier-Agency Stop-News
    CEO: Boris Gelfenbuym
    Deputy General Director Vlad Khmelnitsky
    Editor-in-chief: Boris Stolyarov
    Editors:
    Alexey Berenius
    Igor Dmitrievsky
    Mikhail Malinsky
    Yuval Kraisky
  97. POMA
    +2
    2 December 2013 15: 52
    He spouted such nonsense. He is a Pole and a Pshek.
    1. +3
      3 December 2013 12: 26
      If only he were a Pole, otherwise it looks like a “Sinai Cossack”!
  98. VADEL
    +5
    2 December 2013 16: 01
    “Puffed”, “stung” - by the pen; “Puffed”, “stung” - by the pen. ROMANCE! Good luck gentleman.
  99. +2
    2 December 2013 16: 36
    Quote from my favorite cartoon: “Glory to the great mathematician, shame on Viktor Perestukin (read Yu. Kraisky)”
    1. -2
      2 December 2013 18: 04
      Aspen trees will not produce oranges, and therefore it is easy to cope with technological lies: if a country does not produce components, computers, does not create new technologies - in communications, aviation, computer science, is not able to apply them for research in medicine, the creation of new types of materials - it is not capable of creating “super weapons”.

      Everything is logical.
      Illiterate media said: all - the end of the Americans came to an end, their apparatus will now copy the Russian and Chinese.

      It's almost 2, and where are the copies?

      good Also rightly noted

      The author somewhat spoiled the impression with phrases about “special radars” (humanities, what to take from him), but otherwise he is absolutely right - in the field of technological progress, the initiative comes from developed countries - the USA, Israel, Japan, Western Europe. Europe.

      All the other technological garbage dumps - Syria, North Korea, Venezuela - have only learned to lie. Russia is a lot of fun, trying to leave at the expense of the “Soviet reserve.” But the Kremlin crooks don’t succeed and instead they produce ineffective and stillborn crafts like the T-50 or the Bulava missile.
      1. +2
        2 December 2013 18: 43
        Have you even seen them from afar? I saw him fly in Moscow, but about the “Bulava”, express yourself more carefully, because despite the opposition of all sorts of “well-wishers” it has already paved the way for itself. So how are you better than this “little dirty trick” whom you even seem to condemn?
      2. Arthur Garipov
        +2
        2 December 2013 22: 19
        And who are you. Probably born illegally in Russia. Yuval will kill his mother for a green piece of paper
        1. +1
          3 December 2013 12: 30
          Who, who, clearly the “Cossack” pepper was sent, or better yet, “asshole!”
  100. +5
    2 December 2013 16: 58
    To shoot down stealth planes, special radars are needed.

    Only the USA, Japan, Israel, Great Britain and France are capable of creating them.

    What nonsense?! Did they put a troll on our site to prevent it from getting boring?
    1. +1
      3 December 2013 12: 32
      I agree with you, this is like a trial balloon, maybe it will fail!

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