Patriot: And what good can it be?
TO: Well, today at least the goal of all liberals in Russia is democracy, the rule of law, economic wealth and transparent rules of the game in business. Is it bad?
P: Let's do everything in order. Today in the world, despite the attempts of China, there is one project. And this is a project of the West. This project proclaims the triumph of liberalism in the humanitarian sphere and a certain variation in the economic. Take for the beginning of the rule of law. Everybody in Russia is fed up with corruption, flashers of officials and in general “Serdyukovschina”. Therefore, for many Russians, the Western model of regulation of relations between society and the state is very attractive. True, there are few states, but more on that later. So, at the heart of Western law, lies both Roman-Germanic law and Anglo-Saxon law. Both are detrimental to the Russian peoples.
TO: On the basis of what you say so? Will, like many traditional patriots, appeal to LGBT horror stories?
P: And you will tell me: look at how such “blue” ones manage to make such cars, autobahns and infrastructure? Let's break everything down.
TO: Okay, I agree with you, waiting for arguments.
P: Since we began to reveal the issue of the attractiveness of Western democracy with such an important element as legal security, rather than economic prosperity, this is very correct to start a discussion. Since today many liberals are offended that they are labeled as “European romantics”, “carriers of rose-colored glasses”, etc. Those. Many of the liberal media complain that they are not fighting for the next 201 variety of sausage, but for the opportunity to influence the official and defend themselves in court. But not all liberals are ready for a serious discussion about the Western legal system and the implementation of even its individual norms in Russian legislation.
TO: What do you mean when you say that you are not ready? In my opinion, they are just waiting for a public debate on this topic on federal channels! And why do you consider Western law and norms that regulate behavior in society harmful to Russia? What can you say to the case in Germany, if I am not mistaken, three years ago, when the German defense minister resigned for plagiarism in his scientific work, which he wrote while still studying? Can you imagine this in Russia against the background of the “Santa Barbara” name of Serdyukov?
P: Moreover, I remember news a plot from the mid-2000s when in the United States one of the daughters of President D. Bush Jr. was fined for speeding.
K: All the more !!!
P: And now that the stagnant liberals dislike so much. Let's talk about the price that Russian peoples must pay for such a “Western” rule of law.
K: And what is the price, interesting?
P: First, this is a total regulation of not only public, but also personal life. In this matter there is never half measures. When you see a fine in the US for the president’s daughter, be prepared not to be surprised at life sentences for a stolen jacket, as it was recently covered in the Military Review.
K: Wait a minute! I disagree! Democracy democracy is different! The fact that America is not only a country of possibilities, but also a state of strict legislation, is known to almost everyone. And it even appeals to some when the principle of the inevitability of punishment of crime and the system of checks and balances triumphs.
P: What is this state - the USA, where each state has its own monastery, indeed, many people know. However, if we delve deeper into the issue of legal values of the West, then you will not notice the difference between the United States, Sweden or Germany. So you say, albeit indirectly, that the rigidity of US criminal law is a kind of charm, a calling card. Of course, if we compare only in the context of punishments for crimes, this may be true, but if we consider it in the plane of meaning, we can see something in common. For example, the classic West proclaims freedom and the protection of human rights, individuality, and elevates it to a cult. In my article “Dictatorship Is It Always Bad?” In the Military Review, I gave examples of the fact that the dictatorship of law in the West is a defense of the constantly changing trend in the sphere of civil law, where new subjects of mutual relations arise. For example, today the trend in the West is protection of same-sex marriages at the expense of the old traditional, and tomorrow there will be protection of human marriages with frogs at the expense of same-sex. Thus, when liberalism triumphs in civil law life, the binding of coordinates to the basic and fundamental values of a person is lost.
K: Are you again showing the red rag as a way of vaccinating people against liberalism - a scary story about LGBT expansion?
P: Not really, now I will explain. Many liberals have a common opinion that once the rights of animals are very strongly protected in the West, as well as the abbreviations LGBT and any evil spirits you mentioned, then, therefore, ordinary people with traditional views have no problems or conflicts. social and public sphere.
K: Isn’t that so? Or will you now begin to tell horror stories about excessive political correctness, which is terrorized by the majority? You know, many are ready and willing to get rid of the culture of rudeness, contempt and the same racism in Russia. Many ask for the elementary - respect for the individual. They are not intimidated by any Starikov with reports of conspiracy! And if such a price as political correctness leads to the fact that one of the members of the cabinet of ministers of the Russian Federation will be fined red fare, then not only me, but many of my editorial colleagues will be very pleased to plunge into the world of political correctness. I dare to suggest that many Russians are ready to “swallow” such a minus.
P: Unfortunately, I will disappoint you, since political correctness is only the tip of the iceberg and only an oral element of the Western legal system and society. Now I want to know with you how ready you are to go further so that one of the members of the KBM RF will be fined? I just want to warn you that I, too, advocate the possibility of such punishment, only from other social models. So, imagine for a moment that Ukraine, where I came from, finally signed an association with the EU, carried out a package of reforms and implemented the norms of Western law in accordance with European standards. And when you see the news story, where the current speaker of parliament is being shown in handcuffs, know that somewhere in this time in Ukraine they are recording in the unified state register of court decisions or, more simply, initiate a criminal case against a resident of Kukuyevka village. Which, for example, buying a fishing rod in a store, refused to finish angler courses, to join the fishermen and hunters society on the recommendation of its member, whose experience was at least 3 years and did not pay an annual symbolic fee. And here's a question for you, dear correspondent: “Are you ready to abandon the principles of free Russian fishing to please the rule of law?”
K: I’ll probably disappoint you, but many will even easily go for it, if only the principle of inevitability of punishment works in the country. Of course, it is a shame that such a simple and ordinary exercise, like fishing, requires permission, fixation and regulation, but to see the latest series of “serdyukovschiny” motivates such a victim. I understand that other social models that stop corruption in the country are totalitarian models?
P: Let's do everything in order, I don't like to run ahead. You easily abandoned the free Russian fishing. But surely even the boys after school were running with a fishing rod for free bets or a river? Are you ready to abandon the May shish kebab in nature?
K: Oh oh oh! I understand what you are driving at. But today, and without the dictatorship of liberalism in Russia, rules of behavior in forest and forest-steppe zones are becoming tougher. I see no reason for drama.
P: Now I will disappoint you. It is not only about forests, park and protected areas. Today, in Germany or in Spain, you cannot come, say, to the village where you grew up, and have a picnic at the end of the street around the bend, where you ran with your children barefoot and built “halabuda”. Everywhere is nature! Even if it is a paddling pool with three reeds. You will have two options where you can make a family barbecue. The first is in its private territory, i.e. in the backyard, after making sure that the smoke from your kebabs or firewood does not interfere with your neighbors and is strictly upward at an angle of 90 degrees. Of course, not everywhere in the West, for example, in the emigrant areas and neighborhoods that are not implanted in the western matrix of life. There is a second option - these are special places for recreation, they can even be free, but only where the local municipality has allowed it.
K: I understand you, you mean the loss of freedom of choice, desires and the form of family leisure. In addition, there is a tendency to unification not only in the rest. For example, you can remember the lawn in 2 centimeters, and the same fence with houses.
K: But again, it seems to me that a significant part of our society, I can not say that the majority are already ready for such sacrifices, and someone will say: to such standards. You must agree, even in 90-s, watching foreign films, we were surprised at such phenomena as marriage contracts, and relied on feelings, and today it is a reality in the expanses of the former USSR! Maybe we just need to accept the fact that we are part of global capitalism? No one can return state-Christian capitalism, models, for example, as in Chile under Pinochet. And the more so the Soviet Union "Ie. if we remember Kurginyan and his statement that modern is dead, then there is a dead end. No one will trade and contact with us, and even boycott (recalling the notorious conservative law banning LGBT propaganda in the Russian Federation. After all, this is the standard throughout the world that is in trend in the neoliberal right). I'm right? What offer?
P: As you rightly noted, shifts in consciousness began. Despite the fact that the “Russian world” has long been positioned as a moderate antagonist to materialism, the virus of super-consumption has penetrated to us. It is the attachment to consumer standards, combined with the dreams of entrepreneurs about the transparent rules of the game, students and intellectuals about the legal order, projects Marshes and Maidans. We all go into the trap of degradation of the mental and spiritual level.
K: Is there a chance that we will come to a halt at a moderate consumption and standards of unification of society?
P: And who will act as a measure? Who will be the benchmark? Holland? Or Catholic Brazil, where women and men combined do not already dominate in carnivals? Today it is possible to throw out textbooks of political science where the concept of democracy is revealed both from the point of view of the ruling majority and the minority. After all, respecting the minority is not what we saw in France in 2013!
K: But be that as it may, the economy is booming there. Today, in a liberal environment, it is no longer fashionable to use the example of the United States. Increasingly, they rely on the Scandinavian countries and their socialism.
P: In the Scandinavian countries, there is a mix of neoliberalism in the humanitarian sphere, multiplied by the cynical and rational symbiosis of capitalism and socialism in the economic sphere. Are even the most liberal Russians ready for total and cynical rationalization? For example, to heat your house with the ashes of dead relatives? True, a step towards such pragmatism should be the preliminary destruction of the institution of the family.
K: Not a bad argument. If we recall the case of an 5-old, when one of the Swedish ministers paid for a diaper with a service card and was forced to resign. I agree, the price is not easy, even for ossified liberals. But what about democracy, taking into account the national specifics and culture of the people? For example, in Poland, a lot of things are not there, the same boy’s disguise as a girl in kindergartens, as in Norway. Can I find the golden middle?
P: We are again stepping on a rake. The liberal trend will not allow the legislation to stand idle for a long time and gather dust. It will defend revolutionary innovations. Today in Poland there is a nationalist upsurge as a protest against the introduction of new and new European values.
K: Still, what is the connection between the inevitability of punishment in a liberal society and the deprivation of the right to free fishing?
P: Do you want to ride, and how to sleigh to carry. Where "A" is, there is "B", and even "I". Here we touch upon the fundamental principles of civil society, but with a liberal undertone. I foresee your question of the type: "Is civil society outside the liberal environment as well?" Therefore, I answer in the affirmative: it happens. At certain stages and stages in the USSR there was a civil society. In addition, as far as I know, in Russia, the essence of the time deals with the development of left-leaning civil society. But the quality and pace of their work depressing, later, if you want, I will explain. As for the connection directly, the neoliberal society, which is now the West, has one such important element as “squealing”.
K: Is there a mess with the Soviet system?
P: Partially. Since Soviet citizens stood guard over the state system, and representatives of the liberal system stood guard over new cultivated values. And here is not necessarily LGBT. This may be the same political correctness, and the new political McCarthyism and juvenalk. Well, so that it is clear, this is when the "law-abiding" people are ready to protect the child’s freedom from his parents by calling the necessary authorities, where they will express their evaluative opinion, supposition. As a result, a court case appears. And when we are shown on TV, as one eccentric, an indigenous Frenchman, climbed the Eiffel Tower and demands a date with his son, then we, ordinary Russians, probably think like this: “We didn’t share the child properly during the divorce in the court debate.” And by the way, we see the tip of the iceberg. No one in the TV program will say that it all started because of a call from a neighbor or a friend.
K: You are from Ukraine, how are things with liberal ideas?
P: In Ukraine, as in the Russian Federation, the overconsumption virus is also rampant, but, in addition, there is a blurring of the Russian ethnic group in the east of the country. The whole Russian-speaking generation has grown up on Russophobic textbooks stories.
K: Your note about the absence of Russian people younger than 30 in Ukraine did not cause a furore on the Military Review, a total of 91 comments, where two dozen are your additions and explanations. Russian people in Russia do not care that in Ukraine 7 million ethnic Russians melt in the boiler? Why, despite the loud name, there was no hype?
P: Russia is missing its own problems now. Many have thought for years that the east of Ukraine is the stronghold of Russia and the natural barrier of Russophobia. But this is no longer the case. In that publication, I cited four screaming facts, namely, the erosion of the Russian ethnos in the country, not even among Russian-speaking Ukrainians. Therefore, I am not surprised when Kharkiv patriotic publications themselves are surprised by Russian-speaking resistance to rallies in support of the CU. This can be seen by visiting the resource "Union of Citizens of Ukraine". Here is the title: "Kharkiv is against Ukraine becoming a colony of the EU!"
K: And what do you think will save the great Russian civilization?
P: This is, first of all, a project that Russia should offer the world as an alternative to Western civilization. What kind of project is this and what it is eaten with, we should be told by our Russian patriotic philosophers, theorists and political scientists. Alas, today I am a hostage of a dynamic life: there is always a chance not to fit into the market, then they will crush, so there is no time to read books.
K: This can make "Izborsk club", the movement "The Essence of Time?"
P: I will express only my own, perhaps, subjective point of view. Izbor club for me personally - the tea club. And the movement “The Essence of Time”, although it realized the problem, perverted it on the philosophical schools of Kurginyan, but did not synthesize a solution that mobilizes the masses. How much do they already exist? Two, three years? There is little time left. How do I see the Russian project? I can only outline its contours, like many patriots. This is primarily a rejection of total materialism. The leadership of the Russian Federation should proclaim a policy of producing high-quality goods and long-term use, with the rejection of super-profits during state planning. Call it communism again? And you can recall the practical advice of readers of "Military Review". For example, such a driving idea: “The union of spirit and mind on the path foreseen by God!” (Nickname: Just Vasilich). Can and slogans to remember. But I have no recipe yet, unfortunately.
K: So, the 400-year-old struggle of Westerners and Russophiles for the minds continues, if you start from the 1612 year?
P. It turns out, yes. Here the territories would not want to lose more. After all, I am already a foreigner for the readers of “VO” from the Russian Federation, albeit a Russian one.