Proposal for the modernization of heavy flamethrower systems TOC-1 from NPO Progress

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In the late eighties, the heavy flamethrower system TOC-1 was adopted, later called Buratino. The new combat vehicle was a volley fire system on a tank chassis, armed with special missiles with a detonating warhead. The unguided rockets of the first model allowed destroying targets at a distance of no more than 3600 meters, which significantly reduced the combat potential of the system. In 2001, the renewed TOS-1A “Solntsek” complex entered service with the Russian army. The upgraded flamethrower system received new missiles with a range of up to 6 kilometers. The architecture of the heavy flamethrower systems TOC-1 and TOC-1А makes it possible to upgrade them again, enhancing the combat characteristics.



A few days ago, the Moscow NGO Progress published information about its technical proposal regarding the modernization of existing TOC-1 combat vehicles. During the modernization, it is proposed to equip flamethrowing systems with a number of new equipment designed to facilitate the work of the crew and improve the accuracy of shooting. It is supposed to increase the effectiveness of combat work with the help of new navigation equipment and topographic-geodetic binding of the launcher.

NPO Progress proposes to equip combat vehicles TOC-1 and TOC-1А with the ABAK-KTNTS system (the exact interpretation of this designation is unknown), which includes several sensors and data processing equipment. It is claimed that the use of this complex will make it possible to make a reconnaissance-strike complex out of a heavy flame-thrower system capable of independently carrying out combat missions without using outside help.

The basic element of the ABAK-KTNC system, ensuring its operability, is the inertial measuring unit. It should be installed on the launcher of the combat vehicle and track its position. Inside the armored casing is placed several accelerometers designed to determine the position of the launcher. It is argued that the inertial measuring unit provides topoprivity with an accuracy of up to 0,7 graduations of the protractor.

Data from the inertial measuring unit is transmitted to the central control and navigation unit, which processes it and determines the position of the combat vehicle. In addition, data comes from Doppler velocity meters, satellite navigation aerials, etc. The use of several methods of obtaining information about the location of the combat vehicle can significantly improve the accuracy of navigation.


Option placement product ABAK-KTNC on BM TOC-1A (object 634B)


To improve the accuracy of firing, a laser rangefinder with a measurement accuracy of up to 10 meters is included in the ABAK-KTNTS system. Another way to ensure accurate and heap shooting is to use a set of sensors and actuators associated with the launcher. During a volley, the ABAK-KTNTS system automatics is able to monitor the frequency and amplitude of oscillations of the guide pack. Depending on the value of these parameters, the central control unit sends the appropriate commands. The ABAK-KTNC system can change the interval between rocket launches or control the shock absorbers, while maintaining the desired position of the launcher.

An important feature of the new development of NPO Progress, which enhances the fighting qualities of flame-throwing systems, is the possibility of autonomous orientation of the terrain with great accuracy and topo-binding. It is alleged that this will allow the combat vehicle to continuously monitor its location and display information on the color screen at the commander’s workplace. After receiving data on the location of the target, the commander can calculate the optimal firing position, the direction of approach to it, as well as the guidance angles. Thus, the constant operation of navigation systems can significantly reduce the time to prepare for shooting due to the lack of need for complex and lengthy procedures for determining the coordinates and topographic location.

The ABAK-KTNC system also allows you to leave the position as quickly as possible and not to fall back on enemy fire. After leaving the position, a combat vehicle equipped with a new complex of radio-electronic equipment can quickly prepare for a new shooting.


Option of placement of the IIB product ABAK-KTNTS on BM TOC-1A


The new project NPO Progress provides a significant acceleration of the combat work of the modernized TOC-1 vehicle, which positively affects its survivability. In the light of a relatively short firing range, the ability to quickly leave the firing position is an important and necessary feature of the project. Another interesting feature of the proposed modernization of combat vehicles is updating only the composition of electronic equipment without any major design changes. Thus, the installation of the ABAK-KTNTS system makes it possible to relatively quickly and simply improve the combat capabilities of the TOC-1 family of vehicles.

The project of modernization of heavy flame-throwing systems, created by NPO Progress, so far exists only on paper. When the proposed system will be installed on combat vehicles is unknown. In this regard, the prospects for a new radio-electronic system remain hazy. However, the stated capabilities of the modernized TOC-1 machines look interesting and promising, which may contribute to the continuation of work with the subsequent construction of new combat vehicles or the modernization of existing ones.


The composition of the product ABAK-KTNTS


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  1. The comment was deleted.
  2. 0
    2 December 2013 08: 09
    Why such a small firing range? Other MLRS shoot much further.
    1. Volodya Sibiryak
      +9
      2 December 2013 08: 43
      This is not a rzzo in the usual sense, it is a toss. She is armed with a chem. troops and not artillery.
      1. 0
        2 December 2013 09: 20
        But still? The short range greatly limits the capabilities of TOC.
        1. AVV
          +1
          2 December 2013 11: 40
          To carry out combat missions, these systems are usually accompanied by tanks and infantry, having completed the tasks, they quickly leave their position so as not to fall under return fire !!! And it’s a very powerful complex for smoking settled infantry groups in pillboxes, shelters, fortified positions !!!
    2. +2
      2 December 2013 10: 17
      Because most of the internal volume of the rocket is occupied by the warhead, and not by the fuel tank, as in other missiles
    3. largus886
      0
      2 December 2013 16: 26
      MLRS warhead makes up 30% of the rest of the fuel, and Pinocchio vice versa
    4. 0
      3 December 2013 06: 31
      Very popular Buratin, designer and author of the idea, well done!
  3. 0
    2 December 2013 09: 14
    "The ABAK-KTNTS system also allows you to leave the position as quickly as possible and not fall under the enemy's return fire. Having left the position, a combat vehicle equipped with a new complex of electronic equipment can quickly prepare for a new fire."
    how can this be belay
    "Another interesting feature of the proposed modernization of combat vehicles is that only the electronic equipment is updated without any major design changes."
    1. 0
      2 December 2013 10: 50
      Quote: kafa
      how can this be
      And what is the difference between the T90С and the T90 MS? The same just stuffing, without major design changes.
      1. +3
        2 December 2013 10: 55
        Quote: Mechanic

        Quote: kafa
        how can this be
        And what is the difference between the T90С and the T90 MS? The same just stuffing, without major design changes.



        Question on the spot. wassat
      2. +1
        2 December 2013 11: 09
        how, without changing anything except navigation, to achieve a decrease in the time of deployment and folding and recharging ?? !! AS?
        1. 0
          2 December 2013 16: 26
          Quote: kafa
          how, without changing anything except navigation, to achieve a decrease in the time of deployment and folding and recharging ?? !! AS?
          He fired a volley, curled up and dumped to reload in a safe place. Electronics for guidance and finding a safe place really helps. Even just for the sake of winning an extra minute.
          1. Engineer
            0
            9 December 2013 23: 00
            Winning time is up to 10 minutes .... so .. for information.
        2. Engineer
          0
          9 December 2013 23: 00
          It's not about navigation ... it's about SLAs ... improving accuracy and decreasing topographic location time .... thereby increasing the survivability of weapons and military equipment ...
    2. Engineer
      0
      9 December 2013 22: 58
      This is the source of the modernization of the SLA .... http: //www.mriprogress.ru/_files/AN_28112013.pdf
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  5. 0
    2 December 2013 09: 24
    Weapon Super Interesting is there infa about combat use?
    1. 0
      2 December 2013 10: 33
      It was widely used in Afghanistan and in Chechnya. A lot has been written about him on the Internet. This site has also been discussed more than once.
  6. 2c5
    2c5
    0
    2 December 2013 10: 28
    like a brother told me, during the storming of the formidable, the Pinocchio stadium was burned out
  7. 0
    2 December 2013 11: 23
    Pinocchio was used during the assault on Komsomolsky and not far from the Staropromyslovsky district of Grozny. Moreover, in the latter case, it was still necessary to send soldiers to storm the heights. I have not heard of other cases of TOS in Chechnya
  8. neon2003
    0
    2 December 2013 11: 54
    I read somewhere that there is a tos-2 "karabas" and a tos-3 "kirovgrad", and about 4 years ago. do they exist? or is it a joke?
    1. +1
      3 December 2013 23: 30
      Quote: neon2003
      I read somewhere that there is a tos-2 "karabas" and a tos-3 "kirovgrad", and about 4 years ago. do they exist? or is it a joke?


      I won’t be surprised if they say about TOS-4 Artimon or TOS-5 Malvina laughing
    2. Engineer
      0
      9 December 2013 23: 02
      It’s just a joke .... There is an OKR on the modernization of TOS-1A .... the goal is to increase the salvo range and increase accuracy ... increase BM survivability.
  9. afg444
    0
    2 December 2013 11: 54
    In the late eighties, the TOS-1 heavy flamethrower system was adopted, later called the “Pinocchio” ...
    =============================================
    Since the mid-70s, the development of the system went under the name "Buratino", its first name for adoption by the SA (1980) - ORSO "Buratino" .....
  10. afg444
    0
    2 December 2013 11: 54
    In the late eighties, the TOS-1 heavy flamethrower system was adopted, later called the “Pinocchio” ...
    =============================================
    Since the mid-70s, the development of the system went under the name "Buratino", its first name for adoption by the SA (1980) - ORSO "Buratino" .....
  11. 0
    2 December 2013 13: 11
    The purpose of the flamethrower is the burning of equipped defense units. The second possible destination is the burning of clouds of toxic gases.
    Is shooting in line of sight necessary here or is shooting possible from closed positions at long ranges?
    1. Engineer
      +1
      9 December 2013 23: 05
      It is simply necessary ... that's why OCD is coming to an end in 2014. The thing is that the article cited is from the original source .....
  12. a boat
    +5
    2 December 2013 16: 04
    we would drive such fascists
  13. +2
    2 December 2013 16: 11
    Good weapons, it’s not in vain that our army bought them bully
    1. Engineer
      0
      9 December 2013 22: 56
      I also bought Kazakhstan ....
  14. +3
    2 December 2013 19: 26
    may not be in the subject, but always touched by our sense of humor: Pinocchio, Chrysanthemum, Acacia, Tulip, Carnation ... some kind of soul celebration. and all sorts of Dragons in NATO ...
    1. 0
      2 December 2013 22: 17
      Have you overheard Zadornov? laughing
      Well, it's like the "Y" operation, so no one would guess laughing
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  16. bubble82009
    0
    2 December 2013 22: 53
    very specific tasks are performed by such machines. they need to be made more universal. not only throw flamethrower ammunition, but also use it as an RZSO
    1. Engineer
      +1
      9 December 2013 23: 07
      It is necessary to clearly understand the military purpose of TOS-1A .... for highlands - this is an indispensable weapon ...
  17. Prohor
    0
    3 December 2013 13: 49
    Is there a need for navigation with such precision? It seems to me that "Buratino" is a sawn-off shotgun for close combat, which doesn't even need a front sight, brass knuckles to give ka-a-ak!
    And here - Doppler speed meters, satellite navigation; from the evil one all this.
    1. Engineer
      0
      9 December 2013 22: 55
      Hmm ... and where does the navigation ... These are some of the features. Carefully read the source - http://www.mriprogress.ru/_files/AN_28112013.pdf
      We are talking about a fire control system (LMS) ..... To increase accuracy and launch the NURS on the TPU BM, an inertial navigation unit is placed, which simultaneously serves both for precision measurements of the BM directional angle and for performing the functions of a gyrocompass, gyro pointer and navigator when moving BM to the starting position of the joint venture). Place and role art. gyrocompass for RViA see the network .....
  18. 0
    3 December 2013 14: 29
    or in ammunition of the SAUshek ammunition of a volumetric explosion (although, I may have bent it.
  19. Ustas77
    0
    4 December 2013 21: 24
    I wonder if these systems will be able to function normally with their satellite guidance antennas and so on. in conditions of tough electronic warfare on the part of an adequate enemy, and not partisans? Pounding in the white light? So your very close ...
    1. Engineer
      0
      9 December 2013 22: 51
      You need to understand the difference between a satellite navigation system and an inertial navigation system (INS) ... which EWs are not a hindrance ... these are autonomous systems .... I recommend that you look at information on ANNs in the vastness of the network ....
  20. Engineer
    0
    9 December 2013 22: 33
    Ustas77/ Hmm ... the thing is, on TOS-1A an autonomous inertial navigation system will be used (the counterparts are on the Kyrgyz Republic and ICBMs), which are not afraid of enemy electronic warfare .... For the principle of ANN, see the Internet .... .
    Prohor/ Any military man familiar with the M&A can talk about the principles of ignorance of guns (including MLRS). Artillery equipment (and MLRS) requires art. gyrocompass .... type 1G47 (marginal error in determining azimuth 2.2. Appointment art. the gyrocompass can be read on the net ... but any first-year cadet of the military school knows about this ..... The article is about the accuracy of 1 d.u.
  21. Engineer
    0
    9 December 2013 22: 48
    chunga-changa
    At present JSC "Design Bureau of Transport Engineering"
    (Omsk) conducts OCD to increase the range of TOS-1A .... therefore, accuracy is also required ....
    Actually, the original material can be read here - http://www.mriprogress.ru/_files/AN_28112013.pdf
    In the above material The essence of the technical proposal is not shown. The technical proposal relates to fire control systems (LMS), including gyrocompasses, GKU, orientation systems and stabilization of launchers (launchers).
    While readers are talking about navigation and other garbage .... no one noticed that the product was offered for the first time in Russia .... To increase the accuracy and launch the NURS, an inertial measuring unit is placed at TPU BM, which simultaneously serves as a precision measuring the directional angle of the fighting vehicle (BM) TOS-1A and performing the functions of a gyrocompass, gyro guide and navigator when extending the BM to the starting position of the joint venture) .....
    Evaluate this technical proposal can only officers of the RViA, who actually served in the Armed Forces .... and engineers-developers TOS-1A.
  22. Engineer
    +1
    9 December 2013 23: 29
    TOS-1A is an excellent product with great export potential. With the modernization of TOS-1A, essentially a new SLA is obtained which will significantly increase not only the accuracy of firing (which is important in mountainous areas), but also increase survivability. Firstly, the whole point is that the survivability of TOS-1A is determined by the time spent by the BM at the starting position (SA). Secondly. The accuracy of the M&A systems (including MLRS) is determined by the exact topographic location (1 course of military topography of a military school) .... because it is necessary to determine the exact coordinates of the location of the gun for input into the ballistic calculator ..... for this very reason in artillery units it has art. gyrocompasses of the type 1G40..1G47 with a marginal error of 2.2 d.u. It is proposed 1.2 do .... as if there is a difference .... well, and that's not all. When starting the RS PU BM, a rotational movement takes place (set to eight) ... which must be compensated for by something .... i.e. The MSA should quickly work out the HV and GN .... that's just how it is possible in NV .... NO .... Because. on the control panel must be installed CRS ... which is NOT. The essence of the proposal .. place the IIB on the control panel ... For information ... the IIB has three fiber-optic gyroscopes and three accelerometers .... which allow you to transfer data from the control panel to the control system ... which makes corrections for VL and GN at starting up the PC ..... Well, somehow briefly so .... the so-called course of a young fighter units.
  23. Engineer
    0
    10 December 2013 13: 46
    I would like to clarify .... the proposed laser rangefinder (LD) has a measurement accuracy of not 10 meters, but 1.5 meters at a range of 12 meters .... Which exceeds all the accuracy of the used LD in the present in military reconnaissance vehicles of the Russian Federation ..... That's something like that ....
  24. 0
    27 September 2014 21: 35
    It’s a good powerful technique, but in my military application there will be problems, since they can be destroyed by regimental artillery fire, and in some cases even by battalion mortars ... Especially in the mountains, their use is possible if they are covered not only by ground forces, as well as helicopters. In general, in my opinion they can be applied only if the enemy is reliably suppressed ...
  25. 0
    20 January 2023 22: 37
    Of course, it is necessary to modernize heavy flamethrower systems to increase their combat qualities.
    Increasing accuracy and accuracy is good, but it would not hurt to increase the range.

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