Military Review

The Broken World of America

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In October of this year, the world witnessed how the world financial system again became hostage to the domestic political struggle in the United States between the democratic administration of President B. Obama and the republican majority in the lower house of congress. The financial and economic system of the United States faced a serious threat of default.


The US fiscal year begins on October 1, but due to the hard confrontation between Republicans and Democrats, which has been going on for years, the Congress has not passed any of the appropriation laws 12, which constitute the US federal budget. Note that over the past 30 years, the US Congress has taken the budget on time only four times: in 1977, 1989, 1995 and 1997. Usually, at the end of September, a temporary resolution is adopted, which extends the financing of federal departments for several weeks, until the budget is adopted. But this time it did not happen.

At the edge of the abyss

Characteristically, this is not the first political clinch in Washington. Similarly, events developed during the second presidential term of Clinton in 1996. At that time, as in our days, it was about the failure of the Republicans of medical reform (the education reform, started by Hillary Clinton, the Republicans managed to slow down a little earlier). Then the situation was repeated two years in a row, in 2011 and 2012. Thus, the main target of the Republicans is a full-scale health care reform, which became a stumbling block during B. Obama's first term.

As you know, the cause of the crisis was an ultimatum to the congress, which expressed its readiness to raise the limit of US public debt only in exchange for postponing the implementation of health care reform and reducing social spending. Subsequent events resembled the development of paralysis of American state institutions.

The tax authorities have suspended the execution of financial documents, and the US Treasury has sent on leave all employees directly involved in issuing new banknotes. It was announced the cessation of funding for state projects in the field of science and education, reduced units involved in the registration and inspection of vehicles.

But at the same time, the government managed to achieve the continuation of the work of the service, on which the security of the country depends, as well as air traffic controllers, prison staff, border guards and customs services. The State Department remained the only US government agency whose employees continued to work, despite budgetary confrontation. This is due to the fact that some of the budget allocations of the State Department are not designed for a year, like in other departments, but for two, some funds are not limited to terms at all.

By mid-October, the parties managed to achieve a temporary compromise: Obama managed to sign a bill on the resumption of the government’s work and raising the national debt ceiling. This allowed 800 thousand civil servants to return to work from forced unpaid leave, in which they were from October 1. The budgetary confrontation between the government and the Republicans ended after the evening of 16 in October, both houses of Congress - the Senate, and then the Republicans-controlled House of Representatives - approved a bill providing for the resumption of government funding until 15 in January of the next year and allowing borrowing to continue until February 7 in 2014. But the country continues to live without a budget for the 2014 fiscal year, which began on October 1. Budget parameters will be the subject of separate difficult negotiations that the Obama administration will have to conduct with the Republicans in Congress. At the same time, the Republicans did not manage to force Barack Obama to renounce the main element of his program - health care reform.

Republicans in Congress, as it were, recognized their defeat in a positional war with the White House that lasted for more than two weeks. But what happened cannot be viewed as a victory for the Democrats. On the contrary, the Republicans clearly demonstrated that they are capable of making the budget crisis almost permanent, and Barack Obama received only a temporary respite.

In this regard, the question arises: how could this happen in the most developed economy of the world, on whose currency the stable functioning of world finances depends? The global economy, as noted by the Bloomberg agency, faced a real threat of a collapse due to the problem of American public debt. A default in the USA would be a world catastrophe. The refusal of the United States to fulfill its financial obligations, according to analysts of the agency, would have stopped payments in the amount of 5 trillion. dollars, would collapse the US currency and plunge the global economy into depression. In the event of a default on US debt, China and Japan would have suffered the most. These countries hold on their balance sheets US government bonds for 1 trillion. 300 billion and 1 trillion 100 billion dollars respectively. It is curious that the last time the States defaulted in 1790, when debt payments were delayed by 11 years.

The causes of the recent crisis, as well as the previous one, should be sought in the peculiarities of the political system and the internal political evolution of American society in recent decades.

What could happen and what will happen in the future

Photo source: dw.deAs noted above, the October compromise was of a short-term nature, and the threat of default and the problems arising from this fact are not completely eliminated, but only postponed. We can assume with greater or lesser probability what will happen to the United States in the context of all the difficulties and contradictions that have accumulated over many years and even decades, and the problem of budgetary crisis is sometimes not directly related.

Thus, the Pentagon’s budget will continue (in the planned and reduced form), and the military programs as a whole will certainly continue. At the same time, military contingents of the army deployed in Afghanistan, Kosovo, the Horn of Africa and South Korea will be properly equipped and will receive the necessary combat training. But in the coming years, the rest of the armed forces will experience significant difficulties in training and equipping personnel with modern weapons. In this regard, the ability of the troops to provide solutions to their tasks will be increasingly reduced, and they will increasingly deteriorate.

International programs, which are a powerful foreign policy tool of the United States, which were planned earlier and the funds for which have already been allocated, will continue to work (for example, the Fulbright Program, USAID, etc.).

In the international arena, the State Department will find it harder to uphold US interests abroad, “promote democracy” and open up new markets for the American economy. For example, USAID spending on assistance to Nigeria in the fight against corruption, solving the situation in the field of human rights in Myanmar, to support the construction of state institutions in Kyrgyzstan and Georgia will be reduced. The budget for conflict stabilization will be frozen ($ 60 million per year). In the case of a sequester, the State Department is threatened with losses in 2,6 billion dollars. Other consequences of the crisis include the fact that the planned large-scale reform of the intelligence services, especially the CIA, should stall.

Sure enough, we should expect a reduction in military-technical assistance from the United States to a number of states that are not critical to US security (including some CIS and Central Asian republics). The withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan and other hot spots will accelerate. And, as they say, every cloud has a silver lining - the probability of an attack on Syria (and, possibly, Iran) is sharply reduced. And most likely, it was these circumstances that pushed Obama to accept Putin’s proposal to break the deadlock in Syria. It is possible that a compromise with the Republicans would be a way out for B. Obama in September: agreeing with the hawks on the attacks on Syria (and Iran) in exchange for their support for congressional voting. But this, thank God, did not happen.

In the medium term, the Pentagon will have to reduce the army by more than 100 thousand people. Such losses in personnel will lead to the fact that the troops will be unable to solve the tasks facing them in wartime. As you know, plans to reduce the number of troops from 570 thousand people already needed for operations in wartime to 490 thousand have already been developed in the next few years. The National Guard will be reduced from 358,2 thousand to 350 thousand. Reserve troops will be reduced on 1 thousand people. And the number of civilian army employees will be reduced by 23 thousand people.

But at the same time, most likely, a large-scale migration reform will be buried, which President Barack Obama is seeking, but which the Republicans have invariably blocked until now. For Republicans, the proposed amnesty for illegal immigrants by Obama is tantamount to a death sentence in a political sense. First of all, because the legalization of a huge number of migrants in Arizona and Texas can lead to their transformation from “red” (traditionally voting for republicans) states into “blue” (democratic) states. More than 11 million migrants illegally residing in the United States would be able to obtain US citizenship. The struggle for Latin American sympathy will once again escalate to 2014, when mid-term congressional elections will be held in the United States.

Obama, who received minority support in the elections, including, offers a radical solution to the issue. In particular, the president insists on the right to obtain US citizenship by illegal immigrants who are already in the country without prior conditions. He also promises to take measures to conserve labor, useful for the American economy, and to prevent the separation of families. The bill received at the beginning of the year strong support in the Senate, which would have forced the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to compromise.

It is safe to assume that the B. Obama administration will be forced to abandon the implementation of strict tax reforms and restrictions on the circulation of arms. Here we turn to the domestic political and domestic economic consequences of the crisis. In the foreseeable future, the United States is planning only an increase in the government debt burden, since, in addition to the recorded calculated debt, there are, and this is not advertised by politicians, there are still hidden obligations under social programs.

We can witness the complete collapse of B. Obama’s 2008 and 2012 election programs. It seems that investment in education, development of transport infrastructure, clean energy and expansion of production will sharply decline. Small, narrowly specialized educational programs will be closed, which did not bring the expected results and should not receive government funding. Measures against climate change will slow down: the creation of new government agencies involved in the fight against pollution, the tightening of environmental standards, the formulation of new international initiatives and the prohibition of new projects for the extraction and transportation of oil and gas.

And finally, President Obama’s real estate market program, aimed at helping ordinary Americans, through which, in fact, won the election, can be curtailed. And the final touch: the mass degradation of American cities will continue. Today, 12 American cities have declared themselves bankrupt and have ceased to serve their social obligations; 346 cities and 113 municipal districts of the country are in a pre-default state. According to (softened) forecasts, the level of poverty in problem cities will increase from 15 to 40 percent. It is easy to predict that, despite the government’s efforts to return industrial enterprises to the United States, the migration of industrial enterprises to Asia will continue and intensify, with all the ensuing consequences for the socio-economic situation in the States themselves.

Who is guilty...

The Gospel says: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." This revelation can rightly be attributed both to the Republican Party itself, and in general to the opposition of Republicans and Democrats in the national political arena. Investigating the reasons for the permanent crisis on the Capitol, it is striking that in the Republican Party in recent years, moderate, centrist forces have lost control of the situation: the initiative in the elephant party now belongs to extremists from the so-called Tea Party Movement (previously also called neoconservative). For these people, even the moderate centrist Obama is a “communist”.

It was under pressure from the activists of this radical movement that the congressmen included in the bill on urgent budget measures on October 1 - December 15 a paragraph about the postponement of the implementation of the main conquest of Barack Obama - the health program.

In this form, the document becomes unacceptable for the democratic senate, and in any case is voted by the president.

Photo source: gawker.com Where did the notorious “tea-pots” come from, which everyone started talking about during the last crisis? The origins of the movement must be sought in the last decades of the American storiesin the socio-economic changes that transformed American society.

Since the time of Ronald Reagan and his "Reaganomics" (reduction of state intervention in the economy, tax cuts), the radical wing gradually began to strengthen within the party. For a long time, it was an unorganized minority, but after the onset of the global financial crisis, this minority self-organized into the Movement, or the Tea Party: in fact, into a faction within the Republican Party in the form of an extreme right wing. It arose as a protest against the authorities' reaction to the 2008 crisis of the year and the natural counterbalance to those electorate groups that unexpectedly rallied around B. Obama and his programs in 2008 and led him to victory.

The tea party movement in a populist manner opposed subsidies to large corporations, allowing the latter to emerge from the crisis. With the advent of the Obama administration, "tea" sentiment among Republicans only intensified, since the new president began to pursue, in their opinion, a socialist policy. The climax of discontent (on the verge of hatred) was pushing Obama by hook or by crook through the congress of his reform of the health insurance system. As a result, the most active part of the republican voters was sharply radicalized, which led to the election of "tea-drinkers" to the congress.

The current chamber of tea-drinkers has a maximum of 30 – 40 people from 234 Republican congressmen, but their ideology has become the leitmotif of the Republican Party, which declared a crusade against the socialist Obama and his bills. The climax of this crusade was the current budget crisis. His "tea drinkers" planned throughout the year.

But the Democratic Party also has its own conservatives and radicals. Observers note that both sides put political confrontation above common sense. As the oldest Republican congressman J. Dingell noted, “with such a parliament it would be impossible to accept even the ten commandments or“ Our Father ”. Another example: Republicans offered to adopt a budget in exchange for the fact that implementation of health care reform would be postponed for a year, but the Democrats refused. Then the Republicans tried to put to the vote a kind of mini-laws on the partial restoration of funding for individual industries. But for the adoption of such laws, instead of the budget, two thirds of the votes are needed, and the majority of Democrats again refuse to vote for funding only those programs that Republicans like.

In fact, Democrats go for broke. According to the provisions of the 2010 Law on Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care, from October 1 on 2013, Americans would be eligible to purchase health insurance policies through government subsidies. It is obvious that after this reform would become irreversible, and no politician would decide to take away the already issued medical insurance. Therefore, the Republicans went to the most severe confrontation.

But the causes of the crisis should also be sought in the flaws of American political culture. The parameters of the American political system in modern conditions contribute to the fact that the political process increasingly overshadows the process of government. In theory, elections are only a procedure that determines who will rule the state. Today, in the United States, the election victory has become an end in itself for politicians. Therefore, many Republicans prefer to remain silent, fearing to incur the wrath of the tea party activists, who can express themselves in the next election in the appearance of an ultra-right candidate for the primaries in their district.

What does the whole picture look like? For a person brought up in the traditions of European political culture, which has always clearly separated right and left, the American system looks somewhat strange. We have to admit that, as President, Obama was not as decisive and progressive as he seemed during the election campaign of the 2008 of the year, delivering radical slogans. However, on the American ideological scale, the president continues to be "left."

Let's see what the "Lefts" still offer today. The main part of their program consists of measures against climate change: the creation of new state bodies to combat pollution of the environment, the tightening of environmental standards, the formulation of new international initiatives and the prohibition of new projects for the extraction and transportation of oil and gas. Their program installations also include easing criminal law, restricting arms trafficking, immigration reform, ensuring maximum access to abortion, and respect for American voting rights. But the president is especially actively urged to limit the omnipotence of the special services.

Therefore, the Republicans, and especially their “tea” wing, clearly captured the secret meaning of this program: if the United States legalizes millions of undocumented immigrants, then the power in the country will be transferred to the Democratic Party for decades. But even without tea-drinkers, many of these requirements could only be met in an imaginary, ideal world, although in theory Obama could accept some reasonable suggestions (limiting military spending, immigration reform, tightening arms trafficking, spending on upgrading infrastructure). However, in practice, the president’s capabilities in the realities of American politics are seriously limited primarily by the need to get congressional support.

But the Tea Party Movement is not lonely. There is also, in close symbiosis with the movement, the right-wing organization Club for Growth (Club for Growth), which did everything to put the negotiations on the US budget for the 2014 fiscal year on the verge of collapse. The club for economic growth was founded three decades ago by a group of New York-based financiers who raise money in support of ultra-conservative candidates for free trade, against all types of government regulation of the economy. Since 2006, they have spent more than 55 million dollars on campaigns of various legislators. It was this ultra-conservative structure that contributed to the election of roughly 50 right-wing congressmen who formed the backbone of the tea faction in the chamber.

They ultimately require Barack Obama to cancel the allocations for the implementation of the 2010 Law of the Year “On Protection of Patients and Affordable Health Care”, which is considered to be almost the main (and even the only) achievement of his presidency. That is, we have a part of that notorious “backstage”, which, according to many, controls America and the world from behind the scenes of the official political process.

As a result, part of the republican plan worked - Obama was forced to sign a decree on the suspension of the government. However, it soon became clear that, in the words of one political analyst, the Republicans "took the wrong hostage."

The result of such a radical position of the "tea wing" was the rapid decline in the popularity of the entire Republican Party. Radical policies could cost Republicans a losing congressional election in 2014. If the party does not take any steps to clean up its ranks, then its defeat and the presidential election 2016, almost predetermined.

Opinion polls show that 70 percent of respondents believe that the Republican Party acts on their own interests, not the interests of the country. About 60 percent of Americans are in favor of accelerating the current composition of the congress. Unlike the "tea-drinkers" who have nothing to lose, a number of moderate Republicans (especially in the northeastern states) risk losing congressional elections in 2014. Those have their own "tea" electorate (to which about 40 percent of Republican voters identify themselves), which supports them. The problem is that the voice of the moderate sounds is not too loud yet. Of all two hundred moderate Republicans of the House of Representatives, only about two dozen publicly oppose the “tea” adventure.

Thus, it is possible that the Republicans will even lose the majority in the House of Representatives. The party is steadily losing popularity among Americans. If now, according to one of the polls, the share of Democratic voters is 38 percent of the total electorate, and Republicans 31, then among young people born in 1980, Democrats are already 41, and Republicans only 21 percent. Republicans are positioning themselves as a retrograde force opposing all that the youth is fighting for, and this is the legalization of marijuana, same-sex marriage, and contraception (by the way, check yourself on these points, maybe you are also from dummies).

Surveys conducted by the Gallup service show that the number of persistent opponents of the "tea party" is 20 percent more than the number of its strong supporters. Thus, support from the “tea party” can help candidates during the republican primaries, which start as early as December, but in general elections it can be a rather negative factor.

The perspective for Republicans is as follows: they should have lost the elections to the chamber in 2012, but only frauds with the borders of the polling stations saved them. If even these frauds will save the party in congressional elections in 2014, then in the presidential election in 2016, the party led by the Tea Movement may well expect a shameful defeat. In order to prevent such a development of events, the sensible and active core of the party should use the remaining time to reorganize its ranks, distancing itself from the political practices and ideological slogans of the radicals and try to intercept the oscillating part of the electorate. But it will be extremely difficult to do this. But here is an example from recent history: the instantaneous restructuring of the Democratic Party and the implementation of the political project “Barack Obama” in 2008.

... and what to do

The fact is that the problems of the second term of the presidency of Barack Obama - fiscal, arms, climate and immigration - are not separated from each other. Their decision or remaining unresolved shows the real state of the American economy and politics. At the same time, as a tactical move, Barack Obama is trying to overcome disagreements with the help of discourses on American exclusivity and on this foundation look for a compromise with the Republicans.

Photo source: libertynews.com In the political field, a compromise that moderate Republicans would probably agree to is achievable if the Senate rejects the postponement of the Law on Accessible Medical Care (or, as they call it, Obamacare), approving the second document concerning the abolition tax, not found unanimous support among Democrats.

But the compromise does not eliminate the main problem, which is that America has for many years allowed itself to operate with a budget with a large deficit due to foreign investments covering this deficit. If Congress refuses to increase the already astronomical debt, America will no longer be able to pay a significant portion of its debts to creditors. This development will entail a grandiose panic in the global financial markets with completely unpredictable consequences for the whole world. If the country survives a sequestration, which can be called a paralysis of the government (as you know, it has already happened 17 times during the existence of the United States), then a default is much more dangerous and will be a paralysis of the national and world economy.

In the financial and economic field, the output could be a reduction in budget expenditures of 1,2 trillion. dollars (despite the fact that the expenditure side of the US budget for the 2013 fiscal year should be 3,8 trillion). The White House believes that in the future, when such a situation recurs, the catastrophic scenario can be avoided by closing the financing of secondary programs and increasing revenues. To do this, Obama intends to conduct an audit of budget expenditures, he will insist on raising taxes for wealthy Americans and abolishing benefits for large corporations, with which the rightists in both parties disagree.

But reserves for savings exist. The geopolitical (or “great-power, imperialist” ambitions of America) would prevent them from launching. In 2012, the budget application of the State Department and the Agency for International Development amounted to 51,6 billion dollars, while the Pentagon spent about 115 billion dollars just for the war in Afghanistan that same year. That is, the United States must radically reduce military spending. But this will not happen, and in this both Democrats and Republicans are united.

At the same time, today, the military contingents of America operate in the territories of more than 150 countries. The number of troops on the battlefields outside of America exceeds 168 thousand people. Nevertheless, the administration of President B. Obama has foreseen a reduction in the budget of the Ministry of Defense by 259 billion and by 487 billion within a decade over the next five years. The whole question is who will come to power in the elections in 2016 year?

There are other reserves, and they are directly related to the root cause of the crisis - medical reform. In the United States, the highest cost of bureaucratic costs in the health care system and the highest rates of payment for the services of medical specialists in the provision of medical services to the population are recorded. The solution would be to reduce these costs, but this is almost impossible to do. The rising cost of medical services will continue to lead to an increase in the US budget deficit and, accordingly, thereby undermine the foundations of the entire state economy. It is necessary to eliminate excess medical services that dominate the American system in many uncoordinated areas of health care.

In the banking and financial sector, zero interest rate in 0,25 percent and keeping it until the end of 2015 can be used as tactical measures. The Fed can also buy government bonds and mortgages in 85 billion dollars a month in the market, pumping liquidity into the financial system. But at the same time, it is necessary to adopt a law that gives the state new powers to tighten financial reporting standards in order to prevent fraud and conflict of interest situations on the part of financiers, as was the case in the 2000s and, in fact, led to the 2008 crisis of the year.

According to experts, over the past fifty years, six economic cycles have been recorded in the USA, each of which contained five conditional stages: 1) slowdown; 2) drop; 3) rebound; 4) stabilization; 5) overclocking. Statistical analysis shows that, on average, each stage accounted for about 20 percent of the cycle time and about 20 months. The US economy needs to implement the fifth stage - overclocking. If F. Bernanke’s plan (to predetermine market behavior by guaranteeing a low interest rate in the context of money supply growth) overclocking the US economy does not work, that is, until the end of 2015, neither inflation nor unemployment will reach target levels, we can expect long-term deflation which, at least until the end of the current decade, the growth rates of GDP, prices and employment will remain low.

To reduce unemployment, of course, the economy must grow. But is unemployment in the United States reduced in reality? It should be borne in mind that recently the decrease in unemployment by more than a third is connected not with hiring, but with a change in the structure of the population: its part that does not join the concept of “labor force” grows faster. The two main reasons for reducing labor force, which do not officially affect the unemployment rate, are the accelerated retirement of baby boomers born in 1950 – 60-s, and continuing education and / or full retraining through second education (24 – 50 years) . In both cases, this is structural unemployment, which is not officially taken into account.

Consumer prices react vividly to the dynamics of government spending, which began to decline markedly in the current year in order to limit the growth of public debt, which exceeded 50 thousand dollars per person (8 percent per year). Solving the problem of public debt in conditions of slow economic growth is possible either by accelerating inflation (this is not the Fed’s success yet), or by raising taxes (the process has just begun), or by reducing government spending (primarily military). Unwinding of the monetary spiral, undoubtedly, will give a positive, but short-term effect. In general, without real structural and fundamental economic reforms, the United States will continue the deflationary path in the coming years, for which bursts of super-monetarism are not only an obstacle, but also a long-term strategy.

In addition, the problem of real estate market regulation is acute. The necessary measures include the following: an increase in the down payment, stricter requirements for the borrower's credit history and the stability of his income, confirmation of ownership of other assets, an explanation of the availability of new credit cards and savings in bank accounts and the introduction of more stringent requirements and restrictions on the housing being purchased.

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Photo source: biography.com Thus, the B. Obama administration faces difficult decisions. The current American political elite will have to go to unpopular measures to reduce social standards. But Americans are so accustomed to a comfortable life with large benefits and pensions that they cannot even accept this idea. On the way to heavy, but real measures, the Republicans, conservatives, and rightists of all stripes stand to death.

Among the obstacles to the strengthening of B. Obama’s reform activities, it is possible to note the continued rejection by the majority of Americans of the state in no other role than “necessary evil”; mistrust of the middle class to the president as a representative of a multi-ethnic conglomerate, most of whom use the achievements of the American economy, but whose contribution to it cannot be significant; the powerful resistance of the wealthy elite and the continued dominance of money in everything connected with the general political and cultural discourse; debugged system of privileges for those who fell into the ruling elite.

The only way out of the situation could be the usual “technical” resolution, which does not contain any political initiatives that could be supported by moderate Republicans and Democrats, which, in fact, happened. However, a small, but strongly determined group of right-wing radicals has no incentive to compromise. They ended up in Congress precisely against the backdrop of the revitalization of right-wing groups. Therefore, with absolute certainty, it can be expected that the crisis in January-February of 2014 will repeat and, perhaps, in even more dramatic forms.

In terms of political alignment in the establishment, the budget crisis showed the desire of President’s opponents in Congress to prove that Barack Obama cannot effectively manage the country and that the Republicans will not give him any more serious reform steps until the end of his term. Many observers and representatives of the Democratic Party in Congress have no doubt that already at the beginning of next year, right-wing Republicans will resume the struggle for the abolition of health care reform, initiated by the US president once on the wave of Obamamania.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 30 November 2013 07: 35
    +9
    like this, live on credit. but they probably think that they will not have to give. and they will do everything in order not to give. Maybe the Yankees are now blacks back to Africa to sell? and the population will decrease, and at least some denyuzhka will appear
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 30 November 2013 08: 21
      +8
      Quote: andrei332809
      maybe the Yankees now sell blacks back to Africa?

      And who will buy, maybe you want? I don’t advise, it’s a sore for your money on your own * opa. wassat
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 30 November 2013 08: 32
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        maybe you want?

        Thank God I don’t live in Africa. And bananas and we have dofig tongue
      2. smile
        smile 30 November 2013 16: 49
        +3
        Revolver
        :)))) For some reason I had an association - Tom and Jerry are throwing a stick of dynamite with a burning fuse-cord to each other, and on the block is written in large letters - "Negroes". :)))
        I'm afraid many Americans would have paid extra if someone decided to acquire their blacks, like the kidnappers in the "Leader of the Redskins", returning the kidnapped miracle child to their parents .... :)))
      3. cayman gene
        cayman gene 1 December 2013 01: 01
        0
        no, dear, neither you, nor your filthy blacks, I'm sorry, your most fervent Afro-ethis, in our case, we ask you sorry, they will not come in handy with you. stick your pistol somewhere, I don’t know how to spell this word, but it’s better to stick it in w .. there will be no problems with spelling in this spelling. but otherwise, always at your service. welcome, as they say.
      4. cayman gene
        cayman gene 1 December 2013 01: 08
        0
        how much I don’t like arachnid amers, and all the blasphemous things that are connected with them, who would only know ?!
    2. hommer
      hommer 30 November 2013 08: 55
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      like this, live on credit. but they probably think that you won’t have to give

      Quote: andrei332809
      The problem of public debt in the conditions of slow economic growth can be solved either by accelerating inflation (the Fed has not succeeded so far), or by raising taxes (the process has just begun), or by reducing government spending (primarily military). The unwinding of the monetary spiral will undoubtedly give a positive, but short-term effect. On the whole, without real structural and fundamental economic reforms, the United States will continue the deflationary path in the coming years, for which surges of super-monarism are not only an obstacle, but also a long-term strategy.


      N-yeah. Looks like things are really bad in the United States, even if Laumullin, who is sufficiently pro-American, gives such articles.

      About the author - Trained at the Monterey Institute of International Relations (USA, 1992), at the US State Department and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Germany (1993, 1994). As a visiting researcher, M.T. Laumulin worked in various foreign centers - at the University of Maryland in 1994, the Center for Nuclear Non-Proliferation at the Monterey Institute for International Studies in 1995 (USA), and the Center for the Study of European Integration (Germany) in 1997-1998.
    3. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 30 November 2013 12: 22
      -5
      Quote: andrei332809
      like this, live on credit. but they probably think that they will not have to give.

      Why are you so worried about American debt? Are you few of your own?
      "Russia's external debt rose to $ 623,963 billion as of January 1, 2013 from $ 540,555 billion as of January 1, 2012. This is evidenced by preliminary data from the Bank of Russia."
      Do we have many domestic blacks? Who are you offering us to sell?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 30 November 2013 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Who are you offering us to sell?
      2. avg
        avg 30 November 2013 15: 19
        +7
        You are replacing concepts. We are talking about public debt, which at the end of November 2013 the United States - 17,3 trillion dollars., Russia - 55,78 billion dollars.
        1. Migari
          Migari 30 November 2013 16: 55
          +2
          Quote: avg
          You are replacing concepts. We are talking about public debt, which at the end of November 2013 the United States - 17,3 trillion dollars., Russia - 55,78 billion dollars.

          And not only replaces, but taking this information cut it, that's what goes on
          With an increase in external debt in 2011, Russia owed exclusively to the private sector, and government and monetary authorities reduced their debt slightly.
          and the numbers speak for themselves, trillions and billions, is there a difference?
        2. smile
          smile 30 November 2013 16: 56
          +3
          avg
          And this is the corporate style of presenting information by Comrade S_mirnov - not a word of truth, where you can’t lie directly - it will turn around and still lie, pretending to be a stupid person who does not understand what he’s carrying .... :)))
          And in general, it seems that Putin personally didn’t take it from him and doesn’t give it back ... therefore, S-Mirnov feels such a personal dislike for him that he can’t eat .... which you won’t get hungry ... :)))
          1. Victor-M
            Victor-M 30 November 2013 23: 32
            +1
            Quote: smile
            And this is the corporate style of presenting information by Comrade S_mirnov - not a word of truth

            In my memory, this is the 3rd bald, not promising anything good for Russia.
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 November 2013 21: 32
          -3
          http://www.rg.ru/2013/01/11/dolg-anons.html
          What are these concepts I substitute? Russia has an external debt, the responsibility of which will be the population of Russia.
          1. alexng
            alexng 1 December 2013 16: 32
            -1
            It looks like you already have a diagnosis or you are at the rate of the State Department.
            It may be enough to drag a shit from the Internet dumps. Here is the real state. the debt is on the website of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation and amounts to a purely technical version of 55,78 billion wrappers, and it also contains part of the debt for the USSR.
            http://www.minfin.ru/ru/public_debt/external/structure/

            Maybe you have enough to work in the West and the USA? How much can you lie? Or is it your old senility, which is not amenable to treatment?
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 1 December 2013 21: 25
              +1
              Quote: alexneg
              It looks like you already have a diagnosis or you are at the rate of the State Department.

              Tell me, as a specialist, where can I get money from the State Department for my comments (address, surname cashier), by golly, I’m glad that the State Department paid me more money !!! Less on the orange revolution will remain!
              Quote: alexneg
              Here is the real state. debt on the website of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation and amounts to 55,78 billion candy wrappers from a purely technical version

              Thanks again for enlightening us! 55780 million divide the debt into the population of the Russian Federation 143 = 390 candy wrappers for each citizen (including newborns and pensioners).
              Here is the really important information needed by the citizens of the Russian Federation !!!
              You can, after all, if you want something useful to say!
              1. alexng
                alexng 2 December 2013 00: 07
                -1
                Well, if the State Department does not pay you "for work on them," then you and .. from. It's time for the State Department to present you with the order. You still need to look for such a Russophobe and hater of your Motherland, like you.
                Do you even have a concept, what does technical trade debt and its depth mean? Otherwise, trading is only possible on a prepaid basis. In general, prepaid trading is an ordinary roulette: you pay and you do not know what you will get, in terms of quality. We would get acquainted even with the elementary conditions of interstate relations before carrying such nonsense. Where are such ignoramuses recruited? I conjure you - remove the Hero-Kovpak from your avatar, you are not worthy of him. Kovpak was and is the hero of his homeland, and you are a cheap traitor who hates Russia.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 2 December 2013 10: 08
                  0
                  Quote: alexneg
                  and you are a traitor, cheap, hating Russia.

                  Well, why do you have if a person does not admire Putin and the bargains in power, is he immediately a traitor? Whom did I betray? Putin, Medvedev, Serdyukov, Chubais, Gaidar, Gorbachev, Yeltsin? So I did not swear allegiance to them!
                  1. alexng
                    alexng 3 December 2013 12: 51
                    0
                    And here Putin, etc.
                    You are betraying Russia, constantly throwing out blame on the Internet fan and always defending the Americans in everything, turning the arrows to Russian "problems", sometimes sucked out of your finger. You are clumsy to pretend to be a patriot. Most likely you are a mishandled kid, smeared over several nicknames.
      3. Rost_a
        Rost_a 30 November 2013 20: 13
        +2
        Somehow your comment turned out. A specific article about the situation in the United States is very interesting by the way. Whether it bothers or not is another matter.
      4. alone
        alone 30 November 2013 20: 36
        +4
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Who are you offering us to sell?


        D .. effective managers. I’m thinking you won’t be able to earn much.
    4. APES
      APES 30 November 2013 14: 30
      +4
      Quote: andrei332809
      they probably think that they will not have to give.

      don't even think - sure
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 30 November 2013 15: 36
        +3
        Quote: APES
        don't even think - sure

        Well, they are exceptional, they can belay
  2. bomg.77
    bomg.77 30 November 2013 07: 39
    +3
    America’s only option is a gradual devaluation of the dollar.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2013 08: 10
      12
      her solution is always different, war! and away from you ...
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 30 November 2013 08: 26
        +3
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        her way out is always different - war! and away from you ..
        Even every year, let them fight their debts, they will not block, unless they slap their creditors, which is unlikely to be pissed off!
  3. makarov
    makarov 30 November 2013 07: 47
    +4
    Previously, the opposition’s position was expressed purely in accordance with literary classics; - To beat or not to beat (Obama), is that the question? Judging by the described forecast, the answer is BAT in 2014.
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 30 November 2013 12: 08
      +3
      wait a minute, and Barak Hussein Barak Husseinich is on which side? Did he do any debts?
  4. makarov
    makarov 30 November 2013 07: 47
    0
    Previously, the opposition’s position was expressed purely in accordance with literary classics; - To beat or not to beat (Obama), is that the question? Judging by the described forecast, the answer is BAT in 2014.
  5. Revolver
    Revolver 30 November 2013 08: 15
    0
    In many ways, this is garbage.
    Elections are held in 2 stages; candidates are nominated at the 1st party (therefore, only registered party members vote), and only at the second stage are congressmen and senators selected from the nominated candidates — in general, from a city council member for 5 people in a small town to the US president, and then everyone votes.
    But in the primary elections, party activists are mainly active. It so happened that the Democrats are extremely left, and the Republicans are extremely right. As a result, the general public is offered by no means those candidates who are impressed by it (i.e., centrists), but are much more extreme and polarizing, who are impressed only by the party’s asset. So you have to choose the lesser of 2 evils.
    sad
    Although it’s always better than choosing one of one. negative
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 30 November 2013 23: 24
      0
      yes spit on your stinking Americans with poisonous saliva. so that they all, Americans, have in mind, rested now and forever. Primorye, animals, their mother ..
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  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 30 November 2013 08: 36
    +5
    As a layman, it seems to me that the threat of a global crisis in the event of a default of the United States is greatly exaggerated.
    Take the same China with its crazy amount in US government bonds, that the Chinese really hope to get something from them ... it is doubtful. Someone is beneficial to maintain fear among the masses, they are doing this and not unsuccessfully.
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 30 November 2013 09: 02
      +3
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      As a layman, it seems to me that the threat of a global crisis in the event of a default of the United States is greatly exaggerated.

      I agree. With the collapse of any design, the details are taken away by those who are more smart ... so that fucking something is possible.
      It is only necessary to remove dependence on "green", which China is doing.
  8. Stinger
    Stinger 30 November 2013 09: 54
    +1
    You cannot live indefinitely on debt. Sooner or later, we will have to move from the formula of chairs against money, to the formula first money, then chairs. Particularly "logical" seems to be the calls of countries that have a national debt of one or more GDP, in a tough form to insist on reducing the public debt of other countries with this debt by an order of magnitude lower. Those. we can live at your expense, but you cannot live at ours.
  9. Stinger
    Stinger 30 November 2013 09: 54
    0
    You cannot live indefinitely on debt. Sooner or later, we will have to move from the formula of chairs against money, to the formula first money, then chairs. Particularly "logical" seems to be the calls of countries that have a national debt of one or more GDP, in a tough form to insist on reducing the public debt of other countries with this debt by an order of magnitude lower. Those. we can live at your expense, but you cannot live at ours.
  10. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 30 November 2013 09: 55
    +3
    Budget wars between Democrats and Republicans on the adoption of the state budget for next year, a talented staged performance for simpletons. It is only necessary to raise the question: who owns power in America? Answer: to a limited circle of multibillionaires, in whose hands the whole industrial America. Everything will be as these moneybags decide And the "fight" for the budget is an attempt to prove that the country has the most "perfect" democracy in the world. So this topic is not worth breaking spears ...
  11. olviko
    olviko 30 November 2013 11: 30
    +3
    America’s problem is, first of all, that it has sat on the neck of the whole globe and does not want to slam off. They grabbed debts that they could never repay and continue to get into debt further. It is clear that the United States is interested in maintaining this state of affairs.
  12. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 30 November 2013 11: 37
    0
    http://www.abird.ru/articles/USA_debt

    USA debt online
  13. Sigismund
    Sigismund 30 November 2013 11: 42
    0
    This all resembles a tightening loop called default. Permanently filling the world with nothing not secured by "green" and debt obligations will not work. Sooner or later there will be a "breakdown". It's hard to imagine what will happen behind this. A serious war is not serious. Even the most ardent hawks understand that they are unlikely to succeed in our time, where they will sit out. It remains to trash everything and everyone and let off steam in their wars. But this does not last forever.
  14. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 30 November 2013 13: 33
    +2
    The rulers of the USA have imagined themselves a lot with their "exclusivity" and with military expenditures to promote "democracy" - this is tantamount to the fact that a ballroom dance teacher becomes an elephant.
    By significantly reducing the exorbitant military budget, removing military bases from abroad and abandoning programs of "taming countries" in opposition to Russia, it is still possible to somehow restore the situation. But ambition and living at someone else's expense simply will not let them do it. They continue to transfer their problems to a fictitious enemy to unite the "nation".
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 30 November 2013 13: 54
      +1
      Neighbor Belarus.
      The question - "Who will put in place of the damned p. And. Andos?" The answer is ???
      I was always "killed" by shapkozakidatelskie comments on "VO", but after thinking them over, there was nothing but a smile.
      Like, dislike, like me, but the USA is No. 1 in the world. Axiom.
      A little analysis.

      The United States is still the world leader and is likely to remain for more than a decade. They far surpass the rest of the world in soft power. Every year, more immigrants (1 million) arrive in America than in any other country in the world. The United States leads the world in high technology (Silicon Valley), finance and business (Wall Street), film production (Hollywood) and higher education (17 of the 20 leading world universities rated by Shanghai Jiaotong University). In terms of trade profile, the United States is a typical “first world” country (active export of consumer and technological goods and import of natural resources). Compare with Russia.
      America continues to lead the world in foreign direct investment, almost doubling its closest competitor. The United States has the most powerful army in the world, on which they spend $ 560 billion a year. Their GDP ($ 16 trillion) more than doubles that of China. Their stock market is at a historically record level, reflecting US leadership in the global economy.
      Further, who, besides the United States, can lay claim to world leadership? Europeans? Japanese? Russians? In Europe, unemployment is now at 12% (in Greece and Spain - at 26%) and almost zero economic growth, in addition, the population in many of the countries of the European Union is declining. The population of Japan is also declining and rapidly aging, few immigrants arrive in the country, and the Japanese public debt is 240% of GDP. In addition, in the past two decades, Japan's economy has grown extremely slowly. Although Russia has recently been frequently mentioned in the press as a country hosting the Olympics and rampant corruption, this still does not make it a superpower. She has a third-world trade profile, GDP like Canada (which is less than 15% of the United States GDP), and she has neither soft power, nor Silicon Valley, nor Hollywood, nor Wall Street, nor universities with high ratings.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 30 November 2013 16: 12
        +3
        Quote: goldfinger
        They far surpass the rest of the world in soft power. Every year, many more immigrants (1 million) arrive in America than in any other country in the world.

        A familiar song, everyone who comes from there says so, here you are with your koment and there is a drop of this soft power. laughing
        Your Old Man is very smart, what are his tasks? Just clean up your courtyard. What about Russia and Putin? To protect this world and you, including along with the Old Man, to contain nuclear forces and a powerful army, no one has offended you. Give you oil and gas so that you do not freeze, buy your goods, so that you do not bend out of hunger and help with defense and arms. Of course you Lafa, cool, you have tracks like in Europe and you live until the 72 year, etc. But Putin and Russian fools in comparison with the main Tsebul, for the fact that they contain you as parasites of good people who do not remember. Here with such educated-processed and maydauny get.
        Respectfully your neighbor from Kazakhstan hi
  15. goldfinger
    goldfinger 30 November 2013 13: 50
    0
    Neighbor Belarus.

    I was always "killed" by shapkozakidatelskie comments on "VO", but after thinking them over, there was nothing but a smile.
    Like, dislike, like me, but the USA is No. 1 in the world. Axiom.
    A little analysis.

    The United States is still the world leader and is likely to remain for more than a decade. They far surpass the rest of the world in soft power. Every year, more immigrants (1 million) arrive in America than in any other country in the world. The United States leads the world in high technology (Silicon Valley), finance and business (Wall Street), film production (Hollywood) and higher education (17 of the 20 leading world universities rated by Shanghai Jiaotong University). In terms of trade profile, the United States is a typical “first world” country (active export of consumer and technological goods and import of natural resources). Compare with Russia.
    America continues to lead the world in foreign direct investment, almost doubling its closest competitor. The United States has the most powerful army in the world, on which they spend $ 560 billion a year. Their GDP ($ 16 trillion) more than doubles that of China. Their stock market is at a historically record level, reflecting US leadership in the global economy.
    Further, who, besides the United States, can lay claim to world leadership? Europeans? Japanese? Russians? In Europe, unemployment is now at 12% (in Greece and Spain - at 26%) and almost zero economic growth, in addition, the population in many of the countries of the European Union is declining. The population of Japan is also declining and rapidly aging, few immigrants arrive in the country, and the Japanese public debt is 240% of GDP. In addition, in the past two decades, Japan's economy has grown extremely slowly. Although Russia has recently been frequently mentioned in the press as a country hosting the Olympics and rampant corruption, this still does not make it a superpower. She has a third-world trade profile, GDP like Canada (which is less than 15% of the United States GDP), and she has neither soft power, nor Silicon Valley, nor Hollywood, nor Wall Street, nor universities with high ratings.
  16. goldfinger
    goldfinger 30 November 2013 13: 51
    +5
    Neighbor Belarus. Let's continue a little analysis.
    What about China and India? Although both countries have made significant progress in recent decades, they still have serious problems. In China, 650 million people live in poor rural areas, and in terms of GDP per capita ($ 6, 100% of US GDP per capita), it occupies only 12th place in the world. As Chinese leaders themselves often admit, China is likely to become a fully modern country no earlier than 87.

    As for India, there are 830 million people (almost 70% of the population) living in poor rural areas. More than 160 million Indians do not have access to water, electricity and sanitation. India leads the world in the number of illiterates — 35% of Indian women cannot read and write. No less than 25% of the population has no electricity. GDP per capita is $ 1 (only 500% of the US), which provides it with 3th place in the world in this parameter.

    As the old political proverb says, it is impossible to lose unless you have an opponent. And at the moment, there is no one on the horizon who would be able - at least in the next couple of decades - to overtake the United States or seriously challenge them.
    I repeat, like many, I do not like the hegemony of one country in world politics. It's time for Russia to think seriously about its place in the world.! It's high time, after all, two decades of trampling in one place (not surpassed by the GDP of 1990.sic!) - this can lead you to the "third world". And the states don't even need to fight with anyone!
    And they will print so much money that everything will be brought to them on a "silver platter". It seems to me that Russia is fixated on its resources, as opposed to the real economy. It is not good.
    1. alexng
      alexng 1 December 2013 16: 54
      0
      Quote: goldfinger
      And they will print so much money that everything will be brought to them on a "silver platter".


      "Sadness" is no longer even theoretically able to print the required "candy wrappers". The virtual economy leaped away from the Yankees so much that its material component will never be able to catch up. All! The point of no return has already been passed. Now everyone is pulling rubber to better prepare for the collapse of this priceless deception. Russia is already slowly weaning it off the dollar.
  17. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 30 November 2013 13: 53
    +2
    Not so she, cursed, and split. As noted in the article, this case is by no means the first.
    Typical arrogant Saxon political technologies and, like lobbying, are now being developed and cultivated in the states. All this rubbish, by the hands of home-grown anti-Soviet Russophobic liberalists, is intensely cultivated in Russia. As noted in the article, the politicians of the United States played in politics, forgetting about the people and the country. Doesn’t resemble anything? Exactly.
    The arrogant Saxons have enough cold, cynical sanity to turn where they need to, for the sake of self-preservation. They even fought with each other. This is all external, to the public. So it’s too early to bury the United States in their current world.
  18. olviko
    olviko 30 November 2013 15: 36
    +1
    "The United States is still the world leader and is likely to remain so for decades to come."

    The topic is interesting, you can continue. Personally, it seemed to me that your analysis is somewhat one-sided. First, let's take the USSR. Also a powerful army and special services, the second economy in the world at that time. In order not to be unfounded, with your permission, I will quote from the report of Senator William Proxmeyer, vice-chairman of the Subcommittee on International Trade, Finance and the Protection of Economic Interests, to Congress, based on the analysis of the Soviet economy of the US CIA. So: "The Soviet Union is our main potential enemy, and this gives even more reason to have an accurate and objective assessment of the state of its economy. The worst thing we can do is to underestimate the economic power of our main enemy." the report is that the Soviet Union, although weakened by the inefficient functioning of the agricultural sector and burdened with high defense spending, economically ranks second in the world in terms of gross national product, has numerous and well-trained productive forces, is highly developed in industrial relation.
    The USSR also possesses huge reserves of minerals, including oil, gas, and relatively scarce minerals and precious metals. "
    And it is also interesting: “Despite the fact that there are discrepancies between the economic plans and their implementation in the USSR, the economic collapse of this country is not even a distant possibility.” That is, the CIA, the collapse of the USSR, did not even dream of! The USSR collapsed. So what's the matter? The army, the KGB are stronger than ever, the economic growth has slowed down, but the GDP is growing by 1,5-2 percent a year, according to the same CIA report .. But there is no country! I think the country has collapsed because IDEA. IDEA collapsed, as the foundation of the entire structure of the country.
    Now we are witnessing the beginning of the collapse of the global capitalist economy, is this not evidence of the collapse of IDEAS? I am not talking about the country and the people. Americans have a place in the future, like their country. I’m talking about philosophy, about the system, about morality, about understanding Good and Evil. In this sense, Russia has a chance to put forward its own idea of ​​a world order that is fundamentally different from the liberal Judeo-Protestant one, which has dominated the world for more than 300 years.
    Of course, this will require huge efforts from Russia in absolutely all areas: in industry, science, defense, law enforcement and lawmaking, education and culture, medicine, it’s hard to even imagine what we have to do to overcome the distance from what we are now to of what we must become so that God or, if you will, history is on our side.
    http://imperiya.by/news.html?id=119295
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 30 November 2013 16: 11
      +2
      Quote: olviko
      ! I think the country collapsed because the IDEA. IDEA collapsed

      Allow, dear opponent, to object. I hope you agree with me that the next US president will not be a clone of Obama's rag, but a representative of white America, its middle class? How did the conservative hawk Ronald Reagan, the communist grave digger, come after the Baptist idealist Jimmy Carter? The right-conservative ideology is not just a mechanical set of values, some of which can be discarded and argued that the new, reduced set is almost no different from the original. No, this ideology is a holistic organism, all parts of which are closely interconnected. For the American conservative, individual freedom naturally follows from those very traditional Protestant values, because, as stated in the US Declaration of Independence, "all people are created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights by the Creator." Rather, this freedom (along with reverence for the Constitution and the conviction that no government is entitled under any circumstances to cross the framework outlined by this Constitution) itself is an integral part of the very traditional values ​​that American conservatives protect. And this is the spirit of America, from the day it was founded. But Obama, it’s just the political grimace of America today, like your president, in my understanding, is not an expression of the spirit of Russia.
  19. DimychDV
    DimychDV 30 November 2013 17: 22
    +1
    Choose a Ninja Turtle, or Hillary - and we will not seem a little. They will lay a sewer under the Atlantic to Moscow, and they will start chopping down Russian "commies" with a rolled-up one. right in the subway ...
    And the IDEA - to us, Russia has been imposed by a simple one - is the primacy of the right of a scoundrel before a decent person. And imposed on the whole world. The blue minority are not carriers of sin and threats to the family structure of the universal human bisexual, family-organized society, but full-fledged (and even enjoying great advantages) members of society. Juvenile justice - beneficial to false carriers who have bonuses, and destroys families, leading children away from their parents. The invaders of the Serbian Kosovo - Muslims-Albanians - are clean lambs, and the Orthodox Serbs who have always lived here are like the Bunny, expelled by Fox from his native hut ... And examples of this can be multiplied and multiplied.
  20. olviko
    olviko 30 November 2013 18: 31
    0
    "The next US president will not be a clone of Obama's rag, but a representative of white America, its middle class?"

    Sorry for this item, I did not quite understand. In the USA, as far as I know, presidents are usually elected from the Democratic or Republican parties, I’ve heard about the middle-class party for the first time!
    During the Syrian crisis and the confrontation with Obama on a budget, Republicans did not show their best side. At first they demanded to bomb Iran in the name of Israel, then Syria in the name of the Wahhabis, as if America had not yet been at war. Even the army opposed the attack on Syria! Then this story was with a public debt that they wanted to link with Obamacare. As a result, the republicans lost their popularity in the region.
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  22. july
    july 30 November 2013 18: 46
    -1
    Quote: goldfinger
    The United States is still the world leader and is likely to remain for more than a decade.

    About a decade is far from a fact. Their world leadership is not based on their own, but on a corporate basis, and this is a web all over the world, in some ways this is their advantage, and in some ways an abyss. If the global crisis breaks out, it will be really bad for us, but I think not fatally, but to them - yes. Within one country, quick and adequate measures can be taken in comparison with the global economic system; the inertia of processes will not allow them to make quick and necessary decisions. By the way, did anyone see materials on the imitation of the global crisis in connection with the default of the buck? There are a lot of forecasts and reasoning, but are there really people who would paint this business on points starting from banks, heavy industry, agricultural, technology, etc. through the influence of corporations and affecting individual countries ... It would be interesting to get acquainted with this.
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  24. Rost_a
    Rost_a 30 November 2013 20: 19
    +1
    Quote: Valery Neon
    As a layman, it seems to me that the threat of a global crisis in the event of a default of the United States is greatly exaggerated.
    Take the same China with its crazy amount in US government bonds, that the Chinese really hope to get something from them ... it is doubtful. Someone is beneficial to maintain fear among the masses, they are doing this and not unsuccessfully.

    Tired of waiting for this default, reading various scary forecasts. Let's get it started? We find out at least what will happen.
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  26. Rost_a
    Rost_a 30 November 2013 20: 35
    +1
    Quote: goldfinger
    Quote: olviko
    ! I think the country collapsed because the IDEA. IDEA collapsed

    Allow, dear opponent, to object. I hope you agree with me that the next US president will not be a clone of Obama's rag, but a representative of white America, its middle class? How did the conservative hawk Ronald Reagan, the communist grave digger, come after the Baptist idealist Jimmy Carter? The right-conservative ideology is not just a mechanical set of values, some of which can be discarded and argued that the new, reduced set is almost no different from the original. No, this ideology is a holistic organism, all parts of which are closely interconnected. For the American conservative, individual freedom naturally follows from those very traditional Protestant values, because, as stated in the US Declaration of Independence, "all people are created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights by the Creator." Rather, this freedom (along with reverence for the Constitution and the conviction that no government is entitled under any circumstances to cross the framework outlined by this Constitution) itself is an integral part of the very traditional values ​​that American conservatives protect. And this is the spirit of America, from the day it was founded. But Obama, it’s just the political grimace of America today, like your president, in my understanding, is not an expression of the spirit of Russia.

    Which, in principle, does not contradict the statement of olviko. In my opinion, it is quite possible that the IDEA of building life is "obligatory for everyone" from America has come to an end.
  27. alone
    alone 30 November 2013 20: 43
    0
    Everything is too interconnected. The fall of America to the bottom of the gorge, do not wait. Other countries will not allow it. Although the Americans are nasty, but too many countries are economically connected with them. And a fall into the gorge will give a "domino effect." ...
  28. Boris63
    Boris63 30 November 2013 20: 54
    0
    America will not collapse until the rest of the WORLD wants it (they will stop carrying their grandmothers "to the slaughter"), including us. A huge GDP from bloated stocks and a printing press (it will be necessary, they will print and sell their dollars to everyone else), as well as attracting new "adepts" to their ranks.
  29. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 30 November 2013 23: 10
    +1
    An absurd article designed for people like me (members of the forum) If the collapse begins, no one will notice it.
  30. 1goose3
    1goose3 1 December 2013 00: 39
    0
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Who are you offering us to sell?


    D .. effective managers. I’m thinking you won’t be able to earn much.


    The country is even breathing deeply. And in the appendage to give them free S_mirnova, so that there would be no talk that they sold. laughing
  31. 1goose3
    1goose3 1 December 2013 00: 39
    -1
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Who are you offering us to sell?


    D .. effective managers. I’m thinking you won’t be able to earn much.


    The country is even breathing deeply. And in the appendage to give them free S_mirnova, so that there would be no talk that they sold. laughing
  32. mountain
    mountain 1 December 2013 09: 29
    -1
    Everything is very simple, America has reached the peak of its development. And in order to defuse the international and domestic situation, they need to share and repay debts. But I do not remember such cases in history.
    And, with regards to Russia, in front of us is a clandike, not an edge in opportunities and prospects, unless of course there will be interference and the wind will be favorable and the climate in Siberia will change and the president, deputies, oligarchs and thieves will not take so much, migrant workers will invest in our economy and will arrange subbotniks. In any case, life goes on and there is where to go and what to do.
  33. olviko
    olviko 1 December 2013 10: 26
    +2
    "And in order to defuse the international and domestic situation, they need to share and pay off their debts. But I do not remember such cases in history."

    There is no need for this - American debt obligations are designed in such a way that in case of default they are not secured. That is, as soon as the economy collapses - the United States is no longer responsible for debts. The story is bad, of course, but those who purchase US debt notes are well aware of this. Thus, this is their responsibility, too, and perhaps even in the first place. Here it turns out!
    http://contrpost.com/ru/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3361-vaterloo-v-vashingtone-ili-u
    -kogo-eti-lyudi-mogut-vyigrat
  34. Keeper
    Keeper 1 December 2013 16: 56
    +1
    In America, all the fuss with politics is like riding a bicycle: first you try to keep your balance, then you ride without hands, then you try to rush at full speed, then race with the wind, and then "draw millimeters", playing on the brakes - will you have time to slow down or not .. But you always have time !!!
    All this clowning is just to make the world community nervous, which begins to rush from one extreme to another. And all this resembles a new rich player on the exchange - there is a lot of money, but there is no experience! So it turns out that ordinary people begin to buy dollars, then sell at a not very favorable rate ... And all this garbage in America is created to feel the big roll ... Like a storm .... But this storm is a storm in a glass! Artificial garbage!
    Remember, when there was such a crisis in our Russia that they did not pay in money, but for barter, and the deals were awesome! But the state had nothing from this ... that's why they "closed the shop".
    The world will not fall below the dollar! And do not die from the loss of this currency!