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Astronaut survival weapons: TP-82 pistol

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In the 1980-ies in the USSR was created weapon Cosmonauts' self-defense - a hunting non-automatic 3-barreled pistol TP-82, which became part of the special SONAZ complex (small arms of a portable emergency reserve). The initiator of the creation of special small arms for domestic astronauts was Alexei Leonov. In 1979, a famous Soviet cosmonaut visited an arms factory located in Tula. There, he told the gunsmiths that astronauts who landed in 1965 on the territory of the Perm Region from the Voskhod-2 spacecraft lost contact with the search group. As a result, the astronauts were forced to wait a whole day for help. Astronauts were searched using helicopters.


All this time, which they spent in the winter forest in deep snow, could be their last. In the Perm forests there are a large number of different predatory animals that could attack people. At the same time, cosmonauts had absolutely nothing to protect themselves. Then Leonov noted that if the astronauts had a special multifunctional weapon, they could feel more confident in the winter forest. In 1981, the idea of ​​Leonov, who at that time was already not just the first cosmonaut to go into outer space, but also the deputy head of the Cosmonaut Training Center, quickly found official support. Already in 1982, the TP-82 pistol was officially accepted for the supply of Soviet space missions.

TP-82 was designed to ensure the survival of astronauts and crews of long-range aircraft aviationwho landed outside a given territory in the wild. TP-82 is a non-automatic three-barrel hunting gun. Its main purpose is to protect astronauts from dangerous forest animals, as well as criminal elements, weapons can be used for hunting by means of hunting, as well as giving visual signals of visual observation if the descent vehicle has landed or splashed in a sparsely populated, uninhabited area. The pistol has 2 horizontal upper smooth trunks of the 32nd hunting caliber and a 5,45 mm caliber rifled barrel located under them.

Astronaut survival weapons: TP-82 pistol

The pistol was developed by the Tula Arms Plant, and the creation of ammunition for it was carried out by the Central Scientific Research Institute of Precision Engineering, located in the city of Klimovsk. The first domestic spacecraft that included this pistol complex was the Soyuz T-6, which was launched into space in the summer of 1982. After 4, the TP-82 pistol was also adopted by the USSR Air Force, and it was planned to use it as a survival weapon for long-range pilots who were forced to make an emergency landing. The release of the weapon was stopped in the 1987 year. According to the information that is available in the public domain, TP-82 non-automatic pistols were part of a wearable emergency stock of Soviet and then Russian spacecraft up to 2007 of the year. By this time, the storage period for ammunition for weapons, which were released back in the USSR, has expired.

Cosmonauts survival weapon TP-82 is a non-automatic pistol. The barrel unit pistol consists of 3-x barrels. The two upper ones are smooth-bore; they are intended for the use of 32 hunting cartridges of a caliber, the lower one is threaded, and is intended for the use of a cartridge 5,45х40 mm. The lower barrel of the gun has a special adjustment device, which consists of 3-x screws (one on the bottom and 2 on the sides) and is designed for shooting. Smooth pistol barrels have an ordinary extractor, which moves back when the barrel unit is tilted under the influence of 2's pins, which are located on the inner side of the pad on top of the pads. The lower barrel of the TP-82 pistol has a spring ejector, which is triggered by pressing a special button, which is located on the receiver unit on the left side, below.

The TP-82 pistol is reloaded with the help of a “blocking” of a barrel block (like in hunting rifles); the barrel latch has the shape of a long lever, which is horizontal in the left position above the pistol grip. In order to open the block of trunks, it is necessary to push the lever to the left. The gun is equipped with a trigger mechanism, it is non-self-cocked, has an 2 openly located trigger.


The right trigger of the pistol serves the right “smooth” barrel, the left trigger can freely switch between the lower rifled and the left “smooth” barrel, for this purpose there is a vertically moving switch on the frame on the left side. On a number of samples of the TP-82 pistol, an automatic fuse was installed, made in the form of a key on the handle located under the trigger guard. Sight adaptation of the gun of open type, fixed. In order to improve the accuracy of firing from a weapon, it was nominally staffed with a removable butt, which was loosely attached to the bottom of the pistol grip. This butt was also a specially designed machete with a trapezoidal blade, enclosed in a semi-rigid sheath. For firing machete in a sheath attached to the TP-82, at this time the lower part of the sheath to play the role of the butt plate.

Weapons used specially designed in TsNIITOCHMASH. PF Sazonov was the leader of the works on their creation. The developed ammunition kit included an 3 cartridge. The first of them was a fractional SP-D (created on the basis of the hunting 32 caliber). The 12,5x70-mm fractional cartridge in a brass sleeve was equivalent to the standard 20-caliber hunting rifle cartridge (15,9-mm) with fraction No.3, which was used in hunting rifles with 700 mm barrel length. Signal cartridge SP-P was also designed on the basis of hunting (signal cartridge with one red "asterisk"). It was significantly superior to the previously used 15-mm cartridge 7-8, first of all in the time of burning the signal checker. The bullet cartridge was designated as SP-P. It consisted of a semi-subunit bullet 5,45x40-mm, having a steel core and a special hole in the spout to increase the expansive effect. The vastness of the defeat with the help of such a cartridge in 8-10 times surpassed the performance of the bullet of an automatic cartridge 7H6 caliber 5,45-mm.

The effective firing range of these TP-82 pistol cartridges reached 200 meters using SP-P and 40 meters when using shot. The standard weapon ammunition included an 31 cartridge: 10 cartridges SP-D and SP-S, as well as 11 cartridges SP-P, which were placed in a special canvas pouch. In the design of all these munitions, measures were implemented aimed at ensuring the operability and preservation of their tightness even after a relatively long stay in a vacuum under low pressure.


The gun was actively tested as a means of hunting. With the help of smooth trunks it was possible to hunt small animals, such as a hare or a fox, as well as a huge number of birds - from partridges to black grouses and wood grouses. With the help of a rifled trunk, it was possible to shoot wild boars, mountain goats, saigas, gazelles, small elks with an animal weight up to 200 kg. At the same time, the SP-S signal cartridge turned out to be the most effective means of signaling by the parameters of visual observation at that point in time (when compared with all existing means).

Of course, if landing in the taiga, the TP-82 pistol would be a significant help for astronauts. The removable butt of the pistol, which also served as a machete, did an excellent job with its work. According to the head of cosmonauts training sessions Alexander Hermann, there were cases when a number of cosmonauts for two days of survival (training in the winter forest have such a duration) cut several cubic meters of wood to provide themselves with firewood and build shelters.

TP-82 pistol gave the impression of a durable, reliable and well-made product. Such elements as the holster, machete case, cartridge belt, had the minimum weight. The controls were comfortable, and the manipulations with them were logical and simple. The safety devices on the gun ensured safe handling of the weapon, including when the weapon fell or when the receiver unit was not completely locked. Experts noted a soft descent, a good balance of the model and a “snatch” handle. Shooting from it could be carried out with an attached butt-machete, and without it. Without attaching the butt, it was best to fire with shot-up or signal cartridges.


The TP-82 pistol was adopted in the 1986 year, and in the same year it flew into space for the first time. They were armed with Soviet cosmonauts from the joint Soviet-French crew. His release was discontinued at the end of the 1980's. Officially, for the reason that the manufactured pistols were enough, and their further release was impractical. However, according to the Tula gunsmiths, the lack of funding was to blame. According to various data, they managed to collect “X-ray” pistols from 30 to 100 during Tula’s production. Currently, everyone can see rare weapons in the artillery museum of St. Petersburg, the state arms museum of the city of Tula, and as part of the exposition of the memorial museum of cosmonautics in the Russian capital.

TC-82 performance characteristics:
Caliber: 2x12,5 + 1х5,45-mm.
Length - 360 mm, with a butt - 670 mm.
Barrel length - 300 mm.
Height - 150 mm, with a butt - 235 mm.
Curb weight - 1,6 kg.
Weight with butt-machete - 2,4 kg.

Information sources:
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/rus/tp-2-r.html
http://www.popmech.ru/blogs/post/5071-evolyutsiya-oruzhiya-tp-82-oruzhie-kosmonavta
http://www.worldweapon.info/tp-82
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%CF-82
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  1. Denis
    Denis 28 November 2013 07: 49
    11
    Workmanship is perfect, sure
    Here is the thing!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 November 2013 13: 19
      +5
      The weapon is very interesting, I agree, especially considering the insignificant amount of such things in the world. In the article, some points cut the ear:

      "The first of them was a fractional SP-D (created on the basis of a hunting caliber 32). 12,5x70-mm fractional cartridge"

      In general, a cartridge loaded with a shot is called "shot", not "fractional".

      "The brass-cased fractional cartridge was equivalent to the standard 20-gauge (15,9mm) # 3 shotgun cartridge used in 700mm long-barrel hunting rifles."

      It is not clear what the author in this case means by the word "equivalent"? In a standard 20-gauge cartridge, about 25g of shot, in a standard 32-gauge - 15g. How can they be equivalent? If you increase the amount of shot, then there is simply nowhere to pour gunpowder into the sleeve.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 28 November 2013 14: 35
        0
        20 g was placed in the shot cartridge. fractions, it’s just a 28-24 caliber charge, the cartridge had an indented ring not far from the cartridge case barrel. Strange, but in the first publications about the pistol it was said about the standard hunting cartridge 5.6x39, which has a certain choice of ammunition for defeating different types of game.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 28 November 2013 16: 04
          0
          Quote: alex-cn
          20 g was placed in the shot cartridge. fractions, it’s just a 28-24 caliber charge, the cartridge had an indented ring not far from the cartridge case barrel.

          Suppose, but due to the mass of the projectile and the sharpness of the battle, it cannot be the equivalent of a shot from a 20-caliber hunting rifle.
  2. makarov
    makarov 28 November 2013 08: 25
    11
    "... According to the information that is in the public domain, non-automatic pistols TP-82 were part of the wearable emergency stock of Soviet and then Russian spacecraft until 2007. By this time, the storage period of the ammunition for weapons that had been released had expired. back in the USSR ... "

    Not quite complete author’s conclusion. Making new ammunition is not a problem. Here the reason lies elsewhere. Due to the fact that the time spent by a person in space has significantly increased, naturally because of the physiological features of returning to Earth, muscle and muscle tissue became so atrophied that the astronaut was not able to use the product for its intended purpose. Well, the main thing is that the positioning and tracking of the descent vehicle has significantly improved. That weapon was considered unnecessary.
  3. svskor80
    svskor80 28 November 2013 08: 42
    0
    It was interesting to read about such a special gun, before information was not found.
    1. makarov
      makarov 28 November 2013 09: 42
      0
      originally not written about more than 10 years ago
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 28 November 2013 14: 37
        +1
        originally written about him somewhere in the mid-80s
  4. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 28 November 2013 08: 54
    +4
    actually truncated trunks smile
    And since it’s not artisanal, it’s much cooler than just trimming the trunks and butt
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 November 2013 13: 05
      0
      Quote: abrakadabre
      actually truncated trunks
      And since it’s not artisanal, it’s much cooler than just trimming the trunks and butt

      I would like to see what trunks and saw logs will be on my drilling.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 28 November 2013 14: 40
        0
        Some are driving trophy raids on cruisers, maybe there’s such a drilling wassat
        1. Astrey
          Astrey 28 November 2013 18: 00
          0
          I would like to see such weapons on sale in hunting stores.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 29 November 2013 10: 45
            0
            In this case, it will be convenient for hidden wearing. Not quite up to date on this subject, but aren't cut-offs prohibited precisely by the combination of great lethal force and the possibility of hidden wearing? Who in the know, clarify?
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 29 November 2013 11: 06
              0
              Quote: abrakadabre
              Is it not forbidden to trim precisely by combining great lethal force and the possibility of hidden wearing? Who in the know, clarify?

              Civilian weapons should not be less than 80cm long, if at the same time the possibility of a shot remains. Roughly speaking, it can also be folded to a shorter length, only when it should be impossible to shoot from it. And yet, the length of the receiver with the barrel can not be less than 50cm.
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 29 November 2013 11: 27
                0
                Exactly. I mean the same thing.
                And also, to the heap, there are nuances about rifled weapons (here, after all, 1 rifled barrel), and the possibility of equipping a cartridge with a non-standard hitch for the gun barrel. The same jacquin with a slightly increased powder charge. And he will bring down even a moose. Is that the accuracy is not the same and the danger of rupture of the trunk.
  5. makst83
    makst83 28 November 2013 09: 23
    +4
    "Melee space weapons. As long as they do not have all-important blasters and annihilators, so the advanced forces of the Earth are content with the three-barreled TP-82. And where to go? What if a representative of democratic Russia is suddenly brought to some Mars and no positive contact is possible?" What to do? A fist fight in a spacesuit is not very convenient, is it? That's when the TP-82 with a machete hidden in the butt will come in handy. One or two selenites will take off their heads equipped with large brains, but unfriendly - others will respect them. , and since "TP-82" is on the belly, then it can be attributed to a piece of clothing.

    Also "TP-82" is in service with some pilots. Those, however, do not prepare to fly to other people's moons, and they are equally far from Ganymede and Alpha Ophiuchus, but nevertheless they can fall out of their flying machine not only in Le Bourget, but in areas of their native country that have not been mastered human. And again, scare the "flying saucers" on occasion. "Fyodor Berezin - Red Stars. hi
    1. avt
      avt 28 November 2013 10: 35
      +3
      Quote: makst83
      And again, "flying saucers" scare on occasion. "

      Yes, in general, "a bleed" is good for household needs, not only to scare, to go to the dacha there, it takes up a little space in the apartment, well, it will come in handy in the car since it is clearly not a trauma.laughing
      1. Walking
        Walking 28 November 2013 17: 01
        +1
        It could well be written as an additional hunting weapon
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 28 November 2013 09: 51
    +9
    Kostruktors thought with their heads, but not ... All provided for all sorts of situations.
  7. yan
    yan 28 November 2013 10: 16
    0
    Thank you for the information content of the article, and honestly did not know about such weapons
  8. Vasia kruger
    Vasia kruger 28 November 2013 10: 51
    0
    There is an inaccuracy in the article.


    At present, everyone can see rare weapons in the artillery museum of St. Petersburg, the state arms museum of the city of Tula and as part of the exposition of the memorial museum of cosmonautics in the Russian capital.


    In the Cosmonautics Museum, it’s not TP-82, but a model of two tubes and a Chinese plastic pistol. A photo of this shame on this site skipped.
    1. Bigfoot_Sev
      Bigfoot_Sev 28 November 2013 11: 16
      +3


      is that what? Well this is some kind of hellish craft.

      = ^ _ ^ =
  9. AK-47
    AK-47 28 November 2013 11: 10
    +5
    Alexei Leonov, together with Pavel Belyaev in 1965 for the first time made an emergency landing in the taiga. I had to spend the night in the forest of the Northern Urals. Helicopters could only fly over them and report that one was chopping wood and the other was putting them in a fire. Warm clothes and products were dropped from helicopters, but they could not get Leonov and Belyaev out of the taiga. The most dramatic situation was when hungry bears came out of the woods to the fire, and the astronauts did not have a serious opportunity to defend themselves from predators ... They shot into the air, only arousing their curiosity. Thanks to a happy accident, the astronauts were not injured then. Only a few days later, they managed to get to the Mi-4 helicopter along the ski track laid by the rescuers, then transferred from it to the heavier Mi-6 and reached Perm. ” An ordinary PM, which had been part of the astronaut’s emergency reserve since Yuri Gagarin’s flight, did not allow solving the problems of survival in extreme conditions.
    “All that could be done with the help of Makarov was to shoot himself,” Alexei Arkhipovich recalls that emergency landing with bitter irony.
    1. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 29 November 2013 23: 01
      0
      If the bear was hungry, he would grab the clumsy space accomplishments for a sweet soul, especially if a connecting rod. This comrade would not ask for a certificate, nor a personal file with a track record. Something the author here has confused about the time of year.
  10. Zubr
    Zubr 28 November 2013 12: 17
    +5
    Good review, I read about this weapon, the author PLUS! What is it, here at our DIAMOND stations the gun stood 23 mm, and worked in SPACE! Where there is a mattress. Thanks to all ! hi
  11. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 28 November 2013 13: 40
    +2
    this is what I understand the indoor melee gun! And if you shoot a bullet from the upper trunks, then there’s no equal at all laughing
  12. zub46
    zub46 28 November 2013 13: 54
    -2
    In my opinion, the weapon is bullshit. It is a sawn-off shotgun. The destructive capabilities of the 32-caliber shot cartridge are especially touching. Wasn't there room on board for a 16 gauge pump-action shotgun with 50 cm barrels and a folding stock? In terms of weight and overall length, the difference is not very big. But there would be a normal cartridge for all occasions. And "zhakan", and fraction, and "star". Dear cosmonaut Leonov is probably not a hunter if he liked this clumsy three-barreled gun - nothing more than a technical curiosity.
    1. Walking
      Walking 28 November 2013 17: 16
      +1
      It would be possible to put a normal shotgun in a disassembled form in the NAZ
      1. zub46
        zub46 28 November 2013 19: 17
        +1
        I can imagine how a hungry wolverine sniffs behind the wall of a tent from a parachute canopy, and the guys hurriedly stick small cartridges into their trunks with frozen fingers.
      2. mvg
        mvg 30 November 2013 01: 37
        +1
        Do you know the cost of delivering kg of cargo into orbit?
    2. m262
      m262 28 November 2013 20: 04
      +2
      Quote: zub46
      Is there really no room on board for a 16-gauge pump-action shotgun with 50 cm barrels and a folding stock?

      Of course, cosmonaut Leonov is not a hunter, and the cosmonauts are not engaged in commercial hunting, they only need to wait for the rescuers and scare the bear away, do not forget about the cost of delivering a kilogram of cargo into orbit for the disposable Proton launch vehicle is $ 1-136, you are a descent have you seen the apparatus? Where to put the pump there ???
    3. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 29 November 2013 22: 41
      +1
      In the design of the competitors, when designing these shooters, there was a drum-type shotgun with twin vertical barrels and a two-row drum, where the outer row of the chambers was six-shot 32 caliber and the bottom was six-shot 7,62 x 39, but the competitors won with the conclusion of the commission that the unit turned out to be voluminous, and there is little space in the ship and the corresponding severity. Although with space technology and metals, the product could be built a little heavier than fluffs - cartridges would weigh heavier.
  13. kirpich
    kirpich 28 November 2013 14: 03
    +3
    Quote: AK-47
    The most dramatic situation was when hungry bears came out of the woods to the fire, and the astronauts did not have a serious opportunity to defend themselves from predators ...


    So I see how in winter, in the northern Urals, crowds of hungry bears roam.
    1. DmitryK
      DmitryK 28 November 2013 14: 49
      +1
      Cheto finally it is not clear. Our Urals are not northern, but western, and bears generally sleep in winter
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 28 November 2013 18: 43
        +1
        Quote: DmitryK
        ... and the bears generally sleep in winter

        Quote: kirpich
        ... crowds of hungry bears roam.

        Ah yes Leonov!
        He is generally a fisherman, not a hunter, and fishermen, as you know, like to exaggerate a little. So I took hares for bears.
        1. Yuri Y.
          Yuri Y. 29 November 2013 00: 11
          +3
          Well, if a bear really came out, then they really were terribly lucky. The connecting rod (and they happen) is the only thing that is busy finding someone to gobble up.
  14. DmitryK
    DmitryK 28 November 2013 14: 45
    +5
    "a large number of different predatory animals that could attack people" - laughed heartily.
    Permyak.
    1. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 29 November 2013 22: 47
      0
      You have more camps than bears.
  15. Raphael_83
    Raphael_83 28 November 2013 16: 32
    0
    I could not read about the use of this unit in real conditions. But in fiction ...
    The Cossack looked around. From his little room, Grandfather appeared, outfitted for battle. In addition to the unusual “cannon” - a three-barreled TP-82 pistol, once designed for astronauts, a farewell gift from Leva Shatursky, he captured a bunch of flares.
    (A. Sviridov "Fighters. Torn Sky").
    Well, at one time in the good-quality reference book "That from which they shoot in the CIS" (1999) there was an article about this "three-headed" miracle. hi
  16. bevatec
    bevatec 28 November 2013 16: 33
    +1
    The first Russian spacecraft to include this pistol complex was the T-6 Union, which was launched into space in the summer of 1982. Further (slightly lower) the same author writes in the same article: TP-82 pistol Adopted in 1986 and the first year flew into space for the first time. The output of one or two is so big that they even couldn’t write off properly. This is also noticeable in many of the other mistakes noted above.
  17. LION
    LION 28 November 2013 17: 34
    0
    Etoges Schwartz pistol in "Red Heat"
  18. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 28 November 2013 18: 04
    -1
    the crap is complete and not the barrel. 5.45 why the heck have sticked. to someone with such a small caliber. And the 32 smooth barrel is also point blank only. Better than the stew, a couple of cans would be added to the n.a.
    1. zub46
      zub46 28 November 2013 19: 21
      0
      Probably, "Greenpeace officers" demanded to make such a non-lethal weapon. Pugach. It would be better if "TT-Schnick" was given to the guys.
      1. alexey garbuz
        alexey garbuz 29 November 2013 22: 52
        0
        Maresyev filled up a bear with five rounds of ammunition - how much is needed for two bears! And if their platoon?
    2. bistrov.
      bistrov. 28 November 2013 21: 50
      +1
      Have you ever been to a winter Russian forest?
      1. alexey garbuz
        alexey garbuz 30 November 2013 22: 36
        0
        If I rebuked me, the Garinsky district of the Sverdlovsk region was somehow not considered the forest-steppe of Russia.
    3. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 29 November 2013 10: 58
      +2
      full crap and not the trunk. 5.45 why the heck stick. on anyone with such a small caliber.
      You inattentively read an article where it is written in black and white:
      The bullet cartridge was designated as SP-P. It included 5,45x40 mm semi-shell bullet with a steel core and a special hole in the nose to increase the expansive effect. The breadth of defeat with the help of such a cartridge was 8-10 times higher than the performance of a bullet of an automatic cartridge 7N6 of 5,45 mm caliber.

      The cartridge is comparable to the 5.45 machine gun in general, and even more so with the expansive bullet. If such a flower blossoms in the victim’s body, then it will do a lot of stuffing in the wound channel. Or do you think you need to take RPGs and a sniper with a GS-gun shell with you? Or, in general, to build a descent vehicle around an aircraft rapid-fire gun, like an American attack aircraft. Then it will be possible to firewood if anything with a cannon.
    4. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 29 November 2013 22: 50
      0
      You are mistaken, I have a "deer" of 32 caliber, vertical, lower-paradox, so a bullet from a hundred meters into the mailbox box of a bullet. Fractions, of course, are not enough, but I use the third number of black powder.
  19. xomaNN
    xomaNN 28 November 2013 18: 08
    0
    It pleases how, after an almost verbal request from cosmonaut Leonov, the process began winked And as some era of stagnation does not swear, the order was implemented in the form of a truly convenient, multifunctional, specific weapon. And now I wonder if they fly unarmed into space?
  20. bistrov.
    bistrov. 28 November 2013 21: 46
    0
    What else could you expect? It was the COUNTRY! Even in the little things! And that's it.
  21. Goblin
    Goblin 28 November 2013 22: 39
    +5
    Well, we know how to make fun, it can be seen. Well done. And the cartridge is weak for them, and give the pump to the descent vehicle ... You google the dimensions of the descent "ball", be surprised how little space there is: even a disassembled pump is an unattainable luxury. Or have you forgotten how the cosmonauts died because they squeezed three into a two-seater descent vehicle and abandoned spacesuits?
    So I imagine the picture: the director gives the chief designer of TOZ a task to choose a more powerful car for the valiant Soviet cosmonauts. No problem! a pump-action with a 23 mm barrel or even a four is born. But there is nowhere to put it, and the lead in the cartridges weighs so much that the equipment for a few lamas of Soviet rubles will remain on the ground. We reduce it to 12 or 16 gauge, cut the barrel in half - still a lot, the chief rocket officer stomps his feet. And also an ax with a saw must be stuck in. Reducing, decreasing, adjusting, decreasing ... So we got a compromise solution: the smallest shot cartridge that can only be attached, plus a small-sized thread (and old poachers will say that this small weapon is not so childish), a removable butt -machete and everything is light and compact. Everyone is happy, except for the commentators on Topvar. The shot cartridge allows you to shoot up the racket and get the partridge for dinner, the small louse beats both the hare and the capercaillie, as well as the two-legged predator, the bear is not always the most terrible animal, honestly. And with crooked hands and from a pump-action or double-barreled gun, you can not hit anywhere, but here it is quite a long barrel, in combination with the butt, you can aim at a hundred for sure. For example, AKSu is not much longer - but it shoots decently, or, for example, TT: there is no comparison at all: a pistol without a butt is not a hunting weapon even once.
    I held this toy in my hands, though without a butt. The workmanship is extraordinary. Everything is adjusted a pretty penny, licked, well-groomed. A gun failure in the death taiga is similar to a factory or designer. That's just another matter: I'm afraid it will be impossible to make the same now. Stamp ammunition is not a problem, there are no people left ...
    1. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 30 November 2013 22: 41
      0
      You are absolutely right - there is not enough space in the descent capsule, but if you take into account the scientific and military material, which must be protected not only from partridges if something happens, then you would have to equip the astronauts more adequately than the PM or the old times Makhno.
  22. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks April 14 2014 10: 17
    0
    I wonder how the 5,45 * 40 cartridge can be used to shoot ungulates weighing up to 200 kg. It is rather weak, like, a cartridge.
  23. CBRE FB
    CBRE FB 6 June 2020 23: 48
    0
    Quote: Goblin
    You google the dimensions of the "ball" to be launched, you will be surprised how little space there is: even a disassembled pump is an unattainable luxury.
    So I imagine a picture: the director of the TOZ chief designer is given the task of picking up a more powerful car for the valiant Soviet cosmonauts. Reduce to 12 or 16 gauge, sawing the barrel in half - it’s still a lot, the main missile is stomping his feet. And also an ax with a saw must be slipped. Reduce, reduce, customize, reduce ...

    If it were so critical, then they removed the second smooth trunk - in reality, he doesn’t need it there.
  24. CBRE FB
    CBRE FB 6 June 2020 23: 51
    0
    Quote: carbine sks
    I wonder how the 5,45 * 40 cartridge can be used to shoot ungulates weighing up to 200 kg. It is rather weak, like, a cartridge.

    In Bosko - fine.
    And further 25m from this edge you still will not get.