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MLRS 9K51 "Grad" - the Soviet jet salvo system caliber 122 mm. Designed to defeat manpower, unarmored and lightly armored targets of the enemy, the solution of other tasks in various conditions.
What kind of hell is this machine and what firepower does it have? Let's see.

Adopted in 1963 year. It is a 40-receiver installation on the chassis of the car "Ural-375D".

The 122-mm 9K51 “Grad” rocket launcher system is designed to destroy manpower, lightly armored and unarmored vehicles, artillery and mortar batteries, command posts and other targets in the nearest tactical depth.

Main producer: Russia. Composition: combat vehicle (BM), missiles (PC). Method of loading BM - manual.

The main types of ammunition are: high-explosive projectile; 9M; part of 21М9К for remote statement of anti-tank mines. It is also possible to shoot 28M9 chemical shells, 22 kg rocket smoke projectiles at a distance of up to 9 km, as well as lighting projectiles illuminating a circle with a diameter of 519 km from a height of 1-7 m for 3 seconds. High dynamic qualities and maneuverability make it possible to effectively use the Grad complex in conjunction with armored vehicles both on the march and at the front positions during combat operations.

Comments

[viktor_ui]

beautiful museum exhibit

[kesa1111]

There was still Prima. It still has export potential.
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/prima/prima.shtml

[Joker]

viktor_ui,
- what nonsense?

For "work on areas" that's what you need.

[rumpeljschtizhe]

He will fight for another 40 years as Kalashnikov

[viktor_ui]

The joker is about nonsense ... if you put modern optics on the three-line, you get a very good type of sniper rifle ..., we will dream further, and if you pull on a tank tank miracle cape, put 10 grenade launchers with RPG-7 in the trailer (after all is he still able to do something), then at the exit we get a modern articulated tank ??? And you can put on chain mail, and under it a Kevlar T-shirt and assume that now you have gadgets like Felin ???
You know what I mean? This all smelled of mothballs for a long time ... and even eat it in our army (but at the same time a bunch of modern weapons were put under the knife, getting high, because high-class specialists are needed to use it). For work on areas, Hurricanes are good considering their timely modernization. After all, you can roll out the "Katyusha" - it will not be bad for the squares
I hope that the meaning of my joke to the author of the article will reach you.
rumpeljschtizhe - you can run with Kalash for at least 1000 years, but I’d better look at the runners through the crosshairs of the screen at any time of the day ...
In, an example!
After all, we all want to click on a computer with a cool and sophisticated mouse, because on it even the scrolling wheel has become history (I don’t have it, but have a sensor), and so - a mechanical mouse and a salvo system of the 60s has a story for me (it can work in principle, I don’t argue, but I don’t already have a Com port, and based on this, this mouse-technician should be in the MUSEUM.

[svvaulsh]

And here again! EMP caused by an uncontrolled chain reaction, the screen then went blank! And then rumpeljschtizhe with AK-47. Where will you click? (Pants do not count!)

[Raven1972]

Exactly ... Smiled ...

[Raven1972]

And what about the firing range? A hurricane and a tornado is a long-range MLRS, sort of ..... And spending a 280mm missile on something that can be destroyed with a smaller caliber is about the same as beating sparrows with ICBMs ....

[APASUS]

viktor_ui
Sitting at the console of a cool gadget, an American soldier did not achieve the long-awaited victory in Afghanistan. Iraq But he is opposed by moth-eaten weapons, our Kalash, RPG-7.
The war at the computer’s console is good when the army of another state is in front of you. But there is no army in Iraq, it has fled!
And in Vietnam, Americans dug holes and lured them there, the bottom of the holes consisted of pegs. At that time, the Vietnamese army was like a collective farm!
All your gadgets are good when every earthling in the ass will have a gadget, it will be easier to understand their own or a stranger! I am not against modern weapons, but there are eternal values, unquestioned authorities of weapons. Not for nothing the RPG-7 was in the list of weapons that are dangerous for the American army

[viktor_ui]

APASUS - but you didn’t understand the essence of the example with the mouse ... I explain ... the ability to control sophisticated equipment implies the presence of brains (or the level of training corresponding to it !!! Well, it’s not so clear the guys !!! And they started to just keep us farther from technical progress !!! IS IT CLEAR ???
In our army should be the MOST !!! And let the pendosy come to Ngam to study, and not we to them! UNDERSTANDABLY ?

[APASUS]

viktor_ui
That's always the case!
Yes, I do not mind gadgets! American weapons are three generations ahead and when an ax flies in the ass, thinking stops !!!!
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF WEAPONS MANUFACTURING CAN BE DESIGNATED TO THREE VALUES - FAILURE UNDER ANY CONDITIONS, UNIFICATION, CARTRIDGE (ANY SUITABLE CARTRIDGE) AND EASY TO USE (CAN'T RESOLVE (RESET)
You live in the form of illusions, he killed! When a bullet hits the head, the SOLDIER DOES NOT DIE ................ HE MAY BECOME YOUR BRAINS TO SEARCH IN THE FLIGHT, AND THE STANDS IN THE FIELD SUCH THAT .............................. THE CENTURY DOES NOT HEAR THIS
CHILDREN OF A MODERN SOCIETY THINK THAT THE VICTORY ARE FORKED BY ROBOTS AND GENERALS !!! YOU JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS IS A WAR

[Joker]

APASUS,
for this installation (Grad) it’s quite enough to add electronic control and calculation of the ballistics, while preserving the manual of course, so it's too early to enter the museum. Why change the samples that currently have good data while wasting a budget? This money can be spent on something more important.

And about the high-tech army of the United States, see vidyuha, but not the reports - for the window dressing, but personal, I didn’t see them with the high-tech M-16s there, for some reason everyone walks with old Kalash, they’re probably not smart people they didn’t win one war (we don’t take economic pressure).

Of course, a new technique is needed, but there is a sample that is not yet outdated and replacing them with new ones is a waste of the budget,

A three-ruler with competent optics is a good rifle, with proper dexterity of the rate of fire you can achieve a type like the SVD.

The Grady and Hurricane systems have different specialties, which is better than SVD or GSh-18? So with systems like that.

[viktor_ui]

APASUS - still did not understand what I was talking about ... sorry. Hooked up the topic. Although it was interesting In general, any type of weapon is divided into only 2 subtypes, special and universal - in real life, they would communicate well on this topic.

[APASUS]

Joker
It is enough to simply install "smart missiles" on the Grad installation. This option will be cheaper in terms of costs and does not require trained personnel! Although there are so many rams now that I doubt that they will be able to simply fill a projectile into the barrel. Although this option may require UAV illumination.
viktor_ui
In fact, I love criticism, but why I gave up so quickly.
I just can’t imagine the M 134 Minigun 7,62 mm caliber in the Afghan desert when it has a damaged electric motor .. and so on. These weapons require very good service and personnel. At the moment, the super modern weapons used in Afghanistan did not lead to the victory of the American armies. Although the Americans have not comparable losses, but they lose. Not a gadget is everything! Although the thing is inherently useful!
There is a video on YouTube where a kid walking between cars drops a backpack on the roof of an American armored personnel carrier with explosives.
Not one gadget will not calculate this option !!!! Not one BTL will not be able to stop this kind of emission !!!!
At this stage of armed conflict - the reliability of weapons in any conditions and ease of maintenance, with ammunition strong enough and illiterate personnel, is perhaps the most important factor.
Maybe the gadget does not solve everything? The development of weapons has not been canceled !!

[Joker]

APASUS,
yes smart shell is a topic, and there are two options
- the aforementioned backlight (the target is illuminated by a laser beam)
- entering data into a smart rocket in advance.

[viktor_ui]

Joker - and yes there is an English "Boer" - a shaggy year old - 5 or 7 people to take off breaks ..., and if you plant from a "squeak" - then the picture of the hit will be more terrible ... In modern war, the one who then he sees and hears, and we have a complete ass with this

APASUS is a gadget in general, it is rather a fashionable gadget and compare it with the finished one or another of those. I would not become a military system. I have long had no illusions about the army, I myself served in the second half of the 80s and at one time I did not get out of the training ground and compare that level of training and technical equipment of the regiment of that time and the self-sufficient modern team of maestro Perdyukov, I can evaluate it fairly objectively (deployed we were 40 km from the Chinese). Well, so - we would have fucked up this brigade and it doesn’t make me happy, because I believe that after almost 25 years, the level of efficiency should have increased significantly. And so that there would be no unnecessary doubts, I served in FORCES, where few wanted to get.

[Raven1972]

Victor, Victor .... A small nuclear woman in orbit - and they went blind and deaf ... Then, then, a "drill" of a shaggy year will be needed ... We don’t get used to such conditions, but they don’t have a mouse ... Mice suddenly don’t click, UAVs fell due to lack of control, there is no one to direct the aircraft (AWACSAM in this situation will also get it) ... And what can they then?
As for the decline in the combat effectiveness of our army, I completely agree ..... Another year of stool reforms and PPC ....

[Joker]

viktor_ui,
a burka cloak, and the same PPS-43 in urban combat is a very good weapon, like PPSh (it’s too heavy, IMHO).

Anyone who sees and hears further agrees, but you don’t even need to upgrade the equipment, give a ballistic calculator with command control to each Grad installation, and the efficiency will increase significantly.

Regarding the decline in combat effectiveness of the current army, I agree by 200%.

[CARTRIDGE]

give to each installation of Grad a ballistic calculator can be command-controlled, and the efficiency will increase significantly, which is exactly what I wanted to write

[CARTRIDGE]

And yet. I am more worried about the fact that our military-industrial complex is not lagging behind in the field of high-precision weapons, and the fact that we are signing agreements on strategic offensive arms that are not beneficial for us, without yao we will be crushed by superiority in missiles with modern electronic filling. "now they would be modernized to the 5th or 6th generation and would not suffer with the" mace ", otherwise the boats were cut and there is nothing to replace them with!

[PSih2097]

The question is why it was necessary to let the "sharks" go under the knife now they would be modernized to the 5th or 6th generation and would not suffer with the "mace", otherwise the boats were cut and there is nothing to replace them with!

Missiles for them were made on southerly mash in Ukraine ...

[screw cutter]

then Viktor_ui, all your fashionable gadgets (gadgets) in a few seconds turn into a bunch of scrap metal, in case of serious conflict, the GPS navigation satellite group is destroyed first of all, and for NATO, that's all, remember, for example, night vision devices in Iraq, against the background of a red-hot sand day is of no use, the technology stels themselves disguised themselves, and the Russian chain mail not only sees the stealth but also does not radiate anything. PS I am not against modernization, but in the west the coolness of the weapon is determined by its price and appearance. And Russian weapons It has always been an example of reliability and ease of use, and you do not have to carry carts with maintenance personnel (by the way, maintenance personnel are an easy target).

[kesa1111]

There was still Prima. She still has export potential.
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/prima/prima.shtml