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Data on the attitude of Russians to the Russian army and the Minister of Defense

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The other day, the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center decided to ask the citizens of Russia how they (that is, we) relate to the modern Russian army, the current defense minister and his work. The survey was able to participate 1600 people from 42 regions of the country. Despite the fact that the number of respondents from the total number of Russians is significantly less than one percent, the authors and implementers of the survey idea declare the accuracy of the results obtained. According to experts VTsIOM, the error of the conducted sociological research is no more than 3,4%.


Now it's time to turn directly to the questions asked by people and their answers to these questions.

1 Question: How would you rate the current state of the Russian army?

For the first time ever history 20% of these polls rated the condition of the Russian army as good, 53% recognized the condition as average, and 2% as very good. The bad and very bad state of RA was called 16% and 2%, respectively. 7% percent of respondents did not decide.

It turns out that a positive assessment of the state of the Russian army, according to the results presented by VTsIOM, is ready to put 22% of Russians, and negative - 18% (we omit the average estimates). The values ​​are approximately equal, if we take into account the error mentioned by VTsIOM in 3,4%.

If we compare the results of the 2013 survey of the year with the results of surveys conducted in the past years, then it is worth noting that the assessments of the state of the Russian army by the people have improved significantly. For example, in 1998, only 1% of respondents called the condition of the army good, but 81% called bad and very bad. In the 2011 year, 13% scored positively, and almost 30% scored negatively.

Data on the attitude of Russians to the Russian army and the Minister of Defense

Assessment of the state of the Russian army by the public as a percentage (based on VTsIOM)


2 Question: In your opinion, should military service and compulsory military service be maintained for young men of military age in the future or not?

The overall percentage of those who want to keep the "delay" was 55%, and the total percentage of those who spoke in favor of refusing universal military service in Russia was 38%, with 7% undecided with the answer. For comparison, in the 1998 year, the results were almost the opposite - 55% for the contract army, 35% for the preservation of conscription service. Approximately equal number of supporters of the idea of ​​transitioning exclusively to a professional army and adherents of preserving the draft service (taking statistical error into account) were recorded in the 2006 year (49% and 45%, respectively).


Percentage of respondents who spoke on the issue of the maintenance of conscription service in the Russian army and the transition of the army to a contract basis (according to VTsIOM)


VTsIOM notes that the largest number of people who spoke in favor of canceling recruitment into the Russian army with a simultaneous transition to the 100% contractual basis corresponded to representatives of the younger generation.

The remaining questions VTsIOM dedicated to the current head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu.

3 Question: Rate on a 5-scale, where 1 is very bad, and 5 is great, how well Sergei Shoigu copes with his duties as defense minister.

The result is the following: 3,86 points. As they say teachers: goes "well." However, it should be noted that Sergei Shoigu’s decline in the kind of “performance” compared to, for example, with September 2013. Then the respondents were asked the same question, and the average rating was 4,28, that is, a considerable percentage of those who answered the questions put the “top five” to the current minister. But it is impossible not to draw attention to the fact that in February of the current year Shoigu's “rating” was 3,77 on a five-point scale. That is, over the past period, the growth of "performance", according to public opinion, still took place.

It is noteworthy that at the last stage of work in the Ministry of Defense, the “academic performance” of Anatoly Serdyukov (according to the VTsIOM survey results) amounted to only 3,07 points.

4 Question: What feelings do you have the Minister of Defense first of all (could you give 2 an answer, for example: “it causes trust and respect”, or “it causes antipathy and skepticism”)?

As it turned out, Sergey Shoigu evokes a feeling of indifference in 9%, in 15% sympathy, in 25% confidence, in 28% hope. About 46% of respondents said they respect Shoigu. 2% said they were disappointed and disliked.
If you go back to the results of such a poll, which the same VTsIOM conducted in relation to Anatoly Serdyukov in 2011, then Anatoly Eduardovich was respected by 37% of Russians less than Sergey Shoigu is respected today. 6% of Russians trusted Serdyukov as much as 10% hoped for him (it looks like we know the names of these people ...) 38 percent of the Serdyuk respondents were indifferent ...

5 Question: Sergei Shoigu has been the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation for a year now. Please name the most significant of his achievements, successes in this position and the most serious failures. (It was possible to give one or two answers).

The significant accomplishments of the respondents attributed the increased military exercises (7%) and the quote “bringing order to the army” (also 7%), the beginning of the arrival of new weapons (5%). It is noteworthy that the abolition of footcloths as the main positive of the work of Minister Shoigu was noted by 2% of respondents. 15% stated that there had been no achievements in Shoigu’s work during the past period of this person’s tenure.

Shoigu's failures were able to recall all 2% of people surveyed by the VTsIOM staff. The following were mentioned as failures of the minister: “I could not prevent emergencies” (1%), “there is no contract army” (1%). 52% stated that there were no failures in the work of Shoigu in the position of the Minister of Defense.

So, if we sum up the results of such a poll, we find that lately a greater number of Russians have begun to express positive assessments of the state of the Russian army and the work of the minister of defense. However, there is a considerable percentage of those who expect Minister Shoigu to expect more from the development of the army and activities in this field.

The increased positive attitude of the public towards the Russian army, its state and the minister of defense may be connected to a greater degree not even with the real steps of Sergei Shoigu himself at his post, but with what steps of his predecessor he conducts his work. At the same time, it can be said that even today Shoigu himself acts as a hostage of the attitude of the highest state authorities to the former defense minister. If the SC does not change the status of Anatoly Serdyukov, or if the court issues an acquittal verdict in the case of Oboronservis against the main defendants, then indirectly this could hurt Shoigu’s ratings. And in order that such “grazing” does not turn out to be too significant, the current minister just needs to actively work for the benefit of the Russian army. There will be such a work - people will definitely appreciate it. There will be a talk room or something good personal PR - here and with public assessments it will be more and more difficult ...
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  1. makarov
    makarov 28 November 2013 07: 30
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    The work is done necessary and relevant. But it would not be bad to conduct a similar survey of citizens according to Serdyukov, and then publish it completely. For the AUTHORITIES to see the colossal nature of theft, and to understand the attitude of citizens towards THIES FROM AUTHORITY. And from there to the POWER itself.
    1. Denis
      Denis 28 November 2013 07: 37
      14
      Quote: makarov
      questioning of citizens according to Serdyukov
      With a mandatory clause HANG
      The opinion of citizens is clear, will they hold it?
      And the current one started quite well
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 28 November 2013 15: 15
        0
        People should be asked what people can answer. Quite right questions were raised that were of serious importance for the work of the state apparatus.
        If you start asking about the guilt of individual people ... Give the specialists half a million rubles, and in a couple of months it turns out that the main embezzler and destroyer of the country is you. It will be so cheap because you are not a socially significant figure and not an oligarch - you cannot effectively defend yourself. Crush these more expensive, but also quite possible.
        You can not require a person to fulfill an order if this order is physically impossible. It is impossible, vile and dishonest, to demand from a mass of people to take out an OBJECTIVE opinion about the guilt of this or that person. Even pros cannot bear it, because even pros must first have access to an array of very specific information. Is such information available to us? Opinions are nothing more than opinions.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 28 November 2013 08: 21
      +6
      Better yet, conduct a separate survey of citizens in the field of defense. That is, not among the "cooks" and "shoemakers" who are completely unaware, but among people who understand what, where and how. By questioning, to touch upon both the army at all levels, and the defense industry, specialized research institutes and universities.
      And according to Serdyukov too.
      1. AVV
        AVV 28 November 2013 16: 22
        +1
        Serdyukov is not Serdyuchka, the country and the Army did significant harm, there can be no question of unintentional harm, unconscious, everything collapsed and plundered systematically and deliberately, and when the question of responsibility really arose, courageously hid behind DAM ami !!!
    3. winkiller
      winkiller 28 November 2013 09: 59
      +2
      I will support, although I am not a supporter, the influence of both politicians and popular opinion on judicial proceedings, BUT in this case, even with 100% innocence (hypothetically) for the fact that this was allowed by Serdkov, he must be shot as a traitor to his homeland.
      1. Valkyrie
        Valkyrie 28 November 2013 10: 23
        +4
        How to shoot at 100% innocence? In this case, it is necessary to shoot the court, which proved 100% innocence, if the guilt is obvious.
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 28 November 2013 12: 41
          +1
          A criminal case has been initiated against Anatoly Serdyukov.
          The main military investigative department of the Investigative Committee of Russia in relation to the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov opened a criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 Art. 293 of the Criminal Code (negligence).


          Obviously, this is exactly the "handout" to the people about which they wrote in the media. But it still needs to be proved ... And there it is no longer for billions of dollars, but for damage worth more than 56 million rubles! am
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 28 November 2013 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Serg 122
            A criminal case has been instituted against Anatoly Serdyukov. The Chief Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia has opened a criminal case against the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 of Art. 293 of the Criminal Code (negligence)

            The article, for stools, is not serious yet. But ... with what it is necessary to begin. In any case, at least some hope has arisen that the twists of the article will show.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 28 November 2013 14: 41
              +2
              Strange I thought The Darkest would leave the heart for the election. Even early. Are you training?
              1. d_trader
                d_trader 28 November 2013 19: 56
                0
                It was rumored that after the Olympics they would unleash things to the fullest, but something started earlier, it seems that the plans changed
          2. alone
            alone 28 November 2013 20: 45
            +1
            for negligence do not put. Maximum suspended sentence, even I do not believe it.
    4. timer
      timer 28 November 2013 22: 11
      0
      I support koment.
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 28 November 2013 07: 49
    +1
    Let me rephrase: The mouth of the people says the truthor The voice of the people is the voice of God. hi
    1. alone
      alone 28 November 2013 20: 46
      +1
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      The mouth of the people says the true voice of the people, the voice of God.



      just a sweet dream called utopia !! yes
  3. samoletil18
    samoletil18 28 November 2013 08: 04
    +5
    It seems that the survey is necessary and correct. But, there is one BUT. Even if you ask: what do you like turd or chocolate better? There will be a humorist, a pervert, a person with a bad mood, etc. How to calculate the margin of error? On the other hand, the fact that the opinion of the majority coincided with mine is encouraging. And who is "turd" and who is "chocolate", I hope everyone understood.
  4. theadenter
    theadenter 28 November 2013 08: 09
    +1
    "Good" is not very good, because in this case there is almost nowhere to improve. Let the grade be "average" and then improve forward. good
    1. dmitry21
      dmitry21 28 November 2013 09: 27
      -1
      best the enemy of the good?
  5. patriot2
    patriot2 28 November 2013 08: 21
    +4
    The opinion of citizens is asked before the elections, and then they are held. But you can use this opinion in different ways - depending on what goals are set. The figure of Shoigu does not compare with the furniture maker - these are different levels of managers. Therefore, their results are different. There is a good saying: one person can be deceived indefinitely, and the people - only for some time. Maybe this time is near.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 28 November 2013 10: 25
      +1
      The end of time allowing the people to deceive him.
    2. Fin
      Fin 28 November 2013 10: 26
      +4
      Quote: patriot2
      Shoigu does not compare with the furniture maker - these are different levels of managers. Therefore, their results are different.

      I agree with you. Serdyuk had one task - to reduce, enlarge, sell off the excess. He couldn’t think strategically, in order to strengthen the country's defense capability, put the buy-sell level in your pocket.
      Shoigu is only a year old, but there are positive changes. One regiment - one airfield, the restoration of military education, and most importantly, relations with the military-industrial complex were established, new equipment went into the army for all types of weapons. There are, of course, also incomprehensible solutions: again it changes its shape, footcloths, badges, brooches ...., but these are trifles. Let it play - these are petty whims. Score 4 ++, look further.
  6. Narrator.tales
    Narrator.tales 28 November 2013 08: 26
    +1
    probably polls were conducted in people after 30
  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 November 2013 09: 14
    +5
    Russia and the Army are a single organism. Russia’s bad army is bad. There’s nothing to brag about yet (there are a lot of problems), but the positive trend is on the face .. (this is clear even without surveys) As they say Russia (Army) is focusing ..
  8. dmitry21
    dmitry21 28 November 2013 09: 17
    +4
    about conscription and duty - it's not like that!
    not duty-duty - only duty! any man-man-man should want and be able to protect his own: parents, family, home, village, city, country, of course!
    and, thanks to Sergei Shoigu for starting the transformation of the army from a scarecrow for the male population of the Russian Federation, only a laundry for "washing" money (this has been the case at all times and in all states - to cash in on supplying the army is the best income), and ridicule for "probable opponents" in the embryo of the formation system of the army, and hence the state, to which it is better not to approach with the proposal "to measure yourself with pips" - everyone will be torn away! )))
    ... contractors, that is, professionals, are needed - machine commanders, sergeants, BC operators - those who will be the backbone of the interaction between the units of the initial unit-platoon, support of officers, to train, put together, form soldiers ...
    but it is imperative that we leave the opportunity and encouragement of the desire to serve our people to everyone who has such an opportunity. in this way not so much pragmatic, topical things are formed as the spirit of unity, responsibility - I still remember the feeling, cat. never in my life ever experienced when I was allowed to hold the banner of our unit in my hands ...
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 28 November 2013 14: 03
      0
      Quote: dmitry21
      ... it is imperative that we leave the opportunity and encouragement of the desire to serve our people to everyone who has such an opportunity.
      Those who claimed that Russia needs a professional army -
      Quote: dmitry21
      contract workers, i.e. professionals

      pursued vile, hidden goals. Mm needed an army of mercenaries (small, mobile and "terribly" combat-ready) not to defend the Fatherland, but to protect their own capital and suppress the discontent of the robbed people. BAB: "We will make the army serve our capital ...". For this purpose, denying the obvious - the large length of borders, the complexity of external threats and the impossibility of maintaining the necessary number of contract soldiers by the country, there was a manipulation of public consciousness: "A professional is a contract soldier." A professional is a specialist whose special activity is highly efficient. And here we are talking about full efficiency, i.e. about all its aspects. Proceeding from this, the Soviet officer, soldier, provided that combat training was carried out with him at the required level, were professionals in their field, at least not worse than today's contract workers. In addition, a purely contract army will not be able to provide the composition of the mobilization reserve required for large-scale wars. These are all obvious things and it is a pity that they reach so tightly - Shoigu's “crocodiles” still “fly low”.
  9. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 28 November 2013 09: 21
    +3
    I don’t think I can’t do without urgency, during the war, reservists are the fastest replacement for retired soldiers! As for the army, it is always good, but only commanders are strikes (including ministers), but among the l / s the litter comes across!
  10. ZU-23
    ZU-23 28 November 2013 09: 25
    +4
    Yes, now military service is generally magical, I’ve gone recovering for a year, you want to stay, you are always welcome, the prospects for future career growth are all the more.
  11. bevatec
    bevatec 28 November 2013 09: 50
    -2
    DO YOU THINK WHETHER OUR ARMY IS CAPABLE NOW TO PROTECT RUSSIA IN THE EVENT OF A REAL MILITARY THREAT FROM OTHER COUNTRIES? This question was asked to the Russians by another center for the study of public opinion, the Levada Center. "Definitely yes / rather yes" answered by years: 2000-60% , 2002-56,2004-60,2006-62,2008-73,2009-73,2010-63,2011-59,2012-60,2
    013-57. Taking into account the declared error, there is no particular growth, and analyzing the given percentages and years, there is no special logic. Rather, the error is much higher and you should not particularly trust the increase-fall of 10-15%, as well as in general opinion polls. VTsIOM or Levada Center: who is bought by whom and who works for whom. Excerpts from an interview with VTsIOM director Vvleriy Fedorov on 21.8.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX: “Our main customers are the Kremlin and United Russia. As customers, they have rights to the results of our research There is always a confidentiality clause in every agreement. Therefore, of course, we publish only what the research client is allowed to make public. "Next:" Do you have foreign funding?

    We have a "daughter" - the Foundation for the Promotion of the Study of Public Opinion, so it is engaged in all our commercial projects. OJSC cannot do this. We receive grants, including from foreign funds, but few. Abroad, we are perceived as a government agency, and, of course, ceteris paribus they will be more willing to give money to the Levada Center. Incidentally, we also received a warning from the prosecutor’s office, like Levada Center, for foreign money. Just few people are aware of this.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 28 November 2013 10: 37
      0
      I think that precisely professional top military officers can answer these questions. They have all the exact data. The people may not know or understand many things. To this end, apparently, such opinion polls are conducted so that people mislead themselves.
  12. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 28 November 2013 09: 55
    +3
    I don’t really know whether or not to rejoice:The main military investigative department of the Investigative Committee of Russia in relation to the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov opened a criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 Art. 293 of the Criminal Code (negligence).

    see: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/28/11/2013/891522.shtml

    Maybe this is just the beginning, and then they will promote it seriously ... I would like to believe it!
  13. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 28 November 2013 09: 56
    +1
    VTsIOM notes that the largest number of people who spoke out in favor of canceling the draft in the Russian army while switching to a 100% contractual basis corresponded to representatives young generation.

    Patriotic education in schools, universities and just home education is clearly lame.
    The overwhelming majority of young people, unfortunately, have banknotes or, more precisely, their number, the main value in life. Everything else is secondary and tertiary. "Thanks to the 'liberal' educators."
    1. corn
      corn 28 November 2013 21: 56
      +1
      No comment.

      These youth are corrupted to the core. Young people are insidious and negligent. They will never be like the youth of bygone days. The young generation of today is not able to preserve our culture ”(Ancient Babylonia, ХХХ century BC)

      Our world has reached a critical stage. Children do not obey their parents. The end of the world is near! (Ancient Egypt, XX century BC.)

      I have lost all hope for the future of our country if modern youth takes over the reins of government, for these youth are unbearable, unstable, simply terrible! (Hesiod, 720 B.C.)

      Young shrews, without obedience and respect for elders. Truth was rejected, customs were not recognized. Nobody understands them, and they do not want to be understood. They bring death to the world and will become its last limit (Ancient Egypt, ХХХV century BC)

      Our youth loves luxury, badly brought up, taunts the authorities, does not respect the elderly. Our current children have become tyrants; they don’t get up when an elderly person enters the room, they always retold to their parents. ” (Socrates 400 BC)
  14. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 November 2013 10: 15
    0
    Quote: Valery Neon
    I don’t really know whether or not to rejoice:The main military investigative department of the Investigative Committee of Russia in relation to the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov opened a criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 Art. 293 of the Criminal Code (negligence).

    see: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/28/11/2013/891522.shtml

    Maybe this is just the beginning, and then they will promote it seriously ... I would like to believe it!

    Well, they waited !!! (and how many clavs were spoiled when writing angry comments ..) The thief will sit .. (but I think not for long .. it will start to hurt as always)))
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 28 November 2013 10: 30
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The thief will sit .. (

      Read what punishment is provided for in Part 1 of Art. 293, so far we can only rejoice that a criminal case has been opened.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 28 November 2013 10: 54
        +2
        I read .. the punishment is funny angry All hope for Vasiliev that the boss will surrender ..
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 28 November 2013 13: 28
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          All hope for Vasiliev that the boss will surrender.

          All hope for the political will of the president.
          Citizen Serdyukov? let's go!
          1. alone
            alone 28 November 2013 20: 47
            0
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            Citizen Serdyukov? let's go!


            Citizen Serdyukov? come along! -I will show you your new official’s chair !! lol
  15. winkiller
    winkiller 28 November 2013 10: 45
    0
    Quote: Valkyrie
    How to shoot at 100% innocence? In this case, it is necessary to shoot the court, which proved 100% innocence, if the guilt is obvious.

    And so ... Accusations are then brought against corruption and malpractice, and here, theoretically, he can push everything to the performers.
    The accusation must be brought precisely for the collapse of the country's defense, unfortunately, it’s not a lawyer, and I don’t know if the article is for treason and what they give for it.
  16. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 28 November 2013 11: 08
    +1
    Quote: Denis
    With the obligatory clause

    A criminal case of negligence was opened against Serdyukov


    The basis of the criminal case initiated against the ex-minister is an episode with the Zhitnoye recreation center, the improvement of which was carried out, according to the investigation, at the expense of the Ministry of Defense. Since the initiation of a criminal case on thefts in the Ministry of Defense in 2012, Serdyukov appeared in him only as a witness.


    MOSCOW, November 20 - RIA News. A case of negligence has been filed against the ex-Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Serdyukov, the damage is estimated at 56 million rubles, said the official representative of the IC of the Russian Federation Vladimir Markin on Thursday.

    “According to the investigation, Anatoly Serdyukov, as the Minister of Defense, verbally instructed subordinates to build, at the expense of the budget, a highway from the village of Krasa, Ikryaninsky District, Astrakhan Region, to Shkolny Island, on whose territory the non-profit partnership“ Zhitnoye ”is located,” Markin said.

    According to the investigation, this order of Serdyukov was motivated by a desire to create a recreation base for the needs of the Ministry of Defense.

    “In addition, by order of the former minister, work was also done to equip the territory of Zhitnoy. Landscaping works were carried out by conscript fighters of the aviation unit, and a battalion of railway troops built the highway, ”Markin said.

    That is, instead of service and training in military affairs, some soldiers were engaged in planting poplars in the Astrakhan steppe, while others were laying roads, not roads, but roads, the representative of the UK said.

    “As a result, a road was built that could only be used by owners and visitors of the Zhitnoye private property. In this case, no administrative documents, orders or directives that would justify the spending of budget funds or establish the legal rights of the Ministry of Defense for the road were not issued, ”Markin concluded.
    http://news.mail.ru/incident/15845990/?frommail=1
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 28 November 2013 11: 28
      +1
      A criminal case of negligence was opened against Serdyukov

      I could not stand it, I’ll also insert my five cents:

      The first part of Article 293 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which is accused of Serdyukov, provides for a fine in the form of a fine, or correctional labor for up to one year, or arrest for up to three months.

      Like this. Fine Tolya escapes for the collapse of the army. Best case scenario. If they prove it. More precisely, if they allow.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 28 November 2013 11: 36
      +4
      Quote: GreatRussia
      A criminal case of negligence was opened against Serdyukov


      Well, ping-pong went - at the filing of the Zionist-liberal clan, Serdyukov and Vasilyeva were almost acquitted and hired, in response, Putin initiates a criminal case under the mildest article possible. step-by-step in action. Warning-guys do not strongly greet otherwise the next step will be more weighty. We are waiting for the resignation of the Medvedev government after the Olympics.
      1. atalef
        atalef 28 November 2013 11: 37
        -1
        Well, ping-pong went - with the filing of the Zionist-liberal clan Serdyukov with Vasilyeva

        Well, I never thought that Serdyukov and Vasiliev are Jewish surnames belay
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 28 November 2013 14: 08
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Well, I never thought that Serdyukov and Vasiliev are Jewish surnames


          Have you doubted? Look not at the surname, but at the shiny faces of the face. They have Hanukkah with donuts all year round, faces will soon crack. So in terms of lifestyle and behavior it’s just super-selections, chosen from the chosen ones, even for obvious things no one can attract so powerful and strong support for the Zionist clan. belay
          a Jew in Russia is not a nationality but a way of life and worldview. A Jew in Russia is more than a Jew ... (almost a quote)

          Jews are easy to figure out
          rejecting empty names
          since Jews are not a nation
          but a form of existence.


          Scattering us all the way
          God gave us the mind, character, ardor;
          a Jew, of course, is chosen by God,
          but for what - the Creator forgot.

          Everywhere flowering in every way
          and ripening even in a fierce cold,
          Jews are strange fruits:
          they are juicier where the climate is worse.

          I sleep well and eat deliciously
          but in the brain is a chain of lanterns;
          if a Jew has no problems -
          that means he is not completely Jewish.

          Jews tear and dare
          everywhere they climb into the dough with yeast
          that's why they cut us off
          to take up less space.


          From Igor Huberman
          1. atalef
            atalef 28 November 2013 14: 31
            +1
            Have you doubted? Look not at the surname, but at the shiny faces of the face.

            Strange, I looked at my and colleagues at work, there were no glossy ones, although like Hanukkah started yesterday and we had already eaten donuts - probably we are not Jews
            so that in terms of lifestyle and behavior it’s just super-time,

            Well, what the hell am I doing every day at work from 6.30? No, I’m definitely, definitely not a Jew
            so powerful and strong support for the Zionist clan

            And the clan does not support me, thank you dear, now I know - I am a Russian prisoner of Zion.
            wassat
            .
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 28 November 2013 15: 49
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              looked at his and his work colleagues, there were no glossy ones, although it seems like Hanukkah started yesterday and we already ate donuts - probably we are not Jews


              Russian would share donuts, but would not eat in a narrow circle in one mug.
              And the fact that there are no shiny ones is because the Jews of Hanukkah have a week of everything (right ??) and Serdyukov and his ilk do not stop all year round.
              Quote: atalef
              Well, what the hell am I doing every day at work from 6.30? No, I’m definitely, definitely not a Jew


              A person who wears a bale does not eat pork and does not work on Saturdays -
              this is an orthodox jew.

              A person who does not wear bales eats pork, works on Saturdays, but
              nonetheless considers himself Jewish - this paradoxical Jew.

              Quote: atalef
              Now I know - I am a Russian prisoner of Zion


              - What does a young Jew do at night?
              - Zionism. laughing

              Okay, finish the banter, happy holiday! love How fashionable it is now in Europe - never mind, take it a meter lower.
              1. atalef
                atalef 28 November 2013 21: 19
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                Quote: Ascetic
                Russian would share donuts, but would not eat in a narrow circle in one mug.

                Ascetic, a narrow circle a priori does not mean one mug, do you want a donut? I can throw on soap tongue

                Quote: Ascetic
                And the fact that there are no shiny ones is because the Jews of Hanukkah have a week of everything (right ??) and Serdyukov and his ilk do not stop all year round.

                You confused a little at Serdyukov’s Shrovetide all year round

                Quote: Ascetic
                A person who wears a bale does not eat pork and does not work on Saturdays -
                this is an orthodox jew.

                Then it's not about me

                Quote: Ascetic
                A person who does not wear bales eats pork, works on Saturdays, but
                nevertheless considers himself Jewish - this is a paradoxical Jew

                And?

                Quote: Ascetic
                What does a young Jew do at night?
                - Zionism.

                Well this is better than communism

                Quote: Ascetic
                Okay, finish the banter, happy holiday! How fashionable it is now in Europe - never mind, take it a meter lower.

                And you, in general, I am much easier on this. I don’t eat a donut for you (I try to keep the minimal diet), but I light a candle (do not worry, do not worry) - for health hi
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv 28 November 2013 12: 34
        +1
        But I see in this that Putin is not omnipotent and that there is a clan struggle.
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  18. runway
    runway 28 November 2013 11: 24
    +2
    To give marks to the ministers for their work, and then their parent (the one who appointed them there) to call the director? Isn't it funny?
    The military took the first steps of Shoigu as Minister of Defense with enthusiasm. Many of the idiotic orders of his predecessor were canceled, strategic exercises of the armed forces began, some (by no means all) opportunists from the general and main staffs of the armed forces were dismissed, an attempt was made to restore order in the rear (military camps, property, apartments for military personnel), etc.
    But: the exercises are more like a show-off - when a very limited number of personnel and equipment are involved (often not reaching the regular strength of a motorized rifle brigade). With the wide involvement of the media, they are turning into SHOW ....
    The desire to restore order in the rear also has not yet yielded the necessary result. The population left in the military towns left are unfortunate people who often survive without the heat of water and light. The housing company for the military personnel is gradually dying out - all the dates promised to people have been passed long ago, and the line of non-housing military personnel has not decreased .... etc. etc. The desire to restore order in the rear also has not yet yielded the necessary result. The population left in the military towns left are unfortunate people who often survive without the heat of water and light. The housing company for the military personnel is gradually dying out - all the dates promised to people have been passed long ago, and the line of non-housing military personnel has not decreased .... etc. etc.
  19. patriot2
    patriot2 28 November 2013 11: 42
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    Quote: Ascetic
    the next step will be more weighty. We are waiting for the resignation of the Medvedev government after the Olympics.

    I think the wait is not long. At the University of Dam, to the pulpit and scribble memoirs ... laughing
  20. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 28 November 2013 11: 44
    +3
    Quote: Ascetic
    Well, ping-pong went - after filing the Zionist-liberal clan, Serdyukov and Vasilyeva were almost acquitted and hired, in response, Putin initiates a criminal case under the mildest article of all possible. Putin's step-by-step in action. guys do not greyhound strongly, otherwise the next step will be more weighty. We are waiting for the resignation of the Medvedev government after the Olympics.

    Keep your fists!

    And to this:


    A criminal case has been opened against the former director of Oboronservis

    Investigators opened a criminal case against Sergei Khursevich, the former general director of Oboronservis OJSC. This was reported to "Interfax" sources in law enforcement agencies.

    Khursevich is accused of evading customs payments on an especially large scale by prior conspiracy (Article 194 of the Criminal Code). This is an investigation of the facts related to the purchase of Italian-made armored vehicles for the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    Meanwhile, the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office sent materials to the military investigative bodies - copies of submissions and other documents of the prosecutor’s response that had previously been submitted to the former leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    “Among the materials there are also answers to these documents, which indicate that the Ministry of Defense officials, in spite of some comments in the media, were aware of the numerous violations of the law that were allowed when disposing of the property of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which was in the operational management of the military department, as well as in Oboronservis “And its member organizations,” another agency source said.

    According to him, "the former leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not take appropriate measures to eliminate violations in the field of use and sale of property."

    http://news.mail.ru/incident/15845378/?frommail=1
  21. Const
    Const 28 November 2013 12: 01
    0
    The article is about nothing.
    Units are able to use statistical data, for the rest this is a PR action. And specialists of public actions on the same initial data will build evidence of mutually exclusive conclusions, i.e. on the example of a white sheet of paper they prove that it is black, etc.
  22. veteran56
    veteran56 28 November 2013 12: 08
    +1
    The survey should not be conducted as you feel about the current Minister of Defense, but to the former. Shoigu - in his place, he will cope with the presidency. A criminal case was brought against Serdyukov and charged with negligence for 56 million, and the remaining millions will be forgiven. There used to be an article - wrecking of which was sentenced to capital punishment. Here would apply this article to Serdyukov - it would be wonderful !!!!
  23. twister
    twister 28 November 2013 13: 48
    0
    If it weren’t for the submarines and not the rocket mines ...... then it would have been shamelessly with Namo!
  24. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 28 November 2013 13: 52
    0
    The popular support of the army is a very important thing.
    Not by hearsay, I know (remember) how the anti-Soviet liberal-storophobic anti-Soviet activists ripened in perestroika and what this led to.
  25. Dimach
    Dimach 28 November 2013 15: 11
    +2
    Do you believe VTsIOM? Then Churov with a 146% guarantee that this survey is correct is ideal for you)
    1. 31231
      31231 28 November 2013 17: 23
      0
      Well, not Blevade.
      If you are not satisfied with this data, go ask yourself.
      I’m personally violet on all these polls.
  26. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 28 November 2013 17: 40
    0
    What an absurdity !!!, to discuss the calculations of VTsIOM, this corrupt girl of modern Russian (or rather offshore) capitalism. So military science should be an important issue. Contractors (as I see them) need the army as air with its one-year service system. Instead Sochi’s money drawdown, it would be possible to raise the contract workers sn, create real social elevators and pension guarantees. Only propaganda from VTsIOM, that's the whole exhaust.
  27. Maxsh
    Maxsh 28 November 2013 18: 19
    +1
    I don’t know, maybe I will not be original, but why not hand over a questionnaire with such a survey to every serving person during demobilization? Then maybe this survey will be more objective?
  28. T-73
    T-73 28 November 2013 19: 30
    0
    Serdyukov was given to you again. The question is not about him now. Time changes - the army changes. Now specialists are really needed. And if earlier in 2-3 years a conscript could become one, now can you teach a lot in a year? But personally, I am convinced that the urgent is needed. As an advanced NVP with a specialization that does not require high qualifications from a private or sergeant. If you have accepted a year, then let this year make at least a competent driver, a signalman, a second number of the calculation out of a new recruit. It is clear that he will not become the driver of the S-300 platform (for example), but there is a lot of other equipment. The reduction in the size of the army should not (especially now) be achieved only by reducing the service life, but only and not otherwise than by improving the quality of personnel and equipment. And the bar seems to be at a minimum. We are going to buy more and more weapons for our army, and only contract soldiers cannot do this. And only by finding this balance and having modern and reliable equipment, we will increase the percentage of confidence in ourselves, or whatever - the "positive assessment" of our army. And no polls will be needed, even VTsIOM, even demobels, even the US Congress
    1. alone
      alone 28 November 2013 20: 48
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      Quote: T-73
      And if earlier in 2-3 years a conscript could become one, now now in a year you will learn a lot?


      practically nothing. The conscript will only just begin to understand what’s what, and here she is, the coveted demobilization!
      1. T-73
        T-73 28 November 2013 21: 05
        0
        Moreover, if you serve in a bus stop from your home, then there cannot be a cherished demobilization
  29. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 28 November 2013 22: 48
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    Quote: Narrator.tales
    probably polls were conducted in people after 30
    Just about the military service they asked the same people - both in 1998 and in 2013)) (the draft age has passed)
  30. shurup
    shurup 28 November 2013 23: 29
    +1
    For negligence, one should not judge Serdyukov, but the one who put him there.
    Serdyukov, however, must answer not for stupidity, but for damage specifically inflicted on the treasury.
    A survey on the conformity of the chief of the post among his subordinates, in this case, military personnel, is not conducted. During the survey, only personal claims are taken into account in resolving personal issues.
    I have only one complaint against Shoigu. I believe that it is necessary to issue socks and footcloths.
  31. Watchman
    Watchman 30 November 2013 16: 29
    0
    Personally, my attitude towards the Russian army has always been very good.
  32. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- 1 December 2013 20: 50
    0
    The verdict to Serdyukov will reflect the real attitude of high circles of power to theft in the Ministry of Defense.