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NATO bases in the Caspian. Myth or reality?

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NATO bases in the Caspian. Myth or reality?Alexey Sinitsyn, chief expert of the US-Azerbaijan Fund promote progress:


- Russian, Central Asian, as, incidentally, and the media in other countries presented a sensational news “Kazakhstan gave the go-ahead for the opening of the port of Aktau for the transit of the US and NATO forces and for their permanent deployment.” Moreover, the press saw the "intelligence signs" of the redeployment of the American military airbase "Manas" from Kyrgyzstan to the Caspian coast. Colleague Viktor Yaduha, in an instantly popular article “NATO is already in the Caspian Sea?” On the Rosbalt portal, writes: “The recent reconstruction of Aktau airport, which can now receive airplanes and drones of all classes in the world, from Boing-747 indirectly , to the world's largest An-224 "Mriya". Well, the imminent deployment of American military bases in Azerbaijan does not raise doubts among some Russian political scientists. Thus, Grigori Trofimchuk, the first vice-president of the Center for Modeling Strategic Development, is sure that it is only a matter of time. According to him, “the United States is actively developing its military-political presence throughout the world, in all regions, especially in the CIS countries. ... Therefore, US bases will soon appear, practically, in all post-Soviet countries. ” And, of course, political scientists are convinced that the strike power of the American bases in the Caspian will be directed against the insidious Iran, despite all the diplomatic breakthroughs in the relations of the world community with this country.

Well, let's see. During the presidency of George W. Bush in 2004, the American and British military did indeed conduct the Hotspur headquarters games, which also used the “Caspian scenario,” implying the deployment of NATO units in the region. But even then no American bases appeared on the territory of the Caspian states.

Almost ten years have passed since then, the war with Iran has lost all relevance for the West, if only because in the Eurasian “instability arc” only Shiite Iran is able to withstand the rich Sunni monarchies that have become, to put it mildly, politically turbulent. Russian-American cooperation on the Syrian and Iranian issues has finally been established, which the Obama administration does not intend to torpedo by deploying its military bases near Russian borders. And then, the United States adopted a different defense concept, they are leaving Afghanistan, but it is this factor that has given rise to speculation about the fact that evacuating from this mountainous country, they will remain in the Caspian littoral states. By the way, there is no sensation in the fact that part of the American cargo from Afghanistan is being evacuated through the Caspian Sea. Both Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan are included in the so-called. The Northern Distribution Network for the supply of troops to the antiterrorist coalition. But on this route pass only non-military goods. Almost 90% of the evacuation of the US and NATO forces are carried out and will be carried out through a much more economical Pakistani route. Then why should American military facilities appear in these Caspian countries? According to this logic, they should be deployed on the site of the Ulyanovsk logistics center serving the troops of the Western allies in Afghanistan. Almost 75 thousands of freight containers have already been shipped through this center.

Speaking about the American military presence in the Caspian Sea, the media cite an anonymous source who saw several Americans in civilian clothes in the port of Aktau, but with a military bearing. And Mr. Trofimchuk, in general, stated that "the US naval flag is already flying in the area of ​​responsibility of Kazakhstan." I wonder how colleagues see the US naval base on the Caspian Sea? Will the American aircraft carrier group pass through the Volga-Don Canal, or will the Americans assemble, as a children's designer, a nuclear submarine in some Caspian port?

Well, as for the redeployment of the US Air Force base from the Kyrgyz "Manas" to Aktau airport, this has been talked about for quite some time. In addition to Aktau, Kazakhstan’s Shymkent, Tajik Kulyab, and unspecified airfields in Uzbekistan were named as new addresses for American pilots. But here is what an unnamed American military source told Joshua Kucera, a well-known journalist: “It will take time and money to build a new facility,” which the Pentagon is now in dire need of. So, the alternative to Manas will probably have to be sought in Romania.

Today there are no American bases on the territory of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, and official Baku has repeatedly stated that there will be no foreign military facilities in the Azerbaijani borders. But this fact did not embarrass the deputy director of the Center for the Study of the Post-Soviet Space, Yulia Yakushev, who believes that the United States is unlikely to limit itself to the creation of a transit center in Aktau. “Rather, this is just an excuse for a full-fledged military presence of the United States in Central Asia, on the Caspian Sea and in the South Caucasus. There are no guarantees that the arrival of the United States in the Caspian region will not become the basis for further destabilization in the region according to the established pattern of “controlled chaos”, including in Azerbaijan, ”the expert says. Is there already a “defective”, partial presence of Americans in the Caspian Sea or in Azerbaijan?

At one time, the US ambassador to Azerbaijan was Stephen Mann - one of the founding fathers of the concept of "controlled chaos." And what in Azerbaijan did he translate his theoretical model into a practical plane? Of course not. Is it even possible to artificially create chaos in a completely prosperous and stable state, and then also skillfully manage it? If so, why was it not possible to do this in Iran, although various political players spent a lot of manpower and resources on this? "Managed chaos", like other neoconservative "chips", has long been dropped out of the American political agenda. It turned out to be impossible to control them, as the whole “Arab Spring” proved. Not only the United States tried to use it for its own purposes, but it turns out that it is worse for now than for Russia or Israel. So you should not demonize the Americans, attributing to them the most insidious plans for Iran, Russia or the post-Soviet states. The United States, like all other global players, is full of its skeletons in political cabinets. But this does not mean that someone in the White House or the Pentagon dreams of their own aircraft carriers, plowing the Caspian expanses or “Phantoms”, taking off from the airfields of the Caspian states.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 28 November 2013 07: 15
    12
    20 YEARS ago, we considered the emergence of NATO at our borders to be fantastic — now their missiles are just minutes away from Moscow and ST. PETERSBURG.
    So the NATO’s appetite has only grown.
    Next in line UKRAINE, I'm not talking about the CASPIAN.
    The ultimate goal of the expansion of NATO-RUSSIA with its enormous wealth is spoken about without hiding US policies.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 28 November 2013 07: 43
      +5
      There will be no NATO either in the Caspian or in Ukraine. Russia will not allow it, it is not the same as it was 10 years ago. And have to reckon with her.
      1. romb
        romb 28 November 2013 10: 23
        +2
        Here the big role is played not by the desires and possibilities of Russia, but by the needs of the same Caspian states. Kazakhstan does not need an American base on its territory. Rather, the only scenario in which there may be a need for NATO military bases on its territory is a sharp deterioration in relations with China.
    2. AVV
      AVV 28 November 2013 11: 28
      +1
      The states put their snout everywhere, and it’s not time for us to open, in contrast to the bases in the Caribbean, Venezuela and Cuba, for example, and look at the reaction of the US Department of State !!! ???
  2. Guun
    Guun 28 November 2013 07: 16
    12
    Eh, and after all he raised one empty rumor and such a thing was arranged here. People do not want to think with their head and look at the facts - they were told by the media and the point (whether it is reliable or not - according to dick!) We will not have a US base and a point!
    1. Circle
      Circle 28 November 2013 07: 22
      +7
      I completely agree. And this is exactly what he spoke about, commenting on the previous article about the "base in the Caspian". How easy it is for people to fall for provocations. (
    2. Stinger
      Stinger 28 November 2013 11: 37
      +2
      True. These "analysts" have already gotten fed up. They would do better urine tests.
    3. knn54
      knn54 28 November 2013 12: 21
      0
      At the beginning of the 90s, a plan for the military operation "Storm over the Caspian" was developed at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which provided for military intervention in the event of conflicts between the Caspian countries or a sharp aggravation of the situation in the North Caucasus, as well as complications in US-Iranian relations. And among the strategic goals and bases of the "Storm" - Turkmenbashi and Aktau, respectively ...
      And Kazakhstan is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, therefore, there cannot (should not) be military bases of countries outside this organization.
  3. domokl
    domokl 28 November 2013 07: 19
    +2
    The desire to force Azerbaijan to provide its bases for the American and NATO forces, I think, was the main incentive for drawing Baku into the EU. But the statement of the Azerbaijani government on changing the format of the agreement mixed all the cards.
    Baku made a successful move, but, again, it seems to me, a little belated. Iran also made a good move. It is precisely the loss of relevance of the military operation in Iran that somewhat neutralizes the demarche of Baku.
    1. Canep
      Canep 28 November 2013 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      for drawing Baku into the EU

      Baku as well as Kiev sent the EU to three well-known letters. Just noise from Baku was much less.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 28 November 2013 13: 06
        +3
        Quote: Canep
        Quote: domokl
        for drawing Baku into the EU

        Baku as well as Kiev sent the EU to three well-known letters. Just noise from Baku was much less.

        Well, Kiev was under heavy pressure in Moscow and Kiev was more likely to slow down. And unlike Baku, Ukraine wanted to sign, but Baku did not initially express a desire. Of all the countries, Ukraine, which was forced to adjoin, was romania, which after deliveries arms abruptly ceased in Baku, Moldova and Georgia.
        Azerbaijan is an exporter of oil and gas, and these goods get to Europe anyway, and Europeans themselves are interested in this. Customs after customs are unnecessary for this.
        Merit Russia is Ukraine and Armenia, but Azerbaijan is not.
  4. bomg.77
    bomg.77 28 November 2013 07: 21
    +3
    The media refer to an anonymous source,
    Tipo British scientists laughing
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 28 November 2013 07: 27
      +5
      Quote: bomg.77
      Tipo British scientists

      Do you not trust British scientists ?! belay

      British scientists have calculated how long it takes to teleport a person
      To teleport a person from Earth to a station located in its orbit, 4,85 quadrillion years is needed, according to a study by scientists at the University of Leicester.
      How can you not trust them after such discoveries laughing laughing laughing
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 28 November 2013 09: 05
        +2
        According to the calculations of British scientists, 90% of people simulate evolution.
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 28 November 2013 09: 35
        +2
        Quote: avant-garde
        Do you not trust British scientists ?!
        Only them and no one else! The rest have no faith)) hi
  5. makarov
    makarov 28 November 2013 07: 23
    +2
    I share the conclusions of the author. Now the United States is not in the position to be able to control the whole world. Means and opportunities are already lacking, and if we add to this the elements of effective confrontation, then the desire fights off without getting hit.
    1. avt
      avt 28 November 2013 11: 01
      0
      Quote: makarov
      I share the conclusions of the author. Now the United States is not in the position to be able to control the whole world. Means and opportunities are already lacking, and if we add to this the elements of effective confrontation, then the desire fights off without getting hit.

      It’s a pity that Americans don’t read the author and don’t know your opinion that they are “in the wrong position” against the background of the Americans leaving Afghanistan with the creation of bases there. It is, of course, nice to hear about America's weakness and all sorts of "departures", but here's how the reality is that in Iraq, where they have diplomats "in uniform and with a gun, that again, the exodus" from Afgan, theories of weakness do not confirm ...
  6. George
    George 28 November 2013 07: 30
    +1
    Speaking about the American military presence in the Caspian Sea, the media refer to a certain anonymous source who saw several Americans in civilian clothes in the port of Aktau, but with military dressing.

    They marched with a banner and decided on a business trip what to stand, what the hell, and then they sang a hymn.
  7. Belogor
    Belogor 28 November 2013 08: 25
    0
    It’s just that various rumors fall on favorable ground for them, weeds of speculation grow up, because now all kinds of media and bloggers have become unintentionally divorced, and a rather low amount of injury. But nevertheless, such an opportunity cannot be ruled out in the future; a change in the regimes and orientations of the political course of the countries of this region may lead to such surprises.
  8. Humpty
    Humpty 28 November 2013 08: 27
    +1
    The NATO base in the Caspian is just a rumor. The withdrawal of the NATO military from the Manas base is also a rumor, so far not confirmed by anything significant.
  9. major071
    major071 28 November 2013 08: 41
    +8
    The simplest example of manipulating public opinion. One article appears - "The Americans are creating a military base in Kazakhstan's Aktau", everyone condemns Kazakhstan and vilifies the Amers. In a couple of days another article appears - "There will be no American bases in Kazakhstan", everyone praises Kazakhstan and threatens amers.
    All this infa from reliable sources such as "OBS" - one woman blurted out.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 28 November 2013 08: 51
      +7
      The purest misinformation about the allegedly planned deployment of American bases in the Caspian. Russia and Iran, too, are closely monitoring all movements of American troops and cargo from Afghanistan. Does anyone think that Russia and Iran will allow these bases to appear near and directly at their borders. Never. Yes, both Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan have no reason to aggravate their relations with the two countries I mentioned above.
  10. Free Island
    Free Island 28 November 2013 09: 17
    +2
    I certainly understand that in our time it is very fashionable to cause panic!)) all kinds of FALSE experts, false analysts and other impostors raise their rating on jaundice :))) However, everyone forgot that there is an AGREEMENT between the countries of the Caspian pool , the terms of which, inter alia, include a ban on the provision of its territory for the deployment of military forces of all kinds of left adversaries)))) so that hallelujah will not be what is crossed out in the article.
  11. Stiletto
    Stiletto 28 November 2013 09: 20
    +2
    "NATO bases in the Caspian Sea. Myth or reality?"

    So far - a myth, but, if not scratched, it may well become a reality.
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 November 2013 10: 04
    0
    There is no smoke without fire .. Anglo-Saxons are probing this region, it is obvious! And "Maybe it will blow ..." ours will not ride here ..
    1. George
      George 28 November 2013 10: 06
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Anglo-Saxons probe this region

      I hope they carry it.
      1. Ihrek
        Ihrek 28 November 2013 10: 08
        +1
        It’ll carry anyway, I’m sure.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 28 November 2013 10: 27
          0
          And if it doesn’t carry it, we will carry it forward with our feet .. laughing
  13. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 28 November 2013 10: 47
    +1
    The Republic of Kazakhstan will strengthen cooperation with the member states of the Collective Security Treaty Organization in the framework of coalition military construction, carried out in the interests of joint security and collective defense in the event of military aggression. (Military doctrine of the Republic of Kazakhstan. APPROVED by Decree of the President of the Republic of Kazakhstan of October 11 2011 No. 161)


    Today there are no American bases on the territory of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, and official Baku has repeatedly stated that there will be no foreign military facilities in the Azerbaijani borders. But this fact did not embarrass the deputy director of the Center for the Study of the Post-Soviet Space, Yulia Yakushev, who believes that the United States is unlikely to limit itself to the creation of a transit center in Aktau. “Rather, this is just an excuse for a full-fledged military presence of the United States in Central Asia, on the Caspian Sea and in the South Caucasus. There are no guarantees that the arrival of the United States in the Caspian region will not become the basis for further destabilization in the region according to the established pattern of “controlled chaos”, including in Azerbaijan, ”the expert says. Is there already a “defective”, partial presence of Americans in the Caspian Sea or in Azerbaijan?

    Time will tell the myth or reality of American bases in Central Asia. Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan are part of the military-political bloc of the CSTO. The United States is now not in the same financial position as it used to be, although they really want to stay in this region and who knows what they can do. I think this is hardly acceptable for all CSTO members, but "the gunpowder must be kept dry" against the Anglo-Saxon fox.
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 28 November 2013 13: 31
      +5
      Quote: vlad.svargin

      The myth or reality of American bases in Central Asia will show time. Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan are part of the CSTO military-political bloc.


      A transit point for the transportation of goods can and will be, but the base is not.
  14. Semurg
    Semurg 28 November 2013 11: 15
    +7
    75000 containers passed through Ulyanovsk; the same good volume is obtained.
  15. dimon-media
    dimon-media 28 November 2013 11: 36
    +2
    I hate it when they say something in defense of the United States. If they are so "respectable" then WHO is sponsoring the color revolutions, the fifth column? Haha, I ask, more (900!)US military bases around the world? In general, the fact of poking one's snout into the internal affairs of sovereign states is wildly enraging especially not their neighbors, but overseas! What the hell do you need here ?! Have you heard about the so-called economic killers? Watch three episodes of the movie American Billiards.
    1 series

    2 series

    3 series
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQG9X9PfF0M&list=FLhk5DqOPUjW804nhQtZj-Bg&index=1

    4
  16. ed65b
    ed65b 28 November 2013 11: 56
    -1
    So, the first vice-president of the Center for Strategic Development Modeling Grigory Trofimchuk

    Grisha, better go to the Maidan to Klitschka, and in general the question is, who holds you in that position? you would have to make egg laying forecasts in the chicken coop.
  17. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 28 November 2013 12: 05
    0
    Naglo-Saxons are like that, if you give them a finger, they will chop off the whole hand. If this happens, it will definitely be bad. The Anaconda plan has not been canceled.
  18. Zymran
    Zymran 28 November 2013 13: 31
    +6
    "Controlled chaos", like other neoconservative "chips", have long fallen from the American political agenda. It turned out to be impossible to control, as the whole “Arab spring” proved. Not only the United States tried to use it for their own purposes, but they are doing it so far worse than Russia or Israel. So do not demonize the Americans, ascribing to them the most insidious plans for Iran, Russia or the post-Soviet states.


    I wrote about this a long time ago, and, by the way, collected a bunch of cons. In general, I wonder what stupid person came up with the term "controlled chaos"? Chaos is chaos because it cannot be controlled.

    Damn, the censorship system works as it should, deb ... l fixed it on an unintelligent person. I directly respect the admins of the site. Indeed, courtesy must always be respected. smile
  19. alone
    alone 28 November 2013 20: 15
    +2
    The constitution forbids us to have foreign military bases on our territory. We are not interested in the fact that the EU, having concluded an associative agreement with us, began to dictate what we should do. The state has enough of its own financial resources to solve its problems. There will be no base in the Caspian region. to the least, neither Kazakhstan nor Azerbaijan needs it. but its troops are taken out of Afghanistan along the Aktau-Baku-Tbilisi-Turkey-Europe corridor. Moreover, they pay decently for this.
  20. Andrey KZ
    Andrey KZ 28 November 2013 21: 22
    +4
    Viktor Yaduha, in the instantly popular article “Is NATO already on the Caspian?” On the Rosbalt portal, writes: “This is indirectly indicated by the recently completed reconstruction of Aktau airport, which can now accept planes and drones of all classes existing in the world, from Boeing-747, to the world's largest An-224 Mriya.
    Strange conclusions from Viktor Yaduhi request We have reconstructed an airport in Shymkent, in Taraz, in Alma-Ata, in other cities, too, maybe. Now what happens, will we have a NATO base in every regional center?