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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 26 November 2013

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The agreement on Iran means a radical reversal of all modern world politics. In contrast, by the way, from the routine Ukrainian wiggles that we have yet to observe for a long time. About the fact that the United States is ready for such a turn, we spoke a year ago. Then some twisted his finger to his temple.

The United States, the world's largest consumer of hydrocarbons, has now completely stopped gas imports and quickly reduced oil imports. According to President Obama, by the year 2020, the United States will become the largest exporter of hydrocarbons. That is, the “geopolitics of oil”, which was served by all the American foreign policy and military doctrine that was still in force, is becoming a thing of the past. And with it the whole system of relations, alliances and military-political presence.

French political scientist orientalist Thierry Maysan: “Since the country is in crisis, Obama is trying to find a new balance point in the world. He is well aware that the status of the main and only world power costs the United States too much. Therefore, Obama wants to return to the old type of relationship and achieve a full-fledged agreement with Russia not only in Syria, but throughout the region. "

Notice, Maysan said this long before the U-turn in Syria. Not like Iran. Although this is essentially the same thing. Now everything just falls into place. As well as the sudden cooling of American relations with Saudi Arabia for some, which they took care of in exchange for oil guarantees.
Thierry Maysan: “But now the situation has changed dramatically - the Americans are able to provide themselves with petroleum products. To support the Saudis means to discredit themselves, because these people hate everyone. Therefore, the old Pentagon’s plan came out, titled“ Saudi withdrawal from Arabia ”.

It is no secret that precisely the flood monarchies were the motor and material propeller of the anti-Iranian and, accordingly, anti-Syrian hysteria of the West. Whole strata of American and European, especially the elite, tightly worn by the Saudi and Qatari loot have been formed.

To incite the West against Iran, to incite it into the Sunni-Shiite war for supremacy in the Islamic world is the Saudi's only hope of survival. There is no such hope for today. Therefore, the outlined, it seems, wonderful Saudi-Israeli alliance is an alliance of losers who did not fit into the general line of the "Washington regional committee." The Saudis are unlikely to help. And Israel is a pity.

The Stratfor Research Center, which experts say is close to a variety of intelligence agencies, called the deal with Iran a "landmark shift in geopolitics in the Middle East." Two and a half years ago, its founder, George Friedman, pointed to the American tradition of "redefining problems", which includes the possibility of alliances with deadly enemies for the sake of US interests, citing Roosevelt's alliance with Stalin, Nixon's decision to draw closer to China. "American история, wrote Friedman, is full of cynicism at the conclusion of unions. To resolve seemingly unsolvable strategic dilemmas. "

That's exactly what we talked about. About the turn of Americans from marasmus to cynicism. This is a very positive trend. This is the necessary prerequisite for the current successes of Russian diplomacy.
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  1. Alez
    Alez 27 November 2013 08: 30
    +3
    From senility to cynicism, from cynicism to occupation and intervention.
    1. APES
      APES 27 November 2013 09: 59
      +3
      Quote: Alez
      from cynicism to occupation and intervention


      do you mean it -

      An old Pentagon plan called "Withdrawal of the Saudis from Arabia" surfaced.


      it will be funny to watch.
      1. smel
        smel 27 November 2013 11: 28
        16
        The Saudis are unlikely to help. But Israel is sorry.
        But I don’t feel sorry for either of them, much less others. I’m not bloodthirsty, but ... I don’t write further ... They’ll banned ...
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 27 November 2013 12: 15
          +9
          I would clarify - I don’t feel sorry for the top of the second, but ordinary people feel sorry for him, they exchanged him for the Second World War, throwing them at the Nazis and setting up the Holocaust, and the financiers and industrialists (ashchenazes) lived very well and did not suffer any persecution, they’ll throw him at eating, and the bankers will survive, they are citizens of the world, it’s good for them in any country, they will not fight and die, but they will earn on this !!!
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 27 November 2013 15: 09
          +5
          I just wanted to say that it’s already someone, but Israel doesn’t feel a bit sorry.
          Why regret that the United States does not want to be a Jewish chain dog? Actually, the USA is a sovereign state and has the right to its outwardly political line (albeit the opposite, in my opinion).
          Better regret ourselves, let’s give us no one’s just unfastening money, they just strive to whistle, Israel defeated the humanitarian flotilla (they used the firearm immediately), but theybuilding materials-Give the Jews in Gaza they don’t even build schools. And all sorts of McCartney Madonnas are silent about this, and because of the busirayt, there’s some kind of priest.
          And with us? Greenpeace detained-not fired, and detained, so immediately beat our ambassador!
          So who should be sorry?
          And for some reason, all sorts of McCartney Madonnas are silent about this, but because of the busirayt, there’s some kind of priest.
          Ugh. I do not want to talk about feces, disgusting.
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 27 November 2013 15: 37
      -1
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    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 28 November 2013 03: 53
      0
      Quote: Alez
      From senility to cynicism, from cynicism to occupation and intervention.


      This intervention is insanity ... according to your running in a circle turns out.
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 28 November 2013 17: 39
      0
      On the U-turn of Americans from senility to cynicism. This is a very positive trend.

      Well, right balm for the soul !
      Sor-r-warriors ... !!!
      fellow
  2. saag
    saag 27 November 2013 08: 35
    18
    Cynics are the most sober-minded people, I think there isn’t enough cynicism in Ukraine now, solid romanticism :-)
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 November 2013 08: 42
      11
      It’s time for the United States to get used to and hack on its nose or forehead laughing with the thought that it is no longer a superpower, but to us that Russia is being reborn and is persistently declaring itself on the world stage. The end is unipolar and the beginning of a multipolar world. good
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 November 2013 09: 23
        +9
        Quote: ..However, "with Mikhail Leontyev.
        And supporting the Saudis means discrediting oneself, because everyone hates these people.


        This is a blatant lie. They love each other for a long time, but do not joke with love.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 27 November 2013 09: 55
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak
          They love each other for a long time, but do not joke with love.

          Yeah ... Exact!
          Love is blind! laughing
          1. alexng
            alexng 27 November 2013 15: 26
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Love is blind! laughing


            Yeah! Evil - loved Saudi and Bush! (the last read together as written)
        2. APES
          APES 27 November 2013 09: 57
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak
          They love each other for a long time, but with love


          Love for money is not love, but ....
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 27 November 2013 10: 22
            +3
            Quote: APES
            Love for money is not love

            The girls on the avenue won't agree with you. laughing
            1. APES
              APES 27 November 2013 10: 28
              +2
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Girls from the avenue


              they call it simply - "work" - there are no feelings there, but only cold calculation smeared in the right places with intimate gel ...
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 27 November 2013 10: 52
                0
                Quote: APES
                lubricated in the right places with an intimate gel ....

                How do you know? lol
                1. APES
                  APES 27 November 2013 11: 30
                  +9
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  How do you know


                  I follow international politics !!!!!!! In... drinks
        3. maxon106
          maxon106 27 November 2013 10: 32
          +3
          their policies are based on cynicism and betrayal. And they will apply it sooner or later.
        4. Cynic
          Cynic 28 November 2013 17: 44
          0
          Quote: Vadivak
          They love each other for a long time, but do not joke with love.

          Guess at once which one of them is a "black widow" !?
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 27 November 2013 08: 59
      +4
      I beg your pardon, but it seems to me that there is now frenzied Westernist nationalism raised its head ....
    3. APES
      APES 27 November 2013 09: 51
      +2
      Quote: saag
      solid romanticism :-)


      usually at this time (romanticism) most of all stupid things you do. wink
  3. sega72
    sega72 27 November 2013 08: 39
    24
    "Sorry for Israel" I do not know, I do not know. More likely not than yes. Why hypocrisy do not mind a bit.
    1. Orel
      Orel 27 November 2013 08: 47
      +3
      "Sorry for Israel" I do not know, I do not know. More likely not than yes. Why hypocrisy do not mind a bit.


      Come on, there are a lot of Russian-speaking citizens, ordinary workers, engineers, teachers and ordinary military men, and far from millionaires. Of course, there are enough escaped "Russian" oligarchs there, but still this is an exception, not a rule ...
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 27 November 2013 09: 05
        +6
        It seems to me it would be necessary to say that I feel sorry for the people of Israel. It's a pity for ordinary people! But Israel has not existed for almost 2000 years, and if there is still not so much of it, this special upset will not cause Second Coming "!
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 27 November 2013 09: 44
          +1
          Quote: kartalovkolya
          God's commandment about the prohibition of the creation of the state of Israel until the Second Coming "!
          They must build a third temple for the Mashiach to ascend to the throne, and the third temple must stand on the site of the Al Aqsa mosque, which they will demolish anyway. Israel itself conceived the project to build a third temple.
      2. catapractic
        catapractic 27 November 2013 09: 13
        +5
        escaped "Russian" oligarchs are easier to find in London smile
      3. bomg.77
        bomg.77 27 November 2013 09: 14
        18
        Quote: Orel
        Come on, there are a lot of Russian-speaking citizens, simple hard workers, engineers, teachers and ordinary military, and not millionaires.
        This is you about those who were leaving spitting. They are Russian-speaking, but not ours, and never were them.
        1. Encoder
          Encoder 27 November 2013 10: 07
          +4
          In! And there is.
      4. DEfindER
        DEfindER 27 November 2013 09: 53
        +2
        Quote: Orel
        Come on, there are a lot of Russian-speaking citizens, simple hard workers, engineers, teachers and ordinary military, and not millionaires.

        True idea, but only in part .. Their prime minister himself said that Israel is very grateful to the USSR for a huge number of scientists and engineers who immigrated to their country, and Russia for a huge number of oligarchs, along with their money .. so we have a "very strong friendship."
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 27 November 2013 10: 12
          +5
          Quote: DEfindER
          Their prime minister himself said that Israel is very grateful to the USSR for a huge number of scientists and engineers
          And in gratitude, the Jewish lobby pushed through Jackson Venik's amendment.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 28 November 2013 18: 05
            0
            Quote: bomg.77
            Quote: DEfindER
            Their prime minister himself said that Israel is very grateful to the USSR for a huge number of scientists and engineers
            And in gratitude, the Jewish lobby pushed through Jackson Venik's amendment.

            First they sold it, and then the engineers came to them. Something like this if you look at the time
      5. APES
        APES 27 November 2013 10: 01
        0
        Quote: Orel
        there are many Russian-speaking citizens, simple


        I somehow have little association with Israel ... request
      6. Encoder
        Encoder 27 November 2013 10: 05
        +4
        Pity yourself. Those who fled so easily there (not even oligarchs) just as easily fled back. And we live with them.
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man 27 November 2013 20: 34
          +3
          Quote: Coder
          Pity yourself. Those who fled so easily there (not even oligarchs) just as easily fled back. And we live with them.

          A small correction, not to us with them, but to them with us, and then if we let it go. lol
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 27 November 2013 09: 02
      0
      . Rather no than yes. Why don't you feel a bit hypocritical? laughing Healthy cynicism in action.
      1. skullcap
        skullcap 27 November 2013 13: 23
        +1
        Quote: me by
        Healthy cynicism in action

        In my opinion, Leontyev is the one who displays healthy cynicism in this situation.
        I think: one must admit that at the moment the most dangerous (even mortal) enemy for Russia is, to put it mildly, political Islam. And Israel can be a weighty ally, as in 41 they became the United States and “good old” England, which we also do not really like.
        At least there is something to think about.
  4. domokl
    domokl 27 November 2013 08: 45
    +9
    As a geopolitical perspective, Leontief’s opinion is true. But so far, the world is unlikely to change in the coming 2-3 years. A house too fast will lead to a big war in the region. And nobody needs it. So the loop will be delayed slowly so that the future dead and not emphasized that he became a corpse ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 November 2013 10: 00
      10
      Quote: domokl
      Too fast a house will lead to a large war in the region, and nobody needs it, which means they will tighten the loop slowly so that the future dead man doesn’t really notice that he has become a corpse ...

      The dynamics of events will show how events follow. Today, China began to slowly but confidently establish its vision of the situation in the Pacific. And, it seems, it is just as slowly and confidently PUSHING on the opinions of Japan and the USA combined.
  5. saag
    saag 27 November 2013 08: 48
    +2
    Quote: Apollon
    It’s time for the United States to get used to and chop off its nose or forehead with the idea that it is no longer a superpower

    Illusions, however, nothing much has changed.
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 27 November 2013 09: 10
    +3
    The prose of life ... the United States earned in the war, supplying weapons to the region, now it is time to make money in the world, receiving orders from plundered and destroyed regions for the restoration of infrastructure and production.
    1. mivmim
      mivmim 27 November 2013 09: 29
      0
      Quote: Strashila
      receiving orders from plundered and destroyed regions for the restoration of infrastructure and production.

      When did they restore what they destroyed?
      1. Encoder
        Encoder 27 November 2013 10: 12
        +2
        They will not restore. They give money at interest and with conditions such as the obligatory participation of such corporations or compulsory purchases from both.
      2. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 28 November 2013 18: 07
        0
        Quote: mivmim
        Quote: Strashila
        receiving orders from plundered and destroyed regions for the restoration of infrastructure and production.

        When did they restore what they destroyed?

        After WWII, Europe recovered with American money - Marshall Plan
  7. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 November 2013 09: 11
    +3
    The change in US relations with Iran evokes different thoughts: "... and against whom will they be friends?" Iran has never been special friends for us, it looks like the center of gravity of the confrontation with Russia is being transferred by the Americans to where they were thrown out by Ayatollah Khomeini at one time!
  8. ReifA
    ReifA 27 November 2013 09: 24
    +1
    Xs xs. The Saudis are completely tied to the United States, Iran is not. Saudi IMHO too early to merge.
    In Israel -
    "The President stressed that the United States will consistently fulfill its obligations towards Israel, which has serious grounds for being skeptical about Iran's intentions," the White House said in a statement.
    http://www.mignews.com/news/politic/world/251113_164304_57355.html
  9. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 27 November 2013 09: 27
    +1
    Quote: "As the country is in crisis, Obama is trying to find a new balance point in the world. He understands very well that the status of the main and only world power is too expensive for the United States."
    Finally it came to the US ruling elite that being a world gendarme is very expensive. And the taxpayer grumbles displeasedly. And friendship with the medieval monarchies of the Persian Gulf lost all meaning after developing its own gas and oil fields. With such a powerful airbag, the Yankees are trying to change foreign policy, share responsibility for maintaining world order, with other leading states of the planet and make their foreign policy initiatives less financially costly.
  10. Normal
    Normal 27 November 2013 09: 30
    +2
    Quote: saag
    As a geopolitical perspective, Leontief’s opinion is true.

    It’s just not clear why Michael rejoices then?
    US policy was conditioned (according to Leontiev) by oil interests. But the Saudis went nuts in the end and the United States got rid of its oil dependence.
    It turns out that the US has a free hand now, and the global "national interests" of the Americans do not end with oil. Power and control over the world is still at the forefront of the policy of global finance capital. So where are the future foreign policy victories of the Putin course?
    In the end, an generally interesting conclusion;
    That's exactly what we talked about. About the turn of Americans from marasmus to cynicism. This is a very positive trend. This is the necessary prerequisite for the current successes of Russian diplomacy.

    It turns out that the Russian leadership does not have any special merits in the field of foreign policy activity. It’s just that the United States has moved from idiotic insanity to sober cynicism. That is the reason.
    Only to us what is the use of this?
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 27 November 2013 09: 59
      0
      Quote: Normal
      It turns out that the Russian leadership does not have any special merits in the field of foreign policy activity. It’s just that the United States has moved from idiotic insanity to sober cynicism. That is the reason.
      Only to us what is the use of this?

      Yes, at least in the fact that you can work with cynics. he acts predictably, and with a senile armed to the teeth, negotiating is not particularly pleasant ..
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 27 November 2013 11: 00
        +2
        That's right, pleasantness has increased, yeah. That's just you will not be full of pleasure. The USA is our geopolitical adversary. And the fact that he began to be controlled several times smarter can only please, say, not too smart people. It’s very bad that the United States is no longer climbing around the world with a club, devouring bloody drooling on its chin.
        If you remember, the Soviet Union was destroyed not by languor, but by affection. Lovely smiles, tales of honey sweet capitalism, waved jeans in front of her face, they sang pleasantly to Estudey ... Think, would it be something like this if they had declared a no-fly zone over us? Here it is ...
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 28 November 2013 09: 45
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          And the fact that he began to be controlled several times smarter can only please, say, not too smart people.

          But don’t you, with whom are you better off dealing with an intelligent person pursuing your personal interests, even if they don’t coincide with yours, or with a scumbag who stupidly wants to rob you and who doesn’t give a damn?
          Quote: Mikhail3
          If you remember, the Soviet Union was destroyed not by languor, but by affection. Lovely smiles, tales of honey sweet capitalism,

          I agree, but to counter this was quite possible if it were not for some individuals at the head of state who allowed their own dissidents to pour dirt on their country and people.
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Think, something like this would turn out if they had declared a no-fly zone above us? Here it is ...

          So what? Half the world's population would disappear, what's next? Or do you think this is better than the collapse of the Union?
      2. Normal
        Normal 27 November 2013 11: 15
        +1
        Quote: DEfindER
        Yes, at least in the fact that you can work with cynics. he acts predictably, and with a senile armed to the teeth, negotiating is not particularly pleasant ..

        In politics, there is no concept of "nice" or "not nice".
        "Marasmatik" can be caught on his own insanity and used in their own interests. With a cold cynic, this number will not work.
        In general, I think that it is more profitable for Russia when the president in the United States is a straightforward, stupid republican with a clear anti-Russian position and rhetoric than a seemingly benevolent, but actually cynical, smart and cunning democrat.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 28 November 2013 09: 59
          0
          Quote: Normal
          "Marasmatik" can be caught on his own insanity and used in their own interests.

          It’s interesting how you can catch a terrorist who played the role of the United States, who ignored the UN, and started wars where they wanted, not to mention the support of al-Qaida, and all this to the detriment of their economy. If they were Cynics, they would never have dug a hole for themselves.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 November 2013 10: 03
      +3
      Quote: Normal
      It turns out that the Russian leadership does not have any special merits in the field of foreign policy activity. It’s just that the United States has moved from idiotic insanity to sober cynicism. That is the reason.
      Only to us what is the use of this?

      No special ...
      A kind of respite needed to revise the capabilities of each country. A sort of operational pause.
      1. Normal
        Normal 27 November 2013 10: 18
        0
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        No special ...
        A kind of respite needed to revise the capabilities of each country. A sort of operational pause.

        Well .... Maybe. Will we use it? what
  11. mitya24
    mitya24 27 November 2013 09: 31
    +3
    But Israel is not sorry for me. Yes, nothing special happened to him. But it’s time for the Saudis to touch the udder, accuse him of tricks with an Alkaeda to priere.
  12. mountain
    mountain 27 November 2013 09: 44
    0
    It seems that there’s no place to go down to America anymore, duck no breaks records. And, it is time for Israel to reconsider its priorities, otherwise it will remain around the corner.
    1. alone
      alone 27 November 2013 21: 15
      0
      )) Sooner, Sooner write off the Americans! No matter what, they are still strong enough to take them off the list of superpowers.
  13. Gerasim
    Gerasim 27 November 2013 10: 10
    0
    However, after Obama, Bush the Third, or McCain, will come to the White House.
    will return to square one! And pragmatism, and love, and the radical reversal of all modern world politics, which we have yet to observe for a long time.

    drinks
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 November 2013 10: 15
      +5
      Quote: Gerasim
      However, after Obama, Bush the Third, or McCain, will come to the White House.

      It doesn’t come, this last one and the point, they’re tired of choosing clowns already. And in general, why the White House is called the White House is racism of pure water. It's time to rename it Black and repaint it in FIG.
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 27 November 2013 10: 37
        +4
        Let me disagree with you: if you repaint it only in BLUE (well, in extreme cases, in rainbow), but in relation to LGBT people, well, it's not at all tolerant! Remember the frame from "Mimino": "... khazain, which calorie will be chosen ? "
  14. Grbear
    Grbear 27 November 2013 10: 13
    +2
    It’s time for Leontyev to decide who he is with. He is crying that the Central Bank is destroying Russia, now Israel regrets and affectionately states that the United States decided to change course. Yes, they were forced - and therefore spun.

    And why pity Israel. Of course, L. did not see the "conversation between two Jews" - Netanyahu and Posner. This is something (Posner even managed to negotiate for friends). But N. clearly outlined a position in which there is no place for a treaty with either the Arabs or with Russia, and that they reserve the "right" to everything. And not a word of Truth, all the time "departures" from the topic.

    And Leontyev, in my opinion, has something with bile that presses on his head.
    hi
  15. veteran56
    veteran56 27 November 2013 10: 40
    +2
    No need to look for difficulties - Obama just fulfills the Nobel Prize. I agree with Gerasim that when the color changes, the vector will also change.
  16. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 27 November 2013 11: 20
    +2
    Israel is definitely not a pity! If only Russia would do everything on time again. And then again flash flash!
  17. Migari
    Migari 27 November 2013 11: 46
    +1
    Quote: saag
    Cynics are the most sober-minded people, I think there isn’t enough cynicism in Ukraine now, solid romanticism :-)

    Romance is good - when the body and soul are full, there is a lack of common sense, it is easy to see what countries that have entered the Euro are experiencing now, the complete collapse of their own industry, ruin and unemployment. The role of poor relatives, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary, and in Greece EVERYTHING IS.
  18. IGS
    IGS 27 November 2013 11: 57
    +2
    Americans have neither romanticism nor insanity. Their plan was long-term and cynical enough, but failed. Russia has taken the wrong path, Russia has become a strong player in the international arena. And even worse, she made it clear to other players: "And the king is naked!" Further behavior of the United States in the same direction leads to the third world, and the US wars in the form that now may mature (world), oh how it does not want to. America needed the war, but it was distributed among local conflicts, and the ultimate goal was Russia, but weakened, and most importantly! weak-willed. Divide the country through minor conflicts (in which Russia would not dare to use Yao). I sometimes think that Afghanistan was needed as a springboard. But that's my opinion. I sometimes have a suspicion that they wanted to do the same with Russia as with Iraq. This is my guess but. Only instead of Kuwait Georgia. Yao Russia would not have used in this conflict. To weaken the first war without entering its territory, and the second ... But everything went wrong. And Russia did not enter Georgia, and the Americans themselves were frightened, and something tells me: They have no consensus now. They will now, of course, correct their policy, but they will not give up their goals, do not hope, they will not give up their plans for world domination, and they will not cease to consider themselves exceptional.
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 28 November 2013 05: 28
      0
      A very sober analysis of the situation as a whole! Thank you, the only thing about Yao was that I didn’t think the rest and always understood that - tearing apart and subordinating is the main goal!
  19. sashka
    sashka 27 November 2013 11: 58
    +2
    It is necessary to build a "Wailing Wall" in each country. And then check where they hit their heads more against the Wall. This is a REAL survey of the population .. and the Levada Center is not even close here ..
  20. Plato
    Plato 27 November 2013 12: 26
    +3
    The Americans will abandon the Saudis and they will tear to pieces.
    And it is likely that the US rejection of carbon will finish the Russian Federation.
    Since the Putin team is now doing nothing to revive the country's economy, and their followers, having neither money, nor specialist scientists, nor a scientific and industrial base, will not be able to do anything
  21. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 27 November 2013 12: 30
    +1
    A wonderful thought sounded:
    U-turn from senility to cynicism
    But where will the senility go? Although cynics, then cynics, to cynically remove everything from the road.
    In a word, a positive conclusion, it is easier to deal with cynics, they are predictable.
  22. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 27 November 2013 12: 58
    0
    Iran’s refusal of nuclear weapons is beneficial to us three times. Not only is the threat eliminated directly to us, but Iran automatically goes under our geopolitical influence. Since he will never give up claims to leadership in the Muslim world, and to oppose Saudi Arabia and Qatar, he will need our weapons, our technologies, our political support, and so on. It is quite possible that Iran will join the CU and the CSTO with all the ensuing consequences.
    1. sashka
      sashka 29 November 2013 12: 16
      0
      Quote: Jurkovs
      Iran’s renunciation of nuclear weapons thrice beneficial to us

      What? Reduced oil prices? And our legs and brains are growing from the oil needle. What are the benefits?
  23. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 27 November 2013 13: 07
    +1
    Americos is just like a political prostitute
  24. individual
    individual 27 November 2013 13: 31
    +2
    The extreme radicals of Islam are the Sunnis of Saudi Arabia and the same radicals, but the Shiites of Iran are at war because of the difference in reading of the Koran.
    Sunnis consider themselves followers of the Prophet Muhammad, and Shiites are the only legitimate heirs and spiritual successors of the Prophet Muhammad.
    What makes them different can be understood.
    Christianity was also split over the concepts of reading the Bible.
    What side did Israel and Saudi Arabia join in countering Iran?
    Explanation one "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
    This alliance is temporary, since each has its own historical and ideological interests.
  25. UmaR
    UmaR 27 November 2013 13: 39
    -1
    Quote: The Saudis are unlikely to help, but Israel is sorry, but I do not feel sorry for the wrong ones, they feel sorry for someone but themselves, so why should they be spared.
  26. Semurg
    Semurg 27 November 2013 14: 24
    +3
    What threatens Israel and the SA in my opinion is nothing. Iran will not go to war with Israel and the SA, and there are no other neighbors who are ready for war. Well, the role in the international arena may decrease, but it does not kill the state. And in terms of living, both of them live better than us, so who should have pity on whom?
  27. ed65b
    ed65b 27 November 2013 15: 54
    +1
    By destroying the Saudis, the United States will make a great gift to the world. Wahhabism’s nest will be trampled into dust and the adherents of this movement will come to their historical state, namely to baboons.
  28. Erector
    Erector 27 November 2013 16: 05
    0
    No need to feel sorry for Israel ...! At least he doesn't need this pity! It will be able to stand up for itself, which it does repeatedly every second of its existence ... The alliance between Israel and the Saudis cannot be called an alliance, but only a possible tactical necessity that will never be secured by any treaty! The notorious Molotov-Ribentrop pact was much more a concrete alliance of two aggressors surrounded by no less aggressive neighbors. What won the World from this piece of paper signed between what we call "Civilized World" (although the language does not always turn to accept this empty phrase) and the cannibalistic regime of Iran - time will tell ... between Shiites and Sunnis is gaining momentum! Perhaps, as always, the "world Jewish conspiracy" will be blamed for this war - this is normal and has ceased to cause any emotions other than sadness about the mental state of opponents! Russia, having received its Atomic Neighbor in its "underbelly" in the south of the country, is unlikely to be moved and trust his good intentions ... Look at the development of Iran's Caspian Fleet and the problems that are growing there between Russia and Iran .., much will not be as pleasant as I would like to ... The choice, as always, has to be made between disgusting and very bad! Advanced technologies (Israel) cannot be a guarantee in an asymmetric aggressive war that Islamists unleash against us of all colors ... In the same way, huge territories (RUSSIA) will not help in the creeping expansion of our COMMON enemy! I would very much like to be on one side of the barricades! And as they say - time will tell!
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 27 November 2013 22: 25
      +1
      Carrier, do not drive horses. Iran and Russia have much less problems than Russia and the same Georgia or Ukraine. Iran is a threat to Azerbaijan there is difficult. And the enemy we have is GENERAL as you put it Wahhabism and it has nothing to do with Iran.
      1. Erector
        Erector 28 November 2013 16: 50
        0
        Iran and Russia have much fewer problems than there are any problems in the world at all ... I agree with this ... as for Ukraine and Georgia, there shouldn’t be any problems there if there is a will for a fair coexistence of fraternal and friendly centuries each other peoples! Or do you have a desire to record Georgians and Ukrainians in another category ... ???? Well, if this is the case, then the situation with Iran is really unstable .. after all, we just managed to avoid the international arbitration court against the very billion-dollar claims of Bratsk Iran to Russia ... it’s clear that all this is nonsense ... and little things, but them (in the little things), it is possible to discern what is not on display - these are wolf ears sticking out from under the grandmother’s cap ... It's time to EMELY wake up on the stove ...!
    2. goldfinger
      goldfinger 28 November 2013 01: 31
      0
      Quote: Emery
      Advanced technologies (of Israel) cannot be a guarantee in an asymmetric aggressive war, which the Islamists unleash against us of all divisions ... In the same way, vast territories (RUSSIA) will not help in the creeping expansion of our common enemy! I'd love to be on one side of the barricades! And as they say - time will tell!

      I support Israel. There live real Jews. They are the only ones who have taken the side of Russia over the CTO in Chechnya.
      Not like your demshiz.
      Inflation in Iran rose to 40%, oil exports fell by 60%, the number of unemployed amounted to 3 million, products such as rice, vegetable meat, chickens became luxury goods, and according to polls, 5% of Iranians feel the impact of sanctions.

      Putin’s policy of drawing Iran into conflict with the United States and the European Union has already led to a budget crisis in Russia. Amid the embargo, China is buying up all Iranian oil at a price of 12-25% of the world price. This allows China to twist the arms of Russia. China pays no more than 50-60% of the world price for Russian oil and gas.

      In the article BLACK SOUL OF RUSSIA on the site "Satire and Life" watch the latest video of Mikhail Leontyev - hysterics in the Kremlin. The case, after all, smells of kerosene, both literally and figuratively. What and when directly threatens with a sharp drop in the monetary volume of Russian oil and gas exports:

      1. Exports from the USA. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.
      2. The growth of Iraqi exports to the level of Saudi Arabia. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.
      3. The growth of Libyan exports. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.
      4. A sharp increase in the supply of liquefied natural gas from Australia. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.
      5. The victorious war of the United States and NATO in Syria and the subsequent massive construction of oil and gas pipelines on its territory for Qatar, Iraq and Iran. The same will happen if Bashar al-Assad is completely victorious, who 2 months before the start of the rebellion has already signed the Four Seas program. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.
      (Moscow took 2 months to deploy Al-Qaeda in Syria, including the transfer of thousands of Al-Qaeda soldiers and commanders trained in Chechnya to Syria.)
      6. A coup in Iran (revolution or a reversal in the policy of reconciliation with the United States and Europe) and a sharp increase in Iranian exports. The deployment period is 2-3-5 years.

      The implementation of at least 3 of these 6 scenarios guarantees the repetition of the 1998 crisis in Russia, the collapse of the ruble, hyperinflation and the loss of power by Putin.
  29. family tree
    family tree 27 November 2013 21: 18
    +4
    The United States, the world's largest hydrocarbon consumer, has now completely stopped gas imports and is rapidly cutting oil imports. According to President Obama, by 2020, the United States will become the largest exporter of hydrocarbons.
    what What is it? "British scientists have discovered" (c) that oil and gas are renewable resources? Well, sorcerers, however request
    And Israel is sorry.
    Oh, they didn’t crawl out of such a derm with profit, but
    sorry for the bee in the ass
    1. Nikolay D.
      Nikolay D. 27 November 2013 23: 04
      +2
      Quote: perepilka
      Well, sorcerers, however


      Ordinary thimblers, the peak of production was passed back in the 20th century, now production is only falling, and the price is only growing, so they decided to "take suckers on the show," they say, the oil has no value, that's why they shout about the shale revolution, then thorium. And somehow everyone forgets that oil is also polymers, there is even a petrochemical industry. And now the question: "Who is the largest consumer of oil, and who benefits from lower prices for it?" We draw conclusions.
      The 21st century is the century of the struggle for resources.
  30. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 28 November 2013 00: 12
    0
    Americans have always been cynical. I don’t believe that they become "sane cynics." All this mud about the rapprochement between Iran and the West looks more like the Munich Agreement. I will not be surprised if Iran surrenders Syria for the promised money. And then he will be blown away. Theirs new president (Iranian) resembles Humpback. Tries to create "Islam with a human face". We've seen this before. I don't like all this.