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America remains in Afghanistan: 9 fortresses will be built in the "heart of future chaos"

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US troops will remain in Afghanistan after the 2014 year. We have already written that, despite the promise made by US President B. Obama to the Americans, 9 new military bases are being built in Afghanistan. So, they will be a military contingent.


The so-called “Security Cooperation Agreement between the US and Afghanistan” is being prepared. It will allow American troops and their allies to remain in Afghanistan after the 2014 year. In this case, it will be formally possible to declare a "victory" and the withdrawal of troops, so that the US President does not look like a deceiver. But the wording “security cooperation” will save the face of the American administration.

However, the agreement is necessary for the Americans not “someday”, but right now. Earlier, Afghan President Hamid Karzai was ready to sign such an agreement after the elections, which are scheduled for April 5 on 2014. And it would be quite logical.

But now we are talking about a quick signing. Now the Americans began to insist on signing the document until the end of the year, that is, within a month. For this, the All-Afghan Council of Elders, the Loya Jirga, was even specially convened. This is an irregular council of representatives of the Afghan tribes (something like our Zemsky Sobor), which has no formal legislative power and is only going to discuss the most important, crucial issues. So, the last time the Loya Jirga met in 2002 – 2004 for adopting a constitution. Now, the main purpose of the convocation was precisely the approval of the agreement with the Americans. On November 24, the chairman of the Loya Jirga Sebgatulla Mojaddedi reported that all the demands of the Afghan people are met and there is no reason to delay the signing.

Why such a hurry? Why not wait for the election? Moreover, Hamid Karzai himself seems to see no reason for haste. On November 25, he again declared that first open elections should be held, progress in negotiations with the Taliban should be made and the Americans should not be allowed to raid Afghans' homes.

It should be said here that the Americans themselves have long been negotiating with the Taliban, bypassing the official Kabul government. In March, after negotiations in Qatar, Karzai accused the United States of a separate deal with the Taliban. In July, he again repeated the charges at a special press conference. Indeed, if the United States plans to maintain its military presence in Afghanistan, then it will be difficult to do this without the “permission” of the Taliban, because the present authorities of Afghanistan cannot resist without American support. This means that the accusation of Karzai is just and the Americans have already betrayed their ally, discussing the future of Afghanistan with its enemies.

The only explanation for the rush of Americans to sign an agreement that legally allows them to stay should be considered a chance of not having time. Only if the United States is not sure that after the elections in April 2014 will sign such an agreement with anyone, does it make sense for them to hurry. It will not be very convenient for Americans to sign an agreement with the Taliban, because in this case they will have to admit that the world hegemon has lost the war. And it's not a fact that the victorious Taliban will sign such an agreement, even if they now promise not to touch the Americans after their victory. And that means you need to hurry while the current Afghan government is still firmly on its feet. While there is someone to sign.

From all of this suggests a not very optimistic conclusion. In the near future, the situation in Afghanistan may seriously deteriorate. And this means that the wave of chaos comes close to the borders of our Central Asia. And in the heart of the hearth of this regional nightmare, as always, there will be a military contingent of the United States and its allies. It will not be too big. Representatives of NATO say about 15 000 people. This is not a force that can hold back or ensure the notorious "stability". However, it is already clear that the “stability” of Afghanistan was hardly originally the goal of NATO. Afghanistan is the heart of Eurasia. And the processes taking place there affect the entire region. And what is this influence depends on those forces that for some reason are not in a hurry to leave this long-suffering country.
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  1. makarov
    makarov 27 November 2013 07: 48
    0
    And where should they go now (?), Have invested heaps of money, piled heaps of "shit", let them now eat them themselves. Everything is natural.
    1. Orel
      Orel 27 November 2013 07: 54
      +2
      9 new military bases under construction in Afghanistan


      Everything is clear, a moat with water, suspension bridges, minefields in a circle in a radius of 10 km. and tablets around the perimeter that all living things are within a radius of 20 km. from bases to be destroyed without warning. The Americans will sit at these bases and not protrude, they will not be bothered, but will share power and influence among themselves. The Americans will build 9 reservations for themselves in Afghanistan, for themselves, as for the Indians ...
      1. Burbulator
        Burbulator 27 November 2013 08: 24
        +6
        They will fly on turntables, UAVs will operate, unit raids - all this will be.
        1. Canep
          Canep 27 November 2013 10: 25
          +9
          Quote: Burbulator
          They will fly on turntables, UAVs will operate, unit raids - all this will be.

          Of course it will be. Dope plantations need to be protected:
          1. AVV
            AVV 27 November 2013 11: 47
            0
            It’s necessary to transport all this nonsense to America !!!
            1. Heccrbq.3
              Heccrbq.3 27 November 2013 13: 48
              +4
              General, you don’t know that this nonsense is being sent straight to Russia?
              1. Passer
                Passer 27 November 2013 21: 07
                0
                The Cold War is not over yet, and in war all means are good. And the more our people get rid of the "white powder", the better for the "strategic interests" of the United States.
            2. alone
              alone 27 November 2013 19: 35
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              Quote: AVV
              It’s necessary to transport all this nonsense to America !!!

              belay why such a long journey !! all the nonsense can be driven along the route SA-Russia!
              in America there is someone to drag nonsense!
            3. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 27 November 2013 22: 53
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              Quote: AVV
              It’s necessary to transport all this nonsense to America !!!


              It’s just that Mexicans have a headache that hurts like a gloomy one from Agana to the states to drive ... bypassing our territory naturally laughing
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 27 November 2013 13: 18
            +3
            Quote: Canep
            Dope plantations need to be protected:

            Bases (fortresses) are essentially now and will in the future be warehouses of products and seed material.
            Some produce in the right quantity and quality.
            Second transport, marketing and provide elimination of competitors.
            It will take long for these businessmen to go "hand in hand".
            Afghanistan is the heart of Eurasia.
            Well, at least I didn’t call the navel earthly and that’s good.
            They grasp the liberals' habits of giving sonorous names and loud definitions and begin to throw in all directions. wassat
        2. LaGlobal
          LaGlobal 27 November 2013 10: 34
          +1
          Quote: Burbulator
          They’ll fly on turntables, UAVs will operate, unit raids - all this will be


          training ground, so to speak = (
        3. Heccrbq.3
          Heccrbq.3 27 November 2013 13: 45
          -1
          The raids are vryatli, they’re not the Yankees, it’s not our special forces or reconnaissance of the airborne forces.
      2. JonnyT
        JonnyT 27 November 2013 09: 26
        +7
        And the supply columns will destroy the Taliban! They (the Taliban) can promise the Amers anything, but they don’t have a central authority, each prince will defend the interests of his clan, so it will not be sweet for the Amers ....... they will sit in their forts, hungry, without coca cola. But long-standing ties with the Taliban, the general drug business, arms supplies for al-Qaeda, all this says that these 9 bases are nothing more than the deployment of a bridgehead for exporting instability to Central Asia .... quiet expansion. The militants will be trained in these bases, the opposition of the Central Asian countries, intelligence information will be concentrated and processed. In short, they will be dirty to the fullest. The most important thing is that the Americans will have nothing to do with, all the dirty work will be done by half-starving thugs for 10 bucks. And America has nothing to do with it, it maintains stability in Afghanistan
      3. MBA78
        MBA78 27 November 2013 10: 49
        +1
        the transition from the offensive phase to the defense phase is the first sign of loss ... 9 bases are few ... lose
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 27 November 2013 11: 44
          +1
          Quote: MBA78
          the transition from the offensive phase to the defense phase is the first sign of loss ... 9 bases are few ... lose


          This is a temporary respite. It’s far from losing.
        2. Migari
          Migari 27 November 2013 15: 46
          +1
          Military experts acknowledge that there will be no turning point in the war in favor of coalition forces. Lose in all positions. And the weapons turned out to be not as precise as they are: they hit hundreds and hundreds of peaceful Afghans, burned their villages. What raises the whole Islamic world against invaders.
          1. max702
            max702 27 November 2013 16: 24
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            In such wars, victory can bring only total genocide of the population, everything else maneuvers .. namely, the protection and production of dope with the subsequent sending to Russia and the EU, the trainer in the combat conditions of his troops, the development of tactics, the testing of equipment and equipment, but it will cost a lot of money but printed the machine works without failures. And the advantages are that the troops are becoming less combat-ready (look for how many soldiers have been to Afghanistan since 2001), there have been radical changes in the tactics of the troops during counter-guerrilla operations, the uniform and equipment have been changed, new types of weapons and equipment have been introduced, as well as the presence of the military in one of the key regions of Central Asia, and how many people in Russia didn’t count on heroin and that’s all the water to the enemy’s mill. So after the statements about the withdrawal of troops from Aganistan, they all recounted a new one, and came to the conclusion that the operation justifies itself therefore it must be continued.
    2. Skiff
      Skiff 27 November 2013 09: 06
      +1
      Well, 15000 is enough to continue to boil heroin and control its sale ... After all, the crap did not stink or even smell.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 27 November 2013 22: 52
      0
      Quote: makarov
      And where should they go now (?), Have invested heaps of money, piled heaps of "shit", let them now eat them themselves. Everything is natural.


      It was necessary to think where to invest money! Now nefig otmazy sculpt type money sorry. She always gives a bad head to her feet! Now let them lay another 15000 to their people.

      My opinion is pure: Taliban comrades, it’s time for you to issue a fatwa saying that the killing of an American soldier is a direct road to Guriyam’s paradise, etc. etc.
  2. saag
    saag 27 November 2013 08: 42
    +4
    and the Taliban, like in the movies, will periodically storm these fortresses on motorcycles, buggies with flamethrowers and other gantraks :-)
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 27 November 2013 09: 15
      +1
      they will storm the support columns! bully
  3. biglow
    biglow 27 November 2013 08: 49
    +2
    Americans follow the path of the Romans, while the empire left the provinces, they also left forts in the previously conquered territories, but the savages united and destroyed such forts to the ground, the same will be in Afghanistan, we still see an epic escape from such fortresses ...
    1. duke
      duke 27 November 2013 09: 55
      +1
      I do not think, because the Romans did not have aviation, incl. helicopters, combat drones, armored vehicles, long-range artillery, AGS, mining systems, modern systems: control, space communications, detection, tracking, guidance, modern rear support schemes, etc. and so on. So they can hold the perimeter and fill the Taliban with stacks, if that suddenly. I think they have just calculated everything for a long time, played on supercomputers and selected the most optimal places for such fortresses. In the case of large-scale operations, the bombing of the enemy, the transfer of reinforcements from overseas bases, or even from the United States itself, has long been worked out. In addition, I believe that at this stage, it is still beneficial for us to keep the Americans there, attracting forces and all the negative, because very few people decide to act on 2 fronts, leaving behind such powerful bases in the rear, otherwise we will have to build such outposts ourselves, but already in Tajikistan ... but is it necessary? Russia is still not the USSR ...
      1. biglow
        biglow 27 November 2013 15: 29
        +1
        Quote: duke
        I do not think, because the Romans did not have aviation, incl. helicopters, combat drones, armored vehicles, long-range artillery, AGS, mining systems, modern systems: control, space communications, detection, tracking, guidance, modern rear support schemes, etc. and so on. So they can hold the perimeter and fill the Taliban with stacks, if that suddenly. I think they have just calculated everything for a long time, played on supercomputers and selected the most optimal places for such fortresses. In the case of large-scale operations, the bombing of the enemy, the transfer of reinforcements from overseas bases, or even from the United States itself, has long been worked out. In addition, I believe that at this stage, it is still beneficial for us to keep the Americans there, attracting forces and all the negative, because very few people decide to act on 2 fronts, leaving behind such powerful bases in the rear, otherwise we will have to build such outposts ourselves, but already in Tajikistan ... but is it necessary? Russia is still not the USSR ...

        crowds of Taliban with MANPADS can make these bases inaccessible to any helicopters ... and a crowd of suicide bombers tied with mines can break gaps in any minefields ... and while the rescue team arrives at Pakistan, there will be no one to save ....
        1. duke
          duke 27 November 2013 22: 26
          0
          with your lips, I don’t think this will work, but fantasies ....
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 27 November 2013 08: 59
    +2
    It would be strange if the weed voluntarily got out of the garden with potatoes (in this particular case - with poppy seeds)
  5. Free Island
    Free Island 27 November 2013 09: 04
    +2
    The United States will remain in Afghanistan :))) it was not in doubt! how can the owner leave their plantations with drugs unattended)))))) and apparently over the years they have not managed to establish stable drug trafficking in Eurasia ..... deliveries are intermittent, which means that the loot swollen to send bandits in Afghanistan did not pay off. Will have to work more
  6. ed65b
    ed65b 27 November 2013 09: 14
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    I don’t think that when the Taliban come to power, they will abide by the agreements signed by the USA with Karzai, for them these papers will only be wiped off. And where are the bases built if in the areas where opiates are concentrated, then everything is clear, daddy drew them there. Mafia laughing
  7. lotar
    lotar 27 November 2013 09: 17
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    As mentioned earlier, destabilization in the East is very beneficial for the United States, since this, firstly, will divert people's attention from problems in their own country, secondly, some will be able to make big money on this, and thirdly, against the background of all these expected events, a lot can be done unnoticed , critically substituting their allies so that they immediately ask for help. In general, there are many factors that are known to the whole world and used by "guarantors" of security.
    1. duke
      duke 27 November 2013 10: 04
      +3
      In addition, nearby China, India, Russia, Pakistan. They cannot allow the Chinese to come, it is clear that the Russians will not come, and the Chinese are very active, because the territory is strategically advantageous. The Afghan government is already flirting with might and main with India so that they feed them, instead of the USSR, apparently understand that you can’t get much from Americans, except for promises.
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 27 November 2013 11: 53
        0
        And everyone has problem areas near by. There is where to roam.
  8. avt
    avt 27 November 2013 10: 10
    +1
    request Well, where are the convinced supporters who piously believe in the promises of the "withdrawal" of troops in the 14th year? laughing Not, of course, you can say that these are regular, like in Iraq, diplomats with a gun, and not at all regular units. In general, we have finished talking with Afgan, we are waiting for news on the “closure” of the base in Kyrgyzstan. Well, there you see, and "democratic" need in Aktau is quite formed and justified. Well, what can not be done for "the triumph of democracy."
  9. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 27 November 2013 11: 12
    +2
    Afghanistan is the heart of Central Asia, a strategically very important area. It is convenient to get to China and the Russian Federation. The bases will enjoy the right of ex-territoriality, which means that here you can place anything that your heart desires. So far, these are light forces, and in a threatened period, missiles can also be thrown. So the threat from this direction is increasing. In general, it seems that they are embracing from all sides. Apparently, in fact, they will bury themselves in Siberia. Indeed, according to the predictions of the USA, the seismic-planetary kirdyk will come soon. So they are prepared in advance.
  10. sergant89
    sergant89 27 November 2013 11: 56
    +3
    Upset another thing, look at the photo, these are ordinary soldiers and the equipment and ammunition as our specialists have, and you don’t need to shout that we will roll them out without them, roll them out without question yes but how many this amunyaga can save lives. : soldier
    PS will have to use trophies as usual laughing
    1. Srgsoap
      Srgsoap 27 November 2013 17: 50
      0
      I support you. As for the ammunition .... you're right ... And at the expense of trophies ... depending on what ... you can’t just put sights and other body kit on our AK ...
  11. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 27 November 2013 12: 09
    0
    If they go somewhere, then as a rule they stay for a long time.
  12. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 27 November 2013 12: 39
    +1
    Plantations of drugs and their processing plants will be guarded.
  13. propolsky
    propolsky 27 November 2013 16: 52
    0
    This is where you need to pull the barbed wire, and not on the border with Ukraine!
  14. Peter76
    Peter76 27 November 2013 19: 33
    0
    The borders of Russia need to be strengthened and the access regime tightened, so that all the nonsense of the house settles.
  15. moskal68
    moskal68 27 November 2013 19: 34
    0
    Bomb Amers, and Afghanistan for one!
  16. zvereok
    zvereok 27 November 2013 22: 05
    0
    In us, and need to plantation drugs burn. We don’t have anything against amers, but the preventive strikes that the Americans invented on poppies are a holy cause. A amykos hungry peasant will lift the pitchfork.
  17. Lesnik
    Lesnik 28 November 2013 00: 29
    0
    According to the article plus. And the situation will develop like the French in Indochina and with the same logical result. And then this situation will be a headache in the first place of Russia.