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Russian Navy received the first MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB fighters

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The first four serial ship fighter MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB delivered to the Naval the fleet Russia, according to the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

"Corporation" MiG "transferred to the Navy two single MiG-29K and two double MiG-XNUMHKUB", - clarified the military department, ITAR-TASS.

“During 2014 and 2015, we expect to receive another 20 MiG-29K / KUB to replenish the aircraft fleet of the ship’s regiment”


According to the representative of the Navy, fighters are included in the ship aviation Northern Fleet and will be used on the aircraft carrier cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" along with carrier-based heavy fighters Su-33 and attack aircraft Su-25UTG.

“During 2014 and 2015, we expect to receive another 20 MiG-29K / KUB to replenish the aircraft fleet of the ship’s regiment. They will also not come to replace Su-type vehicles, but will be used with them, ”the Navy representative said.

“The training of pilots for MiG-29K / KUB carrier-based aircraft is being conducted at the Center for Combat Use and Retraining of Flight Personnel in Yeisk (Krasnodar Territory),” he added. and will be the groundwork for the future development of its ship component ".

As the Chief of Naval Aviation of the Navy, Hero of Russia Major General Igor Kozhin, in turn, reported, in February 2012 of the Ministry of Defense and RSK MiG OJSC signed a contract for the supply of 2015 MiG-24K and MiG-29KUB fighter to 29, Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy.

Aircraft defense orders are issued in a new technical face that meets the requirements of the military department. The first flight of the MiG-29KUB serial fighter built by the state defense order took place in October 2013. Adopted aircraft will come into service of naval aviation of the Northern Fleet.

MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB are multifunctional airplanes of the “4 two plus” generation designed for solving air defense tasks of ship formations, gaining air superiority, defeating surface and ground targets with controlled precision weapons day and night in all weather conditions. They have an improved airframe with a high proportion of composite materials, a digital integrated electrical wired control system with fourfold redundancy, a significantly reduced visibility in the radar range, an increased fuel system capacity and combat load, an open architecture of onboard radio-electronic equipment.

The first flight of an experienced MiG-29KUB fighter took place in January 2007. In 2009, MiG-29K / KUB aircraft successfully completed a series of test flights from the deck of the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser “Admiral of the Soviet Navy N.G. Kuznetsov.

Note that earlier 45 deck fighters MiG-29K / KUB contracted and partially received the Indian Navy. In addition, the country planned to buy additional 20-24 deck fighters of this type.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 08: 02
    20
    Who wrote to me here that the supply of new MIGs has been written with a pitchfork on water ??? Hello
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 26 November 2013 08: 04
      +9
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Who wrote to me here that the supply of new MIGs has been written with a pitchfork on water ??? Hello

      Now polymers say they won’t put anything else
      1. 31231
        31231 26 November 2013 08: 20
        +7
        They will say that Kuzya is not repaired or modernized.
        1. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 26 November 2013 15: 06
          -1
          Kuzya, after modernization in 2020, will have a YSU. And with a dozen available US and French Charles de Gaulle with YSU for a long time. So rejoice.
      2. KOH
        KOH 26 November 2013 10: 43
        +3
        Ahhhh .... This is amateurs for whining wrote probably ... laughing
        1. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 26 November 2013 15: 10
          0
          You can with joyful exclamations, a lot of fun, but recognize NATO’s superiority in forces as a fact. With our huge potential, with our legendary design bureaus - we are in the ass.
          1. 31231
            31231 26 November 2013 19: 47
            0
            Sprinkle your head with ash? or Katz offers to give up?

            Lady, you need to start small, and not bliss on the Maidans, "It's all fucked up!"
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 26 November 2013 08: 15
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Who wrote to me here that the supply of new MIGs has been written with a pitchfork on water ???

      Hello Sasha! So pissano same laughing !
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 08: 20
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        So pissano is

        Hello Vit! Yes, I forgot my nickname, there was a topic about three days ago, that soon a new contract would be signed with Mig, so I ... request
        1. Llirik
          Llirik 26 November 2013 09: 14
          +2
          Hello everyone. I wrote in the comments to the interview with the Air Force Commander: http://topwar.ru/36221-kursom-zdravogo-smysla.html#comment-id-1697756

          And this news is just some kind of holiday! .. wink
          There would be more volumes
    3. evgenii67
      evgenii67 26 November 2013 09: 08
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Who wrote to me here that the supply of new MIGs has been written with a pitchfork on water ??? Hello

      Greetings, Alexander! Apparently -It was me !! Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And what, the last couple of years, planes have not arrived, contracts have not been concluded, huh?
      To which I replied:
      They conclude and deliver (I would like more in terms of volumes), but I'm embarrassed to ask, when was the last time new MiGs were delivered? and whether they will deliver in the future, the question is .... but what they write "maybe" is not a reason to shout. Maybe Russia will win the Olympics; maybe Russia will win the FIFA World Cup, although maybe it will only leave the group; maybe when I get old I will receive a normal pension ... Well, thank God the words with deeds did not diverge.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 09: 14
        +3
        Quote: evgenii67
        ! Apparently -It was me !!

        Hi, Eugene! It was exactly, but for the sake of truth, I must say that we are waiting for the contract for the MiG 35.
        Quote: evgenii67
        Well, thank God the words with deeds did not diverge.

        Well FOR ... drinks
    4. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 26 November 2013 09: 28
      -19 qualifying.
      What is the 4 3 generation fighter? You yourself are not funny? Now it is necessary to deliver fighter aircraft of the 5 generation in droves, and we have such an achievement - already the whole 4 pieces of the 3 generation were delivered to the fleet! But, of course, this is a breakthrough in comparison with previous years. There is no arguing.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 26 November 2013 09: 43
        +5
        Well, why is it so inept at trolling this news? Firstly, these are 4 ++ generation airplanes, and secondly 24 pieces are not born right away, but are produced gradually, first 4, then another 4 and eventually there will be 24.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 10: 25
          +5
          Quote: Dangerous
          Well, why is it so inept at trolling this news?

          Yes, because the troll, that’s the troll.
        2. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 26 November 2013 14: 46
          -2
          Do we have enough time to wait for such a result when the United States already has 75-85? What is 4 vs 80? We urgently need to build new aircraft carriers, organize mass production of ship fighters, and not grind with our tongues, that everything is so cool here.
        3. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 26 November 2013 16: 35
          0
          Yes, 4 ++, but this does not change the essence. We supply 30 units to Gorshkov in India. Myself on Kuznetsov leave 4. Although the project it is equipped with 26 MIG-29K. A total of 50 airplanes. This is normal, do you think? Is there reason for optimism?
    5. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 26 November 2013 10: 25
      +1
      Not so fast but moving in the right direction ...
      1. Valkyrie
        Valkyrie 26 November 2013 14: 56
        +1
        Not "not so fast", but just marking time in one place, which is inadmissible.
    6. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 26 November 2013 10: 59
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Who wrote to me here that the supply of new MIGs has been written with a pitchfork on water ??? Hello

      It was like talking about the Mig-35 for the Air Force.
      In autumn 2012, MiG CEO Sergey Korotkov announced that deliveries of new MiG-35 multi-role fighters of the Russian Air Force will begin in 2014. In April 2013, during the “direct line”, Russian President Vladimir Putin also promised the imminent start of the entry of the MiG-35 into the troops.
      The fate of the promising fighter became more certain in June this year, when Korotkov announced a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply of 24 MiG-35s. According to the CEO of MiG, an agreement on the transfer of combat aircraft to the Russian Air Force can be signed in June-July 2013.

      Nowhere is there data on the signing of this contract.
      And these ship Migi under the contract of February 2, 2012.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 11: 07
        0
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        It was like talking about the Mig-35 for the Air Force.

        Read my comments above hi
    7. aleshka1987
      aleshka1987 26 November 2013 11: 06
      -3
      New MIGs, isn't that a MIG-35?
      1. VAF
        VAF 26 November 2013 14: 45
        +5
        Quote: aleshka1987
        New MIGs, isn't that a MIG-35?


        Actually, no, because K / KUB is a blighted version of M / M2, although in the light of the extreme statements of Korotkov-M / M2 this is the Mig-35 for the Air Force, before there was a desire to designate it as the Mig-35M (with Zhuk-M), but with APFAR it would be already a real MiG-35 (well, with all sorts of glider, wing and keel "gadgets").
        Now they "ride" on the M2 "Zhuk-AE", but on the further ... so far only "conversations" request
        1. iwind
          iwind 26 November 2013 16: 19
          +1
          Good afternoon!
          Correctly, I understand that initially the MIG - 35 should be like that? And if at least the probability that they will bring to mass production?
          1. VAF
            VAF 26 November 2013 19: 43
            +2
            Quote: iwind
            Correctly, I understand that initially the MIG - 35 should be like that?


            Absolutely +! drinks

            Quote: iwind
            And if at least the probability that they will bring to mass production?


            Hope more .. there is!
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 26 November 2013 16: 30
          0
          If the "Beetle" has not yet passed the larval stage, then what is the conversation about? Build 4-5 squadrons of MiG-35 and then completely enumerate them, as is supposed with another 35, which F? But Poghosyan is to blame, yes.
    8. Su24
      Su24 26 November 2013 21: 17
      0
      “During 2014 and 2015, we expect to receive another 20 MiG-29K / KUB to replenish the aircraft fleet of the ship’s regiment. They will also not come to replace Su-type vehicles, but will be used with them, ”the Navy representative said.


      I do not understand, will be upgraded Su-33? I have not heard about this.
  2. andru_007
    andru_007 26 November 2013 08: 24
    +1
    Positive news! The Kuzi air wing is being strengthened, the Vikramaditya, albeit with a sin in the sexes, has been completed (gained invaluable experience). I think after the Kuzi overhaul and for the new aircraft carrier I hope they will start. Not shaky, not shaky, but the process is underway!
  3. patriot2
    patriot2 26 November 2013 08: 26
    +2
    drinks With replenishment! smile
  4. Marconi41
    Marconi41 26 November 2013 08: 30
    +2
    I understand this Mig without OVT? If so, why? In general, it’s nice that they did not forget about MIG.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 26 November 2013 09: 24
      0
      It’s simpler and more durable, and the motor with OVT, apparently, is simply underestimated due to small volumes of orders.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 November 2013 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: Marconi41
      I understand this Mig without OVT? If so, why? In general, it’s nice that they did not forget about MIG.

      OKB MiG does not deal with this contract as an elephant shot, and for KB it’s death.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 November 2013 16: 31
        0
        Given similar machines there is not such a small series.
  5. haralaan
    haralaan 26 November 2013 08: 34
    -1
    Well done Navy and further build up the military power of Russia. Respect to our Minister of Defense S. Shoigu. I would like to see how the MIG29K deals with F35 Lightning.
    1. Apollo
      26 November 2013 08: 43
      +4
      Good morning everybody hi

      citation-The first four serial ship fighters MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB delivered to the Russian Navy, the press service of the Ministry of Defense said.
    2. Slon1978
      Slon1978 26 November 2013 09: 04
      +1
      Sadly, but the MiG-29 is a very average aircraft in terms of combat capabilities. The statistics of his combat losses in various conflicts shows this. Not bad - no, but not outstanding, like the Su-35. Therefore, talk about "cracking down" with someone, and even more so with the F-35 with all its known disadvantages - nevertheless IMHO smells like a hat, to put it mildly ... For the MiG-29, a suitable opponent is the F-16 and F-18 without any technical advantage, when the outcome will be decided solely by the skill of the pilot or quantitative superiority in each specific situation.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 09: 18
        +5
        Quote: Slon1978
        Sadly, the Mig-29 aircraft is quite average in terms of combat capabilities.

        Sergey VAF will come to the scribe to read your koment. Let him laugh, raise his spirits.
        Quote: Slon1978
        .. For Mig-29 a suitable rival of F-16 and F-18, and even without any technical advantage,

        MiG 29 is superior to A 16 in all respects, I’ll ask VAF about A 18. By the way, from 50 training battles between MiG 29 and F 16, score 49-1 in favor of MiG hi
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 26 November 2013 16: 38
          +1
          For F / A-18, in comparison with F-16, there was an article by Bulat; the conclusion for F-16 is sad. The MiG-29 of the early 9-12 and 9-13 series has just a shamefully small fuel supply and in this regard it is really overweight, a kind of twin-engine MiG-21. The problem is solved on the MiG-29M and newer. Although Psheks after purchasing the 48 F-16 Block EMNIP 52, which are stupidly newer in equipping the F-16, did not see any special advantages in battle (but they raked the problems), except that the MiG-29, as you know, has a lot of power on the afterburner, unmasking a car.
        2. alone
          alone 26 November 2013 19: 07
          +1
          On June 2, 1989, Israeli F-15s shot down two Syrian MiG-29s. According to some reports, two more MiG-29s were shot down by Igla on September 14, 2001 (the Israeli side officially denied this incident)

          During the Gulf War of 1991 and NATO operations against Yugoslavia in 1999, aerial combat of the MiG-29 against the F-16 and F-15 was noted.
          According to data published by the United States during these wars and conflicts, a total of 15 MiG-16 fighters were destroyed by F-9 and F-29 fighters without loss on their part.
          According to the official website of the Ministry of Defense of Serbia, Nebojsa Djukanovic (Neboša укukanovi), who was the commander of 1999 squadron (flying the MiG-127) in 29, confirmed that 6 MiG-29s were lost in air battles.

          request and where is the 49: 1 data in favor of the mig-29?
          1. Slon1978
            Slon1978 27 November 2013 10: 40
            +1
            If you read the memoirs of the Yugoslav pilots, including the commander of their Air Force (who, by the way, himself fought on the MiG-29 at that time), unfortunately I don’t remember the title of the article, then during the battles in the skies of Yugoslavia MiG-29 shot down about 4 - 5 NATO aircraft (F -15C, F-16, as well as Tornado). Of course, these losses were declared by NATO members as non-combat losses - i.e. as a result of "accidents". At the same time, the Yugoslavs themselves really lost 5-6 MiG-29 aircraft in battles. At the same time, it is necessary to take into account such important facts that NATO had an overwhelming numerical superiority in the air and information superiority. AWACS hung constantly in the air. And MIGs went out on patrol almost blindly. At the same time, the Migi were in a terrible technical condition at the time of the outbreak of the war, some were not capable of flying, some had faulty systems, often failures of combat systems (for example, a weapon guidance radar) happened right during the battle. Some Migi were shot down when leaving the attack, when returning to the airfield (i.e. without a supply of fuel for a maneuvering battle) - this is the topic of numerical and information superiority. What I am talking about all this - firstly, you should not take NATO data on its air losses in Yugoslavia at face value - they WERE. Also, I repeat, the MIG is quite a good aircraft, competitive, but certainly not outstanding.
          2. Slon1978
            Slon1978 27 November 2013 10: 40
            0
            If you read the memoirs of the Yugoslav pilots, including the commander of their Air Force (who, by the way, himself fought on the MiG-29 at that time), unfortunately I don’t remember the title of the article, then during the battles in the skies of Yugoslavia MiG-29 shot down about 4 - 5 NATO aircraft (F -15C, F-16, as well as Tornado). Of course, these losses were declared by NATO members as non-combat losses - i.e. as a result of "accidents". At the same time, the Yugoslavs themselves really lost 5-6 MiG-29 aircraft in battles. At the same time, it is necessary to take into account such important facts that NATO had an overwhelming numerical superiority in the air and information superiority. AWACS hung constantly in the air. And MIGs went out on patrol almost blindly. At the same time, the Migi were in a terrible technical condition at the time of the outbreak of the war, some were not capable of flying, some had faulty systems, often failures of combat systems (for example, a weapon guidance radar) happened right during the battle. Some Migi were shot down when leaving the attack, when returning to the airfield (i.e. without a supply of fuel for a maneuvering battle) - this is the topic of numerical and information superiority. What I am talking about all this - firstly, you should not take NATO data on its air losses in Yugoslavia at face value - they WERE. Also, I repeat, the MIG is quite a good aircraft, competitive, but certainly not outstanding.
      2. tomket
        tomket 26 November 2013 09: 24
        +4
        Quote: Slon1978
        For Mig-29, the suitable rival is F-16 and F-18, and even without any technical advantage

        The statement is quite bold. In general, I thought that the main plus in the MiG-29K based on Kuznetsov is the ability of the air group to work on surface and ground targets, and not a comparison of performance characteristics with f-16 and f-18.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 10: 26
          +2
          Quote: tomket

          The statement is quite bold.

          The Americans themselves organized these fights, so hi
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 26 November 2013 10: 12
      +4
      The contract for the ships was extended by Vysotsky and Serdyukov.
  6. Skarte
    Skarte 26 November 2013 08: 59
    0
    Kuzya is being prepared, is it really going to cover the Arctic !?
    1. Zerstorer
      Zerstorer 26 November 2013 09: 06
      +6
      As far as I understand, the MiG-29K is replacing the Su-33 (since they are developing their resources). And having an aircraft carrier and not having aviation on it looks very stupid.
    2. dimon-media
      dimon-media 26 November 2013 10: 35
      +2
      Honestly, I can’t imagine an aircraft carrier in the Arctic. At least it should be an ice class. Hurricane winds, icing of the flight deck, constant storms. If I'm wrong, correct it. I want to hear the words of experts: does it make sense to keep naval aviation in the Arctic?
  7. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 26 November 2013 10: 19
    +1
    Quote: Zerstorer
    As far as I understand, the MiG-29K is replacing the Su-33 (since they are developing their resources). And having an aircraft carrier and not having aviation on it looks very stupid.

    Yes, no, they say that it is just as an addition, not a replacement.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 November 2013 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      Yes, no, they say that it is just as an addition, not a replacement.

      It is a replacement. The Su-33s have almost exhausted their resources and the new Su-33s are not being built. Yes, and they do not need Kuze. The Su-33 was too heavy; it pushed the landing deck during landing. The MiG-29K has a higher thrust-weight ratio with a noticeably lower mass.
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 November 2013 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: Nayhas
        The MiG-29K has a higher thrust-weight ratio with a noticeably lower mass.
        And the range? And the ability to cover the grouping of ships?
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 November 2013 12: 25
          -1
          refueling then why? flew up with weapons, immediately recovered and forward.
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 26 November 2013 16: 41
          0
          And range is sacrificed to size. In principle, the F / A-18E / F somehow copes in the same weight category, but in general, as I wrote above, the problem of miserable range on the MiG-29M is solved.
      2. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx 26 November 2013 21: 15
        0
        The article is written clearly
        “During 2014 and 2015, we expect to receive another 20 MiG-29K / KUB to replenish the aircraft fleet of the ship’s regiment. They will also not come to replace Su-type vehicles, but will be used with them, ”the Navy representative said.
  8. donavi49
    donavi49 26 November 2013 10: 25
    +2
    So 4 Su-30СМ for Domna arrived. The color is old.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 26 November 2013 11: 40
      0
      like instant-29. in the blast furnace 29.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 26 November 2013 13: 52
        +1
        Well, 29 in Domnoy is replaced by Su-30СМ - the first 3 pieces are already there. In the photo, the board from the second three lit up. which is about to fly to Domna.
  9. svp67
    svp67 26 November 2013 10: 32
    0
    Honestly, the new aircraft, and even more so for the carrier group, are excellent. But it also needs "heavy fighters" and "attack aircraft", and better "ship" Su34, and also AWACS aircraft ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 26 November 2013 10: 36
      +5
      Even in the wealthy United States, the composition of the air group was cut to the 1 Super Hornet and 1 AWACS aircraft. Viking - written off. Sturmoviks even under Reagan decommissioned. F-14 decommissioned under Bush.
    2. tomket
      tomket 26 November 2013 12: 27
      0
      then we need not Kuzya, but in size something akin to Nimitsu
  10. avg
    avg 26 November 2013 11: 11
    0
    The MiG-29KUB and possibly the MiG-35 is certainly good, but the MiG is not allowed to engage in a new topic, and without it the design bureau dies. You can’t lose the MiG, as Yakovlev’s Design Bureau practically lost.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 26 November 2013 13: 00
      +4
      Why have you lost? And the Yak-130, the UAV on its basis, participation in the MS-21 program, rotary nozzles (UVT) for the F-35 (dubious success), who does this? Other work is underway. I’m more concerned with the design bureau of Ilyushin and dvigatelisty - KB Kuznetsova, Perm, Omsk ...
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 26 November 2013 16: 43
      0
      What kind of topics? Analog F-35 rivet? From the point of view of economics and combat effectiveness, this may not be the best solution. The nomenclature of aircraft itself was reduced, and their life span increased.
  11. tank 34
    tank 34 26 November 2013 11: 15
    0
    Very good news. More of these cars!
  12. morpogr
    morpogr 26 November 2013 11: 16
    0
    Now we need to put an aircraft carrier for airplanes, and then they drive one Kuzyu.
  13. Oberst_71
    Oberst_71 26 November 2013 11: 17
    0
    and notice again during 2014-2015.
  14. aleshka1987
    aleshka1987 26 November 2013 11: 21
    0
    Quote: haralaan
    Well done Navy and further build up the military power of Russia. Respect to our Minister of Defense S. Shoigu. I would like to see how the MIG29K deals with F35 Lightning.

    Here it is necessary that fartanulo! smile
  15. URAL72
    URAL72 26 November 2013 12: 52
    +1
    Still, at least 4 MiG29KUB additionally to Yeysk for permanent deployment ...
  16. Valkyrie
    Valkyrie 26 November 2013 13: 19
    -1
    http://topwar.ru/27077-palubnaya-aviaciya-chast-1-ya-ssha.html
  17. Gost
    Gost 26 November 2013 13: 35
    +1
    Quote: 31231
    They will say that Kuzya is not repaired or modernized.

    And what is real with Kuzey?
  18. Valkyrie
    Valkyrie 26 November 2013 14: 41
    +1
    For the current time and the coming 30 years, the US military-political leadership provides for the presence of large aircraft carriers in the current composition of the 11 aircraft carrier forces. Such a quantity should ensure the deployment of aircraft carrier groups to combat service both on a planned and emergency basis, and the fulfillment of the tasks stipulated by the US military doctrine. Multipurpose aircraft carriers with an aircraft wing based on them (75-85 aircraft) are the core of aircraft carrier attack groups (ACG), and aircraft carrier attack formations (ACM), which are part of the operational fleets of the U.S. Navy in the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian Oceans, and the Mediterranean Sea. In the 21st century, ships of this class will remain the most important means of the US Navy to gain and maintain supremacy at sea, as well as air superiority in land theaters of war. At present, the US Navy includes 11 aircraft carriers, of which 10 are of the Nimitz type and 1 are Enterprise. All of them are equipped with nuclear power plants (NPPs).

    Source: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/98 © "Modern Army" portal
    What can I argue about in this state of affairs? What to brag about? Yes, this is a step forward, but very small and weak.
  19. aleshka1987
    aleshka1987 26 November 2013 15: 56
    +1
    Quote: vaf
    Quote: aleshka1987
    New MIGs, isn't that a MIG-35?


    Actually, no, because K / KUB is a blighted version of M / M2, although in the light of the extreme statements of Korotkov-M / M2 this is the Mig-35 for the Air Force, before there was a desire to designate it as the Mig-35M (with Zhuk-M), but with APFAR it would be already a real MiG-35 (well, with all sorts of glider, wing and keel "gadgets").
    Now they "ride" on the M2 "Zhuk-AE", but on the further ... so far only "conversations" request

    Thank you very much for the answer! If you can catch up with another question, how are things with new air-to-air missiles? What are MiGs armed with at this stage, and indeed fighter aircraft?

    Honestly puzzled by the number of minuses for my question ...
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 26 November 2013 16: 03
      0
      This is a military secret, actually. But in our century of publicity, such a concept has been lost altogether. Everything you want can be found in 0,5 minutes, depending on the speed of the Internet.
    2. VAF
      VAF 26 November 2013 19: 49
      +3
      Quote: aleshka1987
      If you can catch up with another question, how are things with new air-to-air missiles?


      The question is not very request , I will answer with a joke, but close to the truth: - ".... it's okay. with missiles .. not very much" bully
      While everything is the same 27 and 73, it is good that the "power engineers" went to the troops, though not 120, but still.

      Quote: aleshka1987
      Honestly puzzled by the number of minuses for my question ...


      Do not be upset, there will be a holiday on your street, +! drinks
      1. TSOOBER
        TSOOBER 26 November 2013 20: 39
        0
        Hello hello! drinks Please tell me, who (what organization) is developing the paint for the Air Force is an institute or something else! And is there such an organization in general? soldier
        1. TSOOBER
          TSOOBER 26 November 2013 20: 47
          0
          in pursuit, how relevant is the color itself because the planes see further and work without going into the air defense coverage area, not to mention the direct visibility
          1. tomket
            tomket 26 November 2013 22: 10
            +1
            The Europeans have camouflage based on the difficulty of visual detection at long distances, we have for short distances.
      2. aleshka1987
        aleshka1987 26 November 2013 21: 17
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        Once upon a time it was a million dollar question at aviation forums - "Do the troops have" power engineering "? Well, at least now they have appeared - this is already a big plus! We hope that soon there will be improved versions with natfel.