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Agreement on the Iranian nuclear program: "bad" or "very bad"?

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On Sunday night, Iran and the "six" mediating countries in Geneva came to an agreement. The media writes that Iran must now suspend the nuclear program for six months and temporarily halt the construction of the reactor in Arak. The West pledged to lift severe economic sanctions from Tehran. However, the last question is: the West has never been in a hurry to lift the sanctions, and then there were displeased voices in the Middle East. The diplomatic success of the negotiators in Geneva was not appreciated in Israel and Saudi Arabia. What was considered a positive result in the G6 countries, in Iran and many other countries, in Tel Aviv and Riyadh, which are recently listed as regional allies, was declared “bad”, “very bad” and even so which completely deprives sleep.


Agreement on the Iranian nuclear program: "bad" or "very bad"?


The next six months, the “six” and Iran are going to devote to the continuation of the negotiations. Probably, the mediating countries will wish to make sure that the Islamic Republic of Iran keeps its word. Tehran, in turn, wants to fully defend the right to implement a peaceful nuclear program: Iran needs to produce fuel for nuclear power plants.

However, not all so simple. This production itself is already causing a lot of doubts and complaints from the West.

After talks in Geneva, John Kerry told Fox News that the agreement does not contain a provision recognizing the right of Iran to enrich uranium. The US Secretary of State clarified that an agreement was reached on Iran’s refusal from the kilograms enriched to 200% of uranium in 20. Six months later, from these kilograms there should be nothing left. Apparently, this will be the test of Iran for "lice".

And Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said something else. According to him, Iran’s “sacred right” to a peaceful atom will enter into a future agreement with a “six”.

Russian Foreign Minister comrade Lavrov noted that the Geneva agreement implies "the strictest control of the IAEA" over the Iranian nuclear program and that this goal of the negotiations is "fixed" in the agreement.

Interfax also cites the Israeli assessment of the agreement signed by the parties in Geneva.

The Israeli Cabinet has negatively evaluated the agreement reached. Speaking on Israel’s army radio, Economy Minister Naftali Bennett said: “Israel does not see for itself the limitations associated with a signed bad, very bad agreement.”

Here Tel Aviv ran into Washington. According to an anonymous representative of the American administration, who spoke with reporters, Barack Obama, after the talks, expressed a desire to talk with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and explain the essence of the agreement.

The latter, although it looks a bit comical, is due to the fact that the negotiations in Geneva were held behind closed doors, and the information about them in the media is very poorly represented to this day. Analysts and experts operate more with guesses and forecasts than facts.

Natalia Kovalenko ("Voice of Russia") kindly quoted experts on the nuclear “deal”. It is interesting to see the opinion of a specialist in the problems of Central Asia and the Middle East, Semen Bagdasarov:

“It’s not for nothing that the term 6 has been defined for months, during which the world community and, first of all, the states of the“ six ”must make sure that Iran is really ready to fulfill the obligations that it has assumed. The fact is that within Iran there is a strong opposition to any such negotiated solutions. This is the leadership of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and the security forces as a whole. This is the first. Secondly, we must admit directly that during these 6 months Israel and Saudi Arabia will do everything possible to cast doubt on Iran’s sincerity in fulfilling its obligations. Because these states are not interested in bringing the West closer to Iran. ”


As for Israel, he is dissatisfied not only with what the West is pleased with, but also with the fact that secret talks with American representatives of Iran have preceded the Geneva talks. What happens? While Mr. Netanyahu was drawing the “red lines”, the Americans were looking for a reason to become friends with Iran. America in general seems to have slowed down and is backing off: this is evident both in the situation with Syria and in the situation with Iran. What kind of anti-bunker bombs! .. Now it turns out that Obama did not receive the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. Miracles, and only.

As noted by MIGnews.comA public rapprochement between Iran and the United States was preceded by a series of private bilateral meetings between US and Iranian officials. This was recognized by an unnamed representative of the Obama administration.

A senior US official said that four US-Iranian secret meetings had been held since Rouhani’s inauguration in August. By the way, American officials informed Israeli colleagues about the main content of the conversations. The main negotiators on the part of the Americans were William Burns, US Undersecretary of State, and Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor to the US Vice President.

A former Iranian official confirmed the fact of secret negotiations and said that they were conducted with the sanction of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. “All meetings with the Americans were held with the blessing of the leader. The first one was the most difficult, especially when we had to convince our main authority about the positive results of such meetings, ”said a former high-ranking Iranian official. “The leader gave a green light, but viewed their result without optimism,” he said. “We took the risk, but we won.”

Communication channel through Oman proposed US Secretary of State John Kerry.

Answering the question whether secret meetings played an important role in achieving a nuclear agreement, a high-ranking US official answered: “Yes.”

Against the background of the fact that the Iranian issue was removed from the geopolitical agenda (at least for half a year), some people in the Middle East gritted their teeth.

While many representatives of the world community recognized the agreement of the IRI and the "six" as an important step, the majority of Arab states, especially the countries participating in the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf, remain silent, reports correspondent ITAR-TASS Vasily Vavilin.

"Residents of the entire Middle East will not be able to sleep peacefully after reaching an agreement between Iran and the major powers," said Abdullah al-Askar, head of the international affairs committee of the Saudi Arabian Consultative Council.

Despite such a sharp reaction, the Kingdom’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not officially indicate its position. Among the GCC countries only the UAE and Bahrain made statements.

A statement from the UAE government states: “The government hopes that this event will be a step towards achieving a permanent agreement that will ensure stability throughout the region and save it from the danger of the proliferation of nuclear weapons.”

Bahrain’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sheikh Khaled bin Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa, said: “With this agreement, we, Iran and other countries have got rid of the feeling of fear.”

Thus, those who spoke out, “got rid of the feeling of fear,” and those who chose to keep silence, “cannot sleep well”.

And what deprived the latter of sleep?

The site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia appeared unofficial translation “Joint Action Plan” (Joint Plan of Action), developed after the negotiations in Geneva.

From the very first lines of the document, it follows that the goal of the G6 negotiations with Tehran is to achieve a mutually agreed long-term solution ensuring the exclusively peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program. It seems to be okay; You can do without valerian. But further: “This comprehensive solution will allow Iran to fully exercise its right to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes in accordance with the relevant articles of the NPT, with strict compliance with its obligations under this Treaty. This comprehensive solution will include a mutually agreed enrichment program with practical limitations and transparency measures in order to ensure the program’s peaceful nature. ”

This is exactly what Tel Aviv, with some ingenuity, can declare the Iranian military nuclear program.

However, we read further: “This comprehensive solution will be a whole, where nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.”

Masterly wording! It is simply impossible to interpret it in two ways - even with Jewish ingenuity and American double standards. Valerian really is not required.

According to the document, the control of the implementation of short-term measures will be carried out by the Joint Commission of the Six and Iran, and the verification of measures related to the nuclear field will be the responsibility of the IAEA. The joint commission should cooperate with the IAEA - so that all concerns remain in the past. This is exactly what Comrade Lavrov explained, saying that the Iranian nuclear program will now fall under the "strictest control of the IAEA."

Israel could be frightened by the fact that Iran’s “voluntary measures” are nothing more than a clear compromise of the “six” with Iran, and not concessions to the “six” by Iran.

Of the existing uranium enriched to 20%, Tehran will retain half in oxide form with an enrichment level of up to 20% in order to produce fuel for the Tehran research reactor, the document says. The remaining part with the enrichment level up to 20% will be depleted to the level of no more than 5%.

As for the six months declared by the parties, during this period Iran will not enrich uranium over 5%.

Iran will not advance in the enrichment facility at Natanz, at the Fordo facility, at the reactor in Arak and will not create new enrichment sites. At the same time, Iran will continue its R & D under the safeguards of the IAEA, including the current enrichment R & D that is not designed to increase the reserves of enriched uranium.

To monitor the IAEA, Iran is committed to providing this organization with complete information regarding nuclear facilities, including even data on plans. Tehran will have to provide all this information, including on nuclear reactors at the above-mentioned facilities, in the next three months. The IAEA inspectors should also gain access to facilities where centrifuges are assembled, facilities for the production of centrifuge components and their storage sites, and finally, to uranium mines and plants for processing uranium ores. All this is written in the document.

All this should not disturb Israel or the Saudis. The latter, of course, are greatly upset because Iran is their raw material rival, and Wahhabis do not like Shiites. But the time of aggression seems to have ended with the bombing of Libya, and besides, the United States now has a new geopolitical rival and even in some sense its adversary, China, and America simply does not have to go to the Middle East. Beijing won the other day decided to expand the air defense zone in the water area, whose property is defended by its neighbors (Tokyo and Seoul), and in the White House grabbed their heads. This is the Air Defense Identification Zone in the East China Sea, which includes the space above the Senkaku Islands and the Iodo underwater rock in the area of ​​Jeju Island. The National Security Council under the President of the United States has already made clear to Beijing that Washington is deeply concerned.

Let us return to the talks between Iran and the "six". According to the document on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, the countries of the "six" in response to the exemplary behavior of the IRI will take the following measures (also voluntary).

Efforts to reduce sales of Iranian crude will be halted. Repatriation of the agreed amount of funds held from the sale of oil held abroad is also permitted. Suspends the effect of EU and US sanctions on related insurance and transportation services.

Iran will be allowed to export petroleum products. Sanctions on gold, precious metals, Iranian auto industry, etc. will also be suspended.

Moreover, the US administration will create a financial channel to facilitate trade in the humanitarian sphere for Iranian domestic needs (food, agricultural products, medical field), using funds received from the sale of Iranian oil and held abroad.

The final step of a comprehensive decision starts no later than one year after the adoption of the document. Here we are talking about a mutually agreed upon enrichment program with jointly determined parameters, with restrictions on the scale and level of enrichment activities and enrichment capacities, as well as in places where enrichment is carried out, as well as reserves of enriched uranium. After successfully completing the final step, throughout its life, the Iranian nuclear program will be treated the same as the program of any other NPT non-nuclear weapon state party. weaponsindicated in the document.

That, in fact, is all that is known about the negotiations and their results. There is nothing “bad” for Israel and Saudi Arabia. It may seem that those who speak of a “bad” agreement would consider the decision about the bombing of Iran to be a “good” outcome of the negotiations. Apparently, the Saudis need the same thing: they would even return to the UN Security Council and re-make friends with Washington. Especially if Washington incidentally would have tossed "Tomahawks" Syria, where too many Shiites bred.

But the United States went the other way. Moreover, the White House has distinguished itself not only in theory, but also in practice. The US has already unfrozen eight billion dollars of Iranian assets.

Igor Dunaevsky ("Russian newspaper") spoke about the dialogue between the US President and the Israeli Prime Minister. A telephone conversation between Obama and Netanyahu took place on Sunday.

Israeli Prime Minister criticized the Geneva accords, calling them “historical a mistake. " In response, the owner of the White House tried to reassure Netanyahu, assuring that "the US continues to intend to prevent Iran from creating nuclear weapons."

The press service of the presidential administration conveyed: “Obama suggested Netanyahu immediately begin consultations on the Iranian problem in order to find the most suitable solution, and also confirmed that the Israelis have good reason not to trust Tehran.”

This distrust is also felt in the powerful Israeli lobby in Washington. The correspondent points out that Democratic Senator from New York State Chuck Schumer said: "Iran will benefit from the Geneva accords much more than the international community, and therefore both Democrats and Republicans will discuss new sanctions against Tehran in the coming month."

It is curious: who exactly is meant by “the international community”? ..

With regard to the discussion in Congress and the influence of the powerful Jewish lobby on the Congress, the Obama administration made it clear to the lobbyists in late October that their pressure should be stopped.

As reported "Lenta.ru" With reference to The Jerusalem Post, Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice, her deputies Ben Rhodes and Tony Blinken, and US Under-Secretary of State Wendy Sherman met with Jewish lobbyists in Washington.

All of them demanded that lobbyists stop trying to push new sanctions through the Senate at a time when relations between the United States and Iran began to improve after three decades of discord. As the newspaper notes, the conversation of diplomats and lobbyists was going on "in raised voices."

It seems that Netanyahu and Obama have finally disagreed on geopolitical views. And for good reason, Obama serves in the ministers of defense Chuck Hagel. When the Vietnamese veteran, the candidate for ministers, last winter, the senators were subjected to biased interrogation, he was reminded of his “anti-Semitic” past. The fact is that, while working in the Senate in 1997-2009, Chuck often performed criticized Israel’s policies and refused to support the initiatives of pro-Israel American public organizations. Once he even disapprovingly spoke of the powerful “Jewish lobby” in the United States, saying that he himself was “not an Israeli senator, but an American senator.” It was then that he was labeled an anti-Semite.

As senator, Charles Hagel condemned attempts to push the United States and Israel into war with Iran. In his bold judgments, he went so far as to allow the possibility of negotiations with Hezbollah. All of this logically fit into the mainstream of solving the Iranian nuclear issue through diplomacy.

At the winter “interrogation” in the Senate, Hagel also stated that the Iranian nuclear issue should be resolved with the help of international sanctions, which need to be coordinated with Russia and the UN Security Council.

As we see, over the past few months everything turned out exactly according to Hagel's old plan.

By the way, after the signing of the agreement in Geneva, the American president warned that if Iran does not fulfill its promises, the sanctions will be resumed in full. The six months referred to in the agreement are set aside for Iran’s verification.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are frantic, thus, also because their hands are now tied. Connected thereby by the international community, which advanced the solution of the “nuclear problem” along the diplomatic path. News the success of the agreement was among the first to be publicly confirmed, by the way, by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius - and after all, Paris opposed the Iranian nuclear program to the last. British Foreign Secretary William Hague said with pathos: "Good news for the whole world."

Good That is not bad. And only Israel thinks otherwise. And so do some "residents of the entire Middle East," who now "will not be able to sleep." Tel Aviv and Riyadh’s unanimous reaction to the results of the Geneva talks only strengthens analysts in the thought that the current union of Israel and Saudi Arabia is not an informational stuffing at all. Of course, Mr. Netanyahu should expect new “red lines”: it is difficult to think of something else. However, it is unlikely that these lines will work on Obama: the American president himself was not so long ago mired with the Syrian “lines”, and his rating took on the form of a curve that was despondently creeping down. The successes of international diplomacy, in which Barack Hussein is now trying to imitate Comrade Putin, can slightly raise the graphic curve ...

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. makarov
    makarov 26 November 2013 08: 44
    +4
    I will sound in German, but in Russian font "Vas is das ???"
    1. APES
      APES 26 November 2013 09: 25
      +4
      “Bad” or “very bad”?


      in Israel can’t decide, have not decided yet?
      1. Civil
        Civil 26 November 2013 09: 48
        +2
        Ha! Nachit Iran has produced enough material for nuclear weapons, this is what this agreement means. Watch the mines, check the centrifuges, and you're done. Beauties, what can I say. :-) and the union of Wahhabis with the Zionists, so they are related peoples of SEMITA. Freedom to Jerusalem!
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 26 November 2013 10: 32
        +6
        Quote: APES
        in Israel can’t decide, have not decided yet?

        I saw an interview with the Israeli prime minister, and it seems like the Jews are not stupid people, but they say some strange things. For example, "why does Iran need a nuclear power plant if they have a lot of oil" in my opinion, even a schoolboy knows that nuclear energy is much cheaper than conventional energy ... especially considering the standard of living in Iran ..
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 26 November 2013 14: 34
          +1
          I saw this interview literally, he said: - "Why does Iran need a nuclear power plant, if they have oil from their ears."

          And yesterday I saw an interview with Netanyahu in the Posner program.

          It has not yet appeared on YouTube, but it already lies on trackers.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 26 November 2013 16: 39
          +1
          The issue is not nuclear energy. Iran was offered "light water" reactors. He sharply refused. So it’s not about energy.
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 26 November 2013 17: 53
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Iran was offered "light water" reactors. He sharply refused. So it’s not about energy.

            Yes, you are "kurchatov".
            For you "luminary" there is a resource called Wikipedia.
            Or even there you can't read and learn the main differences between "heavy" and "light" !?
            Normal water, in contrast to heavy water, not only slows down, but also significantly absorbs neutrons (by the reaction 1H + n = ²D). Therefore, if water is used in a light-water reactor both as a coolant and as a neutron moderator (as, for example, in VVER, PWR, VK-50 reactors), then the reactor cannot operate on natural uranium, for the operation of such a reactor requires preliminary enrichment of uranium. If graphite serves as a neutron moderator, and ordinary water is used only as a coolant, then the reactor can, in principle, operate on natural uranium or low enrichment uranium (such as the RBMK reactor). A heavy water reactor can also operate on natural uranium, this is one of its main advantages. In a heavy water reactor, the use of natural uranium significantly reduces fuel costs, although the economic effect is somewhat mitigated by the higher cost of the power unit and coolant.

            I hope Eugene became clear.
            Initially, they tried to sell to Iran with what it is possible to cut down more dough and to fix a long-term faucet.

            Industrial heavy water reactors have been widely used for the production of tritium and plutonium, as well as for the production of a wide range of isotope products, including medical use.
            But this is if we are talking about industrial targeted production of plutonium. And Iran has a nuclear power plant.
            Dzhaponchev nuclear power plants have darkness and a lot of weapons-grade plutonium?
            hi
        3. Katsin1
          Katsin1 27 November 2013 14: 07
          0
          Nuclear power is cheaper for a country that has no oil. For Iran, the cost of electricity generated by nuclear power plants is several times more expensive than using oil and gas. That is, it is economically completely unprofitable for Iran to build nuclear power plants. And the question is backfill: why does Iran need intercontinental missiles? Conventional warheads are not placed on them. It is impossible to guarantee that they will fly to Washington, and not to Moscow.
          IMHO: Israel has only three allies: the army, aviation and navy ...
          1. atalef
            atalef 27 November 2013 14: 29
            0
            IMHO: Israel has only three allies: the army, aviation and navy ...

            and my kitty Monya
          2. bif
            bif 27 November 2013 23: 53
            +1
            Quote: Katsin1
            Nuclear power is cheaper for a country that has no oil. For Iran, the cost of electricity generated by nuclear power plants is several times more expensive than using oil and gas. That is economically completely unprofitable for Iran to build nuclear power plants

            It seems you write from Israel, and such nonsense ... Give an example of calculating the cost of 1 kW of electricity from nuclear power plants and thermal power plants, and most importantly oil is far from endless ..
            Quote: Katsin1
            And the question is backfill: why does Iran need intercontinental missiles? Conventional warheads are not placed on them.

            A tricky question: Why does Israel need nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as ballistic missiles, and why has it been hiding for several decades and no one from the IAEA is inspecting it?
      3. mirag2
        mirag2 26 November 2013 22: 31
        +1
        For Israel, not very good.
        But whose points of view we read in the media:
        "Vesti" (newspaper, Israel), Such journalists as Anton Nosik worked and are working in the newspaper.
        Anton Borisovich Nosik (born July 4, 1966, Moscow) is a startup manager, journalist, well-known public figure and popular blogger (10th place in Runet according to Yandex [3]). Sometimes he is called one of the "fathers of Runet" [4]. He was the editor of the largest online news publications Vesti.ru, Lenta.ru [5], Gazeta.ru and NEWSru.com. One of the former managers of the Rambler holding and the blogging service of the SUP company (participated in such improvements to the LiveJournal service), the founder of the Pomogi.org charity foundation [6]. Until recently [when?] He was the editor-in-chief of the Bfm.ru website. Since mid-October 2009, he took the position of Deputy General Director of United Media and, concurrently, the position of chief editor of Bfm.ru. From November 16, 2011 to November 29, 2012 Anton Nosik was the media director of SUP Media, which owns the LiveJournal service.
        He emigrated to Israel in 1990, began journalism there. He conducted economic reviews and a column on Internet news in the Russian-language Israeli newspaper Vesti. Together with Arkan Kariv, he wrote a detective novel about the murder of Yitzhak Rabin. Translated from different languages. He returned to Russia in 1997. One of the most popular bloggers in Russia: the Russian blogger prostitutka_ket became the most rated blogger in 2012 with the help of Nosik’s recommendation on her blog, which she described on the air of the Moscow-24 channel [8].
        So think about who you are rubbing what he considers necessary for his real homeland, and why did he return here?
        To put pressure on our brains, to say that Navalny and Khodorkovsky were put in vain.
        And where is OUR PATRIOTIC MEDIA? - "Star" and that's it? "Look" does not count.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 26 November 2013 10: 00
      +6
      It is beneficial to Iran, of course, they will not bomb it ... for now ... but still do not like it all, as if the United States is starting a new scam ... they will not live in peace ...
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 26 November 2013 13: 07
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        It is beneficial to Iran, of course, they will not bomb it ... for now ... but still do not like it all, as if the United States is starting a new scam ... they will not live in peace ...


        Yes, it’s very profitable. The agreement is very similar to the text of the statement of unconditional surrender. That is, Iran so eggs out that he yelled falsetto ...

        This is what the country had to be brought to so that it agreed to all the conditions of a political fraudster, who with 90% probability would change his part of the agreement ???? Something tells me that Iran will not be allowed to produce fuel for nuclear power plants itself, which means that in fact the country will become dependent on the fuel producer ...

        Next, I think, we should expect the requirement to allow inspection of military facilities, and then probably inspectors on an ongoing basis ... then, according to the rolled-back scenario, dissidents, NGOs, LGBT people ...
  2. Tarpon
    Tarpon 26 November 2013 08: 53
    +1
    Agreement on the Iranian nuclear program: "bad" or "very bad"?

    The main thing today is an agreement has been reached.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 26 November 2013 09: 04
      0
      Here is the info for consideration, from a Jewish site:
      DEBKA Files Exclusive Sources' Washington Reveal Exclusively: US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry secretly agreed to raise Iran to the status of a seventh world power as a strong incentive to sign an interim nuclear accord in Geneva Sunday, November 24, for life to fulfill its obligations in the coming six months and then signing a comprehensive agreement.
      While Iran has always demanded respect and equal standing as a regional power, the Ayatollahs were not expected to be granted the greatest authority of the authorities, with the authoritative role of the recognized six major powers to resolve issues in a wide area covering the Persian Gulf, not in their wildest dreams. Middle East and West Asia, including Afghanistan.
      Our Jerusalem sources say that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who kept it from his cabinet colleagues, was holding back confidential consultations with the heads of Israeli security and intelligence services and the high IDF team to decide how to handle Obama suddenly replacing Israel with Iran. as America's No. 1 ally in the region.
      Most immediately, a hostile Iran with a role in ongoing sponsored negotiations with the Palestinians does not bear to think from not.
      The Saudi royal house is deep in the midst of alarming and angry discussions.
      Some of DEBKA's files from Western and Israeli sources in both capitals tell Israel and Saudi Arabia how to find Iran's progress towards world status more shocking and harmful than even its claims of nuclear weapons. Never imagined that the Obama administration was capable of being so extreme. DEBKA file received full details of the secret US-Iranian deal, as concluded between Kerry and Zarif in Geneva and approved by the Russian and Chinese foreign ministers. They will be revealed in the upcoming DEBKA Weekly Issue # 613 next.
      Googl translation, without correction.
      1. faraon
        faraon 26 November 2013 13: 10
        +1
        Yes, all the info that you have is worthless. This is all a U.S. venture, the bottom line is that at the initial stage, the United States provoked all these spring revolutions to wreak havoc. To do this, they carried out a bloody revolution in Libya and overthrew Gaddafi as the most not conspiracy ruler, Then they started with a change of power in Egypt, Syria began next. Saudis and Israel were united. What is available today.
        1) .American government in Egypt, which the states hooked on a financial needle.
        2) destroyed Libya with which free oil is transported by tankers. And standing in line for the Amer protectorate.
        3) destroyed Syria. With a civil war and without chemical weapons.
        4) Iran remained, which is not satisfied with such a situation, it is already strangled by all sorts of sanctions and all kinds of embargoes from the United States, the economy is in a deplorable state.

        After secret negotiations between the State Department and the President of Iran in Aman, the parties came to an agreement that Iran remains with the development of a peaceful atomic program, processing of enriched uranium (200 kg) and stopping all centrifuges. Which you received in return, you probably read.

        Well, now the most interesting part. Iran entered the wake of American foreign policy, that is, it became a pro-American, that is, a state with a US-controlled regime. Well, if he tries to pursue a foreign policy different from the US, then it has Saudi Arabia and Israel. It's like chain dogs of states.
        Now, with regard to the results of the signing of the agreement, prices on world hydrocarbon markets have crawled to the bottom. And this will primarily hit the Russian economy, and if God forbid Iran puts its hydrocarbons on the market at dumping prices, this is a collapse of the Russian economy. a repetition of what happened twenty years ago.
        the issue with Syria is a matter of the near future, the states have just started and will finish this event, will give loans for restoration, will hook them on a financial needle, and all of Syria will satellite the United States.
        Well, and as for Iran’s nuclear weapons, then why should he. Iran already occupies a worthy niche among US vassals.
        The trouble is that again, with the hands of Russia, they brought the whole Middle East to the world. And they threw them like boys.
        It's a shame for the state.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 26 November 2013 16: 41
        +6
        Quote: mirag2
        Here is the info for consideration, from a Jewish site:
        DEBKA Files Washington's Exclusive Sources Reveal Exclusively: US President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry secretly agreed to raise Iran to seventh world power status as a strong incentive to sign the interim nuclear accord in Geneva Sunday, November 24, for life

        They love to quote Debka. Only here the information on this site is usually complete garbage.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 26 November 2013 18: 02
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          They love to quote Debka. Only here the information on this site is usually complete garbage.

          Eugene, I spat you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++
  3. Boris55
    Boris55 26 November 2013 09: 02
    +7
    The agreement was signed, and what will happen to the missile defense system in eastern Europe (the same was built against Iran's supposedly nuclear missiles)? What excuse will the Ame'ra come up with this time?
    1. Tarpon
      Tarpon 26 November 2013 09: 21
      +5
      Quote: Boris55
      The agreement was signed, and what will happen to the missile defense system in eastern Europe (the same was built against Iran's supposedly nuclear missiles)? What excuse will the Ame'ra come up with this time?

      For excuse, North Korea remained.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 26 November 2013 09: 51
      12
      Quote: Boris55
      What excuse will the Ame'ra come up with this time?


      As the need for protection from the boomerangs of Australian Aborigines = extremists.

    3. AK-47
      AK-47 26 November 2013 10: 26
      +1
      Quote: Boris55
      ... what will happen to missile defense in eastern Europe ... What excuse will the Ame'ra come up with this time?

      They will be preserved in case of future "threats".
    4. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 26 November 2013 10: 32
      +2
      In fact, they are "excuses" like a goat accordion. And so it was clear who this ABM was about. It's just that the masks have been removed and the move is now for Russia. If there is nothing to answer - the talking shop will continue, if there is - they will be put on alert.
  4. Canep
    Canep 26 November 2013 09: 03
    +9
    Sergey Lavrov: implementation of agreements on Iran leaves no reason to deploy missile defense in Europe
    Such a headline appeared on RT yesterday. Lavrov needs to erect a monument during his lifetime, to crank up such a multi-way, for 10 years the Americans could not agree on the Iranian nuclear program. He collected them, and in two weeks he led to the result, knocking out the soil from under the legs of the European missile defense.
    1. Civil
      Civil 26 November 2013 09: 54
      +3
      According to EuroPro they do not consider it necessary to explain, they will quietly move out.
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 26 November 2013 09: 59
      +2
      Quote: Canep
      knocking the soil out of under the EuroPro

      Hold the pocket wider with both hands.
      Will the ready-made infrastructure for accepting weapons and specialists be abandoned, mothballed, or reprofiled?
      It seems that feijua is all over the face with lapels and not folding the missile defense. The reason and reasons will be found and invented, probably everything has already been invented and implemented.
      Quote: Canep
      Lavrov needs a monument during his life

      Then Kozyrev and everyone else who "ruled" the Foreign Ministry for the last 30 years.
      Quote: Canep
      He collected them, and in two weeks led to the result

      International affairs are not "Honey and Flies" and have not been making any sudden diarrheal movements since Budun.
      This is a huge chess game and not even in a 100 cell board.
      We expect new miracles in the near future. hi
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 26 November 2013 10: 19
        +6
        Quote: Papakiko
        Lavrov needs a monument during his life

        Lavrov, of course, well done. he is like prince A.M. Gorchakov of the XNUMXst century. Perhaps the best candidate for the Foreign Ministry is currently not found
    3. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 12: 37
      0
      Quote: Canep
      Sergey Lavrov: implementation of agreements on Iran leaves no reason to deploy missile defense in Europe

      Such a headline appeared on RT yesterday. Lavrov needs to erect a monument during his lifetime, to crank up such a multi-way, for 10 years the Americans could not agree on the Iranian nuclear program. He collected them, and in two weeks he led to the result, knocking out the soil from under the legs of the European missile defense.


      Lavrov has nothing to do with it, the Americans have been secretly negotiating with Iran for a year
      http://www.kommersant.ru/pda/kommersant.html?id=2352409[left][/left]
    4. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 13: 16
      -5
      Lavrov needs not to erect a monument, but to dismiss 33 stotas without maintenance. For the collapse of the Russian economy.
      The signing of this treaty and the advancement of Iran’s peace initiative will fall back on Russia.

      Read the press, oil prices began to fall. And if IRan puts its oil and gas at dumping prices on the hydrocarbon market, this is a collapse of the Russian economy, as it was with the USSR. Only the consequences can be more depressing.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 13: 29
        +3
        Quote: faraon
        Read the press, oil prices began to fall. And if IRan puts its oil and gas at dumping prices on the hydrocarbon market, this is a collapse of the Russian economy,

        Why is everything in Israel measured by money ??? And then, Iran traded oil and will trade nothing with prices, because Mr. chaos rules the ball hi
        1. faraon
          faraon 26 November 2013 13: 34
          0
          Yes, Mr. Chaos is exactly at hand, but the price of Iranian oil will now be the same Mr. in the person of the United States.
          Well, if you are not happy with the dough measurement, let's take the measurement with greyhound puppies.
        2. atalef
          atalef 26 November 2013 19: 07
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: faraon
          Read the press, oil prices began to fall. And if IRan puts its oil and gas at dumping prices on the hydrocarbon market, this is a collapse of the Russian economy,

          Why is everything in Israel measured by money ??? And then, Iran traded oil and will trade nothing with prices, because Mr. chaos rules the ball hi

          And what else to measure the economy? And Alexander, here in the morgue they open the grinder, believe me only on the basis of economic feasibility wassat
      2. faraon
        faraon 26 November 2013 13: 31
        0
        Che never realized that minus, then I’m preparing for a new redistribution as it was in 1990
      3. builder
        builder 26 November 2013 13: 38
        0
        Quote: faraon
        to the hydrocarbon market, its oil and gas at dumping prices is a collapse of the Russian economy

        Do you seriously believe that Iran is allowed to dump in the market?
        1. faraon
          faraon 26 November 2013 14: 01
          +1
          And why not, if it is already under the states. and they give him a ration (they will defrost $ 7 billion for foodstuffs). That for a country the size of France is 7 billion, it’s still supposed to be purchased in an Amer supermarket.
          1. bazilio
            bazilio 26 November 2013 15: 03
            +2
            Quote: faraon
            Read the press, oil prices began to fall. And if IRan puts its oil and gas at dumping prices on the hydrocarbon market, this is a collapse of the Russian economy

            1.-Dumping is unlikely and will be short-term, OPEC will not yawn, and above all, the UAE, CA and other exporting countries from the Middle East. 2.- oil prices have fallen, yes. But they did not fall so much as to be critical. Lower oil prices will drive demand.
            3.- Russia has long been time to diversify the economy. Lower oil prices will push the government to develop other sectors of the economy.
            1. atalef
              atalef 26 November 2013 15: 10
              +1
              Iran is the second or third oil producer and in an attempt to earn and recover losses no one knows how to lead it, it urgently needs to restore the economy and curb 50% inflation, so long, protracted dumping, Europe, America and China are also possible - this is more than satisfied
              2 Prices have not fallen yet t to Iranian oil has not yet entered the market
              3. Until it pushes and begins to diversify - how much time will pass? 2008 year taught something?
              1. bazilio
                bazilio 26 November 2013 16: 51
                0
                Quote: atalef
                therefore, a long, protracted dumping is possible,

                in such a situation it is all the more stupid to dump; dumping leads to a decrease in profit. besides dumping will not give OPEC. Given the fact that Iranian oil is already dropping prices, the demand for oil, at least, will not change, but as a maximum will increase. Do not discount the logistics - Iran’s neighbors are more profitable to buy oil from Iran due to its proximity and therefore lower transportation costs
                1. atalef
                  atalef 26 November 2013 19: 11
                  0
                  Quote: bazilio
                  Quote: atalef
                  therefore, a long, protracted dumping is possible,

                  in such a situation it is all the more stupid to dump; dumping leads to a decrease in profit. besides dumping will not give OPEC. Given the fact that Iranian oil is already dropping prices, the demand for oil, at least, will not change, but as a maximum will increase. Do not discount the logistics - Iran’s neighbors are more profitable to buy oil from Iran due to its proximity and therefore lower transportation costs

                  Dumping leads to short-term profit for solving urgent problems, do you know the word ACTION that you think it will increase demand? Maybe, yes, maybe no, it depends more on the economic situation in the world, Logistics does not play a big role, as oil is sold on the spot market and prices practically change every hour
                  1. bazilio
                    bazilio 27 November 2013 09: 36
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    Dumping leads to momentary profit to solve pressing problems, you are familiar with the word ACTION
                    Who will allow dumping? Why dumping, running into sanctions when Iranian oil will also be bought at normal prices.
                    Quote: atalef
                    Logistics does not play a big role, as oil is sold on the spot market and prices practically change every hour
                    Do you want to say that players bring all the oil they sell to these markets?
              2. ultra
                ultra 26 November 2013 17: 52
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Prices have not fallen yet. Iranian oil has not yet entered the market.

                And, unfortunately, there is little oil to fall, and world consumption is growing and there is great potential for growth!
                1. atalef
                  atalef 26 November 2013 19: 12
                  0
                  Quote: ultra
                  Quote: atalef
                  Prices have not fallen yet. Iranian oil has not yet entered the market.

                  And, unfortunately, there is little oil to fall, and world consumption is growing and there is great potential for growth!

                  Oil gross, consumption is related to the general economic situation, until it is a fountain in the world
        2. ultra
          ultra 26 November 2013 17: 50
          +1
          Quote: stroitel
          Do you seriously believe that Iran is allowed to dump in the market?

          Iran is not profitable for himself!
          1. atalef
            atalef 26 November 2013 19: 15
            0
            Quote: ultra
            Quote: stroitel
            Do you seriously believe that Iran is allowed to dump in the market?

            Iran is not profitable for himself!

            Iran needs to get money quickly, today the demand for oil in the world is satisfied, and the Saudi’s niche is occupied by Iran? Now the question is, who wants to give Iran a piece of his pie? Therefore, only by lowering the price, he will get his piece, then a chain reaction until stabilization, if the Saudis (who have a lot of money) do not want to take revenge on Iran and Russia, of course, and continue to supply oil in the same volumes, thereby reducing the profit of both Iran and others - by itself in general, they don’t care, they have a budget surplus last year (and this is only for the farewell year) 600 billion dollars
        3. atalef
          atalef 26 November 2013 19: 08
          0
          Quote: stroitel
          Quote: faraon
          to the hydrocarbon market, its oil and gas at dumping prices is a collapse of the Russian economy

          Do you seriously believe that Iran is allowed to dump in the market?

          Who will he ask?
        4. alone
          alone 26 November 2013 23: 54
          0
          Quote: stroitel
          Do you seriously believe that Iran is allowed to dump in the market?


          Rather, Iran will begin to sell its gas and oil on the market at the direction of the Americans. Then it will be very interesting.
      4. ultra
        ultra 26 November 2013 17: 49
        +1
        Quote: faraon
        oil and gas at dumping prices is a collapse of the Russian economy

        IMHO It will only be to our advantage! Yes, at first it’s a bit tough, but the government can move, it will begin real reforms in the economy! hi
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 26 November 2013 14: 37
      0
      And this is right after Ukraine’s refusal from European integration and immediately after the settlement of the situation around Syria.
    6. Pimply
      Pimply 26 November 2013 16: 42
      0
      Quote: Canep
      Such a headline appeared on RT yesterday. Lavrov needs to erect a monument during his lifetime, to crank up such a multi-way, for 10 years the Americans could not agree on the Iranian nuclear program. He collected them, and in two weeks he led to the result, knocking out the soil from under the legs of the European missile defense.

      Of course, a year of backstage negotiations - nothing to do with it.
  5. ReifA
    ReifA 26 November 2013 09: 29
    +3
    Israel publicly whines that everything is "bad" for Iran's ears. Iran says everything is good for internal use. They even drove their journalists, somewhere they read, separately, apparently in the same way and controlled what they wrote. The Iranians themselves ask - have the sanctions been lifted? No. Was oil allowed to be sold? 7 billion greens .. It's funny. Banned to enrich uranium? Yes. Well, what's good then ..
    IMHO.
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 12: 28
      0
      [
      Quote: ReifA
      Israel publicly whines that everything is "bad" for Iran's ears. Iran says everything is good for internal use. They even drove their journalists, somewhere they read, separately, apparently in the same way and controlled what they wrote. The Iranians themselves ask - have the sanctions been lifted? No. Was oil allowed to be sold? 7 billion greens .. It's funny. Banned to enrich uranium? Yes. Well, what's good then ..
      IMHO.

      In general, 7 billion is a penny, but even this dropped prices, after half a year when they conclude the main contract, Iran will come out with all its reserves - then it will be interesting how much the prices will collapse
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 November 2013 13: 24
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        but even that dropped prices

        Do you firmly believe that prices for raw materials are exclusively regulated by market demands-interests?
        The price will be the same as ordered from Buckenham and White sheds.
        1. atalef
          atalef 26 November 2013 13: 33
          +3
          Quote: Papakiko
          Quote: atalef
          but even that dropped prices

          Do you firmly believe that prices for raw materials are exclusively regulated by market demands-interests?
          The price will be the same as ordered from Buckenham and White sheds.

          I know one thing, when they imposed sanctions against Iran, prices rose, they started talking about lifting - prices went down, I’m far from thinking that Iran regulates prices (since raising and lowering is in his interests), therefore, it’s okay, but the way out the huge mass of oil accumulated by Iran (in half a year) will bring down prices, is this unequivocal or in your opinion how is the price? Or tell me to whom (besides Russia and Saudi Arabia high oil prices are beneficial? So they seem to regulate? But it’s not so, high prices to the West - just like a bone in the throat, I won’t explain in short how it is done according to you and who regulates (with facts please)
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 26 November 2013 14: 53
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            high prices - just like a bone in the throat, I will not explain in short how it is done according to yours and who regulates (please with facts)

            You are kindly for faxes contact (below the list) in:
            1) ExxonMobil. Revenue: $ 433,5 billion, Profit: $ 41,1 billion, Assets: $ 333,1 billion, Capitalization: $ 407,4 billion.
            2) JPMorgan Chase. Revenue: $ 110,8 billion, Profit: $ 19 billion, Assets: $ 2,265 trillion, Capitalization: $ 170,1 billion.
            3) Royal Dutch Shell. Revenue: $ 470,2 billion, Profit: $ 30,9 billion, Assets: $ 340,5 billion, Capitalization: $ 227,6 billion.
            I will not continue, for enlightenment you can contact banks and hedge funds controlled by them (Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway, HSBC, General Electric, JPMorgan Chase, ConocoPhillips, Qatar Petroleum, " Nigerian National Petroleum Co. "and so on, and so on.) Let them tell you what and where they own. It doesn’t mean getting into the owners of all financial and industrial groups. And the majority of them are dark.
            Quote: atalef
            I know one thing

            It is a pity that this is where your knowledge ends.
            Quote: atalef
            I am far from the idea that Iran regulates prices

            It is in vain that he regulates the villain of IRAN!
            And we think badly about Gazprom, Lukoil and Rosneft, these are fools.
            Quote: atalef
            and the output of a huge mass of oil accumulated by Iran

            Then I just fell into a fierce gossip!
            (NIOC) 6,4 million barrels per day of production!
            The embargo was introduced in January 2012. After 6 months, 5,5 billion barrels of oil should spill out onto the market at once! SO????
            May the land of Israel not become scanty in "gifts".
            Quote: atalef
            i am far

            This explains all your statements and conclusions here on the site. laughing
            1. atalef
              atalef 26 November 2013 15: 02
              -1
              And that at least Rosneft did not cite Saudi Arabia as an example?
              How then can you explain the fall in oil prices, 2 days ago, and why or until 30 bucks in 2008?
              in half a year you will see what will happen, or rather even earlier, or why, in the pursuit of profits, would all these companies not raise the price to 150, as was the case in 2007?
              Foolishness fools, but zero facts
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 26 November 2013 15: 18
                -1
                Quote: atalef
                Foolishness fools, but zero facts

                Moysha Rabinovich, you go to the addresses above written for faxes and take the missing ones from Forbes.
                Well, and also a sketch about "steering"

                How then can you explain the fall in oil prices, 2 days ago and why or up to 30 bucks in 2008
                why, in the pursuit of profits, all these companies would not have raised the price to 150, as was the case in 2007
                This is you Rabinovichi explain how it turns out. You sing about market liberalistic ideals.
                in half a year you will see what will happen, more precisely, even earlier
                Brazilian wizards of the ball.
                atalef is a storyteller and admirer of cultures growing in the Afghan collective farm and the "paradise valley".

                Let's call your mega forecast for the price of oil.
                I’ll answer my own and invite Romanich with patients to be part of the office.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 26 November 2013 15: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Quote: atalef
                  Foolishness fools, but zero facts

                  Moysha Rabinovich, you go to the addresses above written for faxes and take the missing ones from Forbes.

                  It’s good to lay out the pictures and draw the schemes, explain with your own words, he copies the capitalization, the pictures, I remembered Rabinovich (I hope to Roma) Why did you call Moysha for him, you tell me black and white and in your own words how the oil price is formed and what it depends on please facts, otherwise all your pictures do not prove anything, but only take up space on the servers. like empty useless info,
                  Master of copy-test, Coca-Cola, Mars, Snickers and Of course Procter & Gamble diapers are the main players in the oil markets belay
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 26 November 2013 15: 57
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    how the oil price is formed and what it depends on and with the facts please

                    Quote: atalef
                    I know one thing

                    Quote: atalef
                    I am far from a thought

                    The point here is to spread in front of you in absurd economic calculations, calculations, supply and demand, trends on exchanges?
                    In the link you can see the "miracles" from Nigeria (all with photos-BEAUTY): http://masterok.livejournal.com/1161519.html
                    Quote: atalef
                    Coca-Cola, Mars, Snickers and Of course Procter & Gamble diapers are major players in the oil markets

                    What is chocolate made from?
                    And much more consumer happiness.
                    In the photo we carefully read the composition. (Clickable)
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 26 November 2013 16: 10
                      +2
                      The point here is to spread in front of you in absurd economic calculations, calculations, supply and demand, trends on exchanges?
                      In the link you can see the "miracles" from Nigeria

                      Can you spill it? Again copy-paste, now about Nigeria, but the answer is always zero, well, in general, this is your style
                      What is chocolate made from?
                      And much more consumer happiness.
                      In the photo we carefully read the composition. (Clickable)

                      I’m deep in the drum of what it is made of, I asked you about chocolate? You have already given me the diagrams with chocolate and diapers, but you haven’t answered the question, you know, you remind me very much of Gorbachev, he said the same thing for hours, and as a result did not say anything about the case laughing
                      1. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 26 November 2013 17: 07
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        only now they didn’t answer the question, you know,

                        I sent you, my dear, many times to very competent places, they are written above. But you persist in sitting and pushing out of yourself the "golden testicle" -Expert of oil exchanges, market economy and market pricing.
                        The cost of good quality jeans is $ 10.
                        Everything else in the lion's share of the cost is a brand margin.
                        A liter of mineral water is almost equal in price to a liter of cow's milk.
                        Listen to Moishe, where is the market component.
                        Justify with calculations and other nuances.
                        Why is metal in Magnitogorsk the same as on the London Metal Exchange?
                        Tired of explaining, believe me!

                        So what’s up there with your forecast for the price of oil with the release of Iranian stocks, which has been accumulating, amassing and amassing long 2.5 years?
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 26 November 2013 19: 19
                        +1
                        The cost of good quality jeans is $ 10.
                        Everything else in the lion's share of the cost is a brand margin.
                        A liter of mineral water is almost equal in price to a liter of cow's milk.
                        Listen to Moishe, where is the market component.

                        But this is the market component, maybe they’d be ready to buy for this price, wouldn’t buy it, would they lower the price, or if 4 more companies with water enter, who do you think will be bought from someone, who will offer cheaper, or have never been to the store? fool
                      3. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 26 November 2013 21: 26
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        But in this market component,

                        Take pills or drops for clarity of perception of information.
                        I wrote to you-The cost of good quality jeans is $ 10Where here
                        Quote: atalef
                        But in this market component, maybe, for this price we’re ready to buy
                        The reality is the following, these jeans in Russian stores cost from $ 40 to $ 250 (naturally in ruble terms). Everything that is cheaper than $ 40 is a faint similarity of fabric and pants, but not high-quality denim. Price collision rule works on all categories of goods: Why earn less if you can earn more!
                        Quote: atalef
                        who will buy, who will offer cheaper

                        I attached a photo above for you "Dragee peanuts in cocoa powder". As a product, it is the cheapest on the market. Buy, eat, do not deny yourself. I hope all the food that you will absorb will consist of talcum powder, wax, palm oil and paraffin.
                        Be healthy and long you. hi
    2. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 14: 07
      0
      You see, you yourself answered the question and answered. Everything will be just that.
  6. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 13: 31
    0
    Quote: atalef
    then it will be interesting how prices will collapse

    Hi Sanya! they will not collapse, because Netanyahu, together with the Saudis, stirs up water. In short, the tension in the region was, is and will be.
    1. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 13: 38
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: atalef
      then it will be interesting how prices will collapse

      Hi Sanya! they will not collapse, because Netanyahu, together with the Saudis, stirs up water. In short, the tension in the region was, is and will be.

      Yes, nobody stirs up anything, now everyone is trying to save face, but in essence the States simply outlined Iran’s immediate prospects for five years in front of him if he doesn’t do what the Washington Regional Committee demanded of him
    2. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 13: 39
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: atalef
      then it will be interesting how prices will collapse

      Hi Sanya! they will not collapse, because Netanyahu, together with the Saudis, stirs up water. In short, the tension in the region was, is and will be.

      Both of them swallow this pill, believe me, the fluttering of Netanyahu is not why (in my opinion, the contract is not bad for us) Natanyahu knows that now he will have to answer two questions - First, why the heck he dumped so many dibs in a jaarmia for a hypothetical attack on Iran (which nobody else probably believed in it), and the second is negotiations with the palaces, he understands perfectly well that they will end with Iran - the States and Europe will demand progress from the negotiations from him, and though neither the Palestinians are interested in this, he will pressure us.
      Anyway, when there is an ENEMY - it’s always easier for people to hang noodles on their ears
      This will make it harder for him now
      By the way, how about the fact that I said that the contract will be signed? What am I now drinking Corvoisier in one person? drinks
  7. Klim
    Klim 26 November 2013 20: 35
    0
    Oil will be expensive until America gets enough of the "shale revolution"
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 20: 42
      0
      Quote: Klim
      Oil will be expensive until America gets enough of the "shale revolution"
      Can the connection be decrypted?
  • Kommerz
    Kommerz 26 November 2013 09: 36
    +2
    Six months later, the issue of missile defense in Europe should be raised head-on. Rather, it would be nice not to clatter, figuring out "why do you need missile defense now," but to continue the steps towards answers to these fennies. Vaughn dispersed the missile defense advisory group Volodya, like there is no sense from it, and all the negotiations to the Americans are head-on or head-on. Now the Iskander battalion is in Kaliningrad, and that's it. Only silently, without pathos and any press statements about asymmetric answers and other blizzards. Just bam! - and deployed.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 26 November 2013 09: 37
    +3
    You can’t just put these arrogant Saxons in their place. They will still nerve, and bite the meat from the sides. It's a pity the iPhone with the hunchback was remembered for the most important order, now you can’t offer a normal person. Although I think Lavrov does not smack of the order.
  • andru_007
    andru_007 26 November 2013 09: 47
    +7
    It looks like Israel is being drained ... But is it profitable for Russia? If the Americans come to Iran, they will end up at the Caucasian "underbelly" of Russia, and this is dangerous!
    1. catapractic
      catapractic 26 November 2013 10: 13
      +5
      about the merge, the merge is not - this is another question, but Iran always plays its own game when they need it against Russia.
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    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 26 November 2013 10: 53
      +2
      Quote: andru_007
      If the Americans come to Iran, they will end up at the Caucasian "underbelly" of Russia, and this is dangerous!


      In Iran, anti-American sentiments are too strong, especially the military and part of the clerical elite in the person of the same IRGC are dissatisfied with the policy of rapprochement with the United States. It doesn’t work to blow up Iran from the inside, and meanwhile a vigorous bomb is on its way. Shouting to Iran by force without resolving the issue with Syria and without the support of NATO partners is more expensive. One year ago, Kissinger in an article “Iran should be an urgent priority for President Obama” a post published in Washington argued that among the most important tasks facing the US president and requiring the most urgent solution, is indicated shutdown of the Iranian nuclear program.
      link
      Thus, Obama is solving two problems - to prevent Iran from producing nuclear weapons and to prevent the United States from being drawn into a new war in the Middle East. In addition, with the positive development of US-Iran relations, Tehran could become a good mediator in the Afghan settlement and the Syrian crisis. Then Obama could implement a new strategy - shifting the focus of foreign policy to the Asia-Pacific region, crowding out China from the Middle East. Well, the basis of everything is the task of maintaining the stability of the petrodollar and preventing the strengthening of the yuan. It is no longer up to Israeli interests ..

      1. faraon
        faraon 26 November 2013 14: 17
        +1
        In general, everything is correct, there is only one thing, But just the interests of Israel are respected here.
        Iran has become pro-American, which means there is no threat from it. For example, we were planning to increase taxes again, now we have decided not to raise them, which is something that says that there is no need for a military operation.
    4. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 13: 24
      0
      This is information for the international community, for internal use: in the Middle East, two watching Saudis and Israel appeared. Two dogs that will guard American property, and roughly punish who will try to break the rules of existence.
      If the Americans come to Iran, they will end up at the Caucasian "underbelly" of Russia, and this is dangerous!
      but such is the price of Russia's advancement of the Iranian nuclear program.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 November 2013 13: 43
        +1
        Quote: faraon
        If the Americans come to Iran, they will end up at Russia's Caucasian "underbelly"

        How do you divorced liberalists.
        underbelly, asshole, head and so on.
        Or maybe all to the "mother's breast", and one breast and feed in turn. wink
        Quote: faraon
        watching Saudis and Israel

        You look, not hiding being called watching thieves.
        And that’s all, we are honest, robotic businessmen.
        It is necessary that day in the calendar in red, the Israelis admitted that they are crooks and thieves.
        1. atalef
          atalef 26 November 2013 13: 51
          0
          Quote: Papakiko
          Quote: faraon
          If the Americans come to Iran, they will end up at Russia's Caucasian "underbelly"

          How do you divorced liberalists.
          underbelly, asshole, head and so on.
          Or maybe all to the "mother's breast", and one breast and feed in turn. wink
          Quote: faraon
          watching Saudis and Israel

          You look, not hiding being called watching thieves.
          And that’s all, we are honest, robotic businessmen.
          It is necessary that day in the calendar in red, the Israelis admitted that they are crooks and thieves.

          It’s possible with facts and without flooding, you still haven’t written your theory to me how oil prices are formed
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    5. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 November 2013 19: 01
      0
      Quote: andru_007
      It seems Israel is still being drained ...!

      It seems so and no. fellow
      The Air Forces of Israel, Greece, Italy and the United States have been holding the largest military exercises in Israel since November 24, in which about 100 combat aircraft are taking part. The IDF press service officially informs that the ongoing exercises, dubbed the "Blue Flag", have nothing to do with the possible development of a joint airstrike against targets in Iran.
      The teachings were being prepared all year. According to a source in the IDF, all the costs associated with the exercises were borne by the participating countries, based on the degree of their participation in the flights. Representatives and military attaches from 20 countries observe the joint exercises that began at the Uvda aerodrome.
      Of the 100 aircraft taking part in the exercise, more than 50 are F-15 and F-16, and the rest are Tornado and Typhoon. Representatives of all air forces emphasize that the exercises are as close as possible to real hostilities. One of the main combat tasks of the current exercises is to study and practice general combat missions, while the IDF emphasizes that the exercises are planned and are not associated with any future plans for a possible attack on Iran.
      The uniqueness of the current air maneuvers is in their mass character.
      Among private military tasks is the development of the departure of combat vehicles from air defense systems. Countermeasures against the alleged air opponent are also being worked out. Exercises include conventional aerial combat. For the first time, the latest information system will be used, providing instant communication of the air forces with ground support.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 26 November 2013 09: 55
    +3
    Yes, I watched this show all the time, well, we’re waiting for new intrigues of Israel and the UAE, or everything will remain so, with which I completely agree that justice has triumphed.
  • bazilio
    bazilio 26 November 2013 10: 14
    +4
    I liked this. "Moreover, the US administration will create a financial channel to facilitate humanitarian trade for Iranian internal needs (food, agricultural products, medical sphere), using the funds received from the sale of Iranian oil and held abroad."
    That is, it looks like this, Iran, we have kept your money here, you can spend it, but only on food and medicine (and it seems to me that buying Iran will be American / European and at predatory prices)
  • andru_007
    andru_007 26 November 2013 10: 23
    +1
    ShturmKGB
    It is beneficial to Iran, of course, they will not bomb it ... for now ... but still do not like it all, as if the United States is starting a new scam ... they will not live in peace ...

    As far as I heard, the Kerry family has good relations with the Iranians, it is not surprising that sanctions, etc., will be lifted from Iran with his arrival. (maybe there is no merit in this Russia). The question is, what will happen next? Americans and Iranians will agree, Iranian oil will enter the markets, respectively, the price of oil will fall ... Problem!
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 26 November 2013 10: 35
    +1
    The Israeli cabinet negatively assessed the agreement.

    this is probably the most important thing for the west. now they will start twisting, pulling, just to please the Jews. they say correctly, a small bug, but smelly
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 26 November 2013 10: 38
    +5
    Well, everything seems to have been resolved with Iran’s nuclear program, it’s time to slowly begin to express concern about Israel’s nuclear program. bully
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 26 November 2013 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: Stiletto
      start expressing concern over Israel’s nuclear program.

      yes you what! touch the chosen ones, rest neither to you nor to your descendants until the seventh generation will be in this or the next world fool
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 26 November 2013 11: 20
        +2
        According to the content of information. Infographics.
  • mountain
    mountain 26 November 2013 11: 28
    +1
    With our policy, everything is clear, but what happens to America? Changes old comrades to new ones? All this is alarming.
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  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 26 November 2013 11: 34
    +1
    If Iranian oil goes to the market, it will drop prices. Including our gas. Not everything is clearly good in this rapprochement between Iran and the West.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 26 November 2013 12: 09
      +2
      exactly. this is the meaning of the behind-the-scenes talks between the us and Iran. Again, the goal is the same - Russia. And Iran did not care that Russia harnessed for it. Egypt example.
      1. atalef
        atalef 26 November 2013 14: 27
        +3
        Quote: Oberst_71
        exactly. this is the meaning of the behind-the-scenes talks between the us and Iran. Again, the goal is the same - Russia. And Iran did not care that Russia harnessed for it. Egypt example.

        And that Russia harnessed to Iran? In general, Russia is somehow not harnessing those, Venezuela seems to have harnessed it, arms with a loan were given, as always, given off with bolivars at the rate of the central bank, and it’s only 10 times less than the black market rate, I harnessed for Egypt - I don’t quite understand by whom and for what, but they already promised arms at 2 billion (as well as a loan for this amount, of course), who will give it back? , history is silent about this, they harnessed for Iran - the same is certainly good, Iran generally liked it, only what will Russia get from this, apart from falling oil prices? The same silence, Abkhazia and South Ossetia - beautiful of course, but to what sense? There are also 2 subsidized regions, and that those that they begin to hate quietly Russia (it turns out that they give little - an article in the WHO was not so long ago).
        Cuba, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Syria are all the latest, newly acquired friends, that when it was hard for Russia, they somehow didn’t stand in line to help, but like molten friends felt like a dough
        1. olviko
          olviko 26 November 2013 15: 51
          0
          "In general, somehow Russia is harnessed for the wrong"

          Are you proposing to harness for Israel? So, as they say, not in the horse feed, the painfully arrogant and boorish policy of this state. In recent years, trying to find a common language with Israel, Russia has only lost. Russia's unilateral concessions on a number of important issues, such as canceling or delaying the supply of Russian arms to Syria and Iran, have become a one-sided game, and exclusively Russian ones. Medvedev will ban the sale of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, armored vehicles, combat aircraft, helicopters and ships to Iran in response to Nitanyahu's statement that Gazprom will gain an advantage in developing fields in the Mediterranean. The deal between Russia and Iran on air defense systems for a total amount of $ 800 million, as well as forthcoming contracts on military-technical cooperation for another $ 4,2 billion, were "leaked". So what ? Israel's promise was not fulfilled, the Australian Woodside Petroleum, bypassing Gazprom, won an Israeli tender for the development of the Leviathan field. According to public figure and writer Yakov Kedmi, "Gazprom will not be allowed to Israel for political reasons." Military - technical cooperation is also at zero. “The only thing we sold to Russia is the Sercher UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle - Ed.), Which is a 30-year-old outdated vehicle with outdated systems. The Russian side wanted to get it for the production of its own UAVs. We have fulfilled our part of the agreement on the UAV, but not a single modern system has been sold and will not be sold to Russia. " This statement was made by the director of the military-political bureau of the Israeli Defense Ministry, retired major general Amos Gilad. I do not understand what Nitanyahu was looking for in Moscow after that. Putin has not forgotten how Israel put tracking equipment on the path of the Russian naval ships heading to the Syrian shores, as he promised to launch a missile and bomb attack on Russian transports if they try to deliver S-300 to Damascus.
          more details at http://imperiya.by/comments3-18447.html
          1. atalef
            atalef 26 November 2013 16: 03
            +3
            Do you propose to harness for Israel?

            God forbid

            .
            In recent years, trying to find a common language with Israel, Russia has only lost

            I don’t know, commodity circulation between us times in 10 more than with Syria
            Medvedev will ban the sale of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, armored vehicles, combat aircraft, helicopters and ships to Iran in response to Nitanyahu's statement that Gazprom will gain an advantage in developing fields in the Mediterranean.

            There wasn’t such, Gazprom wanted, but no one promised him anything

            Israel's promise was not fulfilled, Australian Woodside Petroleum, bypassing Gazprom, won an Israeli tender for the Leviathan field development project. According to public figure and writer Jacob Kedmi, Gazprom will not be allowed into Israel for political reasons

            Of course, this was written in arshin letters, since Gazprom is the Russian government, and not a commercial company (in the normal sense of the word), so no one would give Gazprom this
            “The only thing we sold to Russia was the UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle - Ed.)“ Sercher ”, which
            is an 30 year old obsolete machine with legacy systems. The Russian side wanted to get it for the production of its own UAVs. We have fulfilled our part of the UAV agreement, but not a single modern system has been sold and will not be sold to Russia

            The same is understandable why, Russia supports Iran, Syria and Hezbollah (in a sense) and we are not the kind to sell the most modern, but even this is by far the best thing in the Russian army, but to buy? Could you not buy, did you twist your hands or something?
            Putin did not forget how Israel installed tracking equipment on the way of the ships of the Russian Navy, sailing to the Syrian coast, as he promised to launch a missile and bomb strike on Russian transport in case they try to deliver Damascus S-300.

            Of course I did, and why not? America, for example, is following us the same way, but it seems like a friend, the intelligence has such a job, and as for the promises to strike at Russian ships, in more detail, please, we are not. d, and. about . about . you .
    2. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 12: 43
      +3
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      If Iranian oil goes to the market, it will drop prices. Including our gas. Not everything is clearly good in this rapprochement between Iran and the West.

      Already dropped, even without having gone, and as for sanctions, have not yet been lifted, after half a year, when Iran fulfills all the conditions and signs the final agreement, in general Iran was a military self. Israel’s program doesn’t interfere in any way, and for these half a year, Skynut Assad (or will resign), the next regime in Syria will not be pro-Iranian, the result is that after half a year Iran is without me. military program, Syria-Hezbollah-Iran axis --- destroyed, Iran quietly pumps oil to Europe and around the world (price rush) within its borders, surrounded by its very loving Arab countries,
  • spirit
    spirit 26 November 2013 12: 30
    +2
    Netanyahu yesterday at Pozner just bursting. What a terrible regime Iran has) he whirled his bald head with these devilish 20%). in general under ** and Israel.
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: spirit
      Netanyahu yesterday at Pozner just bursting. What a terrible regime Iran has) he whirled his bald head with these devilish 20%). in general under ** and Israel.

      We are running around with the Iranian nuclear program, you are with the European missile defense - everyone has their own sores
      1. Tourist Breakfast
        Tourist Breakfast 26 November 2013 16: 01
        0
        We are running around with the Iranian nuclear program, you are with the European missile defense - everyone has their own sores


        It seems to me that Bibi is not so much bothered by the Iranian nuclear program, but by the presence of Comrade Obama in the White House.
        Consequently, Bibina's criticism of the agreement is designed primarily to weaken the positions of Obama and Co. and pours water on the Republican mill.
        And here is the first swallow:

        Only four out of ten Americans consider US President Barack Obama the "effective manager" of the federal government. This is evidenced by the results of a poll conducted by ORC International for the news service CNN.

        These data, released on Monday, November 25, show that 53% of Americans do not believe in Obama's honesty and do not consider him worthy of trust. The press notes that for the first time this opinion is shared by most respondents.
  • UmaR
    UmaR 26 November 2013 12: 52
    -2
    Quote: The Israeli prime minister criticized the Geneva accords, calling them a historic mistake.

    So, a historical mistake is the very existence of Israel! yes
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 13: 26
      +3
      Quote: UmaR
      Quote: The Israeli prime minister criticized the Geneva accords, calling them a historic mistake.

      So, a historical mistake is the very existence of Israel! yes

      I am very for you, I’m glad, as I understand it, that you would like the Jews to stay in Russia and not go anywhere, thanks, I can assure you, we can continue to be friends at a distance drinks
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 26 November 2013 14: 33
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        I am very for you, glad, as I understand it, you would like for the Jews to remain in Russia and not to go anywhere, drinks

        Sanya, UmaR got excited, high life Israel, just pick up the rest from us, please. drinks
        1. atalef
          atalef 26 November 2013 15: 52
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: atalef
          I am very for you, glad, as I understand it, you would like for the Jews to remain in Russia and not to go anywhere, drinks

          Sanya, UmaR got excited, high life Israel, just pick up the rest from us, please. drinks

          It all depends only on you, bring more umars and jamshuts, you will run away, only to whom will you blame all the problems then?
          Although this is definitely not our problem
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 26 November 2013 16: 15
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            It all depends on you, bring more umars and jamshuts - you will run away

            It is unlikely that they will run away, your people are already too cunning, they swim better in muddy water than anyone else. Remember the joke- Children, take care of the Armenians, when they deal with them, they will come for us. Therefore human rights defenders wassat nationalities most advocate for tolerance and tolerance.
            1. atalef
              atalef 26 November 2013 16: 27
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: atalef
              It all depends on you, bring more umars and jamshuts - you will run away

              It is unlikely that they will run away, your people are already too cunning, they swim better in muddy water than anyone else. Remember the joke- Children, take care of the Armenians, when they deal with them, they will come for us. Therefore human rights defenders wassat nationalities most advocate for tolerance and tolerance.

              I understand - envy is such a thing, but such is life
              Apparently there are not many people like you in Russia and my few relatives staying in St. Petersburg are in no hurry to move to us, but you can set new goals and goals for yourself and, if you do, you can make that not so big part move in the end and save me that some amount of money that I have to spend regularly traveling and visiting them, probably our goals agree on this. Do you want to leave, we would move. Thank you for your not easy work, because they don’t understand until they get it on the head.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 26 November 2013 18: 18
                0
                Quote: atalef
                I understand - envy is such a thing, but such is life

                What I like about you is a sense of humor. I love when they joke wisely good
                Quote: atalef
                Thank you for your not easy work, because they don’t understand until they get it on the head.

                Here's the problem- We are Russians, not Germans. We have always spared the wretched and holy fools. wassat This pity constantly fails us. laughing
                PS I hope not offended. repeat
                1. atalef
                  atalef 26 November 2013 19: 25
                  +1
                  Here's the problem- We are Russians, not Germans. We have always spared the wretched and holy fools. This pity constantly fails us.
                  PS I hope not offended.

                  with this I agree with you, to holy fools, sick and wretched - in Russia they have always been treated with love and tenderness, to us it is always the other way around, now pick up the antonyms to - holy fools, sick and wretched - and this will be just us
                  Of course I didn’t offend, I stated a fact hi
          2. UmaR
            UmaR 26 November 2013 22: 28
            -1
            No longer, when do not compare me with any jamshuts and others ... as at least half the population think in this country and they haven’t been brought in from anywhere like me, they just don’t speak like some, in the 90s these jamshuts were different I suspect this is just the work of your relatives, because the struggle was surrounded by the Berezovskys and so on. yeah, of course, not your problem, this is understandable, you are always everywhere and not when you are not to blame for anything! yes
      2. UmaR
        UmaR 26 November 2013 21: 45
        -1
        No, I would like on the contrary that in Russia there would not be more than one Jew, because the Jews, penetrating into power, milk the country as a punishment, and not when they don’t do anything good for the country in which they live, in Russia anyway! yes
        1. Katsin1
          Katsin1 27 November 2013 14: 21
          +2
          And what are the Caucasian peoples doing to Russia? Really replenish the budget and reduce crime? :-)
          1. UmaR
            UmaR 27 November 2013 21: 11
            0
            The peoples of the Caucasus do not do anything bad for Russia, but different bandits in the Caucasus and Russia as a whole are more than enough in the Caucasus, and other than that it’s not your dog thing! And the Jews drank and drink the blood of this country, they have one peculiarity, for the United States and for Britain and for others they bring benefits, and for Russia it’s not when there is any benefit that only damage is a fact !!! yes And some representatives of your nation even openly say such things as, for example, separating the territory from the Urals in half and don’t see anything wrong with that, such nasty impudence, they certainly don’t see anything bad because they don’t give a damn about this country! I hope a law that will prohibit such scumbags from saying so about the country will be adopted in the Duma, otherwise all scum has become infinitely impudent !!! am
  • kafa
    kafa 26 November 2013 14: 56
    0
    Lavrov low bow hi so stands for power good
  • Black
    Black 26 November 2013 15: 39
    +1
    Quote: kafa
    Lavrov low bow


    Fun girls dancing !!!!
    The staplers muddied with the Persians behind the scenes, rustle like mice, and Lavrov stands for the power ?? !!
    The agreement reached is not a victory of the Dove of Peace, I think the Claw of Sshatovsky defeated, which bogged down to the Middle East. And they rolled it under China ... and under us ... And Lavrov-laurels!
  • regdan
    regdan 26 November 2013 16: 33
    0
    After signing these historical documents in Geneva, each cheburek calls himself an expert and an analyst shouting that oil will fall in price, Russia’s Khan. But dear chebureks who called themselves experts and analysts answer my questions.
    "Why is the consumer basket growing in price?"
    "Show me an idiot in the world who will sell oil for cheap if the consumer basket grows in price from year to year"
    1. atalef
      atalef 26 November 2013 16: 53
      -1
      After signing these historic documents in Geneva

      There is nothing historical in them, in half a year we’ll see, and so, in general, an agreement of intent
  • saag
    saag 26 November 2013 17: 51
    0
    The same USA will not allow Iran to drop the price, because Iran was and is China the main buyer of oil, but it can buy an incredible amount at a low price, but how is the USA going to just look at it?
  • individual
    individual 26 November 2013 17: 52
    0
    Quote:
    "As for Israel, it is dissatisfied not only with what the West is pleased with, but also with the fact that the talks in Geneva were preceded by secret meetings of American diplomacy with representatives of Iran. So what happens?"

    Earlier, there would be the only conclusion that US President B. Obama runs into the death row of a pro-Israeli US lobby.
    Now the WORLD is changing and the previously unacceptable rapprochement between Israel and Saudi Arabia is becoming a fact.
    WORLD is changing - priorities are changing.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 26 November 2013 20: 05
    0
    Thanks Oleg! Interesting. And here :
    his rating took the form of a curve creeping down dejectedly.
    - why is it sad? Cheerfully so ... And does not creep already, but at least paces ...
  • Sergg
    Sergg 26 November 2013 20: 27
    0
    I wrote "historical documents", I read "satirical documents", did not understand, then I see I read it incorrectly, although it is interesting.

    My brother, a nuclear physicist, several years ago, when the hype around Iraq started, said that enriching uranium in order to obtain nuclear weapons required enormous energy costs, and these are completely different production capacities than getting a peaceful Atom. Hide it is almost impossible.

    Think about whether the leaders of the states knew that there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq - OF course. But everyone played a big political game. They knew and approved the US military aggression.
    What is happening now: it’s hard to say, but something is going wrong in the USA, or there is a tricky mnogohodovka here.

    In this situation, a joke similar to the situation comes to mind:
    Stirlitz photographs secret documents from Bormann's safe.
    Borman suddenly runs in, grabs one of the papers from the safe and quickly runs away.
    "Fuuu, it's carried over!" - thought Stirlitz.
    "You would be so carried away!" - thought Bormann.
    What to think about all this ...
  • andru_007
    andru_007 26 November 2013 21: 25
    +2
    Quote: faraon
    Iran became pro-American means there is no threat from it

    If Iran becomes pro-American, the need for Israel will disappear. You just merge guys ... Sorry ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 November 2013 22: 01
      0
      Quote: andru_007

      If Iran becomes pro-American, the need for Israel will disappear. You just merge guys ... Sorry ...

      what is the connection? Israel has been and will remain the main center of the projected force on the BW for the United States. As Reagan put it, "an unsinkable aircraft carrier."
  • Dmitry_T.
    Dmitry_T. 27 November 2013 00: 07
    +1
    The latest news: 60 combat aircraft from different countries are participating in the largest in the history of Israel, and all this disgrace is called: "Blue Flag" :)
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/85672/
  • andru_007
    andru_007 27 November 2013 03: 52
    +1
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    what is the connection? Israel has been and will remain the main center of the projected force on the BW for the United States. As Reagan said "unsinkable aircraft carrier"

    The United States and Iran have much more common interests than meets the eye. If they agree (and as I understand this the first step has been taken), then the center of the projection of force is likely to change, the "unsinkable aircraft carrier" will be in a different place. And Israel will simply be sacrificed, there will be no need for it ...
    1. Katsin1
      Katsin1 27 November 2013 14: 19
      -1
      Guys, we need to hold on to the remaining 3 years for Barak Huseynovich. American-Israeli communication will survive 8 years of this misunderstanding with the ears of Cheburashka ...
  • solovald
    solovald 28 November 2013 05: 13
    -1
    Israel cannot be envied, all the time they are in a state of permanent war with the Arabs. So they are spinning. Considering that there are only 8 million of them and the territory is a strip of land along the coast, we are forced to dominate at least by military potential. Hence their zealous reaction to all kinds of "peace" negotiations with Iran and other "Arabs".